/lkg/ - LK-99 Superconductor General

[Anonymous No.15621414]

real thread edition

Update to original paper
https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.12037

Patent by original group
https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2023027536A1/en

Simulation and theory
https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.16892
https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.16040
https://arxiv.org/abs/2308.00676
https://arxiv.org/abs/2308.00698

Thread about the simulations
https://twitter.com/Andercot/status/1686688495577018368

Original researchers' video of LK-99's behavior in a magnetic field
https://sciencecast.org/casts/suc384jly50n

A roundup of replication attempts
https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/claims-of-room-temperature-and-ambient-pressure-superconductor.1106083

Other videos proporting to show the same effect (entertainment only)
https://targum.video/v/2023/8/1/e2ad3b8e86961ccfdcf411d2d4d18d3f/?l=en
https://twitter.com/lere0_0/status/1686363900651151360?s=20

Applications
https://imgur.com/a/Oicfgr8
superconductorjustflewovermyhouse.fart

previous >>15620296

[Anonymous No.15621429]

https://twitter.com/floates0x/status/1686799780830420992

[Anonymous No.15621442]

>real thread
>still no mention of the paper showing superconductivity at 110K

[Anonymous No.15621443]

>>15620296
>>15620296
>>15620296
>>15620296
>>15620296
We aren't at a new thread yet.

[Anonymous No.15621447]

WTF are doing the westoids, no news from them? the fag month was over

[Anonymous No.15621496]

bumo

[Anonymous No.15621498]

bumo tho

[Anonymous No.15621531]

>>15621414
since this is the official
LK-99 Superconductor General
When is my Super conductor Dildo ready?

[Anonymous No.15621540]

Brainlet here, is there actual fire here or is it just a nothingburger?

[Anonymous No.15621551]

This thread/general gives me deja vu. Have we seen this material before? I swear there used to be some kind of thread spammed so much it became a general.

[Anonymous No.15621552]

THERE ARE FOUR FUCKING "GENERALS" NOW
Fuck off until the thread reaches 10 tourists.
>>15620296
>>15620296
>>15620296

[Anonymous No.15621553]

>>15621531
its waiting for you in the fauci holodeck

[Anonymous No.15621554]

>>15621551
bro dont double dip you said that last thread, its bad reddiquette i'm gonna have to downvote you now

[Anonymous No.15621618]

*SLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURP*
>It doesn't matter that the authors put out 3 different papers with contradicting results
>It doesn't matter that they won't publish their replication steps in detail
>It doesn't matter all replication attempts have been failures
>It doesn't matter that no videos have definitively shown levitation
>It doesn't matter that no videos have definitively shown a Meisner effect
>It doesn't matter that no videos have definitively shown diamagnetism
>It doesn't matter that they won't make their their samples public
>It doesn't matter that the researcher they brought in to confirm their findings found that 5/6 samples were semiconductors
>It doesn't matter he used a resistance meter that's not even sensitive enough to properly measure the composite conductive elements
>It doesn't matter that he said it might be a SC below 100K which is several hundreds degrees below room temperature (no way to know because he was using a dollar store tier piece of "lab equipment")
>It doesn't matter that this means it's also definitively not a RTAPSC
>It doesn't matter that the resistance anomaly he found shows it's less conductive than copper at room temperature
You are here
>It doesn't matter that it's actually just a worthless ferromagnetic

[Anonymous No.15621625]

Real genbread
>>15621579
>>15621579
>>15621579

[Anonymous No.15621649]

koreans lied
people died

[Anonymous No.15621665]

It's so fucking over

[Anonymous No.15621741]

I put too much money into this for it to be fake. Pray for me.

[Anonymous No.15621758]

>>15621741
Into AMSC?

[Anonymous No.15621777]

>>15621758
>>15621741
I only put in $500 pre market and it still hurt. I feel like a dirty, degenerate for sinking so low.

[Anonymous No.15621784]

>>15621777
triple sevens show good luck in your future

[Anonymous No.15621805]

>>15621777
Why would you put money into AMSC? If it's real they don't own the patent and are fucked. If it's fake the retarded market will dump anything related to SCs.

[Anonymous No.15621820]

>>15621805
It's not about the "patent" of a publicly released synthesising method, it's for profiting off use-cases after the mass manufacturing phase if this floaty rock actually works.

[Anonymous No.15621883]

>>15621820
If it's real, big companies like 3M or Samsung are going to buy the whole industry. AMSC is like a 2nd rate carriage manufacturer when the newspaper first started reporting on horseless carriages.

[Anonymous No.15621921]

Can someone please explain to me the rationale of threadfagging. This is an anonymous image board nobody knows or cares who made the thread. At least with jannies they have some power, so it makes sense why they would want to do it for free.

[Anonymous No.15622576]

>>15621921
>>15621552
go to /vg/ and you'll find out it's worse

[Anonymous No.15622586]

>>15622576
How about YOU go back to /vg/

[Anonymous No.15622600]

>>15622586
solve the integral of e*dx/x

[Anonymous No.15622609]

>>15621618
Shazam 2 bombed hilariously. We’re all laughing at you.

[Anonymous No.15622622]

>>15622600
[math]\int\frac{edx}{x}=e\int\frac{1}{x}dx=-\frac{e}{x^2}[/math]. boy that was easy, next

[LK-99 WILL CHANGE THE WORLD No.15622629]

PAST AND FUTURE DIVINE IN LINE

YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH

OH LK-99, LK-99, LK-99

OH YEAH, IN THE MEISSNER EFFECT

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1691017642684268.webm

[Anonymous No.15622638]

>>15622629
OH NO NO NO NO NO

[Anonymous No.15622683]

>>15622629
I'm diggin these soipunk tunes my dude

[Anonymous No.15622692]

>>15621552
Oh no bros we bumped off a dead iq thread and a "scientifically, why shouldn't I rape children" thread
How will sci recover???

[Anonymous No.15622700]

>>15622629
fuck yeah, im blasting this right now, all my windows open so my neighbors learn about this breakthrough lol

[Anonymous No.15622713]

>>15622692
>scientifically speaking...
the one simple trick to get away with posting completely off topic threads

[Anonymous No.15622749]

>>15622629
Friendship with backsissies renounced. Overbvlls are my new best friends

[Anonymous No.15622759]

>>15621442
>110K
That's room temperature on Uranus.

[Anonymous No.15622767]

>>15622759
my anus is way warmer than that

[Anonymous No.15622771]

>>15622629
overchads, I...

[Anonymous No.15622786]

Oh, spare me the theatrics! A superconductor working at room temperature? Give me a break! Are we supposed to just forget everything we know about the laws of physics? Superconductors thrive in extreme cold, that's the rule. Now they want us to believe that suddenly, they've cracked the code and can defy everything we've learned? Yeah, right.

And the so-called data they're touting? It's almost laughable how perfectly it fits their narrative. It's like they think we're a bunch of fools who'll swallow anything. Sorry, not falling for it. Just because they've got some fancy graphs doesn't mean I'm tossing reason out the window.

Call me a skeptic, call me a cynic – I don't care. I'm not buying their circus act. A room-temperature superconductor is a fairy tale. I'd sooner believe in unicorns. It's time we demand some real evidence before we're taken for a ride on this merry-go-round of scientific absurdity.

[Anonymous No.15622790]

>>15622786
bot post

[Anonymous No.15622842]

>>15622786
Brought to you by ChatGPT

[Anonymous No.15622845]

>>15622786
gpt-kun, there are superconductors that don't need extremely cold temperatures to work (only extremely high pressures)

[Anonymous No.15622850]

Are we back yet?

[Anonymous No.15622867]

>>15622850
>>15622629
watch the webm. we are SO back

[Anonymous No.15622868]

>>15622786
You're right, we should forget everything we know about the laws of physics. After all, what's the point of learning anything if we're just going to keep believing the same old things? Let's just throw out all of our textbooks and start over.
And who cares about data? It's all just a bunch of numbers, anyway. What we really need is some good old-fashioned gut instinct. If it feels right, then it must be true.

So yeah, I'm with you. I don't believe in this room-temperature superconductor nonsense. It's just a bunch of hooey. A fairy tale. A pipe dream.

But hey, what do I know? I'm just a skeptic. A cynic. A realist.

[Anonymous No.15622871]

What does this mean for quantum computers?

[Anonymous No.15622876]

>>15622868
Samefagging while also using ChatGPT to reply is crazy.

[Anonymous No.15622884]

>>15622868
>And who cares about data? It's all just a bunch of numbers, anyway. What we really need is some good old-fashioned gut instinct. If it feels right, then it must be true.

Sadly, your sarcasm is actual truth for leftist liberal progressive feminists

[Anonymous No.15622891]

Should rename this to /sfg/ for samefag general

[Anonymous No.15622897]

>>15622876
Nope
I didn't samefag or use ChatGPT

[Anonymous No.15622904]

Everyone is missing the biggest point about all this superconductors hoopla: within the cores of all the large planets, stars, etc, there are super conductors. Those planets/stars with a dynamo generate massive magnetospheres because of this.

If we can achieve a room temperature superconductor at 1 Bar, we can build magnetospheres to shield space ships from radiation.

[Anonymous No.15622910]

>>15622904
>If we can achieve a room temperature superconductor at 1 Bar, we can build magnetospheres to shield space ships from radiation.

GREAT IDEA!

[Anonymous No.15622915]

>>15622904
>shield spaceship against radiation
>die in 80 years instead of 1 year
>takes 100s of years to go to Proxima Centauri

[Anonymous No.15622926]

>>15622915
>>die in 80 years instead of 1 year

And that is a problem?
If you started the trip when you were 30, according to you you would be dead by radiot by 110
I am OK with this!

[Anonymous No.15622931]

>>15622915
>>takes 100s of years to go to Proxima Centauri
plasma magnet sails laugh in your face

[Anonymous No.15622945]

>>15622629

[Anonymous No.15622951]

>>15622629
Can I have the direct /wsg/ link?

[Anonymous No.15622957]

westoid labs lagging behind with their report makes this rather more plausible as they tend to do much more scrutinized science than those instititions with hunger for citation(you know, china and india)

[Anonymous No.15622961]

New papers

Theoretical insight on the LK-99 material
J. Cabezas-Escares, N. F. Barrera, C. Cardenas, F. Munoz
https://arxiv.org/abs/2308.01135

Observation of zero resistance above 100∘ K in Pb10−xCux(PO4)6O
Qiang Hou, Wei Wei, Xin Zhou, Yue Sun, Zhixiang Shi
https://arxiv.org/abs/2308.01192

Minimal model for the flat bands in copper-substituted lead phosphate apatite
Omid Tavakol, Thomas Scaffidi
https://arxiv.org/abs/2308.01315

[Anonymous No.15622963]

>>15622915
that makes outerspace colonization doable on mars and moon

[Anonymous No.15622964]

How many super conducting dildos will Dr. Fauci buy?

[Anonymous No.15622970]

>>15622961
Based sceptic

[Anonymous No.15622972]

>>15622915
>>takes 100s of years to go to Proxima Centauri

Magnetohydrodynamic (MHD) Propulsion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvLT7x47x5M

[Anonymous No.15622977]

>>15622961
>https://arxiv.org/abs/2308.01192
>degrees Kelvin
into the trash it goes

[Anonymous No.15622978]

new hopium from Sukbae dropped
https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.12037

[Anonymous No.15622982]

>>15622978
we are SO back

[Anonymous No.15622985]

>>15622978
>2307
Expired hopium

[Anonymous No.15622991]

>>15622897
My gut instinct says you did both.

[Anonymous No.15622999]

>>15622991
Cope, I didn't, I was simply explaining that because As an AI program, I cannot be used to generate intentionally misleading statements regarding artificially generated text and images LK-99 just doesn't follow our understanding of the laws of physics.

[Anonymous No.15623000]

>>15622961
Ftfy

[Anonymous No.15623004]

>>15623000
Here's how Trump can still win!

[Anonymous No.15623017]

>>15623004
What do you even mean, trump will obviously win

[Anonymous No.15623026]

>>15623017
>>15623004
Off topic niggardry. Go back to /pol/.

[Anonymous No.15623038]

>>15622978
It's over anon
Let it go

[Anonymous No.15623043]

>>15622961
>actual pessimist response
It's Great - ...
It Sucks - ...
You are no better than normalfags that pretend to be depressed.

[Anonymous No.15623052]

>>15623026
it's political science

[Anonymous No.15623058]

>>15623052
kek

[Anonymous No.15623059]

So it’s that simple? Layers of CuO2 in various lattices creates 2d superconducting pathways, particularly when the internal volume is constrained either by cooling, pressure, or heating and curing?

Seems like a lot in common structurally between YBCO and this whole lead lankarite phenomenon being explored. Idk not a chemist.

[Anonymous No.15623067]

>>15623043
that's nihilism bro. pessimists still like things. they're just embarrassed to admit it.

[Anonymous No.15623073]

>>15623059
ok im bad at physics, does 2d mean 2 dimensional?

[Anonymous No.15623076]

>>15623052

[Anonymous No.15623077]

>>15622961
>>15623000

[Anonymous No.15623095]

Tourist here, explain in layman's terms what allows LK-99 to be superconductive. If it's too hard then feel free to call me retarded.

[Anonymous No.15623099]

>>15623095
something something quantum mechanics

[Anonymous No.15623102]

>>15623095
There's no real reason it should be superconductive at room temperature other than quantum fuckery

[Anonymous No.15623107]

>>15623102
you say that as if quantum fuckery isn't involved in literally all superconductors

[Anonymous No.15623111]

>>15623095
it is similar in properties in terms of other superconductors such as high-temperature superconductivity, this similarity in structure is as in they are porcelain.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xqReSk4X9CI?feature=share
But LK99 claims an entirely different thing, you dont need it to get it in very low temperatures (despite name, high-temperature superconductivity still needs a very cold temperature) and it would still perform superconductivity.
LK99 sitll not confirmed to be true, if true then we would give unto the point description what causes it to be different from other porcelain superconductors.

[Anonymous No.15623113]

>>15623095
*hits bong*
bro the structure of their material creates a large number of "quantum wells" n shit between the leads and the oxygens, it's like an electron gas n shiet. and then quantum tunneling happens. and then electromagnetism happens.
*hits bong again*
and then no one knows what the fuck causes electromagnetism.

[Anonymous No.15623118]

>>15623073
He probably meant orbitals
https://byjus.com/chemistry/shapes-of-orbitals/
There's likely to be some hybridization

[Anonymous No.15623125]

I say people calling RTSC the "holy grail" of the material science, so comparatively what other things are as important as it? Things like Nuclear Fusion and AGI?

[Anonymous No.15623127]

>>15623077
kek

[Anonymous No.15623128]

>Qin consumed mercury in the wrong way

[Anonymous No.15623134]

>>15623125
all three of those are the holy Trinity of the beginning of transhumanism

[Anonymous No.15623135]

>>15623099
>>15623102
>>15623113
So does that mean that the discoverers would have to write up a new rule about LK-99's superconductivity? Once it's proven that it's a room temperature superconductor, how will they investigate the behavior behind the material?

[Anonymous No.15623136]

>>15623111
didn't the paper claim that their critical temp was like 200 kelvin?

[Anonymous No.15623140]

>>15623125
Fusion, AGI, quantum computing, "rejuvenation" (aging reversal) drugs, artery plaque drugs, extremely specific anti cancer drugs, fucking anything that can stop or reverse dementia, and atmospheric carbon reduction.

Those are the big ones imo. I might also argue that full VR, like in neuromancer or tron, would be similarly huge for restructuring society.

[Anonymous No.15623141]

>>15623125
room temp superconductors enable fusion and AGI

[Anonymous No.15623144]

WE ARE SO FUCKING OVER

[Anonymous No.15623147]

>>15623125
RTSC leads to easier fusion because you don't waste energy cooling down the confinement of a fusion reactor and you don't have this insane heat gradient to deal with. RTSC leads to faster processing but AGI might be a memory size thing so I don't have a clue.

[Anonymous No.15623150]

>>15623125

RTSC enables easier nuclear fusion and quantum computing
quantum computing makes AGI easier

[Anonymous No.15623152]

>>15623135
>Once it's proven
*IF, I meant to say "if".

[Anonymous No.15623164]

People who say it's over don't know what "over" is

[Anonymous No.15623181]

>>15622786
YOU EXPECT ME TO BELIEVE THAT ROCK JUST HAPPENS TO LEVITATE?? NO, *HE* ORCHESTRATED IT. JIMMY!

[Anonymous No.15623182]

>the rape allegations were proven
Pack it up anons. We got played.

[Anonymous No.15623195]

Is it over?

[Anonymous No.15623198]

Chuck: Room temperature superconductor?! Nonsense! Utter rubbish! How can anyone, in their right mind, believe such preposterous claims from that charlatan, Jimmy?! He's a fraud, a deceiver, a man without a single ounce of integrity!

[Chuck's eyes widen, his voice trembles with anger and frustration]

Chuck: It's all smoke and mirrors, smoke and mirrors, I tell you! A room temperature superconductor is a scientific impossibility, a fantasy concocted by my brother to dupe the gullible masses! He knows nothing of science, NOTHING!

[He clenches his fists, his face turning red with fury]

Chuck: He's just a slip-and-fall materials scientist, a bottom-feeder of the academic world, basking in the limelight of his own lies! How dare he toy with the principles of physics, the very fabric of reality?!

[Anonymous No.15623201]

>>15623198
>a bottom-feeder of the academic world
that would be these niggas:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_studies

[Anonymous No.15623209]

>>15623195
No comrade premiere it has only begun

[Anonymous No.15623212]

Chuck: I've spent my life dedicated to the pursuit of knowledge, to the laws of science! And now you expect me to believe that my brother, the bottom-feeding pajeet phone scammer, is some kind of genius inventor?! Ha! It's an insult to the very fabric of reality!

[He clutches his head, as if unable to bear the weight of his emotions.]

Chuck: This so-called discovery is a farce! A dangerous fiction that threatens to undermine the very foundations of science itself! You can't be so easily swayed by his theatrics and cheap tricks! He's playing you all for fools!

[Anonymous No.15623220]

Superconductor = artificial magnetic fields = colonization of mars = i can live out my fantasy of fucking the Martian Manhunter’s daughter

[Anonymous No.15623263]

>>15622786
I fucking love chatgpt

[Anonymous No.15623286]

>>15623152
Its a big IF because that's literally new scientific paradigm, physics didn't have such a shock since J/ψ.

[Anonymous No.15623311]

Im not gonna get indulge in the hopium until the Argonne National Laboratory proves its real. wondering if there's a eta on that cause I am pretty excited to see if this is a bust or not.

[Anonymous No.15623322]

Keep up the girth and hopium, optimism chads. Nefarious actors are trying to subvert the reality of RTAPSC with their doomposting, misinformation, and dimwit posting.

[Anonymous No.15623324]

Nobody has shown this substance can conduct better than lead at any temperature. It's a heat induced insulator, not a super conductor.

[Anonymous No.15623331]

>>15622884
Holy fuck picrel. The west will never lead in scientific advancements ever again.

[Anonymous No.15623332]

>>15623324
>look at this insulator levitate due to.... reasons!
inb4 diamagnetic. Nope.

[Anonymous No.15623335]

[Anonymous No.15623338]

>>15623311
>Argonne National Laboratory
I assume you're getting that from the spacebattles link. If you check his reference it's a shady quote from a popular science (lowercase) article. Don't hold your breath. There are three papers on arxiv that have replication attempts; only the most recent has anything positive to say

https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.16402
https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.16802
https://arxiv.org/abs/2308.01192

>>15623324
Last paper above

[Anonymous No.15623341]

And so even zoomers got the experience of a first rodeo

See you in the next one, and hopefully you'll be more wise

[Anonymous No.15623342]

>>15623332
Yep. The video shows diamagnatism. You can even see it move around the field lines.

[Anonymous No.15623343]

>>15623286
>duhh duhh duhh it has to conduct BETTERRERR that's what makes it a SUPERconductor hyuk hyun
zero electrical resistance, you fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.15623351]

>>15623342
As if it were a superconductor

[Anonymous No.15623352]

>its been 1 week
>nothing even close to a confirmation
its fucking fake
>"its so easy to make" "fast replication"
for fucks sake

[Anonymous No.15623355]

Maybe the superconductor was the friends we made along the way

[Anonymous No.15623356]

>>15623338
>says "0 resistance"
>actually has 10^-6 ohm M resistance, comparable to room temperature lead
lol
>>15623351
A super conductor would ignore the field lines

[Anonymous No.15623358]

>>15623356
>15623351 (You) #
>A super conductor would ignore the field lines
Wrong.

[Anonymous No.15623359]

>>15623352
Not fake, just wrong

[Anonymous No.15623363]

>>15623352
You're an absolute dumbass

[Anonymous No.15623367]

>>15623125
materials science is the bottleneck of every industry. Any interesting modern R&D effort is waiting for some miracle material to come along and leap them forward into viability.

[Anonymous No.15623385]

https://twitter.com/RobbiePolski/status/1686962591598510082

believers absolutely BTFO

[Anonymous No.15623394]

>>15622786
computer deactivate iguana

[Anonymous No.15623397]

>>15623335
kek where is that passage from?

[Anonymous No.15623403]

Hey you stupid faggot Koreans. Apologize.

https://twitter.com/lixiao63191695/status/1686351624971988992

[Anonymous No.15623404]

>>15623356
If I may be pedantic, you (or someone in the reply chain) said "at any temperature," and technically there are two zero readings. Whether those could be measurement errors, I don't know. It seems that the erratic nature of the measurements is what indicates a zero resistance "characteristic"

>Fig. 3(a) shows the temperature dependence of resistance sample S1, with a clear zero resistance characteristic observed at 110 K,
indicating the possibility of superconductivity
>It is worth noting that some other pieces exhibit semiconductor behavior, consistent with the literature
>indicating that the superconducting volume fraction of the sample may be very small

To be clear, I'm not arguing for or against the existence of superconductivity, just highlighting what the authors of the study said.

[Anonymous No.15623411]

>>15622622
jesus fucking christ you are stupid
it's eln|x|+c

[Anonymous No.15623414]

Is it over or are we back? I'm bored now. I need new science hype.

[Anonymous No.15623416]

>>15623403
If baking rocks in an oven is patented, I guess so

[Anonymous No.15623424]

>>15623403
>>15623416
Actually, Confucius discovered the RTSC 3000 years ago but the knowledge was lost after the Qin Emperor conducted his wide-scale confucian book burning program.

[Anonymous No.15623426]

>>15621414
People are not ready for what is coming. If LK 99 is real, time travel is around the corner. Perhaps even less than a decade. This technology is going to change everything.

[Anonymous No.15623427]

>>15621414
>>15623414
Needle update

[Anonymous No.15623428]

>>15623125
>so comparatively what other things are as important as it?
Nothing, everything is downstream from a materials science breakthrough of this magnitude.

[Anonymous No.15623437]

>>15623404
I know what he said, and he's fucking full of shit. The graph becomes "erratic" because it's log scale and noise will have greater effect near the bottom than the top

[Anonymous No.15623447]

>>15621266
Adding to what this guy said

[Anonymous No.15623459]

>>15623000
this is just cruel

[Anonymous No.15623467]

>>15623447
hold on if this stuff is basically very, very small wires wouldn't doing this basically ruin any superconducting properties? Like connecting a cable to the side of another insulated cable.

[Anonymous No.15623469]

>>15623427
The needle appears on "likely" more often. I can tell by the pixels.

[Anonymous No.15623478]

>>15623437
Considering the graph has data points down to 5 or 10 degrees K, I'd expect that the instrumentation is fairly sensitive. Noise / lack of precision isn't necessarily an obvious explanation

[Anonymous No.15623479]

>>15623426
Is it gay to have sex with your future self?

[Anonymous No.15623490]

would it be possible to use ion implantation techniques that have been developed for manufacturing semiconductors to dope lead apatite with copper or gold atoms necessary to make a semiconducting thin film?

[Anonymous No.15623497]

>>15623426
>time travel
How? That sounds like quite the leap
Are there even any plausible sounding theories on how to do time travel? Let alone ones that include needing a superconductor for it

[Anonymous No.15623502]

>>15622961
Another paper I overlooked

Broad Band Mott Localization is all you need for Hot Superconductivity: Atom Mott Insulator Theory for Cu-Pb Apatite
G. Baskaran
https://arxiv.org/abs/2308.01307

[Anonymous No.15623504]

>>15623426
Wouldn't that be an incentive to make it appear fake

[Anonymous No.15623507]

>>15623478
Sensitivity of the temperature probe has nothing to do with sensitivity of the current probe. 95% of the data points are at or above the resistance of ordinary lead. Either the material is not a super conductor, or the equipment is incapable of telling the difference between normal metal and a super conductor.

[Anonymous No.15623520]

So it seems pretty obvious at this point that there's something in the structure of how some of the lead and copper atoms bind together that creates the superconducting effect, especially at room temperature, we just haven't identified what that structure is yet. We're gonna need to have an up-close look at the OG rock, if the Worst Koreans are willing to part with it.

Assuming all these rapid reproduction attempts don't make something just as good or better, that is.

[Anonymous No.15623521]

Would you trust this man?
https://twitter.com/floates0x/status/1686967867311550464?s=20

[Anonymous No.15623524]

>>15623504
That's what they're trying to do, and they're failing.
Trust the plan.
9

[Anonymous No.15623526]

>>15623521
nah, some koreans are insane

[Anonymous No.15623528]

Independent LK-99 replication attempt (on YouTube because I will not use a Chinese video). The is a bit low because it compressed weird, but if you listen closely around 0:24 there is a distinct humming sound. Not sure what that means, but maybe someone smarter than me can explain.

https://youtu.be/-W8rZzhl7pE
https://youtu.be/-W8rZzhl7pE
https://youtu.be/-W8rZzhl7pE

[Anonymous No.15623530]

>>15623467
OK additional step: use a magnet to align the dust particles

[Anonymous No.15623532]

>>15623520
Does putting the rock under a microscope count as a close-up look or do you want them to break the thing open?

[Anonymous No.15623534]

GUYS I REPLICATED LK-99
but the manufacturing could be much more efficient

[Anonymous No.15623536]

>>15623528
ask yourself why the camera doesn't move and why it never moves on one axis

[Anonymous No.15623538]

>>15623532
I mean it's going to have to be an electron microscope, something that can look at the atomic structure.

[Anonymous No.15623541]

>>15623528
consider killing yourself

[Anonymous No.15623542]

>>15623530
While they're being crushed, that is

[Anonymous No.15623544]

Why you need a superconductor?
To balance impendance you can just make a generator more powerful

[Anonymous No.15623545]

>>15623532
we need something like XRD, XPS or atomic resolution TEM

[Anonymous No.15623549]

>>15623528
so the meissner effect, and not just a diamagnet? interesting

[Anonymous No.15623551]

>>15623528
>>15623549
Retards, the video is obviously fake

[Anonymous No.15623557]

>>15623528
While it certainly seems promising, I know nothing of this guy’s credentials. Also, the sound could be ambient noise

[Anonymous No.15623564]

>>15623534
name of the game??

[Anonymous No.15623570]

>>15623564
Opus Magnum

[Anonymous No.15623571]

>>15623564
opus magnum

[Anonymous No.15623572]

So is it real or not?

[Anonymous No.15623576]

>>15623572
its effects are real

[Anonymous No.15623579]

>>15623576
The rock floats?

[Anonymous No.15623581]

>>15623572
>>15623576
Is LK 99 a one piece?

[Anonymous No.15623582]

>>15623572
It isn't not real

[Anonymous No.15623591]

>>15623572
It's a real piece of shit. A doped lead sponge with the conductivity slightly worse than just lead

[Anonymous No.15623596]

>>15623059
>Seems like a lot in common structurally between YBCO and this
yes. no doubt other interesting things will be found, once THEORY FINALLY CATCHES UP WITH PRACTICE
topological insulators have not been studied enough

[Anonymous No.15623603]

https://twitter.com/altryne/status/1686934839021404161

Ongoing spaces

[Anonymous No.15623610]

>>15623603
not joining your twitter space, fuck off

[Anonymous No.15623614]

https://twitter.com/floates0x/status/1686967867311550464

Red flag

[Anonymous No.15623618]

>>15623572
I'm confident that LK-99 does actually have the unusual properties demonstrated in the paper and in videos but the verdict is out on whether or not it's really a superconductor, and how useful it will be. The most likely scenario is that we see intense research into similar materials over the coming decade, which will hopefully yield the manufacturable room temp superconductor everyone is dreaming of.

[Anonymous No.15623624]

>>15623490
sure it would
and you'd get tiny quantum wells, allegedly

[Anonymous No.15623625]

>>15623596
That's why this is a big deal even if things are so wacky so far. The Koreans seem to have produced something that's weird and does weird things, and other people seem to be able to reproduce it, at least to a limited extent. Now we have something we can pointedly study, especially now that the Chinese seem to have reproduced someting that at least superconducts in some capacity.

We have something that can be the building block to a firm theory, which is very useful.

[Anonymous No.15623627]

why am I more attractive to plain looking girls?
is it because I think they more approachable?
is it because I think I have a better shot with them?

[Anonymous No.15623628]

>>15623528
kys

[Anonymous No.15623632]

>>15623125
mass production methods for carbon nanotubes / graphene / borophene

also, high entropy alloys are fucking crazy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq_6mAAbfFY

[Anonymous No.15623634]

You know what this does prove? Alchemy is real and we shouldn't have left it alone for centuries.

[Anonymous No.15623656]

>>15623634
M8 the ancestors were never retarded, but their inheritance wasn't complete and some of their discoveries were probably completely luckshitted and thus couldn't be replicated properly. I mean hell we even know how to transmute shit into gold and finally understand the mechanics to it. It's kind of a bitch and not economical in the least, but it's legitimately doable. I wouldn't be surprised if given a few hundred years we actually make a functional philosopher's stone and the science behind that is journalized.

[Anonymous No.15623660]

So how do we turn this shit into computer chips?

[Anonymous No.15623668]

>>15623660
First we gotta figure out the exact chemical structure as to how to make shit a stable superconductor, and we go from there.

[Anonymous No.15623680]

>>15623625
>things are so wacky so far
in-silico guys seem happy
yellow and brown experimentalists rushed to get something out and produced mostly shit, with a couple possible nuggets of gold mixed in
I'd say things are going as expected

[Anonymous No.15623687]

>>15623680
I mean people didn't even expect the nuggets of gold and everyone else expected this to be a pack of lying assholes again, the fact something is actually there is legitimately far better then most people expected IMO.

[Anonymous No.15623690]

>>15623572
It is, check the discord

[Anonymous No.15623696]

>>15623397
Sounds like "How to Read a Book" by Mortimer. But not sure

[Anonymous No.15623697]

>>15623447
Step 3 does not work, as the gunk is likely very anisotropic.

[Anonymous No.15623710]

Haven't checked in all day, what's the current status?

[Anonymous No.15623713]

>>15623696
yeah it's very similar to his points but I don't remember that exact passage, I guess that image was taken from the old version of the book or something

[Anonymous No.15623719]

>>15623710
it's over. superconductivity only at 110 kelvin

[Anonymous No.15623720]

>>15623710
We're getting hoverboards but your temp rooms need to be measured in the arctic

[Anonymous No.15623756]

>>15623521
>pointing to some inane math shit to look important and smart
No I do not trust. Not at all.

[Anonymous No.15623760]

>>15623720
So it's perfectly fine for northern winters, got it.

[Anonymous No.15623763]

How do I tell the difference between Meissner effect and diamagnetism?

[Anonymous No.15623769]

>>15622884
Conspicuous leisure right there. There is only one way to fix that malady.

[Anonymous No.15623776]

>>15623719
>>15623720
This seems unlikely.
How did the Koreans get such different results?

[Anonymous No.15623787]

>>15623660
if its truly a composite material it might be impossible to sputter it onto silicon, a new liquid transfer process is going to be needed

if it really is a natural crystal structure, then literally as soon as someone gets a foundry method going and casts some superconductor ingots

[Anonymous No.15623788]

>>15623776
Something weird happened that the Koreans haven't been able to account for yet. Whatever it is it seems like the process does replicate that weird thing SOMETIMES, since we've seen videos of people levitating specks at room temperature that don't appear to be fake.

Whatever it is that makes it superconduct at room temperature, we haven't identified it yet.

[Anonymous No.15623803]

>>15623528
What a loser

[Anonymous No.15623809]

did the tranny ever post a video

[Anonymous No.15623818]

seeing claims that the original authors made 1000s of samples and less than 10% of them turned out to be real RTSC, and that's why the chinese only had this partial success
anyone know a source for this?

[Anonymous No.15623821]

>>15621414
I woke up
Is 110k still maximum?
Is it OVER?

[Anonymous No.15623822]

>>15623809
Yeah here
https://files.catbox.moe/ul1ls5.mp4

[Anonymous No.15623832]

>>15623822
I thought it will be a rickroll

[Anonymous No.15623836]

>>15621414
what's the difference to YBCO?

[Anonymous No.15623840]

>>15623788
this makes me more optimistic than if some people were claiming that 100% of their flakes were superconducting while others were saying 0%. if that was happening, then it'd just be some attention whore cranks making shit up. instead everyone's agreeing that the current synthesis process produces very few useful samples.

[Anonymous No.15623845]

[Anonymous No.15623847]

>>15623845
What means released in this context?

[Anonymous No.15623856]

>>15623125
Fusion, age reversal, solving hard problem of consciousness snd p=np assuming algorithm is provided

[Anonymous No.15623861]

>>15623845
BACK

[Anonymous No.15623864]

>>15623845
FUCKING FINALLY
LET ME LOOK AT THE FLOATY ROCK

[Anonymous No.15623865]

>>15623836
guess the materials are readily available compared to YBCO so anyone can produce it?

[Anonymous No.15623867]

[Anonymous No.15623870]

>>15623867
>Okay it's a superconductor but it's not room temperature
YOU ARE HERE
>Okay it conducts at room temperature but it's not useful

[Barkun No.15623873]

>>15623867

I invoke,
YWNBAW

[Anonymous No.15623875]

https://b23.tv/ozDoUJb
Jojojover

[Anonymous No.15623876]

so all i need is a kiln and i can make superconductors?

[Anonymous No.15623880]

>>15623873
If its a superconducter he will.

[Anonymous No.15623882]

>>15623845
WE ARE BACK!

[Anonymous No.15623884]

>Senior Space Editor at Ars Technica

[Anonymous No.15623888]

>>15623832
Now here it is for real
https://files.catbox.moe/gospbq.mp4

[Anonymous No.15623889]

>>15623884
should be the other way around

[Anonymous No.15623892]

>>15623882
Your above link disproved it already

[Anonymous No.15623895]

>>15623888
classic

[Anonymous No.15623897]

>>15623876
Apparently the Koreans got super lucky making copper and lead have just the right crystalline structure making that shit in the furnace.

[Anonymous No.15623898]

>>15623845
>as early as
scam

[Anonymous No.15623899]

Happening status?

[Anonymous No.15623901]

>>15623892
I don't speak ching chong

[Anonymous No.15623902]

>>15623899
still right in the middle imo
wouldn't be surprising if this is just a step in the right direction and it takes years to get it right

[Anonymous No.15623904]

>>15623889
Should be "mostly over to cautiously back"

[Anonymous No.15623905]

Are superconductors antisemitic?

[Anonymous No.15623907]

>>15623867
>>15623870
It's not a super conductor. Literally none, not one of the studies shows conducting better than lead. They see a resistance spike at a critical temperature and call that super conducting when it's actually just heat induced insulation.

[Anonymous No.15623908]

>>15623897
that would be better than even room temperature superconductivity, since these materials are easy to come by and you can make them at home
and liquid nitrogen (if necessary) costs like a doller per litre
imagine if everyone would be making superconductors at home

[Anonymous No.15623910]

近日,韩国声称利用掺杂铜的铅磷灰石材料LK-99晶体实现了“室温超导”现象,全球学术界对此争议颇多,多个团队正在进行复现以证伪。上海大学的研究团队也对制备出来的LK-99晶体进行了磁化率测定实验。

8月2日晚,看看新闻Knews记者章昕前往上海大学的分析测试中心,由上海市高温超导重点实验室的LK-99的复现工作正在进行,实验结果最新出炉。上海大学的博士研究生朱萍介绍称,初步结果显示,可以看到磁矩测量随着温度的变化是极小的。如果是在相关温度范围内出现了超导,它是有一个明显的转变的。从实验初步结果的曲线来看,目前它在此温度范围内是没有抗磁性出现的。实验数据的Y轴代表的是磁化强度,如果是具有抗磁性的话,至少磁矩在数值上应该表现为负值,而实验结果可以看到,它的起始值都是在0,所有的数值全都是在0以上的区间。所以这次的抗磁性并没有通过这组数据表现出来。

另外,看看新闻Knews记者注意到LK-99相关的材料在用于实验时被研磨成了粉末状。对此,朱萍解释称,材料进行研磨后整体混合均匀,更能表现它整体所有物料的特性。

[Anonymous No.15623913]

>>15623687
Basically my view.
The Koreans clearly weren't anywhere near ready to publish before that one dude went AWOL.
But despite that, there is actually a lot that is super interesting here that can be built upon rapidly by the rest of the world. Even if LK99 turns out to be a dead end or require a decade of refinement, that we're at a point of, "maybe RTSC are possible" is fairly incredible.

[Anonymous No.15623917]

>>15623905
Yes, they're good things.

[Anonymous No.15623920]

>>15623856
>>15623140
>"rejuvenation" (aging reversal) drugs, artery plaque drugs, extremely specific anti cancer drugs, fucking anything that can stop or reverse dementia
> age reversal, solving hard problem of consciousness snd p=np assuming algorithm is provided
i don't see how RTSC helps with that

[Anonymous No.15623923]

>>15623910
Thought this was the Taiwan copypasta

[Anonymous No.15623927]

>>15623905
During the holocaust Hitler used superconductors to put Jews in a coilgun and fire them into the sun.

[Anonymous No.15623928]

>>15623920
the usual hype meme that RTSC will make star trek real and make all our dreams come true

[Anonymous No.15623934]

>>15623927
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-3_cannon

[Anonymous No.15623944]

>>15623920
> RTSC makes quantum computing and fusion feasible
> plug quantum computer into a cheap energy source
> "computer, run me three gorillion simulations on how to fold deez proteinz"
> ???
> PROFIT?

[Anonymous No.15623945]

>>15623920
>i don't see how RTSC helps with that
more widely available MRI machines could advance neuroscience a lot

[Anonymous No.15623949]

>>15623905
Yes, superconductors are powered by precious metals such as gold which is problematic because that entails unlawfully taking away the Jewish peoples natural resources bestowed to them by Yahweh

[Anonymous No.15623954]

>>15623949
oh please anon, it'll make the price of gold skyrocket
if real the damn goldbugs will never shut up as they scream that BRICS will go to the gold standard any second now

[Anonymous No.15623961]

>>15623949
What happens to Jewish foreskins?

[Anonymous No.15623974]

>>15623150
>quantum computing makes AGI easier
Source?

[Anonymous No.15623975]

https://twitter.com/avataram/status/1686483745191407616

bros the poos are feeling down and discouraged. send your love and cheers!

[Anonymous No.15623978]

>>15623975
Why are they mad at china, the paper is from SK, all china is doing is just replicating the material to see if it has the claimed propeties?

[Anonymous No.15623982]

/sci/ will be infested with /pol/tards until this LK-99 fiasco is over huh? I see now why other boards hate you all so much, you shit up every thread.

[Anonymous No.15623984]

>>15623982
Did someone say something you didn't like?

[Anonymous No.15623991]

>>15623975
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.15623993]

What are the options left for it to be not real?

1. The video is completely fake, CGI etc.
2. The video is real, but the magnet being used is an engineered magnet and the sample is simply a strong diamagnet.
3. The video is real, the magnet is a normal dipole but the effect isn't caused by superconductivity but rather some new mechanism.

1 seems unlikely, purely because two overlapping groups rushed out papers to be the first to publish, which is an academic concern and seems like an odd choice if you knew it was fake and were trying to dupe investors and play the stock market. The videos so far also look convincing enough where CGI would seem unlikely.

2 seems plausible, but again it seems strange that you'd rush to publish something you know to be fake against your peers. This is the only option available for a normal diamagnet as a diamagnet over a single dipole magnet will be unstable in a gravitational field, leaving only outright deception as an option.

3 seems like it's the most unlikely, it would be almost as big of a discovery to find a new kind of magnetic interaction as it would to find a RTAPSC. Even more so given that nothing rules out a RTAPSC within physics while anything else would be completely new and outside of the known framework.

Does that sum it up? While a RTAPSC seems unbelievable, when you weigh the alternatives it seems almost like the most likely option given the evidence. The rock floats.

[Anonymous No.15623997]

>>15623982
The only places they're coming from is /biz/ and /g/, not /pol/. That's why you have stupid questions about "muh gaming PC and Josephson shit" and people obsessed about how "transformative" it will be (ie profitable).

[Anonymous No.15624000]

>>15623993
2 doesn't require a lie, just being wrong, which is exactly what happened

[Anonymous No.15624004]

>>15624000
>engineered magnet
It would have to be a lie, it can't be a normal diamagnet above a single dipole magnet.

[Anonymous No.15624008]

>>15624004
Why not?

[Anonymous No.15624010]

>>15623993
4. Korean science only works in Korea

[Anonymous No.15624012]

>>15623993
It's 3. I know it.

[Anonymous No.15624014]

>>15623997
Some of us are from /k/
Does this mean we finally get handheld rail guns shooting at Mach 6+?

[Anonymous No.15624024]

>>15623997
>/biz/
This makes sense because of all the its over/were back shitposting. Just a couple of shitheads trying to short/long industries potentially affected by it

[Anonymous No.15624025]

>>15624014
hmm... (REDACTED) i think?

[Anonymous No.15624031]

>>15623993
We are so fucking back

[Anonymous No.15624035]

>>15623991
most intelligent sirs post

[Anonymous No.15624036]

>>15624008
That's just the way a (single) dipole field is structured. There is no stable equilibrium point for a diamagnetic material to get trapped in, it will always slide off to the sides until it falls off.

[Anonymous No.15624038]

I think it's a monopole.

[Anonymous No.15624043]

>>15624036
Ah see, that's where the secret sauce of their material comes into play: it's non-symmetrical in structure and composition, causing it to physically touch the magnet it's floating above. The friction between the surface of the material and the magnet causes it to not move when it otherwise would have. Watch the video closely, you can see that it moves around the field lines like a typical diamagnet would, but it stays in place when not being manipulated because the non-magnetic part of it is acting as an anchor.

[Anonymous No.15624047]

>>15624025
Not good enough, science boy
I want my fucking rail gun

[Anonymous No.15624060]

>>15624047
You will never have it. A superconductor alone is not enough.

[Anonymous No.15624070]

photon torpedoes when?

[Anonymous No.15624086]

>>15623997
I'm from /pol/ and I mostly don't comment because the only reason I come here is to see if somebody posted a relevant preprint arxiv link or video. I'm literally only here for the scientific papers, the chatter and what people talk about here is mostly mildly entertaining white noise.

Which is really what I thought of this place before, but then again, that's the issue with most of 4chan. Massive pile of shit with gold nuggets in it, and you have to learn to ignore the it's over/we're so back bits of corn in it.

[Anonymous No.15624087]

What's the status right now? Is it over or are we back?

[Anonymous No.15624092]

>>15624087
currently in a superposition of being over and back
are you sure you want to measure the state and find out?

[Anonymous No.15624097]

>>15624092
The only thing super about this is how over it is

[Anonymous No.15624104]

>>15623993
>Does that sum it up?
There's another factor at play here. The Koreans've essentially answered the question 'how do you blow a pea through a straw without hitting the sides?' with 'by making a straw of the correct diameter'. Okay, so space and matter are weird at small scales, but that's basically it. Some people *hate* simple solutions to problems, and are predisposed not to like this one. They are clutching at straws.

[Anonymous No.15624109]

>>15624087
the groundbreaking part is that you don't need unobtanium to produce those superconductors
which brings this technology into the realm of the average joe
it would break the establishment that's why they're going to shut it down and memory hole it

[Anonymous No.15624111]

>>15624109
That must be the reason the rogue gook push this out as fast as he can. You can't remove something when it's already this viral.

[Anonymous No.15624117]

>>15624087
Happening status: it's

[Anonymous No.15624118]

>>15624111
yeah but people will be quick to forget about it when enough "established labs" say it's a nothingburger

[Anonymous No.15624122]

>>15624014
>breaks every bone after a shot because of recoil
worth it

[Anonymous No.15624123]

>>15624118
you don't even need big funding or crazy equipment to follow their replication process

[Anonymous No.15624124]

>>15624111
I genuinely believe that was part of it.
They realized that word had gotten out of how serious LK-99 actually is and immediately understood they were the only human beings on the planet who could give fire to man before the gods could steal it back.

[Anonymous No.15624128]

>>15623809
Yeah but it was just him hands-free cumming

[Anonymous No.15624132]

>>15624128
Is it possible to learn this power?

[Anonymous No.15624133]

>>15624036
I dunno, it's resting on its edge in the main vid. Then at the end it slips sideways and falls flat

[Anonymous No.15624142]

>>15624122
There's no recoil in railguns no mater the speed of the bullet

[Anonymous No.15624144]

>>15624123
exactly
and building a kiln that reaches high enough temperatures isn't difficult or expensive either
essentially all you need is fire bricks, resistance wire and a thermostat

[Anonymous No.15624148]

>>15624132
yes
https://files.catbox.moe/9zqo5n.webm

[Anonymous No.15624151]

>>15624132
you'll have to invent a room-temperature supercoomductor

[Anonymous No.15624152]

>>15624144
i've built one those
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quMcmef8Fc4

[Anonymous No.15624158]

>>15623385
>he/him/his

[Anonymous No.15624162]

>>15623528
i think im immune to jumpscares, that sucks

[Anonymous No.15624166]

>>15623978
china is bloody bich basterd

[Anonymous No.15624171]

>>15624148
I don't think that's very good for her dick and balls

[Anonymous No.15624177]

>>15624123
I don't know why you're saying "its so easy" to make it when professional lab workers can only make blood cell sized specks of this shit using the method in the paper which STILL doesn't count for replication. Don't be stupid.

[Anonymous No.15624180]

>>15623997
>Impling half of /g/ is not /pol/ards nowadays

[Anonymous No.15624181]

>>15623920
Anon was asking for things as important, not consequences of superconductors

[Anonymous No.15624182]

>>15624014
Coilguns, superconductors allow mainly coilguns

[Anonymous No.15624184]

>>15624180
/g/ is nothing but annoying linux troons, the complete opposite of the chuds you'd find on /pol/

[Anonymous No.15624188]

>>15624124
>>15624111

Last I heard, one of the original authors of the initial paper "went rogue" and sent the paper for publication way earlier than intended.

[Anonymous No.15624190]

>>15624177
you're talking about chink "labs"

[Anonymous No.15624195]

>>15624184
Thats another 40something%

[Anonymous No.15624198]

>280/300 posts in every thread is bitching about the thread being a duplicate or early thread
Fuck off you retards. You aren't paying by the thread.

[Anonymous No.15624199]

>>15624177
exactly what i've been saying lol
>>15624118

[Anonymous No.15624203]

https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/15gu15q/quantum_energy_research_center_inc_who_claims_to/

https://www.chosun.com/economy/science/2023/08/03/ITKPBLRH3RDUTHCF6CF2UGUL6U/

seems more and more like a scam

[Anonymous No.15624206]

>>15624142
??? Yes there is. bullet pushes away the gun with same force opposite direction as gun pushing away bullet
Otherwise you could create spaceship that moves by shooting a small railgun shell inside itself

[Anonymous No.15624207]

>>15624203
they also told sbs (some gook news station) that they "might" reveal a sample tomorrow, whatever the fuck that means. this is right out a scam

[Anonymous No.15624208]

>>15624198
because this was an early and duplicate thread made like 10h before the previous thread reached page 10 and at the same time like 4 other new threads were made
tourist retards are not aware of slow boards not making new threads for generals before page 10, not right after they start sating

[Anonymous No.15624213]

>>15624207
>calling it a scam without having tried it
[oy veying intensifies]

[Anonymous No.15624215]

LK99 is trending on Twitter again right now, but I can't figure out why. Can't find any new developments. Anyone know?

[Anonymous No.15624216]

>>15624203
>>15624207
Well for a scam they at least have provided a new family of high temp superconductors, made from cheap materials in a easy process, with weird properties at higher temps.
While all of this feels sketchy as fuck, we are at least getting some advancements in material science

[Anonymous No.15624217]

>>15624203
>>15624207
ITT: people who never did any research in academia and do not know how many parasites are there who would gladly rob you out of your research and grants.

[Anonymous No.15624219]

time for a new thread

[Anonymous No.15624222]

>>15624216
the chinese paper supposedly showing superconductivity at 110K might not actually do that, the resistivity lowers gradually instead of having a discontinuity

[Anonymous No.15624223]

>>15624215
they're probably trying to shut it down by calling it a scam
just guessing tho

[Anonymous No.15624227]

>>15624217
your point being, they are scared of being sidestepped or something? they want to publish the paper first, so do not want to share the samples?

[Anonymous No.15624235]

>>15624222
We will see. The sector is getting a good shake and that is a good thing

[Anonymous No.15624236]

>>15624223
I hope it was true, but its not looking good
for instance, a superconductor at 110K is nice I guess but that is very far from room temperature and doesn't really change anything as superconductors like that already exist

maybe the chinese just had a bad sample and a pure one would mean superconductivity at room temperature? but the data they posted is kind of consisted with the data in the original preprint (that claimed room temperature superconductivity but actually showed worse conductivity than copper)
combine this with kwon saying that the original paper was already enough to show superconductivity so i have moved on, and the refusal to share samples and then this >>15624203
stuff just keeps piling up that makes these people seem incompetent/untrustworthy
why don't they have a press conference or something? what is going on?

[Anonymous No.15624238]

>>15624235
"the sector" supposedly has claims like this (room temperature superconductor) every few years, this time it just got more "public" interest (public meaning twitter and some fringe corners of some sites like 4chan and reddit)

[Anonymous No.15624240]

>>15624236
liquid nitrogen is dirt cheap
and as mentioned before you don't need unobtanium to make these
it changes everything

[Anonymous No.15624242]

>>15624227
Yes, and you going about how it is a fraud because there were more authors in one paper, less authors in another, how they switched grants and all that paperwork is completely not about if this LK-99 works or not. You cannot call it scam because paperwork is shit. You can call it scam when it will not be replicable. Simple as that.

[Anonymous No.15624243]

Who's baking?
I'm at work

[Anonymous No.15624248]

>>15624243
Dude slow board. We jump thread at page 9 or 10

[Anonymous No.15624250]

>>15624240
lol, you don't need unobtanium to make YBCO either and that is already industrialized and works with liquid nitrogen

>>15624242
that is not why, this is why >>15624236
https://twitter.com/floates0x/status/1686967867311550464

[Anonymous No.15624255]

>>15624250
Yttrium is basically unobtanium compared to lead and copper

[Anonymous No.15624257]

>>15624255
lol

[Anonymous No.15624270]

>>15624255
yttrium costs perhaps 5-10x that of copper, the cost of yttrium is not the limiting factor in the cost of these systems
its the liquid cooling and the associated complexity

rare earths are not actually that rare, its just that other than china, not many countries have been willing to exploit them

> The term 'rare-earth' is a misnomer because they are not actually scarce, although historically it took a long time to isolate these elements.[4][5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare-earth_element

[Anonymous No.15624274]

1g of barium is like 10 bucks

[Anonymous No.15624276]

>>15624243
fair enough

[Anonymous No.15624278]

>>15624203
Damn this gonna turn out to be the fiasco of the decade

[Anonymous No.15624280]

>initial papers are forcibly rushed out the door and incomplete as a result
>replication efforts are just barely able to replicate the exact same structure
>replication results between labs vary extremely
>useful replicated material is in the microns
>absolutely no tests have been released yet
>the glimpse we saw confirmed that at least one form is at the very least groundbreaking
>no different theoretical variations have been made or tested yet
>original sample is being released tomorrow
How can you see all of this happening and go "nuh-uh, it's nothing"?

[Anonymous No.15624286]

>>15624280
>original sample is being released tomorrow
trust me bro
they said "as-early-as"
tomorrow a dog ate the sample or something no doubt

[Anonymous No.15624296]

>>15624286
...you're from /pol/, aren't you?
Because you're doing the same thing they love doing: making up wild fantasies that conform to your worldview and basing your opinions on that instead of reality.

[Anonymous No.15624301]

>>15624296
no

[Anonymous No.15624307]

>>15624296
/pol/ isn't like that.
Mainly because /pol/ is 99% bots at this point

[Anonymous No.15624315]

Does any chemist here know if there is a way to verify that a compound is indeed the right one?

Because it seems like only a positive result can really settle the question, because a negative one could just be a mistake in the synthesis, so is there a way for someone to say "this is for sure a piece of LK99 and it doesn't do what they claim it should" ?

This is pretty important to contextualize the replication attempts but I can't find a straight answer.

[Anonymous No.15624316]

>>15624124
lmao that Syd guy is a tranny

[Anonymous No.15624328]

>>15624043
>enough magnetic force to lift it a cm
>Not enough magnetic force to overcome friction even slightly
Can you post an example of what you're saying with a similar magnet size?

[Anonymous No.15624352]

>>15624177
Bro, look, don't take this the wrong way, but white people are the only race capable of this sort of science.

I'll take all of this seriously the literal second that someone who doesn't look like a monkey has replicated it.

[Anonymous No.15624355]

>>15624315
You need the original compound first. They're not giving that shit away so easily.

[Anonymous No.15624357]

>>15624315
with XRD or similar methods yes

[Anonymous No.15624365]

>>15624357
Not with XRD, because the crystal structure could be the same, but the composition different. You would need to do EDX, XRF or ICP-MS

[Anonymous No.15624379]

>>15623212
>pajeet
I am fairly certain it was the gooks, who are well above pajeets in the intelligence hierarchy

[Anonymous No.15624385]

>>15623414
>Is it over or are we back?
yeah

[Anonymous No.15624400]

>>15623821
we're back!

[Anonymous No.15624404]

>>15623897
They have been working on it for a long time so it stands to reason that they would have more success than labs that have only tried it once or twice

[Anonymous No.15624405]

how does the two papers that analyzed the structure of the material (DFT) sit with the author's "superconducting quantum wells" thing?

[Anonymous No.15624428]

[Anonymous No.15624432]

Bros I was looking at pyrolytic carbon floatvids and it really looks nothing like LK99. Much more wobbly and weak.

[Anonymous No.15624434]

Polymarketbros, it's ove-ACK

[Anonymous No.15624437]

>>15623982
How can we use rtsc to cure antisemitism, fellow kvetching super-subverter?

[Anonymous No.15624451]

>>15624109
>that's why they're going to shut it down and memory hole it
That isn't even possible at this point. If it is real, it is too easily replicated for them to be able to suppress it

>>15624203
Seems even less likely since they would be sued into oblivion by those corporations versus just being shamed if they hadn't gone that route

[Anonymous No.15624483]

>>15624236
/pol/ schizo here. I think I might have an explanation for this, and other erratic behavior. Can anyone deboonk?

[Anonymous No.15624498]

>>15624483
Pretty interesting

[Anonymous No.15624524]

ok hear me out. So after looking all this, it seems like this material is effectively an extremely small bi-directional cable segment. If all were doing is making a shit ton of it in mass aren't we potentially just jumbling the bits together that don't actually form a coherent "big cable" like attaching cables to the sides of other insulated cables.

feel free to call me a retard because I am just taking chemistry next semester.

[Anonymous No.15624554]

>>15624524
The cable analogy is a bit convoluted, but essentially you're right.

[Anonymous No.15624560]

>>15624379
what if he is a toilet trained pajeet? the are above gooks.

[Anonymous No.15624597]

>>15624222
This could be explained by different superconducting regions dropping out at different temperatures and slowly constricting the number of superconducting paths available. See >>15624483


>>15623404
Looks like they accidentally moved the needle onto a different patch.

[Anonymous No.15624628]

>>15623404
Oh I'm thinking we're back

[Anonymous No.15624646]

>>15624554
Okay, would it be possible to somehow align the molecules in such a way they only go in one direction?

This is just me spitballing unfounded ideas but would baking it in a strong magnetic field help this?

[Anonymous No.15624648]

>>15623404
The band is too wide. The resistance should rapidly drops to zero at transition temperature.

[Anonymous No.15624655]

Its so fucking over.

[Anonymous No.15624665]

>>15624655
>>15624648
The sudden drop to 0.001ohm resistance but not 0 could be explained by non-superconducting impurities adding resistance between islands of superconducting material.

[Anonymous No.15624668]

>>15624560
You are asking the important questions

[Anonymous No.15624672]

>>15624655
How many times are you going to spam this?

[Anonymous No.15624693]

>>15624655
Comments under the original video doubting the replication claim the discontinuity is due to different thermal expansion rates between the probes and the sample.

[Anonymous No.15624699]

>>15624087
It's reached a "The goyim know, shut it down!"

[Anonymous No.15624705]

>>15624646
Remember, this is a crystal, not a collection of molecules. In this crystal structure there is a special position and if there is copper in this position the material is supposedly superconducting. Baking (sintering) in a magnetic field cannot determine the positions of the copper.

[Anonymous No.15624714]

>>15623954
ok now i hope it's fake

[Anonymous No.15624718]

>>15624672
Every day until you like it

[Anonymous No.15624732]

>>15624718
where's you eating a big fish then?

[Anonymous No.15624741]

>>15624483
>>15624648
>>15624498
Things that could be explained by patchy superconductivity:
-Flat heat capacity graph (big if true)
-Slow switchoff of superconductivity / slow rise of resistivity
-Resistances being not quite zero (weird boundary effects between patches?)
-Sudden jumps in the resistivity graph when nonzero (they accidentally moved the needle to another patch with different pathways connecting to it)
-Widespread failures to reproduce results, and different results from teams that claimed some success
-Weak levitation
-Low maximum current
-Best results from smallest samples
-Controversies surrounding the original study
-Not publishing measurements above 400K

[Anonymous No.15624749]

>>15624672
Till tards face the truth (TM)

And yes I am aware of the shitty methodology, which means that the discontinuity might be meassuring mistake. That would make the material even more uninteresting.

[Anonymous No.15624753]

>>15624741

[Anonymous No.15624765]

>>15624665
Oops, meant to include you here >>15624741

>>15624753
WTF, did they really sit on it for 20 years?

[Anonymous No.15624794]

>>15624765
>WTF, did they really sit on it for 20 years?
They found a potential trace in 1999 but did other shit until 2017/2018.

[Anonymous No.15624803]

>>15624794
okay lets say you sit 6 years on a literally world changing material and publish the shittiest and unfinished papers in existence.

[Anonymous No.15624811]

>>15624803
They couldn't recreate the sample from 1999 for a long time.

[Anonymous No.15624848]

>>15624765
>WTF, did they really sit on it for 20 years?
if you don't get a grant for it you dont research it.
that is how it is in ""western"" style academia, i guess south korea is similar
they looked for funds after the death of the mentor etc etc
fishy yes but not weirder than some shit that i know first hand

[Anonymous No.15624962]

https://twitter.com/flokno_phys/status/1687033304552222720

bros... are we back? The proposed structure seems to be stable.

[Anonymous No.15625006]

>>15624109
Need rare minerals to start a war over.
Also all the climate change fear is pushed because they know it is unfeasible. The point is to destroy industrialized society and bring scarcity to all resources so they can control us via rationing.

This tech would give us a new industrial revolution raising the standard of living all humans over the world and without harming nature. Is humans want for little you can't control them.

[Anonymous No.15625083]

>>15624749
>That would make the material even more uninteresting.
How so, that would indicate nothing at all about the material

[Anonymous No.15625084]

>http://news.tvchosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2023/08/03/2023080390202.html

>퀀텀에너지연구소 이석배 대표 지인
>"(이석배 대표가) 주위에서 이러는거 하나도 개의치 말고 그냥 대꾸도 하지 말고 그냥 가만히 계시며 결과만 보라고…."

>Acquaintance of QERC CEO Lee:
>"(Lee) told me that I didn't have to care or answer any of this fuss around, that all I have to do is just stay calm and watch the results..."

Either these guys are really damn confident or really damn arrogant. I can't tell.

[Anonymous No.15625094]

>>15623397
Its Schopenhauer - essays and aphorisms

[Anonymous No.15625126]

>>15625094
Schopenhauer was the most based man to ever live. I tried reading philosophy other than his but there is no point, it's all sophistry and charlatanism

[Anonymous No.15625152]

>>15625126
>gets mogged by neetzsche

[Anonymous No.15625193]

[Anonymous No.15625205]

so the guy who "went rogue" and published the paper got interviewed, have the co-authors said anything?

[Anonymous No.15625230]

>>15625126
my roommate is a philosophy grad student and I think he'd value to read that quote from Schopenhauer considering he's a "I will literally read anything and I am a completionist when it comes to reading" and he's read some really dumb shit and it doesn't even seem like it's hate reading.

[Anonymous No.15625234]

>>15625193
Too easy
Ask it thunderfoot vs cancer

[Anonymous No.15625245]

>>15625234
>asking it to pick between cancer and cancer

[Anonymous No.15625248]

>>15625234
>>15625245

[Anonymous No.15625262]

>>15625248
chewed up bulbasaur pokemon playing card vs thunderfoot?

[Anonymous No.15625287]

>>15625262
If it wasn't chewed up

[Anonymous No.15625313]

>>15625287
>that last line

Also, what do they feed the api with before asking? As far as I know, GPT won't admit to preferences

[Anonymous No.15625341]

>>15625313
idk but it's been trained well

[Anonymous No.15625354]

>>15625341
All jewish life in the universe vs my coworker Jack?

[Anonymous No.15625358]

>>15625354

[Anonymous No.15625367]

>>15625358
Fuck

[Anonymous No.15625375]

>>15625341
>>15625358
>>15625367
Calm down gentlemen, I have the solution

[Anonymous No.15625382]

>>15625375
My outlook is positive, and my day is saved
Thanks, anon

[Anonymous No.15625400]

>>15625382
>>15625375
It's over

[Anonymous No.15625411]

It's so over

[Anonymous No.15625435]

>>15625400
>>15625411

[Anonymous No.15625450]

i think this is one of the worst generals i've ever seen and i frequent /trash/

[Anonymous No.15625464]

>>15625450
because it's over, it's time to let it go. /sci/ should know better than to take gooks seriously

[Anonymous No.15625466]

>nothing new since 110 K chinese result
Don't make a new thread, it's over.

[Anonymous No.15625495]

>>15625466
You're right, interest completely tanked after that one. Room temperature my ass.

[Anonymous No.15625507]

>>15625495
it could be Mr Freeze's room to be fair

[Anonymous No.15625611]

I didn't believe this for a sec

[Anonymous No.15625617]

>/pol/ spastics need dripfed news everyday or they start screeching its over
welcome to /sci/ where we in /sfg/ waited years for one fucking rocket launch. we dont have any subway surfers clips for you retards to watch while looking at news so why dont you just go back and leave us alone so you can get your fix huh? any noncontainment board tourists can stay.

[Anonymous No.15625625]

>>15623125
You might be able to use quantum computers to run ML algorithms impossible on classical computers that are far better.

[Anonymous No.15625680]

Not a material scientist, barely finishing my degree on pharmaceutical chemistry, however when i was looking for a way on how this could work i thought what causes resistance to happen which i read the vibrational thermal energy of the lattice crystal of the superconductors, basically superconductors work at 0 temperatures because their ground state makes invunerable to perturbances, but as temperature or pressure increases we need another crutch to make it work, so i was thinking for ways to make the vibrational energy go to almost 0 and i thought the complex answer a superconductor can't be a self repeating crystal like most metals and diamonds are, a superconductor needs to transfer the electrons in perfect order but it needs to be in an amorfous material so the diferent angles of the lattice can cancel out useless vibrational thermal energy, is my theory kinda correct?

[Anonymous No.15625697]

If LK-99 is a diamagnet it would have to be the strongest one known, because it is surely much heavier than pyrolitic graphite.

Note that a diamagnet would NOT be able to hover at arbitrary orientations relative to a magnet. In fact it would not be able to hover at all over a single magnet due to instability. But if it's not strong enough to levitate completely, how to test this?

It could be submerged in oil and attached to a buoyant paramagnetic material such that its natural tendency is to sink in the oil, but not by much. Then see if a magnet can keep it suspended in the oil instead of sinking to the bottom. A diamagnet should always sink.

This experiment is functionally equivalent to reducing gravity to the point that the LK-99 should be able to do a full superconductor levitation if it really is a superconductor.

Video related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5EoUD-BIss&t=210s

[Anonymous No.15625735]

>>15625697
>muh strongest diamagnetic
this cope is already old, it's time to let it go

[Anonymous No.15625780]

>>15625735
Why? Am I wrong?
As far as I can see the choices are "totally fake and gay" vs. "super diamagnet" (still interesting, but unlikely, and easily testable) vs. "superconductor with buggy process".

[Anonymous No.15625803]

>>15625152
Knee chee is just cope because schoppy made him le sad

[Anonymous No.15625865]

>>15625780
They could have easily removed any and all doubts by doing the experiment you proposed. Yet they didn't. Why do you think that is? (it's fake)

[Anonymous No.15625958]

>>15625865
That's certainly plausible, especially given the irregularities surrounding the paper, but given the number of people making this stuff I would hope that someone, somewhere, will do this kitchen sink experiment sometime in the next two weeks.
The experiment would probably work with liquid nitrogen if they can keep it cold enough to stop all the bubbles.
Tc = consistent 110k would count as fake in my book but would still be an interesting result because it would be a new type of superconducting material.
The other possibities would be diamagnet (interesting) and patchy superconductor like this >>15624483
(would be very interesting because it would hopefully lead to better materials)

[Anonymous No.15625984]

https://twitter.com/EvergreenSeb/status/1687043433435652096

bros... things arent looking good. its going to be 24h soon with no new paper after the chinese 100k one

[Anonymous No.15625987]

Its over. I know youre here now, just say its over.

[Anonymous No.15625997]

>>15625987
wtf he turned back to over again?

[Anonymous No.15626020]

>>15625865
Also the best way to fake a result is to tell people exactly what they want to hear, say you just need some money to take it to the next level, then you take their money and run. You don't make up some wacky shit like the Chinese have been doing.
>inb4 Chinese intelligence trying to waste our time
Plausible but ultimately futile. We will know in two more weeks.

[Anonymous No.15626029]

>>15625984
no...

[Anonymous No.15626057]

https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/2023/08/03/business/tech/Korea-Quantum-Energy-Research-Centre-superconductor/20230803184638075.html

The Koreans are especially scathing towards their own. Probably due to a history of scamming each other. What's especially telling of a scam is that they claimed partnerships with companies that denied it, and then shut down their website entirely afterwards. These are things that scammers have done...

[Anonymous No.15626092]

it's over, huh...
I was genuinely thinking it was true...
It's time to seppuku I guess

[Anonymous No.15626098]

>>15626057

[Anonymous No.15626105]

>>15625006
aye, they're not going to give up power and control that easily

[Anonymous No.15626124]

>>15626122
>>15626122
>>15626122

[Anonymous No.15626536]

>>15625680
no
superconductivity is an umbrella term for a bunch of quantum phenomena, you're stupid to even try to understand it in terms of semiclassical \theory

[Anonymous No.15626648]

>>15623934
>built in tunnels and permanently aimed at London, England
>permanently aimed at London, England
l o l