/sfg/ - Spaceflight General

[Anonymous No.15663708]

DOOR edition

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[Anonymous No.15663719]

>>15663708
Screen door on a submarine comes to mind

[Anonymous No.15663724]

>>15663708
I've been away for a while, when the fuck is the next hop?

[Anonymous No.15663729]

>>15663724
No hop but work continues on the orbital launch mount

[Anonymous No.15663731]

>>15663708

[Anonymous No.15663732]

>>15663729
this fucking stage 0 meme, are they really gonna catch the booster?

[Anonymous No.15663738]

>>15663724
never ever

[Anonymous No.15663739]

>>15663724
14 days

[Anonymous No.15663740]

A reminder that because of geography Russia got fucked on launch site options.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIXiK41yl_w

[Anonymous No.15663741]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1691135486340063232

[Anonymous No.15663742]

>>15663724

[Anonymous No.15663743]

>>15663741

[Anonymous No.15663748]

>>15663741
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1691156487094308869

[Anonymous No.15663753]

>>15663748
Wait, he's going to dox Zuck on livestream?

[Anonymous No.15663754]

>>15663748
Elon could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody

[Anonymous No.15663755]

>>15663753
zucks house is in a unknown location?

[Anonymous No.15663759]

>>15663740
They'll rule space when the north geomagnetic pole shifts to Siberia

[Anonymous No.15663763]

>>15663755
Is it? I wouldn't know

[Anonymous No.15663766]

>>15663741
>>15663748
He's in a K-hole and he's not coming out of it

[Anonymous No.15663767]

>>15663755
We can meet elon if we go to zucks house right now. basically meeting god. go and report back

[Anonymous No.15663770]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqVLP3DKOk4

yo check out this video

[Anonymous No.15663772]

Good game

[Anonymous No.15663773]

>>15663770
It's not funny

[Anonymous No.15663775]

>>15663748
I sure hope this isn't a psiop

[Anonymous No.15663782]

Make sure to familiarize yourself. There will be a test

[Anonymous No.15663784]

>>15663782
>starship
>sls lover
no

[Anonymous No.15663785]

>>15663782
kek

[Anonymous No.15663788]

>>15663775
It means no launch anytime soon if he has time to clown around.

[Anonymous No.15663796]

>>15663782
Apollo: Orion’s famous dad
ATV: Orion’s young mom who retired as soon as she married

[Anonymous No.15663804]

>>15663782
>soyuz isn't an onee-san

[Anonymous No.15663814]

>>15663772
perfect game. One of the few cases where the DLC made the whole thing even better

[Anonymous No.15663822]

>>15663772
how is the dlc? didn't bother to buy it right away even though I enjoyed the base game, perhaps a bit overhyped and some of the puzzles felt a bit tedious
for instance, I enjoyed subnautica more

[Anonymous No.15663855]

>>15663822
the DLC is pretty great. Adds a Ringworld/O'Neill Cylinder, the only tedium is getting to it each time but you get fast at getting to where you need to go just like the base game.

[Anonymous No.15663866]

>>15663822
Narratively excellent and the early parts and the end are great
Problem:
>Exploration is done almost entirely on foot, IMO ship piloting is the best part of the gameplay so something is missing.
>There are tedious stealth sequences, and the cycle still continues during those (so you have to rush or restart everything ), they also end up more skill-based than the one stealth sequence of the base game, and less knowledge based.

So great but the gameplay doesn’t fit too much with the base game

[Anonymous No.15663871]

>>15663822
it has a good mystery. gave me rama vibes. i felt bad pirating it

[Anonymous No.15663880]

I think SpaceX is probably going to branch out into developing nuclear rockets following Starship and the 18m Starship variant since 9 month long mars rides aren't nice. Probably around the mid 2030s. Wonder if they're gonna go for simple solid core NTRs or something more exotic. Or maybe something more novel like laser thermal or beamed power electric drives. They do seem to be within the philosophy of putting the max amount of hardware into stage 0 (the laser platform). Hope they get clearance for it, don't want lockheed to waste years and suck billions on cost-plus money to do it.

[Anonymous No.15663887]

>>15663871
>rama
It helps I just finished reading this when it came out. Probably my favorite sci fi book because it resists the tempation of literally every other sci fi story. Just keeps it cool

[Anonymous No.15663890]

>>15663880
by that point QI drives will be mature technology

[Anonymous No.15663903]

>>15663880
Nuclear rockets wouldn't minimize cost/per tonne of cargo to the surface of Mars. In fact, it'd significantly increase it.

[Anonymous No.15663904]

>>15663880
gwynne lied, accept it

[Anonymous No.15663909]

https://strawpoll.com/BJnX8eXLLnv
one week before Luna 25 landing attempt
also vote on the poll please

[Anonymous No.15663913]

>>15663887
>it resists the tempation of literally every other sci fi story
What do you mean?
Have heard of the book but didn't read it btw

[Anonymous No.15663917]

>>15663864
There's already ports for methane transfer. Idk about oxygen but it wouldn't be that hard. The logistics for transporting fuel for starship at sea is much easier than the hundreds of trucks they currently use.

[Anonymous No.15663918]

>>15663903
>double the isp
>5 times less tanker launches
Yeah the nuclear part would be costly... at first, long term and in bulk it’s just better

[Anonymous No.15663933]

>>15663741
People like Mark never got the bullying they needed. Better late than never. Maybe Musk will stuff Sam Altman into a locker next. Retvrn to tradition, nature is healing etc.

[Anonymous No.15663937]

>>15663918
You do realize that "nuclear" is just advanced hydromeme right? with all the same problems and then some

[Anonymous No.15663944]

>>15663913
Like theres no unnecessary drama or contrived conflict and I dont want to spoil anything but it does a good job at not blowing it's load too early

[Anonymous No.15663947]

>>15663937
>methalox NTR is physically impossible

[Anonymous No.15663951]

>>15663917
Thanks for the reply, I was just about to repost. I didn’t realize we were near page 10.
That’s interesting. If it’s cheaper why don’t they already barge in methane to the nearest port and just truck it the short remaining distance to starbase or something

[Anonymous No.15663968]

>>15663937
You can put any fuel in a NTR
An optimised pure-Methane NTR can reach 600-700 isp

[Anonymous No.15663970]

>>15663909
I already voted for Luna 25 alone. If you asked me two weeks ago I would have confidently said neither, or just ISRO. But my gut tells me roscosmos will actually manage to stick a landing and India will have another failure from some new unforeseen reason
At this point I’m tired of keeping a blackpill mindset though. Even if both are severely simple compared to something like perseverance, >we should really be rooting for as many successes as possible. Failures set people back and the goal should be becoming proficient as a species and getting off this hell world
Or just reply to me and call me a retard if you think failures are funny and fine as long as the US/SeX succeed. I see this point as well

[Anonymous No.15663973]

>>15663903
>>15663918
>>15663937
Now that I think about it I really lean towards laser thermal designs. You build a big nuclear reactor (or solar array) in orbit, you get to slap on massive radiators and shielding since it isn't accelerating anywhere and then you use it to power a laser that heats up hydrogen propellant on a spacecraft far away. That would let normal corporations and even civilians operate spacecraft by renting out beam power. Avoids all of the problems of having to give civilians or shipping companies access to enriched uranium. And its probably cheaper than giving each ship its own uranium supply. Oh and I'm pretty sure you don't necessarily have to hydromeme and just use methane with a larger exhaust area since delta v from laser thermal is affected by mass flow instead of exhaust velocity.

[Anonymous No.15663976]

>>15663951
They probably just pick it up from a pipeline near by

[Anonymous No.15663985]

>>15663970
I want NASA to fail temporarily (SLS, shitty complimentary Artemis missions launched on shitty rockets, etc) but I want them to pivot to F9 and Starship more and more and start succeeding because I love the stars and stripes at the end of the day. I just hate the bullshit surrounding NASA right now
I want SX to succeed completely. They will.
I also want a competitor to SX who is just as good as them. That currently doesn’t exist. But the “muh options” meme is kind of true. Imagine if Bezos or Carmack or someone was concurrently building a Starship/Superheavy. It would keep SX from getting complacent over the long term. Reminder: oldspace WAS good at one point. But complacency is a poison

[Anonymous No.15663987]

>>15663976
Didn't realize that map was from 1967 kek. Probably way more pipelines

[Anonymous No.15663988]

>>15663968
should be possible to retrofit starship at some point then (or design a mostly new upper stage for the Starship stack but with methane NTR instead of raptors and oxygen), but currently nuclear faces substantial regulatory hurdles

[Anonymous No.15663990]

>>15663970
I think failures are funny if they involve Blue Origin, American oldspace, and aren't crewed or a probe/telescope.
I don't like the current Russian government but I can separate things enough so that I can be happy for the probe itself.
Chandrayaan 3 I'm cheering because I think they deserve to get this one right.

[Anonymous No.15663994]

>>15663985
Wait I’m an idiot I forgot VIPER was launching on falcon kek
My point of hating SLS still holds true

[Anonymous No.15663998]

>>15663985
>I also want a competitor to SX who is just as good as them
I really want for Rocket Lab to assume this role

[Anonymous No.15664003]

>>15663987
As a pipeline worker: lol, lmao

[Anonymous No.15664011]

>>15663998
It’s too late bro. I think Beck was right in saying 8T is a good sweet spot, and it will still procure lots of launches for a while even with Starship online. But he’s chasing constellations which is a retarded business model. And neutron needs to be way more modular.
Think of SX. They had Falcon 1 but had long term goals for bigger rockets with common parts and common engineering challenges. Building and launching F1 got them to F9 and Starship. But neutron is gay. Beck should have designed it as an interim booster stage with the ability to one day slap a bigger booster under it. Instead it’s just a carbon composite meme that can only do one thing

[Anonymous No.15664026]

Should spaceX build a port at starbase so LNG can be shipped in directly and starships can be shipped to florida directly?

[Anonymous No.15664037]

>>15664026
They’ll probably just set up a local FL production factory. Eager beaver ran the numbers and figured you could launch new Starships from Texas and dogleg them to FL but this is sort of unrealistic lol

[Anonymous No.15664079]

OH NONONONONONO

[Anonymous No.15664093]

[Anonymous No.15664097]

>>15664079
everyone will be accepted on mars.

[Anonymous No.15664102]

>>15663985
CADRE, CLPS
This is actually cool though. It’s designed to land next to a bunch of other small miscellaneous landers and rovers and prove different pieces of hardware can network together to pool information without human input

[Anonymous No.15664113]

>>15663772
the cutesy reddit cartoony style was the first major turn off. Then when the intro stated your main job is to find out what happened to the lost furries it was officially over. Ended up refunding it and buying signalis instead. Space waifus ended up being a good choice

[Anonymous No.15664126]

>>15664097
lol no, a fledgling mars colony won't have the luxury of having useless or detrimental people
they will be sent back
LGB portion of is probably fine, though not very good later when you want to start increasing the population
but having mentally ill people that need superfluous medication isn't just going to be feasible (or perhaps it will if mass is not a big problem, still a problem to have unstable trannies running around)

[Anonymous No.15664130]

>>15663775
Musk is a psyop

[Anonymous No.15664131]

>>15664113
I almost dropped it at the start too, but after getting over the art style its a pretty cool game

[Anonymous No.15664154]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1691191586024230917

[Anonymous No.15664158]

>>15664113
robbing yourself of a good time due to your terminal contrarianism
I do it to myself all the time

[Anonymous No.15664160]

>>15664158
Define “good time.” It’s better to avoid gay shit

[Anonymous No.15664161]

>>15664154
this is too stupid for me
I'm sure if I was 18 again, I'd find it funny

[Anonymous No.15664162]

>>15663866
Outer Wilds DLC was amazing but footslogging was the worst part of the gameplay and the DLC was 100% footslogging. They went out of their way to make the spin gravity on their gainstation high enough to prevent you from flying around with your jetpack which felt really bad

[Anonymous No.15664164]

>>15663766
Your meme is still not happening tranny seether

[Anonymous No.15664166]

https://spacenews.com/earth-observation-evolution-bigger-satellites-promise-bigger-payoff-for-imagery-operators/

> “Everyone’s moving to these bigger satellites because the cost and volume constraints have changed,” said James Mason, Planet senior vice president of space systems. “All of our customers are demanding different types of data, higher quality and lower latency.”

> “Mass is not as important anymore,” said Christian Lenz, chief technology officer for San Francisco-based Capella. “Things like capacity, performance, [and] lifetime are all more important at this stage.”

> To reduce latency, Capella is mounting Mynaric optical communications terminals on Acadia satellites. The terminals, which are compatible with the interoperability standard established by the Pentagon’s Space Development Agency, “provide the promise of having latencies of under 15 minutes sometime in the future,” Lenz said.

[Anonymous No.15664167]

>>15664160
solving puzzles and exploring

[Anonymous No.15664176]

>>15664161
It is hilarious mister all grown up.

[Anonymous No.15664179]

>>15664166
Planet
> The larger bus “removes those hard constraints of trying to pack everything in this tiny box,” Mason said. “It allows us to build more reliable, modular systems because we’ve got a bit more space to work with. We’ve taken the best of what we’ve learned from the SkySats and SuperDoves, and we put that into a new satellite design that is more flexible, more agile, lower cost and higher performance.”

Satellogic
> “The real leap is going to be our NewSat in 18 to 24 months, which will be in a larger bus with a much higher resolution,” Tirman said.

Spire Global
> “Generally, our satellites are getting a little bit bigger,” said Joel Spark, Spire co-founder and chief satellite architect.

The time of mass autism is ending

[Anonymous No.15664182]

>>15664176
die

[Anonymous No.15664184]

>>15664166
>provide the promise of having latencies of under 15 minutes sometime in the future
I don't understand this part. 15 minutes to a ground station? Can't this already be achieved in under a second in a geostationary orbit? What am I missing?

[Anonymous No.15664185]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKMd7U3nwdw

[Anonymous No.15664187]

>>15664160
This>>15664167
One of the few games where exploring for the sake of it pushes you organically through the narrative

[Anonymous No.15664188]

>>15664176
I just don't have it in me anymore
sorry

[Anonymous No.15664191]

>>15663990
It’s just that I know that if Luna 25 fails Russia won’t be able to launch any other lander for the foreseeable future
Indian probes are made extremely quickly, while programs from start to finish have already been done in no more than a few year, and they’re in Artemis, if it fails It won’t be a huge deal for India, they’ll get it right by 2026

[Anonymous No.15664194]

>>15664184
Idk either but I assume these are ultra high quality images that take a while to downlink, download, and process. They’re presumably just saying they want to shorten the time of all of this with better hardware now that mass autisming is exiting the equation

[Anonymous No.15664197]

>>15664184
if its a LEO satellite, it might not be over a groundstation for some time and if its some independent small constellation it probably doesn't make sense to design something more complicated for the communication (and building more groundstations would be expensive too)

[Anonymous No.15664198]

>>15663968
>>15663988
how tf do you aerobrake and land this Starship NTR monstrosity on the surface of Mars?

[Anonymous No.15664200]

https://spacenews.com/china-launches-first-geosynchronous-orbit-radar-satellite/

[Anonymous No.15664202]

>>15664079
musk finally got tired of wamen

[Anonymous No.15664210]

>>15664162
The station was not really that great desu
The Timed event in the base games are great because even if you miss it, you can always go explore another place,
The dlc is meant to be played near the end, if you come too late or haven’t explored enough by the timed event you may as well just restart the loop

The river travel in the current is also tedious, there is also a lot of empty/innacessible space

I would have liked if you could change the rotation rate and gravity of the station, thus enabling access to new regions

Also I’ve always been bothered by the lack of secret ending if you could bring the entire village to the station, And so saving them

[Anonymous No.15664212]

https://spacenews.com/rocket-lab-sees-virgin-orbit-facility-as-scaling-enabler-for-neutron/

> The revised legs, Beck said in the call, are optimized for landings on barges at sea. The company also switched from a “Hungry Hippo” payload fairing that opened in four segments to a more conventional two-segment clamshell that he said simplified its design.

> “These design changes were actually made some months ago as part of our iterative testing analysis program and some direct customer feedback, but the artwork really just hadn’t kept up with pace with the real vehicle,” Beck said.

> When Rocket Lab announced Neutron, the company said the vehicle would make its first flight in 2024. Beck hedged a bit about those plans in the call. “We’re still working towards getting something on the pad by 2024,” he said, but stopped short of saying when the first launch would take place.

[Anonymous No.15664213]

>>15664194
>>15664197
Both of these make sense. I suppose increase bandwidth makes sense in all cases, but what I quoted specifically referred to latency, which is throwing me off. Maybe they're referring to the latency of ground stations actually receiving an entire very large message rather than a ping.

[Anonymous No.15664215]

>>15664198
Not those anons but if SX ever could into nuclear engines they would probably build a ferry of some sort that carries other chemical starships along with it.
Granted I don’t see them ever doing this. Nuclear shit is going to be terminally gatekept by the government

[Anonymous No.15664219]

Free Mars

[Anonymous No.15664221]

>>15664215
Imagine trying to asses spaceships for nuclear proliferation concerns. Lol.

[Anonymous No.15664222]

>>15664212
I for one want to see another barge landing testing program with lots of failures.
It was fun watching the early F9 landing days

[Anonymous No.15664223]

>>15663740
>Muh inclination
Just rent some land in Kenya

[Anonymous No.15664224]

>>15664176
yeah

[Anonymous No.15664226]

>>15664212
Those legs are smaller than F9. I expect they'll see a few leg failure as even F9 had some.

[Anonymous No.15664231]

>>15664223
You would unironically have an easier time setting up a cosmodrome in the middle of ukraine or afghanistan than any near-equatorial african country

[Anonymous No.15664230]

>>15663763
Then who cares?

[Anonymous No.15664234]

>>15664231
It would have to be a military base with all of the personal imported.

[Anonymous No.15664235]

>>15664213
I read it as latency between requesting an image of a region and getting the image
with cameras on starlinks you could have real time imagining of everything on earth (both satellites over everything + instant communication)

[Anonymous No.15664246]

>>15664231
Then Venezuela. The only hard part is putting a big rocket on and off a ship and not ruining it.

[Anonymous No.15664248]

>>15664235
Does anyone know if SpaceX is interested in opening a satellite-to-satellite communications bus that's open to third parties?

[Anonymous No.15664250]

>Suspected volcano 'glowing' on moon - as scientists baffled after heat blob discovery
>Scientists have been left baffled after discovering a giant heat blob on the dark side of the moon spanning 31 miles. It's believed to come from a large deposit of granite buried underneath the surface of the moon formed by a volcano. It has a temperature of 10C and has profound consequences for lunar research. This is considered to be very hot for the moon where the mercury can plummet to bone-chilling lows of -183C at night.
>Dr Matt Siegler, co-lead researcher at the Planetary Science Institute, explained: “What we found was that one of these suspected volcanoes, known as Compton-Belkovich, was absolutely glowing at microwave wavelengths."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/suspected-volcano-glowing-on-moon-as-scientists-baffled-after-heat-blob-discovery

[Anonymous No.15664254]

>>15664250
>Moon is still geologically active despite "astronomers" lying to us for decades
I'm not surprised.

[Anonymous No.15664257]

>>15664231
I started reading Fountains of Paradise by Arthur C Clarke (didnt get far because his Indian wankery g) but I like the idea that the bigger challenge would be geopolitical rather than physical

[Anonymous No.15664261]

>>15664257
for a space elevator

[Anonymous No.15664264]

>>15664261
Tldr on why it's not politically feesible?

[Anonymous No.15664266]

>>15664154
>Mark takes this sport seriously
Mark's an overcompensating little rat kike faggot that's trying to convince himself he's tough after probably being relentlessly bullied in high school/college for being a manlet jew

[Anonymous No.15664267]

>>15664254
Nah, plenty of researchers didn't believe the Moon is totally dead. The TLPs indicated that there was still some activity

[Anonymous No.15664268]

>>15664154

[Anonymous No.15664269]

>>15664113
>cutesy, cartoony
reminds me of all those bad wind waker hot takes. it's funny, i actually have a visceral reaction of disgust when i see games with hyper realistic visuals. mostly because 99% of them are complete slop. generally speaking, studios that focus everything on muh grafx tend to neglect making a game that's actually fun

[Anonymous No.15664280]

>>15664212
falconization is real

[Anonymous No.15664281]

>>15664264
iirc in the book the best location for the construction was some fictional version of sri lanka on a holy site on a mountain, and groups from all of the world contesting and supporting the construction

in real life itd probably get more complicated, in addition to protecting it from terrorists and such

[Anonymous No.15664285]

>>15664184
autocorrected "milliseconds" maybe

[Anonymous No.15664290]

Guys. IT'S LITERALLY JOEVER FOR ROSCOSMOS.

They stopped blessing rockets since Rogozin left. No more divine buff. I think Luna-25 has no chances

[Anonymous No.15664292]

Too lazy to find a good paper or article to share; but look up ‘Atomic Planar Power for Lightweight Exploration (APPLE)’
Seems like a cool new RTG redesign from oak ridge

[Anonymous No.15664296]

>>15664290
They still do it for crews, surely?
If this was purely a Rogozin thing then holy shit I kneel and apologize because this was kino and full of SOVL

[Anonymous No.15664297]

>>15664264
There was that Ace Combat game that featured one.

[Anonymous No.15664302]

>>15664281
There’s some new-ish chink movie featuring a global space elevator that gets attacked by terrorists and it’s actually kino

[Anonymous No.15664306]

>>15664113
Signalis was fucking kino. You still enjoyed it even though it was developed by trannies and the whole story is an allegory for LGBT oppression? The whole plot revolved around lesbian androids.

[Anonymous No.15664312]

Is there any reason to NOT have all Artemis moonwalkers just be geologists? why have anyone else?

[Anonymous No.15664315]

>>15664257
Foundation peaks with the Mule.
But still worth reading the series.
Sci-fi has always been about the human condition.

[Anonymous No.15664321]

>>15664250
wow that's pretty cool and surprising that it hasn't been seen before

[Anonymous No.15664323]

>>15664312
Anyone that's qualified to be an astronaut can be trained in geology.

[Anonymous No.15664329]

>>15664312
Geology fag here. NASA has a terminal problem of only assigning GI-Joe über resume holders to astronaut slots, and lots of geologists are chronically depressed alcoholics, stoners, or just don’t flat out care about things that aren’t on earth. Specializes geologists who like space typically do more remote sensing stuff and are coding lab rats more than field explorers.
And it’s not like Artemis astronauts are running the data themselves.
Even if you only selected geologists you’d still have to train them specifically for lunar excursion science. It’s easier to just vet astronauts from a wider range of fields and just quickly train them up on what to look for.

[Anonymous No.15664333]

>>15664312
Have you ever met a geologist? They're strange and unnerving. Artemis is propaganda mostly meant for foreign people to see America hasn't lost its edge, so you want stoic military vets with stable marriages who don't want the attention, but can handle it gracefully when they receive it.

[Anonymous No.15664338]

>>15663738
god damn I fucking hate falcon heavy.
brutal sunk cost fallacy in action

[Anonymous No.15664351]

>>15664306
>>15664264
Space elevator is a tower of babel. We commonly see US/UK make cooperative overtures that get treated Machiavellian by the rest of the world and then sabotaged by fifth column. Look no further than nuclear power and greens. Specifically Germany that decommissioned their power despite losing natural gas from Russia. They had the keys, but green ideology and a government full of people who financially benefited from Russian natural gas lobbying. The people who make decisions aren't suffering from the power crisis in Germany

[Anonymous No.15664356]

>>15664302
Happens in Ace Combat 7 too

[Anonymous No.15664357]

>>15664329
>It’s easier to just vet astronauts from a wider range of fields and just quickly train them up on what to look for.
With modern communication tech I guess you can have a geologist on Earth watching everything through a high def camera mounted on the helmet to tell them to take a closer look at whatever

[Anonymous No.15664367]

>>15664312
You need at least one pilot who can navigate orbits by sextant and stopwatch. And you want an engineer/mechanic that can jury-rig. They could be the same person, but you need both skills in case of Apollo 13.

The ship is otherwise on autopilot.

[Anonymous No.15664368]

>>15663880
god damn I hope russia pushes hard on their TEM tug, we're too soi to put nuclear into space. Rosatom is the leading nuclear energy provider in the world, and they're totally vertically integrated. I would fucking coom if a nuclear frigate ran laps around nuclear-free greenpeace cuckships.

[Anonymous No.15664369]

>>15664338
actually FH has been a massive success, hoovering up tons of defense and NASA contracts, completely dunking on SLS, stealing its payloads (Clipper, gateway, etc.)

[Anonymous No.15664375]

>>15664367
astros don't do that stuff any more. you just follow instructions from the ground. There are no situations where you need to use a sextant but at the same time the craft is disabled not enough to prevent you from manually firing.
it's 2023.

[Anonymous No.15664378]

>>15664357
>>15664329
>>15664333
Proper emplacement of sensors an good sample collection is the tasks. The data can be analyzed by real geologists.

[Anonymous No.15664383]

>>15664375
>astros don't do that stuff any more. you just follow instructions from the ground. There are no situations where you need to use a sextant but at the same time the craft is disabled not enough to prevent you from manually firing.
you're entirely wrong. nasa trains them to do all that to this day.

[Anonymous No.15664386]

>>15664383
not on dragon

[Anonymous No.15664387]

>>15663937
>>15663947
An NTP rocket can be propellant agnostic. If the infrastructure was there you could fly back and forth from the Moon to Mars on IRSU hydrogen and methane.

[Anonymous No.15664391]

>>15664329
>stoners
hehe

[Anonymous No.15664396]

>>15664386
LEO missions don't.
You can be assured they will carry a sextant for Artemis.

[Anonymous No.15664399]

>>15664396
I doubt it

[Anonymous No.15664400]

sad to see /sfg/ fall for the nuclear rocket meme. if you want nuclear blue urine and locksneed got you covered

[Anonymous No.15664401]

>>15664357
Yeah exactly. It’s kind of sad really. As I got further and further into my bachelor studies I realized a lot of the academic geologists just don’t care about space. Which I find fucking crazy because planets like Venus and Mars are such fascinating case studies in planetary evolution. And the ones who do care are weirdo programmers who only care about the technicalities and not necessarily the “soul” of the field (this one’s hard to explain. In other words, they just care about writing new papers on how to find random peaks on raman spectrographs and stuff, they don’t necessarily care about the big picture of how venus ended up so hellish or why mars doesn’t have a magnetic field and stuff). And then there’s geophysicists who similarly only care about the math side, not necessarily the big picture
I was offered a full-ride for a remote sensing phd with SETI as my main contributor but turned it down because I was sick of school, I saw how nasty and political academia was, and I’m an alcoholic lol. I don’t really regret turning it down but I fucking love space and I was turned off by how nobody really cared about the actual geology aspect of it. Ugh I wish I could have just been an apprentice for eugene shoemaker in the apollo era

[Anonymous No.15664403]

>>15664387
>An NTP rocket can be propellant agnostic
Sexy, but idk how difficult one would be to make a reality

[Anonymous No.15664406]

>>15664399
This article by Alexander Gerst says they will.
https://blogs.esa.int/alexander-gerst/de/2018/08/17/deutsch-dragon-sextanten-and-redundanzen/

[Anonymous No.15664409]

EDA has whipped his cosmic perspective slaves. How dare they release footage on their own channel. only to the king should the spoils go
https://youtu.be/jKMd7U3nwdw

[Anonymous No.15664410]

/sextant fans general/

[Anonymous No.15664412]

>>15664400
Based and correct

[Anonymous No.15664415]

>>15664369
I guess the idea is that it delayed starship cargo, which would brutally mog FH and SLS to mars and back

[Anonymous No.15664416]

>>15664409
this is happening entirely in your head

[Anonymous No.15664418]

>>15664368
>we're too soi to put nuclear into space

Hello friend may I interest you in talking about our lord and savior DRACO?

[Anonymous No.15664422]

NTP sucks ass. kill yourselves

[Anonymous No.15664423]

>>15664415
Starship is delayed by nothing but the government and ESG fags. FH has nothing to do with how fast the SS program moves

[Anonymous No.15664430]

>>15664423
And Jeff Bezos

[Anonymous No.15664436]

>>15664423
>FH has nothing to do with how fast the SS program moves
Not true. SpaceX has exactly one avionics team. They have exactly one flight software and one engine team.

[Anonymous No.15664439]

>>15664401
>eugene shoemaker
Are there really no dudes like him left in the field? What about those nutcase volcanologists who go to active craters in thermal suits?

[Anonymous No.15664440]

>>15664416
well well well if it isnt King Todd himself doing the floss before all to see. you are a disgraceful man, nay boy. scurry back to your discord like the weasel you are

[Anonymous No.15664443]

>>15664418
>>15664422
Lockheed has a lock on our space future. SpaceX? not so much...

[Anonymous No.15664450]

>>15664418
oh fugggg NTP is back bros???

[Anonymous No.15664456]

>>15664439
Yeah the ones who go visit volcanoes are similar to him. Anyone doing batshit crazy field work for the USGS really loves the rock science and dreams of the bigger picture. Hell, Schmitt got his foot in the door by working for the newly established USGS astrogeology center in Flagstaff. He then helped train the apollo astronauts and was eventually brought on as a geologist

[Anonymous No.15664458]

>>15664439
Sure there are, one was even the chair of VEXAG for a while and so angry about Venus getting overlooked due to Mars he did an interview with Berger

[Anonymous No.15664460]

>>15664401
>weirdo programmers who only care about the technicalities
hey fuck you

[Anonymous No.15664464]

>>15664439
Kino to the max

[Anonymous No.15664469]

>>15664458
>VEXAG
https://twitter.com/unveilvenus/status/1682437243842215937
:(

[Anonymous No.15664471]

>>15664423
Look upon the noble delusionalus muskratus who has burrowed to the surface

[Anonymous No.15664481]

>>15664471
I’m like a 3 or 2 at most and I’m not budging on this. Your brain is rotted by the fact that oldspace can only handle one megaproject at a time. SpaceX is far from stretched thin

[Anonymous No.15664487]

> Japanese Venus orbiter page has its own origami design to download
https://akatsuki.isas.jaxa.jp/en/gallery/papercraft/
Incredibly based

[Anonymous No.15664491]

>>15664481
SpaceX only has one megaproject thoughever

[Anonymous No.15664495]

>>15664481
SpaceX has mission creep just like everyone else. Whiy else would it take 5 years to develop a singled extended fairing, or 5 years to develop DragonXL? Lol now we're building EVA suits which has delayed Polaris. Humans wont ride on HLS until the 2030 at best, and it's 100% SpaceX's own fault. In 25 years they will be Boeing 2.0

[Anonymous No.15664497]

>>15664491
Imagine asking boeing to build falcon heavy AND starship within a decade or two, they would kill themselves unless they got two fat cost-plus contracts with an expected final delivery date of 2060 for only one of the two rockets

[Anonymous No.15664502]

>>15664495
>Humans wont ride on HLS until the 2030 at best
You're retarded. An will be proven wrong.
Human rating for low dynamic stress environment is way different from launch.

[Anonymous No.15664503]

>>15664497
Boeing is busy focusing on what matters. SpaceX is a dream in the clouds

[Anonymous No.15664507]

>>15664502
Winners prove me right, losers prove me wrong

[Anonymous No.15664511]

>Pouch, Storage, for Roll-on Urine Cuffs, Collins, Apollo 11
>This small bag with Velcro closure contains six latex cuffs stowed for use on the Apollo 11 mission in July 1969. The pouch was assigned to command module pilot Michael Collins, but they were never used. The cuffs were part of the urine collection systems used both on the Apollo spacecraft and while astronauts wore their spacesuits for lunar exploration. In each instance, the cuffs provided a sanitary link between the astronaut and the urine collection devices.
https://www.si.edu/object/pouch-storage-roll-urine-cuffs-collins-apollo-11:nasm_A19700102002

[Anonymous No.15664512]

>>15664507
You're retarded

[Anonymous No.15664513]

>>15664351
>fifth column
whats this?

[Anonymous No.15664515]

>>15664503
Boeing hasn't even carried astronauts. They're not doing shit thunderfag.

[Anonymous No.15664521]

>>15664315
I think youre thinking of another book

[Anonymous No.15664522]

>>15664511
Rolling down a condom in front of the bros so you can take a leak

[Anonymous No.15664523]

>>15664513
It refers to a subversive element within an organizational structure. Google the term.

[Anonymous No.15664531]

>>15664515
A certain Space Shuttle Orbiter begs to differ, shitrat. 852 fully loaded astronauts. How's ol SpaceX doin?

[Anonymous No.15664533]

>>15664523
thanks I learned something

[Anonymous No.15664538]

>This Mobile Quarantine Facility (MQF) was one of four built by NASA for astronauts returning from the Moon. Its purpose was to prevent the unlikely spread of lunar contagions by isolating the astronauts from contact with other people. A converted Airstream trailer, the MQF contained living and sleeping quarters, a kitchen, and a bathroom.
https://www.si.edu/object/mobile-quarantine-facility:nasm_A19740677000
kino & cosy

[Anonymous No.15664543]

>>15664538
every contractor got a piece

[Anonymous No.15664548]

>>15664531
>2/5 vehicles failed catastrophically
>last flight 12 years ago
>How's ol SpaceX doin?
they're doing way better actually

[Anonymous No.15664549]

>>15664538
Looks like futura font to me

[Anonymous No.15664552]

>>15664548
Yeah, can killed astronauts if you never fly em! Big brain SpaceX!

[Anonymous No.15664553]

>>15664401
watched Good Night Oppy yesterday (really good IMO) and this guy, Steven Squyers, was a field geologist in the 80s who ended up helming the spirit and opportunity missions, idk just thought it was cool for a geologist. Im not one, Im stuck in the legal field kek but it's a fascinating science

[Anonymous No.15664555]

>>15664552
>Yeah, can killed astronauts if you never fly em! Big brain SpaceX!
Delusional

[Anonymous No.15664562]

>>15664306
there was no whiff of trannism in the game despite the rumors of the tranny dev. The lesbians were alright (since they both looked good) and organic part of the plot. So not forced and not even in your face as is usual. Like one kiss on screen from top down persective, that is it. All in all the android waifu themes geled really well with the silent hill animu format, was suprised how stylish the entire package was

This lgbtstd oppression crap is some bunkertranny fanfic. What I got from its world building was obvious parallels to the DDR (even the flag was almost identical) and commie regime lunacy running through the propaganda posters, media and left over documentation from the secret police torture interrogations.

[Anonymous No.15664563]

>>15664531
>Boeing
>a program they just bought off of North American Rockwell in 1996

[Anonymous No.15664564]

>lift heavy rock
>become strong
>fight with moon

[Anonymous No.15664569]

>>15664564
the end goal is to kill

[Anonymous No.15664570]

>>15664564
>moon throws rocks back at you
nothing personnel

[Anonymous No.15664574]

>>15664521
The Mule is a character in the Foundation series. I don't know which book

[Anonymous No.15664576]

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1691180779160641536?t=U_PcI7YgmOcvMOz__4wv4w&s=19

Nov 15. Intuitive machine, target launch date. They say the lander is ready. However if weather delays, then DoD launch takes priority and might push them to Dec.

[Anonymous No.15664581]

>>15664329
>and lots of geologists are chronically depressed alcoholics, stoners, or just don’t flat out care about things that aren’t on earth

by the gods. are you saying prometheus was accurate all along?!?

[Anonymous No.15664585]

>>15664553
This is so ironic. The guy I was going to get my phd under got his degree under Squyers at cornel lmfao. My last two years at university were under covid so everything was done via zoom and I got a chance to talk with him, Zurbuchen, and big jim (the last one was very brief I basically just introduced myself but Jim’s internet was shitty because he was at home lol)

[Anonymous No.15664594]

>>15664306

[Anonymous No.15664596]

>>15664574
come on man - Foundation and Empire.
2nd book chronologically

[Anonymous No.15664604]

>>15664596
meant 2nd book published (4th chronologically)

[Anonymous No.15664606]

So unless I’m a regard giving in to misinformation it looks like intuitive machines plans on launching their lunar lander with falcon. But it runs on methane. Meaning the strongback will need to be upgraded to handle another fuel for this launch I guess

[Anonymous No.15664607]

>>15664585
Thats neat, the Squyres guy just seems like a real dude

[Anonymous No.15664612]

>>15664606
It's probably gaseous methane in a COPV

[Anonymous No.15664613]

>>15664596
I hate those 2nd Foundation mind control creeps so much. 30,000 years of barbarism is better than those faggots molesting peoples brains

[Anonymous No.15664617]

>>15664594
i love them so much. they deserve to be happy

[Anonymous No.15664621]

>>15664613
based terminus nationalist

[Anonymous No.15664632]

Has anyone survived death by rocket plume

[Anonymous No.15664635]

>>15664632
I don't think anybody has ever been killed by a rockets engine's plume.

[Anonymous No.15664638]

>>15664632
I imagine someone stood close to a water rocket launch and escaped with a good soaking

[Anonymous No.15664643]

>>15664638
i wonder what it would be like to watch sea dragon launch underwater. would it be hot?

[Anonymous No.15664647]

>>15664643
sound waves would liquify your ass if you're within a half mile

[Anonymous No.15664648]

>>15664647
that's just speculation

[Anonymous No.15664649]

>>15664648
This. When has somebody been killed by sound waves? How do they figure the soft tissue would be affected when it can move around?

[Anonymous No.15664654]

>>15664648
it would put out enormous acoustic energy and water transmits that much better than air

[Anonymous No.15664659]

>>15664654
i'll believe it when i see it frankly

[Anonymous No.15664662]

picture, nay, imagine, the Boeing(tm) Mars Colony

[Anonymous No.15664670]

>>15663741
>>15664154
elongated muskrat stop being cringe/creepy for 5 fucking minutes challenge

[Anonymous No.15664675]

>>15664662
flags, footprints, astronaut death

[Anonymous No.15664678]

>>15664649
I'm sure divers have been killed by overpressure events involving an explosion before.

[Anonymous No.15664682]

>>15664659
If the Chinese build one there's going to be sightseers too close to it just like they do with their hypergolics so we might settle this question once and for all

[Anonymous No.15664687]

>>15664649
I’ve heard if you’re swimming anywhere near a submarine pumping out sonar, your brain will essentially be liquified

[Anonymous No.15664694]

>>15664687
yet another made up bullshit lie. people even say sperm whale clicks will kill you. well divers swim around those all the time, never happened ever. most they report is it was rather annoying

[Anonymous No.15664697]

>>15664694
thats because the sperm whales are holding back

[Anonymous No.15664701]

>>15664697
never in recorded history has a human been harmed by sonar nor whale calls. it's bullshit. you cant name one case

[Anonymous No.15664706]

>>15664701
yeah, cause theyre holding back
also lighten up retard

[Anonymous No.15664711]

>>15664706
>whales make sounds so loud it can kill a man
>they dont do it around people of course
>err they just dont ok?!

[Anonymous No.15664713]

>>15664711
yeah, whales are pretty friendly. why are you getting your panties in a bunch about this?

[Anonymous No.15664716]

>>15664711
jfc I occasionally forget real autists post here

[Anonymous No.15664719]

>Launch will take place from LC-39A aboard a SpaceX Falcon 9. Because the lander uses liquid methane as its fuel, it needs to be fueled as late as possible. In order to do this, SpaceX will modify the strongback to be able to fuel the lander while its inside the payload fairing.

yoooo

[Anonymous No.15664720]

>>15664713
you're dead wrong about whales

[Anonymous No.15664721]

>>15664719
what is this in reference to?

[Anonymous No.15664725]

>>15664721
IM-1

[Anonymous No.15664726]

>>15664632
>Has anyone survived death
no

[Anonymous No.15664728]

>>15664719
anon btfo

[Anonymous No.15664739]

>>15664719
how much work is this? sounds like less than a week

[Anonymous No.15664742]

>>15664739
2 weeks exactly

[Anonymous No.15664744]

>>15664694
Bro I want to swim with orcas so bad
>b-but they are dangerous!
No, they are beautiful and based and have never killed man in the wild in all of recorded history. These are lies perpetuated by weak men who hold them against their will in tiny little zoo cages, of course they’re gonna be pissed there

[Anonymous No.15664748]

>>15664719
AYOOOO I WAS RIGHT

[Anonymous No.15664749]

NASA developing larger cubesat payload adapter for SLS

[Anonymous No.15664761]

>>15664726
>he doesn't know

[Anonymous No.15664763]

mark whittington is a full retard

[Anonymous No.15664765]

We went.

[Anonymous No.15664768]

>>15664744
>No, they are beautiful and based and have never killed man in the wild in all of recorded history. These are lies perpetuated by weak men who hold them against their will in tiny little zoo cages, of course they’re gonna be pissed there

[Anonymous No.15664769]

>>15663782
>archnemesis
>amusing rivalry
my sides are in orbit

[Anonymous No.15664775]

these payloads suck

[Anonymous No.15664777]

>>15664768
kek

[Anonymous No.15664778]

>>15664775
you get what you get and you DONT throw a fit, anon

[Anonymous No.15664785]

>>15664768
heh

[Anonymous No.15664786]

I want to fuck a dolphin so bad. That one video just isn't enough.

[Anonymous No.15664787]

[Anonymous No.15664789]

/sfg/ - sea faring general, every time

[Anonymous No.15664790]

>>15664787
We've been over this. Solar absolutely mogs nuclear

[Anonymous No.15664796]

>>15664790
Unless its night time, or cloudy, or dusty, or in polar regions

[Anonymous No.15664797]

>>15664796
that's ok, we can just burn the methane reserves we built up with excess generation.

[Anonymous No.15664802]

>>15664790
stfu faggot

[Anonymous No.15664804]

>>15664796
There is oil on Mars

[Anonymous No.15664816]

>>15664802
Abolish the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, then we'll talk

[Anonymous No.15664821]

>>15664744
black flippers typed this post

[Anonymous No.15664824]

>>15664682

[Anonymous No.15664834]

>>15663880
they wont even think about it until there's rockets going to mars every week

[Anonymous No.15664847]

no launches today eh

[Anonymous No.15664848]

>>15663148
Their website claims the new factory can build 45 Terrans a year, which would be neat to see, though of course both these numbers are optimistic. If Relativity makes it and doesn't get crushed by Starship, they'd probably start with one launch in year one and then launch no more than double in each successive year and eventually plateau at ~24.

[Anonymous No.15664854]

>>15664847
next week should be pretty good
>chandrayaan 3
>luna 25
>crew 7
>we love the nightlife
>possible starship activity

[Anonymous No.15664855]

amateur hobbyist 3D renderists single-handedly staving off my chronic Starship progress starvation

[Anonymous No.15664863]

>>15663766
is this how elon gets mad pussy

[Anonymous No.15664872]

>>15664855
atmospheric occlusion is kinda based

[Anonymous No.15664882]

>>15664787
>no elysium industries
Wtf they seem to have the best design why the fuck are they doing anything?

[Anonymous No.15664907]

>>15664719
methalox third stage for Falcon

[Anonymous No.15664911]

>>15664315
>Sci-fi has always been about the human condition
go fuck yourself

[Anonymous No.15664919]

>>15664357
with future technology we will just send robots and the scientists will control everything from Earth + AI decisions

[Anonymous No.15664923]

someone post some anime rocket girls

[Anonymous No.15664931]

>mfw I hear my coworkers saying that we should just take the space shuttle to the moon

[Anonymous No.15664941]

>>15664923

[Anonymous No.15664946]

>>15664126
>LGB
>not mentally ill
ngmi anon

[Anonymous No.15664952]

>>15664931
and if you try to explain to them why that wouldn't work you get the Normie Stare

[Anonymous No.15664954]

>>15664931
Don't feel defeated. It's a chance to educate a friend

[Anonymous No.15664956]

>>15664931
>>15664952
The burden of being too on the spectrum for your own good

[Anonymous No.15664957]

>>15664097
We need people who are 1) industrious 2) fertile 3) mentally sound. In other words, communist, castrated and the gender confused are not fit.

None of the LGBT+ are of that. If you're not of the three above, then you're a dead weight to a prosperous Mars colony.

[Anonymous No.15664960]

>>15664957
what makes a man “industrious”?

[Anonymous No.15664963]

>>15664931
>>15664952
Did you try telling the them that shuttle was built for station building and satellite repair and capture in low earth orbit. And as such did not have the necessary fuel to reach the moon. You could then have followed up with an explanation that a moon mission could have been assembled in orbit with shuttle, but wouldn’t have been because NASAs budget was slashed post apollo and development of the ISS hogged what was left.
I think they would have understood if you framed it that way.

[Anonymous No.15664973]

>>15664923
Anything in particular?

[Anonymous No.15664992]

>>15664963
>>15664954
>>15664956
>>15664952
It's kinda hard to do that when they have little interest in space exploration besides sci-fi movies. I tried to explain why Artemis has taken forever and why we can't just build another Saturn V. They seem to have this weird stance of half-believing the moon landing conspiracy, but not fully committing to it. When I try to defend the moon landings, they then proceed to act like they don't care and that it doesn't matter if it was faked or not. Idk what to do.

[Anonymous No.15664997]

>>15664992
Just make shit up. Tell them you heard a shuttle once found a wormhole at jupiter in 1988 and the astronauts were transported to europa and NASA still doesn’t know how it happened

[Anonymous No.15665007]

>>15664997
"Woah that's crazy man, anyways did you catch the game last night?"

[Anonymous No.15665011]

>>15665007
It's funny how I hear people sometimes say that someone killed by police could've been a future rocket scientist. It shows that society is "aware" of how important space travel is but they then proceeded to do nothing to help advance it.

[Anonymous No.15665016]

>>15665011
Performative outrage talk, very little sincerity behind it, even if they're emotional

[Anonymous No.15665017]

I have to get off this planet.
I need to get away from Earth.
It is necessary for me to go elsewhere.
It is absolutely imperative that I escape this rock, and more specifically, the people who occupy it.

[Anonymous No.15665020]

>>15664997
They found life on Europa too according to this documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBCuja26vec

[Anonymous No.15665022]

>>15665017
Try Venus

[Anonymous No.15665023]

>>15665011
>they wuz just getting ready to apply to a aerospace masters program when they smoked that crack and got into a shootout with them cops

[Anonymous No.15665024]

>>15665022
Can you prove Venus is inhospitable?

[Anonymous No.15665025]

>>15664923

[Anonymous No.15665028]

>>15665022
A waste of fuel and time. I'm going to fuck the Moon.

[Anonymous No.15665039]

>>15664960
hard-working and adaptive

[Anonymous No.15665043]

>>15665025
spessex

[Anonymous No.15665050]

>>15664855
honestly if you told me this is a real pic I'd believe it

[Anonymous No.15665057]

>>15665050
It will be soon enough

[Anonymous No.15665077]

since you were talking about space games earlier
what do you guys think about minecraft space mods/datapacks?

[Anonymous No.15665085]

>>15665077
why are you playing MC past beta 1.7.3 you weirdo
t. went to 2011 minecon

[Anonymous No.15665087]

this spaceflight thing is taking forever

[Anonymous No.15665096]

>>15664786
...what video?

[Anonymous No.15665103]

>>15665085
1.2_02 is the superior beta version you retard

[Anonymous No.15665111]

>>15665077
I'm excited for create: liftoff because it's the closest we are getting to KSP in Minecraft.

[Anonymous No.15665112]

>>15665087
don’t doubt ur vibe, bro

[Anonymous No.15665124]

>>15665111
Is this a modpack based on an existing space mod or a whole new thing?
I've been waiting for Galacticraft to update since forever.

[Anonymous No.15665143]

>>15665124
It's a space mod still in development. You'll be able to build multistage rockets and even make your own multiblock rocket engines

[Anonymous No.15665162]

>>15665124
>>15665111

[Anonymous No.15665199]

>>15665111
Holy shit, that's big. I haven't played minecraft in 12 years but this might just be something to come back for.

[Anonymous No.15665203]

>>15665111
Now THIS is block gaming

[Anonymous No.15665209]

>>15665199
>haven't played minecraft in 12 years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR8W-f9YhYA
Create looks like its an homage built by block autists from 12yrs ago who grew up and became real software devs
I don't think anyone normal can make the game engine do this

[Anonymous No.15665225]

>>15665096
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-15VC4Yxzys

[Anonymous No.15665235]

>>15665111
have they showed anything for worldgen?
From what I've read they're only going to implement the moon so far.

[Anonymous No.15665239]

>>15665235
They've been secretive about development but it looks like we are gonna get semi-realistic worlds with some fantasy elements

[Anonymous No.15665286]

>>15665239
Anything about the biomes? Galacticraft is very basic but it seems in the new version there will be stuff like marias in the moon.

[Anonymous No.15665290]

>>15664854
There will be also the launch of the japanese SLIM lunar probe and an x-ray telescope too

[Anonymous No.15665298]

>>15663719
It's not a submarine

[Anonymous No.15665304]

>>15663754
Why isn't he doing it?!

[Anonymous No.15665324]

>>15664184
Pehraps they mean15 minutes from the time you tell the network to take a photo of X,Y to the time you can view said photo.

[Anonymous No.15665336]

https://twitter.com/culpable_mink/status/1691200265884741632
less than 15 years separating both pictures

[Anonymous No.15665346]

do you think this will happen in our lifetimes

[Anonymous No.15665355]

Give me a list of your books that turned you into a six figure rocket scientist.

[Anonymous No.15665356]

>>15665346
It is possible but won't happen because no one with the resources needed will bother.
Also, you can't see the rings from Titan.

[Anonymous No.15665364]

>>15664952
The Normie Stare is the single greatest argument against democracy.

[Anonymous No.15665377]

>>15665346
Don't think you can see the sky from titan

[Anonymous No.15665388]

>>15665346
We would be lucky to be alive when it launches

[Anonymous No.15665397]

>>15665346
I wish so much billionaires had space interests beyond fucking around in LEO

[Anonymous No.15665408]

>>15665355
Nothing but hard work and determination gets you a rocket scientist job

The only books that get you into the field are sci-fi and a chance encounter with the author of Ignition!'s humorous blog about chemicals he doesn't want to work with

If you're very lucky, you watched October Sky as a kid and realized amateur rocketry was cool enough to make a hobby, then started pursuing it in earnest in college

[Anonymous No.15665428]

Turns out my dad is now an ayytruther with these recent testimonies. God I fucking hate this deceptive government, I always thought he was smart but to get fooled by complete hearsay and bullshit even when I tell him to his face how this shit is so fake makes me sad. Ayy conspiracies have been a major detriment to the american consciousness at large, and now that even the government is pedalling it I have little hope left that anyone leading this nation is even remotely competent. We stand at the top of the world and insist on kicking each other down the ladder, just sad honestly.

[Anonymous No.15665434]

@15665428
not even worth a you, shit bait

[Anonymous No.15665446]

>its going to be decades or centuries before we see city sized space stations

[Anonymous No.15665456]

>>15665446
Centuries. Dont even try to hand out hopium on this.

[Anonymous No.15665500]

>>15663988
>nuclear thermal to orbit
The thrust to weight ratio is absolute dogshit, like one twentieth of raptor

[Anonymous No.15665507]

>>15665500
we just make it better than raptor

[Anonymous No.15665513]

>>15664184
Yeah, this is 15 minutes to finish a given task, not 15 minutes speed of light delay unless the DOD has devices stationed on Antichthon

[Anonymous No.15665515]

>>15665500
that is why the booster would still stay a conventional chemical rocket
maybe you could put have some raptors left and replace some of them with NTR engines, but that might make the whole thing just needlessly complex

also, how much thrust do you really need when you liftoff from mars?

[Anonymous No.15665517]

>>15665515
Starship can SSTO on Mars so it's still better than NTR cuckrockets for that.

[Anonymous No.15665524]

https://spacenews.com/intuitive-machines-sets-mid-november-launch-date-for-first-lunar-lander/

> The company announced Aug. 14 as part of its second quarter financial results that its IM-1 lunar lander mission is slated for launch on a Falcon 9 during a six-day window that opens Nov. 15 at Launch Complex 39A at the Kennedy Space Center. A backup launch window is available in December.

> IM-1 is not only the first lunar lander mission by Intuitive Machines but also potentially the first lander as part of NASA’s Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS) program. Astrobotic’s Peregrine lunar lander is complete but awaiting the readiness of its launcher, United Launch Alliance’s Vulcan Centaur. That rocket’s inaugural flight, with Peregrine as the prime payload, is planned for no earlier than the fourth quarter.

I think I saw stuff about this in this or previous thread, but couldn't find the link in this thread

[Anonymous No.15665531]

>>15664250
The bigger discovery is mercury on the moon

[Anonymous No.15665532]

>>15665517
I didn't say it would be better to have NTR for SSTO on Mars, I was speculating that the thrust wouldn't be so bad you wouldn't be able to do it with NTR from Mars

[Anonymous No.15665551]

>>15664436
>source: I am willing it into existence because I want it to be true

[Anonymous No.15665552]

>>15664562
I was thinking man in the high castle the whole time

[Anonymous No.15665564]

>>15664564
Are you channeling Bob Smith?

[Anonymous No.15665565]

>>15665555

[Anonymous No.15665570]

>>15664848
How many did it build this year?

[Anonymous No.15665572]

>>15664863
I think being a celebrity and the world's richest man might be a factor, plus he is tall and not bald.

[Anonymous No.15665577]

https://spacenews.com/ast-spacemobile-fully-funds-first-five-commercial-direct-to-device-satellites/

> Avellan expects to start commercial services three months after launching its first batch of five commercial satellites on a Falcon 9 at some point in the first quarter of 2024.

>At around 1,500 kilograms each, these Block 1 satellites are 50% smaller than future BlueBird satellites following production delays and cost overruns — similar to the size of the BlueWalker 3 prototype that SpaceX launched in September.

> Avellan said the company has secured agreements with more than 40 mobile network operators worldwide to use its constellation, representing about 2.4 billion subscribers.

[Anonymous No.15665581]

>>15665397
Google Elon Musk

[Anonymous No.15665582]

https://spacenews.com/nasa-developing-larger-cubesat-payload-adapter-for-sls/

> The earliest the new Nest adapter would be used is the Artemis 5 launch, the second flight of the Block 1B version of the SLS scheduled for no earlier than 2029. There is currently no requirement to fly cubesats on the first Block 1B launch, Artemis 4 in 2028, he said.

what is the point? seems like a waste of money and effort

[Anonymous No.15665584]

>>15665397
there's actually a billionaire space race going on right now, branson, bezos,musk

[Anonymous No.15665593]

>>15665582
>what is the point? seems like a waste of money and effort
>SLS
1-800-COME-ON-SERIOUSLY

[Anonymous No.15665611]

https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1691370619844399105

[Anonymous No.15665617]

>>15665611
China + Russia = Unstoppable Strength

[Anonymous No.15665619]

>>15665584
There is only one racing to space and that's Musk.
Blue Origin lol. Imagine a space company being founded by the richest man just after WW2 and in 1969 they had yet to make orbit.

[Anonymous No.15665623]

>>15665050
It's real

[Anonymous No.15665624]

>>15665584
>Virgin consigned to sub-orbital only
>Blue Origin's orbit-capable rocket only exists on paper
Not really much of a race anymore. I wonder if Rocket Lab guy is a billionaire now after their IPO?

[Anonymous No.15665637]

>>15665619
Slow and steady wins the race. Ever heard of it?

[Anonymous No.15665664]

>>15665020

[Anonymous No.15665669]

>>15663933
>stuff Sam Altman into a locker next
dubs of truth
anyone here following this e/acc stuff?

[Anonymous No.15665674]

>nitter broke again
Noooo elann bloddy

[Anonymous No.15665678]

>>15664719
Oh shit this is the Doge-1 Mission

[Anonymous No.15665695]

>>15665674
Just register on X, buddy.

[Anonymous No.15665714]

>>15665111
Why the fuck is the basic industrialization and mechanization mod doing spaceships?
>hundreds of thousands of blocks in size
>orbital mechanics are fully simulated
This is almost 'Doom on a calculator' levels of computer fuckery.

[Anonymous No.15665717]

[Anonymous No.15665725]

its time
https://annas-archive.org/md5/44df97af2f591f996f58a8ba5ac1dae3

[Anonymous No.15665731]

>>15665695
I don't trust myself not to express hate to women and minorties if i have an account

[Anonymous No.15665733]

I was watching For all Mankind last night and dreamt about an airlaunched NERVA/DRACO nucleared powered shuttle being launched this way.

[Anonymous No.15665738]

>>15665733
not nearly enough TWR

[Anonymous No.15665743]

>>15665584
great bait many (you) much wow

[Anonymous No.15665763]

Truly, one of the only crafts who can rival Starliner in terms of delays and likeliness to explode

[Anonymous No.15665768]

>>15664855
Gonna be cool to look back at these in 2 years time to see how wrong everyone was.

[Anonymous No.15665780]

Does anyone have a picture with Soyuz and caption "For the next 1000 years", or something like that?

[Anonymous No.15665847]

>>15665768
Honestly pretty good given the extrapolation from the source material.

[Anonymous No.15665856]

[Anonymous No.15665871]

>>15665531
Wow, how did it get all the way out there?

[Anonymous No.15665875]

>>15665731
so what, make it anonymous, use a throwaway email for instance, never talk about stuff that you can be identified through (a bit like you should on 4chan)

[Anonymous No.15665884]

>>15665531
Source?

[Anonymous No.15665910]

What are they up to?

[Anonymous No.15665957]

Why is sabatier proccess so hyped up if it needs hydrogen anyway? If you're constrained by water ice on mars you might as well do hydrolox.

[Anonymous No.15665962]

>>15665957
easier to store than hydrogen

[Anonymous No.15665965]

>>15665763
Looks like the ISRO capsule, just in white instead of brown.
Is Russia trying to tell us something here?

[Anonymous No.15665974]

>>15665910
Fill it wit hwater as a mass simulator?
Internal structural mockup, for a life suport system or something similar?
Base structure for an airlock mockup to LARP for crew testing?

[Anonymous No.15665977]

Roscosmos releases first image of Luna 25!

[Anonymous No.15665999]

https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1691339460716154880

[Anonymous No.15666000]

>>15665974
Fill it with piss as a pisslock simulator.

[Anonymous No.15666002]

>>15665957
you can sap CO2 from atmosphere for additional fuel
you can make 111kg of hydrogen (plus oxygen ofc) out of 1 ton of ice but you can make 444 kg of methane from 1 ton of ice
hydrogen ISP isn't better enough to make methane not worth it
also this >>15665962

[Anonymous No.15666033]

Good morning /sfg/ I hate hydrogen

[Anonymous No.15666035]

>>15665977
did it crashed?

[Anonymous No.15666037]

>>15666002
True. Also never this argument before.

[Anonymous No.15666045]

[Anonymous No.15666050]

it would be nearing Uranus by now ...

[Anonymous No.15666068]

>>15665999
Should be shipped with default Starlink purchase.

Skimping out on ethernet ports was a dumb decision.

[Anonymous No.15666076]

>>15665957
Hydrogen lures you in with a simple extraction process but then fucks you on pretty much every aspect after that, except for great isp—which you don’t need anyway because running a raptor on methalox is still pretty damn good

[Anonymous No.15666103]

>>15666050
It would have been out of maneuvering fuel by the time it left and would have required ten years of funding from the planetary science budget to keep on life support while it traveled producing few to no useful scientific observations. NASA understood that they'd be better off just designing a dedicated Uranus probe than repurposing a geriatric Saturn mission.

They also understood that any of those options would have required diverting precious funds from Mars Sample Return, and you just can't do something like that.

[Anonymous No.15666108]

>>15665397
>>15665584
Isn't Bill Gates also throwing money at a launch company?

[Anonymous No.15666112]

>>15666108
Yes, he invested in Stoke Space.

[Anonymous No.15666113]

>>15666103
>designing a dedicated Uranus probe
No sign whatsoever of that materializing
> diverting precious funds from Mars Sample Return
You know that just got cancelled don't you?

[Anonymous No.15666133]

>>15666068
No ethernet is extremely gay and the router sucks too. My continued use of Starlink is entirely predicated on my extreme dislike of Verizon. When I get a choice ditching Starlink.

[Anonymous No.15666145]

>>15666133
>No ethernet
Why do you lie?

[Anonymous No.15666147]

>>15666133
Right now, if you have a choice, Starlink probably isn't for you.

Down the line however, 3-4 years from now, I suspect much better system, cheaper and much more robust network.

When they expand their starlink capacity, they'll want to sell to more customers for less price.

[Anonymous No.15666148]

>>15665582
>>15665593
Anon is right, NASA will delay on the pad again so the batteries die, just like Atimeis 1.

[Anonymous No.15666194]

>>15666035
nah, I think it's suppose to look like that.

[Anonymous No.15666260]

>>15665733
Soviet one stage to orbit spaceplane (Buran got funding over this)

[Anonymous No.15666266]

>>15666260
>(Buran got funding over this)
Good. Get snowstorm’d; SSTOs are GAY

[Anonymous No.15666273]

>>15666266
but Buran doesn't have a nuclear engine :(

[Anonymous No.15666277]

Cute barely legal Braun!

>>15666266
Even an open cycle nuclear thermal SSTO?

[Anonymous No.15666291]

>>15666068
>>15666133
Wait, did they unironically make a router with zero ethernet ports? If so, that's top gay.
t.Google Fiber has been digging here the past few weeks

[Anonymous No.15666300]

EUS lox dome, can’t say I’m too excited to see this

[Anonymous No.15666308]

>>15666291
>Wait, did they unironically make a router with zero ethernet ports
You need to buy an adapter that goes between router and dish to have an ethernet port with the version 2 router.

[Anonymous No.15666309]

>>15666266
Digits confirm. And I remember that that Nixon quote about SSTOs being gay.

[Anonymous No.15666310]

>>15666308
>>15666291
Yeah kinda sucks. Given that ethernet adapters out there are ~$50 or so when adding it to the router would add no more than $1 extra in cost.

[Anonymous No.15666312]

>>15666310
You have to nickel and dime your way to Mars anon, it ain’t gonna be cheap

[Anonymous No.15666314]

>>15666310
Version 3 router seems to come with ethernet ports again.

[Anonymous No.15666317]

https://twitter.com/JoelSercel/status/1691439781715329024

400 km diameter Asteroid heading towards earth with >3% chance of impact in the next 3 days.

[Anonymous No.15666320]

>>15666317
It's over...

[Anonymous No.15666323]

>>15666317
Please hit India

[Anonymous No.15666328]

>>15666317
We are so back

[Anonymous No.15666332]

>>15666317
400m*

[Anonymous No.15666335]

>>15666317
>400km
Heh, bet you'd already see it at night. But anyway, it'd be nice to have a real happening

[Anonymous No.15666334]

>>15666317
Please hit Russia. Gotta pay the tax for being the largest country.

[Anonymous No.15666338]

>>15666332
this is WAY less exciting

[Anonymous No.15666340]

>>15666332
BOOOOO

[Anonymous No.15666341]

>>15666317
lets go lets go lets go lets go

[Anonymous No.15666346]

>>15666332
Dammit.

[Anonymous No.15666349]

>>15666340
>>15666338
My friends Chelyabinsk was 20m, Tunguska was 80m
This is at Apophis scale, which would be 1 GT or 20 tsar bomba
Anyway sounds sketchy we haven't seen it earlier.

[Anonymous No.15666351]

>>15666332
How big do they think the Tunguska one was? Also do we know the composition? If it's iron rich it could make it to the ground instead of hitting the wall and airbursting

[Anonymous No.15666353]

>>15666349
We are so back, again

[Anonymous No.15666354]

>>15666351
which would be worst/better

[Anonymous No.15666355]

>>15666354
I wanna see a crater, so I hope it hits the ground hard. An airburst in the right spot could be more destructive though, for the same reason nukes don't go off at ground level.

[Anonymous No.15666356]

>>15666349
It would not cause a major tsunami. On land it would destroy one city.
It's simply not big enough

[Anonymous No.15666358]

https://newton.spacedys.com/neodys2/NEOScan/index_risk.html

[Anonymous No.15666359]

>>15666356
Maybe a city wiped off the map by an errant space rock would get world powers to work a little bit harder on their space programs

[Anonymous No.15666360]

>>15666332
kek you got me anon

[Anonymous No.15666361]

>>15666358
Does this mean that there are frequently impactors with 1/10th the chance of impact and nothing happens? 0.3% probability sounds high too.

[Anonymous No.15666367]

>>15666361
it's 3.4% though

[Anonymous No.15666369]

>>15666361
https://newton.spacedys.com/neodys2/NEOScan/index.html

Impact flag - 3
PHA- 1.0

So yeah its significant but maybe nothing

[Anonymous No.15666372]

>>15666356
>gigaton explosion is nbd
has /sfg/ contrarianism gone too far?

[Anonymous No.15666373]

>>15666349
I know but 400km would have been asinine even if it flew outside of the Moon’s orbit. That would be THE wake up call for this planet

[Anonymous No.15666377]

>>15666373
400m right into a downtown metropolitan area is still a huge wake up call

[Anonymous No.15666378]

>>15665624
New Glenn isn't a paper rocket anymore.

[Anonymous No.15666379]

>>15666367
I'm talking about the others on that list.

>>15666317
Apparently we are past the maximum estimate time of impact
Closest approach time of impactors: t_min = 2023/08/14 04:48 TDB and t_max = 2023/08/15 12:22 TDB

[Anonymous No.15666380]

>>15666317
How are we not 100% certain if it will impact or not with only 3 days remaining? Inability to measure its velocity perfectly? Inability to determine with precision what gravity will do to it?

I just hope it hits on youtube so people start taking asteroids seriously. Hopefully it'll take out some animals so it'll have a paper straw effect

[Anonymous No.15666381]

>>15666317
https://neal.fun/asteroid-launcher/

[Anonymous No.15666382]

>>15666379
noooo

[Anonymous No.15666383]

>>15666372
Chicxulub was 10000 gigatons. If it went in the ocean literally nothing major would happen.

[Anonymous No.15666384]

>>15666379
AN AIRBURST SPACE ROCK JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE

[Anonymous No.15666385]

>>15666373
>Earth casually buzzed by something almost the size of Vesta
Would be an excellent couple of weeks watching it in the night sky, and hearing the lamentations of the panicked masses.

[Anonymous No.15666386]

>>15666359
like a Rendezvous with Rama monitoring system because a meteor wiped Italy out

[Anonymous No.15666387]

>>15666385
Would be /comfy/ to the max that’s for sure

[Anonymous No.15666397]

>>15666386
It'd be worth a city to finally get some defensive measures set up against the only extinction-level events we have a shot at preventing.

[Anonymous No.15666398]

>>15666386
>meteor
meteorite you dolt

[Anonymous No.15666400]

>>15666378
True it's transitioning from Paper rocket to "testing hell"

[Anonymous No.15666402]

>>15666332
>>15666317
Wait what the fuck, there was a 3% chance some random spot on our planet would get Tsar bomba'd and governments are still spending a measley amount of resources on asteroid deflection and launch systems.

[Anonymous No.15666403]

>>15666317
interesting
how much damage would 400m asteroid do? level a city center I guess?

https://neal.fun/asteroid-launcher/

[Anonymous No.15666407]

>>15666402
This has always been the case, anon.
Yes, I know how you feel. Me too.

[Anonymous No.15666408]

>>15666403
looks pretty bad

[Anonymous No.15666409]

>>15666408

[Anonymous No.15666410]

>>15666408
Just close your eyes and put on sunscreen, this is not that bad

[Anonymous No.15666411]

>>15666403
6000 megatons. It would destroy any city on earth completely.

[Anonymous No.15666413]

>>15666317
>it's a nothingburger
yawn

[Anonymous No.15666415]

>>15666398
It's actually asteroiditeoideor

[Anonymous No.15666416]

>>15666409
I can see my house from here

[Anonymous No.15666418]

>>15666409

[Anonymous No.15666419]

>>15666411
millions must die

[Anonymous No.15666424]

>>15666403
even with shallowest angle and lowest speed, something like 650k+ people die from the shock wave and high winds (no fireball apparently)

[Anonymous No.15666428]

>>15666418
>>15666424
>one billion trillion mph wind speed
are you sure your calculator is accurate?

[Anonymous No.15666431]

>>15666428
kek wtf

[Anonymous No.15666438]

Congratulation, we missed an Apophis-danger impactor

Now go back to your regularly scheduled entertainment.

[Anonymous No.15666449]

OHNONONONONONO

[Anonymous No.15666453]

>>15666449
wonder why, considering they are the number 1 spacefaring nation.

[Anonymous No.15666459]

Have you considered the constructive use of giant impacts?

[Anonymous No.15666466]

>>15666459
Australia is just begging for a big inland sea.

[Anonymous No.15666471]

>>15666453
>stab your business partners in the back
>why will no-one do business with us, why do they shun us so?

[Anonymous No.15666472]

I am once again asking to you detonate a gigaton nuke on the far side of the sun to pin down these NEOs once and for all

[Anonymous No.15666476]

>>15666449

[Anonymous No.15666478]

>>15666380
NRO glowies already know
just not civiies

[Anonymous No.15666481]

>>15666472
Thats awesome

[Anonymous No.15666487]

>>15666466
They already have below sealevel basins but its too dry for them to be filled most of the time. ( including an old impact crater)

[Anonymous No.15666494]

>>15666317
Dubs decide where it lands

[Anonymous No.15666498]

>meanwhile in the /sfg/ astroid bunker...

[Anonymous No.15666499]

Falcon Super Heavy when?

[Anonymous No.15666500]

>>15666476
Kek

[Anonymous No.15666501]

>>15666499
I feel like having common cores with 9 engines is way too fucking much power in this case.

[Anonymous No.15666502]

>>15666494
israel

[Anonymous No.15666505]

>>15666403
I like that it defaults to Billionaires Row in NYC

[Anonymous No.15666507]

>>15666499
NEED a Starship super-heavy with 4 falcon 9 boosters strapped onto it Energia style

[Anonymous No.15666511]

>>15666494
tel aviv

[Anonymous No.15666518]

>>15666494
halfway between Washington and NYC would do a power of good

[Anonymous No.15666525]

>>15666518
>fuck this planet in particular

[Anonymous No.15666528]

>>15666494
Moscow

[Anonymous No.15666531]

>>15666511
Goodbye Jewland

[Anonymous No.15666535]

Tankies are delusional

[Anonymous No.15666536]

>>15666415
>if you don't respect an asteroid's pronouns, it will go all colony drop on you
>>15666317
The best would be if it skimmed the atmosphere just close enough to make a fiery show and then get captured. But its orbit would be unstable enough that it encourages us to get our asses to space right away to do something about it.

[Anonymous No.15666539]

>>15666494
Israel

[Anonymous No.15666542]

>>15666535
Especially this one

[Anonymous No.15666543]

>>15666531
Would laso destroy palestinian territories, and most of the inhabited parts of Jordan and lebanon.

[Anonymous No.15666544]

>>15666542
>I can't think

Explains a lot

[Anonymous No.15666545]

>>15666535
How censored is the russian internet/twitter? Is it 100% their own fault they never looked any of this shit up? Just want to know how sympathetic I should be in WW3

[Anonymous No.15666546]

why are you posting random xeets again
We already taught you this lesson old man

[Anonymous No.15666548]

>>15666356
>It would not cause a major tsunami
Are you sure mens?

[Anonymous No.15666551]

>>15666542
This has to be a bot

[Anonymous No.15666553]

>>15666546
Those are posts, not xeets.

[Anonymous No.15666554]

>>15666499
When I brought this up the other day it was pointed out that the booster return only works if it's going slow enough at MECO

Maybe a Falcon Superheavy as three cores with Raptors instead? They'd have to get bigger tanks too

(At that point you're two thirds of the way to the thought process that created Starship)

[Anonymous No.15666565]

>>15666548
Yes. 1 gigaton is pretty small compared to things like earthquakes

[Anonymous No.15666567]

>>15666565
but enough about your mom

[Anonymous No.15666570]

>>15666543
fine by me; they're annoying too
>>15666545
meghan jess is some idiot living in the US, I'd lay money on it

[Anonymous No.15666571]

>>15666424
>>15666428
>400m asteroid impacts Earth
>instantly accelerates all atmospheric particles within 5.5 miles to nearly 9c

[Anonymous No.15666574]

>>15666571
>the following superluminal shockwave sends all of Earth back in time to before the asteroid impacted

[Anonymous No.15666588]

https://www.darpa.mil/news-events/2023-08-15

[Anonymous No.15666597]

>>15666588
>LUNar Architecture
>LunA
Wow, never in the history of human governments has a backronym as clever as this been proposed

[Anonymous No.15666601]

What could they be spying on?

[Anonymous No.15666622]

Retar here, why couldn't SpaceX literally just replace the 9 Merlin engines on Falcon with 3 Raptors? Surely going from kerosene to methane isn't that hard in rocketry

[Anonymous No.15666629]

>>15666622
Why would they? They are building Starship.

[Anonymous No.15666632]

>>15666622
Raptor was originally designed to be used as an upper stage on Falcon
The they decided they should just build BFR/ITS/Starship. There’s no point in trying to bootleg a huge raptor onto falcon at this point. Most payloads SX are being paid to send up fit on F9 now that merlin has been upgraded so much. And they have FH for the remaining payloads that need a little more power

[Anonymous No.15666635]

>>15666622
because raptors are unreliable :^)

[Anonymous No.15666637]

>>15666635
Not the right answer. They would not do it either were raptors reliable.

[Anonymous No.15666649]

>>15666622
The simplest answer is the first stage of the rocket isn't stage 1, the booster, it's stage 0, the pad and ground infrastructure. All that would have to be redesigned, not just the rocket.

[Anonymous No.15666651]

Staging

>>15666650

>>15666650

>>15666650

[Anonymous No.15666667]

>>15666466

[Anonymous No.15666679]

>>15666545
I'm no epic haxxor, and I can easily access any information from abroad. Sometimes a VPN is needed, but that's it. It's wholly their fault.

[Anonymous No.15666699]

>>15666622
waste of development time, Starship will obsolete falcon 9 for non-crew

[Anonymous No.15666702]

>>15666476
>Hello, UN?
ftfy

[Anonymous No.15666791]

>>15666622
Now you have 2 different engines and fuel types on Falcon.

[Anonymous No.15666802]

>>15665581
he wants to fuck around in mars instead

[Anonymous No.15666868]

>>15666494
san francisco

[Anonymous No.15666898]

>>15665446
City sized space stations will be common by turn of the century if Starship succeeds in its mission objectives by 2075.

[Anonymous No.15666909]

>NSF soiboy with speech impediment
why are tankwatchers like this?