/sfg/ - Space Flight General: Martian Arrival Edition

[Anonymous No.12689255]

Previous: >>12686242

UAE Probe realtime: https://www.emiratesmarsmission.ae/track-the-hope-probe-live/

Perseverance realtime: https://mars.nasa.gov/news/8742/follow-nasas-perseverance-rover-in-real-time-on-its-way-to-mars/

Place your bets on which one will fail! Tianwen-1 or Perseverance

[Anonymous No.12689263]

Fuck boing and fuck urf

[Anonymous No.12689272]

What are you guys doing in KSP atm?

[Anonymous No.12689280]

i hope they all succeed.

[Anonymous No.12689285]

>>12689272
Making a Mir like station

[Anonymous No.12689286]

>>12689272
video games are not spaceflight
I'm currently looking at pictures of a water tower while listening to Komm Susser Todd and thinking about spaceplanes

[Anonymous No.12689291]

>>12689285
build an air-breathing SSTO with whiplash engines and call it a space station for the sweet contract money and then bring it back down ten minutes later

[Anonymous No.12689297]

What is the provisions weight, in food, water, supplements and disposable clothes per person for a 700 day Mars round trip? Is it 1-10 tonnes? 10-100 tonnes?

[Anonymous No.12689308]

>>12689285
Moldy?

[Anonymous No.12689315]

>>12689297
Depends on a huge amount of factors.

[Anonymous No.12689318]

>>12689315
What is the cargo weight of a one-way Mars mission per number of people carried? Not the body weight, the weight of internal cargo on it's own.

[Anonymous No.12689319]

>>12689297
>Round trip

NASA can front the funds if they want to bring their negronauts back

[Anonymous No.12689322]

>>12689318
A 747 weighs around 325 tons empty, so I'd assume more than that

[Anonymous No.12689329]

>>12689255
Now that NASA picked Falcon Heavy for staging the Gateway, what are we looking at for the rest of Artemis. IMO this means NASA is willing to use the starship for its program when it is finished.

[Anonymous No.12689330]

>>12689318
You are asking the same stupid question. How much extra fat do they have on them and can they do intermittent fasting to extend food supplies? How effective is your water recycler? How effective is your air scrubbing? What are you doing about black water waste? Are you growing microgreens en route? How much less comfort shit are your colonists willing to put up with?

[Anonymous No.12689347]

>>12689329
hopefully Artemis becomes The Starship Program Featuring Dynetics

[Anonymous No.12689352]

>>12689347
Yeah, no, Congress won't let that happen.

[Anonymous No.12689355]

>>12689329
Depends on who wins HLS IIRC. If the lander does not require an SLS to launch, then the only thing requiring SLS is Orion itself, which means Orion can be scrapped in favor of Starship, or even a fucking Dreamchaser on a three core Vulcan.

SLS is dead.

[Anonymous No.12689365]

>>12689352
huntsville gets to make surface habs
Texas gets to fuck around with surface habs
Utah gets to make ICBMs
I forget which other states are important

[Anonymous No.12689366]

>>12689365
Alabama has engine manufacturing even without SLS

[Anonymous No.12689368]

>>12689365
Nice coping but that's not how it works. You can't just tell all these SRB and hydromeme niggers to start building habs and shit. There is going to be serious problems at the congressional level sooner rather than later, muh jerbs is fucking real.

[Anonymous No.12689374]

>>12689368
no, the SRB guys are making ICBMs right now, they just got a huge fucking contract for that and don't need the NASA gibs currently

[Anonymous No.12689375]

>>12689347
>>12689352
>>12689355
Honestly i think oldspace knows they're dead. Starliner literally failed because they thought there was no way SpaceX could do the dragon for the price they offered. I think the SLS will have its 4 launches and then oldspace eill rake the taxpayers over the coals with ground tech like habs, rovers, excavators, 3d printers and other equipment.

[Anonymous No.12689380]

>>12689368
>muh jerbs is fucking real.
Yes but biden is cutting funding and there is no way NASA can afford the sls

[Anonymous No.12689386]

Any recommended RSS feeds for general space flight stuff?

[Anonymous No.12689390]

>>12689386
boards.4chan.org/sci/

[Anonymous No.12689394]

>>12689386
Run a Nitter instance and turn Elon's shitposting into an RSS feed.

[Anonymous No.12689398]

>>12689380
Biden is only cutting funding to racists and white supremacists like Elon Musk, America's most trusted contractors will of course receive the contracts they so truly deserve. But seriously

>giant mic contractors getting defunded

Literally will never, ever happen.

[Anonymous No.12689406]

>>12689398
They won't get defunded, their contracts just won't come from nasa for propulsion

[Anonymous No.12689410]

Please tell me SpaceX is looking at suits like pic related

[Anonymous No.12689412]

>>12689375
Are those 3D printed houses a serious thing? Do they offer good enough protection against radiation?

[Anonymous No.12689416]

>>12689412
>Are those 3D printed houses a serious thing?
oh boy here we go

[Anonymous No.12689417]

>>12689410
No, and it's a serious problem. Mars isn't happening with current levels of suit tech.

>>12689412
No, they are shit and you will fry in one. Elon has that one covered with tunnels though, the logical way to rapidly expand massive amounts of protected pressurised space.

[Anonymous No.12689418]

>>12689412
we get it, you print

[Anonymous No.12689421]

>>12689412
Oh no, newfag summoning the prooooonter.

[Anonymous No.12689423]

>>12689412
The composite material was supposedly blocking of radiation and the penn state design was counting on regolith thickness. The competition was to drum up design ideas and test what shapes worked well with the 3d printer. I doubt that'll be close to the final design but you can bet on NASA using printed habitats.

[Anonymous No.12689426]

i think, therefore i prooont

[Anonymous No.12689427]

>>12689417
Tunnels will only be used to connect habs and maybe for sleeping.
>>12689421
>>12689418
>>12689416
Printed habs are the future boys. Just let it happen.

[Anonymous No.12689430]

>>12689427
intricate network of swamp tunnels when

[Anonymous No.12689432]

>>12689410
I love how you can tell that suit is just a total photo op mockup piece of shit just by looking at the lines where the tensioning wires are. They should be at their most dense at the joints but are not. Also

>No vag/dick pressurised hard cup

Enjoy your genitalial blood blisters. Also wait are those motorbike gloves and boots? Lmao hand over the patents already you grant chasing fucks.

[Anonymous No.12689433]

>>12689427
WHY CANT WE JUST LIVE IN VANS LIKE OUR ANCESTORS?

[Anonymous No.12689434]

>>12689426

[Anonymous No.12689437]

>>12689430
Soon

[Anonymous No.12689439]

>>12689423
>The composite material was supposedly blocking of radiation

Must have been a pretty amazing super metamaterial that a few hundred mm is comparable to tens of metres of rock for shielding against GCRs.

[Anonymous No.12689447]

>>12689432
Shouldn't the design be public by now? Can't imagine they hold the patents

[Anonymous No.12689450]

>>12689416
It's the buttplug habitats time again.

[Anonymous No.12689455]

[Anonymous No.12689463]

>>12689455
Accurate

[Anonymous No.12689469]

>>12689329
It was all but certain that Falcon Heavy was going to launch the first Gateway module. I don't think anything has changed. Either way, Falcon Heavy will continue to play an important role in the Artemis program, since it's the launcher for Dragon XL.

[Anonymous No.12689472]

>>12689469
it's more official now that the contract is actually made, instead of it just being the only choice or whatever it was before

[Anonymous No.12689479]

Tianwen-1 should be arriving in Mars orbit in about 30 minutes.

Might be a stream here https://m.yangshipin.cn/video?type=0&vid=v000073fx6a

[Anonymous No.12689482]

>>12689479
>that music

[Anonymous No.12689483]

>Braking burn expected around 1200 UTC, but loss of signal, disappearing behind Mars, reacquisition and light time delay mean we might not know until ~1300 (estimates).
an hour of terror for the chinese. failure means death.

[Anonymous No.12689487]

>>12689482
have they launched an 80s space-based sitcom?

[Anonymous No.12689489]

>>12689439
>"The biopolymer-basalt derived material we have developed should provide effective cosmic radiation shielding due to its low atomic mass.”
>He also believes that they might enhance shielding by depositing ice between two layers of 3D-printed material but admits that they still have to validate these ideas with actual testing.

[Anonymous No.12689490]

>>12689479
>You must enable DRM to play some audio or video on this page.

[Anonymous No.12689493]

>>12689450
Its exciting man, the research those competitions are pushing forward is the only hab news we've had

[Anonymous No.12689494]

>>12689487
Tianwen-1 was filmed in front of a live studio audience.

[Anonymous No.12689499]

>>12689493
What is the objective, not easily replicable benefit of not having tons of actual fucking soil between you and radiation? Unless you actually have both atmosphere and magnetosphere worth shit?

[Anonymous No.12689500]

>>12689489
>should
>he also believes
>still have to validate these ideas with actual testing

And into the trash it goes. You can't replicate tens of metres of solid rock with some shitty polymers unless they are denser than fucking god.

[Anonymous No.12689509]

>>12689499
The objective is jerking themselves over muh pretty habitats and muh 3d printed Funko pop bullshit. Printing is pretty much the shittest of all habitat options. The proont nigger in this thread unironically advocates for growing acres and acres of corn ON MARS to render down and make some shitty polymer to proont a house because proonting can't actually use wholly in situ resources unlike any other option. Unreal.

[Anonymous No.12689515]

>>12689509
ah yeah I'm going to make acres and acres of underground cave farmland just so that I can proont myself some useless buttplugs

[Anonymous No.12689518]

>>12689515
Yes, the corn based polymer is essential to the radiation proof (citation needed) makeup of the buttplug.

It would be hilarious if the proont nigger didn't shill it so hard unironically.

[Anonymous No.12689531]

>>12689515
>ah yeah I'm going to make acres and acres of underground cave farmland
This would be cool if it were being used for growing food, or even bamboo for paper/wood.

[Anonymous No.12689543]

>>12689515
>live and farm underground anyway
>waste farmland on useless autism
By the time you can afford luxury like surface habitats, you will be able to trivially afford making two transparent domes with radii differing by several metres filled with tons of water.

[Anonymous No.12689549]

>>12689417
As much as I love super massive sprawling underground tunnel networks how the fuck are they gonna happen on Mars? Those boring machines are like ten times the payload of Starship, right? Am I just misremembering? If not, there's not really any feasible way of making use of them on Mars. You sure as hell aren't gonna be sending it piece by piece and putting it back together on Mars for a while. Even if it were, surely there's no way it would be more effective than just shipping habitats straight there, right?
Also anyone got pics of tunnel cities? Whether it be examples of real life mines or whatever turned into housing or diagrams of theoretical cities or colonies actually comprised of mostly tunnels.

[Anonymous No.12689557]

tianwen-1 insertion burn detected by amateur astronomers
https://twitter.com/ea4gpz/status/1359473544028172290

[Anonymous No.12689558]

>>12689549
There may be kilometer wide lava tube tunnels on Mars that only need to be sealed and pressurized.

https://phys.org/news/2020-08-lava-tubes-mars-moon-wide.html

[Anonymous No.12689561]

>>12689557
the front fell off
>>12689558
see: that fucking great hole they found recently.

[Anonymous No.12689568]

>>12689557
live stream here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1myQ5tIig0w

[Anonymous No.12689576]

>Loss of signal at @SternwarteBO at 12:13:50 UTC approx as the spacecraft has gone behind Mars. This is completely expected. The signal should return around 12:48 UTC.

[Anonymous No.12689578]

>>12689549
Do you know how they move those big machines around irl? They take them apart you tard and send them in pieces.

The same idea applies to Mars as they can just send multiple deliveries with the parts and then assemble it once it gets there.

[Anonymous No.12689579]

>>12689576
>12:49 UTC
>no signal

[Anonymous No.12689582]

the chinks failed :)

[Anonymous No.12689584]

>>12689582
I kinda wish they don't.
more cool pictures

[Anonymous No.12689592]

>>12689584
Feel like every country that sends something to Mars has to experience losing one probe, its kind of a ritual with that planet.

[Anonymous No.12689594]

They will do the inclination change at the first orbit?

[Anonymous No.12689599]

>>12689594
it's the best time to do it

[Anonymous No.12689600]

[Anonymous No.12689624]

next time someone should be live streaming a graphic like this

[Anonymous No.12689627]

Acqusition of signal confirmed in
@SternwarteBO
shortly after 12:48 UTC. The spacecraft is still using the low gain antenna.

[Anonymous No.12689628]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsv4hHigMFE
there's a live stream but nothing is happening

[Anonymous No.12689643]

>>12689557
Holy shit that's cool

[Anonymous No.12689646]

The chinks made it
I... kneel
Just fucking kidding congrats on doing something better nations did five decades ago lmao

[Anonymous No.12689649]

>>12689646
>too prideful to compliment another country for an achievement

[Anonymous No.12689655]

>>12689649
>chink post

[Anonymous No.12689658]

>>12689646

CHINA WILL GROW LARGER

[Anonymous No.12689666]

Elon is such a fucking retard buying the absolute top of the bitcoin trend

I hope it crashes so he can learn some fucking finance 101

/ End bizpost

[Anonymous No.12689669]

>>12689655
>inb4 ur n chink lol
Apparently no-one can compliment china without being a fully fledged fanboy of the CCP

[Anonymous No.12689671]

>>12689666
I'm pretty sure he's bad with money

Apparently in 2009 he only had 40 mil left when he was a billionaire in 2000

[Anonymous No.12689675]

>>12689666
satan plz

[Anonymous No.12689676]

>>12689666 (checked)
he bought in december, it only went public recently.
also stay poor salty nocoiner

[Anonymous No.12689677]

>>12689671
>lose billions
>become the worlds richest person and go down in history as one of the most important people of your time, changing the fate of human civilization forever
worth

[Anonymous No.12689679]

>>12689675
>THE being most known for deceit and selfishness
>not the ultimate authority on business and finance

[Anonymous No.12689683]

>>12689669
>Apparently no-one can compliment china without being a fully fledged fanboy of the CCP
Yes.

[Anonymous No.12689685]

>>12689683
kek

[Anonymous No.12689710]

>>12689649
if they land that'll be an achievement.

[Anonymous No.12689713]

>>12689649
Fuck other countries; China in particular. Elon Musk should shoot down their disgusting probes of evil

[Anonymous No.12689716]

>>12689713
>Fuck other countries; USA in particular. China should shoot down their disgusting probes of evil
silence dum dum

[Anonymous No.12689718]

>>12689716
Get your own space program, foreigner, and stay out of american airspace (the entire galaxy)

[Anonymous No.12689721]

>>12689718
american niggas really out here thinking elon is american

[Anonymous No.12689724]

>printed habs

[Anonymous No.12689731]

>>12689724
>you just know

[Anonymous No.12689734]

The American Perseverance/Ingenuity mission will arrive at Mars on Sunday.

[Anonymous No.12689736]

>>12689721
Elon is a US citizen and SpaceX is an American corporation. Elon has said on multiple occasions that America is the best country ever.

[Anonymous No.12689737]

>>12689721
>Febuary (African American History Month)
>Not respecting the most successful African American
get out racist

[Anonymous No.12689739]

>>12689736
weird that he want's to move to mars then

[Anonymous No.12689740]

>>12689734
Why would electronics need to be warm?

[Anonymous No.12689742]

>>12689739
he wants to export Americanism to Mars

[Anonymous No.12689746]

>>12689739
A SpaceX colony on Mars is a US colony

[Anonymous No.12689748]

>>12689739
America is the best nation on Earth because it's the only place you can build a rocket company that gets us off of Earth.

[Anonymous No.12689749]

>>12689742
god I hope not, the food requirements would go up several magnitudes of order

[Anonymous No.12689752]

BECOME AN ESA ASTRONAUT!

Requirements:
1. Being DIVERSE

Source:
>https://www.esa.int/Newsroom/Press_Releases/Call_for_media_ESA_seeks_new_astronauts_-_applications_open_31_March_2021

[Anonymous No.12689755]

[Anonymous No.12689764]

>>12689752
But why? Chinese seem to be already doing well enough with the soviet leftovers.

[Anonymous No.12689771]

>>12689734
This tacked on shit does fuckall we can't simulate with the data we have already.

[Anonymous No.12689772]

>>12689752
Diversity=anti-white racism

What happened to Europe?

[Anonymous No.12689773]

>>12689752
>"elo? uhhh I wud laik tu uhh becöm an äströnayt yes"
>"Ai em fröm uhhh french guiana yes?"
>"so were ar oll ze uhhh white women oui?"

[Anonymous No.12689774]

>>12689752
You also need to be from a country that funds the training part of ESA

[Anonymous No.12689776]

>>12689771
Simulations are bullshit, and the helicopter is to scout out locations for the rover to visit, and help it plot safer paths.

[Anonymous No.12689779]

>>12689740
to be comfy

[Anonymous No.12689782]

>>12689771
it's light and it's cool to bring a helicopter drone to another planet. Better than another fucking mole that we spend 18 months trying to get 6cm underground. At least this works or it doesn't and we move on.

[Anonymous No.12689787]

>>12689772
Can't b be racist against colonizing rapists

[Anonymous No.12689789]

>>12689752
Oh christ. Why can't we just stop trying to be relevant and keep export artisan cheeses and exotic escorts to the rest of the world.

[Anonymous No.12689792]

>>12689752
>as Europe enters a new era of space exploration.
A new era of being completely irrelevant and doing absolutely nothing of note, same as the last era really.

[Anonymous No.12689793]

>>12689734
It will enter Mars orbit first or will land directly?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzmd7RouGrM

[Anonymous No.12689794]

>>12689787
Colonialism ended several decades ago. You are trolling and not a leftoid.

[Anonymous No.12689795]

>>12689793
it lands on the 18th

[Anonymous No.12689796]

>>12689774
I'm surprised they are saying they are hiring now after 11 years, when the current astronauts don't fly at all. ESA has no manned ships of their own and only has the leftover seats from USA and Russia.

This is outright diversity-hiring because those Artemis seats probably must be diverse as per US requirement.

[Anonymous No.12689802]

>>12689482
That music is kino AF m8, I feel like I should be watching a circa 1993 technical presentation.

[Anonymous No.12689807]

I'm kindof hyped for gateway now that it's materialized. Maybe it'll be just a piece of junk orbiting the moon, but I'm hoping that once they're bought in they'll have a much harder time cutting and running. Government loves sunk cost fallacy.

[Anonymous No.12689809]

>>12689658
>CHINA WIRR GLOW RARGER
>>12689721

[Anonymous No.12689812]

>>12689375
Would have been funnier if the printing arm did a thumbs up at the end

[Anonymous No.12689815]

>>12689796
>when the current astronauts don't fly at all
But they do.

[Anonymous No.12689817]

>>12689734
lmao kekformers, tube gang already has infrastructure on mars

[Anonymous No.12689831]

>>12689792
ESA does things of note, just not manned spaceflight.

[Anonymous No.12689835]

>>12689815
The number of flights is pathetic:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_spaceflights,_2011%E2%80%93present

[Anonymous No.12689839]

>>12689835
>don't fly at all

[Anonymous No.12689851]

>>12689793
it goes directly into the atmosphere for landing

[Anonymous No.12689852]

>Boca road closures cancelled
Why even live bros
>>12689831
Redpill me on the Huygens lander. Was it only cool because it hitched a ride on Cassini and landed on Titan? Could JPL have built a better lander, or was Huygens good for the time

[Anonymous No.12689855]

>>12689752
They're not only wanting """diverse""" estronauts, but crippled ones, too.

[Anonymous No.12689857]

>>12689752
>but also perhaps physical disabilities. To make this dream a reality, alongside the astronaut recruitment I am launching the Parastronaut Feasibility Project
is this a fucking joke?

[Anonymous No.12689864]

>>12689857
I support Paras in space

[Anonymous No.12689869]

>>12689855
>>12689857
Jesus christ. I mean, it's nice in concept, there's gotta be people that are blind or deaf or whatever and have a great passion for space and becoming an astronaut, but isn't it a bit too early for sending basically dead-weights in space? Anyway, I wouldn't want to depend on a diversity hire not to fuck up docking in space and rip the whole spacecraft open.

[Anonymous No.12689875]

>>12689855
>>12689857
It'll be someone with two fused toes or some shit, something that won't really matter in space

[Anonymous No.12689876]

>>12689329
Falcon Heavy is a proven heavy lifter that, besides its reusable boosters, is largely conventional compared to the unproven Starship.

[Anonymous No.12689883]

>>12689855
Someone get me out of this shitty continent.

[Anonymous No.12689891]

>>12689852
>Was it only cool because it hitched a ride on Cassini and landed on Titan?
Would a Titan lander still be cool if it didn't land on Titan? I have no idea how to respond to that.
>Could JPL have built a better lander, or was Huygens good for the time
Huygens was highly constrained in mass, likely a US version would have looked much the same. Note that Cassini was very nearly cancelled because of budget problems, it's status as an international project was highlighted in it's defense There is a possibility that without ESA Cassini wouldn't have happened entirely.

[Anonymous No.12689897]

>Dragonfly: Launch date - 2027 [Planned]
JUST LAUNCH IT

[Anonymous No.12689928]

>>12689883
China doesn't have this problem.

[Anonymous No.12689933]

>>12689928
>holy shit, I'm so tired of this cancer
>here, have some AIDS instead

[Anonymous No.12689935]

>>12689928
>sell your wife to Mgumbo to cement african relations
>noo not in space though that'll never be us
lmao okay Zhang

[Anonymous No.12689943]

Anyone else thinking of donating to the inspiration4 raffle?

[Anonymous No.12689967]

Anyone here actually work for a space agency/contractor? Not a joke question, some of you lads must be madmen rocket scientists (as I am).

[Anonymous No.12689971]

>>12689855
>hey beter I'm stuck in this airlock I think my legs got caught on there

[Anonymous No.12689983]

>>12689967
I wash dishes. Someday I'd like to wash dishes on the moon. Someone's gonna have to do the washing, and the astronauts aren't going to want to do it. Put me in coach, I'm ready.

[Anonymous No.12689987]

wow, this is amazing!

[Anonymous No.12690000]

>>12689943
is it a raffle? I thought it was just whoever donated the most money

[Anonymous No.12690005]

>>12689987
>virgin "enter orbit and assess landing site"
>VS
>chad "just throw it at the site from here"

[Anonymous No.12690011]

>>12689375
>then oldspace eill rake the taxpayers over the coals with ground tech like habs, rovers, excavators, 3d printers and other equipment.

Nothing wrong with that as it opens the door to the CES equivalent of colonization were you have 10 companies offering just space suits such as power suits for construction, and fashionable pressure suits.

[Anonymous No.12690015]

>>12689855
fewer limbs = lower payloads. Very smart move

[Anonymous No.12690018]

static fire when?

[Anonymous No.12690019]

>>12690015
So legless women are the future of spaceflight?

[Anonymous No.12690025]

>>12689272
Not playing that piece of shit because the kraken yeeted my space station apart for like the 50th time for literally no fucking reason. I just load into my save and the thing just explodes.

Literally all I want from ksp2 is a more stable physics engine.

[Anonymous No.12690035]

>>12690019
well, you don't really need legs in 0g, do you?

[Anonymous No.12690039]

>>12690035
That's what I was thinking about, yeah. Guess I'll never become an astronaut.

[Anonymous No.12690043]

>>12690025
>use meme drive
>get memed

[Anonymous No.12690061]

>>12690043
What the fuck did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.12690084]

>>12690019
Women are useless anyway so we can get rid of the arms too to save weight for something that matters

[Anonymous No.12690100]

>>12689987
Is this a stock NASA photo or did the Chinese just take this with their orbiter?

[Anonymous No.12690110]

>I just love the idea of a martian colony with the exposed brick walls and the flashing street lights that make me feel like I'm in one of my favorite TV shows, I also just love the slow burn bone chilling gut wrenching atmospheric feel that makes me feel like I'm in a character development driven no jumpscare A24 film. I played Cyberpunk 2077 the other day and, WOW, I can't wait for megastructures with neon lights all over mars! It's just so aesthetic and reminds me of 80's sci fi (best decade, upvote). We must go there soon because climate change will get the best of us. Elon Muskirino will bring us there, he's modern-day Einstein, y'all.

[Anonymous No.12690113]

>>12689967
I work for a megacorp that has a space division, but it will be a VERY long time before putting programmers in orbit makes sense.

[Anonymous No.12690115]

>>12690110
But will the colony have a BarCade?

[Anonymous No.12690142]

>>12690113
Are you working at said space division?

I'm an EE/avionics guy who is currently doing some science shit with European Space Agency.

[Anonymous No.12690147]

>>12690025
If you are fast with the 2x time button you might save it. Time acceleration disables physics.

[Anonymous No.12690152]

It's over.

[Anonymous No.12690166]

>>12690152
You can't just kill the Soyuz

[Anonymous No.12690184]

>>12690152
>super heavy canceled
>reusable canceled
What if they're canceling both because they decided to combine the projects into their own Starship program?

[Anonymous No.12690187]

>>12689427
Martian masonry is where it’s at
Radiation protection, stackable and can make cool architectural styles out of it all for a brick packing machine and a crane
>>12689410
Armored hardsuits with close felled foam is the best we’ll get right now, pick related
>>12689297
>>12689330
Bioregenerative life support would be the way to go to lighten up on supplies
Shit would be recycled by a biodigester to grow methylococcus bacteria for fat and protein, microgreens could grow off piss and solid waste to recycle CO2 and water as a closed loop
If induced hibernation was better studied, that would make packing people on starship all the more simple for logistics

[Anonymous No.12690188]

>>12689928
>China's race to space domination

American journalists shamelessly demonizing another country for the #215082360th time

[Anonymous No.12690192]

>>12690115
Fuck, now we need Quark’s place on a Martian city

[Anonymous No.12690206]

>>12690166
2066: a ship consisting of soyuz capsules bolted to a NSWR makes the first manned trip to Neptune.

[Anonymous No.12690218]

>>12690188
>implying China's stated goal is not to dominate space

[Anonymous No.12690219]

>>12689928
is that the actual size of their rocket or just artistic [Spoiler]liberty[/Spoiler]

[Anonymous No.12690226]

>>12690084
TWU!

[Anonymous No.12690233]

>>12690218
link to statement?

[Anonymous No.12690236]

>>12690184

[Anonymous No.12690244]

>>12690152
kosmos blyat

[Anonymous No.12690264]

>>12690233
https://www.uscc.gov/sites/default/files/Research/USCC_China's%20Space%20Power%20Goals.pdf
What in the fuck did you think they were doing anon? They're not developing their space industry for fun.

[Anonymous No.12690270]

>>12689928

lol diversity loses again.

[Anonymous No.12690281]

>>12689928
>bugmen or wokeness
great options

[Anonymous No.12690286]

Why is it in Tim Dodd's nature to use at least one emoji per tweet. I don't understand

[Anonymous No.12690294]

>>12690286
who cares

[Anonymous No.12690295]

>>12690286
Soi is a helluva drug.

[Anonymous No.12690304]

>>12690286
Numale behavior

[Anonymous No.12690328]

>>12689855
Sometimes I feel bad when thinking about the current state of NASA but then I see ESA and feel a little better.

[Anonymous No.12690350]

>>12690294

[Anonymous No.12690359]

>>12690187
Hardsuits are definitely good for storing the life support systems inside. Combine that with the amount of tunnels being made on mars and we'll be having metroid IRL. All that's missing are the upgrades and the namesake alien.

[Anonymous No.12690370]

>>12689557
Damn, guess I can't call it a hoax.

[Anonymous No.12690378]

>>12690359
>to open the doors on mars you have to shoot them with the right projectile
AnCap paradise

[Anonymous No.12690390]

>>12690378
>Uh damn, you know how to open this green door, Jenkins?
>Stand back, son. *blasts it with an RPG* There. Now try opening it.
>*pulls out 9mm and fires* Hey, that worked, thanks.

[Anonymous No.12690482]

>>12689666
my financial advisor sam hyde told me bitcoin will go to $1 million

[Anonymous No.12690493]

>>12689852
the decision to go with electric battery power rather than a dedicated RTG was a huge mistake IDGAF what the tradeoffs were in terms of science payload mass. Even if the only things they could have fit alongside an RTG were a thermometer a barometer and a gas analyzer it would have been worth losing those pictures and shit to gain >10 years of ground level Titan climate and weather data.

[Anonymous No.12690494]

>>12690359
/sfg/ about to infiltrate the Blue Origin™ O'Neill cylinder

[Anonymous No.12690507]

>>12690482
If you could ever sell them or trade them.

[Anonymous No.12690522]

>repairs are underway on the landing pad
How long does it take to cure again?

[Anonymous No.12690523]

SLS that uses 4 Falcon 9s for the boosters instead of 2 SRBs. Could booster reusability be done (RTLS probably not, but droneships?) with it?

[Anonymous No.12690524]

>>12690493
Isn't it better to send a dedicated weather station then?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Station_Kurt

No offense, but I would rather not half-ass things as I'm the guy who advocates sending modular micro reactors & tunnel boring equipment. yeah you may get cabin fever with tunnels, but giving individuals large apartments beats living in a cuckpod for 30 years,

[Anonymous No.12690526]

>>12690522
when does boca chica start resembling cape canaveral

[Anonymous No.12690536]

>>12690526
When they figure out the design & manufacturing process to build hundreds of these. It's going be bigger than Canaveral because you need to be able to store them.

[Anonymous No.12690558]

>>12690522
>Reusable rockets
>Expendable launch and landing pads

[Anonymous No.12690565]

>>12690558
i just...

[Anonymous No.12690579]

>>12690493
I kind of agree with this but IIRC there were concerns over using up too much of Cassini's data stream for DL'ing long term data from Titan (and IIRC Casini had to be pointed in a specific way and in a specific orbit to relay Hyugens data anyways) so a long term Hyugens probe would have fucked with Casini's operations too much.

Also launching one RTG is a political nightmare as it is. Launching two RTG's on one spacecraft would have been even more headache.

Personally i'm just glad Hyugens was a thing at all, on any other mission it would have been replaced with some meme instrument of dubious usefulness for making the mission profile too complex.

[Anonymous No.12690582]

>>12690579
Cassini had 3 RTGs.

[Anonymous No.12690584]

>>12690582
Wait really? Somehow I never knew that.
You learn something new every day.

[Anonymous No.12690587]

>>12690584
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassini%E2%80%93Huygens#Plutonium_power_source
>Instead, the Cassini orbiter was powered by three GPHS-RTG radioisotope thermoelectric generators, which use heat from the decay of about 33 kg (73 lb) of plutonium-238 (in the form of plutonium dioxide) to generate direct current electricity via thermoelectrics.

[Anonymous No.12690594]

>>12690587
Yeah even just looking at the picture I noticed the 3 RTG's on the bottom next to the throosters.

I just never noticed/read about that before. Must have been a nightmare getting approval for that. I'm also kind of curious what 73lbs of p238 enriched to weapons grade p239 would yield in a nuclear detonation.

[Anonymous No.12690599]

>>12690587
>33 kg
Bruh what. Was that the most ever launched at once for one mission? How many kg's of radioactive material did the Voyagers use?

[Anonymous No.12690605]

>>12689855
ESA are just manned spaceflight LARPers.

[Anonymous No.12690613]

>>12690605
kek

[Anonymous No.12690619]

>>12690587
>Had there been any malfunction causing the probe to collide with the Earth, NASA's complete environmental impact study estimated that, in the worst case (with an acute angle of entry in which Cassini would gradually burn up), a significant fraction of the 33 kg[37] of plutonium-238 inside the RTGs would have been dispersed into the Earth's atmosphere so that up to five billion people (i.e. almost the entire terrestrial population) could have been exposed, causing up to an estimated 5,000 additional cancer deaths over the subsequent decades[58] (0.0005 per cent, i.e. a fraction 0.000005, of a billion cancer deaths expected anyway from other causes; the product is incorrectly calculated elsewhere[59] as 500,000 deaths).
Cassini-Huygens was a really cool mission. Too bad they had to cut down with the great, large, expensive projects to do anything with the shrinking budgets. Anyway, closest thing to significant spreading of radioactive material from orbit or during launches should be Kosmos 954, 50kg of U235 raining down on Canada.

[Anonymous No.12690620]

>>12690599
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MHW-RTG
Voyagers had 3 each stacked on each other on the power boom, so 13.5kg of Plutonium per probe.

The winners for sheer mass of fuel elements put into orbits are probably the orbital nuclear reactors launched during the cold war.

[Anonymous No.12690629]

>>12690594
So doing some napkin math here to answer my own question, its about 19kt per 1kg of weapons grade p239, so if Cassini had been made into a bomb it would have a yield of about 627kt. Assuming a perfect fission reaction it should be slightly bigger than IVY KING, pic related.

[Anonymous No.12690646]

>>12690629
RTG's are gay and wasteful, NASA should have developed proper nuclear reactors for space probes.

[Anonymous No.12690652]

>>12690646
how theoretically small can reactors be made? in the 50s they wanted to stick them in everything even cars, so presumably quite small. could one be made to power that boston dynamics dog for example.

[Anonymous No.12690656]

>>12690646
Current human nuclear reactors are basically just upscaled RTG's with slightly better efficiency anyways.

The problem has always been how to effectively transfer energy from the reaction into battery storage or into something that can be used and our current caveman tier answer is "lol heat water through turbines lol."

[Anonymous No.12690660]

>>12689255
>Martian Arrival Edition
starship design will crumble under its own weight?
if it topples, its fucked?

[Anonymous No.12690671]

>>12690656
>the problem has always been to effectively provide sitting surfaces for humans and our current caveman tier answer is “lol chairs”

[Anonymous No.12690673]

>>12690656
that's the most efficient way to do it

[Anonymous No.12690676]

>>12690671
Yes. Chairs are retarded. We should just be floating in zero G instead or using maglev repulsor belts in gravity wells to float around.

[Anonymous No.12690677]

>>12690656
Heating water to power turbines gets you a lot of energy tho. Name a better method

[Anonymous No.12690680]

>>12690656
there is literally nothing wrong with turbomachinery

[Anonymous No.12690690]

>>12690676
>lol why not just use magic
You are an absolute fucking retard. /x/ is you home.

[Anonymous No.12690693]

>>12690656
Can you explain what is caveman about it, or you just a "I motherf*cking love science!" brainlet?

[Anonymous No.12690696]

>>12690680

[Anonymous No.12690697]

>>12690690
Seething chairlet

[Anonymous No.12690706]

RTG brainlet here with a dumb question. All the diagrams for RTG's I have seen list a 'thermocouple' layer, and typically describe it as being able to "convert thermal energy directly into electrical energy, using the Seebeck effect."
Why the fuck can't we just throw thermocouples into nuclear reactors instead of powering water-turbine systems? Are they inefficient or something?

[Anonymous No.12690713]

>>12690579
>Also launching one RTG is a political nightmare as it is. Launching two RTG's on one spacecraft would have been even more headache.
People always say this but when was the last time you turned on CNN/Fox/MSNBC to see them whinging about a probe design incorporating an RTG? Their braindead audience would turn the thing off before they finished explaining what an RTG is.
I dont even remember that much kvetching over the Cassini probe having them.

[Anonymous No.12690716]

>>12690706
very inefficient.

[Anonymous No.12690718]

>>12690706
>Seebeck effect
You need a large temperature difference in order for this to work, fine in space but not so much in our atmosphere.

[Anonymous No.12690722]

>>12690706
Very inefficient. I think the maximum conversion efficiency is like 10% thermal to electrical, and radiation damages them, reducing their efficiency further. Turbines for reactors on the other hand are like 33-36% efficient, Thermal to electrical wise. A proper modern Gen4 design could reach 45% Thermal to electrical.

[Anonymous No.12690723]

>>12690660
Yes, starships can't be stored horizontally on earth, that's why they're built and stacked vertically.

[Anonymous No.12690726]

>>12690713
No the opposition to RTG's is more political than a public policy debate type thing. You have to get Russia and China on board with it (along with a bunch of other irrelevant countries) because an RTG technically counts as a nuclear weapon or whatever the fuck and that makes diplomats nervous. Also as >>12690619
pointed out there are serious ramifications if the launch fails and you dump radioactive material all over everyone.

[Anonymous No.12690736]

Interesting. This confirms Starship is designed first and foremost with optimal performance in mind while more or less accepting that the engineering challenges involved will be extreme. Same thing with raptor development:
>During one of these meetings with the Raptor engine team, Musk was pushing back on a decision his team wanted to make that would fractionally reduce the specific impulse (ISP) of the engine
>"That is why we fight for mass, and we fight for every fraction of a second of ISP," he told his team at one point. "Especially with a reusable upper stage, which nobody has ever succeeded in. Just FYI.
>As he delivered this little speech to his engineers, Musk's mood steadily mellowed. Soon, he was joking with the team. His point had been made. Yes, he understood what he was asking of them. It was damned hard. It would hurt their brains. It hurt his. But they had no choice but to push through the engineering challenges.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/02/as-starships-crash-understand-this-is-a-stupidly-difficult-thing-to-do/

[Anonymous No.12690745]

>>12690660
Starship won't crumple on earth. Why would it crumple on a planet with 62% less gravity?
>if it topples, its fucked?
Most likely. Though SN9 did survive its ordeal with little damage

[Anonymous No.12690747]

Please tell me there won’t be disgusting tranny shit in outer space

[Anonymous No.12690748]

Why use an RTG when you can use a Quantized Inertia Reactor

[Anonymous No.12690749]

>>12690736
wonder if they'll row back on the 500m flip for the human rated version. bearing in mind they dropped propulsive landing from crew dragon and went with the much more difficult parachute landing because it was deemed too risky.

[Anonymous No.12690752]

>>12690747

[Anonymous No.12690753]

>>12690736
Fugg that is some complicated stuff. I do hope they can pull it off in a timely manner.

[Anonymous No.12690755]

>>12690747
It will be exclusively trannies in space.

[Anonymous No.12690762]

>>12690748
why use a quantized inertia reactor when you can use a Iscandarian wave motion engine?

[Anonymous No.12690765]

>>12690747

[Anonymous No.12690776]

>>12690762
>he hasn't built his own perpetual motion machine out of magnets and skateboard wheels
the state of you

[Anonymous No.12690777]

>>12690749
I suspect that they'll at least have an abort system. They'll probably sacrifice performance for safety in some areas. May mean that more optimized cargo starships are necessary but that should be fine.

[Anonymous No.12690778]

>>12690752
Sorry I saw some tranny shit on the news about how women now have to compete with men

[Anonymous No.12690779]

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[Anonymous No.12690780]

>>12690723
Does the NASA & Dream-Catcher space shuttles also structurally crumble the same way?

[Anonymous No.12690792]

>>12690777
thats what i was thinking. crew starship with just crew and basic supplies for the trip. everything else goes in a cargo version that they can afford to lose. fuck knows how an abort system would work on one though.

[Anonymous No.12690794]

>>12690765
Artemis will carry the perfect progressive trifecta:
>a wymin
>a ratialized person
>an LGTBIQWERTY person

[Anonymous No.12690795]

>>12690779

[Anonymous No.12690804]

>>12690745
>SN9 did survive its ordeal with little damage
it blew up
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/02/spacex-starship-sn9-explodes-on-attempted-landing.html

[Anonymous No.12690806]

>>12690706
Shit efficiency, and the traditional materials don't like high temperatures or radiation although there is some research on stuff that might be a bit better there

[Anonymous No.12690808]

>>12690804
the tip you dum dum

[Anonymous No.12690809]

>>12690804
Not in the high bay, blowing up in the high bay would have been bad

[Anonymous No.12690810]

>>12690779
WHAT ARE YOU DOING DON'T OVERRIDE THE BULKHEADS!

[Anonymous No.12690811]

>>12690804
You utter halfwit.

[Anonymous No.12690812]

>>12690779
>when the ship's adeptus forgets to engage the Gellar field before warp
You made a fucky wucky

[Anonymous No.12690814]

>>12690792
exactly. A decked-out, armored, hyper-safe human starship would be ideal. Hell, maybe they could even dock with cargo starships in-flight if they needed more supplies.
>fuck knows how an abort system would work on one though
yeah that's not easy. Have the crew module in its own armored capsule that can be ejected?

[Anonymous No.12690815]

>>12690779
French fried when you should've Pizza'd

[Anonymous No.12690827]

>>12690779
>forward Assault Prison Barge

[Anonymous No.12690833]

>>12690814
the fan renders of crew interior are way off. exercise bikes and loads of rec room etc like they'll be travelling to mars in a tesla rv. it'll be your bunk (which is also you launch/land seat), the mess, a hygiene station some resistive weight machine made out of rubber bands bolted to the wall, and maybe if you're lucky a radiation shielded room. everything else with be mre's.

[Anonymous No.12690838]

>>12690833
Daily reminder that exercise bikes
DO. NOT. WORK. FOR. PREVENTING. MUSCLE. AND. BONE. ATROPHY

ONLY WEIGHT LIFTING DOES

[Anonymous No.12690839]

Uh bros, what the hell is China gonna do when they eventually decide to build a human lander for the Moon? There isn't exactly any designs to buy like what they did with Soyuz? Will they design one from scratch? Kek will they buy the schematics for the LK lander?

[Anonymous No.12690849]

>>12690809 >>12690811
>the tip you dum dum
thats still supporting weight force on its base.
much less force is on the wall.
the angle is too steep.
thats not shifting the weight off the structural base enough.
>>12690811
draw the vector & prove more force is acting on the wall than on the support-base, numb-nuts.
thats not a fall, its a tilted rest.

[Anonymous No.12690850]

>>12690839
Lmao I can definitely see them going with the LK design

[Anonymous No.12690851]

>>12690839
steal the ip from american companies like they do with everything else?

[Anonymous No.12690853]

>>12690838
>>12690833

To be fair, you will need a good combination of weight lifting and cardio to both counteract atrophy and maintain a healthy amount of stamina.

[Anonymous No.12690857]

Last thread died. I asked for any suggestions/errors on my Saturn V illustration for an animation im trying to make.
>add CSM engine.
done, ill try adding more detail to the csm next.
>the interstage walls for the first stage in the upper version.
what do you mean by upper version?
>i think the common dome goes the other way on the S-II nd S-IVB
are you sure? im following some shitty google images so idk but i think they are the correct.
>swap the LOx and LH2 around.
holy fuck you are right, what a mistake, I thought that LOX was the bigger tank in every stage, I guess thats not the case when using LH2 as its not dense.
>make it more obvios that the walls of the propellant takns are the same as the walls of the vehicle itself.
done.
>nigger learn to screenshot.
sorry, heres a screenshot of the updated version.

[Anonymous No.12690859]

>>12690839
>will they buy the schematics for the LK lander?
To its credit the LK was the only element of the Soviet Moonshot that was successfully tested several times in orbit and declared safe for crew

[Anonymous No.12690861]

>>12690839
You can save a whole bunch of extra mass if you don't plan on re-launching off of the moon after arriving.
>>12690849
>doublequoting

[Anonymous No.12690868]

>>12690810

[Anonymous No.12690869]

>>12690857
Meant the see-through version on the top of the image

[Anonymous No.12690873]

>>12690861
>>doublequoting
used the wrong math , bruh.

[Anonymous No.12690877]

>>12690839
>Will they design one from scratch?
>China

[Anonymous No.12690878]

>>12690853
The same is true on Earth

[Anonymous No.12690886]

>>12690808
>the tip you dum dum >>12690849

[Anonymous No.12690888]

>>12690839
The Chinese lunar base will be glorious.

[Anonymous No.12690891]

Nobody be alarmed, but there's a rampaging retard among us itt.

[Anonymous No.12690892]

>>12690857
Make the colors fucking consistent. All LOX should be the same

[Anonymous No.12690893]

>>12690868
>Mantis crew teleports aboard

[Anonymous No.12690896]

>>12690888
Checked and based. They are sending a 3D printer to the Moon in 2027

[Anonymous No.12690898]

>>12690892
lmao youre right, i fucked it up switching between LOX and LH2 and forgot to switch the colors.

[Anonymous No.12690899]

will people living in space evolve quicker because of radiation exposure? I'd be interested in seeing if anyone has ever done any studies on the rate of genome change related to ambient radiation.

[Anonymous No.12690901]

>>12690891
>just got ass rimmed.

[Anonymous No.12690902]

>>12690838
What about e-stims?

[Anonymous No.12690903]

Boeing

[Anonymous No.12690905]

>Russia may also look to develop closer ties with China in human spaceflight,[24] and even shift its human spaceflight cooperation from the US to China and build a crewed lunar lander.
KEK I can't wait

[Anonymous No.12690906]

>>12690903
>boing

[Anonymous No.12690909]

>>12690902
Grift even on earth. Go the fuck outside, fatass.

[Anonymous No.12690911]

>>12690902
>mi vida loca
fucking cringe

[Anonymous No.12690915]

>>12689509
>>12689515
Show me the data where you need that much thickness for shielding

[Anonymous No.12690917]

>>12690901
>ass rimmed
well as long as you brush afterwards because I don't wipe

[Anonymous No.12690922]

>>12689500
>You can't replicate tens of metres of solid rock with some shitty polymers unless they are denser than fucking god.
Again we don't know that until we test it.

[Anonymous No.12690924]

>>12690902
the guy they photoshopped them onto has never used them in his life

[Anonymous No.12690926]

>>12690906
This right here is the EXACT moment old space realised their irrelevancy.

[Anonymous No.12690928]

>>12690922
Literal cope

[Anonymous No.12690931]

>>12690878

Yeah but it is far more important in space than it is on Earth. Here you have at least a constant battle against gravity when you are moving around, giving you automaticaly a bit of cardio and perpetual maintainance of muscle+bone mass.

In space, moving around is so easy, atrophy sets in AND there is a loss of stamina.

So Starship requires treadmills/bikes and a multifunctional all in one machine to hit all major muscle group area's by enabling overhead and bench presses, squats and deadlifts, rows and curling. Rubber bands are a meme and arent sufficient in that regard.

[Anonymous No.12690932]

Be honest, will humans be on Mars by 2026?

[Anonymous No.12690935]

>>12690932
No, but they will before 2030

[Anonymous No.12690937]

>>12690906
What was wrong with Northrop's management plan? Seems like a weird place to pick up a significant weakness.

[Anonymous No.12690938]

>>12690917
>closest ever been to sex
if you practiced personal hygiene you'd have a gf by now.
sorry, I'm not into shit stain niggas.

[Anonymous No.12690940]

>>12690932
Call this a cope but I don't really care if it slips into the 30's. As long as they are at least putting shit on the Moon, and launching tests to Mars and stuff, my autism will be satisfied.
For comparison if SpaceX didn't exist we wouldn't get a NASA landing on Mars until at least 2050 or 2060. And the Chinese won't get human boots on the Moon until the 2040's

[Anonymous No.12690953]

>>12690932
What do you mean we won't be on mars by 2026? Of course we'll be on mars by 2030! What kind of idiot would doubt that we could get to mars by 2050!?

[Anonymous No.12690954]

>>12690795
I read that as "BASEDROCKETING"
>>12690809
>blowing up in the high bay
That would be hard without any fuel loaded.

[Anonymous No.12690956]

>>12690954
>"S O Y ROCKETING"
really? the version with a zero is in the filter? must be a caps-only thing

[Anonymous No.12690958]

>>12690931
>So Starship requires treadmills/bike

Nope, just run around the circumference. The best part is no part.

[Anonymous No.12690960]

>>12690956
>soyuz capsules launched on soyuz rockets from the soyuz launch complex at gagarin's start

[Anonymous No.12690964]

>>12690932
unlikley. Starship has a fuckton of engineering hurdles ahead of it. We may send an experimental cargo ship to mars by then though.

[Anonymous No.12690973]

>>12690960
kinda sad they fixed the baseduz filter desu

[Anonymous No.12690976]

>>12690973
Newfag alert

[Anonymous No.12690977]

https://youtu.be/iqRRWse9DaY
The Power of African American Leadership in NASA

You are not white, are you?

[Anonymous No.12690978]

Hey bros
Found a bunch of astrology books from mid-50’s to 60’s with a bunch of local newspaper articles from the time.
Decided to share some of the interesting things from the past.
Translated: ”The moon isn’t one colour. Moscow 19.5.59 The moon isn’t monochrome like some scientist believe, but we can see different colours like red, brown, yellow, green and blue in all shades, mentiones the leader of Harkov observatory, professor Nikolai Barabashov. ”
”He rejects the theory of the lunar surface being buried under a layer of volcanic ash and cosmic dust. Instead on the surface of this celestial body would be a layer of sand a few centimetres thick.
Even in the small craters of the moon, whose radius would be less than 50km we can observe different colours. The walls of the crater are reddish, but on the bottom we can see touches of blueish green, the professor states.”

[Anonymous No.12690983]

>>12690935
>be 2029
>Look on your iPhone 20 (now with 8 cameras)
>Read the Global Times as you do every day
>"SpaceX defunct due to lack of funding from President Harris"
>You suddenly remember...
>Oh yeah, we were supposed to have colonies on Mars by now
>Return back to packing your box (singular)
>In the middle of moving into your new pod, preparing for next year

[Anonymous No.12690986]

>>12690978
hate how phone images are fucked

[Anonymous No.12690994]

>>12690983
Why do some anons love writing these doomer fan-fics?

[Anonymous No.12690995]

>>12690839
Steal the designs from BO/LM/Dynetics/SpaceX and get technical help from ESA and/or Roscomos.

[Anonymous No.12691000]

>>12690994
Take a reality check on politics.

[Anonymous No.12691001]

>>12690976
no, I did that one manually

soyuz baseduz soyuz baseduz

[Anonymous No.12691002]

>>12690997
>>12690997
>>12690997
thread staged due to bump limit

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>>12690994
Many anons are doomers

[Anonymous No.12691008]

>>12691000
No u

[Anonymous No.12691010]

>>12690994
>fanfics
You WILL eat the bugs.

[Anonymous No.12691011]

>>12691002

Fucking newfag, do you have any idea how long this thread will still last?

[Anonymous No.12691014]

>>12691002
IT IS ON PAGE TWO YOU FUCKING FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.12691021]

MODS
>>12691002
>>12690997

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>>12689255
I imagine myself on the moon, leading my Platoon. Our mission is to stop whTe dogs from advancing. We mow down whTe dogs but they keep coming. I shoot whTe dogs but I run out of ammo so I draw my sword and begin slaughtering whTes, since whTes are way more psychially inferior to me, I slay them by dozens. Then I get shot, but I didn't fall, I kept fighting. Then shot again and again. whTes were shooting me from a distance like the cowards they are. I lie down, facing up to the black sky and I see KARA BOĞA (Tengri) smiling at me, I smile back… Then I woke up, in africa, my homeland. My BLACK brethen gave me a warm welcome to heaven. I finally made it, I finally made it into heaven..

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>>12691002
Are you fucking kidding me

[Anonymous No.12691029]

>>12691002
BASED

[Anonymous No.12691035]

>>12691027
Welcome to the new normal friend. This once comfy thread is now being flooded with newfags, redditors, normies and furries.

[Anonymous No.12691036]

>>12690978
>>12690986
nice. This is interesting stuff.

[Anonymous No.12691038]

Report the other thread for trolling and let jannies clean it up. This is their job and they do it for free.

[Anonymous No.12691039]

if you early post in the dumb early threads you're just as bad as the dumb OP who makes them

facts

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>>12691039
Yes agreed

[Anonymous No.12691053]

Also found a clipping for this;
Mars moving closer to earth, but here mars is described as a star rather than a planet
Translated: "EARTH PASSES THE WARGODS STAR"
"Earths nearest neighbor Mars is currently approaching earth, and on the 7th of september it'll be "only" 56 million kilometres away. The next time it'll be as close will be in fifteen years. Scientist all around the globe are ready with modern experiments to measure and photograph the rays coming form Mars and it's white coloured polar regions

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>>12689499
>What is the objective, not easily replicable benefit of not having tons of actual fucking soil between you and radiation?
The benefit is making a hab prior to arriving. They will be testing radiation shielding but they've only done 3 parts of the competition so far.

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>>12689787
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Invasions_of_Europe

[Anonymous No.12691062]

>>12690994
Because it’s the reality coming for us