Breastfeeding Problem

[Anonymous No.14723368]

Jamie Oliver once encouraged all the women in the world to breastfeed their children, and was bombarded by all the women on social media, etc. One of the women said that she felt "inadequate" that she couldn't breastfeed her children and her feelings were hurt.
This got me wondering: how good is breastfeeding? Is it as healthy as Jamie Oliver says? Were the women right in saying that breastfeeding is wrong? I want a scientific answer here.

[Anonymous No.14723371]

>>14723368

All of the research shows breastfeeding to be far and away superior for the child's long-term health.

Wet nurses for women who struggle to do it naturally are viable.

[Anonymous No.14723374]

>>14723368
>One of the women said that she felt "inadequate" that she couldn't breastfeed her children and her feelings were hurt.
So? Why should someone's narcissistic inferiority complex matter?

[Anonymous No.14723376]

There should be a law that says any man can stop any woman they see in public and demand to be breastfed, regardless of whether they know that woman or whether or not she's lactating. If the woman is lactating then she shall receive monetary compensation for any milk the man has consumed at fair market price (using whole cow milk as the basis).

[Anonymous No.14723413]

thanks for the boobs sir, you did the needful

[Anonymous No.14723417]

>>14723368
Does this "problem" occur anywhere else than just in the USA?

[Anonymous No.14723425]

>>14723368
My grandma didn't breastfeed my father because she thought her breasts will sag earlier lmao

[Anonymous No.14723573]

>>14723368
Why the fuck would the natural way all mammals feed their young be wrong? Why would powered milk be better than what's worked for millions of years?

[Anonymous No.14723598]

>>14723573
Devil's advocate would use this
> and was bombarded by all the women on social media, etc.
to disprove this
> what's worked for millions of years

[Anonymous No.14723603]

>>14723368
Looks like a bad latch on that breastfeeding

[Anonymous No.14723811]

It feels sexually good for woman to breastfeed. That gives me a laugh.

[Anonymous No.14723819]

>>14723573
>Why the fuck would the natural way all mammals feed their young be wrong?
Because it's 2022, /pol/chud. We've advanced a bit as a species... or at least some of us did.

[Anonymous No.14723845]

>>14723371
>>14723573
Just because something is natural, doesn't make it better. To assume that natural = healthy is a logical fallacy. Human milk won't necessarily have all the nutrients, especially if the mother herself is malnourished. Formula is made by experts and scientists with exactly the right amount of everything that an infant or toddler needs. All the proper nutrients, vitamins, minerals, etc.

[Anonymous No.14723848]

>>14723845
Are you trying to outdo >>14723819 with a more subtle attempt?

[Anonymous No.14723861]

>>14723845
You're a retard and all the studies show breastfeeding is better.

[Anonymous No.14723875]

Why am I aroused by watching women breastfeed babies?

[Anonymous No.14723885]

>>14723368
Breastfeeding provides the right amount of calories to newborns. If the special case of low weight preterm or <2000g term baby shows up and the mom isnt producing enough milk, it can be suplementated with preterm formula but not substituted by it.

Breastmilk has IgA and some other shit that provides the baby with enough immunization to reduce rates of pneumonia, diarrhea and such as long as they are breastfed.

Women who feed the baby formula right from birth are at risk of giving the kid neonatal diarrhea and necrotizing enterocolitis, both from the lack of antibodies and the risk of preparing the formula the wrong way and giving the kid preparation they cannot digest in time.

Women who cannot breastfed have at their disposition human milk banks, wetnurses and so on, at the very least they are asked to provide breastmilk up to the 6 month of life when the nutritional requirements start to grow higher than what breastmilk provides. Only clear contraindications are pretty much Localized infection, chemo and radiotherapy. Even HIV if well managed should be able to breastfed. Women have no excuse.

[Anonymous No.14723904]

>>14723861
He is right in part. Formula is not ideal since nobody can emulate the biologic properties of breastmilk, but going by nutritional requirements it needs to be supplementated by the 6th month of life for lack of iron and vitamin D, the pharma jews add right the right amount of micronutrients to formula so they can market it as an ideal feed.

[Anonymous No.14723911]

>>14723845
what an embarassing post, being this arrogantly incorrect about something that's public knowledge in most parts of the world.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK215837/

[Anonymous No.14723919]

>>14723861
>all the studies show breastfeeding is better.

Sorry, the opinion of some incel on 4chan does not constitute a "study" and it does not disprove the fact that formula is just as valid as breast feading. Furthermore, if you actually took a minute to think about what you're saying, then you'd realize how foolish you sound. These companies invest a lot of money in researching and developing these products, and big companies don't like to waste money. They have doctors and scientists researching and developing the best products possible for a child's development. Pic related is directly from the Abbot website, the parent company of Similac.
See https://abbottnutrition.com/similac

You can find similar information from other brands like Enfamil or whatever. Most of them are researched and developed scientifically, unlike breast milk, which can be deficient in nutrients or contaminated with pathogens, if the mother has some sort of infection.

[Anonymous No.14723924]

>>14723919
>>14723861
Forgot the pic

[Anonymous No.14723930]

>>14723919
It will be missing things, or even at best those versions it have wil be synthetic and not fully bioavailable or will not allow the child to get the full benefit. Unless your mother is a genetic failure, breast feeding is better.

[Anonymous No.14723941]

>>14723919
source: a fucking merch page
woah anon!! u have great scientific analysis prowess!!

Retard

You can't substitute an expansive list of complex organic proteins like growth factors, metabolizing proteins, cell signalling proteins etc (ACTUAL etc)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK215837/

[Anonymous No.14723969]

>>14723919
Clearly you weren't breastfed that's why you turned out to be an 80 IQ brainlet.

[Anonymous No.14723978]

>all these posts and no one mentions immunity

Come the fuck on man.

[Anonymous No.14723984]

>>14723368
A cool factoid I found out is that the nutrients in the milk will change depending on the child’s needs, something the breast does I guess. Oh and formula doesn’t have good bacteria for the microbiome of the child that breast has.

[Anonymous No.14723995]

>>14723978
Natural immunity has been debunked, chud.

[Anonymous No.14724028]

>>14723845
>experts and scientists with exactly the right amount of everything that an infant or toddler needs
you cant add antibodies to formula, sure you can survive without those and its a great alternative as opposed to no milk but to say its equal just proves corn syrup has melted your fucking brain

[Anonymous No.14724200]

>>14723845
In this case it's fair to assume that natural is better as there is a plausible evolutionary story why breastmilk should be optimized for children.
Reproductive success needs to be tightly coupled for this to be reasonable. That's why I'm also very bearish on artificial wombs.

[Anonymous No.14724241]

>>14723368
modern breastmilk is pretty toxic

[Anonymous No.14724245]

As a girl that plans on having children I would only breastfeed my children
A lot of my non breastfedded friends have fucked up bones/teeth and had to have surgery

[Anonymous No.14724250]

>>14723368
Breastfeeding is ideal. Wet nurses are unsanitary as fuck and destroy the mother-infant bond though. Anyhow, it changes composition as the infant ages. If you have back to back pregnancies, it's not going to be viable to feed both.

[Anonymous No.14724265]

>>14723368
women will be genetically modified to be very physically large (6'5"+) and thick, with large breasts that produce great volumes of high quality milk. They will super-ovulate, releasing several eggs each cycle so when impregnated, they always gestate a litter of babies, which their large size can support.
Men will be made small (~3'10"), lean, and highly athletic, requiring only a few hundred calories per day.
All the men and women will be very intelligent.

The women described will have no problems breastfeeding even litters of children. We don't need some type of breastfeeding campaign we are going to genetically engineer humans to be optimized regardless

[Anonymous No.14724267]

>>14724265
forgot pic lol

[Anonymous No.14724293]

>>14723875
it means your body wants to ejaculate into a woman's vagina, fertilizing her eggs and impregnating her with your child.
probably.

[Anonymous No.14724314]

>>14723845
Imagine being this fucking retarded.
Show me which Formula has specific IGF-1, growth hormones, inmunoglobulins and a shitload of very specific proteins that aren't even perfectly understood yet.
If you don't breastfeed until 2 years (or even longer) you simply don't love your child.

[Anonymous No.14724341]

>>14723875
it means everything works and she's worth the effort to try and mate with

[Anonymous No.14724344]

>>14723919
>You can find similar information from other brands like Enfamil or whatever
You don't say, a company has said their product is better than anything else? Wow, I trust them already!

[Anonymous No.14724352]

>>14724245
Our mom had all 3 of us at home, no hospital or drugs, and none of us have any weird allergies or anything.

[Anonymous No.14725659]

>>14723368
It is one of the most natural things in the world. Many other mammals do it. Though it seems that many women easily develop a complex over doing it, especially if they cannot get it to work in the beginning. Having the first child can fuck them up mentally; they easily feel like failures and start resenting the mountain of advice that others give them. Others have selfish reasons for not doing it at all. It also seems many get put off by the sexual arousal they feel when nursing. It shouldn't be a surprise, as the nipples are an erogenous zone and almost always plays a part in foreplay and sex.

[Anonymous No.14725720]

>>14723978
Shouldn't that help develop the baby's immune system then?

[Anonymous No.14725739]

>>14723368
>how good is breastfeeding?
It's so good that mammals evolved an entire new set of glands to do precisely that, you fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.14725798]

>>14725659
>Many other mammals do it.
ALL mammals do it. it's in the definition of 'mammal'.

[Anonymous No.14725801]

>>14725798
All you do is confirm he's right. :^)

[Anonymous No.14725803]

>>14725801
'many' implies 'not all'.

[Anonymous No.14725806]

>'many' implies 'not all'.
The final and utter state.

[Anonymous No.14725809]

>>14725739
epicrine glands aka Epstein glands?

[Anonymous No.14725959]

>>14723845
>>14723924
>>14723978
>>14724028
if my hypothetical baby were unable to breastfeed, I would seek out a healthy breastfeeding woman to buy some from before I gave my baby early brainrot onions corn solids sugar juice goyslop. Adults don't subsist on onions and a multivitamin for a reason.

[Anonymous No.14725963]

>>14725959
forgot the filter works too well, I meant multivitamins and 50ylent

[Anonymous No.14726528]

>>14723919
>Pic related is directly from the Abbot website, the parent company of Similac.

Clearly, you're suffering retardation from not being breastfed as an infant.

Abbott knew about this issue and covered it up until they couldn't. These companies care more about profits than the health of babies.

https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2022/06/the-death-of-another-baby-linked-to-abbott-infant-formula-apparently-under-investigation/

[Anonymous No.14726644]

>>14723875
because it's sexy

[Anonymous No.14728132]

>>14723368
He should have doubled down and told them to find a wet nurse, since it would be the second best thing for their child.

[Anonymous No.14728139]

>>14723845
High fructose corn syrup isn't an essential fucking nutrient you stupid knuckle dragger.

[Anonymous No.14728305]

>>14723368
Surprisingly enough, cow's milk is about 2-3x more nutrient dense than human milk. For thousands of years mother's had no problem feeding copious amounts of cow's milk to their babies, but now mother's are scared of it, even with modern pasteurization.

There are two main problems with not breastfeeding:
(1) Milk is one of the most nutritious foods, and nature obviously intended babies to drink milk. Babies that don't drink milk will be fed goyslop with sneed oils, which is shown to cause autism and lack of oxytocin and smaller brain size - among numerous other horrible effects.

(2) There is some psychological factors about sucking on the mothers tits that bonds the baby to the mom, and bonds the mom to the baby. It releases oxytocin for the mom, and this causes her to be a much better mom, who is bonded to her kid. Kids who weren't breastfed are far more likely to resent their mothers as they grow older, and have strange autistic attitudes towards woman.
Sucking on tits is natures way of bonding children with mothers, and it's a huge mistake to avoid it.

[Anonymous No.14728323]

>>14723919
>These companies invest a lot of money in researching and developing these products, and big companies don't like to waste money.
Hahahaha
You a are either a shill or a retard.
The big companies which don't like to waste money have conveniently found that sneed oils are the healthiest thing to feed babies with.
Goybean oil inhibits oxytocin which causes autism and social problems.

[Anonymous No.14728387]

>>14723371
>All of the research shows breastfeeding to be far and away superior for the child's long-term health.
no they don't you fucking retard, all the studies show that in the SHORT TERM things are better for breastfed babies but in the long term things even out

[Anonymous No.14728445]

>>14723368
That's why we are tribal mammals and that's why we learn that the woman and the man must stimulate the boobs

[Anonymous No.14728675]

>>14728387
>all the studies show that in the SHORT TERM things are better for breastfed babies but in the long term things even out

Source?

[Anonymous No.14728719]

>>14723845
Guys we gotta work quick he's overdosing on corn syrup
He'll start talking about how great the UN is in mere hours at this rate

[Anonymous No.14728735]

>>14723368
>One of the women said that she felt "inadequate" that she couldn't breastfeed her children and her feelings were hurt.
There's obviously a difference between choosing not to breastfeed, and being unable to. That's too bad if women took it personally.

[Anonymous No.14728737]

>>14728387
There's immune training from breast milk that formula will never replace.

[Anonymous No.14729268]

>>14723368
god i wish that were me

[Anonymous No.14729597]

>>14729268
I too want to be a big breasted woman who can feed a baby.

[Anonymous No.14730102]

>>14723368
you VILL eat ze corn syrup
you VILL eat ze onions
you VILL eat ze oil
you VILL be braindead and you VILL be happi!

[Anonymous No.14730183]

Jamie Oliver is a fucking hippie and he goes by his feelings.

[Anonymous No.14730809]

>>14725963
onions

[Anonymous No.14730810]

>>14730102
Eh? You vill not have babby in the first place so this vill be kinda moot.

[Anonymous No.14730922]

>>14723368
There's a lot of research and evidence that shows breastfeeding is optimal for babies.
Just search into google scholar "breastfeeding benefits for baby" and you'll find a ton of science behind it.
Not breastfeeding your baby puts its immune system, metabolic health, and development at a disadvantage.
Fuck feelings. Facts are facts. They're just selfish bitches who can't take the extra 15 minutes to do it. Or get a wet nurse.

[Anonymous No.14732655]

>>14728719

the UN is pro-breastfeeding

https://www.un.org/en/chronicle/article/breastfeeding-mother-charge

what now schizo?

[Anonymous No.14732794]

>>14730922
>15 minutes
Does the male mind believe that infants operate on a convenience-based schedule? They want the teat when they want it. It's a warm comfort orb that they'll toy with as a pacifier just for the sake of it, not even feeding.
What communities have wet nurses available, and what sort of fees do you think they'll charge?

[Anonymous No.14732803]

>>14723845
When corporations design brestfeeding alternatives, they develope substances that are as cheap as possible and suitable for an average baby. Their optimal customer, an average baby, is a social construct and doesn't exist in nature. And the cheapest option is rarely the best.

[Anonymous No.14732865]

>>14724028
We can, it's just too expensive to do so.

[Anonymous No.14732925]

>>14723919
In your case, your mother should have smothered you with a plastic bag instead of either

[Anonymous No.14733042]

>>14732794
Breast milk pumps are a thing; particularly busy women can then pump the milk on a regular schedule, and have it available whenever the baby wants to be fed; this has the added advantage in that the father or other caretakers can feed the baby as well. WIC offices in many states will provide free breast pumps to low income women.

Most women can build up a surplus & freeze it; comes in real handy if they get sick or something, or want to donate to another woman who is having some sort of health issue.

[Anonymous No.14733069]

>>14733042
Building supply takes time. Having them available is a great step in the right direction. It's still not convenient, and you're likely going to have middle management breathibg down your neck after already being forced to work after 6 weeks postpartum.

[Anonymous No.14734370]

>>14730102
How in the fuck could anyone feed that shit to their baby?

[Anonymous No.14734380]

>>14734370
This kind of thing happens at the very intersection of adult infantilism, female narcissism and expert trust.

[Anonymous No.14734398]

>>14723368

[Anonymous No.14734406]

>>14723845
>Human milk won't necessarily have all the nutrients, especially if the mother herself is malnourished
It does, the body even takens omega 3 from the brain if the diet is lacking which causes postpartum depression

[Anonymous No.14734551]

>>14723845
>Formula is made by experts and scientists with exactly the right amount of everything that an infant or toddler needs.
No, formula is made by companies looking to profit from it and maximize said profits. Then they spend huge budgets in convincing people that breastfeeding is bad for you, and lobby at the UN to prevent breastfeeding education in poor countries because they want to sell formula to them. Ask yourself why are they acting like fucking jews.
>Human milk won't necessarily have all the nutrients
Yes it does. It even has antibodies and cool stuff that formula can't. Corporations don't like it because it's free and free.