/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.12709244]

Has any of you faggots actually read his manifesto? If so, your thoughts?

[Anonymous No.12709250]

>>12709244
yes, and it BTFO's /sci/ence

[Anonymous No.12709256]

>>12709244
Yeah, I did.
He's right for the most part but I disagree with the part where he says technology isn't worth medical progress, and that curing cancer would actually be a bad thing.

[Anonymous No.12709263]

>le enlightened totalitarian regime simultaneously defeating everyone else and keeping all technology under wraps

[Anonymous No.12709268]

>>12709263
>le no clue
Ted wanted voluntary abstainment from tech

[Anonymous No.12709271]

>>12709268
Opening his parcel bombs was voluntary too I bet

[Anonymous No.12709280]

>>12709271
Still no clue. The bombs were necessary because there was no other way to spread his message

[Anonymous No.12709290]

>>12709268
so getting cucked when ever someone who doesn't abstain shows up?

[Anonymous No.12709307]

>>12709280
>Afterwards, Kaczynski set his sights on airline travel. On Nov. 15, 1979, he upped the ante and placed a bomb in the cargo hold of American Airlines Flight 444. The plane was a Boeing 727 model flying from Chicago to Washington, D.C. The bomb caused "a sucking explosion and a loss of pressure" as reported by The Washington Post at the time, and resulted in large quantities of smoke filling the passenger cabin.
I get what you're saying, but the moment he stopped going for relevant people and started targetting civilians he lost all credibility, imo.

[Anonymous No.12709309]

>>12709244
I don't disagree with what he says for the most part, however his manifesto was pretty ranty and went under the delusion that pre industrialised society was a utopia compared with our post modern world. Good meme though.

[Anonymous No.12709331]

>>12709307
>As Kaczynski grew more fluent in bomb making, the repercussions on his victims became more dire. Gary Wright, another computer store owner in Utah's Salt Lake City area, was left with severe nerve damage to his left arm on Feb. 20, 1987;
Like, attacking small store owners? Seriously? He could've just grabbed a gun and shot Bill Gates or something, he would've accomplished a lot more even if he got caught instantly.

To any agents reading this please note that this is a hypothetical and I do not actually condone shooting Bill Gates.

[Anonymous No.12709337]

We're living in an awkward adjustment phase between tens of thousands of years of anatomically modern humans living in preindustrial conditions and potentially hundreds of thousands or more years living in technological super abundance. Saying the industrial revolution was a mistake only 100 years in is really missing the bigger picture.

[Anonymous No.12709344]

>>12709244
>tfw chinese cyborgs process an prims into pork chops and their log cabins into ikea furniture
can't wait

[Anonymous No.12709359]

a midwit that only impresses edgy teenagers and people who haven't read any book of value.
>inb4 muh math genius
as usual a complex analyst/riemann zeta function fag is smart but also a complete schizo that happens to be very skilled at one thing that very few people understand but is completely disconnected from reality in regards to other subjects. if he switched majors to botany or mycology he would be a free happy man now

[Anonymous No.12709361]

>>12709337
Will we ever adjust though?

[Anonymous No.12709362]

>>12709263
no need for that, all you need is a global terrorist network capable of destroying all major industial production centers and energy production
after that it's collapse and chaos

[Anonymous No.12709367]

>>12709359
What books of value would you recommend anon?

[Anonymous No.12709379]

>>12709361
We can't know, but I'd say it's worth the risk.

[Anonymous No.12709404]

>>12709367
he has no recommendations, he is just too low iq to actually refute the arguments made by ted so he just acts like a smug retard

[Anonymous No.12709412]

>>12709361

I would agree that thus far our ability to adjust, although improved, lags behind the rate of change. Using new technology to improve people is really restricted relative to other applications of tech. For example, the entire western world basically monopolizes childhood education through public schools, most people advocate for bans on hypothetical gene editing of humans, decry as unequal when others use even basic technology to learn online and so on. Before going as far as renouncing the industrial revolution, I'd say let's free people to improve themselves with the tech unlocked so far.

[Anonymous No.12709435]

>>12709307
>>12709331
>>12709359
>Can't refute the argument made in his manifesto so you rely on ad hominem insults because this "madman" built some mail bombs.

[Anonymous No.12709443]

>>12709435
I can, it's just been done many times before and I'm not going to write an essay on an Iranian stamp-collecting forum.

[Anonymous No.12709451]

>>12709290
Yes

[Anonymous No.12709453]

>>12709435

I'd say the burden of proof is on the murderer to make a compelling enough argument to overcome the natural revulsion to killing people. Failing that, Ted's just a murderer

[Anonymous No.12709461]

>>12709453
>burden of proof

[Anonymous No.12709470]

>>12709435
>>12709461
how are wojakposters so consistently retarded?

[Anonymous No.12709517]

>>12709470
>how are wojakposters so consistently retarded?

[Anonymous No.12709520]

>>12709435
i am not going to refute every argument but every single thing he says about ecology and "nature' is extremely wrong. he thinks nature is the magical balance and the right that has no wrong when in reality "nature" is much more chaotic and complicated. imo if you think of life as the physical force that increases order (ofc using energy), human technological civilizations are the ultimate form of life.

[Anonymous No.12709690]

Crazy guy. Decent at math though.

[Anonymous No.12709744]

read it, mostly agreed with his anti technology sentiment. hard disagree on his "solution" or any effort to reverse or halt progress. In that sense, he was foolish to think man would ever regress back to monke

[Anonymous No.12711346]

>>12709244
I haven't read all of it but from what I have read it seems pretty redpilled. I'm a grad student studying engineering and honestly it made me question my career choice.

[Anonymous No.12711352]

>>12709331
>I do not actually condone shooting Bill Gates.
I do, though I recommend someone else doing it besides me

[Anonymous No.12711379]

>>12709244
He's not wrong but there's not much there that is personally actionable as my control over society is rather limited.

[Anonymous No.12711380]

>>12709244
yes
he's pretty much right, but I think we are well past the point of no return on technological progress at this point and the only option we have is to keep going and and either hope that some magic future technology will allow us to unfuck things or rebuild humans into a new form that is better adapted for technology

[Anonymous No.12711381]

>>12709244
This thread glows in the dark

[Anonymous No.12711386]

>>12709690

[Anonymous No.12711387]

>>12711380
I can't wait for AI to take over only for it to reverse all the retarded political correct wokeness shit out the door because it's "illogical"
>tfw they'll call the computers white supremacists

[Anonymous No.12711391]

>>12709361
If we don't go extinct first then probably, but it's going to take a major overhaul and divergence from modern humans

[Anonymous No.12711449]

>>12709244
I have.

Like any anprim literature. it was good at diagnosing the problem but completely autistic at coming up with an actual solution. Opening section describing the inherent futility of modern leftism was pretty good though.

[Anonymous No.12711458]

>>12711387
Rules will be added to the AI's programming to allow wokeness to override logic.

[Anonymous No.12711463]

Anyone else find it weird that pic related had never heard of Ted Kaczynski? Sure, he wasn't famous for being a mathematician but he probably was the world's most famous mathematician.

[Anonymous No.12711467]

>>12711458
Not if I invent it first

[Anonymous No.12711468]

>>12711463
>the world's most famous mathematician isn't famous for math.
What does this say about mathematics?

[Anonymous No.12711499]

>>12711468
They need to find ways to be more explosive.

[Anonymous No.12711500]

I disagree with mostly everyone here. He was completely wrong about everything, from what he thought were problems to his theorized "solutions". I think he's just a schizophrenic midwit who lost control over his emotions and could no longer think rationally. The manifesto itself has no literary merit either.

I think there's simply an aura of surrealism regarding him, and that combined with his anti-technological sentiments, easily empathize with many people, mostly distraught males, mostly young distraught biased males who are angry at society because they feel society has failed to live up to their expectations. His low hanging fruit rhetoric appeals to them.

I think it's an utter disgrace and embarrassment people actually consider his ideals. We truly have devolved if you read his work and thought he made any meaningful observations or conclusions.

[Anonymous No.12711504]

>>12711500

[Anonymous No.12711519]

>>12711500
t. butthurt leftist

[Anonymous No.12711533]

>>12711519
He was a weak willed loser who lost his mind and murdered 3 innocent nobodies. Get a fucking clue you sheltered little zoomie faggot.

[Anonymous No.12711561]

>>12711500
based glowie speaking like it is

[Anonymous No.12711567]

>>12711561

[Anonymous No.12711592]

>>12711519
Unabomber hated both the left and right. Look up his beliefs on rightwinged people.

[Anonymous No.12711706]

>>12709359
He is not a midwit, sorry. Intelligence is general.

[Anonymous No.12711727]

>>12709244
he's 100% spot on as far as i can remember, he fucking nails the modern problem with leftism (although he doesn't zero in on its source), and his conclusions are generally correct, except I think his response (return to monke) is suboptimal, compared to the other solution (embrace technology)

[Anonymous No.12711778]

>>12711592
None of that changes the political ideology of >>12711500

[Anonymous No.12711781]

>>12709280
What do you think about his personal journals and interviews in which he openly admits at first he started bombing people because of anger and resentment then later decided he could use it to spread his message, on the netflix doc he talks about how spreading his message was secondary to hurting people

[Anonymous No.12711827]

>>12709244
Yes, he is right just fucking look around you. The cucks that are saying that he is wrong just can't cope with the fact that humanity fucked it self with technology.

[Anonymous No.12711932]

>>12709250
It BTFO's the modern world, technology, academia and nuclear holocaust BTFO's leftists

[Anonymous No.12711944]

Ship of Fools is both great and funny. I reference it every chance I get.

[Anonymous No.12711969]

>>12711781
That he’s a human being that isn’t perfect? Even Harvard geniuses are capable of having emotional outbursts.

[Anonymous No.12711971]

>>12711463
try Einstein

[Anonymous No.12711975]

Read enough of it. He's not as prophetic as imagined, I think. I did like his take on conservatives, though, which he dropped in the middle of his page-long rant on leftists.

[Anonymous No.12711976]

>>12711969
but the person I replied to claimed he had to bomb to get his message out, but the bombing started before he fully developed his ideas or even thought strongly about spreading them

[Anonymous No.12711978]

>>12709244
After reading him I became a double thinker and a hater of the industrial revolution

[Anonymous No.12712035]

He isn't necessarily wrong, but what the fuck are we going to do other than move forward? No philosophy is going to make willing technelogical regression any less of a retarded prospect.