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THERE MUST BE LIFE OUT THERE HOLY FUCK IMAGINE WHAT KIND OF EVOLUTION THEY WOULDVE GONE THROUGH OH GOD WHAT I WOULDN'T SACRIFICE TO SEE THESE CREATURES WITH MY OWN EYES

>> No.14650954

My fellow gentleman

>> No.14650978

>>14650878
I really wonder if such creatures would mostly evolve similarly to earth or go completely different ways we can't even begin to imagine

>> No.14651029

>>14650978
They would definitely evolve like we did if the size of their planet matches the size of Earth.
Gravity has been a consistent factor for evolution here on Earth. We haven't seen any organisms who evolved to live under lower or higher gravity. Other than that, we are pretty sure of what forms life can take.

>> No.14651030

>>14650978

I'd imagine that there are some universal evolutionary traits. Like wings for flying creatures, or fingers for intelligent species.

>> No.14651068

>>14650878
THE POWER OF TWO DECADES! BEHOLD.

>> No.14651091

>>14651030

yep

Convergent evolution

>> No.14651198
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>>14651029
>>14651030
>>14651091
So you're telling me...there's a chance?

>> No.14651214

>>14650878
Why do all space images look like shitty fake OpenGL 1.3 particle effects?

>> No.14651215

>>14651030
Or just a planet of mold that accumulates here and there

>> No.14651218

>>14651091
What if we are all evolving towards something? Like no matter what a species will eventually become intelligent and progress further? Like we are all going toward the same thing, some sort of God?

>> No.14651221
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>>14650878
that's a pretty galaxy. surely there's lots of life and space robots.

>> No.14651256

>>14651214
I don't understand this question. What should all space images look like to you?

>> No.14651267

>>14651256
>What should all space images look like to you?
I don't know? Less like flat paper cutouts hanging from thin strings with a dark cloth for a background. It's like they're going out of their way to tell us what we all already know: space is fake.

>> No.14651271

>>14651267
>Space is fake
and Earth is flat. Copernicus was a fucking jew.

>> No.14651295

>>14650878
Webb also found water looking at a planet's atmosphere already so it seems increasingly likely that life is all around.

>> No.14651315
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14651315

I used to live there. Kinda boring galaxy, I prefer the Milky Way.

t. ayy

>> No.14651318

>>14651295
SAUCE??

>> No.14651320

>>14651318
https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-reveals-webb-telescope-s-first-images-of-unseen-universe

>> No.14651386

>>14650878
Imagine all the other psychedelics created on other planets. All the crazy drugs we'll never know about that could make us feel ways no human has ever felt.

>> No.14651701

>>14650878
sorry, but it's equally possible that there is no life out there :)

>> No.14651724

>>14651386
That would require extremely convergent evolution.

>> No.14651727

>>14650978
Well if you study astrology you would know they would be completely different and not act anything like us

>> No.14651733

>>14651701
Based on what ya fag? Ya chittering chatting ape.

>> No.14651744

>>14651733
based on the zero evidence that there's any other life out there :)

>> No.14651757

>>14651744
Really dude all this life created on earth and you go durrrr no other life out there besides us. We had fucking dinosaurs here ffs. There is all kinds of other life out there.

>> No.14651769

>>14651757
proof?

>> No.14651771

>>14651757
life has only happened once, there is no way to say that it happened more than once, it doesn't matter how big the universe is, you're just using statistics wrong :)

>> No.14651785

>>14651771
What? Complex life got wiped out on earth many times so no not just once there is water clouds floating around in space. We have seen them. So stop being dumb.

>> No.14651792

>>14651785
>Complex life got wiped out on earth many times
no it didn't, all current life is related to this thing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_universal_common_ancestor

>> No.14651797

>>14651792
>The LUCA is not thought to be the first life on Earth, but rather the latest that is ancestral to all current existing life.

>> No.14651802

>>14651218
>What if we are all evolving towards something
Then the foundations of evolutionary biology as we know it are wrong

>> No.14651810

>>14651797
and all the life that is proven to exist is related to LUCA :)

>> No.14651812

>>14651802
Duh astrology proves its very fucking wrong.

>> No.14651849

>>14651810
>LUCA
What is LUCA?

>> No.14651897

>>14651849
>>14651792

>> No.14651948

>>14651897
Thank you.

>> No.14651953

>>14651812
>astrology

>> No.14652043

>>14651221
What's really crazy is that that entire galaxy consists of just a bit of fog around your mom.

>> No.14652058

>>14651771
Haha all this would be clarified if only you read a real life grown up book :) I strongly recommend Schopenhauer to clear up any and all confusion on this subject ;) Then you can be smarmy as well as correct!! <3 Since as it stands you're just a retarded douche.

>> No.14652063

>>14652058
there doesn't seem to be anything that needs to be clarified at this point since you've made no claims of your own :)

>> No.14652084

>>14652063
You can very easily assume that what I'm doing is refuting your own claims. But you didn't, because you're retarded, and need this basic exchange broken down and explained.

>> No.14652093

These images are fake as fuck.

>> No.14652098

>>14652084
you're not refuting shit, you're just repeating the same fallacious arguments behind the fermi paradox

>wooowie, there's so many stars, SURELY that means that life must be everywhere! it's a statistical certainty!
>even though i have a complete lack of the data necessary to make statistical claims on this topic

you're just scientifically illiterate :)

>> No.14652109

>>14652098
......... I never said a single thing about the Fermi Paradox, the only thing I said is to read Schopenhauer.
But at this point it's clear you're actually well beyond anyone's help and I won't be responding again.

>> No.14652115

>>14652109
the very first reply in this chain was about it, my apologies for your very short memory :)

>> No.14652122

>>14652109
I would read Schop but I heard I have to start with Kant and I can't bring myself to working through it all lol

>> No.14652132

Imagine if FTL travel is actually impossible in this universe. How fucked up that would be

>> No.14652137

I lost all interest when I saw that bitch in photoshop deleting stars

>> No.14652146

>>14652122
It's mainly meant you should start with Kant before World as Will and Representation. But I would strongly recommend Schopenhauer's Essays and Aphorisms to start with, which is pretty self contained. It will blow your mind.

>> No.14652154

>>14652137
Link pls

>> No.14652157

>>14652132
I think everything, absolutely everything is possible, it's just a question of advanced enough technology.

>> No.14652180

>>14651315
based ayyy

>> No.14652295

>>14651315
>tfw I'm so high that for a brief moment I actually took this post seriously
wtf is wrong with me?

>> No.14652358

>>14650978
somewhere out there is the stuff of absolute nightmares, but there will also be life that's just incredibly basic; all depending on the conditions

>> No.14652385

>>14650878
>GOD WHAT I WOULDN'T SACRIFICE TO SEE THESE CREATURES WITH MY OWN EYES
and then what? their life and existence is probably equally as pointless as ours

>> No.14652418

>>14652385
Then we kill them and take their planets in the name of Earth.

>> No.14652479

>>14652418
Based

>> No.14652674

>>14652418
This but we take their females for us

>> No.14652731

>>14650878
it would be unnerving if there wasn't

>> No.14652756

It's official, world's most expensive production for a wallpaper

>> No.14653286

>>14650878
We have to make it there first
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvehj0KvzK8

>> No.14653361

>>14651030
Depending on the environment, the function (and thus, form) of the species could be totally different:
Like non-porous skin for gaseous planets, or a bigger head where gravity is less because there would be no excess weight on neck, etc

>> No.14653396 [DELETED] 

>>14650878
I'm fully remoralized, guys.
It's a welcome relief to witness such an extraordinarily detailed IR image of a snippet of the universe that is still so incomprehensibly FILLED with massive galaxies and innumerable star and gravity formations.
The escapism of outer space is unbeatable during such times of historically high bidenflation and geopolitical upheaval.

>> No.14653407

Watch were literally it.
The real barrier is time.

>> No.14653411

>>14651701
Weird flex.

>> No.14653440

>>14651030
>>14651091
>I'm illiterate but trust me when I say I know what's going on
You have to go back.
>>>/plebbit/

>> No.14653451

>>14653411
the truth is not a flex, it's just the truth

>> No.14653464

>>14653440
Serious question for you, isn't it believed that water is 100% necessary to form "life" due to its role in forming dna?

>> No.14653582

>>14653464
why would alien life even have the same type of dna as earth life, what kind of brainlet take is that

>> No.14653639

>>14653582
>He didn't get my point that DNA seemingly can't form without water
Are transformers real?

>> No.14653643

>>14653639
you first have to answer why dna would even need to form

>> No.14653652

>>14651733
There either is life out there, or no life out there. Fifty-fifty. Equal odds.

>> No.14653684

>>14651267
Go outside of your city dumbass

>> No.14653791

>>14653643
>t. retard
Life needs a solvent

>> No.14653808

>>14651030
we don't have enough examples of sapient life to know what the convergent traits are.

my #1 guess is bipedalism. all sapient life will be bipedal.

>> No.14653821

>>14653808
What if they lived under higher gravity and required multiple legs for locomotion? Kinda like a centaur

>> No.14653847

Is it possible to determine the exact furthest Galaxy in the image?

In the high res, we can zoom in to a limit and see the faintest dots, has it been spotted yet the very very faintest?

What is required to see more beyond that, slower shutter speed?

It's interesting like, there are galaxies beyond where we stop seeing them, likely, light did emit and travel this way.... Oh, is that where expansion theory enters, hmm

Or, there actually is no more galaxies beyond the faintest ones °o°

>> No.14653851

>>14650878
Me, I’m a simple man. I’d rather just be a space trucker, hauling my space cargo between space planets.

>> No.14653854

>>14651295
Not if they drowned in that water

>> No.14653949

>>14653791
DNA isn't used as a solvent, moron

there are also solvents besides water

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14653980

Where there are aliens I will fuck them
Where there are plants I will smoke them
Mine is the way of the human

>> No.14653993 [DELETED] 

>>14653396
>bidenification
found the /pol/chud, he's a good president.

>> No.14654019

>>14653847
you should be looking for the deepest red one instead

>> No.14654153

>>14650878
What causes the spherical distortion in center of pic?

>> No.14654157

>>14653396
>thinks presidents can cause or fix inflation
Dumb fucker

>> No.14654171

>>14654153
wtf do you think it is a square lens?

>> No.14654252

why spiral?

>> No.14654319

>>14650878
>invent interstellar space travel
>travel to new planet
>see building implying that they are an intelligent species
>they're literally the same as Humans on earth
>They speak variants of earth language

How would you react?

>> No.14654332

>>14652157
>I think everything, absolutely everything is possible
Magic? Gotta find the universe where I can cast fireball.

>> No.14654345

ahem FUCK CEPHALIZATION

>> No.14654393

>>14650878
>WHAT I WOULDN'T SACRIFICE
reading a book?

>> No.14654431
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14654431

What's happening there? The lensing looks almost like its in a cylinder shape. Are my eyes playing tricks on me?

>> No.14654515

Why do redditors believe that the universe is teeming with life when all the evidence is stacked against such a notion?

>> No.14654525

>>14654515
>all the evidence is stacked against such a notion?
Have you personally visited all trillions of planets in the observable universe you massive retard?

>> No.14654762

>>14651030
Photosynthesis and photoreceptors/eyes would also be high on the list for any place where there is high-energy light coming from its parent star, our early ancestors had photoreceptors to move to and deeper below the surface depending on the day cycle.

>> No.14654852

>>14654515
Even if there was life in the universe, so what? It's not like it's physically possible to ever communicate/reach them. And even if we detect any signs of life, that's gonna be way from the past and at this point they're probably extinct anyway.

>> No.14654886

There is no life out there, we are alone.

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>>14654431
The universe has a cylindrical form, anon. Pic releated. [Spoiler] :^) [/Spoiler]

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>>14654515
muh star trek/star wars, life exist, is almost impossible for mankind to be alone in the universe, only if some ayy lmaos cleaned the entire universe and left us alone, anyway if you find a civilization, because of the distance, most likely they will reach a tier 3 civilization or die by the time you found someone with a telescope.

>> No.14655929

>>14651849
LUCAt these nuts

>> No.14656406

>>14653949
>DNA isn't used as a solvent
>retard in charge of reading comprehension

>other solvents
Yes

>> No.14656433

>>14656406
yeah, i keep asking you why you think DNA is needed, your answer is "muh solvent"

you still haven't answered why you think you need DNA as opposed to some other arbitrary way of storing information chemically

>> No.14656454

>>14650878
>spent all that money on the James Web telescope just to get pictures that are no better than the Hubble telescope

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>>14654431
Real Question though: Why is there a frogface?

>> No.14656472

>>14653808
Why would bipedalism be necessary? They could have more than 4 limbs or could be like elephants that have additional "limbs" (like trunks) they can use to manipulate stuff

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14656485

you geeks really let reddit brainwash you into not liking scientific discoveries? jesus christ

>> No.14656487

>Inb4 all life in those galaxies is dead by now
Speed of life yo

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>>14656465
I see an impish grin.

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>>14656465
He's out there, waiting for us.

>> No.14656570

>>14656485
All of 4chan has been overrun by election redditors and jewish shills, we can't have anything nice anymore

>> No.14656572

I think at this rate we can say that either intelligent life or utility maximizers are impossible.

There could be life, but if there is, they must not be able to build poorly aligned AI, because it would show. It would already be darkening whole sections of universe if its operating at efficiency for even a few hundred million years. Times that by number of possible civilizations and we should see something WAY larger than any void.

So one or the other has to go. I would say there are ayys but for some unknown reason you can't build a utility maximizer.

>> No.14656962

>>14654431
The Galaxy cluster in the middle that's bright white, is warping space. The light is bending around it. That's the lensing.

>> No.14656996

>>14650878
I'm not sure what thought is more depressing, the fact that we will never see these alien lifeforms if they exist, or that we may be the only planet in the universe with any "life".
That's why even tho I like space I try not too think too much about it, it always leads to depressive and existential thoughts.

>> No.14657008

>>14656996
For me, it's the fact that one day, there will be no life in the universe at all, and that there's literally nothing that can be done to stop it; at best a hardy civilization might be able to delay the inevitable.

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>>14650978
on earth we are carbon-based lifeforms, over there they could be silicon-based lifeforms
or maybe the opposite of carbon-based life forms is carbon-cringe lifeforms

>> No.14657026

>>14651727
wizard here. very interesting point

>> No.14657031

>>14653821
wouldn't they just evolve stronger biped legs to compensate? I guess you might be referring to drastically stronger gravity :p

>> No.14657034

>>14651849
it's God

>> No.14657065

>>14652295
It's over. You will be posting on /x/ very soon.

>> No.14657105

>>14657015
Man, Bad Dragon are coming up with some wicked designs!