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/sfg/ - Space Flight General Anonymous Mon Nov 21 19:51:51 2022 No.15004198 [Reply] [Original]

Orion made it edition
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>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 19:54:45 2022 No.15004202 File: 245 KB, 1125x786, 01F21D7E-B245-4CA6-B1B3-94C397C25215.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] N1…what a damn shame it never made it to orbit

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 19:56:33 2022 No.15004206 USA won the space race, now USA will win the soccer cup race

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 19:57:11 2022 No.15004207 >>15004189 The phosphine stuff comes back again now and then. I've seen both claims that it was debunked and also that they got more evidence for it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 20:01:49 2022 No.15004217 File: 2.87 MB, 730x400, earthset .webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Are they going to release better non-stream footage? This could be a cool shot but it looks really choppy even after I sped it up 10x

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 20:02:50 2022 No.15004219 File: 17 KB, 350x466, 9B498A0C-3D2D-41FB-8FCF-8F7B589C790E.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >KSP takes half an hour to load with RSS and mods >Constantly freezes while playing Worried.jpg

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 20:04:28 2022 No.15004221 >>15004219 Wait for KSP2

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 20:05:24 2022 No.15004227 >>15004217 I can't fucking understand how they fucked up the aspect ratio. The moon during the streams always looks like an egg, the released footage is always better.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 20:06:19 2022 No.15004229 >>15004221 KSP 2 is gonna have even worse performance than 1. I think that's why they delayed it so much

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 20:08:47 2022 No.15004230 >>15004227 Seemed like it was some kind of fish-eye lens since the moon was just morphing at some point. Also correction, that's 20x speed

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 20:09:55 2022 No.15004232 File: 908 KB, 4000x3000, art001e000198 FD1~orig.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15004217 They're busy uploading pictures from mission control a week ago and day 1

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 20:10:28 2022 No.15004233 File: 907 KB, 4000x3000, art001e000199 FD1~orig.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 20:10:59 2022 No.15004235 >>15004217 Nobody here actually believes this is real, right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 20:11:01 2022 No.15004236 File: 967 KB, 4000x3000, art001e000202 FD1~orig.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 20:13:02 2022 No.15004238 >>15004229 How?

Anonymous Mon Nov 21 20:13:52 2022 No.15004240
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>>15004235
Why not? Voyager is already outside the solar system, and James Webb is sitting 1,6 million kilometres from Earth way beyond the moon, so I don't see what's so unbelievable about flying past the moon. Or is this some "space is fake" thing where all footage past the firmament is fake?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 20:14:01 2022 No.15004243 >>15004235 Where did the big rocket go?

Anonymous Mon Nov 21 20:17:21 2022 No.15004250

>>15004243
I asked this of a flat earther and according to him the rocket just flies into the sea. Apparently you just can't see the splash because it's so far away, even though there should be nothing blocking the view on a flat Earth. Probably best to just not engage in this stuff, although I already broke that rule myself

Anonymous Mon Nov 21 20:22:54 2022 No.15004258
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We all know the soviet never had a shot of landing on the moon first (at least after 1962), but it always amazed me that they had a genuine shot at being the first to send a crew in cislunar space. People often forget they were the first to send animals around the moon in Zond 5.

Like pretty much 2 of any of the following would have given them an opportunity to send a crewed Proton-Zond before a type C'/F Apollo mission
>1967/early 68 proton has just more pure luck and launch success rate is higher
>They stand down the proton for several months for safety in 1967 instead of 1970
>Apollo 6 fails as it almost did.
>NASA is overly cautious and decides to keep Apollo 8 on a High Earth orbit as originally planned
>The soviets decide to launch a crew at the first opportunity after a succesful demonstration of Zond-Lunar Flyby

Of course Zond/7K-L1 was a dead end, a fucking death trap that was more likely to kill its crew than not, and it was so much at the edge of the Proton's capabilities they would probably have to send the crew in soyuz separately (picrel), but it would have stolen Apollo 8's achievement in the public eye (noone cares about the differenc between a lunar orbit and fly-by), and it really almost was down to the stars aligning for the soviets and a few decisions.

Of course they'd still get mogged to the lunar surface, and probably it would convince the american to do more of the planned Apollo missions, so they'd get mogged even harder without it improving N1's success odds.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 20:24:02 2022 No.15004261 File: 310 KB, 2428x2428, 8C0DA7AB-A432-4B0F-A128-4E19B51BF5D1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15004258 If only N11 was selected as the Soviet heavy lifter instead of Proton…

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 20:42:29 2022 No.15004281 >>15004261 >first N1 launch succeeds >second is crewed in July 69 >Simplified Luna 14 lands on the moon >Returns sample to Lunar Orbit but stays there. >Crewed zond recovers it >A soviet crew lands with lunar sample before Apollo 11 launches.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 20:54:27 2022 No.15004310 >>15004235 Go back to your conspiracy thread, schizo. Here we complain about the actual bullshit from space agencies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 21:08:10 2022 No.15004333 >>15004258 that pic is positively penile

Anonymous Mon Nov 21 21:17:18 2022 No.15004350

>>15004250
Where does the rocket actually go? Does it burn up in the atmosphere? I thought the side rockets come back down and fall into the ocean and they recover them?

Its funny that the flat earther would explain what happened to a rocket that goes into space by saying it actually goes into the ocean. It goes into space and then goes into the ocean!

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 21:24:37 2022 No.15004365 >>15004350 >It goes into space it doesn't

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 21:24:47 2022 No.15004367 >>15004261 Literally never would have happened. The design was badly compromised by its flaws.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 21:26:03 2022 No.15004370 >>15004310 It looks mega fake though. This is all we got after a week of CGI.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 21:27:13 2022 No.15004374 File: 1.23 MB, 200x200, 1516586518785.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Oh no flat earthers...

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 21:33:10 2022 No.15004390 >>15004370 The only weird thing is the warping from either a fisheye camera or some oldspace boomer fucked up the aspect ratio.

Anonymous Mon Nov 21 21:36:39 2022 No.15004398

>>15004367
Really?
This is what Boris Chertok has to say about the N11:

"It was proposed that the project for the military be implemented in two
phases. First, on the basis of the second and third stages, produce a separate
N-11 rocket with a launch mass of 750 tons, capable of inserting a satellite with
a mass up to 25 tons into Earth orbit. Then produce the actual super-heavy
three-stage N-1 rocket with a launch mass of 2,200 tons. Despite its obvious
logic, this proposal to begin operations on the N-11 ultimately found no sup-
port from expert commissions, from the military, or in subsequent decrees.

In history, one should not resort to the “what ifs,” but I am not a his-
torian and I can allow myself to conjecture how everything would have
unfolded if our 1962 proposal had been enacted. There is no doubt that
we would have produced the N-11 considerably sooner than the first N-1
flight model. We could have conducted developmental testing on the second
and third stages of the rocket on the firing rigs near Zagorsk at NII-229 (as
later happened). 23 The launch systems that were constructed for the N-1
would have been simplified to be used for the N-11 during the first phase.
We missed a real opportunity to produce an environmentally clean launch
vehicle for a 25-metric-ton payload. To this day, world cosmonautics has a
very acute need for such a clean launch vehicle. But at that time, that idea
could have interfered with Chelomey’s proposals for the UR-500 and Yangel’s
proposals for the R-56.
[...]
I asked, “And actually, Georgiy Nikolayevich, if we had begun with the N-11,
as Korolev proposed, wouldn’t we already have a launch vehicle every bit as
good as the UR-500, but safe, with the two upper stages of the N-1 already
tested out? That was the way the Americans operated, first developing the
Saturn IB. If you became acquainted with Chelomey’s UR-700 design, you’d
see he came out with the very same idea: its upper stages were the already-
tested-out UR-500.”"

Anonymous Mon Nov 21 21:41:41 2022 No.15004415

>>15004398
Also that it could be tested in Zagorsk means the whole thing wouldn't have to stay in Baikonur, so more interal outsourcing would be possible. Which would be politically attractive

Of course, it's Kerolox so the army at the time had less interest in it without ICBM capabilities.

Anonymous Mon Nov 21 21:43:47 2022 No.15004417

>>15004398
Because they wanted to cheap out on weight/materials it had one-time-use valves on the bottom stages, meaning it could never be properly test fired without destroying samples from the factory. They had all their accidents because of this, because individual engines could never be properly checked and so problems that were unique or idiosyncratic with the extremely complex lower stage fuel injection would go unseen until launch.

Anonymous Mon Nov 21 21:44:18 2022 No.15004419
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Took a look at /pol/ while the mission is going on and it made me realize that it doesn't matter what, many will stick doggedly to their beliefs even in the face of overwhelming new evidence and an actual ongoing moon mission with cameras out the ass and being tracked by every fucking space agency or amateur with a ham radio.

Artemis II and III will be happening live and they will still believe its all fake no matter how much footage and livestream there is, best to just not engage with them, they are broken and see conspiracy in everything, natural skepticism taken to an extreme unproductive direction.

Anonymous Mon Nov 21 21:44:20 2022 No.15004420

>>15004398
NTA but N11 was definitely a superior proposal, but it was hampered by the soviet space program's insistence of making 25 ton launcher into an ICBM too.
America didn't have this issue because they weren't trying to make absolutely gigantic warheads - only more small sized ones

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 21:45:28 2022 No.15004422 File: 100 KB, 1280x848, 5FAE7C53-0779-45B5-B12F-6FEA68FC409D.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15004419 I will never understand flat earth and “space is fake” schizos

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 21:48:41 2022 No.15004426 File: 1015 KB, 3375x2625, FiGroj_WAAI_TzB.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 21:54:17 2022 No.15004433 >>15004370 Why don't you go back to posting less stale bait, like 1=0.999...

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 21:54:24 2022 No.15004435 >>15004426 it's that easy

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 21:55:21 2022 No.15004437 >>15004417 Well at least they'd be able to do more full-scale development test as the quote says. Would the NK-33 version have the same issues with that one time use valve?

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>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 21:56:50 2022 No.15004441 >>15004422 They just love to be contrarian

Anonymous Mon Nov 21 21:57:35 2022 No.15004442

>>15004422
>I will never understand flat earth and “space is fake” schizos
Nerds need to understand that schizo conspiracy usually comes from being angry at something else.
For example, people hated the war on terror, so they started saying that Bush did 9/11 even when that was not needed for criticizing the war on terror.
People say that space is fake because they hate the US government and hate academia. To defy a scientist is to defy the system that fucks over them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 21:57:51 2022 No.15004444 >>15004440 >gaps its over

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 21:58:07 2022 No.15004445 Expect bad and cold weather https://www.severe-weather.eu/global-weather/stratosphere-polar-vortex-cooling-event-update-cold-anomaly-winter-season-influence-fa/

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 21:58:43 2022 No.15004448 >>15004433 Is it?

Anonymous Mon Nov 21 21:59:44 2022 No.15004451

>>15004445
>The anomalous cooling is caused by the large stratospheric water vapor cloud created by the January Hunga Tonga eruption. Cooling on this scale has not been seen in modern satellite records, with record cold temperatures detected in the southern stratosphere.

They said it would cause warming

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 22:00:15 2022 No.15004452 >>15004451 Who is they?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 22:00:38 2022 No.15004454 File: 39 KB, 376x423, sfg_dead.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15004444 Yup. That's what happens when you allow Tesla Musk quality manufacturing. He's going to kill astronauts

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 22:03:53 2022 No.15004456 >>15004440 >this tiny thing costs $200+M dollars

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 22:04:13 2022 No.15004457 https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1594809945555345435 They filled out the higher latitudes for Starlink The Kujjuaq cell is already full somehow lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 22:05:15 2022 No.15004458 >>15004454 bait>

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 22:05:26 2022 No.15004459 >>15004457 I wish I could find the hexagons.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 22:08:34 2022 No.15004463 so. anthony. where the frick is my MECO? you havent recorded a podcast in WEEKS you LAZY ASS

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 22:09:12 2022 No.15004464 >>15004440 Custom hand attached autism

Anonymous Mon Nov 21 22:12:31 2022 No.15004467

>>15004437
Nope NK-33 could be test fired again and again. Amazingly, even after the first four N1’s failed (the last one could’ve made it if they separated the stages a few seconds early), a fifth N1 was built which used the NK-33 upgrades and whatnot. By that time, the USSR already was looking at a direct ascent Soyuz capsule landing on the moon with two crew, and a dual launch N1 strategy.
Of course, the N1F as it was called was cancelled. History would be very different if the N1U (the 1969-1972 version) had succeeded and allowed the N1F to take root.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 22:18:09 2022 No.15004474 >>15004440 duckface

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 22:22:49 2022 No.15004483 >>15004467 Man N1-7L failing must have been so fucking frustrating. But frankly when you look at the launch record of the early proton, I'm not sure how the N-11 could have been much worse desu.80% failure rate in 1969!

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 22:25:39 2022 No.15004488 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TgxfAAwXis

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 22:28:37 2022 No.15004495 ABL RS1 launch in 4 minutes

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 22:30:09 2022 No.15004497 >>15004495 >abort

Anonymous Mon Nov 21 22:30:09 2022 No.15004498
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>>15004258
Zond 5 has a funny side story
>The Zond 5 caused a scare in the United States when on 19 September 1968, the voices of cosmonauts Valery Bykovsky, Vitaly Sevastyanov and Pavel Popovich were transmitted from the spacecraft and intercepted by Jodrell Bank Observatory and the CIA. The cosmonauts were apparently reading out telemetry data and computer readings, and even discussing making an attempt to land. At the height of the Cold War, there was a real concern that the Soviets might actually beat NASA to the Moon. Apollo 17 astronaut Eugene Cernan remarked that the incident had "shocked the hell out of us."
>Popovich would later recall: "When we realized we would never make it to the moon, we decided to engage in a little bit of hooliganism. We asked our engineers to link the on-the-probe receiver to the transmitter with a jumper wire. Moon flight missions were then controlled from a command centre in Yevpatoria, in the Crimea. When the probe was on its path round the Moon, I was at the center. So I took the mic and said: "The flight is proceeding according to normal; we’re approaching the surface..." Seconds later my report – as if from outer space – was received on Earth, including [by] the Americans. The U.S. space advisor Frank Borman got a phone call from President Nixon [actually Johnson], who asked: 'Why is Popovich reporting from the moon?' My joke caused real turmoil. In about a month's time. Frank came to the USSR, and I was instructed to meet him at the airport. Hardly had he walked out of his plane when he shook his fist at me and said: 'Hey, you, space hooligan!'"
>>15004467
No recent news from the baguette working on the documentary about N-1, apparently the war has fucked the timeline even more than after the pandemic. Big shame.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 22:33:00 2022 No.15004503 >>15004495 no stream no care

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 22:43:42 2022 No.15004519 Soviet rocektrybros... Let it go. Just be glad SpaceX exist.

Anonymous Mon Nov 21 22:44:15 2022 No.15004521

>>15004467
"Mozzhorin turned out to be
the only one opposed to shutting down N-1 operations [during the 1974 votes]. He spoke in favor of
continuing the launch vehicle’s developmental testing program. Mozzhorin
attempted to prove the need for the launch of N-1 No. 8, having alluded to
the fact that new reusable engines had been installed on it.
“We are gaining the opportunity to test not just the first, but the second
and third stages as well. After the Americans halt operations on the Saturn
V, the N-1 will be the only super-heavy launch vehicle of similar class in the
world. We must not under any circumstances miss this opportunity.”
“And you guarantee that the fifth launch will be a success?” asked Ustinov.
“As you know, only an insurance policy gives full guarantees,” Mozzhorin
said, recalling Voskresenskiy’s favorite aphorism.
For some reason this really infuriated Komissarov"

>>15004497
Abort indeed, Next window December 7th

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 22:44:36 2022 No.15004522 >>15004497 Yep. Abort at T-1.75s

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 22:44:42 2022 No.15004523 >>15004258 >they had a genuine shot at being the first to send a crew in cislunar space Just imagine for a second how everything would have turned out had that happened. History would be so different. A man can only dream....

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 22:44:52 2022 No.15004524 File: 3.07 MB, 385x498, 1668588930891.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >RS1 aborted during ignition at T-1.75s. The vehicle is healthy, and the team is setting up to offload propellant for today. Our next launch window opens on December 7th.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 22:47:53 2022 No.15004528 File: 146 KB, 827x879, two weeks.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15004524 So what exactly is going on up at Kodiak that would keep them off the range? That place is deader than most launch complexes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 22:52:13 2022 No.15004536 >>15004528 >stand down for more than 2 weeks due to range availability >more than 2 weeks Well, it's over, that's such a long time that I can't even imagine it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 22:53:24 2022 No.15004537 File: 81 KB, 812x610, apollo 10 crew snoopy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What are they doing to thermally control the Orion? Have we progressed beyond the need for barbecue mode?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 22:55:00 2022 No.15004544 File: 19 KB, 665x326, 10400000..png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15004448 digits confirmed it

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 22:56:52 2022 No.15004548 >>15004422 99% of the time it's to discredit other things being said on /pol/

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 22:59:10 2022 No.15004553 >>15004548 Like?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 22:59:15 2022 No.15004554 File: 1.50 MB, 1920x1080, firefox_2022-11-21_17-58-49.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Pressure blew the doors off lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:01:52 2022 No.15004557 >>15004554 Looks like 6 months of repairs to me

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:03:14 2022 No.15004559 >>15004553 hollow earth

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:03:18 2022 No.15004562 >>15004238 all of the footage they have shown is laggy as hell

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:08:02 2022 No.15004571 >>15004557 cost-plus of course

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:09:03 2022 No.15004573 NASA JUST SAID THEY'LL TRY TO KEEP A LIVESTREAM UP FROM ORION CONSTANTLY HOLY SHIT

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:09:23 2022 No.15004574 https://youtube.com/watch?v=7kL7qDeI05U Prove it wrong

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:10:03 2022 No.15004577 1GB FROM ORION TO EARTH- 90 MINUTES GOT IT DOWN TO 40 MINUTES Godamn DSN is slow

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:10:48 2022 No.15004581 File: 759 KB, 1768x987, Screenshot_20221121_165622.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15004554 toasty

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:12:35 2022 No.15004583 File: 553 KB, 2208x1768, Screenshot_20221121_165924.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15004581 spicy

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:13:14 2022 No.15004584 >>15004581 EXPENDABLE LAUNCH PADS

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:16:38 2022 No.15004590 >>15004577 It's not so easy in antennatry

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:17:59 2022 No.15004593 >>15004557 kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:19:10 2022 No.15004595 >>15004583 I wanna be strapped to the bottom of a flame trench.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:24:38 2022 No.15004602 File: 1.77 MB, 4096x2731, 1660588659859.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The last Florida flyover was a month ago. I wonder what has changed since then. Space nigga is saying that OLM2 is suffering delays.

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Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:28:21 2022 No.15004608
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>>15004422
It's pretty simple. They're just people with trust issues who aren't smart enough to do their own research.
>academia spews decades of obvious bullshit about every marginally political topic
>academia also provides information about space, nuclear weapons, and other things that are real but potentially inconvenient to /pol/ack world views
They don't know enough about the scientific process to establish a bullshit filter for why one paper is better than another, so they just say "everything said by a Jew infested institution is probably wrong" and retreat to /x/-politics or religion.

>>15004528
Probably weather. Astra had so many weather scrubs up there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:30:12 2022 No.15004612 File: 58 KB, 929x590, Ron Miller Soviet Salyut extended space stations.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15004604 > be mutt capsule > have to fly over Mare Moscoviense lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:34:56 2022 No.15004619 https://twitter.com/maximaxoo/status/1594718605488361473 Rover to Phobos

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:36:33 2022 No.15004621 >>15004619 How can a rover even drive in such a low gravity environment? Why not just send some hopper instead?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:37:38 2022 No.15004622 >>15004619 Phobos is cursed. Russia/USSR learned that already

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:38:27 2022 No.15004623 >>15004619 Land rover on Phobos. Rover gets stuck in full throttle mode. Escape velocity timing makes the Phobos lander fly all the way to Deimos. Russian space program cucked for all eternity.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:38:28 2022 No.15004624 go.nasa.gov/3uun7hr new live stream site

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:39:46 2022 No.15004625 >>15004624 fuck not up yet, but it showed up on the briefing

Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:40:43 2022 No.15004626

>>15004621
Phobos has a surface gravity of 0.57 cm/s2. I think that's a bit too low to get anything resembling normal traction. If you want a rover its either going to have to move absurdly slowly or have some form or locomotion that really stretches the definition of "rover."

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:42:01 2022 No.15004627 >>15004619 >>15004621 Brought to you by CNES https://youtu.be/2gyxWW4wioQ

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:42:35 2022 No.15004631 >>15004627 Better have a camera to image Mars from Phobos or i swer2god

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>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:45:26 2022 No.15004636 >>15004631 That'll be 2 billion €, plus pourboire :^)

Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:47:35 2022 No.15004638

Ustinov: “Is it necessary to insert 250 tons? Isn’t that an awful lot compared with
the Americans? They flew to the Moon and now they can’t find any work for
their Saturn. And it only inserted 140 tons.”

Glushko: “This isn’t our concern,” answered Glushko. “Let them have the headache,
and we’ll pass them by. And after this they will fall behind in pursuit of us. Or
they will propose collaboration.”
U:“And will it be tsiklin or hydrogen in the second stage?” 27
G:“For the time being we are conducting calculations on tsiklin. We have
too little experience with hydrogen. We can promise, but disrupt all of the
deadlines.”
U: “Let’s get this straight—you clashed with Korolev because you refused to
make powerful engines for the N-1 running on oxygen and kerosene. And
now that Korolev is no longer around you are proposing that we agree to
engines that you flat out rejected when Korolev was alive?”

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:47:41 2022 No.15004639 File: 710 KB, 1348x761, firefox_2022-11-21_18-47-15.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >404 NASAAAAAAAAAA

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:48:03 2022 No.15004640 >>15004553 the Mo**ad plot to blackmail the bulk of the US government, primarily

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>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:51:41 2022 No.15004650 >>15004639 Ƨ>ທ>? what's that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:52:07 2022 No.15004651 >>15004619 Clear did a whole lecture about it but it's private now for some reason

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:53:12 2022 No.15004652 >>15004651 ITAR kun got to her...

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:54:46 2022 No.15004653 >>15004651 >>15004652 that's a man

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:57:12 2022 No.15004655 fucking dreadful rate limiting on the image library, you can only view like 5 images and then you have to wait several minutes before you can do anything else

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:57:55 2022 No.15004656 >>15004653 retard

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 21 23:58:14 2022 No.15004657 File: 1.44 MB, 874x1133, newh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:00:38 2022 No.15004662 >>15004651 >but it's private now for some reason Sure

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:02:13 2022 No.15004669 File: 2.55 MB, 414x640, A3C197A6-54C8-43B5-A306-9E01706ADF2E.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How the FUCK is booster 7 still not retired yet?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:02:28 2022 No.15004671 >>15004662 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpFhUozupAw https://twitter.com/clearusui/status/1593825153569284096

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:05:13 2022 No.15004677 >>15004671 Well, I've been debunked, what now

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:06:34 2022 No.15004683 >>15004626 I wonder what the lowest practically usable gravity is. Not for a rover, just in general. Even 0.03g is still nearly 1 foot per second acceleration.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:06:56 2022 No.15004684 File: 125 KB, 396x382, 1663619670297279.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:07:10 2022 No.15004686 File: 570 KB, 3840x2160, 1661564504518.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15004669 Because it's going.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:07:44 2022 No.15004688 >>15004684 The FAA typed this post

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:08:11 2022 No.15004690 >>15004684 Nigga you post this in every thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:08:46 2022 No.15004691 >Scott Manley now has sponsors It's over... https://youtube.com/shorts/ooXi4xAoEE8?feature=share

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:09:02 2022 No.15004692 >>15004684 I miss the demigod-war poster.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:11:13 2022 No.15004697 >>15004691 >This video is sponsored by Northrop Grumman based hullo

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:13:43 2022 No.15004699 >>15004677 Suicide out of shame

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:16:26 2022 No.15004703 >>15004697 >Hullo sponsored by NG >NSF sponsored by NG Is this monopoly?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:19:06 2022 No.15004704 Daily reminder only Subsaharian African can safely survive long duration BLEO missions thanks to their low neanderthal ancestry and higher resistance to the lack of magnetic field.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:20:25 2022 No.15004706 File: 481 KB, 1200x800, i-have-accepted-a-position-at-NGC-R3D2-v4.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15004703 heh... nothing personnel kid

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:20:33 2022 No.15004707 File: 97 KB, 718x904, 786C15EF-3C94-4A0B-AC87-479924A82FA9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Apollo-Titan

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:26:48 2022 No.15004715 >>15004706 wuts dat

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:27:49 2022 No.15004717 >>15004671 fucking JAXA

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:35:05 2022 No.15004724 >>15004717 There was a live camera (I think in the university class she was presenting to) so it's probably down for privacy reasons, japanese people really don't like having their faces online

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:36:12 2022 No.15004728 File: 1021 KB, 1080x1080, suction.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15004621 Suction.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:36:54 2022 No.15004729 File: 210 KB, 1600x1156, nasa-space-colony-concepts-- (5).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is there anything stopping people from using these as interstellar generation ships

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:37:45 2022 No.15004730 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCpfvj1eiLs 2 hrs till launch

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:39:32 2022 No.15004731 File: 28 KB, 1024x464, Starship-Saturn-Titan-burn-NASA-SpaceX-1-crop-3-1024x464.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:39:44 2022 No.15004732 >>15004730 When are they changing the opening?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:40:04 2022 No.15004733 >>15004732 2 weeks

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:41:10 2022 No.15004734 >>15004733 cool, I can't wait

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:44:55 2022 No.15004739 File: 36 KB, 536x621, interstellar space colony.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15004729 Not at all, planetcucks will never brave the Big Dark but for habchads it's nbd

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:49:06 2022 No.15004745 >>15004662 She has lots of in depth lectures

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:50:25 2022 No.15004748 >>15004684 FUCK YOU NO THEY WONT SHUT UUUUUUP

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:51:32 2022 No.15004749 File: 89 KB, 2048x1618, 48629636-3B14-416F-AE07-5ABF10971682.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Far side of the moon captured by Orion

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:53:43 2022 No.15004753 File: 185 KB, 2592x2048, art001e000194 opnav 6~orig.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15004749

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:53:59 2022 No.15004754 >>15004749 nice, didn't know the sun shone on the back of the moon haha!

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:54:17 2022 No.15004755 If STS-1 had astronauts aboard what was wrong with doing it on Artemis I

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:55:32 2022 No.15004757 >>15004755 modern astronauts are more risk-averse (this is a good thing if spaceflight is to become more commonplace among regular people)

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:57:21 2022 No.15004761 >>15004757 >if spaceflight is to become more commonplace among regular people you will never go to space...

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:59:00 2022 No.15004764 >sort nasa library by newest upload >the images are shuffled into a random order each time

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 00:59:38 2022 No.15004768 File: 2.90 MB, 1280x1024, ART-CMA1 2022 325 1250 SHARED art001m1203251250~orig - 0.02.20-0.03.20.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 01:01:18 2022 No.15004770 File: 575 KB, 4000x3000, FiINmcnXgAEHi4-.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 01:02:21 2022 No.15004773 >>15004761 okay.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 01:06:41 2022 No.15004780 >>15004233 that's crazy you can see where the 5g towers have killed the trees

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 01:10:01 2022 No.15004786 >>15004626 It will be driving few mm per second.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 01:12:16 2022 No.15004791 >>15004422 many were molested sadly

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 01:13:48 2022 No.15004794 >>15004754 you're joking right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 01:13:55 2022 No.15004795 >>15004729 >>15004739 Nice orbital manufacturing and assembly capability. Losers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 01:15:48 2022 No.15004799 >>15004498 >that story sci trolling is just continuing a decades-old tradition, apparently

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 01:24:24 2022 No.15004812 >>15004422 I will never understand "fix e*rth first" schizos

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 01:24:28 2022 No.15004814 >>15004791 The public education system and its consequences have been a disaster for the American society

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 01:25:57 2022 No.15004818 File: 186 KB, 1024x768, lagrange.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15004240 genuine question, not trying to say space doesn't real: how does something orbit L2? i thought objects drift away from that point the further they are from it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 01:26:40 2022 No.15004820 >>15004794 My coworker thought the back side of the sun was dark, like it shined only on Earth like a flashlight. He was born in Africa though, didn't get here until he was a teenager.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 01:28:55 2022 No.15004824 >>15004818 all the lagrange points are like balancing a marble on top of a smooth glass hill, they all need stationkeeping

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 01:32:46 2022 No.15004830 >>15004824 L4 and L5 are stable if the difference in mass is large enough

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 01:35:10 2022 No.15004835 >>15004812 They have a point. We shouldn't focus on space exploration until we finally get rid of earth's atmosphere

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 01:37:08 2022 No.15004842 >>15004812 They're not schizos; they're just trying to guilt you into paying for something they want instead of something you want. They're greedy and demanding and self-centered. They should all be killed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 01:39:39 2022 No.15004846 >>15004818 Is there an image like this that shows all of the planets at once?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 01:42:45 2022 No.15004853 >>15004824 >>15004830 thanks anons, this is basically what i thought so will the telescope just run out of fuel and drift off eventually? >>15004846 couldn't tell you, i just found this image quickly to get attention for my question

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 01:43:48 2022 No.15004855 >>15004755 The Space Shuttle was hardly a paragon of safe spacefaring...

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 01:45:48 2022 No.15004858 File: 64 KB, 747x433, eml2 leo farqu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15004830 they are not absolutely stable in a n>3 body system however

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 01:46:18 2022 No.15004859 File: 142 KB, 1425x679, Screenshot 2022-11-21 at 19-45-45 STS-1 - Wikipedia.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15004755

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 01:46:44 2022 No.15004860 >>15004818 There is a Hullo video about Lagrange points

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 01:47:26 2022 No.15004862 >>15004853 It will take at least a decade for that to happen, and if it's still in service it willmost likely get a refueling mission. If we don't do that than it would drift towards an orbit around the Sun probably

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 01:47:50 2022 No.15004863

>>15004755
Artemis 1 doesn't have a completed Orion capsule. The life support system is still in development. If you wanted to wait for that to be finished so a crew would be able to breathe you'd need to delay the launch for at least another year or two.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 01:48:57 2022 No.15004864 >>15004858 cool image what's the Shrek route?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 01:51:09 2022 No.15004871 >>15004730 Delayed till tomorrow Still bad weather 20% fav, and some more pre-checkouts

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 01:51:31 2022 No.15004872

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1594869942918127616
>Standing down from tonight’s launch of the Eutelsat 10B mission to allow for additional pre-flight checkouts; now targeting tomorrow, November 22 at 9:57 p.m. ET for liftoff. Weather is currently 20% favorable

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 02:03:08 2022 No.15004892 File: 123 KB, 1451x792, slow-motion-video-of-starship-sn10-explosive-landing-is-pure-poetry-157212_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15004684 But they already failed multiple times.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 02:03:45 2022 No.15004895 >>15004872 Se terminó.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 02:05:43 2022 No.15004898 File: 142 KB, 350x321, pepi.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15004749 it looks weird I like our side better

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 02:05:52 2022 No.15004900 >>15004684 fast, often

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 02:08:46 2022 No.15004904 >>15004860 thanks for the lead >>15004862 that's reassuring, thanks for the reply

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 02:09:04 2022 No.15004906 >>15004749 This photo is the visual equivalent of jerking yourself off with your non-dominant hand.

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 02:13:45 2022 No.15004918

>>15004631
>TENGOO - TElescopic Nadir imager for GeOmOrphology, a narrow field camera for detailed terrain study
>OROCHI - Optical RadiOmeter composed of CHromatic Imagers, a wide field visible light camera
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martian_Moons_eXploration_(MMX)#Scientific_payload
This might be the first time we will see a planet from the surface of a moon other than the Earth from Moon POV. Massive Kino if it works.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 02:24:07 2022 No.15004940 >>15004846 If you put the solar system to scale on your monitor, you would see nothing. I guess a gravity view of the solar system would also be almost nothing beyond the sun's gravity and maybe a bit of Jupiter.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 02:25:32 2022 No.15004941 >>15004918 >might Is, surely. Only other moon-landing was Huygens on Titan, whose atmosphere ought to block shots of Saturn.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 02:29:58 2022 No.15004953 >>15004863 oldspace development is a comedy to those who think and a tragedy to those who feel

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 02:31:08 2022 No.15004954 File: 90 KB, 1403x213, firefox_2022-11-21_21-28-16.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Some new speculative motive physics theory, thoughts? Is he right or just pseudobabbling?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 02:32:46 2022 No.15004957 >>15004954 >just pseudobabbling? You have to ask?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 02:33:15 2022 No.15004959 >>15004940 >If you put the solar system to scale on your monitor, you would see nothing. For reference: https://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/pixelspace_solarsystem.html

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 02:38:10 2022 No.15004962 >>15004941 It's sadge you can't see Saturn from Titan's Surface. I'd like If we could get a lander in a jovian moon during my lifetime. Imagine a pic from Callisto's surface with Jupiter and the other 3 moons in the background.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 02:43:13 2022 No.15004967 File: 88 KB, 781x521, artist-impression-of-saturn-view-from- iapetus.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15004962 Titan is in the ring plane so you wouldn't see shit anyway. Iapetus will be the tourist spot

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 02:45:26 2022 No.15004969 File: 135 KB, 1042x1042, Mmxspacecraft_0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15004918 If there ever was a spacecraft that needed Orion style solar array wing cameras...

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 02:51:55 2022 No.15004988 File: 3.66 MB, 2432x3648, Reliant_Robin_Space_Shuttle_-_Top_Gear_(5963792406).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] never 5get

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 02:52:46 2022 No.15004990 >>15004988 we gaan?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 02:53:28 2022 No.15004991 So we still don't have photos from closest approach?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 02:56:17 2022 No.15005000 >>15004967 walnut moon is cool

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 02:57:18 2022 No.15005002 >>15004991 too close, camera couldn't focus

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 02:58:33 2022 No.15005004 File: 2.84 MB, 1920x1012, KSC-20221116--MH-FMX-01-0001-Artemis 1 slowmo liftoff-3314595~orig.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 02:58:35 2022 No.15005005 >>15004954 Purely, absolutely, 100% true Especially the part about Odin

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 02:59:08 2022 No.15005006 File: 2.85 MB, 1920x1080, Artemis I - Rocket Camera Footage~orig - 0.00.05-0.00.28.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:06:54 2022 No.15005022 >>15005004 chumps on /sfg/ were saying night launches weren't kino. what's wrong with their brains?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:18:38 2022 No.15005049 File: 2.81 MB, 640x480, 1600475424294.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15004988 >>15004990 we gaan m8

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:20:19 2022 No.15005054 >>15005006 looks like the drywall on my apartment

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:20:56 2022 No.15005056 File: 218 KB, 2048x1272, LM2F Y13.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15005022 All rocket launches are Kino

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:22:29 2022 No.15005061 File: 177 KB, 795x1024, 4F88B963-2622-4935-9BE9-38673C21171D.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Throw on the Titan SRBs and you can go anywhere

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:24:52 2022 No.15005071 File: 443 KB, 1280x1600, B96BC9C8-83FD-4935-90A6-8E9186DC54C7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15005061 Handsome rocket Handsome men For me, it’s GT-X

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:25:49 2022 No.15005077 >>15004419 /pol/ here. We don’t actually believe that space is fake or that the Earth is flat. That’s just kikes and glories trying to subvert the board with retarded nonsense.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:27:40 2022 No.15005083 File: 490 KB, 1142x888, 6-Figure2-1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] fun trips with cool friends

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:28:48 2022 No.15005087 >>15005071 collins and young sure were good looking in their heyday, dang

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:29:40 2022 No.15005089 >>15005083 I do wonder what space colonization will look like 50-100 years into the future. You know, past the “Starship era” but still way before we have fusion drives that can cross the solar system in a few days.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:31:24 2022 No.15005095 File: 20 KB, 399x600, B731537D-E8F9-41A7-8F78-2D5021A77FB8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Jesus Christ he looks like an actor

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:31:44 2022 No.15005096 >>15005089 The same it is now: nothing. We will have research outposts soon if everything goes right, but colonization is far from us.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:33:08 2022 No.15005102 >>15005096 Why?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:33:31 2022 No.15005105 >>15005095 Kino

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:33:31 2022 No.15005104 >>15005089 Research outposts, maybe some mining if it's economically viable. Biggest economic potential is tourism imo since it could easily be a trillion dollar market.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:35:37 2022 No.15005113 >>15005104 children in africa could be drinking that hydrolox

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:44:07 2022 No.15005124 Who has the highest chance of securing this meme “second option” HLS contract? Reminder that national team is legally dead

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:45:45 2022 No.15005125 >>15005124 4ASS

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:46:56 2022 No.15005126 File: 1.30 MB, 1170x2232, 867E1120-2F55-4558-B67D-FFB78DC03B84.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15005124 Wait hold up this is on the website as we speak. What the fuck did they mean by this

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:49:43 2022 No.15005129 >>15005126 >shit bid >don’t get chosen >sue >lawsuit fails >“we were chosen by NASA to go” wut

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 03:50:25 2022 No.15005130 >>15004235 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDp1tiUsZw8

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:04:34 2022 No.15005142 File: 324 KB, 2558x1440, FiH3ZCvUYAA_qDn.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >EXPENDABLE DOORS

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:06:42 2022 No.15005146 >>15004749 Where's the Nazi moon base?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:10:19 2022 No.15005153 File: 1.52 MB, 2007x1501, here.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15005146

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:11:16 2022 No.15005156

>>15005142
kek
>>15005124
wait now that the dust has settled, WHAT was meant by the whole ‘Option B’ thing or whatever? It was all very confusing. The key point was that they wanted a second lander, but they want an updated Starship design after the initial HLS moonship landing right?
As far as I understand it: Lueders basically said “we will have new rules for this second option but we also want starship to follow these rules” which leads me to believe the second option will have a “no more than X to the surface” rule and they want SeX to nerf the lander for the sake of competition

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:14:21 2022 No.15005159 https://video.ibm.com/channel/b4dEcL3bJKW

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:15:54 2022 No.15005161

>>15005156
Option B is sustainable lunar lander for SpaceX only (Artemis IV and forward)

Then theres the current second lunar lander competition going on now sans SpaceX

NASA recognizes that HLS Starship is probably gonna be the king, like Crew Dragon is now, and they want its full capability to start being utilized by Artemis IV hence Option B

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:17:07 2022 No.15005164 >>15005161 So Option B is a buffed Starship for maximum sustainability?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:17:53 2022 No.15005167 >>15005164 Yep

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:18:53 2022 No.15005168 >>15005167 Also reusability I think, like try to make it reusable, imagine it being refilled then redocking at Gateway for another lunar sortie

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:19:15 2022 No.15005169 https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/products/compact-fusion.html Thoughts on the lockheed martin compact fusion reactor?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:19:53 2022 No.15005170 >>15005169 I want to cum on it

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:20:35 2022 No.15005171 >>15005168 Can't HLS do that already? Although honestly the pain of transporting all that fuel to Lunar orbit probably isn't worth it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:20:58 2022 No.15005172 >>15005169 If it hasnt been demonstrated IRL it doesn't exist, get your faggot paper energy away from me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:21:29 2022 No.15005173 >>15005171 >Can't HLS do that already? Dunno maybe the one after Artemis III (Option B) will

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:23:20 2022 No.15005174 >>15005168 I wonder if this is in connection to Berger’s random “oh yeah HLS can rendezvous back with a dragon in LEO” he casually dropped from his, quote, insider Because if this option is true then Starship is going to be a beast of a rocket

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:24:31 2022 No.15005177 >>15005174 there’s no way it’s possible but also I’ve been proven wrong too many times by pesky little spacex

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:25:30 2022 No.15005179 >>15005177 aerocapture into earth orbit and then rendezvous :)

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:26:43 2022 No.15005184

>>15005174
>HLS can rendezvous back with a dragon in LEO
Ohhh fuckkk

now I'm imagining a supplemental Artemis mission that doesn't involve Gateway but
>HLS launch
>HLS fueled up at depot
>Crew Dragon launch
>Dragon docks to HLS
>crew transfers
>HLS TLI
>HLS lands on the Moon, at a crater, at a lava tube/cave, at a former Apollo site, etc
>HLS departs
>returns to LEO
>crew dock to Dragon
>return home

I M A G I N E

Just a way to squeeze more lunar EVA's out of Starship and not rely on once a year SLS for it or Gateway or NRHO

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:28:27 2022 No.15005189 >>15005184 God the thought of doing Shuttle style 1-2 week short space stays but on the moon with Starship gets me excited

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:29:37 2022 No.15005191

>>15005177
>Get fully refueled HLS in LEO
>Rendezvous and dock with Dragon
>Transfer to moon with capsule still attached
>leave Dragon in Lunar orbit, land and do mission
>rendezvous back with Dragon
>use HLS to put it into a return trajectory
Dragon would only be 1/10th of its total payload, so it's totally doable.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:29:39 2022 No.15005192 File: 109 KB, 900x675, 1599734952659.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15005126 >blue balls >>15005129 >“chosen by NASA” probably written before they were NOT chosen, and they were too shell-shocked to remove it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:31:11 2022 No.15005195 can we just think about how crazy it was BO tried to use a hydrogen engine on their space tourism platform

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:32:02 2022 No.15005198 >>15005169 Fusion is always only ten years away.

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:32:11 2022 No.15005199

>>15005184
Yeah this is basically the unicorn of Artemis though because a) it completely kills Orion—and by extension SLS, and b) it assumes SS has a LOT of delta v. Which idk, it might? But no one knows how much it will actually end up with. Also it doesn’t have tiles so aerobreaking is out of the question save for very high atmosphere skims to shave a liiiittle energy off. It’s going to need some HUGE tanks for this to be possible
If it is possible (and, if it is, NASA and spacex are certainly talking about it right now) then they might go with a second lander that utilizes SLS so the orange rocket still has something to do. This would still kill Orion though. Not sure if that’s possible

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:32:31 2022 No.15005200 >>15005198 That's been true since the 60s

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:35:40 2022 No.15005204

>>15005199
is it basically confirmed that SLS won’t be able to manage more than one launch a year? Personally I don’t see it happening. If you use SLS for a lander it will need to hang around in space for 12 months until another SLS can be built for Orion to bring astronauts up to it
Unless NASA is based enough to do commercial crew for Artemis
Hell maybe one of the requirements for the new lander will be “deliver X tons to the lunar surface, and be able to return to LEO with a crew” THAT would be insane

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:42:53 2022 No.15005207 >>15005204 Sls cadence is more like every 2-3 years, more with delays.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:47:07 2022 No.15005211 Could Europa Clipper be launched in a Starship instead of FH if SS is good enough by then?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:47:27 2022 No.15005213 >>15005207 We live in a society

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:48:59 2022 No.15005215 >>15005211 I could see there being some c3 fuckery but probably

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:51:18 2022 No.15005219 >>15005215 I would think vibrations would be an issue

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:52:09 2022 No.15005221 >>15005219 Will we even know anything about the starship vibration environment until it launches

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:52:53 2022 No.15005223 >>15005221 No i’m just speculating though

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>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:56:03 2022 No.15005235 >>15005226 VGH I was just thinking of nauty the other night

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:56:31 2022 No.15005238 >>15005215 I'm kinda sad the FH option will make the trip longer. Clipper arriving in 3 years could be the one good thing the SLS could have done. >>15005219 The Wikipedia page mentions vibration as one of the reasons FH was chosen.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:56:34 2022 No.15005240 >>15005211 I mean, maybe, but there's no reason to. Redesigning it for SS would cost more than enough to overcome any savings.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:57:09 2022 No.15005242 >>15005226 it amazes me how well the design has held up

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:58:18 2022 No.15005247 >>15005235 if gateway ever gets a ring module I'll take back everything bad I've said about it. At that point it would practically be an interplanetary transfer vehicle, and a pretty robust one at that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 04:58:22 2022 No.15005248 >>15005238 Yeah I know but we’re talking about ss not fh

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:03:27 2022 No.15005256

>>15005204
>is it basically confirmed that SLS won’t be able to manage more than one launch a year?
They can't even BUILD them that fast.
>If you use SLS for a lander it will need to hang around in space for 12 months
Yeah, not with hydrolox in its tanks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:03:49 2022 No.15005257 >>15004440 Cute!

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:05:06 2022 No.15005259 >>15005257 Is there a dreamchaser gijinka?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:05:45 2022 No.15005260 >>15004456 That's pocket money, usually used by Boing on bribes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:10:06 2022 No.15005270 >>15004602 OLM2 delays are expected. A bunch of changes have to happen for orbital launch at Boca Chica, and those changes will undoubtedly be translated to OLM2 and BC and RR -> 39-A and SLIC-40/+

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:17:03 2022 No.15005288 >>15005049 >bong space program

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:21:09 2022 No.15005300 File: 470 KB, 1198x791, firefox_2022-11-22_00-20-36.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://video.ibm.com/channel/b4dEcL3bJKW IT'S UP

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:22:10 2022 No.15005303 >>15005300 Just performed a minor thruster firing, aaaaaaaaa

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:23:06 2022 No.15005305 >>15005300 There was a pulsating star thing just now. Also, why is it surrounded by this purple glow?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:26:19 2022 No.15005309 >>15005300 is it slowly tumbling to spread out the sun's heat? or did it just move a little to get the moon in the shot?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:26:19 2022 No.15005310 File: 454 KB, 1196x671, firefox_2022-11-22_00-25-57.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] MOON

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:26:49 2022 No.15005311 >>15005300 >>15005310 low quality cg... they aren't even trying

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:28:26 2022 No.15005316 File: 429 KB, 1920x1080, [1920x1080] vtime=[66_13_09_29], take=[2022-11-21 23.28.14].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] wtf did nsf hack orion

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:30:17 2022 No.15005322 File: 277 KB, 1196x673, moony.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why is the aspect ratio still fucked? The moon still looks like an egg. I hope we get laser communication soon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:31:18 2022 No.15005325 Also, is this being recorded? I could see this stream being lost because of a fuck up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:31:32 2022 No.15005326 >>15005113 If they did we might have more resources left over for space colonization.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:32:24 2022 No.15005327 >>15005089 lol human will never go to another planet you failed as a species

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:33:37 2022 No.15005328
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Flat earth and the space hoax has taken off the last 6 years because people have looked at the ridiculous footages from the moon landings.
If they lie about the moon why wouldn't they lie about the shape of the earth?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:33:50 2022 No.15005329 >>15005327 >you we got an ayy here bros

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:35:47 2022 No.15005333 File: 188 KB, 675x499, hell.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15005328

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:38:41 2022 No.15005338 >>15005325 Theys aid it sihtihtatt so its fine

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:39:18 2022 No.15005340 >>15005338 >Theys aid it sihtihtatt another ayy for fucks sake

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:40:12 2022 No.15005341 Why do they have so much trouble streaming? Even Apollo was able to do hour-long TV broadcasts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:41:21 2022 No.15005344 File: 415 KB, 1050x700, FiIk4BbWQAEMdrz.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:41:36 2022 No.15005345 >>15005341 No racism or misogyny on /sfg/, please. Thank you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:42:50 2022 No.15005347 >>15004820 Wait what? How does it work actually wtf i can't believe i never questioned it. So there's no permanently dark side of the moon?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:44:05 2022 No.15005350 File: 998 KB, 1920x1080, firefox_2022-11-22_00-41-30.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Spex pad looks goode at night

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:44:47 2022 No.15005351 File: 292 KB, 700x700, 1646254408133.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15005333 checked and saved in my SLS folder

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:45:04 2022 No.15005352 >>15005347 That's a retarded term. It's better called the far side of the moon or the hidden side of the moon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:45:05 2022 No.15005353 >>15005347 How do you think new moon happens

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:45:37 2022 No.15005355 File: 216 KB, 990x2070, 2FF80CE9-78D6-4D1C-A75B-938045C82117.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don’t know what I’m doing with my life

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:46:11 2022 No.15005357 >>15005142 Don't knock them. They worked a treat for Hitler.

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:47:00 2022 No.15005358

>>15005353
>>15005352
I literally cannot picture it in my head how moon phases and stuff happens I may need to bring out paint and start doodling so I can maybe understand it. Let's see... The moon always has one face that's locked looking towards earth. That face is fully lit during a full moon, so the sun is behind the earth, and then... during a new moon the sun is behind the moon? So on our view it's dark but the moon is in fact actually lit up on the other side?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:48:01 2022 No.15005361 >>15005355 you're posting on 4chan, and your mom is gonna bring you chicken tendies if you go to sleep as she want

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:51:02 2022 No.15005364 >>15005358 The moon is tidally locked with Earth, this means its rotation is in sync with its orbit, so the same side always faces Earth and the other never does. The Moon phases are the Moon's day cycle.

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:51:31 2022 No.15005365
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>>15005361
Yeah but I’m halfway through pre med and I’m just so fed up with it. I have a test tomorrow for some stupid philosophy elective and I’m afraid. I have a 4.0 GPA halfway through college and suddenly this semester I’m sucking. I had to drop two classes this semester, too.

I don’t know if I’m gonna make it to space, man.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:56:45 2022 No.15005370 File: 444 KB, 512x512, 1663731802209514.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15005365 You're already in it. It's better to seek help and do well than to wither.

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 05:58:22 2022 No.15005374
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>>15005365
I have to make a bullshit assignment that's due next week and then study for 3 math tests for early December, one of them I'll suck at, I almost want to give up and accept my reality as a thirdie.
But you are probably not a thirdie, your college course is probably harder but also much more prestigious than mine. Keep going anon, you will beat this, and you will touch the stars while riding on Musk's rocket.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 06:01:20 2022 No.15005376 File: 867 KB, 1818x1678, Apollo12ConradSurveyor.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 06:05:23 2022 No.15005381

>>15005358
>during a new moon the sun is behind the moon? So on our view it's dark but the moon is in fact actually lit up on the other side?
YUP

I actually just realized this recently after following https://www.nasa.gov/specials/trackartemis/

Seeing Orion on the dark near side, and then zooming out and seeing the bright far side and went OH!

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 06:08:06 2022 No.15005385 >>15005179 Bingo -X

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 06:11:05 2022 No.15005388 >>15005189 the plan is surface stays up to a month

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 06:12:47 2022 No.15005391 >>15005333 >>15005351 I'm not a regular on /sfg/, and I only know surface level things about the SLS. What exactly did NASA do wrong with the project?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 06:13:58 2022 No.15005393 >>15004528 probably weather, but they also do a bunch of spook shit sounding rocket testing up there so who knows.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 06:14:04 2022 No.15005394 >>15005385 aren't you a little young to be posting on /sfg/, X? get back to playing with your model rockets

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 06:14:07 2022 No.15005395 >>15005169 they gave up on that not even a year after announcing. it's fission now

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 06:14:56 2022 No.15005397 >>15005395 Lies

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 06:15:41 2022 No.15005398 >>15005347 It's like how one 'side' of Earth is in daytime, and one in nighttime at all times, except the Moon is tidally locked so that there's only one side we ever see, and we see it whether that side is in 'day' or 'night'.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 06:16:44 2022 No.15005400 >>15005311 NASA budget not as high as it was in 1969

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 06:19:10 2022 No.15005403 File: 3 KB, 85x88, xcom_logo85.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15005394 that's big X to you

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 06:21:09 2022 No.15005405

>>15005391
Too expensive, less capable than the Saturn V, took forever to be developed, will only fly every two years (probably more realistically), scrubs too much, keeps fueling in money to incompetent corporations, is made with outdated concepts (fully expendable), makes Artemis not be an economically sustainable program, sucks money that could be invested into other projects.

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 06:27:12 2022 No.15005409
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>>15005391
Would've made more sense as the National Launch System in the 1990s.
After the deeply flawed Constellation Program was cancelled, Congress passed a law forcing NASA to build SLS, and specified that they should reuse shuttle contractors and shuttle components to the greatest extent practicable.
This meant that they would take the most expensive, most complex launch vehicle in regular service, and frankenstein it into an entirely new vehicle.
That's bad enough, but the contracting process created no incentive to get anything done punctually, cheaply, or effectively, and the contractors (and NASA management/oversight) have failed to deliver on any of those points. Capability-wise, it's not ambitious, and yet the program is extremely expensive, and behind key milestones by six+ years without even getting to a decent level of maturity.
'Sustainable' lunar operations become a joke, as the maximum production cadence for SLS is two per year, and the cost per launch is in the billions.
It's the epitome of everything wrong with the space contracting system, and the post-Apollo space program.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 06:32:25 2022 No.15005414 File: 2.99 MB, 800x1026, 1608583148646.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15005391

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 06:34:25 2022 No.15005416 >>15004872 >additional pre-flight checkouts I thought launches were routine by now. Why can't spacex ever be a competent reliable company like Boeing

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 06:39:09 2022 No.15005423 >>15005391 the most powerful rocket in the world, made in America baby

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 06:47:24 2022 No.15005432

>>15004419
all the space is fake posters are, and have always been, off site raiders poisoning the well
if you actually pay attention instead of playing the confirmation bias game, you'll notice that virtually all of the flat earth shitposters use memeflags
the only exception is an Israeli that uses a Norwegian VPN, he's been doing this shit near daily for literal years

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 06:52:16 2022 No.15005437

>>15005405
>>15005409
>>15005414
Thats disappointing, theres no way procurement was always this much of a shit-show for NASA.
As a follow-up is there any hope for the Artemis program? Are we even going to get the Deep Space Gateway?
I greatly appreciate your knowledge and space autism anons.

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 06:56:17 2022 No.15005445

>>15005437
Gateway is needed for the SLS plan, so it will probably be made.
The hope for Artemis is Starship. If it is proven to be reliable and cheap, not only frequent moon mission will be a possibility, but a ground moon base will finally be a possibility, and many other deep space exploration missions (both probes and manned).

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 07:07:29 2022 No.15005457

>>15005437
The politicking over Space Shuttle development is comparable, except skewed towards ruining the concept, rather than the execution (which went better than one would expect, given the circumstances).
But yeah, the days when NASA could issue an RFP and get a mission-ready product in one-two years are gone.
Biggest lesson of the ISS was how to have long-running programs that don't get cancelled on politicians' whims. Space stations need vehicles to access them, and vehicles need destinations; this relation has underpinned human spaceflight since the 1970s. Gateway is NASA's application of those lessons: SLS and Starship need appropriate destinations (lunar infrastructure) and all the international partners make cancelling it a dubious proposition, even with schedules slipping as badly as they have. And with China clearly aiming towards an expanded crewed lunar program, wider politics also favors an effort in Cislunar space.
If Starship performs to spec, of course, then a substantially wider series of options opens up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 07:13:19 2022 No.15005467 >>15005457 >Gateway is NASA's application of those lessons This is why I can accept Gateway, even though I'd prefer them to invest right into a ground base.

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 07:13:51 2022 No.15005468

>>15005445
>not only frequent moon mission will be a possibility, but a ground moon base will finally be a possibility, and many other deep space exploration missions (both probes and manned).
Wishful thinking. Congress and the other major players will not allow for that cooperative future, think back to why the Apollo budget was axed. Thus the future of space is corporate interests and practical projects with returns worth the projected costs.
The only light in this darkness is SpaceX and their plan to monetize the outer reaches of space by creating a viable economic zone around Mars.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 07:14:26 2022 No.15005470 >>15005432 are all the ocasional antisemites here also well poisoners?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 07:18:22 2022 No.15005474 File: 83 KB, 913x1024, ha.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15005470 >occasional

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 07:18:42 2022 No.15005475

>>15005468
I know the congress is a bitch, but scientific missions do happen, and they are getting quite frequent lately. A cheap Starship will mean we will be free from the slow process of gravity assists and getting to the outer solar system won't take the 10+ years wait it usually does.
Also, it will be possible to launch big telescopes in one piece without having to depend on complicated (and expensive) unfolding to do it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 07:20:25 2022 No.15005476 >>15005474 I've seen someone here calling Isaacman the greatest man in current spaceflight once, and various times have seen anons have the opposite of stereotypical /pol/tard opinions.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 07:20:45 2022 No.15005477 >>15005470 there is absolutely nothing wrong with hating jewish behavior especially when it actively cripples spaceflight

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 07:24:23 2022 No.15005483 >>15005477 Well, I can tolerate some /pol/jaks since they scare the sensitive away from here. But it gets annoying.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 08:19:27 2022 No.15005514 >>15005476 I am perfectly capable of simultaneously despising Jews and greatly admiring Isaacman.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 08:22:33 2022 No.15005518 >>15005476 >>15005514 Isaacman is a great man idgaf what anyone says

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 08:34:15 2022 No.15005527

>>15005358
Here's another helpful way to think about it: Throughout the lunar month, the time of day on Earth during which the moon is highest in the sky shifts continuously. On a full moon, the moon is highest near solar midnight, as the part of the moon's surface lit by the sun is most visible to us. On a new moon, the moon's apex is in the middle of the solar day, because the side of the moon facing us is entirely facing away from the sun. So not only is the moon not lit up during a new moon, it also is usually only visible during the day.
If everything lines up perfectly, the moon is exactly new or full just as it is crossing the Earth-Sun ecliptic plane, and the result is an eclipse. A solar eclipse can only occur on a new moon, and a lunar eclipse can only occur on a full moon.

>Also I might be retarded, I only just realized why it's called the ecliptic plane, because that's when an eclipse can occur

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 08:45:46 2022 No.15005532 Omotenashi will not land. Complete failure

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 08:54:23 2022 No.15005541 All those cubesats are fucking dead, lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 08:55:39 2022 No.15005542 >>15005532 >the only two interesting payloads died due to the delays Fuck this shit. What's left? The camera cubesat that takes pictures of Orion from a distance?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 08:59:28 2022 No.15005545 File: 38 KB, 324x415, 1669039840942762.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Stamp bro where are you :( We need your help to collect this historical stamp depicting the saviour of spaceflight.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 09:11:31 2022 No.15005559 File: 88 KB, 640x960, 286.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15005545 While you were shitposting, he studied the stamp. And now you have the audacity to come to him for help?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 09:22:20 2022 No.15005568 File: 180 KB, 750x555, 5FCE4723-1BAE-4A18-9D1E-1711B3730FA0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15005545 NTA but some of my stamps

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 09:23:40 2022 No.15005571 File: 297 KB, 982x750, C2AA9013-C5DB-4B10-A52C-079EB6F332B9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15005568

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 09:25:38 2022 No.15005574 File: 447 KB, 750x650, F64D9F6C-52DA-415A-8AC9-BB3D837A08EA.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15005571 I got much more, could post them one day

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 09:54:00 2022 No.15005615 >>15004626 It would be cool if it was like a spider and dug its legs into the the ground to move.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 10:15:49 2022 No.15005636 >>15004692 sorry, I killed him

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 10:25:58 2022 No.15005645 >>15004456 it's reusable though

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 10:34:53 2022 No.15005654 >america was the first to go to the moon 50 years ago >they'll also be the second to the moon really, what is the excuse of the other 250 countries out there?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 10:38:36 2022 No.15005657 >>15005654 you mean the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th and now 7th

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 11:07:41 2022 No.15005686 >>15005654 Russia has the excuse that they were forced to waste nearly 15 years building a Shuttle analog that put all advanced space projects on hold and killed any momentum they might have had

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 11:24:07 2022 No.15005715 >>15005654 There are 197 countries m8

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 11:56:29 2022 No.15005771 >>15005686 They probably could have landed a man on The moon by 1980 had they kept launching the N1, even at a once per year rate (although it was more once every 2 years by 1973/1974)

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 12:08:05 2022 No.15005781 >>15005686 They fell for the psyop, its not an excuse.

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 12:38:27 2022 No.15005812

>>15005468
What will have to happen is a shift from grafting launch and delivery into grafting a permanent lunar base. The 10x-100x reduction in launch costs will allow this.
The problem is that launch graft is so deeply ingrained in the Space Industrial Complex that they really don't know how to do anything else. They will continue to sit and screech, instead of adjusting to the new economic reality.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 12:40:42 2022 No.15005814 JFK held in a sneeze today, 59 years ago. I wonder how the space race would have differed if he didn't die

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 12:44:32 2022 No.15005818 File: 476 KB, 680x680, 1600900612985.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15005686 >forced Baited, yes. Forced no.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 12:48:38 2022 No.15005820 >i-Space has laid off half of its employees, number reduced from 600+ to 300+ https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1594771745759559682 another chinese commerical rocket bites the dust

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 12:54:29 2022 No.15005824 >>15005654 >why isn't everyone wasting billions on sending people to a fucking airless rock??

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 12:57:40 2022 No.15005829 >>15005824 countries naturally want to expand, conquer, and colonize. those who dont colonize space will be at the mercy of those who do.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 12:59:53 2022 No.15005831 >SLS destroyed its own launchpad I don't get this reusable launchpad meme

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 13:02:52 2022 No.15005833 >>15005824 They're too busy wasting billions on not going beyond LEO/GEO.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 13:05:17 2022 No.15005837 >>15004217 LITERALLY 3 cardboard cutouts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 13:10:23 2022 No.15005843 File: 53 KB, 1144x612, Red Riding In the Year of Our Lord 1974 poof.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15005824 >30x the mass of the asteroid belt sitting at the edge of Earths gravity well > 'What possible use could it have? idgi'

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 13:31:32 2022 No.15005868
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>>15005831
Block 2 doesn’t even fit in the tower so they need a brand new one anyways
(lol so much for “common parts will save us money bc we can use infrastructure we already have!”)

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 14:03:11 2022 No.15005887 File: 1.26 MB, 2520x1384, 1663942350350.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] virgin orbit in cornwall. still no launch license.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 14:16:18 2022 No.15005894 >>15004422 They're mostly trolls (the ones making money), and then the real dumb people who believe them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 14:24:02 2022 No.15005901 >>15005868 Half of the problem was because they installed standard office building elevator doors facing directly into the rocket plume.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 14:37:31 2022 No.15005918 >>15005901 Did an aggie design this shit??? Or, I guess, the point was to let it get destroyed enough to warrant repair (pronounced “jobs”) after every launch

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 14:44:38 2022 No.15005924 File: 170 KB, 1280x853, FiJTgcOXgAEDZAt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >roscosmos website won't load Damn, where can I get the non-twitterfucked photos then?

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 14:47:09 2022 No.15005928
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Bros I’m afraid. I might have to chose between my dream of flying in space, and my relationship with my girlfriend. We are both going to different states to pursue our post-grad degrees (I’m gonna go to medschool, she’s getting a phd). I don’t know if our relationship will actually succeed if we’re so far apart because we’ve been together for so long that we’re always close and within a few minutes away.
On the other hand, my dream is to pass the Karman line. I don’t care if it’s on a Blue Origin hop, I just want to go to space. Part of me wants to pursue going to space, but it also seems like such a lonely path. Physicians have one of the highest rates of suicide in all professions.
It feels like an impossible choice and I wish I could see into the future.

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 14:51:43 2022 No.15005937

>>15005928
You are a massive faggot for posting this coupled with the fact that you are the cyberpunk spammer but since you seem driven and useful, know this: There will be women on Mars, and always more fish in the sea. The only relationship that matters is the one where you father healthy children into the most ideal environment. You have a paper relationship.

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 14:56:06 2022 No.15005941

>>15004419
What’s more likely, that there’s been a successful, secret global conspiracy for hundreds if not thousands of years to fake every manner of evidence about the shape of the planet and the nature of the cosmos, including basically all of astronomy and much of physics, history, geography and geology; or that Artemis I actually succeeded in launching a dummy payload?

That’s why I’m a flat earther.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 14:57:47 2022 No.15005943 >>15005941 Lmao. It’s hilarious when Flat Earth gets to the point that even fucking airplane pilots are in on the conspiracy. Like no dude, 52 year old Rufus from Indiana flying a Cessna is not in on some grand conspiracy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 14:58:43 2022 No.15005945 File: 88 KB, 1256x102, 1646569202571.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 14:59:45 2022 No.15005948 File: 57 KB, 2500x2500, 1641503413868.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15004959

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 15:00:37 2022 No.15005950 >>15004650 >filtered by ordinals NGMI

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 15:02:14 2022 No.15005954 File: 365 KB, 1920x1200, 1662189440708.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If the lunar lander starship tipped and fell over on the moon would it be visible from earth? Its pretty big right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 15:05:57 2022 No.15005957 >>15004729 Probably the same thing stopping me from using my supermodel wife’s face like a fleshlight (contradicts no laws of physics and requires no innovations in engineering, btw)

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 15:08:01 2022 No.15005959 File: 92 KB, 557x817, nasa mp5 ksc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15005943 Don't forget every artillery company and long range sniper

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 15:08:28 2022 No.15005961 >>15005924 https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/images/index.html

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 15:09:15 2022 No.15005963 >>15004814 The enlightened centrist wins again: develop enough infrastructure in space to make the colonies self-sustaining and get a sufficient number of dinosaur killers queued up, then fix Earth as soon as possible.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 15:10:16 2022 No.15005964 >>15004820 The Elon kind of African or the bad kind?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 15:10:43 2022 No.15005966 >>15005961 What the fuck is NASA's obsession with unsorted image dumps? Also all of those are very old.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 15:12:27 2022 No.15005967 >>15005941 don't give them (You)s at the very least take off one of the meme arrows so it doesn't link up

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 15:13:19 2022 No.15005968 >>15005966 Oh shit well idk where to find it besides the main image library. They’re being extra gay about taking forever with the Artemis images, with everything going to twitter first. Idk where all the extra roscosmos images even go

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 15:15:44 2022 No.15005971 >>15005964 >thought half of the sun was dark

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 15:17:59 2022 No.15005976 >>15005259 plenty here: https://killyourselffaggot.org/yourwrists

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 15:25:43 2022 No.15005982 File: 489 KB, 2560x720, rain and rain.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's over for space flight.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 15:31:41 2022 No.15005991 >>15005971 >the sun at night, as seen from Wakanda

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 15:34:40 2022 No.15005995 >>15005982 all that burnt hydrolox

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 15:36:29 2022 No.15005999 currently live https://video.ibm.com/channel/b4dEcL3bJKW

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 15:39:14 2022 No.15006004 >>15005999 I aint clicking that shit nigga

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 15:44:19 2022 No.15006011 File: 521 KB, 1280x720, waterfox_VJ7QLKurNN.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15006004 your loss

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 15:45:45 2022 No.15006013 >>15006004 >Zoomer doesn't know what IBM is yah that shit is a virus, fr fr no cap

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 15:47:04 2022 No.15006016 >>15006004 nigger

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 15:49:34 2022 No.15006020

More leaks from Los Dos
>Don’t expect any more static fires until December 5
>Concrete is kind of an issue. It’s gotten better but now it just fucking melts. Improvement over when it almost killed SN8.
>Ship 24 and Booster 7 are doing very well. Ship 24 might get another 6 engine static fire, or just a single to test the related RVac.
>Booster 7 testing future a bit uncertain. The new “20 second static fire” might have anywhere from 3 to 11 engines
>After that, no info

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 15:52:11 2022 No.15006023 File: 58 KB, 590x644, steve-jobs-flips-ibm-3112-4118160785.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15006004 ...i-it's ibm. w-what's the problem?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 15:52:15 2022 No.15006024 >>15006020 Also there’s some already-known info >14 engine static fire was perfect, all engines did well. >No info on what the fuck is happening to S24 at the moment That’s all

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 15:56:05 2022 No.15006031 File: 161 KB, 1000x667, project babylon barrel section.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15005477 Remember what they took from you

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 16:06:11 2022 No.15006046 >>15006031 A gigantic waste of money?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 16:06:55 2022 No.15006047 >>15006031 Tie me to an artillery round and fire me into space. I am ready.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 16:08:14 2022 No.15006048 >>15005982 Equatorbros…

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 16:10:19 2022 No.15006050 File: 293 KB, 1719x967, EE94010C-294E-4E48-AA95-B962AEF4213A.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] so are the new boosters going to be black or have a stainless steel jacket or something?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 16:11:54 2022 No.15006051 >>15006050 They are going to sabotage SLS because OmegA wasn’t chosen

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 16:24:54 2022 No.15006057 File: 31 KB, 615x355, wvb Gerald Bull.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15006031 the visionary engineer phenotype is real

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 16:25:11 2022 No.15006058 >>15006050 This is what will get us to Mars

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 16:26:35 2022 No.15006062
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>Europe has to boost its strategic autonomy in space to compete with the likes of China and the United States, French Economy Minister Bruno Le Maire said Tuesday.
>"There must be a single Europe, a single European space policy and unwavering unity to face Chinese ambitions and American ambitions," said Le Maire.
https://www.politico.eu/article/bruno-le-maire-europe-needs-unwavering-unity-against-china-us-in-space/

all words, no actions

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 16:27:36 2022 No.15006064 >>15005982 lets get more launches out of vandenberg

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 16:32:23 2022 No.15006070 >>15006050 >BOLE >Booster Obsolescence and Life Extension literally on life support

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 16:39:33 2022 No.15006077 File: 32 KB, 656x679, pepe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15006062 nobody wants to fund ESA because nobody feels it's their program NOT MY PROGRAM

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 16:41:39 2022 No.15006079
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>>15005545
I've been looking into it, but on a lot of websites it seems to either cost an arm and a leg, or it doesn't ship to Finland.
Sometimes its straight up bizarre what countries they decide not to post in
>posts to: Europe
>excludes: Europe

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 16:43:43 2022 No.15006083 >>15006079 modern stamps are just a scheme to milk money from autists niger saw all the musk fanboys and decided to release a stamp and sell it for good bucks

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 16:44:03 2022 No.15006085 >>15006062 Saw a couple days ago the Copenhagen Suborbital guy shitting on ESA at some space event for being a waste.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 16:44:39 2022 No.15006088 >>15006077 It always launching from a shithole where no one lives doesn't help it either.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 16:53:47 2022 No.15006099 File: 2.76 MB, 1280x720, Earthset as Orion Prepares for Outbound Powered Flyby [vfRTlFCLzH4][vp9+none]-timelapse.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 16:54:51 2022 No.15006100 >>15004217 these pictures look worse than 50 year old Apollo films. But I guess that's due to limited bandwidth. The Apollo films were not available until they returned to earth. During the mission they only had low resolution video.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 16:55:52 2022 No.15006102 where's the gateway put that shit in lunar orbit already

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 17:08:14 2022 No.15006126 >>15006079 >autistic about stamps >ignorant of reshipping services okay

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 17:12:56 2022 No.15006130 >>15006083 >milk money I guess getting $8 from all 20 autists who buy them will increase their GDP a million fold?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 17:14:10 2022 No.15006134 >>15006099 someone add the KSP time warp bar to the top left

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 17:30:48 2022 No.15006161 >>15006130 we're talking about niger here

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 17:40:14 2022 No.15006185 What would a revived SDI with Starship look like from the 2020s to 2030s?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 17:53:49 2022 No.15006196 >>15006185 what is SDI

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 17:56:25 2022 No.15006200 >>15006196 Strategic Defense Initiative - aka the 1980s plan to defeat mutually assured destruction by building countermeasures to ICBMs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 17:56:47 2022 No.15006203 >>15006196 Strategic Defense Initiative.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 17:58:42 2022 No.15006207 >>15006185 How would that help against hypersonic missiles? Starship can put detection satellites in orbit but that's it. It would be much faster to intercept missiles from the ground, than orbit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 18:01:50 2022 No.15006213 File: 2.83 MB, 1280x720, Orion Wobble.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I recorded about an hour of the Orion stream earlier and it was doing a weird wobble.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 18:02:46 2022 No.15006217 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtqZLh8tuM4

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 18:05:21 2022 No.15006227 >>15005999 But why IBM. Is this another result of the contractor swamp?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 18:06:27 2022 No.15006228 >>15006217 https://www.imerys.com/product-ranges/fondag

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 18:11:45 2022 No.15006235 File: 526 KB, 2000x3000, KSC-20221121-PH-SPX01_0003~orig.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 18:12:03 2022 No.15006237 >>15006200 >>15006203 Oh duh. It’s been a long work day my brain is fried

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 18:12:16 2022 No.15006238 File: 330 KB, 3000x2000, KSC-20221121-PH-SPX01_0002~orig.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 18:15:28 2022 No.15006246 File: 256 KB, 1125x858, BEEFD311-FDC6-4858-90FB-F88DC9993437.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is there any scenario in which America returns to the moon in the 90’s? Space art from the era is so kino.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 18:16:22 2022 No.15006247 >>15006246 Zubrin becomes a head of NASA

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 18:20:02 2022 No.15006253 File: 1.86 MB, 1918x1076, Screenshot_20211228-204957.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15006247 it can still happen

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 18:20:41 2022 No.15006256 >>15006185 A sure way to get China to actually get serious with hypersonic missile, and unlike the USSR, they won’t get bankrupt from it

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 18:23:57 2022 No.15006264 >>15006213 >24/7 livestream from your nations spaceship orbiting about the moon this is the future

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 18:24:34 2022 No.15006265 >>15005928 >wanting to stay with a "career" woman By the time she will allow children she will be barren

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 18:25:11 2022 No.15006268 >>15006256 Hypersonics don't matter because you can just shoot them down during boost phase.

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 18:26:47 2022 No.15006271

>>15006265
She wants to have kids ASAP actually. Iraqi immigrant, it’s a totally different culture. That’s why I’m so torn because I don’t think I’ll find another girl like this, especially in todays world. She’s in my bathroom right now we’re getting ready to go to a middle eastern restaurant. I love her so much.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 18:27:05 2022 No.15006272 >>15006102 PEEPEE NOT REDYYY

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 18:28:32 2022 No.15006274 >>15005982 chinensienisen weather machine

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 18:28:54 2022 No.15006279 >>15006271 Knock her up, right now

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 18:29:25 2022 No.15006282 File: 2.90 MB, 1280x720, Orion Wobble 2.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15006213

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 18:29:45 2022 No.15006283 >>15006020 I have a feeling we're not going to get a launch for at least another year or two. When they finally give in and build a proper flame trench

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 18:31:38 2022 No.15006289 File: 479 KB, 1920x1080, FiAxetFWYAgoznj.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15005820 for me, its ispace

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 18:37:46 2022 No.15006299 >>15006271 Switch out her birth control with fake shit and get her pregnant. At least that way you'll know it's yours and she might find a closer place near by. Or she's choosing another state as a way to soft break up

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 18:38:26 2022 No.15006300 File: 765 KB, 800x1114, Screenshot 2022-11-22 at 12-38-15 Lockheed Martin Space on Twitter.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 18:42:45 2022 No.15006315

>>15005928
I don't really see what's incompatible with it as long as you've already done or are near the end of your studies.
I personally know an astronaut and her daughter, he had her and an older brother in the middle of training for STS-112. Both grew up normally with no particular problem father's absence.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 18:44:33 2022 No.15006318 >>15005391 https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2021/02/24/sls-is-cancellation-too-good/

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 18:44:36 2022 No.15006319 >>15006246 No because there’s not a scenario where we go in the 2020s, and apparently we are actually trying to right now

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 18:46:33 2022 No.15006321 >>15006265 Truth

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 18:47:03 2022 No.15006323 >>15006246 You have to avoid STS for that, and stick to apollo derived architecture.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 18:50:12 2022 No.15006333 >>15006247 Dr. Z would either have a heart attack from consistently being told no, or he would autistically fixate on commercial stations or something and try to optimize it as much as possible and never get anything else done

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 19:05:48 2022 No.15006370 File: 244 KB, 516x603, 1658755537793.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15006318 >casey

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 19:09:01 2022 No.15006381 Instead of boiling water, can we use fission in an internal combustion engine?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 19:12:38 2022 No.15006389 File: 844 KB, 1280x720, waterfox_ygPsVNSPVG.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 19:15:41 2022 No.15006395 File: 155 KB, 1200x630, jupiter cosmos-episode-2-jovian-life-full.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15006381 what would be 'combusting' in such a case anon?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 19:19:52 2022 No.15006402 File: 980 KB, 1196x676, firefox_2022-11-22_14-19-36.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 19:23:34 2022 No.15006406
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>>15005954
I was gonna say no, but the diameter of the moon is 3476 meters, and the lander is 50 meters, so on this image it would be 50 pixels long if it was at the equator. Although they'll be at the pole, and it's white so it might blend in a bit. Or maybe it would just make it more visible? So maybe? Maybe it'll be visible even standing up at the north pole, when you zoom in

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 19:23:43 2022 No.15006408 go.nasa.gov/artemislive

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 19:26:51 2022 No.15006415 >>15006217 Fuck this guy's voice

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 19:29:09 2022 No.15006421 File: 52 KB, 758x762, Space Station Silhouette on the Moon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15006406 >diameter of the moon is 3476 meters m8...

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 19:29:17 2022 No.15006423
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>>15006406
This is gonna be looked at as a fun challenge to all the space photogs who get bored of taking pics of ISS and Tiangong from space lol, looking forward to that

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 19:32:01 2022 No.15006428 >>15005928 why the fuck are you going to different states? you can study medicine in any state

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 19:33:39 2022 No.15006432 File: 137 KB, 1749x858, firefox_2022-11-22_14-33-27.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 19:34:07 2022 No.15006434 >>15006406 sfg math

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 19:44:14 2022 No.15006457 File: 55 KB, 900x562, 16. Laughing dog.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15006421 >>15006434 Lmao yeah I don't know what happened there, it's actually 3476 kilometers. I suppose I just woke up, I'll use that as an excuse

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 19:50:00 2022 No.15006471 >>15006457 Now he is woke too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 19:51:56 2022 No.15006475 Where the FUCk is the abort system on SUSIE?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 19:52:05 2022 No.15006476 >>15006315 >STS-112 much has changed in the last 20 years. If a father leaves his son for more than a week he might transition

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 19:53:21 2022 No.15006481 >>15006475 not necessary

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 19:56:37 2022 No.15006489 File: 522 KB, 983x487, WHEREISIT.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15006481 They clearly say there is one

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 19:59:08 2022 No.15006493 Will they build a starhopper in florida? why or why not

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:04:34 2022 No.15006501 >>15006389 >>15006402 Is that a gamecube?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:21:39 2022 No.15006534 >>15006489 why would they lie?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:22:23 2022 No.15006537 File: 4 KB, 225x225, 1649537599084.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >F9/CRS-26: At L-minus 40 minutes, SpaceX is go for propellant loading while the team continues to evaluate the weather

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:29:00 2022 No.15006546 https://endpnt.com/hls/nasa-media/playlist.m3u8 CRS-26

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:35:14 2022 No.15006555 >>15006493 Why would they?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:39:26 2022 No.15006565 >>15004638 Glushko really was a shit. They should have just gone all in with Korolev and ignored Chelomei (leaving Yangel with the military).

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:40:24 2022 No.15006567 live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltY790_MdtM

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:41:31 2022 No.15006571 >>15006565 Glushko was one hardworking bastard up until his hospitalisation then death, even in his late 70s. Sadly korolev didn't have that chance.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:43:21 2022 No.15006575 >>15006571 His work ethic and engine work was brilliant, probably one of the best engine designers (likely THE best for his time) but his greatest flaw was his pettiness.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:44:23 2022 No.15006579 scrub

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:45:35 2022 No.15006580 monke

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:45:57 2022 No.15006582 >>15006579 source?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:47:12 2022 No.15006583 >>15006582 Voices in my head.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:48:46 2022 No.15006586 File: 263 KB, 1147x576, 1641579271151.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Falcon 9 Cargo Dragon CRS-26 Mission https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VB-cfELV7lc

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:50:12 2022 No.15006587 File: 119 KB, 256x256, 1641146065127.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15006586 cringe

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:50:26 2022 No.15006588 File: 257 KB, 1200x1600, herb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] please launch me into space to grow weed, elon

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:50:41 2022 No.15006590 No-Go

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:51:41 2022 No.15006592 SCRUBX

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:52:04 2022 No.15006595 >>15006579 This is your fault

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:52:06 2022 No.15006596 >>15006588 What ended up happening to Kimbal Musk's company?? https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/12/kimbal-musk-and-square-roots-hope-to-feed-the-world-and-someday-mars.html

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:52:41 2022 No.15006598 >NASA launches to the Moon >SpaceX scrubs on LEO mission

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:54:08 2022 No.15006601 File: 1.41 MB, 720x2312, 1660245737433.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Eutelsat 10B launch attempt from SLC-40 in 6 hours

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:54:42 2022 No.15006603 wtf? The official spacex stream is way behind NSF's?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:54:47 2022 No.15006604 This never would have happened if we'd just remove the atmosphere

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:54:57 2022 No.15006605 Scrubx as reliable as usual Cringe You know who did launch this week? Hint: it wasn't spacex

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:55:18 2022 No.15006606 >>15006598 SpaceX has been doing like 2 weekly launches though. It took NASA 3 months to launch theirs, and that's after half a decade of delays.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:55:50 2022 No.15006607 >>15006603 >official spacex stream I was watching the countdown while they already knew it was a scrub in the NSF stream lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:56:36 2022 No.15006611 I can't imagine the levels of virginity you need to reach to fight over fucking space companies. They are all nothing but a black hole for taxpayer money.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:56:38 2022 No.15006613 File: 139 KB, 1280x720, mpv-shot0007.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:57:07 2022 No.15006614 >>15006611 I hugged a girl once.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:57:51 2022 No.15006616 >>15006583 huh, the voices were right. What else do they tell you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:58:01 2022 No.15006618 Musk keeps stealing money with his rocket scam. They should have chosen to launch their satellite with a competent company, like Boeing who got us back to the moon a few days ago.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:59:02 2022 No.15006619 >>15006618 Americans, you are too low IQ to shitpost properly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 20:59:07 2022 No.15006620 >this type of bait is guaranteed replies It is that easy in SpaceFlight.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 21:00:48 2022 No.15006621 >>15006620 It didn't used to be that easy until /sfg/ became Reddit central

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 21:00:55 2022 No.15006622 File: 24 KB, 308x450, 1614406478498.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >15006619 Yuropoors, you are too low IQ to resist bait.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 21:01:21 2022 No.15006625 >15006618 >like Boeing who got us back to the moon a few days ago. I hate how you are actually right, the absolute state of 2022 SpaceX. Just launch the fucking rocket already.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 21:02:17 2022 No.15006626 >>15006619 ackshually I'm a thirdie

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 21:02:27 2022 No.15006627 >>15006622 What, I literally called you out on your inability to bait, Jorge Tyrone Wong. You are too used to Twitter.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 21:03:42 2022 No.15006630 >>15006619 >>15006614 >>15006622 >>15006625 >>15006626 See >>15006620 and please kill yourselves.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 21:03:49 2022 No.15006631 >>15006614 Was it nice?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 21:04:18 2022 No.15006634 He's replying to himself again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 21:04:38 2022 No.15006635 >>15006630 I will continue replying and there is nothing you can do about it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 21:05:11 2022 No.15006636 >>15006621 There are faggots in this thread that didn't know how the moon works. /sfg/ is worse than reddit at this point

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 21:05:31 2022 No.15006637

>>15006618
>got us back to the moon a few days ago.
Lmao, the crewed mission is never happening.
Not only they rely on SpaceX for the lander since they literally have nothing to land with, but congress will cut NASA's budget again and make SLS launches unaffordable.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 21:05:46 2022 No.15006638 >>15006636 You can leave if you don't like it here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 21:07:23 2022 No.15006645 File: 1.78 MB, 1194x1580, station-one.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15006637 If there is a crewed mission you won't see any real footage.

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 21:09:12 2022 No.15006649

>>15006575
then that's why they should have put him on top, let him toy with FFSC, 2,000 isp NTRs, lunar bases, 10,000 tons tanks of UDMH or Pentaborane for a quarter of a century, that would have at least allowed the soviets to have a permanent base on the moon by the time it collapses

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 21:14:21 2022 No.15006658 File: 102 KB, 256x256, 1669150212487473.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15006586 cute

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 21:14:50 2022 No.15006659 File: 24 KB, 220x183, Trollface.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15006619 >>15006625 >>15006637 >It's that easy in /sfg/try

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 21:15:46 2022 No.15006662 File: 3.34 MB, 1516x1492, 1660581937773.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15006659 >post bait >people tell you your bait sucks >h-haha, i baited you

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 21:16:59 2022 No.15006663 >>15006638 Why don't you go back instead

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 21:18:00 2022 No.15006667 >>15006586 Is Clear-chan a NEET?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 21:20:17 2022 No.15006674 File: 3 KB, 698x1284, 1529765095009.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >15006627 >implying you were replying to the same person >"I was only pretending to be retarded"

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 21:24:15 2022 No.15006679 Thread safety officer recommends abort

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 21:26:34 2022 No.15006684 File: 230 KB, 1884x2000, 1664852023785409.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 21:28:21 2022 No.15006687 File: 1.82 MB, 2707x2182, 1644474700087.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 21:29:22 2022 No.15006689 File: 1.22 MB, 3335x5000, 1643987214446.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Tue Nov 22 21:29:52 2022 No.15006691
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https://www.vox.com/recode/2022/11/22/23473483/white-house-joe-biden-moon-artemis-permanent-outpost-spacex
>The SpaceX Starship is designed to deliver cargo on the surface of the moon. | SpaceX

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 21:31:13 2022 No.15006694 File: 335 KB, 2000x2778, 1623257825961.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 21:31:26 2022 No.15006695 File: 787 KB, 1003x633, sfg_dont_go_there_02.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Rare /sfg/ meme time?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 22 21:33:24 2022 No.15006699 >>15006662 >bait only fishes for (You)'s >gets exactly what xhe wants pottery

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