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American Century Edition

previous thread: >>14591276

>> No.14594816
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>American Century

>> No.14594817

>Elon Muscles

>> No.14594826
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>>14594726
>Except NTP or NEP wouldn't do that.

A 450 day EMVE opposition round trip enabled by NTP or NEP would be significantly less dosage than a 750+ day EME conjunction or opposition using chemical propulsion.

>> No.14594830

ESA has somehow gotten even worse at launch streams. That wasn't even worth tuning in.

>> No.14594831

>>14594802
>American Century
cheeky to do so in the middle of an Ariane 5 launch

>> No.14594832

>>14594802
needs an anime version

>> No.14594833

>>14594830
ESA != Europe

>> No.14594854

>>14594833
T. Seething yuroid

>> No.14594855

>>14594816
Insolent gweilo dogs will soon learn their place.

>> No.14594858

>>14594833
ESA = mostly France, with a bit of Germany and Italy thrown in for diversity's sake.

>> No.14594865

>>14594833
It's also not a real space agency.

>> No.14594870
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JIMO was a wild fuckin’ mission

>36 tons for the vehicle alone
>Used three Delta IV Heavy launches to place extra transfer stages in LEO for docking
> 200 kW nuclear reactor
>Would orbit Callisto, Ganymede, and even Europa
>Would’ve carried a small lander for Europa
Totally insane.

>> No.14594872

>>14594833
correct
ARCA = Europe

>> No.14594876

Tower segment moving today

>> No.14594877
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>>14594816
Why do bugs always post that edited picture?

>> No.14594894
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14594894

Thoughts on spinlaunch?

>> No.14594895
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The dream is alive...

>> No.14594898
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>>14594802
>American century edition

Yes

>> No.14594899

>>14594894
its shit and Hullo should be ashamed of himself for shilling it

>> No.14594918

>>14594877
their species is very insecure
being perpetual failures and jokes for centuries tends to do that

>> No.14594923

>>14594894
I don't think they'll achieve what they've set out to do but I really hope they follow it through as far as they can because I find the concept pretty funny

>> No.14594925
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>>14594895
OH NO

>> No.14594933
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When will we get out of the dark ages of rocketry? Doesn't it seem like single use rockets are incredibly wastefull?

>> No.14594950
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>> No.14594952
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>>14594810
>Gatekeeping power sources with the same tired fallacies against intermittent power and the cost of electricity in places where literally everything is expensive while ignoring actual metrics e.g. LCOE
Deranged.
>Raptor and traditional chemical rockets will do 99% of what we need
That's because 99% of near future requirements are related to the Earth, Moon and Mars, however most of the solar system is largely inaccessible with chemical due to the high dV requirement outside flyby missions and essentially inaccessible with nuclear due to the inherently high cost. Luckily for everyone you have no sway in the industry otherwise your nuclear power only autism would hurt the advancement of spaceflight and space colonization. Cheap power is essential.
>Electric propulsion is a waste of time outside of niche station keeping uses.
Tell that to SpaceX/Starlink or all of the probes which now use electric propulsion. You want high thrust burns when you're stuck deep within a gravity well such as LEO, otherwise the Oberth effect gains are small and you're decreasing the total dV because specific impulse is directly proportional to thrust, provided you're throwing reaction mass from the spacecraft.

>> No.14594954
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These don't look like real people

>> No.14594958

>>14594954
Because they aren't.

>> No.14594960

>>14594950
Based

>> No.14594966
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>>14594925
>:^(

>> No.14594969

https://twitter.com/SpcPlcyOnline/status/1539749574029582336

>NASA Admin Bill Nelson has appointed new members of the NASA Advisory Council, including his former Senate compatriot, Kay Bailey Hutchison.
>The two of them led the 2010 NASA Authorization Act that directed NASA to build SLS and allowed the Obama Admin to proceed w/cmrcl crew.

Pork pork porks

>> No.14594972

>>14594950
https://b-ok.cc/book/21818287/6227fe
without the watermark

>> No.14594978

>>14594826
Radiation is a meme but once again I remind you that NASA isn't seriously considering a EMVE transfer because the delta-v required to do this jumps considerably each window and it's high even for nuclear so the spacecraft would probably have less shielding and an low payload. Regardless the lowest radiation dose would probably be a 4 month conjunction transit with the rest of the time spent in an regolith covered structure.

>> No.14594980

>>14594894
They're just taking the idea of using a linear accelerator as a first stage (which has been around since forever) and compacting it down into a giant fidget spinner. It's more practical in that you don't need to run twenty kilometers of track up the side of Mt McKinley but less practical in terms of the lateral g-forces the payload needs to be built for. The places were it would really shine are suborbital; either launching payloads that would normally end up on more expensive sounding rockets or as artillery for flinging small nuclear payloads.

>> No.14595006
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June 25 0600 EDT - Rocket Lab - Electron: Mahia Peninsula, New Zealand. CAPSTONE to lunar halo orbit, for NASA.
June 25 2043 EDT - SpaceX - Falcon 9: LC-39A, FL. Starlink 4-21. Drone ship recovery.
June 28 1704 EDT - SpaceX - Falcon 9: SLC-40, FL. SES 22 communications satellite for US television and data service.
June 29 2000 EDT - ABL Space Systems - RS1: Pad 3C, Alaska. Debut flight, carrying two satellites for L2 Aerospace.
June 29 2000 EDT - Landspace: ZhuQue-2: Jiaquan, CH. Debut flight. First Chinese private liquid rocket. First Chinese methalox rocket.
June 29 2000 EDT - ULA - Atlas 5: SLC-41, FL. USSF 12, experimental missile warning satellite for the Space Force.
June 30 0100 EDT - Virgin Orbit - LauncherOne: Mojave, CA. "Straight Up", the fifth flight dropped from a Boeing 747.
June 30 - ISRO - SSLV: Sriharikota, India. Small Satellite Launch Vehicle's first orbital test flight.
June - CAS Space - Zhongke-1A: Site 95, Jiuquan, CH. Six unknown payloads.
June - Galactic Energy - Ceres-1: Site 95, Jiuquan, CH. Two observation satellites.
June - CASC - Jielong-1: Site 95, Jiuquan, CH. Two private industry Earth imaging satellites.
July 7 0713 EDT - Arianespace - Vega C: French Guiana. Debut flight, LARES-2 magnetic sensing satellite.
July - Relativity - Terran 1: LC-16, FL. “Good Luck, Have Fun” debut flight.
Sept 20 - SpaceX - Falcon Heavy: LC-39A, FL. NASA probe to explore metallic asteroid Psyche. Landing zone 1/2 booster recovery.
Q3 - Firefly - Alpha: CA. Small satellite rideshare mission, second flight.
Q3 - SpaceX - Starship: Starbase, TX. Ship 24/Booster 7 debut flight.
Q3/Q4 - NASA - SLS: LC-39B, FL. Artemis 1, uncrewed Orion capsule to lunar orbit and return to earth.
Q4 - SpaceX - Falcon 9: LC-39A, FL. Polaris Dawn missions on Crew Dragon.

>> No.14595015

>>14594980
making a liquid fuelled rocket strong enough to withstand 10 kilogee for minutes yet light enough to be a useful vehicle is preposterous

>> No.14595035

>>14594980
>as artillery for flinging small nuclear payloads.
Moron.

>> No.14595036

>>14595015
It's hard but it's not THAT hard. A small, pressure-fed hypergolic engine has an very small number of parts for a rocket engine. It's just a few valves and those can take some pretty massive g-loads.

It's just that they're trying to overcome this huge, bizarre engineering problem just so they can replicate what Rocket Lab already does on a normal launch day.

>> No.14595037

>>14595006
there also might be a Long March 2D launch in a few hours. But who really knows? And we won't know the payload until after success.

>> No.14595041

>>14594950
Thanks for the free book

>> No.14595042

>>14594894
I'm surprised they made it this far, and at this point maturing their system seems remotely possible. It's absolutely retarded though to build this silly ground infrastructure to launch a rocket that might be slightly smaller and not even single stage. Plus, how would you launch to different inclinations?

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>>14595047

>> No.14595055
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>>14595006
ABL this month?
You led me down a rabbit hole though, and I found that ABL redid their website with new pictures and a new users guide. The only neat tidbit I saw in it is that they want to fly from the Astra-cursed pad at the Cape at some point.

>> No.14595057

>>14595035
If you don't care about putting on a second stage or getting to orbit, a spin launch system could be used to fling a payload about as far as it could go on an medium range ballistic missile. Spin launch could be useful for throwing sounding rocket payloads. Sounding rockets are just small ballistic missiles intended to go mostly up instead of sideways. So, spin launch could be useful as long range artillery.

It's a dumb idea, but it's also the sort of thing that someone in DARPA would throw a few million dollars at "to investigate capabilities." Spin launch is a fairly dumb idea in search of an even dumber customer.

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How do i deal with SEU in electronics like a rpi or arduinos. Is aluminum 5052 enough shielding for a small LEO cubesat?

>> No.14595061

>>14594894
i see it more as just preparation for launching shit from the moon where it makes more sense

>> No.14595069

>>14595060
To really answer that you're going to need to know how much you're planning to be shielding against and how long you want or need the electronics to survive. Al 5052 is fine, but how much of it are we taking about here? Foil or centimeters?

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>>14595036
the fuel tanks also have sustain those loads too, that means thick walls and internal bracing. lets compare the spinlaunch rocket with the Sprint ABM, the only high gee rocket with comparable mass:
>100g acceleration where the force is longitudinal rather than transverse as in spinlaunch
>solid rocket rather than liquid fuelled

>> No.14595074

>>14595053
Proof that former NASA deputy admin understands the politics behind appointing Bill Nelson to NASA admin. Its a way to put the fox in charge of SpaceX.

>> No.14595075

>>14594894
The GSE structure will scrap large parts of itself on the tiniest timing error.
The rocket, upon release from the spin-arm, will be traveling ~7333 feet/sec according to their site. The airlock section of the full-scale installation looks ~150 feet long. This gives us a ~20 millisecond traversal time through the airlock. In that 20 milliseconds, the hold-down clamps for the rocket need to release, the vacuum-side airlock hatch needs to open, then close again behind the rocket, then the atmosphere-side needs to open before the rocket hits it.
So just some timing-related failure modes:

>The clamps fail or their timing is off
Most of the facility is scrapped
>Hatch #1 fails to open on time
Most of the facility is scrapped
>Hatch #1 fails to close on time
Potential (severe) damage to the spin arm from sudden atmospheric resistance, possibly facility-scrapping if it disintegrates. At best, launch schedule paused while they bring the chamber back to vacuum.
>Hatch #2 fails to open on time
The airlock section, at minimum, is scrapped.

This isn't getting into any of the other potential problems with actual in-practice cost-effectiveness, or market restrictions due to specialized payload requirements. Spinlaunch on Earth is retarded.
Hilariously, their stated 7333 ft/s figure is nearly Lunar escape velocity. A scaled-down spin arm assembly could be a good way to yeet bundles of titanium ingots into LLO if you had a little cold-gas thruster harness on each one to account for error.

>> No.14595083
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>>14595061
just build a linear mass driver; the g loads are reasonable and you don't have to deal with recoil forces when you release the payload

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>>14595069
Im planing to cut this sheets to make the chasis and shielding as well. those are 0.125 inches thick, and cost about $46 each. I was the guy who wanted to build and launch one months ago. Its my first one, so i want it to transmit info like speed, temperature, etc. Probably to last a couple of months minimum. I read LEO radiation is not that strong so i dont think i need that much of protection, but i wonder what should i do if for example the raspi freezes or shuts down due to a unavoidable SEU.
Thanks for the help btw

>> No.14595092

>>14595075
Question, do you think it would be a good idea to build one on for example the moon. to launch payload to the iss or any space station.

>> No.14595093

>>14595074
She's just salty she wasn't tapped. She would have done the exact same thing.

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>>14595092
a linear accelerator would be fine, rotor-yeeting is goofy

>> No.14595104

>>14595093
Bill Nelson specifically disinvited her during the Biden inauguration meeting

>> No.14595110

>>14595104
And?

>> No.14595113
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14595113

> le 'levelheaded centrist' is back
when will neurotypicals learn?

>> No.14595117

>>14595110
Because its not "She would have done the exact same thing" as she was the one going against the grain the entire time. Now one of the biggest SpaceX critic leads NASA.

>> No.14595120

>>14595087
If you have the mass budget, duplicate your electronics. There's good reasons why a lot of satellites have triple redundant systems handling things by majority vote.

That said, as long as you're not yeeting it into an environment like the van allen belts and you're only interested in a few months of lifespan I wouldn't see radiation being an overwhelming issue. Radiation probably will kill it at some point since you're not using official space-rated electronics, but you just use that knowledge to estimate what the overall lifespan will probably be and plan the mission around that.

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the second tower segment is supposedly going to 39A tonight

>> No.14595129

>>14595110
>>14595093
What an idiot. I doubt you even know who she is

>> No.14595131

>>14595129
There's a book from her, the agitator isn't interested.

>> No.14595133

>>14595123
I know tower stacking =\= ready for launch but I’ll be damned this thing is going to be ready soon

>> No.14595134

>>14595133
they still need a tank farm and the launch table

>> No.14595135

>>14595133
As soon as people begin to see the construction happening in real time as SpaceX launches their Falcon9 week by week, they'll see where SpaceX is heading. Each step is a concrete step towards the final goal.

>> No.14595136

>>14595100
One disadvantage of the linear accelerator is material requirements. A rotary accelerator capable of putting ~100 kg into LLO could probably have all its components delivered by a handful of cargo Starships.
It's an early-days solution, quickly rendered obsolete, but potentially a valuable part of initial infrastructure building.

>> No.14595143

>>14595123
>only the second segment
spacex is declining

>> No.14595147

>>14595143
More like SpaceX is OVER and FINIHSED! :DD

>> No.14595167

>>14595123
wow this is a great view. i'm sure this is already zoomed way in but with a great lens you could get some boca chica style tank/towerwatching in

>> No.14595172

>>14595120
Thats a good idea. ill integrate 2 more rpi zero so if one fails the other two can keep working or reboot it if possible. same as the arduino components. Any common failures i need to keep and eye on? Thanks

>> No.14595175
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14595175

Why are there so many SpaceX clickbait videos?

>> No.14595176

>>14595172
>>14595060
Just throw a phone in it

>> No.14595180

>>14595175
look at the views, probably even ai generated videos.

>> No.14595182

>>14595175
My friend, scammers and clickbaiters have been following in SpaceX and Elon's wake since the early days. There are loads of channels named "SpaceX" on Youtube and even more accounts named Elon Musk on Twitter, usually shilling crypto

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LIVE

https://youtu.be/1zzkTY_uVZY

>> No.14595187

>>14595180
You want to see algorithmically generated content, take a look at https://www.eclipseaviation.com/, this SEO shit absolutely poisons DDG (Bing) when I'm searching for space stuff

>> No.14595189

>>14595175
Bot generated to take advantage of clicks and advertisement money. Youtube incentivizes this type of behavior.

>> No.14595193

>>14595184
>Why do we care about tower segments
lmao this guy is a rocketspotter and knows it

>> No.14595203

>>14595184
Who is the spic tranny?

>> No.14595212

>>14595184
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5VfzHq6xeY
Better shots, look at it go.

>> No.14595214

>>14595175
I'd click that

>> No.14595215
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Moving pretty fast

>> No.14595218

>>14595215
The torque to get that thing to move from a stop is probably not small

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>>14595215

>> No.14595221
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>>14595175
I see yours and raise you these.

>> No.14595225
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>takes good pic
>only uploads a tiny version of it

>> No.14595226

>They didn't shut down the roads
>Traffic just drives by like normal

>> No.14595228
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>>14595221
>>14595175
has anyone checked these out? obviously they are making serious money off of these if they keep spamming them.

>> No.14595229

>>14595226
>The virgin road closures in Boca Chica vs the CHAD KSC open roads

>> No.14595232

>>14594816
China wont exist in 5 to 10 years

>> No.14595235
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Coming soon to a VAB near you

>> No.14595236

>>14595228
You don't want to go down the youtube AI rabbit hole.

Here's a taste: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvyqWg054Uw
Read the comments. Check out the channels of these commenters.

>> No.14595238

>>14595228
braphog

>> No.14595240

>>14595228
Not those, but i clicked one of the "BTC-ETH merge", because it sounded too retarded to even imagine the content. turned out to be a give me money and i return the double scam, with a looped elon musk and that ARK gilf conference.

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>>14595228

>> No.14595245

>>14595241
The best part imo is the green glow they borrowed from the nuclear rockets in Armageddon

>> No.14595247
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>>14595225
Upscaled with RealSR

>> No.14595246

>>14595236
everytime i read those comments in those weird videos i think is some kind of secret keywords to share cp or really weird content

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>von braun future proofing still working for new projects
Based.

>> No.14595253
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>>14595235

>> No.14595255
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Does anyone know how they planned to solve what was bound to be monumental combustion instability issues with the Sea Dragon's fuckhuge first stage engine?

>> No.14595259

>>14595255
Pintle injectors and alot of iterative development

>> No.14595264

>>14595255
Tom Mueller said it could be done but tbc Sea Dragon was fucking impossible.

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>>14595253

>> No.14595269

>>14595255
why do they put the RCS thrusters out on those right angled pipes?

>> No.14595278

>>14594894
Retarded.

rockets dont reach max v in the atmsophere....

theres a reason giant guns arent used to launch stuff into space.

also, the acceleration in that ring required to reach space-- would destroy pretty much anything.

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>>14595269
Those are Vernier Thrusters anon.....

>> No.14595296

>>14595241
solarbros...

>> No.14595299

>>14595241
Could have had this in the 60s if it wasnt for uppity niggers and green peace...

>> No.14595300

SLS spotted

>> No.14595303

>>14595269
>For All Mankind VFX artist

>> No.14595306

>>14595187
>poisons DDG (bing)
The cryptofags were poisoning the twitter replies section for years, until Musk decided to buy it. I think they're doing the same with youtube by poisoning the youtube with fake channels to create fake videos that could be used to fool retards into claiming "spacex fraud."

>> No.14595307

SLS just disappeared

>> No.14595312

>>14595269
those are engineering section lines
there will be separate drawings with a cross section view at that position

>> No.14595321

>>14595300
>>14595307
I'd much rather see a pile of 4 billion dollars.

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>>14595300
>>14595307

>> No.14595328

>>14595269
(You)

>> No.14595330

>>14595324
expendable car, built across all 50 states, 400 million dollars each tire

>> No.14595342

>>14595307
The good ending

>> No.14595353

the industry moves so slowly we're all gonna be dead by the time we have a space colony

>> No.14595355

china just launched another rocket, not sure what the payload is

>> No.14595364

>>14595232
please elaborate

>> No.14595373

>>14595355
It's always spysats

Only one of their car companies is crazy enough to launch their own GPS

>> No.14595377

>>14595373
How good is the resolution of those spysats? is it better than the airplane ones?

>> No.14595380

>>14595321
don't worry, we'll print that pile. and give it to Israel

>> No.14595385

>>14595377
They claim 10cm, but who knows

>> No.14595391

>>14595377
Their satellites feature a 10ft lens with newly developed mechanical shutter that is the fastest and most robust in the history of spysats. Not only can it make images at 15 frames per second, but it is also rated for 300,000 actuations. The detector format employs a mosaic of 189 16-megapixel silicon detectors arranged on 21 "rafts" to provide a total of about 3.2 gigapixels. From 400km it can image objects down to 1cm using multispectral image layering.

In short, the Chinese might just be able to take a picture of your dick from space. Only just.

>> No.14595458
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>>14594978
NASA's current plans for putting feet on Mars is a EMVE transfer in 2039, it requires a delta V that chemical propulsion cannot provide which is why NASA is looking at NTP or a NEP/chemical hybrid.

>> No.14595464

>>14595391
In that case it definitely is a spysat because there’s no way they’re getting enough resolution to see Chinese dicks

>> No.14595465

>>14595391
at 15 actuations per second you'd reach the 300,000 cycle rated lifetime in 5.5 hours. is this just typical chink bugman retardation and they can't write coherent english, are they lying and one or more of the figures is much lower than they claim, or is this sat literally only capable of ~6 hours of video surveilance

if I had to guess I'd say it can probably do 15 frames per minute but either the insects were embarrassed to admit it or they literally don't understand the distinction between seconds and minutes

>> No.14595476

>>14595458
Is that a motherfuckin forklift?

An astronaut is about to be forklift certified, god help us

>> No.14595488
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yeah it was 3 spy sats

>> No.14595489

>>14595488
They do mission patches too? Baller

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>>14595458
>NASA's current plans for putting feet on Mars is a EMVE transfer in 2039
Give me a real source like the Mars DRA, you've only moved the goal posts to that after we discussed Mars transfers far too many times while you performed mental gymnastics trying to come up with a reason why opposition transfers aren't complete fucking trash despite that with the lower delta-v required for a conjunction transfer you could literally encase the transfer vehicle in lead and still land a larger payload on Mars. Do you think most informed spaceflight enthusiasts can't tell exactly what NASA is doing when they pretend a human Mars mission is only possible with some far off propulsion method?
>it requires a delta V that chemical propulsion cannot provide
Once again it's dependent on the transfer window, some years chemical could do EMVE, other years including 2039 it couldn't realistically be done by any propulsion they're considering.

>> No.14595514

>>14595508
>EMVE opposition is by far the fastest
>requires a delta V of almost 9 km/s

>> No.14595523
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>>14595508
>Give me a real source like the Mars DRA
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/20210017131

>> No.14595527

>>14595523
>Venus flyby
Pulling out all the stops I see

>> No.14595531

>>14595527
What do you think EMVE means?

>> No.14595533

>>14595523
Absolute trash

>> No.14595557

>>14595523
That is a random study on NEP, not design reference architecture, you nutcase.

>> No.14595574

>>14594802
Assume you are a mission director for nasa. You are given a payload capacity of 1 kilogram for an orbit of proxima centauri that arrives in 2070. What would you do?

>> No.14595615

>>14595574
As in, I have to figure out how to get a kilogram there by 2070 or I have to figure out what the payload will be?

>> No.14595619

>>14595574
Whats the point
You won't get a signal back anyway

>> No.14595622

>>14595574
considering i could never put any kind of laser or receiver powerful enough to communicate with earth with such a weight limit, it's essentially just an extremely small time capsule of my choosing, which would be incredibly unlikely to ever be found a la russel's teapot.
there's honestly nothing of use i could send in that scenario. maybe an extremely spread-out, lightweight and highly reflective 1kg thing with my name on it

>> No.14595626

Reminder that the dsn is failing and needs upgrades and repairs badly
Spacex will need their own dsn for any mars mission

>> No.14595628

>>14595626
Lucky thing they have the ability to deploy one pretty trivially.

>> No.14595630

>>14595628
How?
You require high power ground stations

>> No.14595637

>>14595626
DSN for hire sounds like a pretty good business plan

>> No.14595639

>>14595557
>NASA Glenn Research Center
>random

Sounds like cope.

>> No.14595642

>>14595630
incorrect lol

>> No.14595657

>>14595630
yeah, if you're nasa. anything that isnt big and needlessly expensive gets shitcanned

>> No.14595666

>>14595628
it's not that easy in DSNry, you need to keep using the same one for at least 50 more years, that's how it's always been done

>> No.14595668

The absolute state, unironically embarrassing
>Currently, the DSN can receive up to 4 spacecraft signals at the same time, or MSPA-4.
>However, apertures cannot currently be shared for uplink. When two or more high-power carriers are used simultaneously, very high order intermodulation products fall in the receiver bands, causing interference to the much (25 orders of magnitude) weaker received signals.
>Therefore, only one spacecraft at a time can get an uplink, though up to 4 can be received.

>> No.14595670

>>14595639
It's by COMPASS Lab which is tasked with coming up mission concepts in a short two week period. If you think there is even a 1% chance of that mission happening you're unbelievably stupid, ignoring that the premise of reduced radiation is false and that SpaceX will beat them to Mars, in 2036 there's an EMVE transit that could be done by chemical and it was plainly ignored so they could create that monstrosity.

https://www1.grc.nasa.gov/facilities/compass-lab/

>> No.14595676

>>14595630
two options:
1. Orion spysat style deploying umbrella dish 100 m radio telescope (one above Earth one above Mars)
2. LASERS

>> No.14595688

>>14595668
that'll be 100 trillion blus dip

>> No.14595689

>>14595668
Yeah, New Horizons had to fistfight Cassini in the parking lot for DSN time

brutal

>> No.14595696
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>>14595670
The 2039 EMVE opposition plan did not originate from that Compass study. Anon asked for something "real", which the study is part of NASA figuring out how they are going to go about putting feet on Mars then.

NASA still hasn't decided if they will use an NTP or a NEP transfer vehicle.

>in 2036 there's an EMVE transit that could be done by chemical

Not in 450 days.

>> No.14595710

>>14595508
>you've only moved the goal posts

Isn't that what you have been doing to avoid why NASA wants the shortest possible mission duration?

>> No.14595728

>>14595696
>>14595710
You don't seem to understand that NASA has dozens if not hundreds of different studies on the subject, the design reference architecture is the most legitimate but that doesn't mean they actually intend on doing it, otherwise humans would have already been to Mars.
>Not in 450 days.
The study you are referencing is 760 days. I can't tell if you're trolling me or if you're off your medication.
>Isn't that what you have been doing to avoid why NASA wants the shortest possible mission duration?
Not at all, I've already shown why lower mission time doesn't necessarily mean reduced radiation because the dose received once on Mars is less than half of the dose during received during transit. I've also explained why the argument makes no sense because it doesn't adjust for the extra shielding you could take when the round trip delta-v is cut down to 1/3rd.

>> No.14595746

>>14595728
>You don't seem to understand that NASA has dozens if not hundreds of different studies on the subject

Which have coalesced around either a NTP or NEP craft and a EMVE opposition transfer.

>The study you are referencing

A single example of the dozens if not hundreds of studies on the subject.

>it doesn't adjust for the extra shielding you could take

If extra shielding in transit and on Mar's surface negates excess radiation exposure then the primary variable is still mission duration.

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>>14595746
You're absolutely full of shit, the DRA 5.0 acknowledges that radiation exposure would be less on the long stay mission despite that the short stay mission they considered is 110 days shorter than the one you're referencing.
>Reddit spacing

>> No.14595815

>>14594894
>theres a reason giant guns arent used to launch stuff into space.
because Israel assassinated Gerald Bull

>> No.14595825

>>14595815
Gerald Bull ideas weren't workable in Earth's gravity and atmosphere
plus, he was asking for it at that point

>> No.14595849
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new spaceplane just dropped

>> No.14595862

>>14595849
>dropped
missed orbit?

>> No.14595885

>>14594898
>future is American
>50% will never (hopefully) exist
>one company practically went under 2 years ago
>two lack engines
>two are half European
>4 are spacepl*nes

>> No.14595888

>>14595862
no, I didn't pay attention and stayed too long in the atmosphere/got too high before getting fast enough and reverted to runway and then I reverted to the hangar to rework it and I'm not happy with it
as you can tell by the forward canard I'm having weight balance issues

>> No.14595891

>>14594898
>the future is cgi

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I hate center of mass/center of pressure

>> No.14595897

>>14595896
what about the center of pleasure? ;)

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.

>> No.14595917

>>14595911
some negative iq retards will unironically believe this, it's sad

>> No.14595921

>>14595891
>>14595885
Ignore the collagefag.

>> No.14595923
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>>14594802
First stamps have arrived, there should be ~115 in total.

>> No.14595936

>>14595896
Haven't played this since they nerfed space planes. Is the atmosphere still soupy?

>> No.14595938

>>14595936
unironically get good, spaceplanes are still easy as fuck
the shittiest plane I've managed to do it with used a panther and two terriers

>> No.14595946

>>14594802
As long as the radiation belt around the Earth exists, sending humans out of Earth's orbit doesn't seem feasible without adequate shielding on future ships. I still don't see how Apollo could've mapped it and gone past it with 60s tech.

>> No.14595955

>>14595946
>muh van Allen belt
Retard

>> No.14595961

>>14595946
>he trusts the scientists when they say van allen belts exist but not when they say you can get past them
I never got that logic

>> No.14595973

>>14595938
I'm not gonna use nu-ksp soi-engines for me its the scram jet and nuclear

>> No.14595989

europe trying to kill space AGAIN
https://twitter.com/Capoglou/status/1539896302930219008
>Yesterday at the #SWFSummit22 HRH Prince Charles gave an inspiring talk about the value of safeguarding space sustainability and mentioned work around an AstraCarta. Today UK’s science minister @GeorgeFreemanMP said that the “Astra Carta” has been inspired by the Magna Carta

>> No.14595997

>>14595989
Lmao what a tosser no one cares. This dumb cunt is next in line too. Better than fucking Andrew I guess

>> No.14596002
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>> No.14596003
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mfw NASA proposes yet another battlestar galactica for Mars missions & /sfg/ anons fall for it

>> No.14596007

>>14595989
I searched for "Astra Carta" and found nothing. If this is about space junk near Earth, then it's just another very profitable business opportunity.
If not, then space is like a buffet. Once you get there, there is plenty for everyone. Just don't be a huge fucking dick.

>> No.14596009

>>14595989
>>14595997
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-announces-package-of-new-measures-to-drive-space-sustainability
https://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/topics/long-term-sustainability-of-outer-space-activities.html
>A ‘Wild West’ space race without effective regulation risks a growing crisis of debris in space, adding to the existing threat from 400 redundant satellites and a million pieces of debris.
ITS OVER

>> No.14596013

>>14596009
UK is only saying this because they’re the most behind 1st world country in terms of space, period.

>> No.14596016

>>14596013
only country to cancel their launch program

>> No.14596020

>>14596013
it doesn't matter
your cowboy elon is going to get reigned in

>> No.14596039

>>14596020
Here's your 5 yuan.

>> No.14596045
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>>14595938
they made it easier.

>> No.14596054

>>14596045
the future of starship

>> No.14596067

5th wdr cancelled
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1539932376599601155
SLS is going to beat starship to orbit

>> No.14596101

>>14596067
SLS' launch window opens on August 23rd.

>> No.14596132

Anybody know when ESA will release the pictures from the Mercury flyby that happened today?

>> No.14596135
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>>14596132
later today

>> No.14596142

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg25333780-100-we-mustnt-let-the-billionaire-rocket-men-decide-what-happens-in-space/

>> No.14596154

>>14596142
>We
Fuck you, after everything that followed the Nixon administration, I want the billionaires to decide what happens in space.

>> No.14596155 [DELETED] 

>>14596142
"Only popular opinion, as carefully controlled by journalists, can be allowed to determine policy"
t. journalists

>> No.14596161

>>14595574
Buy 1 flight from 150 ton capacity Starship, use that extra capacity margin for higher d/V to launch a smaller(100kg?) staged launcher from a commercial provider, use that to launch your 1kg small sat payload.

So effectively a 3 staged launch platform. Total costing probably no more than $60-$70M for the rocket launch.

>> No.14596163
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>>14596142
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chanda_Prescod-Weinstein
why are astroonomers like this

>> No.14596164

>>14596161
>current commercial rockets
>making it to proxima centauri

>> No.14596165

>>14596163
>early life
every time

>> No.14596171
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>>14596163
>>14596165
>She is of Barbadian descent on her mother's side and Russian-Jewish and Ukrainian-Jewish descent on her father's side.

>> No.14596183

>>14596067
I GOT GO FEVER
LETS GOOOOOOOOO

>> No.14596191
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So I was wondering how tailed individuals (pic related) would wear spacesuits. Do they try and fit it inside a normal human suit? Would they have an extra tail compartment? What about different shapes and sizes of tails?

>> No.14596192

>>14596191
WHY

>> No.14596193

>>14596183
its going to implode on the pad

>> No.14596197

>>14596191
unless they had scales they would need to wear a pressure wrap or something around the tail

>> No.14596198

>>14596192
If I'm going to draw something it has to be scientifically accurate dammit.

>> No.14596202

>>14596191
do you know what is under the fur anon?
look at a shaved bear for your answer

>> No.14596204

>>14596142
>says Chanda Prescod-Weinstein
name more obnoxious person

>> No.14596235

>>14596142
>Right now, very few of us have a say in how humans get to space or what we do there.
this is rich coming off the FAA ordering SpaceX to write a military history book report before they can start launching rockets out of texas

>> No.14596238

>>14596142
Do we have an Early Life on this?

>> No.14596243

>>14596009
I don't know why the British are so pissy about this. They aren't going to space.

>> No.14596252

>>14596243
>They aren't going to space.
That's why. They want to feel like they're still relevant.

>> No.14596255
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The tower rises.

>> No.14596259
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>>14596255
Four more segments are ready for transport and lift.

>> No.14596261

>>14596238
> needing to look early life on wikipedia.
> not already knowing it by looking the link alone.

>> No.14596266

>>14596261
not giving them clicks

>> No.14596333

>>14596009
Everything is the wild west when you're too poor and stupid to leave your tiny island

>> No.14596354

>>14596255
How will they get Starships there?

>> No.14596355
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BepiColombo Mercury flyby

>> No.14596360
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>>14596354
Like this.

>> No.14596368

>>14596355
fake picture

>> No.14596374

>>14596354
>>14596360
Isn't that illegal? I thought it was physically impossible to move Starships because its a common sense skeptical approach to think that you can just move rockets that easily. Lets be real. Starship may some day move about, but for now, its a drawing.

>> No.14596384

>>14596354
you know like in the movies where they fold a piece of paper and stick a pencil through it?
like that

>> No.14596391

>>14596374
This is a bot

>> No.14596392

>>14596391
This is a schizo.

>> No.14596394

>>14596374
SLS may someday launch. It's eternally on the test stand now. Starship is real. You've seen down at Boca Chica. We've built the core stage. We have all the engines done, ready to be put on the launch stand. I don't see any launch for SLS, except that they're going to take three incomplete wet dress rehearsals and put them together and try to launch that. It's not that easy in rocketry.

>> No.14596399

>>14595251
How ?

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>>14596384

>> No.14596413

>>14596354
suborbital hops

>> No.14596416
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> oldspace couldn't figure out how to fix the shuttle
lmao they're so dumb

>> No.14596432

>>14596416
The shuttle was badly designed after the DoD started giving retarded requirements, there was no going back from that

>> No.14596435

>>14596416
I always wonder how strong the struts have to be, including the attachments, even when they carried it around on a plane. From a distance they don't seem that thick, but up close they're a lot bigger.

>> No.14596440

how long until the third tower segment is sent to 39A?

>> No.14596450

>>14596440
If i tell you what the fuck are you gonna do with the information

>> No.14596452

>>14596235
spacex is enjoined to make 75 posts on /sfg/ detailing the importance of the FAA's role in regulating access to space and protecting natural wildlife in the boca chica region

>> No.14596465

>>14596450
Set up a blockade

>> No.14596507
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14596507

>>14596465
settle down Nute Gunray

>> No.14596511

new from our nigga https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9AYvtuQ95I
also b7 rollout https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciDsg3KN6Uw

>> No.14596532

>>14596511
They are driving TOO FAST!! SLOW DOWN!!

>> No.14596539
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>> No.14596540
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>> No.14596544

>>14596539
>didn't even put hydraulic pack in the chines also
embarrassing

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>>14596540
amateurs

>> No.14596551
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14596551

Why does he wear the mask?

>> No.14596552

>>14596511
Great analysis from CSI.

B7 /possible/ lift with chopsticks. They got the stabalizing system now.

>> No.14596553

Booster 7 has Raptor 2 engines right ?

>> No.14596555

>>14596553
yup

>> No.14596561
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>>14596547
Fake & gay like the Russian space effort. Photo was probably taken in a studio, Kazakhstan doesn't have giant brown lizards and if they did they would run from a train.

>> No.14596563

>>14594830
what happened to the stream?
i missed it

>> No.14596573

>>14596563
Most of the stream was just some idiots talking to each other in a studio. They showed a single static camera view of the liftoff, so the rocket flew out of view in like 3 seconds, then they sat on that view for a while and then cut to the studio, then they showed a tiny screen within the studio at booster separation but kept the studio itself taking up most of the space while the idiots rambled about whatever. The rest was just a very small view of a CGI representation while the studio continued to take up most of the screen.

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>>14596142
Musk should just fund a dozen mid size cheap space telescopes to shut every one up.

>> No.14596581

>>14596578
He'll still get criticized for that. Billionaires shouldn't own our telescopes, just fund NASA, urf problems, etc etc. Boing and Locksneed will be laughing in the background.

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Highly recommend reading Lori Garver's book, I'm only about 2 hours in and there's already been some good drama.

>Boeing exec called saying planetary society should stop supporting the president's (Bush senior's) space exploration initiative or they would retract donations
>NASA admin said they knew station freedom was behind schedule and make up technical details for why later

>> No.14596607

23 quick disconnect connections on the booster alone.
delightfully counterintuitive.

>> No.14596614

>>14596561
lmao

>> No.14596616
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OH N-

>> No.14596617

>>14596616
The damn nitrogen got out!

>> No.14596618

>>14596617
expendable nitrogen

>> No.14596620
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14596620

It's over.

>> No.14596622

>>14596618
Couldn't that shit kill someone? Frost injury or choking or some shit.

>> No.14596624

>>14596620
>white cones
for what purpose

>> No.14596625

>>14596620
They are there to finally arrest Tom Mueller

>> No.14596627

>>14596622
yeah that's why the pad was clear

>> No.14596628
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They're going pretty fast.

>> No.14596629

>>14596627
Not of beetles

>> No.14596630

>>14596620
>I think the dress rehearsals for starship will not be as problematic as SLS
But there were no problems with SLS. It's proceeding as planned.

>> No.14596633
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>>14596629
Elon was laughing with glee

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>>14596628

>> No.14596639
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>>14596635
The angle

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>>14596625
Mueller quit and he founded Impulse Space. They will probably buy rideshare spots on SpaceX launches and use chemical tugs to do last mile delivery.

>> No.14596643

>>14596635
>>14596639
embarrassing... but let's stop talking about SLS for a minute, those shots look fantastic

>> No.14596644
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>>14596639

>> No.14596647

>>14596644
5 different ship variants in that one shot. Holy crap

>> No.14596654

>>14596641
Also they're hiring, Astrafag should apply so he can finally work at a real company.

https://www.impulsespace.com/careers

>> No.14596665

Are things finally happening again?

>> No.14596682

>>14596665
Not sure, they are recycling tower stacking arc.

>> No.14596685

>>14596665
Chop stick moving now.

It maybe lifted with chopstick

>> No.14596692

Chopsticks lifting soon !

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>>14596692
>>14596685

>> No.14596702

Holy fuck what is happening. SpaceX is going too fast.

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I don't if it's just perspective, but Booster 7 seems slightly taller

>> No.14596707
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Don't forget about the Megumin rocket, guys.

>> No.14596710

>>14596702
HOLY, A SPMT JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE

>> No.14596712

>>14596703
Prolly nothing but he did say Booster 4 is half a ring short.

>>14596707
In the time they’ve waited after the last WDR they probably could have done it again

>> No.14596713

>>14596707
>Megumin rocket
Kek

>> No.14596714

>>14596707
>Megumin rocket
As in exxxplosion?

>> No.14596716

>>14596707
HAPPPPPPPPENIGNIGNETRGUINTUNGUETNGUIN4TGBN54G

>> No.14596718

>>14596702
If everything goes ok , they need to perform a full wdr (maybe first a dry dress rehersal and then a wdr) , then 1 engine static fire , 3 engine , 8 (interior ring) and then groups of 4 engines in the outer ring .

When all of that happens , Ship 24 needs to perform the same thing : ddr , wdr , 3 engine and then full 6 engine .

After all of that full stack , fuel both ships , see if they maintain pressure/stability etc and then FINALLY , they are prepared for the launch process

End of August is very promising for a launch

>> No.14596721

>>14596707
Sept/Oct launch then

>> No.14596725

If Starship flies first will NASA drop the “most powerful rocket ever” rhetoric for SLS?

>> No.14596731

>>14596725
No. They'll call it "NASA's most powerful rocket ever" instead, just like they are doing now, and with that title the message is the same for most normies

>> No.14596732

They are saying that thay have enough info from the WDR (even if they didnt really finished it ) , and proceed with the launch schedule for August .

Are they cutting corners to fly as soon as possible ?

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>>14596707

>> No.14596739

>>14596735
lol

>> No.14596741

>>14596732
gotta get to orbit before Starship

>> No.14596742

>>14596732
>yfw Launch Computer triggers an abort on launch day at T-12

>> No.14596747

>She says one of the biggest impediments to reform was Bill Nelson, the former U.S. senator from Florida who represented Kennedy Space Center and now runs NASA.

>And Nelson, she says, who along with then-Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison “forced on us” the SLS, the taxpayer-funded mega-moon rocket that is years behind schedule, billions over cost and slated to finally make its first uncrewed flight this summer.

>> No.14596748

>>14596732
NASA is both reckless and slow with SLS

>> No.14596750

>NASA will launch SLS in late August/September

>Starship will launch Starship in late July
>Starship will launch 2nd Starship in late August
>Starship will launch 3rd Starship in late September
>Starship will launch 4th Starship in late Oct
>Starship will launch 5th Starship in late Nov


IMAGINE LMAO

>> No.14596755

>>14596742
It will happen for suuure . At least 1 abort and then a delay of 2 weeks for another attempt

>> No.14596758

https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-22-105212.pdf

GAO report on NASA projects

>> No.14596760
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https://www.space.com/satellites-falling-off-sky-solar-weather
>Wild solar weather is causing satellites to plummet from orbit. It's only going to get worse.
>According to Jonathan McDowell, a space debris expert at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, the positive effect can already be observed, as fragments produced by the November 2021 Russian anti-satellite missile test are now coming down much faster than before.
kesslerbros..? I thought the science was on our side..? what does this mean..

>> No.14596759

>>14596750
>Starship will launch Starship in late July
I remember when Starship was launching in July of 2021. Maybe it will happen this year.

>> No.14596767

>>14596759
Soon as they received the first license, they will do 4 more this year

>> No.14596768

>>14596755
>2 weeks

LOL, thats not good enough for NASA EGS overtime pay or whatever it is that entices them to delay as much as possible

2 weeks on the pad, 2 weeks back to VAB, 2 weeks for roll out, 2 more weeks on the pad for "checks", and then 2+ weeks more till the correct launch opportunity

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Booster 7 @ launch pad now. Ready to be lifted up very soon.

>> No.14596778

IT'S MOVING TOWARDS THE THUBFTGH5Y

>> No.14596785

>>14596750
Way too early for monthly launches. I'd say there will be at least two, maybe three month gap between the first and second launch. At least in an optimistic scenario.

>> No.14596786

>>14596758
Dragon XL gateway delivery delayed indefinitely due to no money going into it from NASA. They've only been given $14M from congress for a "study" to find out risks.

>> No.14596787

>>14596732
It's a pretty bizarre situation desu. Imagine if starship had never come along after all this time. And now they are "neck and neck".

>> No.14596800

NASA had enough confidence STS-1 would go well enough to fly people, but people think Starship’s first orbital flight will go badly. Why?

>> No.14596802

https://twitter.com/anton_brevde/status/1539658721412149250

New Space 1.0 bubble is about to pop soon.

>> No.14596803

>>14596758
>As of July 2021, the DSL project delayed plans to grant SpaceX with authority to proceed for the first Gateway Logistics Services mission from October 2020 to late 2023.
what a joke

>> No.14596812

>>14596800
STS-1 nearly ends in fatality . They were very lucky .

>> No.14596816

https://spacenews.com/house-bill-trims-nasa-budget-proposal/

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1539980646407454720

>Of course the House budget wants NASA to spend MORE money on SLS and Orion, and LESS on the lunar lander.
>Actual exploration is a secondary consideration.
Congress is still angry at SpaceX.

>> No.14596818

>>14596803
Not much about HLS.
>In April 2021, NASA announced the selection of SpaceX to develop the Artemis III lunar lander. The firm-fixed-price contract award value is $2.89 billion. After the award, Blue Origin and Dynetics filed bid protests with GAO, which GAO denied in July 2021.2 Subsequently, in August 2021, Blue Origin filed a complaint with the U.S. Court of Federal Claims, which the court dismissed in November 2021.3 NASA officials reported that a 7-month delay for the HLS contributed to delaying the Artemis III lunar-landing mission from 2024 to no earlier than 2025. The program is reviewing initial schedules from SpaceX, and expects to establish cost and schedule baselines in August 2022.
>Moving the Artemis III mission to no earlier than 2025 provides the program with additional time to work on the lunar lander, but the time frame is still aggressive. We previously found that NASA’s planned pace to develop the HLS was months faster than the average for other spaceflight programs, and a lander is inherently complex because it supports human spaceflight.4 According to NASA, SpaceX’s approach is technically challenging, in part, due to the number of events necessary to execute the mission, but there are mitigating factors. For example, these events will occur in Earth’s orbit, as opposed to lunar orbit where an unexpected event could create a higher risk to loss of mission.

>> No.14596821

>>14596816
The worse is this part

>the bill specified funding for the Space Launch System, Orion and Exploration Ground Systems at or slightly above the request.
>That means the cut would be absorbed by other exploration programs, such as the lunar Gateway and Human Landing System
The bill is designed to cannabalize money going to SpaceX and give it to Boeing

>> No.14596825

>>14596758
>Next Major Project Event: Launch (spring
2022, under review)

>> No.14596826

Booster 7 moving towards the chopsticks

>> No.14596829

What are the chances something goes wrong with Artemis 1?

>> No.14596832

>>14596654
My dad has every requirement for the avionics-technician one and more. But we are Colombian so idk if they accept him.

>> No.14596834

>>14596816
>>14596821
sls used to be a jobs program, now its a "keep money out of spacex's hands" program

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>>14596803
>twitter
https://nitter.net/anton_brevde/status/1539658721412149250

>> No.14596839

>>14596821
>>14596816
The same thing happened with Commercial Crew Program where the funding was delayed by few years and then cannabalized to fund SLS program.

They're playing the same shit. Except this time, SpaceX will go to Moon/Mars with or without congressional funding.

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>>14596835

>> No.14596847

>Starship lands crew on the moon before Artemis
What now?

>> No.14596849
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>>14596845

>> No.14596850

>>14596829
>What are the chances something goes wrong and Artemis 1 explodes mid air ?
Very little . They made millions of tests, they probably quadruple checked

> What are the chances something goes wrong on the way to the moon ?
Starliner related problems . Software bugs , not as dangerous as what Starliner had but significant . In the end all will go fairly well

The conclusion is that it wont be a flawless mission .

>> No.14596851

>>14596847
Congress will push FAA to review Starship for human safety reasons and delay it indefinitely until they wait for Blue Origin to catch up.

>> No.14596853

>>14596850
I could see it being completed but still having a fuckton of issues

>> No.14596855

>>14596847
We will point and laugh at the effects of government corruption and corporate greed again, as always

>> No.14596856

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ted-talks-daily/id160904630?i=1000567512470

Starship talk, not sure the content of it, but its a new talk by someone

>> No.14596858

>>14596851
>Launch crew on dragon
What now?

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>> No.14596861

>>14596858
ULA sniper

>> No.14596864

>>14596858
AMOS-6 II

>> No.14596868

>>14596735
Based
God i hope it happens

>> No.14596869

>>14596858
SHUT IT DOWN

>> No.14596871

>>14596785
Elon already said monthly launches
They want to use up the 5 launches for this year

>> No.14596872

>>14596714
Mega moon rocket
Me-gu-min rocket

But also >>14596735

>> No.14596877

>>14596802
retard_holding_microphone_for_other_retard_on_twitter.bmp

>> No.14596878

>>14596871
monthly launches this year are optimistic ? Of course , but , we need to remember that next year they need to start with refueling techniques . They will probably need 1 year to perfect .

>> No.14596879

>>14596850
>They made millions of tests, they probably quadruple checked
>probably
kek
And they'll re-define the "anomaly" results as the baseline, just like they did with ambient temperature for SRB operation back in the '80s.
The chances are still "not enough". This bullshit will go unchecked until it becomes a BIG problem.

>> No.14596881

HAPPENING

Booster aligning inside the chopstick

>> No.14596884

>>14596878
There's no showstopper if they get the flight license and it doesn't RUD on the launch pad.

>> No.14596887
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>> No.14596889

>>14596829
Well every single time they have tested sls its had a failure of some sort
The single time they tested orion they had to completely redesign it
So its probably fine

>> No.14596890

>>14596851
>Supreme Court issues ruling that Congress and FAA have no jurisdiction beyond LEO
>Passengers ride up on Falcon+Dragon, then board Starships juuust outside of earther boundaries

>> No.14596891

>>14596858
NTSB grounds dragon for some meme reason

>> No.14596894

>>14596891
>Launches only take place within Texas or within Florida
>Supreme Court rules there's therefore no interstate commerce, overturns Wickard v. Filburn, strips NTSB and FAA of authority

>> No.14596898

>>14596894
Doesn't work like that sweetie
The space force will gain control and cancel starship

>> No.14596899

Its wiggling !!

>> No.14596902
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terran on the pad

>> No.14596905

>>14596898
The well being of Starship is in Space Force best interest . It makes albsolutly no sense to "cancel it"

>> No.14596908
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>>14596849

>> No.14596910

>>14596905
Space force nor the dod cares
Thats just your delusion

>> No.14596911

>>14596902
Reminds me of Falcon 9.

>> No.14596913
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>>14596800
>>14596835
the chart, better annotated

>> No.14596915

>>14596905
The sense is that Elon Musk is bad for Joe Biden and Joe Biden leads Space Force and DoD.

>> No.14596921

>>14596910
>>14596915
"Lets cancel the only advantage we have in the space market that it will probably put us miles ahead of everyone"

Even if they dislike Elon (of course they do) , they cant let pass this opportunity .

>> No.14596924

>>14596921
Biden admin has set its eyes on Tesla and have been trying to cancel Tesla.

>Lets cancel the only advantage we have in the transitioning towards a sustainable and cleaner car industry, as well as bring in hundreds of thousands of jobs back to America, innovation, and leadership in manufacturing that it will put us back in the game

>> No.14596926
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At least this

>> No.14596930

>>14596921
China can knock them out with a seven figure bribe. Hell, maybe just six figures and some blackmail.

Don't assume the government is a system that works or pursues the country's best interests. That's naive.

>> No.14596934
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14596934

Soon.

>> No.14596943

>>14596934
How much stuff would starship explosion on pad destroy?

>> No.14596945

>>14596930
A great reminder of how detached from reality /sfg/ is, especially concerning politics.

>> No.14596946
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>>14596902
Are they finally going to stop being relatively close to space?

>> No.14596947

>>14596943
Take SN9 plunge into the ground explosion and multiply by 20

>> No.14596948

>>14596943
many beetles

>> No.14596951

>>14596910
Yeah I've recently been getting redpilled on this. Military leadership is very cucked.

>> No.14596958

People, im still scare by the : "We need to land the booster exactly in the middle of the chopsticks , if we are 1m away , kaboom "

I mean , not even Falcon after 100 landings is 100% pinpoint accurate

>> No.14596965

>>14596958
Relax

>> No.14596966

>>14596958
You should be scared by starship catching and not booster.

>> No.14596967

>>14596958
yeah its retarded

>> No.14596973

>>14596889
kek

>> No.14596975

>>14596958
It will be solved withing two weeks

>> No.14596977

>>14596975
Is that after the tower gets destroyed?

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>>14596977

>> No.14596980

Sirs, when is hop?

>> No.14596981

>>14596980
When the tiles stop falling off

>> No.14596983

>>14596747
Strange how Bill "Ballast" Nelson has begun to act as though he is tackling the issues at NASA by talking smack about cost+ contracts when in reality he was the architect of this slump.

>> No.14596984

>>14596943
Ocelots will be extinct.

>> No.14596986

>>14596983
Politicians...

>> No.14596989

>>14596984
There are no ocelot near Starbase.

>> No.14596990

>>14596983
Could be in anticipation of the book.

He must have surely read the book

>> No.14596994

>>14596989
oh god oh no

>> No.14596997

>>14596990
yup, has to be

>> No.14596999 [DELETED] 

>>14596707
i consider myself a weeb troll but i still don't know what this means

>> No.14597002

>>14596999
Megumin Rocket = Mega Moon Rocket

>> No.14597004

>>14597002
yeah i realized too late that it had already been answered in the replies and then deleted it out of embarrassment

>> No.14597009

>For example, when Musk made public comments that he could help fix NASA’s problems, she recounts how then-Senator Nelson, in a private meeting, “shouted at me to ‘get your boy Elon in line.’”

>> No.14597011

>>14597009
in the context of dragon boosting the station or something else?

>> No.14597012

>>14596945
In WW2 the sons of the ruling classes lined up to serve in in the military. Anyone who didn't, without good reason, would have been regarded by his peers as a lowlife. Can you see that happening today?

>> No.14597013

>>14597009
>southern white male disparaging an african-american as "boy"
nelson is finished

>> No.14597014

>>14597009
>boy
that's racist

>> No.14597016
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14597016

There has been a RUD in one of the Raptor Tripod .

>> No.14597021

>>14597011
>She says that, years later, she was the personal target of then-Senator Nelson’s ire for advocating that private companies be given a chance to propose alternatives to NASA’s traditional government-run approach.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/21/get-your-boy-elon-in-line-nasa-tell-all-recounts-turmoil-over-private-space-race-00041085

>> No.14597022

>>14597016
Wow! SpaceX is FINISHED. So whens the next raptor test? 10 hrs from now?

>> No.14597031

>>14596750
Delusional

>> No.14597034

>>14596750
>Starship will launch Starship
Wow no one called that out, I didn't realize it until now.

The brain is a crazy thing as it replaces reality and create our own words that makes sense for this sentence.

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>>14596750
>NASA will launch SLS in late August/September
Lol

>> No.14597038

They're closing the beach, lift soon.

>> No.14597040
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>>14597016
>>14597022
lol

>> No.14597043

>>14597040
noooooo they have to shut down everything and investigate for 5 years until they have a perfect design that never fails ever during testing

>> No.14597044

>>14596947
Nothing?

>> No.14597046

>>14597012
>Broooo they did this in WW2
Thanks for proving my point.

>> No.14597063

>>14597040
Also, between this engine RUD and the last engine RUD, there were another 100 static fire tests in between.

>> No.14597072

>Chris Bergin fanboying about Elon
gigacringe

>> No.14597085
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14597085

Booster lift soon?

>> No.14597088

>>14597085
well is the road and launch site clear?

>> No.14597094

>>14597040
MOVE FAST

BREAK THINGS

>> No.14597101

>>14597072
>Chris Bergin making shit up that B7 will be a catch attempt
ultracringe

>> No.14597103

>>14597085
Cars are leaving

>> No.14597111

>SpaceX breaks stuff while testing
Lol whatever
>NASA or Boeing mess up while testing
AHAHAHHA ITS OVER

Why is this?

>> No.14597118

>>14597111
Because the SLS or Starliner both cost between one and two orders of magnitude more than a prototype.

>> No.14597121

>>14597111
Someone breaking on their in-expensive own dime for testing
vs
Someone breaking your expensive stuff thats supposed to work right out of the gate

>> No.14597128

>>14597111
There's definitely some bias, especially here, but a failed test for boing is months before they try again, a failed test for spacex is a week before they try again.

>> No.14597132

>>14597111
NASA and Boeing primarily focus on spending money. If SLS were $3b instead of $4b, they'd have their budgets cut by $1b. Spend all your budget at once, on one thing, and you *can't* have tests go wrong.

SpaceX is focused on results. Which means "cheap" is on the table, allowing repetitive destructive testing. There's also no congressional hearings if something goes wrong or an incredibly destructive test is done merely to discover limits.

In fact, Elon's autism and oversight would probably be triggered if tests *didn't* go wrong - since that implies they could've been more aggressive.

>> No.14597133
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14597133

>>14596983
He's a mummified corpse animated by pure evil.

>> No.14597136 [DELETED] 

>>14597111
spacex moves fast and breaks things

>> No.14597137

>>14597132
>>In fact, Elon's autism and oversight would probably be triggered if tests *didn't* go wrong - since that implies they could've been more aggressive.
That's so based

>> No.14597140

>>14597133
Well he's still able to speak in contrast to a certain other politician.

>> No.14597148
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14597148

SLS bros....

>> No.14597161

>>14597148
>and in the period of time that we were told they would there be no book
low iq, not gonna read that shit

>> No.14597166

>>14597161
>t. ESL

>> No.14597180

>>14597148
Lori grew on me.
it's very ironic when I think about it.
It was her turn and instead a senile old man got put ahead by another senile old man.

>> No.14597182

>>14597111
>$4 billion per launch
>years behind schedule
>incredibly risk adverse
>track record of fuckups

Who knows.

>> No.14597188

>>14597180
>“Thankfully,” she writes, “while the dinosaurs devour the last of the leaves on the high treetops, the furry mammals have continued to evolve.”

>She heralds NASA’s decision to select SpaceX to build the Human Landing System for the Artemis moon program — and lauds congressional pressure to open up the competition to other companies in the future.

>She is also hopeful that NASA will eventually be more open to SpaceX’s reusable Starship that is now under development.

She should have been the new NASA admin, instead its ballast Nelson who demoted Leuders for choosing SpaceX, godamn that really was a pivotal decision they made in the best of circumstances, based Jurczyk

>> No.14597192

>>14597180
>>14597188
Anyone who hates the SLS can't be all bad

>> No.14597209

>That makes Starship, which conducted a successful flight to the edge of space last year, especially threatening to the contractors and their allies in Congress.

oh Politico...

>> No.14597254

>>14596760
The upper boundary of Earth's atmosphere is constantly in flux. Safe minimum-energy LEO orbits and ascents really do depend on how active the sun is, because that in turn changes how high you need to be to stay clear of significant atmospheric drag. The ISS reboost might be a little more urgent than normal because of this.

>> No.14597299

>>14597254
>The ISS reboost might be a little more urgent than normal because of this.
Cygnus test (soon)

>> No.14597311

>>14597299
Pretty sure it already hit issues last test.

>> No.14597331

There’s speculation that the B7/S24 flight might be operational. Meaning B7 gets caught by the chopsticks, and S24 goes to a full orbit to deploy Starlinks

>> No.14597332

Chopsticks are lifting the booster !

>> No.14597335

>>14597331
No , B7 performs a water landing and S24 gets into an orbit with a very low apogee (100km)

>> No.14597348

>>14597311
?

>> No.14597367

>>14597348
https://blogs.nasa.gov/spacestation/2022/06/20/cygnus-reboost-aborted-next-steps-being-planned/

>> No.14597369

>>14597367
ughj

>> No.14597376
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Catching the booster sounds crazy but the original plan for SpaceX’s ITS and BFR was to land on the launch mount, which is arguably just as hard.

>> No.14597377

https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/getting-over-apolloism

>> No.14597379
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>>14596760
>>14597299
I say let it crash.

>> No.14597383

>>14597377
>hence the informal motto supposedly heard around NASA in those days: “waste anything but time.”

>> No.14597387

>>14595246
it sometimes is
that's what the old Elsa videos were all about

>> No.14597408
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>> No.14597412

>>14597383
time is the only currency that matters, if you dont optimize for time, you're losing out

>> No.14597418

>>14597412
No shit, imagine if that was still NASA's motto.
>But once the urgency of Apollo was gone, Johnson’s decisions had the effect of turning what should have been a vibrant space program into a white-collar jobs program, with many political decisions hinging on continuing employment rather than further progress into space. For example, the Marshall Space Flight Center has from its inception designed rockets, and it has always been important to Alabama politicians to provide it with funding to do so, even though the center has not successfully designed a rocket since the 1970s.

>> No.14597424

>>14597418
Though part of this was due to Nixon fucking over NASA's post-Apollo program goals, by slashing funding for near everything but the shuttle

>> No.14597426

For me, it's "Gradatim feroticer"

>> No.14597435
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>>14597408
must feel pretty great being at starbase and working on starship

>> No.14597445
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14597445

get your wallets out you little pigs.
master bergin needs a new car.

>> No.14597452

CLANG

>> No.14597457

>>14597445
seething

>> No.14597458

>>14597452
ITS OVER

>> No.14597461

CLANK SSSSHHHHH

>> No.14597466

Felon Husk hasn't tweeted in a while. Arrested? Executed?

>> No.14597468

>>14597426
you spelled it wrong it's gratadim ferociter

>> No.14597471

Moving up slowly. Its already free floating I think

>> No.14597480

>>14597471
No they put the stabilizer arms first. Right now they're just putting the knob in the hole

>> No.14597485

>>14597480
lewd

>> No.14597487

>>14597466
He's having a private meeting with Jeff Bezos as we speak.

>> No.14597489

>>14596355
Fake, thats the moon

>> No.14597493

>>14597445
Based

>> No.14597502
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>>14597487
They're doing this but with a living baby iguana instead.

>> No.14597506

>>14597502
>Eat fucking Timothy, Elon

>> No.14597534

nothing ever happens

>> No.14597537

>>14597534
Its literally happening

>> No.14597543

Is there life on /sfg/?

>> No.14597546

>>14597543
Nothing intelligent

>> No.14597548

>>14597543
unicellular

>> No.14597551

Shit isnt moving. Elon Musk is a fraud

>> No.14597556

>>14597551
Exactly , like , hurry the fuck up. Cant be that hard to launch the biggest rocket ever , like , ni**a light the f*cking candle

>> No.14597560

>>14596832
apply anyway

>> No.14597568

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXt0dwWVi6w

Live again for the booster lift

>> No.14597571

>>14597568
gib more shekels space goyim

>> No.14597572

Cherrypicker going up.
That's the expendable mexican workers.

>> No.14597573

>>14596924
Tesla is not SpaceX

>> No.14597575

>>14597572
Wouldn't it be cheaper to reuse them?

>> No.14597587

>>14597572
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh8F-r25TWc

>> No.14597592

>>14597568
how many reps?

>> No.14597595

>>14597568
I like the stream quality but i cant stand the guys accents.

>> No.14597604

>>14597595
just mute. there's also this one with more angles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg

>> No.14597611

>>14597604
Thats better, thanks. I like the birds singing in this one.

>> No.14597634
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14597634

The UR-700 got me thinking about an alt history timeline for my KSP role play save.

1959
>Sergei Korolev dies

1962
>Following Kennedey’s “we choose to go to the moon” speech, the USSR also begins development of their manned lunar programme
>Vladimir Chelomei is appointed to be the main designer for the lunar launcher.

1963
>President Kennedy is killed
>Unlike in our timeline, the US invades Vietnam early. This kills NASA’s budget.

1964
>Apollo is cancelled. NASA is forced to use Gemini spacecraft for their lunar program
>Due to the smaller size and crew of a Lunar Gemini, the Saturn V is cancelled, in favour of a smaller variant akin to the Saturn C-3 (45 T to LEO, 18 T to the Moon)
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_C-3

1967
>Maiden flight of the Saturn C-3

1968
>Maiden flight of the UR-700. It fails.

1969
>Gemini 20 is the first manned lunar landing, carrying Ed White to the surface on a solo mission

1970
>Alexei Leonov is the first Soviet to land on the moon.

Also 1970
>Without a budget to build the “space shuttle,” and with mounting pressures following the Soviet landing - and their much more capable vehicles - NASA is forced to continue the Lunar Gemini program

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>> No.14597643

>>14597634
>Maiden flight of the UR-700. It fails.
I can't begin to fathom the absurdity of levelling the launch pad and spreading delicious Glushko-gas all over the place, if it's not an in-flight failure.

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>>14597641
>I'm ready to die, light the engines

>> No.14597652

>>14596835
>oversaturated small launch market has been obvious for years
>satellite imagery market getting saturated
>public investors getting burned by underdelivering startups
>entering a recession
no shit sherlock

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>>14597644

>> No.14597658

>>14597655
lol what is this even from

>> No.14597666

>>14595849
>>14595896
>>14596002
>>14596045
>>14596416

You like winged orbiters, don't you /sfg/?

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>>14597666

forgot pic

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>> No.14597687

>>14597681
It's over

>> No.14597690

Bro a fucking crane?
What could possibly require a crane on the transport stand right now?

>> No.14597692

>>14597690
IT IS OVER

>> No.14597695

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGx400xCDVY

>> No.14597696

oopsie woopsie one of our 22 separate disconnect systems did a fucky wucky

>> No.14597699

>>14597690
They want to put the balls on either side of the booster to complete the look

>> No.14597701

Good job spacex, you fuckinG set back SIX MONTHS OF PROGRESS

>> No.14597702
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14597702

which state has the largest space industry

>> No.14597704

>>14597702
Florida by far

>> No.14597706

>>14597641
damn that looks pretty clean

>> No.14597708

>>14595269
They removed the boosters and forgot to take the struts out as well.

>> No.14597709

>>14597702
Florida > Texas >California = Virginia

>> No.14597710

>>14597634
If the first UR-700 RUDs on the pad in 1968 then 1970 would probably be the earliest time anyone would be able to get back to the launch pad. 4,200 tons of hydrazine would take forever to clean up.

>> No.14597711

>>14597690
How else are the astronauts gonna get in?

>> No.14597713

>>14597658
https://youtu.be/vJMP7RBsoms

>> No.14597715

>>14597709
it's definitely california > texas and it's not close

>> No.14597716

>>14597702
California, and it's not close

>> No.14597717

>>14597715
>_____
>__________
>____ ______ ___________
>_______________

retard

>> No.14597720

>>14596045
>blue screen lines
very nostalgic

>> No.14597721

california
>a bunch of space force bases including vandenberg
>spacex and a bunch of old space companies
>nasa and a bunch of universities involved in spaceflight
>virgin orbit launches

texas
>boca chica/starbase
>nasa headquarters in houston
>a bunch of new space startups
>space force basic training
>blue origin launches
>el paso connections to white sands?

>> No.14597723

>>14597702
Prior to DigitalGlobe moving out I would have said Colorado actually, since Lockheed Space and a bunch of other companies are there

But if you're talking total jobs then any state with a NASA center blows it out of the water. California > Texas > Florida > Alabama > Colorado > DC

>> No.14597724

>>14597668
It is the easiest or best supported control scheme for upper stage reuse in default KSP

>> No.14597733

>>14597721
>california
>spacex
Give it time

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>>14597666
>>14597668
Vertical flight may be superior but it is fucking boring in comparison. With horizontal spacecraft you can fly wherever you want. Sit in the pilot seat, pop a cold one with the boys, and take a look at those incredible methane lakes as you go soaring over another lightning storm.

Or you can sit in ze pod instead. Waiting around for some underfunded engineer to strip more wings off because muh unneeded weight. You aren't even allowed to fucking steer the things half the time

The real fun will arrive when people get off their asses and collect enough coins to finish the SABRE engines and equip all spaceplanes with VTOL landing thrusters so they don't have to build gigantic runways all over the planet

>> No.14597752

>>14597721
>Texas
McGregor and Blue Origin facility too

>> No.14597758
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>>14597543
its a godawful small affair

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>>14597643
>>14597710
Honestly would a non-shit N1 be better then? The whole “dude Korolev lived!” Thing is almost cliche but at least the N1 wasn’t toxic.
UR-700 or N1 doesn’t matter, I’m just trying to find a reasonable justification for the USSR and America to continue on the moon and maybe mars.

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>>14597634
>Lunar Gemini
which of these viewing options anon?

>> No.14597775

>>14595973
English please

>> No.14597783

>>14597762
The best possible outcome would be someone making like Stalin and knocking Krolev and Glushko's heads together until they agree to play nice with each other. A RD-270 first stage with a stock N-1 everything else should be within the capabilities of Soviet engineering and manufacturing while keeping the volume of hypergolics to something sane. Or you convince Glushko that kerolox doesn't have cooties and he designs the RD-170 a decade early.

And yeah, "Somehow, Korolev survived!" is right up there with the USSR not imploding when every rational factor said that it should.

>> No.14597784

Lift wen?
It hasn't moved in 3 hours

>> No.14597785
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>>14597764
I was thinking even simpler. Gemini-LOR was basically Apollo but with smaller vehicles. The lander alone was under 5 tons because it carried a single person for only a few hours

>> No.14597787

>>14597784
it is over and spacex (pbuh) is finished wallah

>> No.14597789

>>14597783
Honestly “the USSR found a pot of gold and somehow built a test stand for the N1’s stages before flight” seems feasible I guess. With it without Korolev, the N1 is was a flawed design.

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>>14597762
>Honestly would a non-shit N1 be better then?
I think so. Such toxic propellants should be left at what they do best, ballistic missiles with high readiness and niche, high performance usages, best not too much in one place at that.
>The whole “dude Korolev lived!” Thing is almost cliche
I think it's a fair one, despite how popular it got. N1 would've had significantly better chances of succeeding otherwise, I'm sure of it. Of course, it's just fiction and imagination, working from what we know about the people (and their influence both at Moscow and Baikonur) and what they had available at the time, since we can't be sure how it'd have gone. Otherwise, there's stuff like Soyuz A, but it was very early on and dropped for very rightful reasons at the time, but maybe you could move from circumlunar to manned landing with some changes, no idea.

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>>14597785
ah, the 'Bell 47' option

>> No.14597818

Why is mostly women who know whats up with Starship at NASA

https://www.ted.com/talks/jennifer_heldmann_spacex_s_supersized_starship_rocket_and_the_future_of_galactic_exploration

>> No.14597819

>>14597818
They don't call it the old boy's club for nothing anon

>> No.14597822

>>14597818
Women LOVE big rockets

>> No.14597824

>>14597789
The N1 was just too many risky design choices all lining up in a row. Having 30 engines on the first stage was too complex and presented too many chances for something vital to break. The NK-15s were ass engines that couldn’t be tested before flight, but the NK-33s that they were going to replace them with in the N1F were solid. Controlling all of those engines with the KORD system was always going to be a crapshoot because soviet computers were so inferior to their western counterparts.

If they could fix even one of those issues, get a engine that can be tested before flight, get a first stage with fewer breakable parts or something that doesn’t rely on finicky computer control, then the N1 could have been a rocket that only failed occasionally instead of failing spectacularly on every fucking launch.

>> No.14597825

crane rolling back
COME ON NOW LETS LIFT IT

>> No.14597829
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14597829

>>14597818
>adapted from Blue Origin

>> No.14597830

>>14597829
WAT

>> No.14597834

>>14597829
>3-stage New Glenn
Ohh the memories, when it looked promising...

>> No.14597839

>>14597834
>promising
3 stage rockets are literally doa

>> No.14597840

>>14597834
Its not that easy in rocketry

>> No.14597843

>getting erect over starship
YIKES

Is this what all nerds do?

>> No.14597845

>>14597793
>>14597824
Honestly the original plan for the N1 was a smaller, 40 to 50 ton to LEO vehicle. It would be followed by the N2 - a 80 ton to LEO vehicle.

> - (Korolev) - to be developed in 1960 - 1962. 40 to 50 metric tons payload to low earth orbit and 10 to 20 metric tons to Mars. Draft project to be completed by second quarter 1961.
>N-II - (Korolev) - to be completed in 1963 - 1967. 60 to 80 metric ton payload to low earth orbit and 20 to 40 metric tons to Mars. Draft project to be completed in 1962.

In this timeline, maybe both the US and USSR end up with a 40 ton to LEO rocket instead of the fuckhuge ones of our world. But the US uses the Saturn C-3 for a Gemini LOR and the Soviets use two N1-lite launches to do EOR and then LOR.

Maybe in the 70’s, the N1F of our timeline appears (no NK-15 issues).

>> No.14597855

>>14596355
checked

I am not supposed to share this but I will anyways. Mercury has a bountiful underground freshwater ocean.

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>>14597822

>> No.14597858

>>14597856
she's getting more disgusting by the minute

>> No.14597863

>>14597856
She's a big girl.

>> No.14597865

>cows moove lift at c(0mph)w
thank you for the donation Musical Wolves

>> No.14597866

>>14594802
If you had a budget of 100 Trillion dollars (and inflation/supply/demand are ignored) what would you build?

I'm thinking

>partial space ring (forget the specific name)
>space elevator
>orbital launch site
>lagrange point space stations
>lagrange point 3d printing factories, energy production, food production
>use bases and space industrial capacity to expand to Mars, Jupiter moons

>> No.14597868

>>14597863
If she pulled me off would I die?

>> No.14597871

>>14597866
I'll just give the 100 trillion to Musk himself and call it a day

>> No.14597874

MOVING

>> No.14597875

>>14597866
Warp Drive, Alpha Centauri colony

>> No.14597876

>>14597866
Orbital 3D factory for turning mining ores into small rogget factory (in orbit only, or LEO -> Moon orbit transit)
Space Elevator
LEO fueling depot
Orbital solar/nuclear power station
Moon fueling depot
Mars fueling depot
Mars space elevator
Mars colony city

>> No.14597878

>>14597874
lier

>> No.14597881

>>14597866
First, we pave over Boca Chica.

>> No.14597888

there's so much happening tonight i can barely give attention to this

>> No.14597890
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KILOMETER HIGH MOUNTAINS OF ICE IN THE SATURNIAN RINGS

>> No.14597891

>>14597890
Wait seriously, I had no idea about this holy fuck, was this just discovered?

>> No.14597892

>>14597891
no it's a cassini image

>> No.14597899

has b7 been on the stand before

>> No.14597902

>>14597899
not on OLM just on the ANAL DESTROYER

>> No.14597903

>>14597881
>paving one single road on a natural sanctuary
how you dare, won't you think of the turtles, that's gonna take a couple of environmental reviews, years of bureaucracy, and some billion dollars to locals for damages

>> No.14597904

>>14597445
(((berg)))in

>> No.14597916

have they been putting engines in s24 yet

>> No.14597917

>>14597818
Why the fuck is she using that old-ass concept of BFR? I thought this was old but then noticed it was filmed in April of this year.

>> No.14597922

>>14597916
Probably soon, if not already.

>> No.14597925

>>14597868
It would be extremely painful

>> No.14597934

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=spacex-starlink&num=1

Some interesting speed tests for Starlink.

>> No.14597935

PAD CLEAR
>PAD CLEAR
PAD CLEAR
>PAD CLEAR

>> No.14597941

the siren is so kino

>> No.14597942

fireworks at the production site

>> No.14597944

>>14597942
oh nvm not form there

>> No.14597945

>>14597942
uh oh, those aren't fireworks

>> No.14597952

VENTING

>> No.14597953

>>14597534
nothing ever happens. still people at the pad

>> No.14597959

>>14597865
>if the pad is clear, does that mean it is see-through?
tank you for the donation Musical Wolves

>> No.14597963
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Is this the way?

>> No.14597965
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>>14597634
i know it's just for fun so you can do whatever, but apollo getting cancelled for lunar gemini was never a serious possibility. you could just do a more lightweight apollo proposal like the mission module designs from martin or GE that got rejected for faget's giant gumdrop.

>> No.14597969

LIFTING

>> No.14597970

HABBENING

Very minute moves

>> No.14597973

moving at a beetle's pace

>> No.14597977

>>14597973
he got good rates renting out their slave labor

>> No.14597978

>>14597963
>retard gets no replies
>makes a thread on /k/
i see you schizo

>> No.14597984
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14597984

>>14597963
DOD's study

>> No.14597986

reminder not to download pdfs from 4chan

>> No.14597989

>>14597984
>heavily redacted
boring

>> No.14597990

>>14597963
Is it me or are those Starships fitted for both cargo and crew just like the Shuttle? I swear I just can't with oldspace's autism

>> No.14597991

>5 hours of talking while watching a tall steel tank affixed to a tower

milk those shekels NSF, milk those shekels

>> No.14597994

>>14597986
>not just using your homemade pdf parser
ngmi

>> No.14597997

>>14597991
Good boy, now buy a hoodie and a mug.

>> No.14598000

>>14597997
Reminder that even Musk himself buys t-shirts from everydayastronaut, wouldn't surprise if he bought some from NSF as well kek

>> No.14598003

>>14597991
Consider it funding for a strategic autism reserve. I mean, what if some shit randomly breaks? Wouldn't want to miss that footage.

>> No.14598010

>>14597012
Not even remotely true my guy. Guess who controlled the draft boards.

>> No.14598013

hey guys im back after two weeks. so, when we launchin?

>> No.14598015

>>14598013
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1421507539951304708

>> No.14598018

>>14598013
>when we launchin?
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1537672692035375107?cxt=HHwWhsCy2dPK9NYqAAAA

>> No.14598020

>>14598018
>hopefully
yikes

>> No.14598021

>>14598013
july 7

>> No.14598026

>>14598020
It depends on how long it takes the FAA to look at their 75-thing checklist and say yep, you did do all those things, here is a license.

Might take them not a lot of time might take them until the heat death of the universe, but I think it won't be long, personally

>> No.14598028

>>14598013
There's an FAA-grade book report due in about 2 weeks.

After that, the rocket launching is trivial.

>> No.14598037

So just to be clear, SLS failed its WDR multiple times, but NASA is calling it a success and will launch anyway? and this comes at the same time B7 is getting readied for a WDR/static fire?

>> No.14598039

>>14598026
A lot of the things, SpaceX is already doing. A lot of them are as simple as SpaceX sayin “ok well do that from now on.”
I swear to god if the book report ends up being the delaying factor though

>> No.14598046

>>14598037
yes

>> No.14598047

>>14598037
They will try and see how far they will get with launch

>> No.14598049

>>14598039
>tfw 50 word essay on the civil war due tomorrow
>still shitposting on 4chan

>> No.14598051

so many actuators. the head of the fucking elbow is articulating

>> No.14598055

>>14596045
Why the fuck does that have any oxidizer in it at all?

>> No.14598057
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>>14598039
Hence my emphasis on the FAA: you can be ready and finished but it can take time for a government entity to recognize that you are ready

>I swear to god if the book report ends up being the delaying factor though
I know surely they must hire someone in that kind of expertise, but it was more amusing imagining someone driving over there to work on the most promising rockets in the world only for their boss to simply lead them into an empty room with a #2 pencil and paper
>you'll get your pan pizza by the end of the day martinez gl the whole future light of human consciousness is depending on you

>> No.14598072

>>14598057
The only thing the FAA needs to do is the launch license, which SpaceX hasn't applied for yet. The mitigated FONSI is already over, they don't need to have the mitigations done before they can launch.

>> No.14598076

>>14598072
>they don't need to have the mitigations done before they can launch.
wrong

>> No.14598086

Wow that thing is fucking ZOOMING

>> No.14598087

>>14598086
It stops immediately after I post of course

>> No.14598090
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Damn...

>> No.14598092
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>> No.14598093

So much about limiting light pollution.
Envirofags tremble in front of the kilowatt LED array

>> No.14598095
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>>14598072
That's not correct. I believe they can apply for a license WHILE they fill fulfill the mitigations, but they definitely cannot launch until they complete all mitigations

>> No.14598097

I wonder if they'll keep stenciling the raptor serial numbers on every single one. It's pretty kino and makes autistic engine tracking easier.

>> No.14598098

>>14598095
I think they only need SpaceX's mitigations to have an actionable plan and schedule.

>> No.14598100

>>14596958
People make drones and bots with basketball hoops on them that can't miss. Don't forget that the chopsticks move to adjust too.

>> No.14598101

She's swinging superrrr fast

>> No.14598108

>>14598098
Yep, SpaceX just needs to demonstrate they've started working on them. It's not a 75 item checklist, especially because some of the items are on-going things SpaceX has to do regularly.

>> No.14598115

>>14598090
>>14598092
>>14598095
lewd

>> No.14598116

The sodium lights look great. Crazy, this might be the last time we see B7 on the launch table before it goes to space

>> No.14598128
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14598128

Let the testing campaign begin... now

>> No.14598130

B7 is going in your mom's pussy

>> No.14598131

Anyone else get kind of emotionally attached to these things?

>> No.14598134

>>14598131
touch grass
>>14598130
based

>> No.14598136

>>14598128
Put those fucking turtles beneath the launch mount just as Super Heavy ignites, oh yeah

>> No.14598137

>>14598128
Tastes like chicken

>> No.14598140

Honestly, how do you guys think Starship OFT-1 will go?

>> No.14598142
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>>14598140

>> No.14598144

>>14598116
They need to ban LED street lights and bring back sodium where they've been removed

>> No.14598145

>>14598131
Yes. This is a huge moment in history and preludes one of the most important events in all of human history, and everything that will follow after it will be even more insane

>> No.14598148
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>>14595006
>The launch of NASA's CAPSTONE moon mission has been delayed at least two additional days, to no earlier than Monday (June 27).

>If all goes according to the current plan, CAPSTONE will launch Monday at 5:50 a.m. EDT (0950 GMT) and arrive at the moon on Nov. 13. That arrival date will remain the same no matter when CAPSTONE lifts off, NASA officials said; it's set by the mission's trajectory design. CAPSTONE's launch window extends through July 27.

The 55-pound (25 kilograms) CAPSTONE won't land on the moon. Its chief objective is to verify the stability of a near rectilinear halo orbit (NRHO) around the moon — a highly elliptical path that no spacecraft has ever occupied before.

>The cubesat will also perform some navigation and communications tests, some of them in tandem with NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, which has been circling Earth's nearest neighbor for more than a decade.

>> No.14598149

>>14598090
>>14598092
>>14598095
this thing is a flop
its going to take nearly a hour JUST to get the booster on the pad
what a joke

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>> No.14598153

>>14598140
RUD and loss of crew, NTSB steps in, private space regulated, impossible to man-rate Starship, etc etc

>> No.14598157

>>14598153
huh, thought you were talking about first manned launch, anyways, that's how it'd go in that case

>> No.14598160

>>14598140
>honestly
One of two will happen. 1) It makes it really high 70km? altitude, and then it deviates from the flight path a little and so the safety people ask them to remotely detonate it
2) It reaches space but Starship wobbles around and disintegrates as it reenters over Hawaii

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>>14598145
>This is a huge moment in history
I've already seen this shit. Hurry the fuck up Elon

>> No.14598163

>>14598162
>those 3 missing tiles
embarrassing

>> No.14598164

>Hurry the fuck up Elon
Elon has nothing to do with it taking a long time. They are literally on the pad right now with everything they need, but they can't legally do a lot right now

>> No.14598165

Venting confirmed

Launch in 30

>> No.14598166

>>14598165
>days

>> No.14598169

>>14598166
>months

>> No.14598174

Call me a retard, but the stand is complete right? They can do static fires from it now?

>> No.14598179

>>14598174
Probably? They’ve done cryo tests

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>>14598174
fresh grandpa joe progress report here.

Got some more work to do.

>> No.14598182

>>14598181
>fresh grandpa joe progress report here.
lol
lmao

>> No.14598184

need a webm of the booster being lifted

>> No.14598189

>>14598181
Not really. Most of it is done/close to being done. I'd be very surprised if we don't see an SF in two weeks.

>> No.14598190

>>14598181
>need
How long realistically until Starship is ready for an orbital launch?

>> No.14598191

>>14598190
A month or two.

>> No.14598194

>>14598190
finish firing all engines>stack Ship>wait to be given a license>launch

>> No.14598197

>>14598153
>>14598157
ntsb can still ground it even without a crew lol

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K N E E L

>> No.14598201
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14598201

Ah fuck
They're gonna cancel the fonsi

>> No.14598203

>>14598201
how convenient, isn't it

>> No.14598206

>>14598201
>>14598203
Magnolia Beach is 180 miles away.

>> No.14598207

>>14598206
It's simply too risky. Save the trees, save the bees, save the whales, save those snails.

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IF YOU THOUGHT SHUTTLE POSTING WAS BAD, WAIT TILL YOU SEE NEXT LEVEL SHUTTLE DERIVRED HARDWARE

>> No.14598211

>>14598181
Apollo 4, here we gooooooo

>> No.14598213

>>14598210
the next 1000 years

>> No.14598214

>>14598211
still the greatest news commentary in american history https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzuZ2vySCho

>> No.14598215

>>14598210
source?

>> No.14598217
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>>14598201
you can park by the beach and walk a ways down the beach to the fence line (red).
I did that a few weeks ago. The green circle was where I observed a sea turtle the size of a european car shitting out eggs and burying it in sand.

>> No.14598218

>>14598210
Little bit too advanced for '90s but eh

>> No.14598220

>>14598214
>ywn hear highly respected newscasters literally crying and shaking in awe as Starship pierces the heavens
I hate modern journalism

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>>14598215
for all mankind

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>>14598214
imagine the cringe if NSF narrated Apollo flights

>> No.14598232
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They should send up a turtle plush on the next Crew Dragon for the lulz.

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>>14598230
delete this, you'll give these shekel grubbers a bad idea.

>> No.14598234

>>14598230
answering superchats wanting to know if the s-ii can SSTO when neil's walking down the ladder

>> No.14598235

>>14598220
Tim Dodd is the modern Walter Cronkite

>> No.14598236

>>14598230
>NSF narrating Apollo flights
absolute kino

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>>14598234
too real anon

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>>14598230
I remember when news channels were covering SN10. Since NSF were the only people rolling when it blew up, their cringey voices were broadcast to millions.

>> No.14598245

>>14598238
Were they?

>> No.14598247

It's getting real
https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1540086380469964800
>Super Heavy Booster 7 with 33 Raptor engines installed was transported to the orbital launch pad at Starbase

>> No.14598248

"And from the crew of Apollo 8, we close with good night, good luck, merry christm-"
"PattyDukeFan43 thanks for the superchat, he wants to know when Apollo 9 is going to launch and if NASA will decide to go ahead and have it land on the moon. That's a great question, and I think the answer is maybe?"

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14598254

>watching apollo 4/5 doc
>this comes on

hol up
is this accurate? rollercoaster re-entry? is this common knowledge?? or did they give up on this for later flights?

>> No.14598258

>>14597984
So what makes them think an ASAT or an ABM wouldn't fuck a Starship up

>> No.14598260
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>>14598248
lmao but also picrel. this is really gonna happen when we land on mars, but instead of youtube superberries it'll be Tik Tok "Snoppers". Buy one snopper, you get 15min access to the stream, but a grandsnopper gets you a chance to be on live stream with your favorite NSF pals. limited time offer to become NSF guest commentator !

>> No.14598261

>>14598245
I stand corrected. Some of them either used Labpadre footage or outright muted them lmao. This was the only one I could find with the voiceover, and it cut off most of it.
https://youtu.be/dEoYM7xXMno?t=103

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>>14598254
i think it's common knowledge but i only learned it from playing rp-1. it's the only way to keep your kerbals from passing out from the g loads. they never depict it in the movies because it'd kill the dramatic tension.

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>>14598260
we have alternatives to turn to when NSF is intolerable

>> No.14598272

>>14598201
Why are they crumpled?

>> No.14598278

>>14598272
parental abuse

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>>14598270
mfw the lunch

>> No.14598296

>>14598291
>>14598270
man pressure-fed astronaut's really been taking his gimmick a little too seriously

>> No.14598307

>>14598218

this is the time line where the byzantine empire won.

>> No.14598316

>>14598218
Advanced sure but this is what, eleven years after the Pathfinder? It should be nothing

>> No.14598318

>>14598291
>>14598270
why don't fat "people" realize how hideous they are?

>> No.14598325

>>14598210
Why would it have a black underside heatshield?

>> No.14598330

>>14598325
It's either what they plan to use to land on Mars, or Earth, or both.

>> No.14598340

Booster 7 is free-standing on the OLM.

>> No.14598342

https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/1540211684626665472
timelapse

>> No.14598345

>Orbital Sidekick (OSK) announced today it has been selected by Dallas-based Energy Transfer to monitor its assets in the Permian Basin through satellite technology. Energy Transfer is one of the largest energy infrastructure companies in North America with more than 120,000 miles of pipeline and related assets crossing 41 states. OSK is the first company to commercially deploy hyperspectral sensors in space.

Should've figured that spysats were taking inventory of all pipeline flows globally, now it's something you can pay for

>> No.14598346

>NASA will hold a media teleconference at 11 a.m. EDT Friday, June 24, to discuss next steps for the Artemis I mission with the Space Launch System (SLS) rocket and Orion spacecraft at the agency’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida. Audio of the call will livestream on NASA’s website
>Teams conducted a wet dress rehearsal Monday, June 20, to validate the timelines and procedures for launch, including loading propellant into the rocket’s tanks, performing the launch countdown through the handover to the automated launch sequencer, and draining the tanks.
>NASA has reviewed the data from the rehearsal and determined the testing campaign is complete. The agency will roll SLS and Orion back to the Vehicle Assembly Building (VAB) at Kennedy next week to prepare the rocket and spacecraft for launch and repair a leak detected during the most recent rehearsal. NASA plans to return SLS and Orion to the pad for launch in late August. NASA will set a specific target launch date after replacing hardware associated with the leak.

Cucked by hydrolox again

>> No.14598361

>>14598263
This is just what an elliptical retry orbit looks like when you plot the orbit in a line.

>> No.14598405

>>14598361
that's kinda what it was in a sense, but they were using capsule lift to carefully control the trajectory so that the skip only lasted a few minutes. soviets did the same thing with the lunar zonds.

>> No.14598410

>>14598405
I just roll invert a few times during high speed reentries in KSP

>> No.14598416
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14598416

The more I like rockets, the less I care about astronomy. I don’t give a fuck about some random star; I’d rather hear about Mars colonization plans

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>>14598214
>>14598220
> same reporter saw 1st public nuclear bomb test & 1st Saturn V launch
goddamn

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14598533

>>14598325
single stage to lunar surface and back without refuelling fren

>> No.14598599

It's over

>> No.14598615

>>14598599
It hasn't even begun.

>> No.14598635

>>14598346
>they're actually going to fucking launch it without yet managing to fill the tanks a single time
should get a betting pool going for how long it takes to explode; personally I think it'll happen even before T-0

>> No.14598640

>>14598635
>takes a little longer to fill than normal
>no bigggy
>its a big undetected leak
>hydrogen floating around everywhere
>engine ignites
>

>> No.14598692

>>14598533
I figured that. But why the fuck is it tiled like a space shuttle?

>> No.14598713

>>14598692
Production designers using real world references to enhance the authenticity of what they're creating despite it not actually making much sense. It's a problem that plagues most "realistic" space based media

>> No.14598757

>>14598148
>no birthday launch
feels bad

>>14598200
>has a transporter-erector
>doesn't use it
What did they mean by this?

>> No.14598767

>>14598258
Speed of light (laser)
vs
Speed of missile (hypersonic)

>> No.14598783

>>14598782
>>14598782
New thread

>> No.14598846

>>14598201
>rarest species
HAY LOOK GUISE THIS ONE IZ UH LITTLE DIFFERNT MUST BE NUW SPEECEEZ
>Magnolia Beach
Oh, and it's over 100 miles away from Boca Chica.
(not like that will stop the eco-kvetchers)
Also, to the turtles: FUCK OFF WE'RE FULL

>> No.14598881

>>14598846
but i like the turtles :(

>> No.14598967

>>14594870
Based.

>> No.14598977

>>14595251
The GOAT

>> No.14598995

>>14597043
And then just end up scrapping the program for no reason.

>> No.14599004

>>14597745
You can't just post porn like that.

>> No.14599017

>>14598214
This made me hard.

>> No.14599030

>>14597890
Saturn is so fucking cool.

>> No.14599051

>>14598640
Reminder that Artemis 1 exploding *saves* money and advances science because it makes it more likely they'll cancel the whole dogshit program.

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Apparently working the chopsticks is way more precise for the booster than the crane. Booster 4 had issues with bumping Raptors onto the OLM.

>> No.14599148

>>14598230
WOULD

>> No.14599154

>>14599121
yeah of course. with the crane it sways visibly in the wind. also if they want to nail it even further they can make the two alignment pins on the OLM extend upwards and meet the booster like they do on the transport stand.

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Imagine NSF narrating the Challenger disaster lol

>> No.14599172

>>14599165
they'd cut away like faggots instead of following the burning cockpit through the air

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>FIDO when were you expecting tracking?
>1 minute ago flight

100% recommend watching the full live reaction of mission control to the Columbia disaster. It’s haunting and sad.
Some time stamps
>5:17 - Last transmission
>6:03 - Shuttle should have broken up here
>8:30 - Mission control realizes what happened
>12:30 - “lock the doors”

> https://youtu.be/cbnT8Sf_LRs

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This shit actually pisses me off.