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Feynman blew you fucks out 50 years ago.
>predicted replication crisis
>predicted the rise of soience
>predicted the fall of science
https://sites.cs.ucsb.edu/~ravenben/cargocult.html
>what has been referred to as my curiosity for investigation has landed me in a difficulty where I found so much junk that I'm overwhelmed. . . . I didn't realize how MUCH there was.
>I found things that even more people believe, such as that we have some knowledge of how to educate. There are big schools of reading methods and mathematics methods, and so forth, but if you notice, you'll see the reading scores keep going down--or hardly going up--in spite of the fact that we continually use these same people to improve the methods.
>If you make a theory, for example, and advertise it, or put it out, then you must also put down all the facts that disagree with it, as well as those that agree with it.
>In summary, the idea is to give all of the information to help others to judge the value of your contribution; not just the information that leads to judgement in one particular direction or another.
>A great deal of their difficulty is, of course, the difficulty of the subject and the inapplicability of the scientific method to the subject.
Feynman tried to warn us, and we didn't listen. We just doubled down, and now science is irreparably harmed.

>> No.12739045

>>12739042
Astronomers were already BTFO'd decades ago.
> I was a little surprised when I was talking to a friend who was going to go on the radio. He does work on cosmology and astronomy, and he wondered how he would explain what the applications of his work were. "Well," I said, "there aren't any." He said, "Yes, but then we won't get support for more research of this kind." I think that's kind of dishonest. If you're representing yourself as a scientist, then you should explain to the layman what you're doing-- and if they don't support you under those circumstances, then that's their decision.

>> No.12739053

>>12739042
>and now science is irreparably harmed.
Based, fuck (((science)))

>> No.12739312

>>12739042
Somebody recently watched the Luke Smith video on this...

>> No.12739907
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>>12739042
based Dick

>> No.12740041

>>12739907
Ultra based

>> No.12740051

>>12739907
The most based physicist I can ever remember.

>> No.12740075

>>12740051
Wait until reddit finds out the chapter about women in "Surely you are joking, Mr. Feynman".

>> No.12740098

>>12740075
>buys $1.10 worth of sandwiches
>demands money back
Definitely a kike. I'm not even mad, he's based as fuck.

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Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKTSaezB4p8

>> No.12740107

> I'm trying to figure out what to say, when the guy says to her, "I'm, uh, studying massage. Could I practice on you?" "Sure," she says. They get out of the bath and she lies down on a massage table nearby. I think to myself, "What a nifty line! I can never think of anything like that!" He starts to rub her big toe. "I think I feel it," he says. "I feel a kind of dent--is that the pituitary?" I blurt out, "You're a helluva long way from the pituitary, man!" They looked at me, horrified--I had blown my cover--and said, "It's reflexology!" I quickly closed my eyes and appeared to be meditating.

One of us

>> No.12740513

>>12739907
A jew vampire

>> No.12740535

>>12740513
who, Schwarz? (feynman was shitting on John Henry Schwarz in that passage)

>> No.12740955

>>12740101
This genuinely made me smile.
This pretty fucking based.

>> No.12740999

>>12740075
He had to be taught by his classmates how to deal with women.

>> No.12741006

>>12739907
Lololololololololol he absolutely BTFO faggot string theorist holy kek.

>> No.12741023

>>12739045
That's a pretty narrow view. Maybe it's true of theorists like Feynman, but observational astronomy has a great deal of spin off technology. Just because something isn't directly applicable doesn't mean it has no impact on society.

>> No.12741024

Why does everything has to be a cargo cult now ?
Fucking buzzwords

>> No.12741033

>>12741024
there is a coordinated attack to make science uncool by you know who

>> No.12741094

>>12741024
>>12741033
>In the South Seas there is a cargo cult of people. During the war they saw airplanes land with lots of good materials, and they want the same thing to happen now. So they've arranged to imitate things like runways, to put fires along the sides of the runways, to make a wooden hut for a man to sit in, with two wooden pieces on his head like headphones and bars of bamboo sticking out like antennas—he's the controller—and they wait for the airplanes to land. They're doing everything right. The form is perfect. It looks exactly the way it looked before. But it doesn't work. No airplanes land. So I call these things cargo cult science, because they follow all the apparent precepts and forms of scientific investigation, but they're missing something essential, because the planes don't land.
It has nothing to do with Jews trying to make science uncool though, it's actually the opposite lol. Feynman was talking about the growth of non-science "science".
The buzzword is used as a metaphor for how retarded and useless the research coming out of these fields are because they are fundamentally unscientific.
If anything it is a plea to save research and science like OP said.

>> No.12741191

>>12741033
Cargo cult science is the kind of science that looks uncool, and for a good reason.

>> No.12742844

>>12741023
>shifting goalposts
The question wasn't this nebulous, abstract "impact on society". Everything has an impact on society, for example, a serial rapist. Doesn't mean there are any practical applications associated with it. The objections are that stargazing and mathology applied to cosmos have no practical applications. I haven't met any cosmologist who even disagrees with this. They will however bend over backwards to justify these "indirect" applications.

>> No.12742868

>>12739042
>soience
kek I'm stealing this one.

>> No.12742882

Feynman is the most based of the based he is the based daddy

>> No.12743114

>>12739907
Incredibly based

>> No.12744363

bump