There is no gender bias in science…

[Anonymous No.15412998]

…and there never has been
>Research Finds No Gender Bias in Academic Science
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/faculty-issues/diversity-equity/2023/04/27/research-finds-no-gender-bias-academic-science

Reviewing decades of studies, researchers with “adversarial” perspectives conclude that tenure-track women and men in STEM receive comparable grant funding, journal acceptances and recommendation letters—and that women have an edge over men in hiring.

Claims of widespread gender bias in tenure-track hiring, grant funding and journal acceptances in the academic sciences are not supported by the data, a new study finds.

The paper published in Psychological Science in the Public Interest looked at two decades of research regarding biases that tenure-track women have faced since 2000. In the end, the authors determined tenure-track women in science, technology, engineering or math were at parity with men in tenure-track positions in the same fields when it comes to grant funding, journal acceptances and recommendation letters.

Women did have an advantage in the hiring process for the tenure-track jobs, though the evidence did show a bias against women in teaching evaluations and salaries. The salary gap, according to the report, was concerning but smaller than the oft-quoted statistic that women in STEM fields make 82 cents for every dollar that men earn. On average, the gap was 9 cents on the dollar, although the gap shrank to less than 4 cents when controlling for experience, type of institution and productivity, among other factors.

[Anonymous No.15413036]

>>15412998
So why aren't more women in STEM?

[Anonymous No.15413067]

>>15413036
according to the article
>women have an edge over men in hiring.
so there are already more women than there should be

[Anonymous No.15413137]

>>15412998
>the gap shrank to less than 4 cents when controlling for experience, type of institution and productivity, among other factors.
and then they stopped looking for more factors to control for, lest they come to the conclusion thatthe wage gap is a myth entirely based on the fallacy of comparing apples to oranges i.e. not controlling for all factors. that would have been bad and would have led to the researchers being cancelled.

[Anonymous No.15413197]

Blind recruitment trial to boost gender equality making things worse, study reveals
https://archive.is/rCfMx
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-30/bilnd-recruitment-trial-to-improve-gender-equality-failing-study/8664888
>A measure aimed at boosting female employment in the workforce may actually be making it worse, a major study has found.
Leaders of the Australian public service will today be told to "hit pause" on blind recruitment trials, which many believed would increase the number of women in senior positions.
Blind recruitment means recruiters cannot tell the gender of candidates because those details are removed from applications.
It is seen as an alternative to gender quotas and has also been embraced by Deloitte, Ernst & Young, Victoria Police and Westpac Bank.
In a bid to eliminate sexism, thousands of public servants have been told to pick recruits who have had all mention of their gender and ethnic background stripped from their CVs.
The assumption behind the trial is that management will hire more women when they can only consider the professional merits of candidates.
Their choices have been monitored by behavioural economists in the Prime Minister's department — colloquially known as "the nudge unit".
Professor Michael Hiscox, the former Harvard academic who oversaw the trial, said he was shocked by the results and has urged caution.
"We anticipated this would have a positive impact on diversity — making it more likely that female candidates and those from ethnic minorities are selected for the shortlist," he said.

The trial found assigning a male name to a candidate made them 3.2 per cent less likely to get a job interview.

[Anonymous No.15413203]

https://archive.is/kUDpe
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/melbourne-uni-offers-womensonly-maths-jobs-20160519-goytqb.html
>Melbourne Uni offers women's-only maths jobs

[Anonymous No.15413713]

>>15413036
They don't to work with impoverished nerds, they only like the medical field because doctors make a lot of money

[Anonymous No.15413721]

>>15413036
>there's no bias in hiring
>so why aren't there more people working?
because equitable analysis doesn't mean equitable outcomes if there are inequitable applications.
>aha! gotcha! so why aren't women applying to these positions?
because they don't want them, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.15413748]

>>15413067
so there's actually a bias against men. surprise surprise

[Anonymous No.15413943]

>>15413137

The best part is students rating them as worse teachers is 'a bias'.

[Anonymous No.15414527]

>>15413748
but you can't publish that because soience is fake and gay

[Anonymous No.15414556]

>>15412998
Everyone in STEM knew that. This is only a surprise for people outside of the fields (e.g. feminist activists demanding for more women in STEM).

And yes, some women in STEM also buy that crap that the field is sexist, but they know it's bullshit. They only support these claims because it's bs that benefits them.

[Anonymous No.15415401]

>>15414556
>They only support these claims because it's bs that benefits them.

[Anonymous No.15415768]

>>15414527

[Anonymous No.15417115]

>There is no gender bias in science…

[Anonymous No.15417565]

>>15413137
SHUT IT DOWN

[Anonymous No.15417781]

>There is no gender bias in science
women and men are two different things, they are not equal, they are not the same
women ≠ men
women are genetically dissimilar from men by 2.2%, male chimps are genetically dissimilar from men by 1.2%, thats how different women are from men

[Anonymous No.15419114]

>>15413943
strange bias given that the majority of university students are female

[Anonymous No.15419779]

>>15412998
>There is no gender bias in science…
Theres been affirmative action for roasties since the 1970s

[Anonymous No.15420772]

>>15413197
>Professor Michael Hiscox, the former Harvard academic who oversaw the trial, said he was shocked by the results and has urged caution.
REEEEEEEEEEE I didn't get the PC results I was hoping for, therefore the results are wrong

[Jealous No.15420775]

>There is no gender bias
There should me because the practice of science is mainly a masculine endeavor.

[Anonymous No.15421399]

>>15420772

[Anonymous No.15422448]

>>15412998
Does this officially prove that women don't belong in science?

[Anonymous No.15423423]

>>15422448
yes it does and by extension it also proves that effeminate males such as jews, faggots & trannys also don't belong

[Anonymous No.15423750]

>>15419779
yes and they're learned that crying to get their way is a valid and successful tactic

[Anonymous No.15425116]

>>15412998
There is bias in favor of women. Whoever wrote this "research" is an ideologue and a liar

[Anonymous No.15425531]

>>15425116
they're more honest than most are though, sad state of affairs

[Anonymous No.15426452]

>>15412998
>There is no gender bias in science
what is affirmative action?

[Anonymous No.15426764]

>There is no gender bias in science
there should be

[Anonymous No.15426991]

All this shit is just rhetoric perpetuated by politicians. Anyone who's been in a lab can see this entire talking point is horseshit, and the entire thing is a misunderstanding of what sacrifices are necessary to attain the autistic powers needed to tolerate a respective field.

[Anonymous No.15427751]

>>15426452

[Anonymous No.15428253]

>>15417115
they can't even build a basic rocket, early 20th century tech

[Anonymous No.15428575]

>>15423750
just goes to show that science is an unimportant job. can be filled with any warm body, doesn't make a difference who.

[Anonymous No.15429762]

>>15413067
Thats why NASA is all female and why they can't build a rocket

[Anonymous No.15429794]

>>15423423
jews are good at science, dude. ever hear of a guy called einstein?

[Anonymous No.15429857]

>>15429794
yeah the name is so embarrassing now people born with it have to change it, just like adolf hitler

[Anonymous No.15430085]

>>15412998
>Women did have an advantage in the hiring process for the tenure-track jobs, though the evidence did show a bias against women in teaching evaluations and salaries.
So women get preferential treatment in hiring, i.e., less competent women are hired over men, and then they think it's discrimination that women also get lower scores in teaching evaluations, and this makes the net discrimination even? Did I understand this correctly?

[Anonymous No.15430663]

>>15430085
>they think it's discrimination that women also get lower scores in teaching evaluations
from majority female student bodies

[Anonymous No.15430710]

>>15413943
It could be a bias or it could be unbiased.
It could just be a recount of the hiring bias (the hiring bias in favor of women might be letting in lower quality that is then reflected in student ratings).
It could be a bias on the part of students (they might just have something against women).
Or it could just be that women are worse at teaching.

If you use the prejudice definition of bias then the last one doesn't count as bias.
If you use the statistics definition of bias then the disparity in outcome is a bias regardless of cause.

[Anonymous No.15430773]

>>15412998
>There is no gender bias in science…
>…and there never has been
and in other news, animals breath oxygen and the sun emits light

[Anonymous No.15430800]

>>15430085
Yes, so tl;dr boomer faculty are fucking over young men by only hiring young women over and then then paying those women lower salaries while squeezing labour out of them ensuring young families are enslaved as much as humanly possible.

[Anonymous No.15430837]

>>15413713
that's a lot of words for "their brains are smaller". don't worry though men will keep inventing stuff for women to benefit from :)

>>15413>because they don't want them, dumbass.

>>15413721
>because they don't want them, dumbass.

because men are smarter, stronger, better, etc and women can't hack it :)

[Anonymous No.15430839]

>>15430800
As they have immigrants come through and do low end healthcare and service jobs to replace those women. The cycle of exploitation for cheap labor never ends.

[Anonymous No.15430882]

>>15430837
men and women are different, and are required for different roles in society.
just because those differences may annoy you, that does not justify saying men are blanket "better" than women.

[Anonymous No.15431509]

>>15430882
sammiches are good

[Anonymous No.15432605]

>>15431509
so are babies. women should work with their strong suits instead of trying to compete with men

[Anonymous No.15433742]

>>15413748
yes but they can't say it because the women, faggots and shitskins would chimp out. so instead we get the politically correct version, more craven lies from soience

[Anonymous No.15434575]

>>15430882
if A and B are different then one of them is necessarily going to be better.

[Anonymous No.15434853]

>>15433742
Sad state of affairs when objective truth is considered so offensives that its unspeakable

[Anonymous No.15434893]

>>15412998
Can a Woman do good in a major like the Classics Major??

[Anonymous No.15435254]

>>15412998
>Women did have an advantage in the hiring process for the tenure-track jobs
[Cpt. Obvious et al., 2023]

[Anonymous No.15435298]

>>15412998
similar things have been found in all of academia, it's almost like men and women might be different

[Anonymous No.15435299]

>>15435298
Abstract:
In most European universities, today the overall share of female bachelor’s degrees is more
than 50 percent but drops at the level of full professors to about 25 percent. This phenomenon
is called Leaky Pipeline. Most explanations refer to gender norms, motherhood, implicit or
explicit sexism, and “tokenism”. We take a novel approach, comparing the Leaky Pipeline
across various study fields in the two biggest Swiss Universities. We start with the popular
Token hypothesis of Rosabeth Moss Kanter, that women suffer from their minority position.
According to this hypothesis, it is expected that the higher the women´s share in a study field
the less pronounced the Leaky Pipeline. In contrast, the Self-Selection hypothesis and the Status
Group hypothesis lead to different expectations: The higher the women´s share in a study field
the more pronounced the Leaky Pipeline. Our data clearly reject the Token hypothesis. To test
the second and the third hypotheses, we conduct a representative survey at the two Swiss
Universities. We find strong evidence for Self-Selection effects, but no discrimination
according to a Status Group effect. We show that men and women in different fields of study
have different career motivations, family aspirations, and resources, which shape their career
and family dynamics and thus the observed Leaky Pipeline differently across disciplines. These
dynamics are reinforced by partner choice as women in female-dominated fields tend to match
with men in male-dominated fields, and vice versa. Our findings may explain why many of the
current measures to mitigate the Leaky Pipeline – in particular quota - are not effective.

[Anonymous No.15436484]

>>15435298
>>15435299
Good article, thanks for posting it. Nice to see that at least some ppl on this board can read instead of learning everything from hollywood and social media

[Anonymous No.15437162]

>>15434893
no

[Anonymous No.15437948]

>>15431509

[Anonymous No.15438783]

>>15412998
this "no bias" garbage is pure fence sitting sissiness
science should be able to figure out which gender is superior and favor that one, to do otherwise is to hinder the progress of science
if science can't even figure out something as basic as that then science should just give up, its not going to be able to work effectively

[Anonymous No.15439744]

>>15438783
Nah, they should not favor any gender, they should favor the capable ones without care for gender. This will lead to a steady balance of genders made from their ability to do the work. Otherwise you are not using some of the full capacity of the society.

[Anonymous No.15439747]

>>15439744
yeah society was really lagging back when all science was done by men

[Anonymous No.15439750]

I'm more of a math guy. Science is gay

[Anonymous No.15440937]

>>15439747

[Anonymous No.15441218]

>>15439744
>they should favor the capable ones without care for gender.
Thats what they were doing before affirmative action came around.

[Anonymous No.15441222]

>>15417781
source?

[Anonymous No.15442339]

>>15439747
>>15440937
lol