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Is IQ the greatest scam in all of human history?
Times were better when people didn't obsess over one number

>> No.12699694

>>12699643
Definitely. I like being overconfident and delusional.

>> No.12699706

>>12699643
It's only psueds and /sci/ retards that obsess over it. Don't worry about it. Focus on improving your skills and working on shit you enjoy

>> No.12699716

>>12699706
anyone who thinks /sci/ "obsesses" over IQ is either autistic or retarded. I haven't seen someone claim that the IQ of an individual is the end all be all of their intelligence. when people refer to an individual IQ its as a figure of speech, a way to say someone is smart or dumb, usually in a humorous way. the only way you miss this is if you are too autistic for humor or too low IQ to comprehend figurative speech.

>> No.12699725

>>12699643
>Is IQ the greatest scam in all of human history?
religious belief is the greatest scam

>> No.12699726

>>12699716
> muh /sci/ is misunderstood!!! you're autistic!!

fuck off, retard

>> No.12699730
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>>12699643
Modern leftish philosophers tend to dismiss reason, science, objective reality and to insist that everything is culturally relative. It is true that one can ask serious questions about the foundations of scientific knowledge and about how, if at all, the concept of objective reality can be defined. But it is obvious that modern leftish philosophers are not simply cool-headed logicians systematically analyzing the foundations of knowledge. They are deeply involved emotionally in their attack on truth and reality. They attack these concepts because of their own psychological needs. For one thing, their attack is an outlet for hostility, and, to the extent that it is successful, it satisfies the drive for power. More importantly, the leftist hates science and rationality because they classify certain beliefs as true (i.e., successful, superior) and other beliefs as false (i.e., failed, inferior). The leftist’s feelings of inferiority run so deep that he cannot tolerate any classification of some things as successful or superior and other things as failed or inferior. This also underlies the rejection by many leftists of the concept of mental illness and of the utility of IQ tests. Leftists are antagonistic to genetic explanations of human abilities or behavior because such explanations tend to make some persons appear superior or inferior to others. Leftists prefer to give society the credit or blame for an individual’s ability or lack of it. Thus if a person is “inferior” it is not his fault, but society’s, because he has not been brought up properly.

>> No.12699739

>>12699643
Before I measured my IQ it was a scam. But I scored so high that I believe we should bas the entire value justice system and everything around this number.

>> No.12699760

>>12699726
i bet you also blame the right for why 4chan is bad.

>> No.12700275

>>12699643
Systematically destroying any attempts to act positively on the most pertinent information ever acquired about the human population (IQ, or more strongly, the g factor) is what led to such bad times.
The second most common vice of IQ is to assert it as an end-all be-all for personal individual achievement and overstate it in your own individual life as an excuse to not think hard or do anything. The most common vice is to pretend that it does not influence life outcomes of large groups on average.

>> No.12700279

>>12699730
He was pretty close for somebody trying to guess at what was happening in the 1970s, but all of the science denial turned out to be simple: "if it doesn't kiss brown butthole, it can't be considered true."

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12700297

>>12699643
> people obsess about their IQ
They don't. You're just insecure and need proof that you're not a loser, you're just misunderstood. No, you're a loser. No one cares

>> No.12700424

>>12700297
keep the bait coming

>> No.12700452

>>12699643
Human history is IQ.

>> No.12700658

>>12699643
The world would be a better place if people DID obsess over that number and based our policy on it. Imagine a world if the good guys won WW2.

Instead we are dooming the world because we allowed leftists to become a default power over humanity. Leftism is our great filter.

>> No.12700693

>>12700658
einstein supported socialism, that means it must work great and is awesome!

>> No.12700702

>>12699643
It is fine
Coronavirus caused me brain damage and literally slowed by reaction speed by 400ms.
Life is better as a retard.

>> No.12700854

IQ as measured currently just doesn't take in to consideration emotional intelligence as well as a person's values, morals, courage, independence and risk appetite.

Many a mid range IQ human has leveraged everything to start a business or follow a career trajectory that has paid off.

Success isn't correlated with IQ testing in it's current form. That's the bitter pill everyone needs to swallow. You can be an absolute genius in mom's basement jerking to anime because girls never wanted to fuck you.. or you can be a medium intelligence, tall chad working as a COO on 500kpa just because of the relationships you form or your families wealth.

IQ doesn't matter because we're not living in a meritocracy.

>> No.12700862

My IQ is 23.. and yet I typed this post with minimal effort. A seemingly flawless counterargument to the mediocrity that is "iq".

>> No.12700867

>>12699643
No one obsesses over IQ except this board.

>> No.12700881

>>12700854
>Success isn't correlated with IQ testing in it's current form.
Yes, it is you idiot. Just because IQ isn't the only deciding factor doesn't mean it has no effect. The effect of IQ is very large. But that doesn't mean an IQ disadvantage can't be overcome with work ethic. But what when the high IQ competition also has strong work ethics and morals?

>> No.12701058

>>12699643
>Is IQ the greatest scam in all of human history?
Depends what your IQ is. If it is low you will think it is (cough cough Taleb) if not, you will think it is legit.

>> No.12701070

>>12700854
>IQ as measured currently just doesn't take in to consideration emotional intelligence as well as a person's values, morals, courage, independence and risk appetite.
Maybe perhaps that's not what IQ was designed for?

What a bizarre statement. It's like saying "measuring a person's height does not take into consideration emotional intelligence"

>Success isn't correlated with IQ testing in it's current form.
Its not it's. And IQ measured at age 11 is the single best predictor for academic and economic success in life (even better than parents' SES). Kill yourself for spewing falsehoods.

>> No.12701074 [DELETED] 

>>12700297
The irony of this is that this same quote was said by someone with low IQ nobody would take it seriously.

>> No.12701091

Only idiots care about IQ, real world preformance is a much more important measure of potential. I have known plenty of 130 IQ slackers and 90 IQ business owners.
I also know a 140 that joined MENSA expecting to have interesting discussions only to find they were a pack of wankers more interested in wine tasting than talking about problems in their field.

Don't be anrgy at the world because you care about something no one else does.

>> No.12701093

>>12700297
The irony of this is that if this same quote was said by someone with low IQ nobody would take it seriously.

>> No.12701120

>>12699643
People weren't poisoned by iron back then. Which does increase verbal iq score for some reason, possibly because people learn to use "verbal reasoning" to compensate for their faulty thinking.