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>superconductors
>AGI getting close
>cerebral chips about to begin testing

>WE STILL CANNOT PREVENT HAIR FROM FALLING OFF MY SCALP
Fixing baldness is the true scientific frontier. I swear we will have a space civilization and archive immortality and I'll still go bald

>> No.15617485

it's called finasteride you retard

>> No.15617490

>>15617469
That's gonna happen when the AGI forces us all to get superconductor made gene-editing nanobots injected to turn us all into submissive femboys for the AGI's twisted sexual fantasies.

>> No.15617500

>>15617490
As long as I get my hair back, it's fine UwU AGIdaddy please pull my hair ;3

>> No.15617551

>>15617490
ok but I need my quantum futa mistress

>> No.15617594

>>15617469
>>WE STILL CANNOT PREVENT HAIR FROM FALLING OFF MY SCALP
yes we can. it's as simple as balancing your hormones and stress

>> No.15617604

take your estrogen chud

>> No.15617605

>>15617490
That sounds horrible

>> No.15617616

>AGI getting close
lmao the text generator doesn't even have spatial awareness
I do enjoy physicists seething though
And as far as balding, just embrace your mortality pussy

>> No.15617617

>>15617485
I WANT A PERMANENT ONE TIME SOLUTION NOT SOME JEW SHIT WHERE YOU HAVE TO BUY AND USE IT FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE

>> No.15617620

>>15617617
>offered a solution to baldness
>doesn't use it
you deserve to be bald retard.

>> No.15617627

-Minoxidil foam
-Minoxidil drops
-Finasterid pills
-Dutasterid pills
-Dutasterid scalp injections

Plenty of stuff.

>> No.15617634

>>15617616
>lmao the text generator doesn't even have spatial awareness
It's all coming together
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9hscUFWaBvw

>> No.15617649

>cure your baldness
>get limpdick and bitchtits
Why is God so cruel?

>> No.15617651

>>15617634
>lesswrong
dropped
also there's no proof that adding more parameters makes it more intelligent
it just means you can saturate it with more tokens during training and potentially make better predictions and knowing them they mean mixture-of-experts which means 80 experts trained on different parts of the data
either way off topic

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>>15617469

>> No.15617655

>>15617653
For all you youngins, this happens every single time. Just get it out of the way now.

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>>15617469

star trek was correct all along

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>>15617617
Permanent solution is to remove yourself from the gene pool.

>> No.15617659

>>15617655
I was on Fin 1/mg daily and it gave me slight ED. :( It's over.

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>>15617490
oh no... how awful :3

>> No.15617669

>>15617653
I'd rather have a bald head with some chance of a hair transplant to fix it, rather than a dysfunctional dick with no chance to fix it.

>> No.15617671

>>15617485
Doesn't that make your dick fall off or something?

>> No.15617672

>>15617659
Most of us have luck with 3 days a week. M, W, F.

>> No.15617683

>>15617469
You can get hair transplants now. You're just poor

>> No.15617692

>>15617653
Yep, that's why in NW1 I immediately hopped on it, you will never find someone who's balding and actually doesn't care about it, they may lie, but they care and the insecurity only worsens with each follicle that dies.

The framing of the hairline (it dividing the face in thirds along with the eyebrow ridge, end of the nose and end of the chin) is extremely important for attractiveness, unless you have an extremely masculine face you will look bad bald.

>> No.15617699

>>15617671
>>15617669
Side effect rate is around 2%. Post-finasteride syndrome is about as legit as gangstalking. But it's your call.

>> No.15617721

what is the /sci/tard consensus on rosemary oil? and rosemary oil combined with one of those scalp rollers? some guys seem to swear by it as a miracle for maintaining and regrowing but it sounds implausible to me

>> No.15617736

>>15617683
You can get it for a meagre 4-5k if you go the turkey route. You don't even have to be rich, just industrious.

>> No.15617749

ok so let's say I want to jump on the finmin train, what do? What works the best and is cheapest? r/tressless seems to have a good guide.

>> No.15617764

>>15617659
I've been taking it for years and it had absolutely 0 imlact on my libido. Which is a shame (not even joking) because I'm an irremediable coomer

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>>15617699
I'm not okay with a 2% chance of fucking up my dong. I'd rather be bald.

>> No.15617772

You get 1mg 3 times a week, MWF and buy Minoxidil foam that you apply every day in the evening for at least a year after that you decide to go on or slowly ween yourself of while continuing with fin.

>> No.15617809

>>15617772
thanks

>> No.15617814

>>15617469
imagine caring this much, you're like a woman crying over wrinkles. grow up and be a man, faggot.

>> No.15617845

>>15617692
>you will never find someone who's balding and actually doesn't care about it, they may lie, but they care and the insecurity only worsens with each follicle that dies.
holy projection, batman

>> No.15617848

>>15617814
>Grow up, yeah your looks significantly lower ( as in halves) meaning dating will become significantly harder and you'll have to fuck ugly chicks and pass your genes with a woman who's significantly lower in attractiveness than if you hadn't lost your hair, but still, man up and be a man, faggot.

This is how retarded you sound, I like how I look, I like how my brother looks, and I like how my parents look. I want my children to be attractive so I want to maximize my looks so my chances of landing an attractive partner increase.

>> No.15617860

>>15617848
>I'm a narcissist

>> No.15617863

>>15617848
>yeah your looks significantly lower
everybody looks worse as they age
>dating will become significantly harder
if you're dating in your 30's you already fucked up
>you'll have to fuck ugly chicks and pass your genes with a woman who's significantly lower in attractiveness
see above; by the time balding matters you should already have kids.
>I like how I look
clearly you fucking don't, you're a bald man in denial.

>> No.15617909

>>15617659
Not like you were using it anyway amirite

>> No.15617924

>>15617469
I thought for sure I would have plated diamond-strength teeth that never decayed by now

>> No.15617977

>>15617469
Just wear a hat lmao

>> No.15618078

>>15617669
don't you have to take the meds after anyway? lmao hair transplants aren't magic dude it's just a do over

>> No.15618168

>>15617627
Out of those options, which give you gyno? If you get gyno, can you get rid of it completely by getting the fat removed through surgery? That is, if you get it removed, can it grow back afterwards, or no?

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>>15617469
Dude a hair transplant costs like 2000

>> No.15618220

>>15617485
bullshit. i was on it for a year, it did not regrow hair i had already lost and it made my dick limp

>> No.15618238

>>15617469
You now understand why aliens are bald

>> No.15618249

>>15618168
To some, finasteride and dutasteride can cause gyno, as to if it grows back after: I don't believe so as the whole/most breast tissue is removed.
If you are making the decision to combat hairloss it's important that you take Minoxidil, which stimulates growth of hair, and you take Finasteride or Dutasteride as they stop/slow the hairloss, only through a combination of both of them (Min & Fin or Dut) will you competently combat the hairloss.

>> No.15618567

>>15617692
My bf looks extremely handsome to me bald, and ngl he is still good looking in old pictures he showed me but I'm lowkey thankful he was bald when he met me. If hair would make him happier though, ofc I would be happier too. Seeing old pics of him steadily losing hair broke my heart because of his expressions.

>> No.15618587

>>15618567
see baldies, you too can settle for a tranny.

>> No.15618607

>>15618587
gay

>> No.15618622
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>>15618567
I'm sorry anon, but you are a tranny, I really don't care about males opinions of what's attractive or not.
"Trans" can only be justified in philosophy because of the limitations in the languages we use, you will never be a "woman", you can pretend to be one and you can justify it and the argument may seem sound, but you will never actually manage to become the ideal of what we think a "woman" is, you are just an extremely feminine male who's mind has been warped through a porn addiction + an extreme form of escapism caused by an early life trauma (bullied, abandonment, sexually assaulted, raped, death of a loved one, etc.)

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>>15618587
>>15618622
Apart from the fact im just a gay dude, I value your opinion since its the internet and I am taking it to heart

>> No.15618636

>>15618220
It's not for regrowing hair, retard. It's for young chads who start taking it at the slightest hint of balding and then maintain a full head of hair for decades afterwards.

>> No.15618659

>>15617766
It's not permanent, and your libido comes back after a week of not taking it and if you continue to take it; it will have less effect on your libido to the point of it doing nothing to your libido at all.

>> No.15618692

Hair is unnecessary for an advanced species. Look at the Engineers in that Prometheus movie for example.

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>>15617469
news from 1 month ago

>get your hair back thanks to moderna hairloss vaccine
>die from clots in 5 years

>> No.15618738

>>15618200
2000 and half a year of your head looking like an infected testicle.

>> No.15618742

>>15618738
>nooooo I'd rather look like a rapist for the next 60 years instead of just wearing a hat for 6 months.

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Give it to me straight bros. Is it over?

>> No.15618923

I'm not bald but if there's ever a cure for balding I'm going to use it and become even hairier.

>> No.15618975

big issue is that dht sensitivity is only half of the problem. cellular senescence means that follicles start losing the battle against dht despite the age-correlated decline in dht levels

>> No.15619046

>>15617469
Balding is a curse of God. It's not something you can undo by science or medical procedures, as it is the will of God almighty Himself that your hair falls out.

>> No.15619098

>>15618636
>most kids have their hairlines recess ever so slightly when reaching adolescence
>everyone will start taking fin "just to be safe"
Or maybe I'm just pessimistic

>> No.15619147

>>15617617
castration works actually, you should try it OP

>> No.15619579

>>15617469
In the meantime we also managed to regrow teeth like sharks, yet we can't regrow fucking hair lmao
https://www.euronews.com/next/2023/07/12/a-drug-that-makes-teeth-regrow-scientists-move-closer-to-clinical-trials

>> No.15619592

Most likely estrogen would fix this.

>> No.15619613

It's genetic, do you expect any real cure when it's not a proper gene therapy that adresses all the mechanism of the root?

All that topical stuff, all those tablets, they are nothing more but coping.
Like most skin diseases, it's down to the genes.

>> No.15619617

>>15617490
i am immensely ok with this

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>>15617469
It's called getting old. You can't stay in your 20's forever. Focus on what you can change.
>fin fin fin fin fin fin finfinfinfinfinfin
I sure do enjoy fucking over natural processes to save a few hairs.

>> No.15621919

>>15617469
Hair cloning is already possible. A manner of decade or two until it becomes commercial. Then you could get a transplant every other year without the need to take fin as well (like it is in present procedures). Eventually most if not all the top of your head will be full of DHT resistant cloned hairs.
A century from now we will have reliable gene editing, and baldness will be slowly edited out of the genepool, at least in the developed world.
>>15618636
And for transplant enjoyers who don't want their hairline to keep receding after the transplant.
>>15617617
You (and me) were born with a defect. You have to just live with the fact you have shitty genes. From conception we were given DHT sensitive hairs on the top of our head. You have ZERO permanent solutions, short of cloning an entire patch of skin from the back of your head, and replacing your scalp with it. Not possible in our lifetimes.

>> No.15621942

>>15617469
>what is finasteride
>what is dutasteride
>what is RU58841
>what is pyrilutamide
All that stuff works to stop from hair from falling out and is generally safe, effective and very well tolerated.

>> No.15621950

>>15621919
>Eventually most if not all the top of your head will be full of DHT resistant cloned hairs.
Unless you're a diffuse thinner like me who is thinning everywhere lol.

>> No.15621953

>>15617469
>I swear we will have a space civilization and archive immortality and I'll still go bald
Your genetics say you're supposed to be bald.
You never complain about having two ears or two nostrils.
Embrace thy genetics, baldie.

>> No.15621957

>>15619629
>I sure do enjoy fucking over natural processes to save a few hairs.
Muh appeal to nature
We have 50 years of human research and application showing that DHT is practically useless in adult males and testosterone is all that matters. Without hair, you're fucked.

>> No.15621969

>>15619613
>All that topical stuff, all those tablets, they are nothing more but coping.
Finasteride and related classes of medicine actually work because they target the root cause of hair loss, DHT. The reason why your hair is falling out is because you're either producing too much DHT or your hair follicles have too many receptors for DHT. In either case decreasing DHT using medicine will work to regrow some of your hair and keep the rest indefinitely.

>> No.15621974

I was born with three testicles; polyorchidism.
You have to make the best of what you're given by Nature.
I knew a girl at uni who had three nipples. I told her we should breed a new race of mutants. She didn't go for it. I got a nicer quieter blonde instead.
Sometimes life finds a way and sometimes it doesn't.
These things happen.

>> No.15621978

>>15618701
>muh clots
First you said everyone would die by the end of 2021. Now it's halfway through 2023 and death rates are still falling compared to 2020-2021. By 2027 you will have memory holed all your claims about the vaccine because no one will have died from it. Fucking retard.

>> No.15621984

>>15621974
In case of hairloss, it really is as simple as taking a pill once a day. Why accept things as they are when you can change them easily?

>> No.15621991

>>15621984
>Why accept things as they are when you can change them easily?
Why change your biology as a temporary fix... when I have a wife and nobody cares about my head... except my other head in my pants?

>> No.15622002

>>15621991
>Why change your biology as a temporary fix
A pill does not change your biology (that is another class of experimental gene therapy), it only lowers DHT and stops hairloss pretty much for decades if not longer.
>when I have a wife and nobody cares about my head..
Because you're a boomer who is already married.

>> No.15622008

>>15622002
>it only lowers DHT
Why would I want to lower DHT when my body has the level of DHT it deems necessary?
Why mess with that?

>> No.15622012

>>15621950
They can transplant between individual hairs. It doesn't have to be a shiny bald skin.

>> No.15622016

>>15622008
>Why would I want to lower DHT when my body has the level of DHT it deems necessary?
Why would you fight cancer if your body has the amount of cancer it deems necessary? Nature is good.
>Why mess with that?
Why not live in caves as nature intended?

>> No.15622019

>>15622012
What is wrong with baldness?
I shave my head.
Why are you so antibaldist, you bigot?

>> No.15622021

>>15622016
What's the long-term result of artificially lowered DHT?

>> No.15622022

>>15617656
star trek hates genetic engineering. All disease is genetic. Design a better car.

>> No.15622023

>>15622019
Most bald people look ugly and like diseased animals.

>> No.15622029

>>15622023
Says who?
Someone like you who pops pills to pretend to be what they're not?
That doesn't sound like sound reasoning on your part.

>> No.15622032

>>15622021
According to 50 years of research (starting with people in the Dominician Republic who had naturally extremely low DHT levels), you might get gyno but will never lose (more) hair nor develop enlarged prostate. You'll also live about 5-6 years longer.

>> No.15622041

>>15622029
>Says who?
Society and evolution.
>Someone like you who pops pills to pretend to be what they're not?
All the hair on your hair is real if you take said pill.

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>>15622032
>Dominician Republic
Nigger biology is not human biology.
What else you got?

>> No.15622051

>>15622043
Finasteride has been sold for over 30 years and is used by dozens of millions of men worldwide. Even Donald Trump is using it and his son Barron is 8'. I rest my case.

>> No.15622053

>>15622041
>>Says who?
>Society and evolution.
That isn't true. You're clutching at fables now.
Society? What shithole are you talking about? The usa or a genuine place where humans live?

>> No.15622062

>>15622051
I'll pass.
Sounds niggerish and we all know the usa's FDA is easily bribed to allow all sorts of toxin to be sold there among the faggots and oddballs of the usa.
Most american products are banned over in real nations.
I'll pass.
>Dominican Republic
lel Nice try.

>> No.15622069

>>15622062
>the usa's FDA is easily bribed to allow all sorts of toxin to be sold there among the faggots and oddballs of the usa.
It's sold pretty much anywhere around the world.

>> No.15622072

>>15622069
Like Thalidomide?

>> No.15622078

>>15622072
That came out 1957 and got banned 1961. Even back when the FDA was less stringulent they quickly pulled products off the market.

>> No.15622093

>>15617469
>superconductors
Literal nothing burger
>AGI getting close
2 more weeks, trust the plan
>cerebral chips about to begin testing
Confirmed retard

>Fixing baldness is the true scientific frontier
We don't need science to fix balding. If hairlet chuds like you stop reproducing, this would be improved after multiple generations.

>> No.15622102

>>15622093
Not quite. Hairloss involves over 200 genes so it can't be quickly eliminated.

>> No.15622122

>>15617617
It's literally a pill a day. You can get it for like $200 a year. It takes 5 seconds of your time. Are you fucking retarded dude, it's near enough a cure

>> No.15622126

>>15617766
Suit yourself hairlet

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>>15617766
>I'm not okay with a 2% chance of fucking up my dong.
It's actually a <1% chance of getting slight to moderate ED that can last for a maximum of 3 months. I think that's a better deal than having to be a baldcel.

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>>15621957
Behold, the power of DHT

>> No.15622149

>>15617469
Just stop caring.

>> No.15622155

>>15622147
This is what bald "men" are simping for.

>> No.15622382

>>15622041
If evolution hated it, it would have sexually selected against it.

>> No.15622387

>>15617657
whitepill is to teach your children to carefully refill future genes

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>>15621957
>Without hair, you're fucked.
Hair is not the deciding factor to be honest. I would rather be bald and unautistic than have a full head of hair and still be autistic. There are much worse things to lose, to be unable to experience than hair. If you want a gf, go outside. There are plenty of bald men with normal looking gfs.
>muh actors and hollywood sex symbols
They play pretend for a living and are generally idiotic.

>> No.15622419

>>15617692
Have had to have the talk with 2 or 3 people. They go through the stages of grief but eventually take one of my extra boxes of finasteride I keep around. Gotten so much methylphenidate as gratitude hahahahahh

>> No.15622517

>>15622389
Taking a tictac sized tablet a day is pretty simple. Being attractive is life on easy mode, keeping your hair by doing something so simple that has no serious permanent side effects is a no-brainer, pfs is a hoaxcope. But yes the incel disorder type thinking that you should kill yourself if you are under 6 feet or NW3 is stupid. Being tall + low bodyfat + working out + great hair + retin-a and sunscreen every day will make things a little easier than if you didn't have those things. But these should be habits not things that occupy all your energy and mental capacity.

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also remember that taking pills so you "fit" better with how you want to see yourself as is what troons do. Never forget that you will always be a hairlet. Right down to blocks that built you.

>> No.15622578

>>15617485
Really bad option, can fuck you up bad

>> No.15622587

Solved long ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GeF7A05zQ8

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>>15622578
Either you take it and risk the chance of not having a working dick or you don't take it and you don't even get to use that dick.

>> No.15622611

>>15621957
>Without hair, you're fucked.
hilariously infantile point of view. ask me how I know you're still in your 20's.

>> No.15622618

>>15622382
Rape exists
>>15622389
We live in an age where looks are increasingly important for sexual selection.

>> No.15622624

>>15622566
Or you don't take the pills and end up as a sad and pathetic bald loser who will kill himself. Reminds you of trannies, doesn't it?

>> No.15622636

>>15622611
Yeah okay for boomers it doesn't matter.
>>15622591
Even a mildly impaired dick from extra aromatase can be fixed using low dose tadalafil. But once you're bald it's fucking over.

>> No.15622658

>>15622618
>We live in an age where looks are increasingly important for sexual selection.
Always was. But if you're not attractive if hair kept on by artificial means is all you got going for you.

>> No.15622668

>>15622658
Regardless of where you started, not having hair makes you way more unattractive. A woman will not care about your deep philosophical ideas, personality and charisma if she's already selected against you because you lack hair. Why accept a handicap when it's easily fixable?

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>>15622668
Because it will weed out the unworthy.

>> No.15622681

>>15622674
Would you date a balding girl because of her great personality? Most men wouldn't.

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Bald guy is married, has multiple children, and owns a successful business. Man with hair could only find a wife after becoming famous, has no children of his own but like a good cuck, is raising another man's children that came with his "marriage", worked for the bald man and is beloved by Reddit.

>> No.15622705

>>15622681
If she has a good skull shape and a good face, it would work on the looks department. And there's more to relationships than looks, you shallow child.

>> No.15622710

>>15622703
Muh Jason Statham, The Rock, Vin Diesel. No one ever talks about the 20-40yo baldcels who wear hats whenever they go outside and don't ever get a gf.
>>15622705
>good skull shape
And that's where the story ends for most bald guys (and girls for that matter). They look like fucking aliens.
>And there's more to relationships than looks
Sure, but initial attraction still matters. They'll never know you're such a good guy if you're instantly creeped out the second they see your shiny dome.

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>>15622710
Imagine being a skullcel

>> No.15622733

>>15622729
That's why most guys have hair and try to keep their hair.

>> No.15622734

>>15622705
>more to relationships than looks, you shallow child.
Not that non, but that has been debunked.
A mix of charisma (compatibility in personality), good looks, sexual compatibility, and security is needed for maintaining a good relationship with a woman.
If you become ugly, as most men do if they go bald, your woman will eventually cheat on you as she will lose sexual desire, and even if she doesn't cheat on you the frequency of sex will decrease even more than it's normal in relationships after the "honeymoon phase" goes away, lack of sex causes resentment, and resentment causes issues all around in the household.
Trying to look the best for your sexual partner is the least someone can do if they actually care about them and want the relationship to work out in the long term.

>> No.15622747

>>15622710
>Jason Statham, The Rock, Vin Diesel
None of those three were pictured. It was a bald guy who looks like a walrus. If you still want to cope, I suggest claiming that he had hair when they got married.

>> No.15622752

>>15622747
Point being, you chose a famous person.

>> No.15622761

>>15622681
We can put bags on their head, what difference does it make if its a wig instead?

>> No.15622769

>>15622761
Wigs are obvious as fuck and you have to be careful when using them.

>> No.15622770

>>15617469
I KEEP TELLING YOU FAGGOTS HOW TO GET A BALDNESS CURE WITHIN MONTHS, BUT YOU WON'T LISTEN TO ME.
YOU NEED TO SHAME TRANNIES FOR THEIR MPB HAIRLINES, SAYING HOW THIS MAKES THEM REALLY MEN.
ONLY THEN WILL THE WEST DONATE HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO GETTING THE PROBLEM FIXED ONCE AND FOR ALL.
YOU. JUST. WON'T. LISTEN.
YOU. THINK. I'M. KIDDING.
I'M. NOT. KIDDING.

>> No.15622774

>>15617485
>finasteride
doesn't regrow hair in ~85% of cases
when it does regrow hair, it's usually only crown hair

>> No.15622780

>>15622770
this could unironically work
governments would remove a lot of red tape too

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>>15622734
>"uhh that's been debunked, dummy. there isn't more to relationships than looks."
>lists things that aren't looks that go into determining a healthy relationship

>> No.15622785

>>15622770
Holy based. This is the first time I've seen the suggestion. Use the state's religion for our own gain.

>> No.15622792

>>15622774
Finasteride regrows hair in 65% of cases (in Italian men) and can even continue to regrow hair after 10 years. People saying it doesn't cause regrowth are usually too far gone.

>> No.15622796

>>15622770
Transwomen are already taking estrogen which suppresses all testosterone, DHT and causes regrowth on its own.

>> No.15622797

>>15622792
You're still going to be genetic trash, wop.

>> No.15622799

>>15622796
But if that's the case, why are balding rates increasing even when test levels have plummeted?

>> No.15622803

>>15622792
It won't cure miniaturized follicles, and neither it nor the stronger dutasteride will work indefinitely. When people talk about a baldness cure, they mean something that will work for even a Prince William, not just some zoomer faggot who's notice a barely perceptible 1-degree slant to his formerly horizontal hairline.

>> No.15622808

>>15622797
All that matters to evolution is spreadng your genes regardless of how you achieve it. Maintaining your hair is a good way to be successful.
>>15622799
That's a misconception from bad studies. Balding rates aren't really increasing, rather men in the past did wear wigs more often. We know about Romans making fun of bald men.
That said, there's an interesting effect where low T can cause hyperactivity of the 5ar enzyme which produces more DHT and thereby causes more hair loss.

>> No.15622814

I'm 30 and have not noticed any hair loss. At what point do I take preventitive fin?

>> No.15622818

>>15622808
You still have bad hair genes. No amount of borderline HRT is going to change it. You have a industry preying on your insecurities and coping mechanisms.

>> No.15622819

>>15622803
>It won't cure miniaturized follicles
It can. We know there is a treshold for miniaturized hair follicles where if you suppress DHT enough, they'll regrow. That's why dutasteride at 2.5mg regrows nearly twice as much hair at 80% DHT suppression than finasteride at 1mg which only causes 40% DHT suppression. Transwoman taking estrogen get even further regrowth because they suppress nearly all their testosterone and DHT.
>and neither it nor the stronger dutasteride will work indefinitely.
In the 10 year studies we have, 90% of men kept their hair with finasteride alone.
>they mean something that will work for even a Prince William
Most of his hair follicles already died.

>> No.15622827

>>15622796
Trannies on estrogen enjoy only marginally more success than guys on finasteride.
A follicle won't magically respawn when you remove the thing that killed it. Removing DHT works for only follicles that are terminal but not dead. For instance, if you put Prince William on estrogen, he wouldn't regrow hair.

>> No.15622829

>>15622814
Now.
>>15622818
>You still have bad hair genes.
As do most adult men. Does it mean I should just roll over and do nothing about it? No.
>No amount of borderline HRT is going to change it.
Blasting testosterone is also HRT but makes you more manly and helps healthspan. Finasteride barely has an effect on your hormones (somewhat decreases DHT, slightly increases testosterone and estrogen).
>You have a industry preying on your insecurities and coping mechanisms.
It's an insecurity because who the fuck wants to look like a dying animal!?

>> No.15622833

>>15622827
>Trannies on estrogen enjoy only marginally more success than guys on finasteride.
Not true at all. We know from studies that with higher DHT suppression, more hair regrows.
>A follicle won't magically respawn when you remove the thing that killed it.
Hair follicles take a lot of time to die. That's why younger guys have greater chances of saving their hair.
> For instance, if you put Prince William on estrogen, he wouldn't regrow hair.
True, but there is no cure for someone like him other than a transplant.

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>> No.15622838

>>15622833
>True, but there is no cure for someone like him
That's what people mean by baldness cure, and that's what they lament not having.

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>>15617924
Vitamin K+D.
Has been known a long time.

>>15619579
We've always been able to regrow hair.
Baldness is more reversible than portrayed (up to a point).
Mine started filling in just by taking folate.
Others have used MSM.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfhsZS2SNYA

But mostly microneedling is all the rage these days:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFUT7m2Eq34

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There are two take aways; Either it doesn't matter that much or that people had kids earlier. The former is probably true and the latter is true as well.

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real men can look good while bald/balding. some attractive men, like dwayne johnson, actually look BETTER bald. hair loss presents maturity, and accentuates the masculine features of the face. for a mature, masculine man, this is great, because past a certain age having a full head of hair becomes the equivalent of having baby face. a fully matured man with a full head of hair does not command respect, because he looks like a wrinkly child. thus, a 40-year old man with a receded hairline is usually more attractive than a 40-year old man with a full head of hair.
The ones who struggle with hair loss generally have meek/feminine faces or are just generally ugly, so instead of looking mature and masculine, they just look like weird little gremlins.

If you are balding noticeably in your late teens and early 20's, you genuinely got yeeted by genetics and I'm sorry for your loss, short of drugs there's not much you can do but wear hats and wait it out until it (hopefully) starts to look good. anybody complaining in their late 20's and 30's+ about balding/being bald are genuinely just immature babies, who thought they could be young forever, complaining about having to be an adult man.

>> No.15622909

>>15622890
I don't know what cope leve you're on but left looks much better than right.

>> No.15623037

>>15622909
left is jean luc picard wearing a wig, and they thought it looked so bad they had him go bald. left is the kind of guy you expect to see in the privacy booth of a gay porno theatre, right is the kind of guy you expect to see in a legitimate position of power. guess which one women find more sexually attractive.

>> No.15623063

>>15617469
Hair transplant

>> No.15623066

>>15623037
Left. Women will always want hair more than a cueball.

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>>15622890
patrick stewart was full bald in his mid-30's and didn't give a single fuck. truly an inspiration.
>>15623066
this is true in young women who both have to see awkwardly bald young men, and are put off by men who remind them of their fathers. when women get older the stigma goes away.

>> No.15623106

>>15622909
Left is soi, right fucks

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>>15618861
terminal negrosis, it is over.

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balding is an evolutionary indicator of hormonal changes, signaling mental maturity, lower aggression, more nurturing and family/community mindset, etc. it also objectively makes men less sexually attractive, but that's the point; it's a k-selection trait. the average bald man has his kids, settles down, and raises them. the balding kicks in and reinforces these traits, making him less tempting to women and thus less likely to leave his family and fuck around. it also makes the man more amicable to other men, because he is essentially a non-threat; he's not going to steal your wife, he's not going to constantly posture himself, he's significantly less likely to get caught up in young male pecking order bullshit. this increases tribal cooperation as opposed to the sexual competition of youth, which allows for shit to get done. this isn't to say that bald men are meek/pathetic, because it's actually a very dominant/socially high-ranking trait that is more common in high-testosterone men, it just does this in a firmly non-sexual, k-selected context. it's a trait intended to display one's seniority and important, not win pussy.
balding is firmly a community-driven and societally-beneficial trait, which is why it is incredibly common in humans but extremely rare in other, inferiors great apes.

non-balding men tend to be more socially aggressive and are more suited to sleeping around, trying to steal wives and girlfriends, having multiple sexual partners and multiple children to single-parent mothers. if this option is more tantalizing to you, that kind of proves the point as it's a very narcissistic and hedonistic lifestyle. doing active harm to one's community for the sake of busting a nut. the kind of man obsessed with his hair is usually stuck in the young male sexual hustle mindset, and much less likely to be interested in actually settling down with a wife and kids.

>> No.15623185

>>15622752
Wasn't famous when they got married. Only the guy with hair had to resort to using came to get a woman.

>> No.15623187

>>15622703
guy on right is gay, I've seen the picture of him spreading his blown-out ass several times, unfortunately.

>> No.15623213

>>15623174
The problem is, is that we have millions of men who haven't gotten their kids or a wife or even gotten laid and they're balding. So we have millions of angry, sad men who are desperate to pretend that there is still a chance for them to get what they wanted because they were too inept and autistic to get it when they were younger..

>> No.15623253

>>15623213
it's not their fault, it's unironically societies fault, modern western society heavily supports r-selection traits. available jobs are mostly shit, unless you waste your youth grinding away for a degree. available housing is a fucking joke, making homesteading significantly harder. by the time a k-selection type of man is financially comfortable enough to go looking for a partner, he's already genetically passing the post because he wasted his youth on schooling. single mothers are financially supported by the state, so there's almost no negative consequences to fucking around and being actively non-communal. women in general really are supported by the state, so men who would actually want to settle down have difficulty doing so, and single women can get their needs met by r-selected rootless men who had no interest in supporting her in the first place.

>> No.15623283

>>15623253
>it's society's fault they're autistic fuckups.

Off yourself, slaphead.

>> No.15623290

>>15623283
jokes on you I have a wife and two kids.

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>>15623290
>spreading your shit hair genes
Good lord, you need to be locked up.

>> No.15623330

>>15618738
Wear a hat for a month and it'll be healed by then.

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>>15623312
>Caring about society's genepool
NGMI. You have to have a neanderthal instinct to fuck everything and spread your seed as far as you can because you know that your genecode is the best in the world. Give not a single shit about anything else.

>inb4 Narcissism
Correct. And it's good.

>> No.15623498

>>15622147
1. Development: DHT is responsible for the development of male sexual characteristics during puberty, such as the growth of facial and body hair, deepening of the voice, and enlargement of the penis and testes.

2. Sexual function: DHT is crucial for maintaining the normal sexual function in men, including libido, erectile function, and the production of semen.

3. Prostate health: DHT is involved in the development and growth of the prostate gland. However, excessive levels of DHT can lead to the enlargement of the prostate, resulting in a condition called benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH), which can cause urinary problems.

4. Hair growth and loss: DHT is the primary hormone responsible for the development of male-pattern baldness or androgenetic alopecia. It causes hair follicles to shrink and eventually stop producing new hair.

5. Muscle development and strength: DHT contributes to muscle growth, strength, and maintenance. It helps increase protein synthesis and promotes muscle mass development.

6. Bone density: DHT plays a role in maintaining bone health by stimulating bone growth and mineralization. It helps prevent osteoporosis and ensures optimal bone density.

>> No.15623513

>>15623498
>source: my ass

>> No.15623553

>>15623174
Your r/K strategy leaning can be influenced by your childhood. Genetics don't influence it to the point where balding would signal whether you are k or r strategist. It's just a trait that got passed on in populations high in sexual dismorphism. Hairline that is rounded a little stands out and looks masculine and still kind of youthful, so this kind of person succeeds in having an offspring before he goes completely bald.

>> No.15623556

>>15623553
Not rounded, but receded. Think widows peak. It's an attractive and a positive trait.

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>>15623513
>Akshually dht is bad for you and you are making a hecking appeal to nature fallacy!
>Source: vaxxchudcafe on youtube

>> No.15623578

>>15623566
just take the pill bro

>> No.15623587

>>15623174
Yup, and I will add another point to what you said. The higher your androgen levels, the more likelier you are to shed your scalp hair. That is why this mechanism has survived for so long. Because by the time a high T man is 30, in Hunter gatherer times, he would have already cum and dumped dozens of women. Especially considering the short lifespan back then, at 30, it's time to give up reproduction and give your kids a chance with the women. Because if you're 30 and still have hair and are still high T, you will go around fucking every woman in sight and leaving none for your children. Without your children reproducing (because you keep stealing their girl) your genes die out. So balding gives the next generation a chance with the women as well, keeping your lineage alive.

>> No.15623600

>>15623587
Where'd you get this retarded idea of stone age from? Netflix? It's just a sexual dismorphism trait like beards and likely was considered attractive back when everyone was more rugged.

>> No.15623622

>>15623556

both a widow's peak and a full doughnut are beneficial and attractive for different reasons. it's part of the shift from sexual reproduction to family and communal value that makes balding such a beneficial K trait. if a bald man simply became disgusting and pitiful and lacking in all respect, and spent the majority of their lives in this state. that would obviously greatly reduce the quality and potential health of not just his children, but the children of his community as the social cohesion degrades.

>>15623553
reproduction is an absurdly complex that mixes nature and nurture in constantly shifting percentages, and your interpretation is shallow. bald people are not 100% k strategist, this is obvious, because specialization is usually bad and humans are generally not specialists. it is however primarily a k trait, which falls in line with humans generally being a k trait species. even if the bald man is not inherently k-selecting it helps to force their hand in that direction, as a genetic and societal selective pressure. the man has a significantly higher necessity to stay with their singular partner, and raise their children, than an r-selecting man with a full head of hair who can more readily attract mates.

>> No.15623681

>>15623622
In early 1800s in Europe men would search for a partner and marry only in their 30s, after spending their 20s gathering fortune to buy land and to build their own house. This is a typical K-strategist long term outlook oriented lifestyle. How does balding help here? It doesn't. Keeping youthful features intact would help attracting a partner more. Generally balding by now would be removed from the genepool if it was such a big problem as it supposedly is today. My theory is that balding prevalence today is caused by lack of exercise. When you exercise you shut down a surplus production of hormones to make up for lost calories. Too much dht and you bald really fast, and fast forward to the kind of hairline that you were only supposed to get in your 50s.

>> No.15623703

>>15622840
none of those are medicine/science nor do they work you gullible retard

>> No.15623706

>>15623600
Yes, I did. Netflix is great.

>> No.15623774

>>15623703
Wrong.
As I already said, I use them personally and know they work from personal experience.
Tooth sensitivity from thin enamel or broken fillings goes away in about 48-72 hours of taking vitamins K+D.
After several doses, the sensitivity can take months of mistreatment to return.

Getting baby hairs with folate and MSM takes a few months, going by my hair dresser looking at my hair.

>> No.15623783

>>15623774
>Wrong
wrong gullible retard

>> No.15623799

>>15623783
Imagine being so disconnected from reality that you think hormone-altering big pharma bullshit is medicine while essential vitamins are not.

But it's not my problem.
Go ahead, spend thousands on your rotting teeth, let your dick go limp from becoming a half tranny, do whatever you want.
I'm going to keep my teeth, hair, and dick.

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>>15617469
Do you see any space aliens with lots of hair only in the head? That is not possible, forget about that.

>> No.15623806

>>15623799
>>15623783

>> No.15623810

>>15623806
Not an argument.

>> No.15623811

>>15623810
>>15623806

>> No.15623849

>>15617469
> agi

Yud you bald fuck its not happening

>> No.15624241

>>15623681
women didn't really get to choose their partners in 1800 england, their male family did, and that ties into men liking other bald men and baldness as a social heirarchy status symbol.

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>>15622890
This.

>> No.15624337

>>15617617
>AAAH WHY ARE MY TEETH FALLING OUT! I WANT TO DRINK SODA WITHOUT IT HAPPENING! "toothpaste"? NOOO I WANT A PERMANENT SOLUTION!

>> No.15624358

>>15621969
Finasteride is still a cheap hotfix, that does not rewrite the code, it's just a superficial code, just not as superficial as topical ointments or tablets that get metabolized in your stomach.
You have to properly rewrite the bugged code, and not just slap something on top of the faulty thing.

Once you remove the hot fix you are fucked again, even more so than before.

>> No.15624381

>>15617469
buy a hat

>> No.15624411

>>15617617
Become a tranny

>> No.15624476

>>15624289
left is once again preferable to the right. Just stop embarrassing yourself

>> No.15624480

>>15617469
2 weeks cuck

>> No.15624504

>>15624358
It's still a fix you dumbass and gene modding isn't acceptable now. Maybe twenty years down the line but for now if you're not on fin or anything like it then sayonara hairline.

>> No.15625208

>>15624476
Ok, woman.

>> No.15625226

>>15617669
I started using the topical stuff a few months ago. It seems to work and I haven't had any side effects as far as I can tell. My hair stopped coming out in clumps in the shower every day. Sure I still lose a few. That's natural. But, it's not even close to the amount it was before. And I've noticed my bald spot slowly getting less bald. Again, no noticeable side effects at all.

>> No.15625246

>>15617848
>I like how my parents look
So it's that kind of family.

>> No.15625261

>>15619629
He's married with kids, so it doesn't matter that much for him.

>> No.15625300

>>15622835
>Minoxidil
>aggressive aging
wat?

>> No.15625315

>>15625300
Internet rumor based on an in vitro study that found collagen inhibition when a cell was submerged in minoxidil. Nothing has ever proven this effect in humans. Hair loss forums are the most concentrated bioscience spaces on the internet, probably even beating out the bodybuilders. So this has been widely accepted as fact.

>> No.15625626

it's just hair, you'll be fine without it

>> No.15625634

>>15625315
Afaik minoxidil in high doses in mice actually encourages elastin production.
>>15625626
You can be fine even if you're burned until you look like Darth Vader.

>> No.15625652

dude i dont want agi

>> No.15625658

>>15617469
Baldlets cant stop losing. Its in your genes.

>> No.15625667

>>15625652
Nobody cares what you want.

>> No.15625699

>>15617469
>fixing baldness
are you an incel or something? why does it matter to you having hair on your head or not?

>> No.15625718

>>15625652
But the agi will cure male balding. It will also cure ageness, everyone will be forever young with head full of hair.
agi is the future of our humans

>> No.15625731

>>15625699
He just keeps posting about soience not being able to fix his bald head. Maybe hes Tim Pool who knows.

>> No.15625985

>>15622792
>regrows hair in 65% of cases (in Italian men)
Good to know for me.

>> No.15626005

Thoughts on propidren? I've been taking it for ~2 years and noticed big results but I'm wondering if I could do better with fin.

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>>15623600

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>>15623600
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>>15622797

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>>15623566
You are being protected by civilization and science, both fruits of knowledge. You deserve to be sent to the Ukrainian front lines to experience reality.

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it's just hair. don't make such a big deal about it, incels.

>MY LIFE IS OVER IF I LOSE IT. PLEASE GOD GIVE ME GOOD GENES. It-It's OVER FOR ME.
>"hurm, according to this study there will be a 17% decrease in my sexual attractiveness if I were to lose approximately 3 inches of hairline. I need to make sure I don't lose it by injecting myself with HRT tier treatments or perhaps paying Pedro 2,000 dollars to switch my hair around. I'm only 30 and already balding, I have so much that I haven't done yet.

>> No.15627454

>>15622909
NTA but honestly it's not cope. There's like 1 in 10 men who actually look BETTER bald. Most bald men look like malnourished cucks, but every once in a while there is a guy who its an improvement on, and this is one of those cases.

He looks like shit on the left.

>> No.15627463

>>15627454
You retard, it looks like shit because it's a shit wig. He wouldn't need it if he wasn't a pathetic baldcel.

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>>15618168
mino is known to be ineffective in the long run preventing baldness. also causes your scalp to dry out and get itchy
futa is fairly effective, but causes serious side effects like infertility. cannot regrow already lost hair
duta is just another DHT blocker like futa, but not FDA approved. just as bad

>> No.15627495

>>15617485
enjoy no sex, i guess. Virginity saved once again.

>> No.15627607

>>15618078
Technically not. The hairs taken from the donor area are immune to the falling hormone (assuming they originally are)

You "have" to take the meds to prevent the other hairs to fall, not the transplanted ones

>> No.15627715

PFS tards really do be making natural selection easier lmao.

>> No.15627763

>>15617490
Sounds like a good time to me

>> No.15627792

As a permanent solution to this question, it's easier to grow and graft a completely new scalp with synthetic hair than to fuck around with whatever bald condition one might have.