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/sfg/ - Space Flight General Anonymous Mon Feb 20 09:31:39 2023 No.15216718 [Reply] [Original]

Dragon is a spaceplane because it has wings edition
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>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 09:36:28 2023 No.15216727 File: 32 KB, 400x400, latest[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Orth

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 09:44:29 2023 No.15216737 File: 950 KB, 958x1196, rocketman.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Glass the Earth, demigod war eventually

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 09:47:32 2023 No.15216746 >>15216727 Reminder that this fat creep was outed as a scat & diapierfag on Discord.

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 09:51:59 2023 No.15216753
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The claimed specific power on this thing is insane. The downside is it can only be "recharged" by bathing it in neutron flux from a hot reactor.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 09:53:08 2023 No.15216754 File: 9 KB, 142x399, pioneer troon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15216746 >on Discord lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 09:54:24 2023 No.15216758 >>15216753 >NASA oh boy I can't wait to see it launch in 2146

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 10:04:03 2023 No.15216772
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>>15216753
Realistically speaking, how are these things supposed to navigate? Given distances and lightspeed distances, are all the commands preprogrammed in and executed autonomously? At such far distances, how will the trajectory calculations be precise enough? How does it do a course correction?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 10:06:12 2023 No.15216774 >>15216772 we'll figure it out once you approve 100 billion budget

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 10:18:24 2023 No.15216781 >>15216753 Is it this thing? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_isomer#Nuclear_batteries

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 10:26:57 2023 No.15216791 File: 173 KB, 1920x1200, Comet_outbursts_pillars.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Since Rosetta and Philae (2016), nothing. Not a single SCIENTIFIC space news, only shitty and useless commercial stuff.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 10:52:01 2023 No.15216808 >>15216727 Every Isaac Arthur video: >fusion >megastructures >habitats >wormholes would be useful no matter what the subject at hand

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 10:55:42 2023 No.15216809 >>15216772 Monkey pilot

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 10:57:58 2023 No.15216811 >>15216809 Kerbal pilot

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 11:10:47 2023 No.15216822 >>15216808 >fusion Based >megastructures Kino >habitats Patrician >wormholes Cringe Flat Earth-tier schizobabble

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 11:31:44 2023 No.15216852

>>15216635
NASDA would surely avoid the troubles development of the LE-7 if they didn’t have the help and the insurance staged combustion hydrolox was worth it from the SSMEs

However they also followed a clear plan to progressively gain independent and indigenous medium launch capabilities, so something in the class of the H-II would still exist. And it’d probably still use SRBs because of their evolutionary approach and to maintain solid propulsion skills to have ICBM-readiness

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 11:41:11 2023 No.15216865 >china is preparing to help russia in ukraine what can we expect from the space perspective? china hacking starlink?

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 11:43:35 2023 No.15216868

>>15216822
>Cringe Flat Earth-tier schizobabble
Tell him that. On his recent "Planetary Terraforming Strategies" video he spent significant time talking about how it would be handy if you could open a wormhole between worlds to transport gasses for terraforming, and absolutely zero time talking about practical methods (if any) that could really be used.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 11:45:24 2023 No.15216869 >>15216865 Blimp attack.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 11:45:42 2023 No.15216870 >>15216727 Did he lose weight?

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 12:03:56 2023 No.15216887

>>15216392
>It’s amazing just how many modern rockets use the shuttle-era “Core + Sustainer” architecture. If the shuttle never flew, would Ariane 5, H-II, even Energia, have happened?
they're oldspace hydrogen rockets, and hydrogen rocket engines are so weak that in most cases they need to attach sideboosters just so they can get the rocket off the ground. That being said in some cases smaller sideboosters can be nice as they can adjust their number to a particular flight, thus saving money.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 12:15:22 2023 No.15216907 File: 465 KB, 432x768, fat women.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15216869 mirrors are the most effective weapon

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 12:32:04 2023 No.15216933 >>15216865 maybe they supply Russia with intelligence collected with their spy satellites, in case they're not doing that already

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 12:41:23 2023 No.15216944 File: 117 KB, 2048x623, AC86C57B-F960-4D2D-A2AE-1E21D11450B6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Would you ride on the Thiokol air launched SRB?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 12:56:50 2023 No.15216969 >>15216944 I hardly trust Boing with their run of the mill planes

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 13:04:27 2023 No.15216978 File: 1.57 MB, 1334x750, 2BF9F9C3-31DA-4B32-9E42-A90E8FA23F60.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Avio has ambition

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 13:06:38 2023 No.15216982 >>15216791 not true, there's also uhhhh

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 13:12:50 2023 No.15216990 why did we stage on page 9?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 13:16:21 2023 No.15216996 >>15216727 I tried to watch him a few times. He never talks about stuff we could do with modern technology or actual physical hardware, he runs a science fiction literature channel focused on magic plot devices.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 13:38:12 2023 No.15217027 >>15216978 F9 competitor in 2030-2040?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 13:44:53 2023 No.15217043 >>15216996 Jon Michael Godier is much more interesting, in spite of his clickbaity titles. He often draws attention to interesting new findings that one would tend to miss otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 13:58:00 2023 No.15217061 >>15216746 >scat & diapierfag based feces enjoyer

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 13:59:36 2023 No.15217065 >>15216772 Literally every space probe is autonomous as in preprogrammed rather than controlled in real time. Lurk more.

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 14:07:23 2023 No.15217072
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>>15216753
it's pretty stupid. Recharging is a meme. It's a cobalt-60 RTG. Because it uses such a fucking huge amount of deadly Co-60, more than 1/3 of launch mass is shielding so that it doesn't instantly kill the ground personnel.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 14:12:10 2023 No.15217079 >>15217027 more like more like F1

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 14:17:23 2023 No.15217086

>>15216996
>>15216727
I used to watch him some years ago. I really liked the series about civilizations at the end of the universe or whatever it was called, talking about how a civilization could thrive for an unthinkable amount of time even in the last periods of heat death. Many of his episodes filled me with awe and a nihilistic reminder of how small we are, yet how grand we could possibly become, which gave me energy and spirit to keep on going even when I had a grueling 3hr trip to uni, and some 3 or 4hs back and as a result I could barely afford to sleep in order to study.
I haven't watched anything from him in a while now, although I'm still subscribed I mostly got bored, but I still hold him dearly because he helped me a lot, and in a way still does.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 14:18:15 2023 No.15217088 Is ISS a spaceship?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 14:20:13 2023 No.15217094 >>15217086 ALSO if it wasn't for him I wouldn't have found Sergey Cheremisinov's music which I really like. Sirius is my favorite by far. Used to listen to it while running or pushing hard in whatever I was doing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 14:32:40 2023 No.15217112 Ksp2 released Pog https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWcx8AiV2CM

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 14:52:53 2023 No.15217138

>>15217086
>I really liked the series about civilizations at the end of the universe or whatever it was called, talking about how a civilization could thrive for an unthinkable amount of time even in the last periods of heat death.
That was cool, the idea of farming the last bits of energy spat out by dying black holes to run computers with simulated realities running for eons internally. It's practically a Doctor Who plot, in a good way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 14:59:05 2023 No.15217149 They buffed NTR engines https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX5sa20Nf30

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 14:59:18 2023 No.15217150

>>15217086
I've listened to every episode he's made but everything from the last year or two just feels like background hum at this point. Despite what he might say he is a dogshit writer and his recent episodes suffer from chronic beating around the bush and never saying anything substantial disease. Still good white noise for falling asleep to.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 15:00:04 2023 No.15217151 >>15217149 >1450 isp >7 TWR >Gimbal >Time warp under acceleration wew, NTR is OP now

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 15:01:21 2023 No.15217153 >>15217149 >that wobble under warp and performance issues They really haven't fixed anything.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 15:09:54 2023 No.15217158 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdtIjnpeolE

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 15:12:47 2023 No.15217162 >>15217149 >the stuttering on launch aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 15:16:14 2023 No.15217170 https://elib.dlr.de/188196/1/2.01.03.Hantz_paper.pdf Some paper on Ariane Next/Vega E upper stage reuse

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 15:17:18 2023 No.15217172 File: 1.54 MB, 500x248, angery emoting.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15217149 >those wobbling parts Literally one fucking thing, Jesus Christ.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 15:20:36 2023 No.15217178 File: 3.49 MB, 320x240, 1581316719703.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15217172

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 15:20:39 2023 No.15217179 >>15217149 >he turned on sticky keys Rookie move Tim

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 15:23:40 2023 No.15217182
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>>15217170

Table 5: AN Reusability Masses, 2nd stage
"Theoretical payload, expendable: ~ 21’400 kg
Actual payload, reusable: ~ 4’200 kg
Loss of theoretical payload: ~ 17’200 kg"

Due to the 2nd stage reusability, only ~1/3rd of the mass
(not required for ascent) brought to space is payload. Due to
the 1st stage reusability, the upper stage has to be ~6%
lighter2, resulting in nearly 8 tons less of non-ascent relevant
mass brought to space, which is about half of the current
value. In summary, a fully expandable launcher has a payload
~5 times greater than the current expected one of 4’200 kg.

Table 7: VE Reusability Masses, 3rd stage
3rd stage
Descent fuel 560 kg
Landing Legs & Flaps 1’500 kg
Payload ~ 2’300 kg
Theoretical payload, expandable 3rd stage: ~ 4’360 kg
Actual payload, reusable 3rd stage: ~2’300 kg

Interesting, it makes sense that S2 reuse is more viable for small or medium launchers than for heavy (but not super heavy) launchers

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 15:26:38 2023 No.15217186 >>15217088 No but gateway will be

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 15:27:15 2023 No.15217187 >>15217088 No but Tiangong is

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 15:29:47 2023 No.15217189 >>15217088 No but Skylab was a spaceplane

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 15:35:12 2023 No.15217198 >>15216868 It's easy. All you need is negative-energy matter which literally cannot exist in the universe. Piece of cake.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 15:35:55 2023 No.15217200 File: 115 KB, 809x810, mechanical computer from the Soyuz module 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 15:38:52 2023 No.15217205 >>15217149 Why are they lying to an entire generation of young aspiring engineers? This is an attempt to destroy America

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 15:41:37 2023 No.15217212 >it's early access bro >it's a beta $50 ;)

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 15:42:36 2023 No.15217214 >>15217212 I can't wait to pirate it in a couple months when there's presumably more stuff to do in it.

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 15:44:37 2023 No.15217218
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>>15217200
https://twitter.com/kenshirriff/status/1616849024656572416
Really cool thread on the Globus. The geographic map changed from year to year to depict politically “safe” areas to land. During apollo-soyuz, America was depicted as an acceptable landing zone

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 15:44:53 2023 No.15217220 >>15217214 if it has denuvo you wont be playing shit, poorfag

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 15:46:25 2023 No.15217224 >>15217214 >pirate it It has denuvo. Best start hoping enough people (known for not paying for shit) donate 500$ to empress for a one time crack that will be out of date in a month. :^)

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 15:47:33 2023 No.15217227 >>15217220 >>15217224 Never heard of it, won't worry about it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 15:47:39 2023 No.15217228 >>15217224 >It has denuvo Proof?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 15:50:04 2023 No.15217234 >>15217228 No proof but I expect the worst from their puppeteers at Take 2

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 15:51:35 2023 No.15217238 >>15217234 Well, its Steam page has no mention of denuvo and we're only four days from the release, so I doubt it's going to change.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 15:59:57 2023 No.15217254 >>15217238 Dead Space remake has denuvo and the steam page still neglects to reveal that

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>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 16:09:49 2023 No.15217276 NSF staff all look like fuckin bums. Get a haircut and shave tour hobo beards, jesus you guys look ridiculous

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 16:12:10 2023 No.15217281 >>15217276 I hate that. Can't even watch a flyover in peace without some fat retard being shoved onto the screen.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 16:12:25 2023 No.15217282 >>15217276 Why did they feel the need to shove their faces in the KSC flyover video, its so jarring

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 16:13:12 2023 No.15217283 File: 104 KB, 863x241, HAHAHAHAHAHA.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 16:14:37 2023 No.15217286

>>15217170
>>15217182
Europeans aren't shy about copying SpaceX now that China has been doing it brazenly. Bezos trying to copy everything SpaceX and coming up with half assed shit. It will still be better than non-SpaceX competitors for sure, but its not SpaceX.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 17:08:28 2023 No.15217387 /sfg/ seriously feeling ghostly

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 17:10:37 2023 No.15217392 >>15217072 >It's a cobalt-60 RTG. just get a nuclear reactor. rtg is a meme

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 17:11:16 2023 No.15217395 >>15217387 We're no longer waiting for news. We're waiting for them to finish what they've started and is clearly going to take a while.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 17:14:31 2023 No.15217404 >>15217286 I guess at some point there's no reason to make anything else. It's like copying a car, it just makes sense to have four wheels

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>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 17:19:24 2023 No.15217417 >>15217413 sexo

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 17:20:08 2023 No.15217419 >>15217417 disagrio

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 17:20:19 2023 No.15217420 >>15217072 *2/3 of the launch mass is shielding

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 17:25:16 2023 No.15217430
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>escape velocity of galaxy 500km/s
>supernova explosions 20,000km/s
So the supernova matter fucks off from the galaxy never to be seen again. But also magically stay to produce new stars and planets.
You want me to believe this shit?

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 17:25:57 2023 No.15217431
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>>15217072
>>15217392
>>15217420
All fair comment but Pu-238 *is* a bottleneck that must be bypassed and if you need a lot of shielding with your Co-60 that might nevertheless be acceptable

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 17:26:29 2023 No.15217433 >>15217430 something something dark matter Trust the Science

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>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 17:55:53 2023 No.15217510 >>15217505 reminder that this plane had a mid-air engine failure

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 18:00:15 2023 No.15217521 >>15217430 you need to account for drag from the aether

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 18:06:12 2023 No.15217537 >>15217417 >>15217413 SLS is a sexo rocket and i dont care what anyone says

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 18:19:15 2023 No.15217556 >>15217537 Sexy Launch System

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 18:21:05 2023 No.15217559 File: 53 KB, 450x253, 1676917171572.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >ksp 2 >looks worse than 1 >requires a beast of a PC I'll think about it in 10 years.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 18:26:29 2023 No.15217575 >>15217559 When was the last time you played KSP1?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 18:53:48 2023 No.15217629 it's the calm before the storm

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 18:55:11 2023 No.15217634 >>15217413 Looks like a big R2D2

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 18:56:53 2023 No.15217638 >>15217559 Go ahead, remove your graphical mods for KSP1 and then come back and say that agaysypvin.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 18:57:39 2023 No.15217639 SpaceX should buy KSP

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 18:58:39 2023 No.15217642 >>15217559 >le wacky kerbals front and center fuck off im gonna download a mod that hides them

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 18:58:43 2023 No.15217643 File: 250 KB, 1440x1069, Screenshot_20230220-125657~2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any of you guys going?

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 19:03:45 2023 No.15217654
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>>15217392
it's more power dense than a nuclear reactor which lets you do an interceptor mission
>>15217420
yeah 2/3
>>15217431
I don't think you understand just how radioactive Co-60. The shielding would be about a meter thick.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 19:09:13 2023 No.15217660 >>15217654 >it's more power dense than a nuclear reactor which lets you do an interceptor mission even with the shielding???

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 19:11:32 2023 No.15217665 >>15217639 and then hire the original guy who got fucked over

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>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 19:25:45 2023 No.15217684 >>15217660 it gets ejected while in orbit. It's only to keep the ground personnel safe.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 19:26:25 2023 No.15217685 >>15217643 please don't flex on europoors like this. Needless cruelty.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 19:26:54 2023 No.15217687 >>15217676 cats kill even more.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 19:27:41 2023 No.15217693 >>15217676 >unverified claim from anonymous user somehow I don't believe you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 19:28:31 2023 No.15217695 >>15217642 Yeah why have them up top, I'm so used to them being at the lower right. PUT THEM BACK!

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 19:28:36 2023 No.15217696 >>15217642 They’re cute

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 19:29:37 2023 No.15217698 >>15217676 I dunno why you’d care about animals so stupid they fly into windmills. They’re not even our pets.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 19:31:01 2023 No.15217701 >>15217072 If the worry is just for the ground personnel then why not use a water shield that you drain just before launch?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 19:31:27 2023 No.15217703 >>15217676 Good Total bird death is non-negociable

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 19:32:05 2023 No.15217707 >>15217698 it's related to the recent debate concerning the mass killing of birds during "static fires"

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 19:33:41 2023 No.15217713

>>15217676
>Within the uncertainties of the data used, the estimate means that wind farms killed approximately 20,000 birds in the United States in 2009 but nuclear plants killed about 330,000 and fossil fueled power plants more than 14 million. The paper concludes that further study is needed, but also that fossil fueled power stations appear to pose a much greater threat to birds and avian wildlife than wind farms and nuclear power plants.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0960148112000857

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 19:36:13 2023 No.15217720 >>15217713 >but nuclear plants killed about 330,000 How

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 19:37:48 2023 No.15217726 >>15217720 VAPORIZE BIRDS WITH A RAY GUN

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 19:39:06 2023 No.15217728 >>15217713 >2009 >300,000 for nuclear power kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 19:44:11 2023 No.15217737 >>15217720 hot steamy chicken wings

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 19:45:12 2023 No.15217739 why would a 4channer like me care about wild birds anyway? I spend all my time indoors fapping to anime waifus!

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 19:47:04 2023 No.15217741 >>15217739 youve heard about love birds right? well they are critically endangered and thats why virginity is on the rise now

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>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 19:48:50 2023 No.15217750 File: 67 KB, 506x600, 1676914802037382.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This was posted in a thread that will probably be deleted soon so I'll put it here for discussion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 19:50:20 2023 No.15217753 File: 136 KB, 1200x672, NASA.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15217750 I suspect it will be as real as the warp drive ship NASA was babbling on about designing a few years ago.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 19:50:44 2023 No.15217756 >>15217743 I want TBD but I also hate these parasite infested creatures. It's time to return to sfg orthodoxy and simply remove the atmosphere.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 19:51:58 2023 No.15217758 >>15217713 Need that in terms of bird deaths per kwh produced.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 19:55:59 2023 No.15217764 >>15217758 I think their final figure equates to 0.000000416 total avian deaths per kWh for nuclear power plants, a metric I don't see myself using anytime soon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 19:56:00 2023 No.15217765 >>15217748 >Uranium mine company gets fined 40 000 for killing 40 birbs >Nuclear plant kills 3000 birds, nobody gives a fuck

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 19:59:51 2023 No.15217773 >>15217750 That's torchship material, I don't believe we can materially make torchships now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 20:06:31 2023 No.15217784 File: 437 KB, 993x559, drednorzt_mohole1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15217764 That's a price I'm willing to pay. Actually would birds keep flying into buildings if you put the buildings underground?

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Anonymous Mon Feb 20 20:21:11 2023 No.15217809
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>>15217654
>I don't think you understand just how radioactive Co-60
No, I understand that. But no one has a better power source for such a high delta v mission so if it takes shielding a meter thick to launch it from Earth safely that might be a price worth paying if you have cheap heavy lift boosters

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 20:25:14 2023 No.15217816 >Dinkinesh why

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 20:31:23 2023 No.15217831 File: 43 KB, 811x456, laser-thermal propulsion mission profile.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15217773 45 days to Mars doesn't take a torchship

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 20:33:56 2023 No.15217841 >>15217831 I ain't got time to make the calcs, what is the brachistochrone transfer time?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 20:35:46 2023 No.15217845 >>15217841 somewhere around never going to happen

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 20:37:12 2023 No.15217851

>a large scale nuclear exchange would be probably considerably less bad than the public perception, at least in terms of fallout and climate effects.
>however if people really wanted to they could fairly easily produce an arsenal of cobalt salted bombs that could sterilise the earth of most complex life.

Really gets the noggin joggin

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 20:37:43 2023 No.15217854

>>15217809
NTA but the price isn't in the shielding, it's in the production and encapsulation of 25 kilograms of cobalt-60 which has fallen out of favor in the medical industry(who knew that gamma radiation is highly dangerous?) and couldn't possibly be produced at a scale to enable more than the odd low power interplanetary probe mission. Christopher Morrison who came up with the concept has alluded to this in talks that he has given, which is why he capped it at 100 kW thermal

What he didn't mention is that the moment is that a large quantity of cobalt-60 put into space it's a weapon that could be dispersed over a large city and it violates the Outer Space Treaty. Imagine it being dispersed over the enemy in a war, tens of thousands of radioactive pieces which ensure death for anyone that walks within a few meters of them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 20:38:43 2023 No.15217855 >>15217851 Is there cobalt on Mars?

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 20:44:59 2023 No.15217868

>>15217851
>a large scale nuclear exchange would be probably considerably less bad than the public perception, at least in terms of fallout and climate effects.
People talk about all out nuclear war like it's the end of the world, the truth is that there will be many countries and many inhabited islands that will not get nuked.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 20:52:04 2023 No.15217879 >>15217868 Problem: most of the countries that won't get nuked don't have the capability to sustain an industrial society alone.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 20:55:10 2023 No.15217885 >>15217879 the industry in any country relies on the whole global economy. What's important is that an isolated island has enough to eat and produces electricity until the dust settles.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 20:55:18 2023 No.15217886 >>15217868 >>15217879 >wow isn't great Africa won't get nuked That isn't the silver lining you think it is

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 20:56:53 2023 No.15217892 >>15217886 >implying they can survive without advanced countries

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 21:00:18 2023 No.15217899 File: 208 KB, 323x500, Jupiter III Artist Rendition.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] They took this from you

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 21:02:05 2023 No.15217907 File: 669 KB, 1234x686, comment_1620254225kQ029NC5zvVyRldvyCLORX.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15217899 Good

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 21:02:43 2023 No.15217910 >>15217831 3000 Isp with impulsive maneuvering is Orion territory. It's only not a torch drive because it doesn't need its own power on board.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 21:03:59 2023 No.15217916 >>15217899 Okay.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 21:11:12 2023 No.15217927 >>15217899 Phew, bullet dodged

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 21:14:21 2023 No.15217932 File: 1.50 MB, 4096x2732, Fpa5fJxWIAQzZmK.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] more shielding up

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 21:17:06 2023 No.15217937 File: 865 KB, 1502x2048, Space Achievement.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15217910 Nah, a torchship is >50,000 Isp and high thrust. Even an absurdly light gas core NTR doesn't qualify as one

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 21:18:59 2023 No.15217943 File: 873 KB, 1721x2706, raptor 2.0 195.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] clean engines

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 21:23:00 2023 No.15217955 >>15217707 Fuck birds

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 21:23:28 2023 No.15217956

>>15217943
About time. SX doomed themselves when they were putting cute little memes all over their engines while they were still blowing up and far from orbital flight.
Like astra going with huge googley eyes on the flight controller monitor. Don’t do that cocky shit till you’ve made it

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 21:25:17 2023 No.15217960 >>15217885 >the industry in any country relies on the whole global economy Nope. Globalism is a meme

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 21:30:39 2023 No.15217975 >>15216933 supposedly it's weapons and ammo

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 21:33:54 2023 No.15217979 >>15217784 Tortoises would fall in.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 21:34:44 2023 No.15217980 >>15217979 >tortoises on Mars

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 21:35:18 2023 No.15217981 >muh birds Booster was making shitloads of sounds before static fire, if birds didn't escape during that, that's on them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 21:35:31 2023 No.15217982 >>15217642 but...they're so wacky :((

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 21:35:50 2023 No.15217985 >>15217943 puts my penis inside of it

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 21:36:59 2023 No.15217987 >>15217743 now just imagine the amount of birds starship will kill. even more awful

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 21:38:03 2023 No.15217989 File: 66 KB, 951x729, FpWe_9VWIAEPAaM.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] pov: you said Starship is a spaceplane

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 21:40:02 2023 No.15217994 >>15217989 Tighten me elon. Fucking tighten me up

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 21:46:53 2023 No.15218005 >>15217987 why are there huge waitlists for starlink?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 21:47:03 2023 No.15218006 >>15217932 >they've welded stairs that go to the inside >all those hatches I can't help but love the evolution of this crazy contraption

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 21:47:14 2023 No.15218007
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>>15217879
The capitals and industrial bases of any country that could become a hegemony after the major powers got nuked are already targeted. While most of Africa would be untouched, most, if not all, South American and Asian countries would have some nuked lobbed their way. The U.S. and Russia have plenty of warheads to spare for this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 21:50:14 2023 No.15218011 >>15218005 oops, didnt mean to reply to anyone

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 21:53:29 2023 No.15218018 >>15218005 They don't want people ditching if they can't deliver enough bandwidth to paying customers.

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 21:56:35 2023 No.15218025

>>15218007
>most, if not all, South American and Asian countries would have some nuked lobbed their way
Why do you say this? What would the US or Russia gain from nuking the likes of Ecuador or Bangladesh? No one gains anything from lobbing nukes at neutral powers, and any country not allies or enemies of one of the combatants will be hesitant to jump headfirst into a nuclear war.

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 21:56:52 2023 No.15218027

>>15218005
Because 1) current demand is higher than current cell capacity in the US 2) bandwidth allocation is limited by hardware on satellite 3) RV plan exists where you dont have to wait, but the service is degraded because priority is given to residentials

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 21:58:08 2023 No.15218030 i always wondered what happened with the lance bass thing. turns out hollywood execs didnt couldnt get the money for the mission. https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/02/lance-bass-was-kicked-off-a-russian-spaceflight-two-decades-ago-now-hes-back/

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 21:58:52 2023 No.15218032 >>15217413 mmm, greebles

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:01:21 2023 No.15218039 >>15218018 apparently they have a shitty version called "Best Effort" available, which gives you like 200mbps, which is more than enough for alot of desperate people

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:02:07 2023 No.15218040 >>15217784 >Actually would birds keep flying into buildings if you put the buildings underground? We'll have to train them to do it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:03:12 2023 No.15218045 >>15217899 based thing takers

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:03:45 2023 No.15218046 >>15218039 Shit, I have home 5G that tops out at about 75Mbps and that's enough for me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:04:37 2023 No.15218048 >>15218039 From what I've heard the issue isn't bandwidth or latency so much as uptime.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:06:14 2023 No.15218054 >>15218046 My home 4G tops out at 150Mbps, it is some weird hybrid with DSL though for more stability.

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:06:27 2023 No.15218058

>>15218025
Because in a post nuclear war world, those countries could arise to be dominant powers. Perhaps Ecuador wouldn't catch a nuke but Brazil, Argentina, and Chile are all getting nuked. In a world where Russia, China and the U.S.all have been nuked, someone will try to step into the power vacuum and become the new superpower. The existing superpowers want to ensure everyone is starting for a position as bad, if not worse, than their own. They want to.eventually regain their positions as superpowers again. Anyone who could stand in their way, even theoretically, gets nuked.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:07:41 2023 No.15218063 >>15218048 Should improve as the constellation gets denser.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:10:50 2023 No.15218068 why did india ban starlink anyway? corruption?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:19:31 2023 No.15218088 >>15218068 Indians being Indians

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:24:00 2023 No.15218104 >>15217956 they put small red hats on this engine

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:25:01 2023 No.15218109 >>15217975 Yeah but he asked how China can help from a space perspective >>15217960 source?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:25:06 2023 No.15218110 >>15218068 Because the ruling party controls all telecommunications and they don't want to lose that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:26:52 2023 No.15218118 >>15218007 what about NZ? Even if it has a few cities nuked it'll be alright. Just look at the Japanese city that was nuked

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:27:19 2023 No.15218119 >>15218068 India's government has been drifting towards authoritarianism for a while now and has been clamping down on dissent expressed over the internet using "emergency" powers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:28:50 2023 No.15218126 >>15218046 when boasting please have respect for people such as myself that have an internet speed of 5 Mbps

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:30:44 2023 No.15218131 >>15218118 yeah it'll be fine. me and my bf are moving out to a smaller town in nz soon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:30:47 2023 No.15218132 >>15218126 Do you live in Africa?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:32:37 2023 No.15218138 >>15218132 Yugoslavia

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:33:36 2023 No.15218141 >>15218068 elon redeemed the codes :-(

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:35:35 2023 No.15218147 >>15218068 They want local production before being allowed to sell. Its a stupid policy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:37:47 2023 No.15218155 >>15217784 You can build a mohole in Surviving Mars. Kinda cool

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:38:58 2023 No.15218157 >>15218068 >why don’t all countries want foreign corporations in their land

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:41:21 2023 No.15218161 >>15218068 India had some bad experiences with American corporations. Remember the seeds thing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:42:03 2023 No.15218163 >>15218161 i dont think anyone likes monsanto

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:44:00 2023 No.15218168

>>15218157
>why don't Indians realize they'll never build a successful competitor to Star in 100 years and they're only hurting themselves

seriously, is there some boss Indian thinking "what this country needs is for our people to be poorer and more ignorant"? if so, he's doing a bang up job so far!

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:45:00 2023 No.15218171 >>15218168 Starlink*

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:45:18 2023 No.15218172 >>15218168 they do have a competitor: oneweb. they own 51% of the company or something.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:47:12 2023 No.15218177 >>15218147 It worked for them in pharma. Don't know what is the point of moving final assembly of terminals to India.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:48:29 2023 No.15218182 >>15218177 jobs

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:56:10 2023 No.15218196 >>15218172 >oneweb >successful >competitor

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 22:59:51 2023 No.15218206
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>>15218118
>>15218131
>Just look at the Japanese city that was nuked
Japan got rebuilt with the help of the US, which was then at the height of its power, to serve as a bulwark against the USSR. No one is helping NZ if its cities catch nukes, they would be entirely on their own i.e. Maori cannibal time

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 23:00:23 2023 No.15218207 >>15218126 You sound like a faggot

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 23:06:40 2023 No.15218217
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>>15218007
>>15218058
This anon knows what's up. I'll add that during the Cold War the USSR targeted the Republic of Ireland, which was pointedly neutral and outside NATO, with nukes
https://www.historyireland.com/envisaging-unthinkable-planning-armageddon-1950s-ireland/

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 23:10:24 2023 No.15218225 >>15218058 >The existing superpowers want to ensure everyone is starting for a position as bad, if not worse, than their own. this sounds too vicious to be true

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 23:15:16 2023 No.15218237 >>15218225 america didnt get to where it is now by being nice

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 23:19:13 2023 No.15218245 https://twitter.com/JoeTegtmeyer/status/1627798959581286400

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 23:19:53 2023 No.15218246 >>15217979 Sounds like an ingenious way to catch turtles.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 23:20:20 2023 No.15218249 File: 80 KB, 775x772, Simrad image intensif mask.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15218225 Releasing bioweapons during/after a full scale exchange sounds 'too vicious to be true' but that would happen too

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 23:22:07 2023 No.15218253 >>15218237 redpilling. One day we will annihilate ourselves

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 23:22:36 2023 No.15218256 >>15218245 i didnt realize there was a boring site in texas

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 23:24:15 2023 No.15218257

>>15218217
>t the height of the Cold War it was thought that the Soviet Union had at least four targets for nuclear weapons on the island of Ireland
>it was thought
Sounds like a convenient thing to tell the Irish considering what was happening with the Troubles. Some British report saying "hey you totally need us for defense since they're going to nuke you even if you're neutral" is hardly trustworthy imo.

Also, there's a massive difference between Cold War stockpiles and what exists today. Besides maybe the US and Russia, no one has the extra strategic nukes and ICBMs to lob them at anyone just for the hell of it. Certainly not to the extent where they'd be glassing entire countries based on a nebulous notion of future competition. That's also an amazing way to ensure that literally everyone in the world hates you; whatever happens after the war ends, they won't forget that and your country's reputation would be completely fucked for at least the next century.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 23:26:32 2023 No.15218263 File: 601 KB, 3400x2400, nuclear-warhead-stockpiles.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15218257 forgot pic rel

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 23:27:01 2023 No.15218264 >>15218245 When will they build a boring machine that isn’t retardedly small?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 23:27:56 2023 No.15218265 >>15218264 Maybe they need an exciting machine.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 23:28:53 2023 No.15218268 >>15218263 >India >Pakistan >South Africa So glad the worlds most retarded retards have nukes

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 23:29:39 2023 No.15218270 in the post apocalyptic, internal combustion engine based world, the Swiss will make bloodbags out of whoever nuked them

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 23:32:12 2023 No.15218275 >>15218268 South Africa gave theres up when (as in, right before) apartheid ended.

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 23:34:03 2023 No.15218280
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>>15218257
Nuking Ireland makes perfect sense; you don't want an untouched country, an unsinkable aircraft carrier, falling into the hands of what remains of the US and UK. Northern Ireland was going to be bombed anyway as it's part of the UK so why not bomb the Republic? Mercy? States don't think like that.

Anonymous Mon Feb 20 23:38:01 2023 No.15218287

>>15218280
Fair point, I hadn't thought of that. Still, the logic for nuking Ireland can't be extended to other neutral countries since in most cases they won't be used to house troops belonging to combatants. It's an entirely distinct issue from the argument that states would waste resources nuking the likes of Chile just to level the post-war playing field.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 23:53:19 2023 No.15218317 File: 134 KB, 1399x931, 1676937126.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15218264 How is it "retardedly small"? It can fit a freight car if needed, what more do you need to field a product?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 23:56:29 2023 No.15218322 >>15218317 >say goodbye to soul destroying traffic >say hello to soul destroying claustrophobic traffic where if your car breaks down in the middle you are fucked

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 23:58:52 2023 No.15218325 >>15218322 >train breaks down in the middle of tunnel and you're fucked Therefore trains should not be built underground? Low IQ takes is tiring

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 20 23:59:26 2023 No.15218328 >>15218322 Why do people who make comments on the internet always think that everyone else has the competency level of an infomercial boomer?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 00:02:42 2023 No.15218332 >>15218325 >tunnel has emergency maintenance shaft and exits This is not the comparison you think it is

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 00:04:13 2023 No.15218334 >>15218328 zingers are easier to write than to assume people have done basic core competency in building those engineering architecture

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 00:12:42 2023 No.15218348

>>15218317
You literally don’t know anything about civil engineer or infrastructure. Fuck, I have walked through minor, short tunnels that were wider than that and they felt a bit cramped. Not that tunnels that size aren’t useful, but only being able to do tunnels that size is a useless novelty.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 00:15:55 2023 No.15218352 File: 105 KB, 469x258, Falcon 1 Air.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hate Murder Destruction

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 00:16:10 2023 No.15218353 File: 1005 KB, 1080x1920, Screenshot_20230221-104531.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15217218 Yass

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 00:16:57 2023 No.15218355 File: 170 KB, 469x302, Killme.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15218352

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 00:29:28 2023 No.15218372 File: 128 KB, 354x423, FcoMiGGagAIp0m-.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >rockets still wobble all over the fuck in KSP2

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 00:35:04 2023 No.15218378

>>15218348
https://electrek.co/2023/01/11/tesla-vehicles-moved-100k-people-inside-boring-company-tunnels-ces/

100K people rode in it at the last convention center in just few days.

Sorry but your statement runs counter to real world usage. Unless you're one of those conspiracy theorists who think its all fake and fraud.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 00:38:42 2023 No.15218384

>>15218372
I'll probably buy it but it's objectively worse than KSP 1 in terms of feature and worse than modded KSP in pretty much every way imaginable.
>no T/W ratio UI for some ungodly reason
>no reentry aerodynamics
>solid parts still wobble, no autostruts, <30 FPS with a complex rocket during launch on a RTX 4080
>$50 for a game not even close to being finished and delivers on none of their promises
>but we heckin' added a new gas cooled nuclear engine with a gazillion ISP #teamspace #womeninspace

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 00:40:58 2023 No.15218388

>>15218378
God it’s always so tedious arguing with a 1. Especially one who is clearly not experienced with the real world.
Hey, smooth brain. Do you think maybe there’s a variety of use cases for tunnels besides memeloops? Do you think maybe that’s where the vast majority of work, contracts and money is? It’s literally just a Vegas novelty.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 00:41:33 2023 No.15218389 >>15218384 So basically it's a dev build and they're using consumers for bug testing

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 00:41:53 2023 No.15218391 >>15218384 >>no T/W ratio UI for some ungodly reason >>no reentry aerodynamics >>solid parts still wobble, no autostruts, <30 FPS with a complex rocket during launch on a RTX 4080 Fuck its awful

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 00:42:40 2023 No.15218396 File: 51 KB, 1058x740, AirlaunchedDIamant.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Vulcan launched Diamant

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 00:45:27 2023 No.15218400 >>15217980 But there are birds on Mars?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 00:47:00 2023 No.15218402 >>15218400 No. We'll have to import some so that Starship can deafen them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 00:50:00 2023 No.15218406 >>15218388 They're making it into a 40+ mile/55+ stations city-wide loop system right now. You can continue be a conspiracy theorist, but its already happening. Its already been approved now. Regardless of you personal feelings

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 00:50:42 2023 No.15218408 File: 14 KB, 556x712, fuck_urf.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Recommend me some good sci-fi books, lads. I've already read Blindsight, Rama, lots of stuff from Heinlein, Weir's books.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 00:54:32 2023 No.15218415 File: 349 KB, 1600x1200, OneJob.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ukraine has ONE JOB after they win this shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 00:54:57 2023 No.15218417 File: 299 KB, 1200x1044, Chris Moore spaceplane.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15218408 https://sfbook.com/kinsman.htm

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 00:56:33 2023 No.15218420

>>15218257
After a fullscale nuclear war, no one is going to like any of the major nuclear powers, so that's not a concern. And you don't need to nuke every square inch of a country, just its capital and a few major sites of important infrastructure. Without a functioning global economy, no one in South America is getting an industrial seaport back online after it's been nuked.
I get that people outside of North America and Europe have had this smug, safe feeling that one day the big powers would nuke each other and everyone else would be left alone, but that's not how things work. Those countries got to the top by kicking everyone else in the teeth. They're not suddenly going to be nice in a nuclear war and risk those they've abused for centuries arising to become major powers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 00:57:27 2023 No.15218421 >>15218406 Again, call me when they make a boring machine that can and will be used for literally anything else. Lol. Lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 00:58:26 2023 No.15218426 I've recently been recommended Delta-V and Critical mass by Daniel Suarez. Supposed to be a good bit of hard sci-fi about the emergence of off world industry. https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/40859000

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 00:59:27 2023 No.15218428 >>15218408 >>15218426 Shit, forgot to link the post.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:11:24 2023 No.15218442 >>15218317 The Northern line tunnels have a 12ft diameter, so you could use this for a metro.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:11:43 2023 No.15218444
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>>15218417
I'm convinced that spaceplanes only got as much traction as they did because they look cool, like a proper spaceship. Capsules look kind of dorky and retarded no matter how you slice it. Beamed propulsion is even worse.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:13:07 2023 No.15218446 File: 141 KB, 800x600, Why_London_Underground_is_nicknamed_The_Tube.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15218442

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:13:13 2023 No.15218447 >>15218421 Call me when you invent a warp drive that can go anywhere in the universe in a blink of an eye, anything else is a fraud and fake

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:15:46 2023 No.15218452

>>15218406
If you're talking about Hyperloop, what's built in Vegas doesn't remotely qualify. It's a car tunnel. It might be novel if they had Teslas that drive through the tunnel using autopilot but it's humans driving like a taxi service. It's a controlled environment so it should be able to drive autonomously perfectly, but that still wouldn't be a Hyperloop. The drive-in lanes at my bank are more Hyperloop than the Vegas tunnel.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:15:49 2023 No.15218453 >>15218444 Correct, vertically-designed spacecraft don't feel "cool" to imagine yourself walking around in. Horizontally-designed spacecraft do

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:18:32 2023 No.15218457

>>15218452
The system works. Are you saying its fake? Its working, its been used by 100K people in just ~4-5 days of convention center event. Automation is another thing entirely. The system does not need automation to operate. Its obviously an efficient upgrade going forward, but it works RIGHT NOW. Thats the point.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:19:20 2023 No.15218459 File: 39 KB, 506x548, zubrin check.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15218444

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:20:19 2023 No.15218460 >>15218453 Star Trek finally added to the public consciousness about the nature of space craft when they came out with the Borg cube. Faster than anything the Federation built but but looks like an oil refinery had sex with Kowloon City.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:22:27 2023 No.15218463

>>15218457
I'm not saying it is fake, I'm saying it's not Hyperloop. Words have meanings and unless you're the public health establishment, you can just change words to have different meanings whenever you want.
Just to be 100% clear, do you or do you not consider the Vegas tunnel to be a Hyperloop? Don't be a coward who deflects. Yes or no. No bullshit spin.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:23:39 2023 No.15218464 >>15218463 No shit its not hyperloop. Its LOOP, not hyperloop. Loops are city transportation. Hyperloop is city<>city, state<>state transportation system. The loop is for inner cities.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:25:05 2023 No.15218465 File: 202 KB, 1280x962, meme chaser.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15218453 Spaceplanes will win in the end

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:25:38 2023 No.15218467 File: 105 KB, 1034x607, Moonport by Jim Powers 1956.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Imagine how much more convivial /sfg/ would be if Musk-1s became Musk-2s

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:28:08 2023 No.15218470
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>>15218457
It's kind of a gimmick, like those airport monorails.

cheap tunnels are certainly useful and could open a whole new world of uses, but the whole car tunnel buisness model just seems to be based around selling Teslas instead of providing a rational capability.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:31:24 2023 No.15218478 File: 13 KB, 588x330, star trek tos orbit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15218460 idk the OG Starship Enterprise gets points from me for not being a streamlined rocketship as was common in media up till then

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:33:58 2023 No.15218482
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>>15218470
The small 3 station las vegas convention center tunnel has ~4400pph. Enough to move ~27K in a day. Thats enough for the convention center.

The larger 40+ miles 55 station expansion will have 50K+ PPH.

You're a retard because you cannot think of a real metric for why its bad. All metrics point towards boring tunnel being a very efficient, fast, superior way of moving people around the cities.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:34:09 2023 No.15218484 realistically, how long until spacex stops being cool and trying to build a better future and just becomes another rent seeking shithole like boeing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:35:18 2023 No.15218486 >>15218484 after we make it to the mars with 1+ million people, then they'll rest and stop trying because thats how its supposed to be.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:35:39 2023 No.15218488 >>15218486 that's 100+ years in the future though

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:36:26 2023 No.15218490 >>15218488 Theres your answer

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:38:49 2023 No.15218494 File: 287 KB, 640x640, WotW.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15218408 War of the Worlds is both overrated and underrated at the same time

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:39:35 2023 No.15218497 >>15218490 i suspect it'll turn to shit long before then. maybe in 20-40 years, especially if elon is no longer at the helm or spacex goes public.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:40:31 2023 No.15218500 >>15218463 >I'm saying it's not Hyperloop Who said it was?

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:41:10 2023 No.15218501

>>15218497
It will depend on SpaceX's ambitions. If they have ambitions, then they will stay ahead of the pack. If they dont have ambition, then they'll neuter themselves.

Furthermore, to complicate things, they may be forced to neuter themselves just so they dont get get broken up by the government, if they become too successful.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:42:11 2023 No.15218504 >>15217899 >Expendable rockets.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:43:23 2023 No.15218507 >>15218482 so 200 Teslas will fly through the tunnel a minute? you are being misleading by comparing to total passenger use to throughput here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:44:28 2023 No.15218508 >>15218126 You are Starlink's target audience. I just wanted something cheaper than Comcast so I could increase my hobby budget.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:49:25 2023 No.15218515

>>15218447
>>15218457
>>15218482
You’re so obviously a moron who latches onto musk to feel intelligent kek.

Again, the boring company should continue to work on wider boring machines if they want to actually revolutionise tunnelology. Which they can definitely do. But their current tunnels are extremely limited in use. You’re obviously convinced everyone here is some sort of thunderfag so it’ll just go over your head though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:49:42 2023 No.15218518 >>15218494 I would love a movie that actually takes place in ~1890-1910 with WW1 tech

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:50:23 2023 No.15218519

>>15218507
Throughput vs passenger use.

Just like how your internet is sold as 1Gbps but you only use an average of ~20 Kbps while you browse at any given moment. 27000/8 hour shift = 3375pph. Its still packed.

200 Tesla x 3 people x 60 minute = 36,000 passengers per hour.
It will be closer to 300 Tesla for max output of ~54000 pph.

But then again, its 300 Teslas over 40 miles. Roughly 1 Tesla every 214 meter. Tesla cars are ~5 meters in length. 214/5 meter ~= 43 car length of space in between. There's plenty of room to scale too for max throughout for specific tunnel/exit node as well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:51:37 2023 No.15218524 >>15218515 You havent given any actual reason other than "its too small, it cant give me blowjob!!! so its fraud"

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:54:31 2023 No.15218528 >>15218524 Yeah it is too small. Cry about it. Memeloops are all it is currently able to do. Actually it can also do some utility work, which is not of being bad

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:56:44 2023 No.15218534 >>15218515 peak midwit

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 01:59:15 2023 No.15218542

>>15218519
Also if the car goes ~55mph avg, then there's 8 seconds reaction time between cars. Thats more than enough to stop a car. On highway there's a "2 second rule" In other words, ~50 meters or ~10 car length distance between you and others. Within the tunnel its 8 seconds or 43 car length distance

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 02:01:47 2023 No.15218547 >>15218542 Thats just one tunnel lane too. Suppose they build a parallel tunnel, then the pph could double. They could build a dozen of them if cities need it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 02:03:47 2023 No.15218552 >>15218547 >>15218542 Wow, so if the tunnel was wider it would be more efficient? Maybe they could do that by building a wider boring machine!

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 02:05:05 2023 No.15218555 >>15218552 Just park two next to each other and let them run in tandem.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 02:11:35 2023 No.15218565

>>15218552
>>15218555
How much wider do you need? Its already perfect for a single car @ 2meter diameter. If you double it to 4 meter tunnel digging machine, the time it takes to dig by that much, the tunnel digging machine would have to be extra complex, costly, etc.
The volume gained would be wasted mostly because the two lane cars wouldnt be able to use the upper volume efficiently. So you gain the complexity/cost/time/etc but you're only able to utilize 25% of the volume.

>What about putting a bus?
Now you've turned the system into a slow piece of shit where everyone now has to wait for the bus to make a stop at every station. Defeating the entire purpose of a fast point2point transportation that can be called on demand.

There's no benefit to it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 02:11:38 2023 No.15218566 How will the dead be treated on Mars?

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 02:12:11 2023 No.15218567

>>15218552
And if Starship was 18m it'd be more efficient. They decided on a size that was both big enough to get the job done and also small enough to be feasible and started development with that. They can always scale a small but successful design up later, but they can't scale a design down if they go bankrupt before it can start to produce revenue.

The minimum practical size for a tunnel is the width of a car with some leeway on either side, so they started there. Once it proves itself, maybe they'll scale up or maybe they'll find that it's more practical to just send two or three parallel smaller borers since all the vertical space dug by a larger diameter machine would be superfluous and probably increase the need for support structures.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 02:12:19 2023 No.15218568 >>15218566 Chemically

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 02:12:50 2023 No.15218569 [DELETED]

>>15218552
Not that Anon but would you kindly shut the fuck up and quit being so ignorant? Maybe do some elementary school activity where you have a paper cut out of cars and circles of different sizes and see how they fit while the radius is increased, which greatly increases tunneling speed and project costs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 02:15:03 2023 No.15218572 >>15218565 Plus another reason for 2m tunnel is the machine can be transported in 1 piece on top of a truck on the state highways and be transported/handled/installed for use in easy fast/easy fashion too.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 02:15:46 2023 No.15218574

>>15218565
The point is to use the tunnel boring machines to bore tunnels for OTHER FUCKING USES! So that you can take on a variety of contracts and do a variety of work in a variety of places. 1 single use is a niche product, there’s more to tunnels than the fucking loop. Yes, there would be a huge demand for a cheap boring service but only having one size really limits the work that can be done.
To argue against myself, however, I could see it being very hard to get contracts as an American company in a lot of the world. Infrastructure projects trend towards local everything for political and economic reasons

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 02:19:51 2023 No.15218577

>>15218574
Tunnel boring contracts are nonexistent as it is due to extreme cost/speed/engineering challenges/etc. The moderate 2m form factor is to make a usable system thats easy to swallow. You could argue that Boring Company should build a 100 meter tunnel digging machine to get all the contracts, but who would fucking pay for it? No one. Not a god damn soul in this neck of the galaxy would pay for such a machine, let alone be able to build it in a timely/cost efficient manner.
The point is, 2meter is more than useful for 90% of the needs. To transport people, goods, as utility tunnels, as drains, etc.

Fundamentally the viability of the company rests upon how fast they can build tunnels and how cheap for a given market, not how large they can dig with infinite budget and infinite time for infinite usage.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 02:21:30 2023 No.15218583 File: 243 KB, 1296x864, FpQRp5XX0AAE-j1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 02:24:35 2023 No.15218591 File: 1.30 MB, 3072x2304, Why_London_Underground_is_nicknamed_The_Tube.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15218332 >tunnel has emergency maintenance shaft and exits

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 02:36:29 2023 No.15218621 >>15217149 >all that fucking WOBBLE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FUCK

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 02:37:39 2023 No.15218624 !!

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 02:43:29 2023 No.15218636

Fuck a starship launch, I miss when Berger was dropping absolute bombshells about blue origin or oldspace shenanigans every fucking week. It feels like he doesn’t really care to report with these ‘inside scoops’ anymore (or there’s simply nothing going on)
Is he writing a new book or something? He must be preoccupied. But at the same time, Foust/Davenport/Sheetz have also been quiet

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 02:59:21 2023 No.15218659 File: 32 KB, 598x462, 288A5DDA-C817-4080-ABDF-93B82F822818.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Russian ICBM test failed due to second stage issue

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 03:08:32 2023 No.15218672 >>15218659 The irony is that russian second stages used to be super reliable. Now they don’t even work. Hahahahhhahhahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhahah fuck russia

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 03:13:11 2023 No.15218682 >>15218636 He''s hinted that he's writing a book on F9 development era. Also BO/old space are moving at snail's pace and has nothing new or interesting to report on. The only thing that matters right now is Starship.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 03:18:23 2023 No.15218692 >>15218566 Super critical water oxidation

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 03:19:29 2023 No.15218695 >>15218659 >north korea has more reliable ICBMs than russia What is this timeline

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 03:19:35 2023 No.15218696
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>>15218672
Meanwhile, in actual history, the Proton had more early failures because of issues with the second stage than any other source, and four of the Zenit's first five failures were due to problems with the second stage.

If you're going to laugh at something, laugh at the fact that Russia's most modern super missile is still propelled used NTO/UDMH.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 03:22:50 2023 No.15218703

>>15218696
>If you're going to laugh at something, laugh at the fact that Russia's most modern super missile is still propelled used NTO/UDMH.
If you're optimizing for throw weight per missile, there's no other choice. It's not like Russia's bad at solid fuel rocketry.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 03:26:57 2023 No.15218707 >>15218415 >Ukraine >winning Are you blind or are you just denying the harsh reality?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 03:29:40 2023 No.15218716 >>15218707 Xepcoh

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 03:30:15 2023 No.15218718 >>15218707 good job not taking this bait, everyone

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 03:38:33 2023 No.15218734 >>15218659 russia isnt the only one that has problems with their missiles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground-Based_Midcourse_Defense all the good talent probably goes into spaceflight because it's the most interesting and fun

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 03:43:42 2023 No.15218743 >>15218734 Tbh that’s an anti-ICBM missile. Four of them have a 97% effectiveness. Infinitely harder than an ICBM like Satan II

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 03:49:22 2023 No.15218748 >>15218743 i looked it up, the US has only had 1 test of their upcoming icbm. it blew up a few seconds after launch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGM-35_Sentinel#Testing

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 03:51:06 2023 No.15218750 >>15218748 Nope, that was the failure of a Minotaur II suborbital launcher. It was a test of the MIRVs for America’s new ICBM. Those MIRVs never failed because the Minotaur II exploded

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 03:51:27 2023 No.15218751 >>15218734 I feel like a lot of talent that could have gone into engineering, has gone into developing retarded shit like video games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 03:52:37 2023 No.15218754 >>15218751 software consumed the world

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 03:52:51 2023 No.15218755 >>15218751 Sad if true considering the modern state of the video game industry

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 03:58:17 2023 No.15218762 >>15218415 Good job for not taking the bait, everyone

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 03:58:47 2023 No.15218763 File: 278 KB, 1344x472, the day after world war iii zuckerman.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15218025 >>15218058 >>15218225

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 04:02:25 2023 No.15218767

>>15218754
>>15218755
Triple A studios have gone to shit mostly because of the retarded management. But there are tons of indie games being released constantly. It's great if you are addicted to Vampire Survivors, but other than that, it's just a complete waste of man hours. Do we really need 20 different brands of smartphones, that all look and perform the same, and release a "new" version every year? Should there really be 50 different social media apps, that are all the same garbage? Total fucking waste.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 04:05:12 2023 No.15218771 >>15218762 >spaceflight by a respectable but underfunded company is bait Sure

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 04:05:39 2023 No.15218772

>>15218751
Moreso consumer/enterprise software in general, but I'd agree. There's still plenty of very intelligent people in aerospace, but it's unlikely to make you rich like software. This leads to the field missing out on a lot of people who are primarily compensation-driven.

For the sake of my own income, I selfishly hope that increasing adoption of space hardware in the tech world will change things, but that's gonna take time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 04:06:09 2023 No.15218773 >>15218771 anon took the bait

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 04:07:01 2023 No.15218774

>>15218763
Interesting read, but I don't know which side of the argument that's supposed to agree with. Keeping weapons in reserve certainly makes more sense than preemptively nuking neutral countries. That also doesn't address the argument that states will nuke neutral countries in order to level the playing field.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 04:14:39 2023 No.15218785

>>15217430
Supernova gas diffuses to be equivalent density to interstellar medium pretty quickly, which means you have a gas bubble pushing against more gas, which means the velocity slows down after a few dozen lightyears to sub-escape velocity. Also, the ram effect of the bubble is what causes interstellar gas to form dense regions which form stars.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 04:14:52 2023 No.15218786 >>15218772 It's not just the amount of money. You still need a degree to get an engineering job, but if you are smart, you can just lrn2code and get a software job and start earning right away, without having to pay off student debt.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 04:16:03 2023 No.15218787 >>15217431 Use americium instead of cobalt or plutonium.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 04:23:28 2023 No.15218797 >>15217910 Orion isn't good enough to qualify as a torch drive. Orion was insane, but torch drives are beyond insane.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 04:25:48 2023 No.15218799 >>15218007 Getting nuked is a nothingburger.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 04:30:50 2023 No.15218805

>>15218225
It's a necessary contingency. As soon as someone has the thought, "their loss is our gain," people are going to try to take advantage of the situation and make things worse. The goal of such a contingency plan is to make opportunism a bad idea -- which in turn, makes nuclear war less likely, because it's going to continue to be in everyone's best interest to make sure it doesn't happen.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 04:34:46 2023 No.15218809

>>15218372
>>15218384
>>15218391
IIRC the lead dev on KSP2 said that rocket wobble is a feature he wanted in the game. So I guess KSP2 is permanently fucked until someone writes a mod to fix this retard's design choice.
If you really want spaghetti rockets because you're a fag who hates people who like to build large and complex vehicles, make it a toggleable option instead of a built in characteristic of your sequel to the game which made a point of FIXING wobbly rockets on PURPOSE because everyone HATED it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 04:36:48 2023 No.15218812 >>15218408 Read the Culture series but with the knowledge that the author was actually extremely cynical about communism and the eponymous Culture is a scathing critique of utopian communism in disguise

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 04:42:34 2023 No.15218814

>>15218515
If they can fit a train down those tunnels it's unironically good enough to sell as a product for 90% of important applications. Maybe in the future they build a bigger TBM, but they'll be a successful business boring out subway lines and shit in hundreds of cities first.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 04:45:12 2023 No.15218818

>>15218552
Digging two tunnels side by side excavates less than half of the total material you'd excavate from a tunnel with twice the width, dumbass. You dig small tunnels faster, and more importantly, they avoid needing to develop, build, supply and maintain a new double wide TBM this way.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 05:07:53 2023 No.15218845 >>15218809 if it's artificially added, and not inherent to the physics engine, it's probably a setting that can be turned off or modded off

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>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 05:16:33 2023 No.15218856 >>15218851 MaxQute!

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 05:35:39 2023 No.15218867 >>15218384 >it's objectively worse than KSP 1 in terms of feature and worse than modded KSP in pretty much every way imaginable You should have expected this when they announced KSP2 being Early Access.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 05:39:49 2023 No.15218871 >>15218384 why would you buy it? you're incenting them to never improve it. imagine paying $50 for this garbage. if I were the devs i'd take the money and fuck off lmao, bunch of gullible manchildren will buy this shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 05:40:49 2023 No.15218874 >>15218389 Not unlike every product God-king Elon Musk squirts out his diarrhea ass

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 05:56:34 2023 No.15218885

https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/rockets/a22813/blue-origin-announces-new-glenn-rocket/
>New Glenn will have a booster capable of vertical landings, stand nearly as tall as the Saturn V, and Blue Origin plans to fly the monster before the decade is out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 06:05:35 2023 No.15218898 >>15218885 fanfiction, tags: [rockets], [BezosxMusk], [M/M], [O'neill cylinders], [lemon], [phallic], [can't get it up], [dildo], [suborbital], [blue balls], [angst], [AU]

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 06:11:28 2023 No.15218904 >>15218885 >before the decade is out they better hurry, only seven years left!

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 06:13:39 2023 No.15218907 File: 108 KB, 1280x714, 1280px-Falcon9_rocket_family.svg.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does anyone have this chart but with the payloads to LEO at the top?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 06:17:02 2023 No.15218912 >>15218904 The article is 7 years old

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 06:22:03 2023 No.15218917 >>15218912 they didn't say which decade

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 06:24:56 2023 No.15218919 >>15218885 >nearly as tall as the Saturn V So, smaller than starship

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 06:27:24 2023 No.15218923 >>15218919 Much smallet, puny even. That third stage is never happening lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 06:55:47 2023 No.15218961 >>15218907 Just for dragon For most payloads For all payloads For all payloads in reusable mode For all payloads in reusable mode and the spooky sats

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 07:03:57 2023 No.15218972 >>15218408 Alastair Reynolds Frederik Pohl Joe Haldeman

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 07:09:35 2023 No.15218982 >>15218518 War of the Worlds: The True Story If you haven't seen it already uses mix of CGI and WWI Pathé footage into fake documentary

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 07:52:21 2023 No.15219020 I love staw wawrs

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>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 08:00:03 2023 No.15219034 >>15219024 How much weight would it add if you sugarcoated Starship? Would it make caramel during reentry?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 08:01:39 2023 No.15219037 >>15219034 >Would it make caramel during reentry? Briefly

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 08:01:41 2023 No.15219038 >>15219034 New space bussiness idea: Rocket Caramel

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 08:08:21 2023 No.15219044 >>15218567 Musk has said that 9m was a mistake in retrospect. Not because it was too small, but because it was too big. He'd have made it smaller if he could, apparently.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 08:13:53 2023 No.15219049 File: 159 KB, 1280x960, cleanzubrin.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15219038 Ablative sucrose heat shields. Grow sugarcane on Mars and process it to make it reusable.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 08:15:25 2023 No.15219051

>>15219038
Honestly, I can absolutely see some sort of tasting menu style restaurant that is trying to make extremely overengineered dishes incorporating ingredients that have been in space and charged through the nose per dish, claiming it enhances the flavor profile or some retarded shit that those snooty assholes in fine dining say.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 08:15:38 2023 No.15219052 >>15219044 There is a balance between launch demand, size, full reuse, and capital efficiency. at some point size growth harms returns as logistics and launch operations become more expensive. Full/rapid reuse negates a need to build fuckhuge rockets.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 08:32:47 2023 No.15219066 >>15219052 As long as it's big enough to make the much larger rockets in space next.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:42:05 2023 No.15219126 File: 158 KB, 1280x794, 1280px-Space_Laser_Satellite_Defense_System_Concept.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15219020 yeah SDI was kino and I hope Space Force gets the beam weapons they rightfully deserve

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:42:28 2023 No.15219127 >s24 still has tons of missing tiles TWO WEEKS

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:45:10 2023 No.15219129 >>15219126 no i mean the science fiction show with the chewbaka

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:49:57 2023 No.15219131
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>>15218007
russian garbage has not been maintained for 30 years. Even when they were still factory new it was over-yielded, inaccurate as fuck soviet smut. Changs are beating up the drum about expanding their heads while half of their silos are empty. Typical face saving potemkins villages their culture is centered around

Pretty much the burgers are the only one with enough firepower and credibility to wipe the uppity dictatorships clean off the map. But they will never strike first and need to be heavily provoked for them to even us them. Meanwhile despite their arrogant barking both ziggers and changs know very well how inadequate they are next to the big burger cock. So a stalemate it is

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 09:51:32 2023 No.15219134 >>15219038 >Rocket Caramel already a thing if you haven't risked/caused a housefire by cooking rocket candy, you are a pretender

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:27:21 2023 No.15219173 >>15219131 The Patriot U-turn. Classic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS4i2InVB-Y

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:56:12 2023 No.15219199 File: 86 KB, 900x900, 1676976950386.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15218785 >rogue star goes supernova >it never slows down Checkmate astrologers

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 10:58:56 2023 No.15219201 >>15218659 >>15218734 Most ICBMs are running on legacy hardware and software and all the "skilled" workforce that knows anything about them are demented boomers. No wonder they're going to shit when they've been mostly neglected for decades

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 11:04:13 2023 No.15219207 >>15218566 Recover the body's water for the sietch

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 11:19:16 2023 No.15219228 putin just pulled out of the new start treaty its unironically fucking over nuclear war within 2 years the golden age of spaceflight will never happen now

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 11:51:30 2023 No.15219273 >>15218696 Not really surprised. The start up sequance for basically all the Russian upper stage engines are absolutely retarded and insanely complex because of the ORSC, even for fucking hypergolics that are not supposed to have these problems.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 12:12:36 2023 No.15219305 File: 93 KB, 675x433, The Day After World War III by Edward Zuckerman review 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15218763 I want to read this, anyone have a link?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 12:22:33 2023 No.15219319 File: 340 KB, 896x651, 1363465566168.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15219129 >chewbaka

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 13:02:50 2023 No.15219383
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Ciurcu and Buisson’s 1886 rocket-boat on the Seine river, which became a rocket when the engine exploded, throwing the crew in the air. Buisson later died of his wounds

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 13:11:08 2023 No.15219398

>>15218774
The potential threat from 3rd parties was considered, but as far as we know, there was no plan to preemptively attack them. The strategic reserve would be used for deterrence (and maybe compellence to ensure friendly cooperation) against any potential challengers.
Of course, in the scenario where WIII broke out, deterrence clearly didn't work, but there aren't any better ideas.
The fear is probably overstated; nuclear exchange after the mid-1960s would fuck over everyone, if only from loss of capital/trade goods.
The 'winners' would be whoever could maintain organization, command, and control over their beta country, from which they would reconstruct whatever they could.
>>15219201
Sarmat is supposed to be new. Russian media famously threatened to destroy the UK with it last year.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 13:16:07 2023 No.15219411 File: 1.51 MB, 1831x1885, 2f1265691b4f095764870c69a60ec095.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15219319 same

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 13:23:41 2023 No.15219431 >>15219398 ICBM problems are not uncommon France had a big Icbm failure a decade above

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 13:41:17 2023 No.15219479
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>>15218812
>the author was actually extremely cynical about communism and the eponymous Culture is a scathing critique of utopian communism in disguise
Provide evidence because this says he was a dirty red fuckhead
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iain_Banks#Politics

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 13:46:45 2023 No.15219487 File: 171 KB, 750x948, crane31n-1-web.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15218982 WW1 is already too late for Martian tripods to win easily; pom-pom guns would fuck them up quickly

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 13:52:31 2023 No.15219503 File: 84 KB, 302x549, grimace.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15219051 Instead of rich idiots using gold on their food, why not moondust? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edible_gold

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 14:26:58 2023 No.15219572 File: 275 KB, 2000x2000, F8C33E19-BE5C-4378-B070-0EAC1315C131.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Launcher acquired by space station startup Vast https://www.vastspace.com/press-releases/vast-acquires-launcher-to-accelerate-growth

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 14:47:19 2023 No.15219599 >another cryo test today why wont the suffering end

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 14:49:10 2023 No.15219602 >>15219572 >launcher who?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 14:51:20 2023 No.15219606 >FAA predicts 186 launches in 2026 https://spacenews.com/faa-forecasts-surging-commercial-launch-activity/ that'd be like 250-300 worldwide. the future is bright.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 15:02:12 2023 No.15219627 >>15219572 >rocket discontinued another one bites the dust

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 15:08:56 2023 No.15219638 >>15218446 Fuck that, I rode the bakerloo line this morning and it sucks ass. Modern trains like the elizabeth line use larger tunnels, not some brishit from 1854

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 15:14:59 2023 No.15219656 >>15217431 >Pu-238 Russia just suspended the new START treaty which limits how many nukes can be deployed. It's time to start nuke-maxing again, which means more Pu-238 waste being generated. The shortage will be solved.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 15:17:55 2023 No.15219664 File: 62 KB, 542x674, qui musk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15219656 American is firmly in Magian hands and the DoD won't save you

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 15:26:02 2023 No.15219682 HAPPY MARDI GRAS SFG

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 15:26:09 2023 No.15219683 is this the elon cusk cock sucking general? is that why you were all frothing at the mouth when SLS succeeded?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 15:27:38 2023 No.15219686 >>15219503 read "moonseed" by stephen baxter

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 15:28:18 2023 No.15219688 File: 2.69 MB, 1920x1080, sls_launch_02.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15219683 I love SLS

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 15:30:49 2023 No.15219695 File: 114 KB, 1000x1000, MARS_KING_ELON.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15219683

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 15:31:04 2023 No.15219697

Ultimately KSP2 is going to be better, the parts manager is the solution we should've had in KSP1 for years now but is nowhere to be seen
Not having to physically right click a part (hard depending on your rocket) to access it's settings is going to be great

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 15:35:50 2023 No.15219709 File: 45 KB, 700x700, joe- biden- 1993- crime-bill.rsquare.w700.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15219683 >when SLS succeeded It was just lulling dopes like you into a false sense of security. Remember this post when it kills its crew.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 15:39:55 2023 No.15219714 >>15219709 >O-Okay so it worked once and I was wrong.. >B-b-but it'll explode the next time! I swear it will! Is this all you have to go on? Stop coping already, it happened months ago.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 15:42:46 2023 No.15219722 File: 19 KB, 400x400, butthead.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15219683 Shut up, dork

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 15:54:50 2023 No.15219758 File: 73 KB, 474x806, meyer rocket.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 15:59:31 2023 No.15219768 >>15219683 everyone seethes because sls costs $5 billion dollars per launch that's a fucking aircraft carrier lmao

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 16:11:11 2023 No.15219791
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https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/02/texas-is-planning-to-make-a-huge-public-investment-in-space/

> As part of the state's biennial budget process, Texas Governor Greg Abbott has called on the state legislature to provide $350 million to create and fund a Texas Space Commission for the next two years.

>"With companies seeking to expand space travel in coming years, continued development of the space industry in the state will ensure Texas remains at the forefront not only in the United States, but the entire world," Abbott stated in his budget document for the 88th Legislature. "Further investment will cement Texas as the preeminent location for innovation and development in this rapidly growing industry. Due to increased competition from other states and internationally, further planning and coordination is needed to keep Texas at the cutting edge."

> This would be an extremely large state investment in the commercial space industry. The present leader in such activities is Florida, where the Space Florida promotional organization has supported myriad commercial space activities around its space coast and launch industry. In comparison to the Texas proposal, Space Florida has a modest annual budget of $12.5 million.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 16:14:40 2023 No.15219798 >>15219791 what's the official power rankings of american states in terms of spaceflight? >1 = florida >2 = california >3 = texas >POWER GAP >30 = alaska ???

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 16:16:34 2023 No.15219803 >>15219798 Florida California Texas Maryland Alaska Alabama everything else

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 16:17:23 2023 No.15219806 >>15219791 Does it mean more than 5 starship launches per year?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 16:18:26 2023 No.15219809 >>15219798 there's a power gap between Florida and California too

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 16:18:44 2023 No.15219811 >>15219806 no because texas is at a lower government level than the FAA

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 16:21:20 2023 No.15219816 >>15219798 >>15219803 ... >50 = Arkansas (for that one anon out there)

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 16:24:45 2023 No.15219831 >>15219791 the comments are absolutely seething and have almost nothing to do with spaceflight

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 16:25:52 2023 No.15219833 File: 44 KB, 799x449, oh mama.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15219798 One day, michibros...

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 16:33:40 2023 No.15219852 File: 213 KB, 1000x1468, BBBA561E-D9A6-4813-B9D8-A128049E859F.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15219798 Texas will usurp California soon, assuming Musk doesn’t get a better deal in FL for starship launches

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 16:51:48 2023 No.15219908 >>15219852 Starship is going to primarily launch out of the cape, they're already building towers and have the licenses. Boca Chica is just R&D.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 16:55:11 2023 No.15219925 >>15219908 >Boca Chica is just R&D Yeah, because the FAA decided so. The original plan was for Boca Chica to be the main launch site, you know, a launch site completely owned by SpaceX, that was the point of it all in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 17:07:37 2023 No.15219965 >>15219925 I don't recall electing the FAA to any position of power, abolish it now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 17:10:35 2023 No.15219972 >>15219925 This isn't even an issue. Falcon 9 at the beginning also had license for a few launches per year. After some time it's going to be modified.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 17:13:00 2023 No.15219981 File: 100 KB, 785x731, soy_rage.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >abolish it now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 17:13:26 2023 No.15219983 File: 145 KB, 963x849, 1502499574947.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15217642 I'd rape one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 17:14:59 2023 No.15219989 >>15216718 >solar panel covers oldspace fagX

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 17:15:05 2023 No.15219991

>>15219925
go back and watch the starship press conferences from a few years ago—local newspapers kept pressing Elon to commit to turning BC into a major spaceport, but he firmly said it's just for R&D and won't see more than a handful of launches a year or any kind of huge starship factory. The most launches it'll ever see is if E2E gets good enough that they transport starships from BC to Kennedy via launch rather than boat.
And anyway, the bigger bottleneck is beach and highway closures, not the FAA. You can't change that without changing the Texas constitution.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 17:16:14 2023 No.15219995

>A team of Chinese military engineers is developing a “phantom space strike” – a new tactic to overwhelm missile defences by creating a swarm of fake target signals from space.
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3210567/china-puts-phantom-space-force-concept-test-aim-swamp-enemy-missile-defences

why would they announce this? wouldnt something like this be highly classified?

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 17:17:57 2023 No.15219999

Does anyone of you own a telescope?
I'm thinking about buying one and in other thread on /sci/ some anon recommended Sky-Watcher Dobson 130. Would that be a good choice for an amateur? And if I bought it, what could it be used for apart from watching the Mun and planets?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 17:22:32 2023 No.15220009 >>15219995 Misdirection?

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 17:23:39 2023 No.15220010

>>15219991
>bigger bottleneck
The workaround is Massey's site. They use it for for prototypes and crush testing to save some hours.
However, it doesn't seem like a bottleneck. A year or two ago some retard was crying how SpaceX is running out of road closures and guess what. Nothing happened.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 17:27:01 2023 No.15220014 >>15219995 >scmp Why are you reading CHINA STRONK propaganda? >>15220009 Straight up propaganda. SCMP reports on shit like how China was about to make passenger planes powered by electric hallway thrusters.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 17:29:48 2023 No.15220022

I know the boring stuff gets a lot of anger for whatever reason but I can't help but root for them. My city had a whole fucking ordeal with our own tunnel and was another amazing way to waste money.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertha_(tunnel_boring_machine)
>Practically none of Bertha's components were reusable, and most of its steel was melted and recycled.[4] The final, disassembled pieces of Bertha were removed from the tunnel portal in August 2017.[66]

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 17:30:44 2023 No.15220024

>>15219995
It's a classic. You reveal some scifi shit that you have no intention of building to completion, or actually using if you do (it usually under-performs if you do make it), then you let your opponents spy agencies and military industrial complex kick up a big stir about it so that billions get poured into countermeasures, then you abandon it. repeat ad infinitum. As a nice side affect (probably especially important to china) you use it for propaganda within your own population and possibly a diplomatic bargaining chip with your enemy. US did this with great effect with star wars (USSR got so worried they started assassinating SDI scientists).

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 17:35:06 2023 No.15220029 >>15220022 How is a boring machine not reusable? Just point it at the next spot to dig and turn it on, what am I missing here? I just don't get this 'expendable boring machines' meme.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 17:44:39 2023 No.15220042 >>15220029 Obviously the drill bit gets fucked up. Also lots of tunnels just leave the boring machine in the tunnel once they’re done with the project; it’s way easier logistically

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 17:46:46 2023 No.15220047

>>15220042
>Also lots of tunnels just leave the boring machine in the tunnel once they’re done with the project
Wouldn't this block the tunnel? Or does the machine bore an adjacent tunnel off the main one to house itself in like a catacomb? Seems like an awful waste to make a big machine like that to use just once, like throwing away the locomotive once you reach the end of the rail line.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 17:48:07 2023 No.15220053 Ship 26 loaded and frosty

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 17:54:25 2023 No.15220065

>>15220029
think its more of an insurance issue. either to insure a new mega boring machine then a prior used one (that got damaged + general wear and tear). not sure how much they're built to operate outside of their estimated length of tunneling either

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 17:59:21 2023 No.15220078 >>15220065 There should be a used boring machine discount emporium, buyers know the risks when they purchase used tunnelers. "This one was only ever driven a half-mile under LA, lotta miles left on her!"

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 18:12:00 2023 No.15220105

>>15220065
they are also typically custom made for given geology so one made for granite would be an ass for digging shale
you have also different diameters, different inclinations, whether you will encounter aquifers or voids etc.

so even if you had a used one, with the correct diameter, you would still need to completely overhaul it

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 18:19:00 2023 No.15220124 >>15220105 >this much cope

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 18:29:41 2023 No.15220142 >>15218707 >>15218718 Neither side is going to "win". This is just Iran-Iraq all over again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 18:30:25 2023 No.15220144 >>15220142 USA wins

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 18:33:01 2023 No.15220151 >>15220144 Bingo >>15219925 That's still the plan internally. -X

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 18:34:20 2023 No.15220156 >>15220144 Yeah, USA and China. I say China also wins because this war is effectively making Russia a vassal state of the Chinese.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 18:37:59 2023 No.15220167 >>15218755 >the modern state of the video game industry qrd?

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 18:40:03 2023 No.15220170
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>>15220022
They're usually not reusable because they can't go backwards (wall pieces make the tunnel narrower) and they can't go up unless there's already an exit hole where they finish. And if you use a borer from each end to go twice as fast, they end up in the middle where there is no way out for either of them.
Their size also probably means they have to be transported as parts and assembled on-site, because they're too big to move in one piece by truck. That's one problem solved by TBC's small machines.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 18:46:00 2023 No.15220186 >>15220024 you mean the US got worried USSR was assasinating SDI scientists?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 18:47:09 2023 No.15220189 >>15220042 >Also lots of tunnels just leave the boring machine in the tunnel once they’re done with the project; it’s way easier logistically its just a hunk of worn metal. Also the actual discs that do the fracturing get replaced regularly

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 18:48:54 2023 No.15220194 I like how this thread started talking about nuclear war hours before Putin announced leaving the treaty.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 18:49:01 2023 No.15220195 >>15220170 >because they can't go backwards That sounds like one hell of a design oversight, have they tried to correct this? I'd try to correct that before building any more boring machines.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 18:50:04 2023 No.15220198 >>15219811 >texas is at a lower government level than the FAA lol lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 18:50:57 2023 No.15220204 >>15220194 4chan always knows what's going to happen a while before the rest of the internet/planet.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 18:52:52 2023 No.15220210 I like boring machines, I like this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AV2NcyX7pk

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 18:56:55 2023 No.15220224

>>15220195
Do you even know how a tunnel is bored? You dig a hole the size of the machine, then you put up walls behind you so it doesn't collapse. Subtract the thickness of the walls from the diameter of the hole, and it will always be smaller than the hole.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 19:00:10 2023 No.15220233 >>15220224 Just make the digging head a wider diameter than the rest of the machine. Engineers are stupid.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 19:01:38 2023 No.15220237 >>15220233 now you're just trolling

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 19:05:16 2023 No.15220248 >>15220237 he has a good point

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 19:05:42 2023 No.15220250 File: 60 KB, 1440x1078, 1606587687572.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15220233

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 19:06:08 2023 No.15220254 >>15220237 >t. expert kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 19:09:38 2023 No.15220263 reusing the tunnel boring machine is impossible, illegal and would be racist anyway

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 19:12:43 2023 No.15220270 File: 126 KB, 541x333, nuclear tunnel boring machine.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You don't have to take the machine out of the tunnel if you just tunnel straight through the mantle out the other side.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 19:14:00 2023 No.15220274 >>15220270 I don't even understand the point being made. A tunnel has two ends. Just take it out where it breaks through??????????????????????????????????????????????

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 19:14:37 2023 No.15220276 >>15220274 >A tunnel has two ends This, otherwise it's just a hole

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 19:19:40 2023 No.15220286 >>15220276 A hole is a certain length of vertical volume, a tunnel is a hole extending horizontally at a certain length, tunnels do not need ends to be tunnels

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 19:19:44 2023 No.15220287 >>15220274 it's not that easy in tunnlery. I'm sure the experts that make TBMs know what they're doing

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 19:33:54 2023 No.15220314 File: 254 KB, 645x1260, 1460154316968.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15220254 goodbye

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 19:48:25 2023 No.15220364 File: 20 KB, 240x360, NyeJPL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] SCIENCE SPACE AND SCIENCE

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 19:50:08 2023 No.15220371 File: 45 KB, 480x300, nye space & rational.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15220364

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 19:52:19 2023 No.15220376 >>15219683 >SLS succeeded fuck off

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 20:01:16 2023 No.15220416 File: 3.18 MB, 5100x3300, 1545964095137.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15219683

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 20:11:45 2023 No.15220444 What’s the deep space radiation environment like? Could I hang out in a cockpit with a class canopy?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 20:12:19 2023 No.15220445 >>15220416 astounding discrepancy

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 20:12:46 2023 No.15220447 >>15220444 *glass

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 20:20:57 2023 No.15220465 File: 13 KB, 659x370, ds talby.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15220444 Tell us how thick the glass is first

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 20:34:04 2023 No.15220486 >>15220465 Thiccer than Krystal's thighs

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 20:46:15 2023 No.15220507 >>15219683 succeeded at spending $40 billion dollar tax payers

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 20:51:52 2023 No.15220513 >>15220507 I bet I could do that if they let me just try.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 20:52:13 2023 No.15220515 >>15220465 I dunno however thick it needs to be to not depressurize

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 20:54:08 2023 No.15220519
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>>15220444
shouldn't be lethal or be too dangerous, but it gets less lethal the farther away you get from the sun. Probably also run for cover if you see one of these coming your way

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 21:01:32 2023 No.15220540 >>15220519 I figure it’d be nastier in interstellar space when you’ve left the sun’s magnetic field

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 21:07:46 2023 No.15220557 File: 39 KB, 591x404, dfag.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] get ready for KINO soon

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 21:16:18 2023 No.15220570 >>15220557 >very near future 2 weeks?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 21:19:46 2023 No.15220583 >>15220570 2 weeks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 21:28:21 2023 No.15220605 File: 63 KB, 799x579, capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15220557 >sometime in March April it is then.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 21:28:27 2023 No.15220606 File: 36 KB, 800x450, like_thats_ever_gonna_happen.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15220557 >march

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 21:33:24 2023 No.15220620
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>>15219972
>>15219991
>local newspapers kept pressing Elon to commit to turning BC into a major spaceport
That was during the times when FAA looked to cancel the entire project with endless delays. So people were talking if Elon would just leave Boca and setup shop somewhere else. Musk instead took a middle road and said he'll scale down the operations so FAA can allow SpaceX to operate.

The entire delay was because FAA wanted to do an environmental review. So to speed up the process, SpaceX just cancelled their ambition to transform Starbase into a real launch facility.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 21:35:19 2023 No.15220624 >>15220620 now that their foot is in the door, the ramp up will proceed

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 21:37:55 2023 No.15220627 >>15220620 they're still building the factory at starbase, the one in florida is much bigger though

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 21:42:09 2023 No.15220638 >>15220620 where is that factory located?

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 21:43:29 2023 No.15220642
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>>15220627
The factory on Starbase is only partially built and it seems like the work has stopped. I bet they don't want to interrupt the preduction.
In Florida, the factory is almost finished, at least from the outside. What's weird is that they haven't started building the Megabay yet.

Anonymous Tue Feb 21 21:44:17 2023 No.15220643

>>15220638
>>15220627
Yeah, the image is misleading because its about two different locations.

Top is starbase, where they're planning on building a new long term base
Bottom is bastrop, texas (near austin for starlink megafactory)
They also have one thats being built in florida as well. So lots of expansions from spacex

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 21:50:41 2023 No.15220658 nuclear testing is kino

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 21:53:59 2023 No.15220664 >>15220658 They should do it at Starbase.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 21:55:16 2023 No.15220669 >>15220658 >nuclear testing i- ACCCKKK

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 21:59:02 2023 No.15220679 >>15220643 >So lots of expansions from spacex all this presence and they still have a small workforce

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 22:09:44 2023 No.15220693 >>15220679 I want to see the spacex robots

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 22:17:52 2023 No.15220710 >>15220124 Tunneling is hard

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 22:21:07 2023 No.15220721 >>15220620 >>15220624 Texas Space Commission can fix this, I hope, they are in competition of sorts with Florida, Abbot and DeSantis, the result could be just splendid for SpaceX desu

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 22:28:58 2023 No.15220750 >>15220194 >.t knowers

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 22:39:18 2023 No.15220769 Staging! >>15220766 >>15220766 >>15220766 >>15220766

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 22:40:03 2023 No.15220774 Staging >>15220768 >>15220768 >>15220769 Fugg

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 21 22:41:17 2023 No.15220777 >>15220769 >>15220774 Fight!

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