/sfg/

[Anonymous No.14825486]

42.5 meters edition

[Anonymous No.14825489]

First for souf korean space rockets

[Anonymous No.14825494]

Pay close attention. The rest is just a tube.

[Anonymous No.14825518]

No, the injectors fail after ignition...

[Nitrogen Aluminum Ethanol No.14825533]

There is only one mixture, and the outlet widths. It makes more sense to bore holes into a solid block, but aside from that, the equation is 3 variables from 2 inputs, the divided pressure, the expansion, and the temperature. It is not complex to wave the function to find the optimal with a computer. You may even make guesses from intuition about the natural elements, and test it on your computer. It is not rocket science.

[sage No.14825706]

>>14825486
you idiot don't make new threads until the last one is on page 10

[Anonymous No.14825896]

>>14825706
this. fucking fag op, I have a script for opening sfg and it lands me on the top one. Relies on the assumption that there is only one thread going until it's about to die.

[Anonymous No.14825898]

>>14825486
Faggots
Idiot
Bitch
You're desperate to be op but it's not happening
Kill yourself
Clean this up janny tranny

[Anonymous No.14826015]

>China has successfully conducted a whole-craft running test for its 25 ton-level closed expander cycle hydrogen-oxygen rocket engine for the first time recently

>A space expert, who asked not to be named, told the Global Times on Tuesday that the exciting 25-ton engine being tested could be the YF-79 engines

>So far, China has announced a successful running test for its domestically developed 500-ton level liquid-oxygen kerosene rocket engine, which is speculated to be codenamed the YF-130 rocket engine with a 50 percent rated working condition in March 2021; and the completion of the development of a prototype for the 220-ton YF-90 oxygen-hydrogen rocket engine in July 2021, according to media reports.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202209/1274765.shtml

[Anonymous No.14826039]

duplicate thread

[Anonymous No.14826067]

Space Fag General as usual

[Anonymous No.14826084]

heard there is supposed to be a static fire today?

[Anonymous No.14826301]

>last thread had only 400 poasts
when's the next happening, there's nothing on the horizon. SpaceX is doing 3 seconds of static fire every week

[Anonymous No.14826304]

>>14825518
why doesn;t hydroememe leak out through the flexible hose on SLS

[Anonymous No.14826306]

>>14825486
enjoy your ban faggot. Janitors cleanse it.

[Anonymous No.14826392]

>>14825486
>Rocket Lab USA, Inc. (Nasdaq: RKLB) (“Rocket Lab” or “the Company”), a global leader in launch services and space systems, today announced that it has signed a Cooperative Research and Development Agreement (CRADA) with the United States Transportation Command (USTRANSCOM) to explore the possibility of using the Company’s Neutron and Electron launch vehicles to transport cargo around the world. The agreement will also see Rocket Lab explore using Photon spacecraft to establish on-orbit cargo depots and deliver re-entry capability.

Each amerimutt can now receive one (1) AR-15 with a full magazine by orbital drop pod, anywhere in the world.

[Anonymous No.14826431]

>>14826392
Seems like the drop pod itself would have more firepower

[Anonymous No.14827157]

>>14825486
We got him now SLS sisters
After California banning tesla self driving and now this. He is canceled for sure

[Anonymous No.14827196]

>>14826304
(it does)

[Anonymous No.14827201]

>>14826301
Ariane 5 launch in less than 24 hours

[Anonymous No.14827203]

>>14827157
what's the problem with this?

[Anonymous No.14827211]

>>14827157
No. It just means tesla has to tell buyers what the limits are and cannot sell it as level 5 autonomy. Until it actually is

[Anonymous No.14827215]

interesting to note that the real /sfg/ has accumulated more than 100 posts since this fraudulent imposer /sfg/ was launched.
>>14823528

[Anonymous No.14827223]

>>14827203
Word association for the goy cattle brain.
>ELON-BAD
>PUTIN-BAD
>ELON SUCKS PUTIN COCK BAD

nevermind elon did his globo homo reps and dumped a bunch of satellite dishes in Ukraine.

I also find it funny the media got top down orders to hype up and roll out the carpet for SLS launch, they were talking big on the morning news at my workplace both days and then double scrub they now finally use all the worthless moh money foh dem programs rhetoric against it that they have dogged private space with for years.

[Anonymous No.14827229]

>>14827216
>what projects in the last 15 years would you not have funded in exchange for funding solar sail and laser based propulsion, and ______________?
Constellation and SLS. Is this even a serious question? Start CRS in 2004 instead of Constellation, CCrew after CRS succeeds, and then do CCrew 2: Reusable Upper Stage With A Robot Arm Boogaloo as the threshold for full Shuttle retirement. Then once the Shuttle is retired for something commercial and cheaper with true equivalent capabilities and we're not digging through the couch for spare change for LITERALLY EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE BUDGET we can do solar sails, nuclear propulsion research, space telescope spam, etc. without worrying about some fucking contractor in the middle of a corn field and his Senator having a say over future manned rocket design.

[Anonymous No.14827230]

You are in charge of NASA, you are given $50 billion, how do you have NASA spend it

[Anonymous No.14827234]

>>14825494
Why would you use an orbital drop pod for a backup weapon?

[Anonymous No.14827237]

>>14826392
Why would you use an orbital drop pod for a backup weapon?

[Anonymous No.14827238]

>>14827157
>>14827203
>>14827223
>Elon Musk wanted to "slow down" his $44 billion acquisition of Twitter months after Russia invaded Ukraine [...] "Let's slow down just a few days," Twitter's lawyer said, reading out Musk's texts during the hearing. "Putin's speech tomorrow is really important. It won't make sense to buy Twitter if we're heading into World War 3."
that's literally it, he did not even express any positive or negative opinion about him, elon man bad i guess?

[Anonymous No.14827239]

>>14826015
Implications?

[Anonymous No.14827243]

>>14827229
I mean there is no slaughtering the sacred pork barrel and things are dysfunctional but in a functional government, the second Falcon Heavy demonstrated commercial payloads SLS would have been put on a fixed cost budget to fly or die and then been promptly phased out instead of sunk cost fallacy. But it's a pointless hypothetical like most hypotheticals.

[Anonymous No.14827251]

>>14827230
the should spend it all to hire a bunch of blacks and women, especially foreign blacks and women, who can't do anything on their own successfully and then fire all of white males

[Anonymous No.14827258]

>>14827230
i'd hand the $50 billion to musk

[Anonymous No.14827262]

>>14827230
Bribing the FAA to grant SpaceX more launch permissions

[Anonymous No.14827263]

>>14827258
What goals would you want it see him accomplish with it? What are the coolest space achievements you can accomplish for $50bil

[Anonymous No.14827265]

>>14827238
He's just using any possible excuse to try and worm out of an acquisition he pushed for in the first place.
Twitter wasn't for sale and he pushed hard to get them to sell, once they were happy with the deal and willing to sell he said "nah forget it".
Musk is bad but not because he quoted Putin or names the jew, it's because he acts like a jew.

[Anonymous No.14827267]

>>14827251
Ah, the Zimbabwean agricultural policy of manned spaceflight

[Anonymous No.14827268]

>>14827263
Orbital bombardment of London, Washington, and Tel Aviv

[Anonymous No.14827270]

>>14827230
Do I have congress telling me who I have to give it to or is this some kind of ideal free NASA?
If it's the real NASA with the real politics I give it all to ULA because if I did anything else I would never get another cent.

[Anonymous No.14827271]

>>14827265
>Twitter wasn't for sale and he pushed hard to get them to sell, once they were happy with the deal and willing to sell he said "nah forget it".
Based.

[Anonymous No.14827274]

>>14827265
>Company breaks both financial reporting and federal law and is lying about its value
>Just want to get information and make an accurate bid on the company or at least negotiate a fair price
>Musk is in the wrong for this

Lol no, it's just twitter flexing its special status as a government and silicon valley favorite when any other company pulling that shit would have got totally reamed.

[Anonymous No.14827284]

>>14827274
>Company breaks both financial reporting and federal law and is lying about its value
Source other than Musk?

[Anonymous No.14827289]

>>14827284
Everyone who uses twitter.

[Anonymous No.14827290]

>>14827289
Kek, I'm sure that'll hold up in court.

[Anonymous No.14827296]

>>14827263
idk, maybe funding the entire starship program, and starting a moon and mars base with the remaining $45 billion

[Anonymous No.14827299]

>>14827223
>Word association for the goy cattle brain.
>>ELON-BAD
Pretty much I didn't even read it, I just wanted to shitpost to /sfg/ first

[Anonymous No.14827301]

>>14827299
Basado

[Anonymous No.14827309]

when will Gautam Adani start a big space company

[Anonymous No.14827321]

Anyone know what the fuck this thing is? Bill gates backed startup working on a reusable rocket

https://twitter.com/marcushouse/status/1567329597884370944?s=21&t=G3-eSWp2O9HTJ96G5hHPew

[Anonymous No.14827323]

>>14827321
oh boy, yet ANOTHER launcher!
we need more payloads, not more launchers

[Anonymous No.14827326]

>>14827323
We need at least two fully reusable heavy lift launchers. Right now we have zero; Starship isn't ready.

[Anonymous No.14827333]

>>14826554
>This optically coupled particle and laser beam are governed by two fundamental coupling phenomena. The light guiding occurs due to the higher index of refraction inside the particle beam compared to the vacuum of space outside the beam. This same principle can be seen in step index fiber optic cables. The particle guiding requires the particles to be at very low (sub-Kelvin) temperatures to effectively couple the beams. Once the atoms are cold, the high intensity laser creates and potential “well” through a dipole force that the particles will stay trapped in unless they gain enough energy to escape the well.

This will be amazing if it works.

[Anonymous No.14827334]

How long until a starship is on the pad at LC 39?

[Anonymous No.14827338]

>>14827333
It's also going to need lots of military backing because it's functionally a death ray.

[Anonymous No.14827343]

>>14827284
It came out in the court filings that twitter was reporting a significant portion of its bot traffic as real users. Which is effectively lying about demand for your product, and thus lying to advertisers your primary clients about the value per ad buy on the site and also investors who use MAU as a metric of health to invest more or not. Now of course most of silicon valley cheats like this but none were ever taken to court for obvious reasons.

[Anonymous No.14827351]

>>14827333
that is so fucking elegant

[Anonymous No.14827355]

Who could utilize LC 39C?

That shit was empty for years, could a larger rocket be put on the pad?

[Anonymous No.14827361]

>>14827230
Starship development, coke, and Icelandic hookers

[Anonymous No.14827364]

>>14827321
A FULLY reusable rocket. That's part of the second stage engine. The first stage is going to be a pretty conventional looking Falcon 9 clone, but the second is more conical and seems like its going to use an aerospike that'll double as a heat shield for 2nd stage reentry. It's also a hydrolox engine, which tracks with their statements about it being the "highest performing upper stage" out of all the new small launchers. One the company's co-founders was in charge of BE-3/3U development at Blue Origin so it's not like they lack any experience with the awkward stuff.

[Anonymous No.14827365]

>>14827343
>Now of course most of silicon valley cheats like this but none were ever taken to court for obvious reasons.
If anybody remembers a while back when Elon advertised on twitter that he was putting together a top-tier legal team to actively and aggressively pursue specific issues and which would report directly to him—this is why.
He's been planning the twitter bout for a while, and I don't think he'll be done stirring the pot after that. Everything that's happened with the twitter deal (on his end at least) has been part of a very deliberate strategy.

[Anonymous No.14827371]

>>14827321
Bill Gates funded aerospike second stages.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20210381469A1/en?oq=20210381469

[Anonymous No.14827373]

>>14827333
I've said it before and I'll say it again: we need to disassemble Mercury and use it to build a PROCSIMA array and preemptively glass every terrestrial exoplanet within 500 light years

[Anonymous No.14827375]

>>14827364
>hydrolox
oof
honestly, i wish them luck, we need all hands on deck, but good lord that is a cunt of an element to deal with

[Anonymous No.14827381]

>>14827375
>oh no, how are we ever going to be able to handle the same fuels which were used successfully on a daily basis without much issue in the 1940s, during a desperate war situation with limited access to raw materials, regular bombing raids and no digital computing equipment

[Anonymous No.14827383]

>>14827381
liquid hydrogen not hydrazine

[Anonymous No.14827387]

>>14827381
the germans used hydrogen fueled rockets during ww2?

[Anonymous No.14827389]

>>14827373
First we need to send out a bunch of colonies to stars with only gas giants.

Chucking roggs a relativistic velocities us going to get us noticed.

[Anonymous No.14827393]

>>14827381
[Leaks and valve troubles intensify]

[Anonymous No.14827402]

>>14827375
They seem to know what they're doing, or at least understand what they're up against. They claim that they've got the design of 2nd stage engine and TPS where they want it to be but they're also being Blue Origin levels of secretive about anything resembling technical details. I don't think they've even made any definitive statements about what their payload capacity is going to be, just that "it'll be sized to fit the market."

[Anonymous No.14827404]

>>14827364
>Their reusable second-stage design eliminates the brittle ceramic tiles that have required detailed inspections and lengthy refurbishments on other space vehicles
is that shade being thrown?

[Anonymous No.14827407]

>>14825486
>Forgot "Spaceflight General" in the subject
Scrub this thread, roll it back to the VAB.

[Anonymous No.14827411]

>>14827404
Maybe a little, but it'd doesn't cost anything to point at the Shuttle's flaws.

[Anonymous No.14827426]

>>14827270
Ideal you are head of NASA and given $100bil now (congrats, it seems 50bil may be small penuts in spaceflight)
You get to pick the teams and team coordinators and helpers to plan missions, how do you want that money spent

[Anonymous No.14827431]

>>14827296
>idk, maybe funding the entire starship program, and starting a moon and mars base with the remaining $45 billion
If the entire starship program can be funded for $5 bil, and Elon Musk is worth like $600 bil, and some part of him was gonna buy twitter for $44 bil, why wouldn't he just put 5 or 10 into starship program?

[Anonymous No.14827433]

>>14827323
What kind of payloads? A company can't really afford to take the risk that they will profit later if they start now to make devices and materials for moon base and mars colonies, or commericial space stations

[Anonymous No.14827438]

>>14827333
What about this is so powerful or energetic? The laser is gaining energy from? And how does it propel the probe so fast, how is the probe recieving the energy, can the laser be attatched to the back of the probe? How does it retain accuracy as it gets further?.

[Anonymous No.14827440]

>>14827438
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0f-7CmZ_0U

[Anonymous No.14827446]

>>14827402
It's 1650kg to LEO.
>>14827326
So not really a HLV.

[Anonymous No.14827449]

>>14825518
Those are some beefy flanges

[Anonymous No.14827450]

>>14827433
ideally infrastructure payloads... things that help reduce the cost and difficulty of space like propellant depots and servicing satellites. i'd put up a demo sat that can be easily upgraded to show companies the potential and build a business off of that.

[Anonymous No.14827451]

>>14827446
so on the heavier side of a smallsat launcher, that's good

[Anonymous No.14827453]

>>14827364
>Reusable
>Hydrolox
Didn't they have to replace basically the entire hydrogen-exposed half of the SSME every time it was "reused"?

[Anonymous No.14827458]

>>14827453
clearly they think they can deal with it. materials science has advanced a lot over the last 20 years so who knows

[Anonymous No.14827463]

>>14827458
Yes, twenty years of advancement but we still need to be using a 40 year old legacy design that uses none of these advancements. NASA is feckless and congress is willfully ignorant of their own incompetence.

[Anonymous No.14827467]

>>14827453
No

[Anonymous No.14827471]

>>14827463
we were talking about stoke not sls
yeah you're right the SSME it uses are neat and all but they're pretty old tech at this point and this leak issue might reflect that. it's possible a lot of our antipathy towards hydrolox is rooted in legacy hardware that can't deal with it-maybe a fresh new design can tame it and get decent overall performance.
i'm willing to give stoke a chance to impress me-so far they've actually managed to make good time on turning a vision into working hardware,which is refreshing compared to BO, who I am astonishe to note seem to have made no progress on new glewnn in the last year. like what happened to that new upper stage, or doing a fucking hop test?

[Anonymous No.14827474]

>>14827458
I'm not sure if you'd call New Shepard "rapidly" reusable but it's not the worst thing to have as a proof of concept.

>>14827446
That'd put it in line with Vega and JAXA's Epsilon. That's not a bad place to be if they can manage a quick turnaround with both of their stages.

[Anonymous No.14827477]

>>14827474
you’ll never escape the storage and impulse-density problem of hydrogen, and a dinky little BE-3 on a suborbital rocket that flies 4 times a year is a horrible comparison for anything scaled up to Falcon or Starship levels of power

[Anonymous No.14827479]

>>14827471
the leak is unrelated to the RS-25 outside of the use of liquid hydrogen

[Anonymous No.14827481]

https://spacenews.com/nasa-to-repair-sls-liquid-hydrogen-leak-on-the-pad/

>NASA will attempt to fix on the pad a liquid hydrogen seal that caused a Space Launch System scrub, keeping open the option to proceed with a new launch attempt later this month.

>In a statement late Sept. 6, NASA said that technicians will proceed with plans to replace the seal for the interface called the quick disconnect between a liquid hydrogen feed line and the core stage of the SLS. That work will be done on the pad rather than rolling the vehicle back to the Vehicle Assembly Building (VAB) at the Kennedy Space Center.

WE
ARE
CALLING A PLUMBER

[Anonymous No.14827482]

>>14827479
oh right sorry i got the valve issue and the leak mixed up

[Anonymous No.14827485]

>>14827251
That makes it even easier for spacex to get good engineers. I love watching NASA crash and burn. I doubt SpaceX will be required to fly only nasa astroonutes.
Jared Isaacman ends up being the first person to set foot on Mars. Angering all of NASA that it wasn't a black woman, that they fly their own mission 40 years later

[Anonymous No.14827486]

>>14827481
inb4 they just ignore the FTS timing out

[Anonymous No.14827488]

>>14827485
the first Mars mission has decent odds of being a suicide mission

[Anonymous No.14827489]

>>14827481
actually some good news, but don’t think for a second that something else can and will go wrong if they attempt another flight (pronounced ‘wet dress rehearsal’)

[Anonymous No.14827491]

>>14827481
>so I talked to the guy at home depot

[Anonymous No.14827492]

>>14827463
Don't you think what most of NASA and the companies they commissioned topsecret stuff, they really spent 20 million on SLS said they spent 20 billion so at least as bummed as the public is the money is a counted for, but it's really going towards making the super epic super futuristic tech.

[Anonymous No.14827493]

>>14827488
what are you talking about, we're going to have set down quite a few rockets full of supplies and machinery on mars before humans get shipped over-if one of those burns up shit is getting delayed big time. i'd say the first people to mars have maybe a 5-10% chance of dying from some kindof accident or something tops.

[Anonymous No.14827495]

>>14827493
yeah, that's "decent odds of suicide mission"

[Anonymous No.14827496]

>>14827488
At this point it feels like using a starship as a lunar lander for artemis is a bit of a suicide run lol. SpaxeC definitely had the most experience over dynetics a leidos company and BO by a long shot; but the rocket is nowhere near ready yet and they only have 2 years left

[Anonymous No.14827499]

>>14827477
>you’ll never escape the storage and impulse-density problem of hydrogen
You see the problem with statements like yours is that it is impossible to prove correct and entirely possible (if unlikely) to prove false.

Metallic hydrogen may yet prove to be the optimum propellent for chemical rocketry. This is an area of ongoing active scientific research.

[Anonymous No.14827501]

>>14827496
at this point it's really obvious that we're a ways off being back on the moon. 2028 or maybe 2030 feel more plausible.

[Anonymous No.14827502]

>>14827499
impulse-density is literally a measurement you dumb fuck

[Anonymous No.14827505]

>>14827488
>the first Mars mission has decent odds of being a suicide mission
The crew should all be in their 60s and 70s, and have robot helpers, and exoskeleton power suits

[Anonymous No.14827507]

>>14827499
>I disagree with your quantitative data so here is a popsoi reddit alternative

[Anonymous No.14827509]

>>14827496
nah that'll be fine, it's the "yeah just set up a multigigawatt solar plant and kiloton fuel production facility or you aren't coming home" part that's spooky
it'll work, but only steely eyed missile men and brass balled test pilots are going to be making that journey

[Anonymous No.14827512]

>>14827505
we need to contain the boomer menace, not allow them to spread

[Anonymous No.14827513]

>>14827509
if they can figure out how to lay out tons of solar panels/reactors before hand and actually generate a ton of fuel and oxidizer to prove it will work then the hardest hurdle will have been conquered. They aren’t sending a single soul over there until 99% of the infrastructure has already been landed and set up, and they are comfortable with ISRU

[Anonymous No.14827515]

>>14827477
But we're not scaling up to anything like Starship. We're not even getting close to Falcon 9. This rocket is a pipsqueak that's lifting a ton and a half to LEO. You'd need a first stage with a bit more power than New Shepard's chubby sounding rocket body but there's no reason why you can't design a functional hydrolox first stage if that's where your technical experience is.

There's also nothing suggesting that they're going to use a hydrogen-fueled first stage. They haven't even started designing the that stage yet, so they might not have even know what they want to use yet.

[Anonymous No.14827519]

>>14827515
Okay then at that point go with hypergolic. Some mixtures outcompete even methalox and it’s not like you need to ISRU so why the fuck would you commit to hydrogen or methane

[Anonymous No.14827520]

>>14827492
No, I worked for an aerospace contractor that did work for most of the big names NASA, Bowing, SpaceX, Aerojet, Sierra Nevada etc.

My fingerprints were on parts that took people to space. (well we did a good job of cleaning them but the prints were there at one point).

I think NASA is just phenomenally good at wasting money. And while I wouldn't at all be suppressed to see a decent fraction evaporate off in the eather, that money is not being siphoned off to fund black opps research in the south pole pyramid.

The F37 was a big enough cash cow for all the black ops folks to vampire away all the money they could dream of. NASA's budget is pitiful compared to those folk.

[Anonymous No.14827521]

>>14827519
by that logic neutron should be hypergolic

[Anonymous No.14827522]

>>14827505
>exoskeleton power suits
Are these going to be popular on Mars? The workforce setting up the solar field by metal hand

[Anonymous No.14827524]

my favorite hydrolox first stages in KSP are covered in giant spherical tanks that shear off due to aerodynamic forces by the time the giant monstrosity hits max q

[Anonymous No.14827531]

>>14827321
I read this tweet with the voice of the TV propaganda guy in Starship Troopers.

[Anonymous No.14827532]

>>14827507
Um no actually your wrong because the entropy of decomposition of metallic hydrogen and your just wrong OK. I'm done, stop talking to me. I know I'm wright and I don't want you to try to confuse me. I said stop. Your words are literally violence. Somebody help, this man is accosting me.

[Anonymous No.14827534]

>>14827513
yeah automating it is impossible imo

[Anonymous No.14827535]

>>14827522
You can choose between
>massively complex exoskeletons that have to be individually fitted
or
>a forklift

[Anonymous No.14827536]

>>14827519
The point of using hydrogen is that despite its downsides they have more experience using it than a more conventional mix like methalox or kerolox. They don't have that experience using hypergolic fuel and if they did they'd be smart enough not to use them on a vehicle they're intending to be rapidly reused.

>>14827520
>that money is not being siphoned off to fund black opps research in the south pole pyramid.
You take that back. South pole megalithic cryptoarchitecture programs provide honest American jobs in all sixty states.

[Anonymous No.14827537]

>>14827521
>by that logic neutron should be hypergolic
Can you give me a jar with 30 tons of pure neutrons, I bet I could do some spectacular things with them.

[Anonymous No.14827538]

>>14827230
send up 20 james webb variants and get the whole telescope thing over with

[Anonymous No.14827541]

>>14827535
can I have a pallet jack instead

[Anonymous No.14827545]

>>14827538
I postulate that even with the equivalent of earths entire GDP for three decades funding space telescopes people would be proposing yet more extravagant peepers that even such an extravagant devotion of resources could not construct.

[Anonymous No.14827550]

>>14827520
The guys reverse-engineering the UFOs get the F-35 money, the DARPA scrubs working on directed energy weapons and plasma cannons have to muddle along with NASA contract scraps

[Anonymous No.14827553]

>>14827536
>South pole megalithic cryptoarchitecture
Is that what goes in down there, that would be cool for this era to bulls an equivalent of great pyramids and angor watt and St Peters basilica and those giant Buddha statues, something for those around to be impesses by in 400; 500; 1000; 2000 years. And a cool place to vibe in in the mean time.

[Anonymous No.14827557]

>>14827499
>Metallic hydrogen
Yeah bro just pressurize the fuel tank to hundreds of GPa how hard can it be?

[Anonymous No.14827558]

>>14827557
It simple, you just use Mercury to build a Dison Sphere and use the energy you get from that

[Anonymous No.14827559]

>>14827553
>>14827536
you guys are going to get me back into my obsession with rock-cut architecture on mars with all this talk

[Anonymous No.14827560]

>>14827538
It already over, the only reason ever to make another telescope is if you gureentee you can see significantly deeper than jwst, or significantly visualize the nearest exoplanets.

It would be really cool if there is hidden data in the instrument readings that when represented visually if you put it through the right effects and filters you see weird stuff

[Anonymous No.14827561]

>>14827558
The universe is simply a battery cell that got charged up and is slowly being discharged. Your going to see a whole new "big bang" all over again on top of our existing universe when timmy plugs his race car back in the charger. It's going to be wild.

[Anonymous No.14827562]

>>14827535
You can't have a certified forklift operator astronaut, that's too much power for any one person to have

[Anonymous No.14827563]

>>14827481
So slapping on some flextape then

[Anonymous No.14827574]

>>14827562
that's okay, I don't mind not having astronaut training (I'll make do)

[5'10 245lbs Mountain of a Man No.14827579]

I win.

[Anonymous No.14827582]

>>14827545
Good.

[Anonymous No.14827603]

I've been out of the loop for months. When is Starship launching? Last I remember it was supposed to be July or something

[Anonymous No.14827606]

>>14827603
at this point hard to know, not totally out of the question it going up by the end of the year but spacex are pretty tightlipped

[Anonymous No.14827609]

>>14827606
It will go up alright. In some way or another.

[Anonymous No.14827614]

>>14827603
two weeks

[Anonymous No.14827619]

>>14827614
i love that movie so much, arnie was in some real classics in that decade, Predator is fucking sick too.

[Anonymous No.14827679]

>>14827499
Nah, slush hydrogen is where its at.

[Anonymous No.14827689]

>>14827321
>Bill gates backed
When has anything he touched outside of Microsoft worked out?

[Anonymous No.14827697]

>>14827689
He's a pretty deft hand at the political economy if you follow his uhhhhh "philanthropy"

[Anonymous No.14827704]

>>14827697
Oh right, he's behind the whole anti-Musk sjw propaganda campaign


https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/report-says-gates-poured-millions-into-attacking-musk-tesla-ceo-responds-122052500347_1.html

[Anonymous No.14827723]

>>14827689
TerraPower

[Anonymous No.14827732]

>>14827704
Billy G has been on the side of daemons and if you didn't notice this decades ago you are willfully ignorant.

[Anonymous No.14827740]

Never fails to make me laugh when the anti-SpaceX shills rear their Moskovite heads on literally anywhere on 4chan outside of this general.

[Anonymous No.14827780]

>>14827333
Wont the photons heat up the particles?

[Anonymous No.14827787]

>>14827780
NO, the photons will excite the electrons which will heat up the particles.

[Anonymous No.14827794]

>>14827787
Electrons are easily amused, I bet they have reddit accounts.

[Anonymous No.14827809]

SpaceX bros how can we get beaten like that?

[Anonymous No.14827812]

>>14827794
>two soijak electrons pointing at a proton

[Anonymous No.14827821]

What's old Pockocmoc up to these days? Haven't heard anything about them for a while.

[Anonymous No.14827826]

>>14827821

[Anonymous No.14827833]

>>14827826
I wonder if their budget has changed at all

That reads more like a wishlist than a plan

[Anonymous No.14827835]

>>14827826

[Anonymous No.14827836]

>>14827826
Interesting happening this week.

Rogozin's advisor was sentenced to 20+ years in prison. The trial may have been targeted towards Rogozin, which forced him out of Roscosmos. Rogozin refused to fire his advisor when his advisor was arrested.

>https://tweet.lambda.dance/kamilkazani/status/1567174136832606208

[Anonymous No.14827840]

>>14827836
he shrugged

[Anonymous No.14827845]

>>14827821
Hearty kek.

[Anonymous No.14827846]

>>14827230
Get plasma magnet sails working then build flyby probes to KBOs with them

[Anonymous No.14827865]

>>14827780
I think they're trying to use the laser cooling effect to keep the velocity variance (temperature) down. that seems hard in a traveling beam

[Anonymous No.14827870]

>>14827230
I put $45 billion into a big pile and burn it. Then I give $5 billion to SpaceX and have them do everything. Things still proceed much more efficiently than they will in reality.

[Anonymous No.14827879]

>>14827230
All R&D.

[Anonymous No.14827901]

>>14827603
July

[Anonymous No.14827905]

>>14827230
Announce prize money to give the first company to establish a 10 man habitat on Moon $1B.
Buy 50 Starship launches @ $100 million for $5 billion. With 10 launches guaranteed per year.

[Anonymous No.14827928]

>>14826015
>>14827239
>25 ton expander cycle LOX / LH2
implication is they stole the American RL10 or the Japanese MARC-60.

[Anonymous No.14827935]

>>14827238
>>14827157
>>14827203
Reddit only reads headlines
>ELON CITED PUTIN
Idiotic.

[Anonymous No.14827950]

>>14827230
I would have NASA build their own nuclear deterrent to get Washington to fuck off.

[Anonymous No.14827957]

>>14827321
>>14827531
>Would you like to know more?
I wonder if he realizes he's using that meme.

[Anonymous No.14827961]

>>14827333
>>14827338
MARAUDER powered space probes when??

[Anonymous No.14828037]

so we made a few mistakes, when this fraudulent thread was made we didn't post a link to the running thread here, and when the real thread reached page 10 we didn't properly stage by making a new thread.

[Anonymous No.14828043]

>>14828037
also jannies didnt delete the thread
it wasn't reported enough

[Anonymous No.14828059]

[Anonymous No.14828068]

>>14827840
he can just escape from the cage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0viKv1RDhak

[Anonymous No.14828106]

what's supposed to happen to a HLS after it has launched and transferred the astronauts from the moon?
it just stays there in lunar orbit? wouldn't that mean an increasing amount of empty HLS just flying around as more missions are sent?
would they have to reserve enough fuel per mission to get it into another out of the way orbit or back down to the moon thus cutting the maximum potential payload?

[Anonymous No.14828112]

Astronomers (derogatory)

[Anonymous No.14828137]

>>14828106
it would deorbit sooner or later

[Anonymous No.14828152]

[Anonymous No.14828155]

>>14828152
>Musk's Live Reaction

[Anonymous No.14828157]

>>14828152
sir musk when you double my bitcoin? please do needful and reply, bhenchod sir

[Anonymous No.14828158]

>>14825486
watching the testings maam

[Anonymous No.14828168]

please do something. Literally anything at all

[Anonymous No.14828170]

>>14828155
There is no way to sugarcoat this.

[Anonymous No.14828177]

>>14828112
there's some local boomer astronomy groups in my city that meet once a month, I was wondering if it would be worth checking out

[Anonymous No.14828179]

I haven't kept up with the latest developments. When will starship launch?

[Anonymous No.14828182]

>>14828179
July

[Anonymous No.14828189]

>>14828177
Sounds pretty dope desu if they're real not hobby astronomers.

[Anonymous No.14828190]

>SPECULOOS
>TRAPPIST
Wtf why are we letting those Belgians get so uppity

[Anonymous No.14828200]

Another overpressure notice

[Anonymous No.14828209]

>>14828190
Waffles hold fluids remarkably well in microgravity due to surface tension.

[Anonymous No.14828214]

>>14828200
Aaahhh I'm toooosting

[Anonymous No.14828241]

>>14828200
Bet they can get another few seconds of static in those 12 hours

[Anonymous No.14828256]

>>14827835
KEK

[Anonymous No.14828266]

I hope china is a team player here and accepts roscosmos as a partner for the ILRS lunar program, only to steal their R&D and boot them at the end lol

[Anonymous No.14828273]

[Anonymous No.14828294]

>>14827321
impressive very nice lets see paul allen space startup
>oh my god it has the largest wing span airplane

[Anonymous No.14828311]

>>14827321
>aerospike
extremely gimicky and i'm not sure the engines can be that far apart along the spike but not gonna write them off as definitive scam until they SPAC

[Anonymous No.14828354]

>>14828179
2 weeks

[Anonymous No.14828384]

>>14828311
Not an aerospike. They are also only using half of the spaces available for nozzles (so final engine is 30) although you might've spotted that. Spacs are also sort of out of fashion now, so I guess they'll have to take a different route?
"Welllllllllll if it is, it's an ugly one. It's designed to serve a purpose... not to be an aerospike." https://twitter.com/stoke_space/status/1549783748098396160

[Anonymous No.14828429]

They are removing stuff from B7.1, so static fire today is very likely.

[Anonymous No.14828437]

>>14828429
With our voyeuristic luck it'll stop just after or before spinning up the pumps again without actually firing.

[Anonymous No.14828471]

>>14828437
does a rocket really static fire if noone is looking at it

[Anonymous No.14828625]

>>14828437
If it didn't take a century to fill the spacecraft in each closing we probably would have been on the 20-raptorBoost static fire

[Anonymous No.14828647]

>>14828625
if they didn't detank the booster after every static fire they could do 10 a day.
if the engines weren't so experimental that they didn't have to pore over data and check them physically after every firing they could do 10 a day.

[Anonymous No.14828653]

>>14828647
It's not that easy in rocketry.

[Anonymous No.14828789]

>>14827309
Who is he?

[Anonymous No.14828790]

>>14828789
extremely rich Indian, dipping his toes in a lot of industries

[Anonymous No.14828795]

>>14828790
Wtf how did he become 10x rich in 2 years
Modi ka baap

[Anonymous No.14828804]

>>14827486
Apparently they’re trying to get certification for 40+ days when it was originally only given the green light for 20 days by SLD 45.

[Anonymous No.14828809]

>>14828804
I hope it stars uncontrollably yawing towards Orlando and when they try to send the signal to blow it up it just ignores it because the batteries have run out of juice

[Anonymous No.14828815]

>>14828804
If they delay again in October what do you think their odds are of launching this year?

If things slip past January 6th they'll need a third extension on their booster certification and I've heard that their odds of getting that aren't great.

[Anonymous No.14828817]

>>14828815
Yeah I don’t see a launch happening after october. In fact I don’t see a launch happening from now until october anyways lol. I think this thing will need to try february 2023 or later

[Anonymous No.14828824]

>>14828815
>third extension on their booster certification
This can only lead to a RUD

[Anonymous No.14828827]

>>14828824
Allah willing, it will level the entire pad

[Anonymous No.14828835]

Good morning, /sfg/.

[Anonymous No.14828836]

Water deluge is real

[Anonymous No.14828839]

>>14828836
well SLS has been delayed so might as well get that done

[Anonymous No.14828840]

>>14828835
Good morning sir, it will continue to a be a good morning for another week

https://lunaf.com/lunar-calendar/2022/

[Anonymous No.14828844]

>>14828836
Now, out of nowhere, and for no reason, SpaceX is pussying out doing a full static fire of B7. Did Joe Biden threaten Elon?

[Anonymous No.14828845]

>>14828839
More likely it's required for more engine static fires.

[Anonymous No.14828848]

>>14828835
Good morning!

[Anonymous No.14828853]

>>14828836
Ahhh I'm deluuuuging

[Anonymous No.14828854]

>>14828840
Which brings up a question to which I'd like to know the answer: Say we establish a lunar base (RACE FOR THE BASE) at the south pole somewhere. What does that mean for sunlight?

[Anonymous No.14828860]

Just realized
>Artemis II launches net May 2024
>A Falcon heavy mission will launch net April 30 2024
>Starship pad at LC-39A will be operational by then

We could see this pic related shot with Falcon Heavy, SLS, and Starship all in one picture.

If LC 49 gets built, then that could be even more starships in the backround.

Hell, Terran R is set for a maidan launch in 2024. We could potentially see all of these rockets on their respective pads together.

gonna be so kino

[Anonymous No.14828863]

>>14828817
Yeah, but if they can't get another 6 month certification for the boosters they have to go back to the VAB and destack everything. Maybe they can reuse the boosters after pulling the segments apart or maybe they need to wait for the next set to be ready. If they don't launch by the beginning of January we're going to be looking at a much longer delay than just to February.

[Anonymous No.14828864]

>>14828854
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_of_eternal_light

[Anonymous No.14828872]

>>14828860
Would look like this (minus SLS)

[Anonymous No.14828874]

>>14828848
Love these old shuttle webms

[Anonymous No.14828877]

>>14828864
> Detailed lunar topography collected by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) suggests that no points on the Moon receive perpetual light during both the winter and summer, but points on crater rims exist which have very extended periods of sunlight.
Interesting. Nuclear reactor it is!

[Anonymous No.14828884]

>>14828877

[Anonymous No.14828892]

>>14828877
that one night is a big problem

[Anonymous No.14828894]

>>14828844
meds

[Anonymous No.14828897]

>>14828068
>not posting gold meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4FItFf96oY

[Anonymous No.14828898]

The way to beat the lunar night at the south pole is having solar farms at multiple points and then hooking them up with cables. It's still super inconvenient and nuclear won't happen in a long time.
Mars is literally easier, travel time doesn't matter as much as power availability.

[Anonymous No.14828901]

>>14828874
Hate how NASA doesn't release footage like this anymore.

[Anonymous No.14828903]

>>14828898
so when one of those peaks is in the dark how close is the closest sunlit area

[Anonymous No.14828911]

>>14828901
It's illegal to publicly broadcast white people having fun

[Anonymous No.14828912]

>>14828860
multiple rockets looks so KINO, imagine launching two or more at the same time.

Would there by any benefits of launching two rockets nearby at the same time?

[Anonymous No.14828913]

>>14828892
indeed, too much batteries required
the solution is to use space based nuclear power from earth orbit to beam microwaves into the moon
I should write a blog post sometime about this

[Anonymous No.14828924]

>>14827251
ironic post since that twitter account is a black guy

[Anonymous No.14828930]

>>14828877
we'll use chemical batteries, hydrogen fuel cells, and simply conserving energy

[Anonymous No.14828931]

>ironic post since that twitter account is a black guy
kys retard

[Anonymous No.14828934]

>>14828892
Just drop a couple Tesla Megapacks up there, ez

[Anonymous No.14828935]

>>14828934
you didn't do the math

[Anonymous No.14828937]

>>14828935
I don't have to.

[Anonymous No.14828939]

>>14828935
>>14828937
>>14828934
this >>14828898 is orders of magnitude less mass

[Anonymous No.14828938]

>>14828935
Ok fine, like a dozen

[Anonymous No.14828943]

>>14828931
But I wasn't ironic.

[Anonymous No.14828949]

>>14828931
found the Clinton operative

[Anonymous No.14828954]

>>14828935
A megapack holds up to 3MWh, is around 7.15m x 1.6m and 23 tons. Assuming Starship can caryy 100 tons then you can fit roughly 4 per ship.

[Anonymous No.14828956]

Ready for your clone to mine the moon?

[Anonymous No.14828962]

>>14828956
Tory Bruno is so much smarter/realistic than zubrinites and muskovichs. ULA could probably overtake the industry with hydrogen depots

[Anonymous No.14828974]

>>14828954
>12mwh
the longest period of darkness on the best peak of eternal light is 7 days.
that gets you 71 kw of continuous power during that time per 100 tons of batteries.
that's less than the ISS uses, pretty bad deal imho.

[Anonymous No.14828976]

>>14828954
Actually why not integrate it? Use the ship itself as a megapack instead of unloading them, redesigning the interior with racks to hold the cells themselves you can probably get slightly more energy storage than the 12MWh base of mega packs, plus you won't need to unload them, just hook up the ship itself into the grid.

[Anonymous No.14828978]

https://youtu.be/cJ9eOrXw_jk
This is how we'll do it

[Anonymous No.14828980]

is jeff foust married?

[Anonymous No.14828982]

>>14828974
Send 2 ships then

[Anonymous No.14828986]

>>14828934
Based.
>>14828935
Cringe. If brute force isn’t working then you aren’t using enough force.

[Anonymous No.14828997]

>>14828982
compare that to solar panels at about 1kw/kg, you could carry the equivalent 71 kw by yourself in lunar gravity.
the distances to the other peaks at shackleton are tens of kilometers.
more solar and hvdc cables is literally hundreds of times more mass efficient than building starships full of batteries and still having to power down to below ISS levels.

[Anonymous No.14829001]

>>14828912
According to the documentary Armageddon, launching two secret military space shuttles at the same time is the best way to into space.

[Anonymous No.14829003]

>kys retard
golf foxtrot yankee, you LUCA

[Anonymous No.14829009]

Just a reminder that this short fat fuck with no upper stage has a higher payload capability to TLI than SLS.

[Anonymous No.14829010]

>>14828863
Wasn’t turning shuttle into a tranny conventional rocket supposed to be cheaper and faster? HOW did they mess up this badly

[Anonymous No.14829011]

>>14829009
and it's dead

[Anonymous No.14829013]

>>14829011
Just like SLS then.

[Anonymous No.14829017]

>>14829013
SLS is not dead, at least not yet.

[Anonymous No.14829020]

>>14829017
It's pinin' for the fjords.

[Anonymous No.14829022]

>>14829017

[Anonymous No.14829023]

>>14829022
Has anyone ever attempted to shoot a rocket?

[Anonymous No.14829024]

>>14829023
The ULA sniper

[Anonymous No.14829026]

>>14829024
ULA sniper does not exist.

[Anonymous No.14829028]

>>14829026
t. Tory Bruno

[Anonymous No.14829029]

>>14829026
cannot hurt you

[Anonymous No.14829032]

Apple event has started, rumor is a big satellite component of some aspect of itq

[Anonymous No.14829037]

>>14829032
You have to go back

[Anonymous No.14829043]

>>14828997
Why not both?

[Anonymous No.14829044]

Humans making and launching rockets to colonize Mars, is like Mars is an egg, rockets are sperm, and launching is ejectulating

[Anonymous No.14829046]

Okay so realistically when is the earliest possible date for a full stack static fire test? No sugarcoating please.

[Anonymous No.14829047]

>>14828924
a black guy high iq enough to know that affirmative action is a big part of why nasa sucks. not everyone is a racist like you, some people are capable of seeing issues outside of their racial implications
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.14829053]

>>14829046
It's impossible to tell.

[Anonymous No.14829056]

>>14829047
The video which scares /sfg/
>He hasn't seen Wernher von Braun’s Statement on Equal Employment Opportunity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOmHvoE2rMs
You have to go back

[Anonymous No.14829059]

>>14829056
>Equal
that's good and not what affirmative action is.

[Anonymous No.14829065]

>>14828106
>what's supposed to happen to a HLS after it has launched and transferred the astronauts from the moon?
Turned into a moon base, or some type of moon facility

[Anonymous No.14829068]

>>14829010
They said that it was going to be cheaper and faster, but they also lied through their teeth about the shuttle's projected flight rate. They lied so brazenly about that even the Soviets were saying "these economics make no fucking sense." They say a lot of things. Don't trust them. They're still part of the government.

If they actually cared about following the cheapest and quickest route they would have used a mix of orbital depots and second generation EELVs, or gone with a Shuttle-C design and a mission profile with distributed launches. Instead, the wrote in into law that NASA had to use a rocket that kept all of the old shuttle contractors happy and were handed a draft of a design that a bunch of congressional aids felt was the best way to do that.

>>14829009
It did have an upper stage; the "upper stage" was just going to be a mostly stock Blok-DM pulled off the top of the Proton that they'd stick at the bottom of the payload canister. Buran didn't need it because it came with its own OMS and Polyus didn't need it either because it had its own built in maneuvering unit. They also proposed a big cryogenic stage but that never got close to getting off the drawing board.

[Anonymous No.14829069]

>>14829059
did you watch the video, you good-for-nothing margarita brain?

[Anonymous No.14829070]

>>14829065
>implying
it needs to go back to orbit to return the people doofus. after that it needs refueling to do anything useful.

[Anonymous No.14829072]

>>14829069
>Already resorting to ad personam
Not surprising

[Anonymous No.14829088]

>>14829072
>complaining of ad personam
>in 4 fucking channel
you sir, are either acting retarded or truly retarded.

[Anonymous No.14829091]

>>14828155
Why does Elons interior design look like a 19th century bankers, and not Ernst Blofelds lair in 'You Only Live Twice'
Hopefully this is just want he shows the public and he really has some neat and unique and powerful and epic aesthetic ensembles

[Anonymous No.14829103]

MASTEN IS KILL

[Anonymous No.14829106]

>>14829069
i did, your point?

[Anonymous No.14829107]

Space Rock:
Hawkwind's classic space rock song "Spirit of the Age". In the song a human clone, one of many developed to be laborers, is employed on an asteroid mining operation with his fellow clones. He tells the tale of his life indirectly while expressing his emotions and desires in a letter to his wife back on Earth in the first verse. In the 2nd verse the clone tells the listener about himself directly:
I am a clone,
I am not alone
Every fiber of my flesh and bone
is identical to the others
Everything I say is in the same tone
As my test tube brother's voice
There is no choice between us
If you had ever seen us
You'd rejoice in your uniqueness
And consider every weakness
something special of your own
Being a clone I have no flaws to identify
Even this doggerel that pours from my pen
Has just been written by another twenty telepathic men
Oh, word for word,
it says:

"Oh, for the wings of any bird,
other than a battery hen"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbq0EjSt7XY

[Anonymous No.14829109]

>>14829091
because it's not his house. he's always at some rich friends place
>>14829103
>$4.5M
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.14829116]

>>14829106
did you listen to the part where he mentions affirmative action?

[Anonymous No.14829117]

with artemis 1 likely being delayed till mid-october, what are the chances of starship launching first?

[Anonymous No.14829120]

>>14829109
the whole i lIVe iN a 50k hOuSE shtick is cringe

[Anonymous No.14829121]

>>14829117
FAA says no

[Anonymous No.14829125]

>>14829103
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

This better not infect the rest of CLPS.

[Anonymous No.14829127]

>>14828974
>the longest period of darkness on the best peak of eternal light is 7 days.
might as well have a 7 days night every 7 days then it makes no difference. You would need batteries, nuclear or burn fuel and oxidizer

[Anonymous No.14829130]

>>14829117
>what are the chances of starship launching first
zero
if starship launches to orbit then we are in a simulation because there's no way its physically possible

[Anonymous No.14829131]

>>14829117
Zero, Starship launch license will be granted one day after SLS maiden launch.

[Anonymous No.14829132]

https://youtu.be/35mjxq4IUM4
the road to artemis

[Anonymous No.14829138]

>>14829009
Okay but Energia was actually a great design. It’s also funny to compare it to russia’s “““upcoming””” Yenisei which is pure dogshit. The soviet union had arguably one of the best rockets ever made and it crumbled after only 2 launches because russians are genetically predisposed to ruin everything great they have

[Anonymous No.14829139]

>>14829131
GUYS IF WE GOT LOISCENSE STARSHIP WOULD TOTALLY LAUNCH IN 2019!
JUST LIKE FSD LAUNCHED IN 2019!

[Anonymous No.14829143]

>>14829117
I guess the question is, if the FAA granted a license how quickly would Musk want to launch. My gut tells me even if they got it 2 years ago they wouldn’t have attempted launch yet. They aren’t ready

[Anonymous No.14829144]

>>14829127
>might as well have a 7 days night every 7 days then it makes no difference
it makes a huge difference if you're running molten oxide reactors to ISRU metals and shit. your total yearly output would go from 81% at shackleton ridge A to 50%

[Anonymous No.14829147]

>>14829143
that's because muska is a LIAR and a THIEF just like his goblin ERICA BURGER

[Anonymous No.14829149]

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20220013431/downloads/HLS%20IAC_Final.pdf
New HLS doc just dropped. Get in there faggots

[Anonymous No.14829152]

When is that Ariane going to launch today?

[Anonymous No.14829155]

>>14829131
>Cant launch without a loicense
lmaaooo lmaooo cucked as fuuukkk

[Anonymous No.14829158]

>>14829152
About four hours from now

[Anonymous No.14829159]

>>14829149
>2nd line
>o take the first woman and the first person of color t
SHUT THE FUCK UP WHAT THE FUCK IS FUCKING WRONG WITH YOU IM FUCKING TIRED OF THIS
YOU ARE SENDING A WOMAN? GREAT. WE SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT 50 YEARS AGO, BUT ANYWAYS, BETTER NOW THAN EVER.
BUT WHY THE FUCK SHOULD YOU MENTION THAT IN EVERY FUCKING DOCUMENT. I SWEAR TO GOD.

[Anonymous No.14829160]

>>14829149
>9m diameter
BIGGER, LONGER, THICKER

[Anonymous No.14829165]

>>14829149
DEPOTS INCLUDING THE FIRST CUNT AND MELANIN ON THE MOON

[Anonymous No.14829166]

>>14828901
Terry was an astronaut!?

[Anonymous No.14829169]

>>14829159
It's essentially a religious tic. Wokeists are scum.

[Anonymous No.14829171]

>>14829132
BIG JIM IS IN THE PANEL ALONG WITH BOLDEN AND GREG AUTRY AND SCOTT PACE AND MIKE GOLD WOWOWOW

[Anonymous No.14829172]

>>14829149
SpaceX now turns its focus to conducting the first orbital flight of the integrated Starship system (Spacecraft + Booster) which will come in the next year
ITS OVERRRR

[Anonymous No.14829174]

>>14829149
>A novel addition to the HLS procurement approach provides for the ability of the HLS industry provider to tap into the NASA workforce through what is called a collaboration task agreement.

I can only imagine how badly NASA engineers wanted to work on something new that they would actively campaign to be hired out to SpaceX just for the opportunity to do so

[Anonymous No.14829180]

>>14829107
>I would've liked you to have been deep frozen too
>And waiting still as fresh in your flesh for my return to Earth
>But your father refused to sign the forms to freeze you
>Let's see you'd be about 60 now
>And long dead by the time I return to Earth
>My time held dreams were full of you
>As you were when I left, still underage
>Your android replica is playing up again, it's no joke
>When she comes she moans another's name

what the fuck

[Anonymous No.14829181]

Would the oil rig give spacex a faster license/unlimited attempts? Why the fuck aren’t they going sicko mode on finishing those

[Anonymous No.14829183]

Soli Deo Gloria
One day we will reconquista the moon.

[Anonymous No.14829186]

>>14827333
>ctrl+f "Brownian motion"
>zero results
they're going to have a bad time

[Anonymous No.14829187]

>>14829181
because loicense isn't the issue
super heavy is a flawed design

[Anonymous No.14829191]

>NASA knows SLS/Orion is not going to have the launch cadence they need and is leaving room for a future transport opportunity after Artemis III

Bros... Lunar Dragon?

[Anonymous No.14829193]

>>14829186
google for doppler cooling

[Anonymous No.14829197]

>>14829191
Starship

[Anonymous No.14829198]

>>14829191
and you pulled that right out of your ass

[Anonymous No.14829212]

https://spacenews.com/nasa-and-china-are-eyeing-the-same-landing-sites-near-the-lunar-south-pole/

Uhh anons, the changs also have their slanty sights set on Shackleton Crater

[Anonymous No.14829213]

>>14829191
>Lunar Dragon?
Why? HLS could be modified into a orbital crew transport with essentially zero work. You'd still need dragon to get to LEO but from there you fly to the moon in a cruise liner instead of a can.

[Anonymous No.14829214]

heeeeeere it is, Apple announced emergency SOS via satellite

[Anonymous No.14829216]

>>14829214
Starlink or not?

[Anonymous No.14829217]

>>14829149

[Anonymous No.14829218]

>>14829214
apple partnering with tesla to make the tesla phone?

[Anonymous No.14829222]

>>14829216
>>14829218
no it can take 15 minutes to send a short message, no voice, and must be pointed funny.

[Anonymous No.14829223]

>>14829217
DEPOT

[Anonymous No.14829224]

>>14829216
Sounds like it's not Starlink. Phone shows you the direction you should direct it to connect with the satellite. So most likely it's some old shit in GEO.

[Anonymous No.14829225]

>>14829212
Not a big concern. Even at the speeds Artemis is going China doesn't have a chance of getting there first.

[Anonymous No.14829227]

>>14829224
no it uses the pomme constellation

[Anonymous No.14829228]

>>14829213
lunar dragon is more realitstic

[Anonymous No.14829231]

>>14829149
>In the fall of 2022, NASA plans to award SpaceX the Option B contract. As the only Option A provider, SpaceX is also the only company eligible for Option B. The objective for Option B is to develop and demonstrate a lunar lander that meets NASA’s sustaining requirements for missions beyond Artemis III. This work will culminate with another crewed demonstration landing.

[Anonymous No.14829233]

>>14829223
just call him steely dan

[Anonymous No.14829234]

Astra on suicide watch.
https://nitter.net/CNSpaceflight/status/1567328567884906497

[Anonymous No.14829236]

>>14829231
Holy fuck that's funny

[Anonymous No.14829237]

>>14829224
Yeah, talk about lipstick on a pig. Retards will probably now out thinking Apple reinvented the wheel, again. Their solution requires actual hardware installation while spacex works off already existing equipment in everyday phones. Not to mention its fucking a paid service, while I think (could be wrong) with tmobile it will already included with service.

[Anonymous No.14829239]

>>14829212
they will also return the first Mars samble

[Anonymous No.14829242]

>>14829213
You need aerobraking to come back from the moon to LEO, or another 3.2km/s left in the tank. HLS doesn't have a heatshield so will stay out at Gateway.

[Anonymous No.14829243]

>>14829149
>the HLS program will facilitate the rapid development and demonstration of the human landing system that will deliver the first woman, and in a later mission, the first person of color, to the Moon
niggerbros... it's over

[Anonymous No.14829246]

>>14829242
single HEO or NRHO refueling then proper refueling in LEO. IT IS THAT EASY

[Anonymous No.14829247]

So when spaceX announced their collab with t-mobile did Apple scramble to make this deal. Their emergency services service seems pretty inferior to what Starlink will offer

[Anonymous No.14829248]

>>14829180
Part of what the song is telling is that the clone has been bred or engineered strictly for the purpose of delivering labor, part of that engineering includes making the clone into a perverted, masturbation obsessed gigacuck. He is given a rich sexual fantasy life to keep him occupied during his off hours, he has a fake loli wife which he will never touch and a mechanical doll version of her who prefers to fuck other dudes. Regardless all that the clone still considers himself perfect in every way, wouldn't change a thing, masturbatory self-love is enough to satisfy his weak willed mind, he has no desire to escape his slavery, he doesn't even consider the possibly, his philandering robot sex toy's vagina will keep him on the job site, content and performing his daily duties until it is time to replace him.

[Anonymous No.14829253]

>>14829246
That's about another 30 tanker launches. Aerobraking is cheaper and simpler. I'd actually expect a crew launch Moonship 2.0 with tiles that just does the whole mission single stack aside from tanking up in LEO at a depot on the way to the moon.

[Anonymous No.14829255]

>>14829228
How? HLS needs minimal at most modifications to work as an interorbital crew transport, while Dragon needs a buffed heat shield, a service module to replace the cargo trunk, an uprated version of Falcon Heavy to launch it (that would also need to go through NASA's crew certification process) as well as unspecified modifications to LC-39A to be able to launch said rocket.

>>14829242
You usually go with aerobreaking because most spacecraft don't have the fuckoff absurd sized propellant tanks Starship has.

[Anonymous No.14829257]

>>14829253
>That's about another 30 tanker launches
totally wrong. there is no need for the tanker to be even close to full. just enough to get it and HLS back from NRHO or HEO. that is not a full tank.

[Anonymous No.14829260]

https://www.marsdaily.com/reports/Martian_rock_metal_composite_shows_potential_of_3D_printing_on_Mars_999.html
proontfags, i kneel

[Anonymous No.14829262]

>>14829217
Shelbysisters.... It's over...

[Anonymous No.14829263]

https://www.space.com/astronaut-spaceflight-cancer-dna-mutations-study
>Astronauts' blood shows signs of DNA mutations due to spaceflight
>The researchers stored astronaut blood for 20 years to see how short space shuttle flights affected spaceflyer health.
>The researchers found a higher frequency of somatic mutations in the genes of the 14 astronauts considered in the study, relative to statistics for the population who has been to space.
it's over

[Anonymous No.14829264]

>>14829260
>"In space, 3D printing is something that has to happen if we want to think of a manned mission because we really cannot carry everything from here," said Bandyopadhyay, a professor in WSU's School of Mechanical and Materials Engineering. "And if we forgot something, we cannot come back to get it."

PROONTCHADS COMPLETELY VALIDATED

[Anonymous No.14829265]

>>14829260
cringe. none of them are thinking large scale enough.

[Anonymous No.14829286]

>>14829263
>being exposed to more radiation than the average person makes you show more mutations in your DNA
woah....

[Anonymous No.14829287]

>>14829260
>>14829265
titanium is such a tease-it's not at all rare or hard to find, but it is a pain in the ass to work with and process. i think martian surface condition will make processing it somewhat easier than on earth, not much of a concern with it burning and mars has plenty of titanium on its surface.
iron, basalt, titanium, silicon are all quite common on mars. i wonder how abundant gold and silver are?

[Anonymous No.14829293]

[Anonymous No.14829302]

he's back at it again. an unstoppable force
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=touGxI4PgnE

[Anonymous No.14829308]

>>14829227
>>14829216
Globalstar
https://twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1567579981005393923

[Anonymous No.14829309]

>>14829068
>even the Soviets were saying "these economics make no fucking sense."
The Soviets were very good at economics, their goal was not expanding their own economy, their goal was to allow the economy to provide whatever limited resources were necessary to stave of a revolt and skim off all the rest for their personal private war chests.
When Brezhnev decided he needed a new bag man to carry off all his cash, he married his daughter to a military officer, a guy named Chubanov. The two didn't know each other, they never developed a relationship even after marriage, but because Chubanov was married to Brezhnev's daughter, the boss could be assured the money given to Chubanov would stay in the family. Chubanov was given the task of skimming wealth from the Uzbek cotton industry and in turn the Aral sea was drained over time to produce cotton to make money for Chubanov. Chubanov lost his protection after daddy Brezhnev died, he was arrested and it came to light that Chubanov had at least $5 billion in West German and Swiss bank accounts, skimmed from cotton sales. That was just the amount they were able to recover, he may have made off with more and that was early 1980s money. $5 billion in 1980 was enough to pay for the construction of an HST.
The Soviet space program could've had an HST if they'd wanted it to, they managed their resources towards other aims instead. They knew what they were doing and their execution of their economic plans hit the goal precisely every time.
Anastas Mikoyan's son Stephan wrote an autobiography which will fill in the detail for you if you want a primary source account, he was a fighter/experimental test pilot and airplane salesman for MiG and fills in details about the USSR aerospace industry as well

[Anonymous No.14829318]

>>14829302
https://youtu.be/Q1AJ3QGvrb4?t=308

[Anonymous No.14829319]

man, KSP is frustrating as hell. it's not the rockets blowing up, i actually enjoy the process of trial and error there, slowly putting together better and better designs. it's the random shit, like parachutes deploying in the middle of a launch no matter how i stage the rocket, the designer telling me i didn't put a manned module on the rocket despite the fact that i clearly put a manned pod there and can see it, the random auto-snapping the parts do when i try to put them on and so on
the game honestly just doesn't feel complete, feels like an alpha version. i wish there were a more... functional rocket design/spaceflight sim, but it doesn't look like there is one

[Anonymous No.14829321]

>>14829243
SEPARATE but EQUAL landers

[Anonymous No.14829324]

>>14829319
filtered

[Anonymous No.14829331]

>>14829243
does this mean our boy victor glover hasn't been selected? This is very disgraceful and NASA should be ashamed. There is no one else (apart from aldrin himself) who is more qualifed.

[Anonymous No.14829335]

>>14829319
You need at the very least the Community Fixes mod, CKAN makes it easy
https://github.com/KSP-CKAN/CKAN/releases

You should be careful to distinguish between Pods and Cabins (they're in two different tabs in the simple vehicle editor). Pods have command capability and are what you need to have a "complete rocket" according to the editor. The snapping behavior is something you'll learn to work around with weird camera angles and part clipping

[Anonymous No.14829336]

>>14829309
>Chubanov had at least $5 billion in West German and Swiss bank accounts
it always amuses me when you hear about shit like this and the person stealing is clearly trapped in some kind of weird mental loop of just piling up the stolen money in a bank accounts and becoming attached to that abstract number being high. I mean fuck me, why on earth wouldn't you be converting that wealth over to art or property via shell companies and intermediaries? Keeping it all in a handful of bank accounts is insane. humans are such stupid greedy creatures.

[Anonymous No.14829339]

>>14829212

[Anonymous No.14829341]

>>14829331
What about Jonny Kim

[Anonymous No.14829345]

>>14829319
Those things have never happened and I have about 300 hours in KSP.

[Anonymous No.14829346]

NASA's astronaut selection is fundamentally broken.
Around 80% of the time on station is spent on maintenance.
NASA should be hiring under water welders, not some meme over-achievers like Jonny Jim

[Anonymous No.14829348]

>>14829345
I've been playing KSP on and off since before there were planets and that shit happens all the goddamn time.

[Anonymous No.14829352]

>>14829348
I guess I'm lucky then.

[Anonymous No.14829358]

>>14829346
i couldn't care less lol. i care about rockets

[Anonymous No.14829362]

>>14829358
rocket"s"? More like rocket. Only starship matters everything else loser rocket

[Anonymous No.14829368]

>>14829346
let's hope the new gen of space stations have much better performance-ideally you'd want less than 5% of the crew's time to be spent on maintenance.

[Anonymous No.14829370]

>>14829339
this show is goofy and stupid

[Anonymous No.14829372]

>>14829370
That's a funny way to spell "fantastic and awesome".

[Anonymous No.14829375]

So with the newest iPhone you have to point it at certain point in the sky to connect with a satellite, and it's for emergency use only.
Meanwhile T-Mobile deal with Starlink will allow any smartphone to connect with the internet anywhere on Earth.

[Anonymous No.14829376]

>>14829368
New generation of space stations will have privately hired astronauts hired only to do maintenance.

[Anonymous No.14829377]

>>14829375
Internet is a bit of an exeggeration. The most you will be able to do is to send and receive text messages.

[Anonymous No.14829380]

Diversity is mission-critical.

[Anonymous No.14829381]

>>14829368
They will be better, at least at the start. A lot of the maintenance work comes from how stupidly old the modules are. The main components of ROS were built by Soviet engineers to be the core of Mir-2 and if launched back in that role would have reached the end of their expected operational lives while Bill Clinton was still in office. The complaints that cosmonauts have over the work needed to keep their geriatric half of the space station running justifies Russian alcoholism.

New commercial stations will be new, and they should be cheap enough to decommission and replace before they get to the state the ISS is currently in.

[Anonymous No.14829385]

>>14827333
>photon particle coupling
So try on earths magnetism

[Anonymous No.14829388]

>>14829265
good news anon, it turns out even a very small version of this can work at the scale of making like 10 kgs of iron per day. one or two of these modules and a basic steel production system could churn out a few tons of purified steel per year, very useful for an early stage colony to make tools and structures
https://youtu.be/GJKoBgBCPW0?t=276

[Anonymous No.14829393]

>>14827809
Chinese space plastic polymere so cheap it replace broken made in china for good product

[Anonymous No.14829397]

>>14828860
You ever think the space station is set in the middle of soggy puddles?

[Anonymous No.14829398]

What do you think, gays?

[Anonymous No.14829402]

>>14829398
publishing krystal fanfiction?

[Anonymous No.14829409]

>>14829398
He needs to host his own fucking website if he wants editorial control. Substack is just another platform that can cancel him at any time.

[Anonymous No.14829415]

>>14829409
>Cancel him
It hosts some of the most vocal journalists of our time

[Anonymous No.14829431]

what are some good books to serve as an intro to spaceflight, beyond just "i like rockets, they're cool"
all i'm seein is textbooks, and those are just unbearably dry to me. i don't need the stuff i read to be super easily digestible pop sci, but sittin around reading a series of equations from a textbook is just too dull

[Anonymous No.14829432]

>>14829415
For now. Twitter used to be the same way.

[Anonymous No.14829436]

>>14829431
Behold, the /sfg/ canon.

http://projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/

[Anonymous No.14829474]

We know there are a fuckton of startups working on small launchers. Are there any startups working on medium/heavy lift vehicles? (Besides Relativity)

[Anonymous No.14829495]

rockets should be long straight smooth and skinny, with no changes in diameter and no protrusions

[Anonymous No.14829499]

>>14829495
Side boosters are cool.

[Anonymous No.14829507]

>>14829149
do they explicitly say what they plan to do with a HLS after its returned from the Moon to Gateway?

[Anonymous No.14829510]

>>14829495
amen brother

[Anonymous No.14829512]

>>14829507
Nope. They're very careful to mention that once the NASA astronauts leave the HLS, NASA is done with it as far as contractual obligations are concerned (they do mention "disposal" though, so I imagine there is some language in the contract about hazard mitigation).

[Anonymous No.14829517]

Isn't spacex supposed to be working on their own eva suit?

[Anonymous No.14829518]

>>14829507
No, but there are few ideas
1.do unmanned landing on the moon with reserve fuel and keep it there as an emergency moonbase for later missions
2.reuse it for future manned missions
3.keep it docked to lunar gateway somehow as a part of the station
4.send it back to earth as part of the ISS or some other future station.
5.destroy by crashing in to the moon for data.

[Anonymous No.14829521]

>>14829517
For Polaris Dawn, which is supposed to be happening in 3 months although they still haven't released anything yet

[Anonymous No.14829524]

>>14829518
Send the depot to refuel it.

[Anonymous No.14829527]

>>14829474
Medium/heavy is normally a bit outside of what startups are usually capable of. You want to start with something smaller to get the basics nailed down and build up a successful history for potential customers. Relativity is actually a good example of this, starting with Terran-1 before trying to get Terran R flying.

Firefly is teaming up with Northrop Grumman for the Antares 300 which will lift in the same weight class as Antares 230 and Neutron. "Beta" will probably develop into a more advanced version of this post-acquisition, maybe with some reusability.

Pivdenmash is (in theory) working on the Cyclone 4M, but domestic Ukrainian rockets were a dodgy proposition before the current war.

There's a few ideas that have been floated by Chinese "space corporations" that would be in this class, but those groups are all pretty focused on monetizing derivatives of the DF-31/41 ICBM, so I'd be surprised if any of those plans are more than talk.

None of those groups are really startups in the proper sense. Firefly teamed up with big aerospace, Pivden is an old Soviet design bureau, and the Chinese companies are all just the PLA hiding behind a shell corporation. It'd be nice to see more players trying to go straight for 10,000kg/LEO but the ones that do try (Beal, Kistler) usually don't turn out all that well.

[Anonymous No.14829530]

>>14827840
>22 years labor camp
Gulag is back on the menu.

[Anonymous No.14829534]

>>14829518
I wonder if you could fit it with solar electric propulsion unit that take a few months to get back to LEO for refuelling

[Anonymous No.14829539]

>>14829518
>1.do unmanned landing on the moon with reserve fuel and keep it there as an emergency moonbase for later missions
too little fuel
>2.reuse it for future manned missions
too little fuel
>3.keep it docked to lunar gateway somehow as a part of the station
too little docking ports
>4.send it back to earth as part of the ISS or some other future station.
too little fuel
>5.destroy by crashing in to the moon for data.
maybe enough fuel

[Anonymous No.14829542]

>>14829527
i think stoke has picked a good place to aim at for a first rocket-1.6 tons to leo is decent, and i doubt they stop with that

[Anonymous No.14829566]

Frog launch in an hour.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhHUbSuZN_8

[Anonymous No.14829567]

[Anonymous No.14829572]

>>14829566
please no talking heads

[Anonymous No.14829579]

>>14829566
would rather eat dirt from the sidewalk than watch

[Anonymous No.14829586]

>>14828877
just like put your solar panels on a stick

[Anonymous No.14829587]

>>14829567
cute. the rocket is a piece of overpriced shit but it's good to be reminded of the humanity of those involved with its production. i hope she eventually gets a job with a good rocket company and has a happy life.

[Anonymous No.14829597]

>>14829499
wrong

[Anonymous No.14829601]

>>14827258
>>14827296
Ah, a massive open ended no bid contract with no penalty clauses, sounds like a recipe for success

[Anonymous No.14829602]

>>14827321
Bill Gatestein is trying one last ditch effort to put Jews on Mars with the goyim.

[Anonymous No.14829614]

>>14829566
19 minutes

[Anonymous No.14829615]

>>14829602
At least photoshop in George Floyd, /pol/

[Anonymous No.14829623]

>>14829518
6. mount a very good camera on it and operate it as a second LRO

[Anonymous No.14829624]

>>14829602
spacex has a warm relationship with israel-they put an israeli citizen in orbit recently and israel is an enthusiastic member of the artemis accords, with several major companies involved in space technology.
how is the non-jew gates funding a rocket start up a jewish plot to move into an industry they already have a strong role in?

[Anonymous No.14829625]

>>14829542
It'd be interesting to see just how much they can scale up their design. Their second stage engine is supposed to be integrated into an actively cooled all-metallic thermal protection system. That sort of design might have a hard upper limit on just how big it can go.

[Anonymous No.14829627]

>>14829614
love the rick and mortar style

[Anonymous No.14829629]

>>14829023
yeah they accelerate too quickly and leave my range too fast to reliably hit with birdshot

[Anonymous No.14829630]

>>14829409
kek, that makes me think that if Zubrin were a billionaire and as popular as Musk he would've been cancelled long ago lmao

[Anonymous No.14829646]

>>14829630
he's an odd duck-on some level i don't think he's ever fully shed being a LaRouchite. even when i don't agree with him i always find his writings interesting. i'm going to miss him when he dies, which i really hope doesn't happen until he gets a chance to see humans on mars.

[Anonymous No.14829647]

>>14829630
>if my grandmother had wheels she'd be a bicycle
Literally no one gives a shit about Zubrin outside this place, it's one giant forced meme

[Anonymous No.14829651]

>>14829647
Man literally wrote the book on Mars colonisation

[Anonymous No.14829653]

>>14829647
>Literally no one gives a shit about Zubrin outside this place, it's one giant forced meme

[Anonymous No.14829658]

>>14829647
wrong

[Anonymous No.14829659]

>>14829647

[Anonymous No.14829664]

>>14829651
>the book on Mars colonisation
A book on Mars "colonisation" that is riddled with errors, even the revised version

[Anonymous No.14829670]

>>14829335
you don't need a command pod if you have a remote guidance unit

[Anonymous No.14829671]

>>14829647
>it's one giant forced meme
based

[Anonymous No.14829676]

>stupid talkshow once again
I hate the french

[Anonymous No.14829689]

>>14829664
name an error

[Anonymous No.14829692]

>>14829676
Arianespace wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the folly of the shuttle program and the insult of Symphonie. This is a monster of our own creation.

[Anonymous No.14829693]

>>14829539
Just send the tanker to refuel it in lunar orbit.

[Anonymous No.14829699]

>>14829539
2. requires refueling in NRHO or other lunar orbits but is doable
3. a part of two, pain in the ass but
4. doable actually as long as you're trying to crash it into point nemo or something
5. same as 4

[Anonymous No.14829704]

Germans should make their own rocket. If they could build the V2 back then they can make a rocket better than SS now.

[Anonymous No.14829707]

>>14829704
>Germans should make their own rocket
are they allowed to do that?

[Anonymous No.14829709]

>>14829647
Elon Musk gave a huge cash infusion to the Mars society before SpaceX was ever a thing, and has personally attended Mars Society convention many times. Zubrin provides the vision, Musk provides the way

[Anonymous No.14829710]

It's under five minutes to launch and they're still showing clips. I despise this.

[Anonymous No.14829712]

>>14829647
Zubrin groomed Musk into spaceflight.

[Anonymous No.14829715]

Are frogs associated with France? Why?

[Anonymous No.14829716]

>>14829715
You are what you eat.

[Anonymous No.14829717]

>>14829149
OH NONONONONONO

[Anonymous No.14829718]

[Anonymous No.14829719]

>>14829372
SJW writers ruined it for plot sense
Unrealistic scenarios ruined the realism sense
Hyper time scale ruined the pacing

[Anonymous No.14829720]

>>14829692
Arianespace was founded in 1980, a year before the Shuttle ever flew

[Anonymous No.14829721]

ids habbening

[Anonymous No.14829722]

DECOLLAGE

[Anonymous No.14829723]

DECOLLAGE

[Anonymous No.14829724]

>>14829689
The whole part about ICE vehicles, which is also objectively erroneous due to typos
>>14829712
Take your medication

[Anonymous No.14829725]

plumes from SRBs are really nice

[Anonymous No.14829729]

>>14829724
are you allergic to elaboration? What was in error? You can 100% run an ICE on mars using methane and oxygen if you want to-did he miscalculate something about raw power output or something?

[Anonymous No.14829731]

>>14829729
Read the chapter you idiot, I don't exist to spoon feed you

[Anonymous No.14829742]

How is SLS fucking up hydrogen fueling so badly when Ariane 5 has been making it look easy for decades?

[Anonymous No.14829746]

>>14829647
Without Zubrin, the ITS and BFR concepts could have been Hydrologgs :DD from the outset. Just imagine the disaster.

[Anonymous No.14829748]

why do they keep those hoses attached even after it took off?

[Anonymous No.14829749]

>>14829707
yeah i think so https://www.rfa.space/launcher/

[Anonymous No.14829752]

>>14829742
The mobile launcher tail connectors have always been pretty unreliable

[Anonymous No.14829754]

>>14829742
If the valves break, they will have to give us more money for another, sounds good to me
t. Boing

[Anonymous No.14829764]

>>14829749
I think most European new space companies are German. It's probably a psychological reaction to the majority of European spaceflight being controlled by France and Italy.

>>14829742
How is SLS fucking up hydrogen fueling so badly when Atlas-Centaur and H-IIA have been making it look easy for decades?

[Anonymous No.14829769]

>>14829742
They're not allowed to use better parts because then shuttle contractors will scream at Congress.

[Anonymous No.14829772]

>>14829746
ITS -was- hydrologgs. Most of the ITS to Starship changes come from abandoning LH2 and carbon fiber.

[Anonymous No.14829778]

lmao this thales recruitment pitch is so cheesy

Are they that hard up for interns?

[Anonymous No.14829781]

>>14829772
Holy fucking how retarded are you? ITS was NEVER hydrolox. Hydrolox raptor was abandoned years before ITS was ever revealed. Carbon fiber was abandoned as a cope

[Anonymous No.14829784]

>>14829781
>Carbon fiber was abandoned as a cope
XD

[Anonymous No.14829788]

>>14829781
i do not think they designed raptor without designing ITS in parallel. you can't make an engine if you don't know what rocket it's going on

[Anonymous No.14829789]

>>14829781
having fuckoff hueg cf tanks was walked away from after they ran into really nasty issues with the tanks dealing very poorly with the cold during testing.
cf is quite good in smaller tanks, everyone uses it

[Anonymous No.14829790]

>>14829778
It's hard to be very enthusiastic about a job when you'll be effectively stuck at intern-grade until you're even older than the fossils you're handing your resume to.

[Anonymous No.14829794]

https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/09/07/1059067/chinese-spacex-engineers-linkedin-scam/

[Anonymous No.14829795]

>>14829789
Cost too, blowing up so many tanks the program would have run out of money before even a starhopper-tier test flight if they didn't just say 'fuck it' and started welding them instead

[Anonymous No.14829796]

>>14829794
Why haven't you doubled my crypto bags Elon

[Anonymous No.14829801]

>>14829794
No refunds

[Anonymous No.14829809]

>>14829794
linkedin is good for staying caught up on tech businesses and using job postings to get hints of new porgrams, but boy oh boy is it riddled with bullshit and cringe

[Anonymous No.14829810]

>>14829794
kek every time i hear about people using linkedin as a social network i'm just so bewildered

[Anonymous No.14829814]

>>14829810
I deleted my LI years ago

[Anonymous No.14829817]

>>14829788
Raptor was never developed for a booster in its inception circa 2009. It was meant to be a hydrolox upper stage engine for Falcon. At that time, Merlin 2 was meant to power their super heavy lifters, the Falcon X line, using kerolox. Raptor hydrolox was abandoned for methalox in November 2012, and given a new responsibility of use on the booster for MCT at the same time
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2020/10/the-continued-evolution-of-the-big-falcon-rocket/

[Anonymous No.14829875]

>>14829253
>Aerobraking is cheaper and simpler.
30 tanker launches probably wouldn't be cheaper than giving moonship a lunar heatshield. we'll see it eventually but i doubt it's gonna be this decade.

[Anonymous No.14829891]

>>14829149
has the media caught on to this yet?

[Anonymous No.14829893]

>>14829567
dios mio... la creatura...

[Anonymous No.14829895]

>>14829720
and they were a complete meme until challenger left ariane 4 as the only viable commercial launcher

[Anonymous No.14829902]

https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/elon-musk-258-billion-dogecoin-lawsuit-expands-2022-09-07/
>Elon Musk $258 billion Dogecoin lawsuit expands
>The $258 billion racketeering lawsuit accusing Elon Musk of running a pyramid scheme to support the cryptocurrency Dogecoin has expanded, adding seven new investor plaintiffs and six new defendants including his tunnel construction business Boring Co.
>According to an amended complaint filed on Tuesday night in Manhattan federal court, Musk, his electric car company Tesla Inc (TSLA.O), his space tourism company SpaceX, Boring and others intentionally drove up the price of Dogecoin more than 36,000% over two years and then let it crash.
>Tesla, SpaceX and Boring did not immediately respond on Wednesday to requests for comment.
maybe we got too cocky?

[Anonymous No.14829904]

>>14829902
this smells like a fishing expedition into tesla finances

[Anonymous No.14829905]

>>14829902
Wow, elon musk forced me to lose my life saving in crypto. can i get in on this??? Spaceflight?? Fuck you

[Anonymous No.14829906]

>>14829902
why are lawsuits even allowed over unregulated crpyot?

[Anonymous No.14829909]

>>14829906
lawsuits are allowed over anything. i can sue you for this post but the judge is gonna throw it out as soon as he reads the filing.

[Anonymous No.14829912]

>>14829904
Better yet it's someone trying to short stock again and manipulate it with news

[Anonymous No.14829914]

>>14829893
Sometimes, it's important to be reminded of the things that we hope spaceflight will enable us to escape.

[Anonymous No.14829915]

>>14829902
>his space tourism company SpaceX

[Anonymous No.14829916]

Bezos seriously thought he could patent barge landings

[Anonymous No.14829917]

>>14829914
I want to escape from both of these things
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST I HATE THE ANTICHRIST I HATE THE ANTICHRIST
I HATE COST PLUST CONTRACT I HATE COST PLUST CONTRACT I HATE COST PLUST CONTRACT

[Anonymous No.14829920]

>>14829567
I always make the assumption that people that look like this loath white men. A bad habit I should drop to be fair.

[Anonymous No.14829924]

>>14829916
Bezos also seriously thought he could sue his way into using 39A """"alongside"""" spacex

[Anonymous No.14829928]

>>14829567
the "dismantler" phenotype

[Anonymous No.14829930]

>>14829924
Oh yeah I forgot about that hahahah

[Anonymous No.14829937]

>>14829902
kek. if this even gets to court we know america is truly fucked

[Anonymous No.14829939]

>>14829709
>Zubrin provides the vision
Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.14829942]

>>14829906
In the US, you can file lolsuits for practically anything.

[Anonymous No.14829953]

>>14829920
They don't hate white men as much as they hate themselves. They're deeply insecure creatures overloaded with a ingrained victim complex who have been trained to hate on command as a form of pressure release by the media they soak themselves in. White straight men are just the most easily justified targets in their deeply bigoted ideology.

Don't ignore what the evidence of your experience and instincts is telling you. This person is fundamentally broken in a way that makes them dangerous to others. Behave accordingly.

[Anonymous No.14829960]

>wake up
>apple got brutally mogged by tmobile

[Anonymous No.14829961]

>>14829953
alright alright get back on topic

[Anonymous No.14829968]

>>14829960
free for only the first two years too lol
>WE SEE YOU'RE TRYING TO CALL EMERGENCY SERVICES, PLEASE PAY FOR APPLE SAT SOS TO CONTINUE
>ALSO YOU ARE OVULATING

[Anonymous No.14829974]

fuck apple so much

[Anonymous No.14829975]

Some stamps arrived today, bought them from a friendly old man
Found a little thank you card in the envelope too

[Anonymous No.14829982]

>>14829968
>WE NOTICED YOU MISSED YOUR PERIOD THIS MONTH
>GEOFENCE PROXIMITY TO ABORTION CLINIC DETECTED
>SHERIFF'S OFFICE NOTIFIED

[Anonymous No.14829983]

>>14829975
comfy

[Anonymous No.14829990]

>>14829982
Redditors were actually concerned about that


>>14829961
sir this is a space wendies

[Anonymous No.14829992]

>>14829975
Very cool anon

[Anonymous No.14829993]

>>14829960
Feels good being an Android user on tmobile 2bh.

>>14829990
topkek I was just shitposting

[Anonymous No.14829994]

>>14829953
...are you okay anon? This is a genuinely deranged thing to say about an image of someone standing in front of a rocket. like tihs has literal dylan roof energy. i really hope we don't have to deal with an sfg regular going apeshit and murdering people or something.

[Anonymous No.14829995]

>>14829646
>i don't think he's ever fully shed being a LaRouchite
That's a bit obvious, he had made his career off of shilling LaRouche's ideas for nuclear energy and Mars. Their political action committee still uses the idea for fundraising, the suggested contribution of $20 must go a long way.

https://schillerinstitut.dk/si/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/20190608-moon-mars-full-nobleed.pdf

[Anonymous No.14829996]

>>14829939
SpaceX exists because of Zubrin.

[Anonymous No.14829999]

>>14829975
/comfy/

[Anonymous No.14830001]

>>14829996
SOURCE:
IT WAS REVEALED TO ME IN A DREAM. ROBERT ZUBRIN INVENTED MARS COLONIZATION

[Anonymous No.14830002]

>>14829990
Wendeez nuts

[Anonymous No.14830004]

>>14829996
Whoops my post sent before I finished. SpaceX exists because of Zubrin and Obama

[Anonymous No.14830005]

Just get me off this fucking planet already

[Anonymous No.14830010]

>>14829902
Crypto isn't a pyramid scheme.

It's more like the Dutch Tulip Mania.

[Anonymous No.14830011]

[Anonymous No.14830014]

And to think we were worried about how many more fueling cycles it was cleared for

[Anonymous No.14830016]

>axiom will be making the space suits for artemis
it makes sense but still kind of surprising

[Anonymous No.14830020]

>>14829953
kek poltards can't help publicly seething at their own delusions.
if she's an engineer on the rocket then she spent her life around white guys and likes them very much.
you'll never be great if you're consumed by irrational anger about the wrong things.

[Anonymous No.14830022]

SpaceX exists because of Ghislaine Maxwell. Proof? They once took a photo together, it must be true.

[Anonymous No.14830025]

>>14830001
He Marspilled Elon therefore he is responsible for SpaceX existing.

[Anonymous No.14830027]

the faggot did it again

[Anonymous No.14830034]

>>14830014
what.... happens to it if that happens? just slap it over to the rocket garden?

[Anonymous No.14830036]

>>14830034
The LH2 microfractures become macrofractures and the ET, excuse me """core stage""" crumbles apart.

[Anonymous No.14830037]

>>14829939
von Braun is nazi and his legacy died.
zubrin is an israelite, and sls israel.

[Anonymous No.14830041]

>>14829975
i have a gold star wars stamp, do you want it?

[Anonymous No.14830050]

>>14829902
Another short sellers game lmao

[Anonymous No.14830051]

>>14829902
Musk should counter sue all these guys and their shadow backers for trillion dollars and bankrupt everyone of them

[Anonymous No.14830053]

>>14829902
This is why you have automatic sell prices. So you don't lose money.

Unless your interest is long term drip investment. Then you hold hold hold.

[Anonymous No.14830054]

>>14830034
I don't think anyone knows the answer to that. It feels like we're running up against a lot of questions that no one has any real answers for. Are the boosters safe to be recertified again? Will the FTS batteries be good for an extra week or two? Will we ever find out why the GSE leaks so damn much?

[Anonymous No.14830055]

>>14830001
You seem mad, bro. It's time to face facts: Robert Zubrin is responsible for everything you love in this world. SpaceX, Mars, /sfg/, Elon Musk, Shuttle-derived HLVs. Everything.

[Anonymous No.14830058]

>>14830054

[Anonymous No.14830065]

>>14830055
This proves it's a forced meme, note the relatively few mentions of Zubrin in 2019, which was the first full year of /sfg/'s existence.

[Anonymous No.14830069]

>>14830065
You know the thing about trends is they eventually go away as people lose interest
Huh weird, wonder why less zubrin posts happened whilst the general was deadest ever...

[Anonymous No.14830070]

>>14830055
>>14830065
If you weren't in /sfg/ in 2019 you're ngmi

[Anonymous No.14830081]

>>14830027
yeah we've had enough of your shit
eat shit and die collagefag

[Anonymous No.14830086]

>>14830065
it also proves /sfg/ is a forced meme

[Anonymous No.14830093]

>>14829388
i really wanna know the cost of the 250amp version
or one slightly larger
god that would be great for diy

[Anonymous No.14830119]

we might catch up to last year's record breaking number of launches

[Anonymous No.14830123]

>>14830119
it’s still not enough

[Anonymous No.14830130]

new thread
>>14829987
>>14829987
>>14829987

[Anonymous No.14830131]

>>14830119
If we can get to 65 launches Falcon 9 will have the most launches per year of any rocket ever.

[Anonymous No.14830135]

>>14830130
bruh

[Anonymous No.14830137]

>>14830130
Fuck off homo

[Anonymous No.14830165]

>>14830130
This fag needs to be banned

[Anonymous No.14830166]

>>14829953
>throwing a tantrum
>>14830027
>being a faggot
/stg/ didnt work out huh

[Anonymous No.14830167]

sfg a mimir, wake up tomorrow morning

[Anonymous No.14830169]

>>14830093
You could make small batch hastelloy or other boutique alloys if you wanted. Might be nice for prototyping.

[Anonymous No.14830174]

>>14830169
it seems like you could throw nearly any scrap in it?
might be useful for that and guys who dumpster dive etc

[Anonymous No.14830186]

>>14830174
If you're smelting scrap, no need for MOE. An arc furnace will do just fine. The MOE reactor would likely be dealing with finely powdered feed stock. If you need a limited but high-spec run of some specialty alloy with 11 herbs and spices, something like this could be cost effective and fast turn around.

[Anonymous No.14830194]

>>14829524
Turn the hls into depot, or tank to use on moon, maybe cabin can be seperated to use as part of base

[Anonymous No.14830206]

KSP 2?

[Anonymous No.14830212]

>>14830206
3 months left
tick tock nu-Squad

[Anonymous No.14830226]

>>14830212
It got pushed back to 2023. They posted this clip of the pre-alpha after the SLS scrub. It's still looking pretty goddamn rough.

https://nitter.net/KerbalSpaceP/status/1566094363314233346

[Anonymous No.14830236]

>>14830226
looks too much like ksp with new visuals. i am betting they didn't fix the horrendous editor nor the terrible performance once you get into hundreds of parts.

[Anonymous No.14830241]

>>14830167
hasta mañana, anon

[Anonymous No.14830245]

guys you are posting in the wrong thread
migrate to the new thread
>>>/n/1808680
>>>/n/1808680
>>>/n/1808680

[Anonymous No.14830249]

>>14830236
I'm playing ksp now and just got that bug where a probe's orbit just keeps dropping without any cause, making it miss a rendezvous with the target planet. If that bug isn't fixed I'll lose my shit.
>>14830245
fuck off

[Anonymous No.14830255]

>>14830249
https://github.com/KSPModdingLibs/KSPCommunityFixes

You realize KSP isn't getting any more updates right?

[Anonymous No.14830258]

>>14830236
They showed some updates about the editor some time back. It looks like they gave it some love.
They also claimed they were solving the stuttery retarded physics engine too, but we'll have to see how that pans out.

[Anonymous No.14830259]

>>14830226
Will there ever be a realistic AAA spaceflight video game in my lifetime or I'm asking for too much?

[Anonymous No.14830262]

>>14830255
I meant in ksp2

[Anonymous No.14830264]

>>14830259
Pretty realistic airplane simulator computer games existed in 90s I bet a good space one could be made of it; make a petition list and pass it around the internet to show how many people would purchase a realistic spaceship simulator, and then get Elon musk and Jeff bezos and big simulator companies to fund it

[Anonymous No.14830267]

>>14830259
>realistic AAA spaceflight video game
>AAA
>realistic spaceflight
LMAO NO. if you want something like ksp but real scale and more autistic and better graphics then yeah it'll be made by a team of a dozen people.

[Anonymous No.14830268]

>>14830267
That's not a very big team.

[Anonymous No.14830269]

>>14830267
that’s just modded orbiter

[Anonymous No.14830271]

a realistic spaceflight game would be the most boring shit possible

[Anonymous No.14830274]

>>14830271
wrong. as long as you get to build arbitrary vehicles and have timewarp it'll literally be infinite fun like ksp.

[Anonymous No.14830277]

>>14830274
timewarp isn't realistic sorry

[Anonymous No.14830279]

>>14830274
KSP is also fun because of the goofy kerbals softening the blow of loss-of-crew events.

[Anonymous No.14830283]

RECIRCULATING MAGMATTER-CATALYZED Z-PINCH RAMJET

[Anonymous No.14830289]

NUCLEAR SALT WATER LAUNCH-ABORT SYSTEM

[Anonymous No.14830295]

>>14830258
that is good to hear.

[Anonymous No.14830294]

>>14830271
By realistic I meant something more akin to a sandbox spaceflight simulator rather than some Star Wars game in which physics are nonexistent and you are locked in some area in space where you can't do anything else except for shooting the bad guys. And also having decent graphics, Kerbin in unmodded KSP is a giant pixel for goodness' sake. And lastly replace the kerbals with humans, imagine the kino footage we could get of our games.
Also, it's not necessary for it to be super hard for the average player or basically require an engineering degree to be able to play it, if that's what you mean by boring. It could have several levels of difficulty, all the way up to something like Realism Overhaul in steroids.

[Anonymous No.14830314]

BIG ROCKET

[Anonymous No.14830389]

suborbital sample return mission

[Anonymous No.14830407]

Theia sample return mission

[Anonymous No.14830416]

CEERS-93316 sample return mission

[Anonymous No.14830417]

Returning samples is gay, establishing manned research bases outside of the Earth to analyze samples is cool. Only nerds want robots to dig for them.

[Anonymous No.14830418]

Double sample return mission where apollo samples are sent back to the lunar surface

[Anonymous No.14830420]

Infiltration mission where chinese and russian samples are stolen and sent back to the moon

[Anonymous No.14830438]

>tfw venus has nothing going for it so nobody will ever want to put space stations and shit there

[Anonymous No.14830439]

>>14830418
they have to go back
every gram sent earthside is a gram lost to loonies.

[Anonymous No.14830440]

>>14830249
that's caused by translating from the on-rails circular coordinates to the rectangular physics model, you solve it by just watching your probe in the tracking station instead of loading it in

[Anonymous No.14830445]

new thread, use it if you hate the collagefag(stampfag)
>>14829987
>>14829987
>>14829987

[Anonymous No.14830447]

>>14829902
>posting about how you like a coin a few times on twitter
>pyramid scheme

[Anonymous No.14830448]

FTL WILL BE REAL

[Anonymous No.14830449]

>>14830440
Good to know, hope it isn't an issue in KSP2
>>14830445
fuck off

[Anonymous No.14830450]

>>14830448
This but unironically.

[Anonymous No.14830451]

>>14830445
>collagefag(stampfag)
Wait holy shit this just clicked
The last two threads weren't made by the collagefag and the stampfag didn't instantly post in them like usual

[Anonymous No.14830455]

>>14830451
yeah but you shouldn't make threads before page 10

[Anonymous No.14830456]

>>14830455
says who?

[Anonymous No.14830459]

>>14830456
the moderation team, they'll fuck us up if you do

[Anonymous No.14830463]

The Expanse but real.

[Anonymous No.14830464]

>>14830459
I think they've abandoned us, if not outright turned on us.

[Anonymous No.14830469]

>>14830464
no this is just a pretty normal "the moderation team isn't paying attention to you" sort of atmosphere right now, when they pay attention you'll know and you'll wish they hadn't

[Anonymous No.14830471]

>>14830469
decentralized 4chan when?

[Anonymous No.14830472]

>>14830471
unfortunately, pedophiles

[Anonymous No.14830474]

>>14830456
Fucking lurk more. The rule exists to prevent idiots competing against each other by making threads early which on a slow board like /sci/ would mean multiple ongoing threads. The way to stop it is simple and doesn't require moderation staff, early threads simply won't be used. This thread was a one-off.

[Anonymous No.14830475]

>>14830451
pretty sure stampanon is not the /n/ schizo, and I’m almost certain stampanon is also finnanon

[Anonymous No.14830479]

>>14830475
I don't like finnanon/stampanon either, but they're not actual trash like the schizo

[Anonymous No.14830481]

>>14830474
>This thread was a one-off.
wrong

[Anonymous No.14830483]

>>14830479
stamp anon spams too much HOWEVER I happen to have printing and engraving autism and I follow a bunch of stamp accounts on twitter. Actually about 3 years ago I started a (digital) soviet stamp collection from pics I found on dvach and wikipedia and as soon as he started posting the actual physical stamps in high resolution I turned into patrick bateman with envy lmao

[Anonymous No.14830487]

>>14830475
That guy is just trying the start shit. The idea doesn't make any sense, if they were the same person he would legitimize the early thread by posting the archive in it.
>>14830479
What? He is literally the best /sfg/ poster and he goes out of his way not to attract too much attention to himself. Leave the man alone.
Captcha:
Twat2

[Anonymous No.14830495]

>>14830487
collagefag(stampfag(you)) hasn't made the last two threads

[Anonymous No.14830496]

>>14830487
he's a spamming nigger and I don't like him
>>14830483
I turn my autism towards violence mostly
fucking expensive hobby, I recommend black powder revolvers

[Anonymous No.14830497]

>>14830487
Its over, the jig is up, the genie is out of the bottle
Stampfag IS the schizo

[Anonymous No.14830533]

>>14830267
KSP2 should be developed by a bunch of qualified autists as a side hobby, as opposed to some SphereOfInfluence game devs larping about knowing orbital mechanics. That way their passion translates directly to the game, and it isn't dumbed down for people to stream "lmao exploding rockets" on Twitch as the FOTM game.

[Anonymous No.14830534]

>>14830533
I don't really think KSP 2 would ever get big on twitch, not even as a fotw/m thing. It's just very non-conducive to that type of audience.

[Anonymous No.14830542]

>>14830534
I remember when the full version first released, it got "big" on Youtube when let's players made videos and they couldn't understand how SRBs worked. Now it has gone back to being gatekept by spaceflight enthusiasts.

[Anonymous No.14830546]

>>14830456
fuck off

[Anonymous No.14830548]

>>14830474
This fag did the exact same shit on /toy/, it's targeted general ruining garbage. Any good mod would rangeban him for good measure.

[Anonymous No.14830557]

>>14830548
We just need to make a proper new general once this one hits page ten and ignore the other one. And if mods delete the real one then we chimp out.

[Anonymous No.14830561]

>85% of Globalstar’s capacity will be allocated to iPhones
https://twitter.com/DJSnM/status/1567729429908160513

lol wtf

[Anonymous No.14830576]

>>14830557
Stop fucking up generals you ass

[Anonymous No.14830577]

>>14830576
Okay, newfag op.

[Anonymous No.14830590]

>>14830576
We've restored decorum in the general this way in the past, and we'll continue to do it in the future

[Anonymous No.14830666]

>>14830561
SpaceX wins again.

[Anonymous No.14830710]

>>14829960
Elaborate.

[Anonymous No.14830739]

>>14830710
no voice for SOS SAT applel thing
only short messages and it may take 10 min to send

[Anonymous No.14830787]

wait apple is funding globalstar? they have a 3,080 satellite megaconstellation under development.
https://spacenews.com/globalstar-agrees-terms-with-global-customer-for-terrestrial-connectivity/

i thought they were just running with a few satellites but it looks like apple is helping them grow. looks like they're using rocketlab too, so rocketlab will have launches secured for a long time.

[Anonymous No.14830932]

>>14830590
>We've
>we'll
hello CSS

[Anonymous No.14830963]

>>14830418
>>14830439
Freemasons shoved all the Apollo samples up each others asses

[Anonymous No.14831006]

https://gizmodo.com/oneweb-loses-229-million-following-canceled-russian-la-1849506030

Oneweb lost $230 million dollar with the Russians taking their satellites lmao

[Anonymous No.14831018]

[Anonymous No.14831021]

More OLM upgrades, more plumbing, possible water deluge system?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYm-UBoF3gI

[Anonymous No.14831034]

>>14831021
Yup >>14828836

[Anonymous No.14831061]

>>14831006
And our government were retarded enough to try and bail them out

[Anonymous No.14831074]

So the design of HLS has changed once again. You can see that solar panels on the nosecone are missing, which implies that they're now most likely retractable.

[Anonymous No.14831108]

>>14831106
>>14831106
>>14831106
Proper new thread

[Anonymous No.14831210]

>>14831074
Solar panels won't be exposed during launch, they're way too sensitive for that

[Anonymous No.14831343]

>>14830576
Mods better clean up the extra spam thread then
>>14830577
retard