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>> No.12677229
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First for underwater colonies on Mars, Europa, and Enceladus.

>> No.12677252
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Second for we are the precursor race and building megastructures for shits and giggles

>> No.12677255

>>12677229
You'll die in a few days hanging around Europa.
Hopefully you've dug through the few km of ice in advance.

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>> No.12677260

>>12677252
ringworlds wouldn't have a horizon like that would they? wouldn't it just be continuous?

>> No.12677261

Will SN10 make it?
Or will another vid like https://youtu.be/hR6DATfX7kI lurk in the future?

>> No.12677266

>>12677260
there's a big wave coming at you

>> No.12677269

>>12677252
would be cool to work on such a project

>> No.12677274

>>12677255
>Hopefully you've dug through the few km of ice in advance.
Lithobraking with purpose!

>> No.12677278

>>12677258
chernobyl rockets when?

>> No.12677283

>>12677278
which form of Chernobyl drive were you thinking of?

>> No.12677304

>>12677283
the one that makes big boom cushioned by water

>> No.12677308
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>>12677269
>get an award for designing fjords on a ringworld

>> No.12677312

>>12677304
ah, a NSWR afficionado. remember, no sniffing allowed
I'm a fan of pulsed fission myself, less fission daughter products in the exhaust, you understand?

>> No.12677316

>>12677312
>less fission daughter products in the exhaust
but that's part of the fun

>> No.12677318

>>12677316
NO
SNIFFING
ALLOWED

>> No.12677321

why havent we started building ai controlled platforms in space yet

>> No.12677326
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>> No.12677327

>>12677321
you can't just say "AI" and then have it instantly solve all of your problems

>> No.12677329

>>12677252
You're not a true Class III civilization until you've rearranged a star cluster to represent a meme. Imagine ten thousand worlds each developing spacefaring civilization and realizing that one of their most beloved constellations was goatse.

>> No.12677331

>>12677255
You land in a crack.

>> No.12677333

>>12677321
That's literally what satellites are. People in the 50s expected massive manned spingrav stations because computers were less effective than men on a mass and power basis.

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>>12677326

>> No.12677337
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>>12677329
>shift an entire group of stars to look like a gigantic cock in the skies of countless planets
>other alien civilizations don't get it because their reproductive organs look completely different to our own
Fug :DDDD

>> No.12677338

>>12677327
what if I throw in machine learning and neural network, is that enough buzzwords?

>> No.12677349

>>12677337
it's okay, we know what it means

>> No.12677355

>>12677337
>The Orion Nebula was Japanese ayys forcing a star to go nova for pixel blurring his dick

>> No.12677361

>>12677321
There was news last week or the week before about the Pentagon pushing for more AI in satellites.
https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2021/01/military-eyes-ai-cloud-computing-space-decade/171692/

Didn't read it because it sounded like one of those hype pieces with little substance, but it just goes to show that there are people pushing for expanded AI roles in the future.

>> No.12677365

>>12677337
Following this logic there may be an alien wang in the sky already but we just haven't realised it

>> No.12677367

>>12677365
there are multiple penises carved on Mars
I'm not sure about Luna

>> No.12677373

>>12677365
I suddenly understand the real meaning of the zodiac!

>> No.12677375

>>12677361
>>12677327
i dont mean AI as in some pop-sci tv program.
i mean a platform to dock to like the ISS which accumulates fuel/rations/batteries/water etc

>> No.12677377

>>12677375
that sounds suspiciously like a depot to me, anon
you shouldn't talk any more about that, you'll rile up congress

>> No.12677388

SN10 launch when?

>> No.12677391
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>> No.12677424

>>12677255
Why is being near Jupiter dangerous again?

>> No.12677446

>>12677424
orbit's closed due to AIDS

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>>12677391
>tubes

>> No.12677469

http://www.venusaero.com/

interesting. This is a company focused specifically on E2E applications. They seem to imply that they're using an areospike too.

>> No.12677474

>>12677469
niiiiiiice

>> No.12677479
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https://youtu.be/05QJlF06F4s

>> No.12677520

>>12677424
radiation

>> No.12677529

>>12677520
You mean like solar radiation being caught by Jupiter's massive magnetic field, or does it directly emit radiation?

>> No.12677561

>>12677529
yes

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>>12677529
Ionized volcanic ejecta is not good for you.

>> No.12677573

>>12677479
The PR teams behind spaceX and tesla are probably suicidal with musk shitting all over twitter all the time.

>> No.12677605
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>>12677260
If the ring were large enough there could sort of appear to be a horizon, because past a certain distance atmospheric scattering would obscure your view. As the ring curved up and away enough you'd be looking at it through less atmosphere so it would be highly visible.

Beyond a certain distance (depending on the atmosphere) it the surface and sky would appear to blend together into a fog. Then you'd see the distant curve of the ring emerging above the fog as it reached high enough in the sky that you were viewing it through less atmosphere.
Kind of like pic related but over a much larger distance.

>> No.12677633

>>12677573
there are no pr teams afaik

>> No.12677700

>>12677479
>007 は二度死ぬ
Why the japanese title says he dies two times instead?

>> No.12677707

>>12677700
I guess it means the same thing, in a roundabout way.

>> No.12677721

>>12677573
What PR team? Lmao tesla or team was dissolved a year ago

>> No.12677723

>>12677633
Billion dollar companies need a PR team.
But no company needs HR, HR and all people who work in HR are a blight on modern society.

>> No.12677764
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Are we going to see more commercial space stations get proposed now that private space flights are a thing? Is Bigelow ever coming back?

>> No.12677773

>>12677764
I hope Bigelow comes back, but SNC might end up taking over the inflatables business. But who knows, they may come back and have some nice competition.

>> No.12677791

>>12677773
>SNC builds crewed Dream Chaser exclusively for their station out of spite for NASA

>> No.12677822

>>12677791
>imyplying that crewed Dream Chaser is not going to become the main spacecraft of USSF

>> No.12677850

>>12677822
>Space Force prefers winged spacecraft
>military wants to use the Dream Chaser's cargo bay as a space station
The Dream Chaser is probably the natural pick for the USSF, but Starship is around the corner. But since the military prefers having two launch providers, then maybe they'll prefer having two spacecraft, supporting both the Dream Chaser and Starship?

>> No.12677856

>>12677850
kys

>> No.12677943

>>12677764
Axiom will probably get a nice boost in investment once they do their first mission, which should help with building that station of theirs. Others may follow, potentially going for a simpler and quicker design

>> No.12677959

>>12677943
>thinking axiom is anything else then another oldspace scam to suck more taxmoney out of the taxpayer pocket.
Seriously, name me one thing this company has achieved so far.
Actaully achieved, not planned in the distant future or some CGI clip about how they are going to build their own spacestation.
I dont get this blind trust in axiom here on /sfg/...

>> No.12677989

>>12677764
didn't the bigelow guy go full schizo and forget about space

>> No.12677996

>>12677989

I think he laid off the entire company because of covid

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>>12677764
Realistically, there is only room for one or two commercial space stations in the market right now considering the only use for them is millionaires dicking around. And with ISS being opened up for more commercial use that might not happen as quickly

>> No.12678017

>>12677996
kek. he's shifted his work to trying to prove that there is an afterlife

>> No.12678060

>>12678001
Thats because launch costs are so fucking high. Starship will completely change that.

>> No.12678074
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it might get pretty cold in boca chica

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>>12678074

>> No.12678083

>>12678074
How cold in non-retarded units?

>> No.12678090

>>12678083
I think -32 Fahrenheit is 0 Celsius, but FUCK Fahrenheit

>> No.12678095

>>12678083
Assuming the average high temperature in boca chica is 18 degrees Celsius in winter, it might go down to around -1 degrees celsius. Of course thats nothing considering a large portion of the united states will probably be going below -34 celsius with potential lows of -45 celsius, but still -1 degrees celsius (or 30 degrees for americans) is very cold for boca chica.

>> No.12678097

>>12678083
>>12678090
You know you could actually look that up quite easily in this current age

>> No.12678098

>>12678090
The purple made it seem like the local -32c.
0c? Cold?

Are you fucking kidding me?

>> No.12678107

>>12678074
>>12678076
What the fuck is this even showing? What is "2m Temperature Anomaly"?
I'm in Texas and it looks like temperature is above average until Friday, then it's below average for a few more days.

>> No.12678120

>>12678098
For wyoming, nebraska, minnesota, south dakota, and iowa the high temperatures for this time of the year are around 20 usually (-6 celsius). Remember, this is the average high temperature BEFORE you take into account 40-50 degrees fahrenheit below normal temperatures moving into those regions.

>> No.12678124

>>12678107
This is a week from now I think, its showing the temperature "anomaly" or difference from usual.

>> No.12678128

>>12678120
So it's gonna be around -30F in those states? Funny because at that point F and C are very close.

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>>12678124
Oh now I see there's a second date. Confusing as hell, but still not as retarded as this graph... tell me guys, what do the blue bars represent? Those temperatures that aren't even centered on their axis lines are stupid too.
All I can see is that it's differential from the previous day's high, and that doesn't even happen on the 14th.

>> No.12678150

>>12678097
They could sure but then they wouldn't get to be bitches

>> No.12678152

>>12678128
Possibly yeah

>> No.12678155

>>12677229
>underwater
>mars
¿by that you meant underground igloos?

>> No.12678166

>>12677564
WTF is that a bio-dome on Io's north pole? ayys confirmed?

>> No.12678171

>>12678166
That's not a dome, it's an eruption you twat.

>> No.12678178

>>12677989
Some say he's now living out of inflatables in the Nevada desert.

>> No.12678183

>>12678097
no
t. colorblind

>> No.12678184

>>12678171
if you zoom-in you can clearly see alien trees and buildings inside the dome

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>>12678060
>Starship will change that

>> No.12678199

>>12678184
Nice catch!

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>>12678171

>> No.12678209

>>12678196
I love when images btfo muskrats. Just watching them cope with the billions of losses from explosions just these last few weeks is priceless and the best part is there's more to come.

>> No.12678216

>>1267820
that visual effect is probably due to the dome's electromagnetic shield interacting with Jupiter's strong radiation belt.

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>>12678209
>there's more to come.
>open spaceX-camp<

>> No.12678220

>>12677335
it was kino

>> No.12678222

>>12678209
Seems that BO fans can't be dissappointed when nothing ever happens

>> No.12678224

>>12678222
>BO fans
Who?

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>>12677335
Cute! Need GET!

>> No.12678226

>>12678218
That seems like a blast if you'll pardon the pun.

>> No.12678228

>>12678201
>>12678216

>> No.12678245
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>>12678209
Lmao exploding stuff was the whole idea from the start retard, that's the whole point of the extensive testing approach.
More explosions means more testing is needed and more information can be learned.

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>>12678209
SN9 cost maybe $10 million dollars dumbass

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>>12678222
>rockets look like ass
>no progress
>boring, evil mega corp
>not even cool ceo
>boring logo
no memes
why?

That being said I want to see Bill Gates kick off into space. I wouldn't be a fan because FUCK Win10, but he would make a very cool and interesting addition to the grid and I'd like to see their approach. Plus: Corny memes

>> No.12678256

>>12678250
i can see bill gates starting a space mining company or something

>> No.12678268

>>12678245
>Half ass my way thru is solid engineering

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>>12678256
>bootup
>max q
>meco
>plugs in printer
(...)

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>>12678245
>Musk stated we are expecting All of them to go KABOOOOOOM as studying KABOOOOOOM after KABOOOOOOM after KABOOOOOOM after KABOOOOOOM after KABOOOOOOM after KABOOOOOOM after KABOOOOOOM after KABOOOOOOM will tell us everything about KABOOOOOOM.
>Musk will now take questions from the audience, please direct your questions upon KABOOOOOOM after KABOOOOOOM for which we have striven.
>the speaker adds, please ask no questions about the mission capability of our craft because they all went KABOOOOOOM and we haven't seen it work often cause it was never a goal at CRACK-POT AEROSPACE.

>> No.12678279

>>12678196
newfag lol

>> No.12678280

>>12678245
You can't build spaceships outdoors.

>> No.12678281
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>>12678256
gates is far too busy planning how he's going to make you eat the bugs

>> No.12678284

where did all these newfags who never saw the grasshopper or falcon 9 drone ship landing development campaign came from?

>> No.12678287

>>12678281
based

>> No.12678290

>>12678268
check up all-up testing philosophy kid, it took people to the moon.

>> No.12678291

>>12678284
They're just trolling because it's so easy to get a response from elon fanboys

>> No.12678292

>>12678155
No, you partially melt a crater glacier from the bottom up and live in the water.

>> No.12678293

>>12677255
around 8 hours on Europa's surface and you are already dead. Good luck even landing because you'll need to spend significant time in Jupiter's rad belts.

>> No.12678297

>>12678291
>say dumb thing
>"wow that's dumb"
>haha I win
It's been over a decade and it still doesn't make any sense to me.

>> No.12678301

>>12678297
People need attention.

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>>12678276
I wonder if you also retardposted 10 years ago, back when falcons 1st stages exploded one after the other...

>> No.12678306

>>12678290
>NASA did specifically want all its prototypes to go KABOOOOOOM so they never seen it full operation.

>> No.12678308

>>12678302
they probably didn't even know what SpaceX was back then honestly

>> No.12678312

>>12678297
its literally autism

>> No.12678313

>>12678291
>i was only pretending

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>>12678306
Nice coping bro. Nobody said spacex wants them to explode, they just don't care that much because it's not a big loss to hem. They are basically testing cheap trashcans with no other purpose.

>> No.12678335

>>12678326
Stop replying to it

>> No.12678349

>mommy told me explosions are scary and nothing good ever came out of blowing stuff up because it's scary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvim4rsNHkQ

>> No.12678350

>>12678335 >>12678326
>testing cheap trashcans with no other purpose.
>thinks they haven't hit an impasse

>> No.12678351

>>12677255
Ten meters under the ice and the radiation levels are zero. Jupiter is surrounded by an incredibly high flux of shitty pissy low energy ionizing radiation. It's easy to block.

>> No.12678354

>>12678209
>billions

>> No.12678359

>>12678354
You know what he's doing, don't bother.

>> No.12678358

>>12677561
No, Jupiter emits no radiation except for UV auroras and low infrared light.

>> No.12678360

>>12678349
We will eventually see a sequel video titled How Not to Land a Reusable Upper Stage.

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>>12677252
Speaking of—if we are the precursor race and have millions of years to fuck around to our heart's content then could we build a shellworld around a gas giant and make it like pic related (don't ask me how we'd solve the sun issue, we'll figure it out with enough time)?
Talk about fucking with the ayys.

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>>12677260
It would be something more like this except more gradual, you wouldn't see the surface of the ocean as a hard line like that

>> No.12678373

>>12678302 >>12678308
>is keenly taken with KABOOOOOOM learning style
>thinks spaceX is taken seriously by proven aerospace industry competitors

>> No.12678379

>>12678367
If you put a tiny sun in a geosynchronous orbit above a single point of Europa would it make this?

>> No.12678389

>>12678379
it would have to be in an impossibly close orbit

>> No.12678398

>>12678379
Can Europa even hold anything is geosynchronous orbits?

>> No.12678402

g...guys, what if premature colonization of Mars will ruin our prospects of eventually terraforming it? Terraforming Mars might require crashing a bunch of icy asteroids into it... that's not possible when you already have settlements present.

>> No.12678405

>>12677723
Opposite lol. HR is there to hire the right people of specific kind of requirements. Better the HR, better your company talents grows.
Musk removed Tesla PR because he sees them as useless.

>> No.12678406

>>12678402
Yes it is

>> No.12678408

>>12678373
>dominates launch market
>America's only manned spacecraft
>not taken seriously
ok retard

>> No.12678410

>>12678402
Tell them to move, it's their problem if they don't listen.

>> No.12678411
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How long would this take to achieve realistically?

>> No.12678417

>>12677335
the meme engine which is heavier and thus less effective than conventional bell nozzles, the whole thing defeated its own purpose

>> No.12678418

>>12678411
With or without the monster L1 magnet?

>> No.12678423

>>12678060
>Starship MIGHT completely change that.

im not doubting the system, im doubting that they will ever get that beast as reliable as falcon got.

>> No.12678424

>>12678373
lol If you want to troll convincingly don't shill for boeing, it's way too retarded.

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>>12678402
>terraformer comes dangerously close to realizing how retarded terraforming is

>> No.12678427

>>12678411
A few thousand years of humanity focusing on nothing but making mars habitable

>> No.12678430
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>You will never see this in your lifetime

How do you cope with this? I want to be able to travel to Mars and live in a Martian hotel. Unfortunately, it will never happen.

>> No.12678431

>>12678402
Nobody is going to be crashing asteroids into Mars my guy. It is never going to happen

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>>12678430
>You will never see a NASA colony in your lifetime
Yeah. I reconcile it by knowing I will see a SpaceX colony lmao

>> No.12678436

>>12678430
>How do you cope with this?
Lots and lots of booze and drugs

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>>12678379
I'm not even sure if there's any solid ground beneath the ice

>> No.12678442

>>12678209
moron, these things are meant to dispose themselves , they are just tanks with engines, they have no use for them after the initial test phase anyways, and they cost mere millions a pop, the engines cost more than the entire rocket in materials. as launch vehicle it has already proven to take off from the pad without any hitch, with more fuel this thing can go SSTO with ease. they are just not allowed yet to do so by regulations

>> No.12678444

>>12678209
that explosion literally saved SpaceX money lmao, the cranes to take it apart are more expensive than picking up the pieces

>> No.12678446
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12678446

>>12678435
>Wanting to live in Elon Musk's ancap company town where murder is legal

>> No.12678451

>>12678297
yeah I really don't understand the appeal

>> No.12678452

>>12678444
this. just imagine the savings on angle grinder discs and manpower, let it blow up, and get the excavator with that hydraulic claw to pick up the pieces, its also safer from a workplace hazard perspective

>> No.12678459

>>12678451
just as every elementary class has it's clown...

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>>12678408
>>dominates launch market
>>America's only manned spacecraft
>>not taken seriously

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_launch_market_competition#Since_2016
>SpaceX's market share increased rapidly. In 2016, SpaceX had 30% global market share for newly awarded commercial launch contracts, in 2017 the market share reached 45%,[88] and 65% in 2018.[89]

Government funding is a more sarcastic word chosen as equivalency thru displacement.
watering [A] = starving [B]
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2020/08/18/billionaire-elon-musk-raises-19-billion-in-new-funding-for-spacex/?sh=58e030502404
Billionaire Elon Musk Raises $1.9 Billion In New Funding For SpaceX
The funding comes just after SpaceX completed its most high-profile mission yet: In May, the company sent a NASA crew to the International Space Station, marking the first crewed orbital flight from American soil since 2011.

Future contracts will pay for his current spending, else wouldn't of gotten this far.
https://labusinessjournal.com/news/2020/oct/12/spacex-lands-149-million-defense-contract/
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-52818543
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/07/spacex-starlink-wins-nearly-900-million-in-fcc-subsidies-auction.html
https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/03/12/spacex-seeks-16-billion-in-government-subsidies.aspx

This played out the exact same way every time a public-media loved charismatic charlatan has TVsex with the popular vote USA government.


>>12678424
>troll convincingly don't shill for boeing
bro!! there isn't a single fuckn thing spaceX can engineer better than boeing!!
your retard shit go KABOOOOOOM

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>>12678446

>> No.12678471

>>12678463
>here's why you're wrong! *post sources confirming my post*
nigga are you retarded

>> No.12678476

>>12678471
Yes now quit replying to him.

>> No.12678478

>>12678471
do not reply to the retard
report and ignore

>> No.12678496

>>12678418
The magnet is fucking irrelevant to building up an atmosphere on Mars

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>>12678471 >>12678476 >>12678478
>confirming corruption of process
>I didn't know USA equivalency isn't impressive nor respected by international audience
>I was jerkn off to da flag!!

>> No.12678509

>>12678463
based

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>>12678437

>> No.12678515
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Best planet hours

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>>12678506
Why are you pretending that you don't know how to quote correctly?

>> No.12678523

>>12678470
>/k/ builds their Mars colony as one big armory/fortress/temple to the Murder/k/ube
>/out/ and /an/ build a massive biodome full of trees as one big Predator style arena
>/mlp/ raid utopia planitia on robot horses as tribes of autistic Comanche
What other terrible colonies would the boards come up with?
>>12678496
Yes it does, the solar wind is why Mars has such a thin atmosphere today
It would be thicker if it had a magnetosphere

>> No.12678527

>>12678523
>/b/ colony is nothing but pisslocks all the way down leading nowhere

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How many people do you think will be on Mars by 2060? Which countries would be there by then?

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>>12678515
Based

>> No.12678540 [DELETED] 

>>12678520
>the charismatic pied-piper charlatan is talking us all for a ride!!!
>I musk Jizzzzzzzzzzzzz!!

>> No.12678548

>>12678373
>You have to be taken seriously by the least competent but longest running orthodox institutions!
Die NPC.

>> No.12678556

>>12678548
Anon just report low-quality off-topic trash and don't bother replying.

>> No.12678559

>>12678556
I wonder if he's replying to himself in order to spam the thread into the ground

>> No.12678562

>>12678559
Wouldn't be the first time. What an embarrassment.

>> No.12678564

>>12678548
>You only need to go KABOOOOOOM to be laughed at by the least competent but longest running orthodox institutions!
fify

>> No.12678566 [DELETED] 

>>12678556 >>12678559
>REEEEEEEEEE!!!

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12678573

Back to the business at hand
How does one build this for a magnetic sail prototype? We could easily fit one on a microsat and fling it beyond Earth’s magnetosphere to test its viability pretty quickly and cheaply
So how would we do it?

>> No.12678576

>>12677255
Imagine a rocket spaceship that’s also a drill, and it lands on the surface, then drills down to the ocean

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Wtf Uranus is dark as hell in natural light

>> No.12678594

>>12678090
you do understand that by not knowing temperature scale conversion, many burgers are smarter than you
-40 is the same temperature in both scales

>> No.12678614

>>12678562
>misdirect so no-one suspects I'm the samefag

>> No.12678616

>>12678083
Seething Eurotrash

>> No.12678661

>>12678523
>/x/philes manage a surprisingly competent expeditionary colony looking for ancient ayys, pyramid landing sites, etc. but the interior of their hab perpetually smells like a used cum sock, with "how 2 sumon sucubutt gf" scrawled in desperate graffiti everywhere
>the /pol/ony kills each other off fighting over who counts as white
>the /g/ colony's control systems are hyper efficient since they're all based on Gentoo but they never actually do anything besides write software and meditate on lambda calculus

>> No.12678669

>>12678358
It's the equivalent of the Earth's Van Allen belts. I think the only moon of Jupiter not affected is Callisto.

>> No.12678671

>>12678577
If Uranus is too dark maybe you should wipe better.

>> No.12678672

Guys i ysvent slept for two fays I need h

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>>12678671

>> No.12678685

>>12678661
I want to establish a Strasserist colony in the Kupier Belt, bros

>> No.12678691

Off Twitter for a while

>> No.12678694

>>12678691
Off twitter permanently, the execs too

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Space worthy combat hardsuits when?

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>>12678576
>rocket spaceship that’s also a drill,
built like a tank instead crumbling under its own weight?

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>>12678576
>rocket spaceship that’s also a drill,
Built like a tank or submarine and not crumble under its own weight?

>> No.12678779

https://twitter.com/FaceTheNation/status/1266817850599227392

>Bill Anders said that SpaceX reminds him of NASA during Apollo
that's quite the compliment

>> No.12678789

>>12678779
Holy shit, nice

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https://youtu.be/_OXk4RKZhaY

this is a cool video. Talks about how Astronauts trained for the lunar landing and how crews managed to simulate lunar gravity. Interviews an engineer behind pic related. He says that without an equivalent NASA won't be going to the moon again. I hope that Artemis doesn't rely completely on Boeing's automated software.

>> No.12678808

>>12677199
>At that moment I knew
>I fucked up
xD

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>>12678705
We may end up using biosuits that are basically zero suits, so if we rightfully scrap the dumb AI follow life support robot idea, we may end up getting something like pic related.

>> No.12678823

>>12678779
Nice

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I'M GONNA
I'M GONNA STAAAAAAAAAACK

>> No.12678832

>>12678827
Shiny. Elon is pumping these out faster than he's having children

>> No.12678849

>>12678827
>>12678832
Just wait til he invests in semi-automated VABs

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>>12678832
they are his children

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>>12677308

>> No.12678858

>>12678827
Shinyyyyy

>> No.12678859

>>12678849
the first ever modern rocket assembly line is going to be pretty insane

>> No.12678861

>>12678779
Wasn’t any Mexican welders in apolly times

>> No.12678863

>>12678852
>cannibalizes SN5 and SN6
I thought he was about Mars not Saturn

>> No.12678871

Can we bring Mexican welders to Mars?

>> No.12678886

>>12678871
Can you even weld on mars? You need an oxygen atmosphere for that.

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>>12678722
>SpaceX builds a spaceship
https://youtu.be/ywBV6M7VOFU?t=117
https://youtu.be/ogbQ8oldlmw?t=3

>> No.12678906

>>12678886
You can weld underwater, surely you can weld on Mars

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>>12678793
leggyboi!

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>>12678886
>Can you even weld on mars? You need an oxygen atmosphere for that.
wut

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DARPA to survey private sector capabilities to build factories on the moon
>This is a new project that DARPA announced Feb. 5 called “Novel Orbital and Moon Manufacturing, Materials and Mass-efficient Design.”
>DARPA is looking to “develop foundational materials, processes, and designs needed to realize in-space manufacturing of large, precise and resilient Defense Department systems,” Bill Carter, program manager at DARPA’s Defense Sciences Office, said in a statement.
>DARPA is inviting companies that have technologies in this area to participate in a webinar planned for Feb. 26. The agency does not intend to issue any contracts now but is doing market research for a future solicitation.
https://spacenews.com/darpa-to-survey-private-sector-capabilities-to-build-factories-on-the-moon/

>> No.12678924

>>12678886
oxygen/nitrogen atmospheres are explicitly ass for welding, you need to shield the weld from the atmosphere in order to get anything done

>> No.12678926

>>12678921
Woah

>> No.12678929

>>12678705
Never because inability to dissipate heat quickly enough/at all will kill you with more certainty than projectiles.

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cool, so the last starlink launch was pretty brutal

>> No.12678931

>>12678921
Nice. If we're gonna colonize, we have to start thinking about how to build off-Earth factories.

>> No.12678932

>>12678929
what if the suit is cold

>> No.12678935

>>12678932
Yeah, just let the vacuum of space suck you off, bro. It's so cold out there, bro.

>> No.12678938

>>12678446
Yes

>> No.12678939

>>12678930
I wanna see that compared to other Starlink and aggressive barge landings. Starlink landings are supposedly pretty tough, and I remember they lost a couple boosters on landing as they were ramping up Starlink launches. Meanwhile, NROL-108 was RTLS.

>> No.12678947

>>12678935
I kid but like... what about running cooled liquids through the suit? does that not work? too high tech? in the far future?

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>>12678930
post about it: https://old.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/ldkz7c/starlink18_first_stage_telemetry_and_analysis/

>> No.12678950

>>12678921
Excellent. Once they get off-world PCB etching and chip lithography working we're finally free of the bug menace.

>> No.12678956

>>12678947
>cooled liquids
How do you cool them?

>> No.12678957

>>12678083
>>12678090
Read the image idiot. It says "anomaly".

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>>12678577
>>12678682
Petition to change this fucking planet's name to Ouranos or George.

>> No.12678965

>>12678956
Radiate the heat through a life support backpack radiator, dummy

>> No.12678966

>>12678939
you could compare the telemetry on flightclub. In fact, here:
Starlink 18: https://flightclub.io/result/2d?id=72153caa-ea97-4847-a76a-6632e332fa14
Starlink 16: https://flightclub.io/result/2d?id=4e55e43b-daa2-4fef-b617-802bf33bdb33

eyeballing it it looks like 18 was considerably more shallow and consequently more demanding overall.

>> No.12678967

>>12678523
>>12678527
>>12678661
>Martian colonization but it's just a physical manifestation of all of 4chan
Man, /biz/ would be utterly fucked by light lag.
What would be the throne of Elon? Not /sci/, that's too easy.

>> No.12678968

>>12678965
>Radiate
How?

>> No.12678972

>>12678968
Do you...not know about radiation?

>> No.12678974

>>12678968
Thing hotter than the environment will emit infrared light, thus cooling is off
That’s radiative cooling

>> No.12678977

>>12678974
It's a space suit, isn't it? What medium will it be transferring heat to? Solar wind?

>> No.12678979

>>12678977
The heat just goes into the air as photons

>> No.12678991

>>12678967
>Man, /biz/ would be utterly fucked by light lag.
Their colony would be placed in between all the other ones to become the de facto trading hub. Also they'd grow tulips for the memes.
>What would be the throne of Elon? Not /sci/, that's too easy.
/out/'s farming colony in Valles Marineris.

>> No.12678996

>>12678977
>What medium
You really don't understand how radiation works.

>> No.12678997

>>12678977
the aether

>> No.12679003

>>12678979
Which isn't that amazing, considering the size and weight limits. So once you have your reflectiveness reduced or circumvented somehow, you're faced with the problem of getting thousands of joules over a second from just one hit.

>> No.12679010

>>12678997
Based

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https://twitter.com/standardsmanual/status/1358421936976625667
RIP king

>> No.12679026

>>12679015
Legend

>> No.12679030

>>12678577
Do you realize how small is the sun at that distance?

>> No.12679038

>>12679030
I know. But every photo I've seen has been brightened to hell. I play around with NASA's eyes software all the time, and from that distance the Sun looks like a spec of dust. And I've heard all the numbers like "oh it's 1/100th the brightness", but I've never actually gone out and looked for photos with natural light before. Kind of just a shocker. How dark is it near Pluto?? Could you even see anything?

>> No.12679044

>>12679015
f

>> No.12679050

>>12679038
Yes, they found the Charon mass relay but they don’t want the public to know about it so they make fake pics of Pluto

>> No.12679060

>>12679038
you could see pluto but it would be quite dark

>> No.12679062

>>12679038
Human eyes are logarithmic, in that much dimmer things don't actually seem that much less visible. For instance, an electrically lit room is lit by around 25 watts per square meter, wheras the sun on a bright day is around 1360 watts per square meter, a 50 something times decrease, and yet things are perfectly visible in a room lit by a lightbulb.
Pluto is around 30AU away from the Sun, so it's gonna be 1/30^2 times as bright, or 1/900. If you gave your eyes time to adapt, you'd be able to see Pluto, just about, though in terms of colour vision you won't catch much.

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>>12679062
It's not really that colorful anyway

>> No.12679068

>>12679062
That'd be cool to see pluto people who have basically evolved to not have irises anymore

>> No.12679097

>>12678722
OH N-

>> No.12679107

>>12678576
The ice is estimated to be 20-60 miles thick. That better be a sturdy drill

>> No.12679112

>>12678859
Will Powerhouse be played all the time?

>> No.12679118

>>12678966
Any reason why they flew a different trajectory other than “let’s see what happens lmao”

>> No.12679122

>>12679107
Not even close to 60 miles thick.

>> No.12679123

why does fraud musk live in my head rent free

>> No.12679139

>>12679122
Better tell that to NASA, since you seem to know better

>> No.12679141

>>12679118
They have to fly a bunch of different trajectories to cover all the latitude bands.

>> No.12679149

>>12678402
Correct, by the time it is technologically possible it will be politically untenable. Paraterraforming gang wins again.

>> No.12679150

Strip Triton of all its ice. Then throw it at Mars. While the initial Martian city is built safely into the walls of Valles Marineris.

Then declare independence from Earth.

>> No.12679157

>>12679150
Just because you can imagine something doesn't make it possible to actually do it

>> No.12679167

>>12679157
t. Boeing employee

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I genuinely can't understand how people are still making predictions about humans landing on mars thanks to the starship, even if it happens only 15 years from now. It's a thoroughly flawed design, the raptor engine is a complete failure, the steel coating is a meme, the landing maneuver is impractical and absolutely unfit for humans to be carried in while it's being performed. I'd much rather place my hopes in Blue Origin, they at least work with technology that's feasible and that has been more than proven to work whilst manned.

>> No.12679179

>>12679150
>Building your city below mean sea level

Retard.

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>>12679139

>> No.12679183

>>12679174
The lack of a launch abort system alone means that NASA will never fly humans on it. It is a great cargo vehicle, though, assuming they can get the costs down close to where they need them

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>>12679181
You're right, I apologize

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>>12679174
I genuinely can't understand how people are still making predictions about humans landing on the moon thanks to the Lunar Excursion Module, even if it only happens 9 years from now. It's a thoroughly flawed design, the descent propulsion system is a complete failure, the aluminum skin is a meme, the landing maneuver is impractical and absolutely unfit for humans to be carried in while it's being performed. I'd much rather place my hopes in the Soviet Union, they at least work with technology that's feasible and that has been more than proven to work whilst manned.

>> No.12679208

>>12679183
That is why spacex will be taking people and NASA will never get anywhere

>> No.12679217

>>12679208
Nah, spacex doesn't have spare billions to develop their own life support and habitation. They need NASA and NASA needs them

>> No.12679223

>>12679183
Did stop them from using the shuttle. Which couldn't abort until after SRBs were spent and ejected. The abort modes also required holding onto Orange Tank. To fuel the shuttle.

Starship can abort from SuperHeavy and then land.

>> No.12679225

>>12679197
I genuinely can't understand how people are still making predictions about humans travelling from place to place thanks to combustion powered cars, even if it only happens 400 years from now. It's a thoroughly flawed design, the acceleration system is a complete failure, the steel body is a meme, the brake system is impractical and absolutely unfit for humans to be carried in while it's being performed. I'd much rather place my hopes in the Holy Bible, It at least tells of technology that's feasible and that has been more than proven to work whilst manned.

>> No.12679227

>>12679217
plenty of private companies working on that stuff too, anon.

>> No.12679228
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>>12679225
Forgot pic

>> No.12679230

>>12679217
SpaceX got 2 billion last year in financing in August alone, not to mention the tens of millions they make per F9 launch, not to mention their imminent Starlink income. SpaceX does indeed have spare billions

>> No.12679232

>>12679223
That is one of the reasons they ended the shuttle program. That and the concerns over burning up in reentry, which is another problem they will have with starship. Starship won't be able to fire second stage engines and abort quickly enough to get the crew away from an explosion. There is a reason the LAS on every other crewed vehicle is on the crew capsule

>> No.12679236

>>12679181
>an ocean approximately 60-150 km deep
If there is life and it figured out how to grow complex and large, there is absolutely some fucked up shit down there.

>> No.12679237

>>12679230
Dumb. They have so many expenses accumilating. The starlink launches aren't free, they cost spacex money. The starship prototypes and the factory isnt free, it cost them money. They don't have money to throw away.

>> No.12679240

>>12679232
Were stuck on this planet. If we stick with such abort requirements.

>> No.12679241

>>12679240
Sounds like a good way to get a bunch of retarded congressmen to cancel the space program after 50 colonists get blown up in boca chica

>> No.12679243

I genuinely can't understand what people gain from saying retarded shit that they know isn't true and farming (you)s, even if it only happens a few times a thread. It's a thoroughly flawed procedure, the posting system is a complete failure, the blue background is a complete meme, the report system is impractical and absolutely unfit for anons to use while on the thread. I'd much rather place my hopes in the proonter anon, at least he actually believes his brand of autism.

>> No.12679245

>>12679190
Get back to your shitty proto Alien movies, David!

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>>12678076

>> No.12679257

>>12679232
>the concerns over burning up in reentry, which is another problem they will have with starship
Not nearly to the same degree because of the properties of steel, whereas "the orbiter's aluminum structure could not withstand temperatures over 175 °C without structural failure."

>> No.12679258

>>12679241
Not if they first get to the same consecutive landings number with cargo Starships as Falcon 9 has today.

>> No.12679259

>>12679237
Retard faggot.
The steel is a couple hundred thousand tops, steel is cheap as fuck, three raptors are six million combined and they're getting cheaper all the time as production continues to accelerate.
The man hours to assemble the Starship probably cost twice as much as the actual value of the materials involved, probably not more than twenty million a piece, or like a percent of the money SpaceX brings in in a single year.

>> No.12679270

>>12679255
What pattern recognition does to a mf.

>> No.12679271

>>12679258
Eventually one of your rockets will explode. This notion that they can quality control RUDs out of existence is insane. Landing isn't as big a problem as the first minute or two of flight where a tank rupture or an engine failure is a death sentence just like the shuttle

>> No.12679272

>>12679259
He also conveniently forgets the absurd amount of money starlink is predicted to generate (by external sources no less), but he's a shill looking for (you)s, so he'll just ignore that if you bring it up. Don't respond to him anymore.

>> No.12679273

>>12679217
We've reached the point where SX will do everything but will have trouble shoving a capsule inside the starship to act as an oversized co2 scrubber.

We Mars soon.

>> No.12679282

>>12679271
Eh. Maybe. Although if those things become as normal as airplanes are today before that happens the first tragic accident won't kill the idea and at best will only spur creation of a competitor with abort system.

>> No.12679288

>>12679118
they're doing rocket science

>> No.12679292

>>12678402
>terraform planet
>suddenly most of it is inaccessible because oceans
>have to deal with shitty weather too
>and eco-groups funded by megacorps as means to sabotage smaller entities

Great idea. Lets terraform the Sun as well.

>> No.12679295

>>12678411
A minute using GIMP

>> No.12679305

>>12679292
Yes.

>> No.12679323

>>12679259
SpaceX employs 8000 people with avg pay of ~60K that's 480M in employee pay per year.

Starlink sat + launch costs spacex ~30 million, as per spacex talks. They launched 14 starlink in 2020. That's 30 million x 14 = 420 million.

Thats close to a billion in 2020 with just employees and starlink launch costs. There's also recurrent facility maintenance/rent/utility costs that would probably be close to $100M-$300M. Then there's R/D money for Starship/Starlink/Raptors, tooling money for all their tools, money for all the 50+ Raptor engines, etc.

They don't bring in much money. Starlink wont get their full return back for years. Starship money wont be recouped for few years. Musk said Starship R/D would costs ~2-10 billion. Starlink would costs another similar level of investments. The money they would make back would be years away. For now, they're bleeding.

>> No.12679325
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Would you be a botanist on Mars?

>> No.12679330

>>12679323
SpaceX could IPO anytime and probably raise 100 billion.

>> No.12679335

>>12679330
SpaceX IPO when.

>> No.12679338

>>12679325
Botanist, geologist, whatever you need

>> No.12679346

>>12679335
Hopefully never

>> No.12679347

>>12679330
>IPO anytime
No. Not for another 10 years.

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>>12679330
I don't see that happening unless Musk gets the Zuck treatment in that he will be CEO forever and can't be forced out.
Much more likely to IPO Starlink only instead.

>> No.12679359

>>12679323
>SpaceX employs 8000 people with avg pay of ~60K
Source on that avg pay value?

>> No.12679370

>>12679359
https://www.payscale.com/research/US/Employer=Spacex/Salary

60K is low balling it too, its actually 93K. So 8000 x 93K = 744 million.

>> No.12679373

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSLBJXJpF4s
The future is here.

>> No.12679375

>>12679232
>Starship won't be able to fire second stage engines and abort quickly enough to get the crew away from an explosion.
Not true, Starship isn't strapped to giant SRBs so any potential "explosion" of Superheavy would really just be a deflagration of methane in the atmosphere

>> No.12679379

>>12679118
You aren't going to get good coverage if you launch all of your satellites into the same place

>> No.12679384

>>12679325
What a waste of space. Hardly any food at all.

>> No.12679386

>>12679271
Airliners still crash and have no abort system for hundreds if people.

>> No.12679394

>>12679386
Doesn't matter rockets should because they are fundamentally dangerous.

No sane human being would spend several months up to full year in a tincan floating through space full of explosives without an ejection seats.

>> No.12679396

how do they clean the LOX tanks for starship? Or do they clean them at all? I've heard that LOX has some rather exciting reactions to bird crap, bugs, and finger oils.

>> No.12679406

>>12679325
Only if I could SCIENCE THE SHIT OUT OF IT

>> No.12679411

>>12679394
How about cowards can stay on earth and free men can do as they please?

If you can't handle the risk don't get on, simple.

>> No.12679418

>>12679394
>full of explosives
Propellants are not explosives

>> No.12679426

>>12679394
Anon, really? A tin can flying thousands of metres above the ground full of kerosene and no ejection seats is different how? That instead of quickly losing consciousness after the explosive decompression you get the privilege of screaming your lungs out in terror as you fall to your death for a few minutes?

>> No.12679437

>>12679323
Mate
Starlink launch cost is going to be a large chunk based on wages for man hours
So you can’t just add them

There’s a reason they have located their floor space in very cheap locations
Boca Chica had nothing there, literally vacant lots, that’s cheap

Falcon 9 will have more cost in materials and fuel than Starship does, for sure.

And anyways there’s certainly taxes/fees on top of That 60k salaries

>> No.12679439

>>12679396
Anon are you fucking retarded

>> No.12679446

>>12679373
>weird structure instead of just hopping
>battery-powered steam rocket

Yikes

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SNX is flying THIS MONTH

>> No.12679456

>>12679394
Eject where, you fucking brainless chimp?

>> No.12679464

>>12679437
Launch cost is hardware/fuel itself. ~15m for 60 satellites(250K per satellites), 15m for reused rocket+fuel for both 1st and 2nd stage thats with reused fairing.

>> No.12679483

>>12679067
Beautiful

>> No.12679491

>>12679451
Any rumors about which day?

>> No.12679492

>>12679491
The 29th

>> No.12679507

>>12677424
it emits incredibly gay radiation

>> No.12679513

>>12678832
I wonder if he is gonna have anymore.

It’s never bad to have a bit of redundancy when it comes to potential heirs.

>> No.12679522

>>12679067
Pluto looks like a garage floor or a shitty public bathroom wall.

>> No.12679523

>>12677260
>>12677605
Larry niven’s ringworld has a circumference of 600,000,000 miles and a width of 1,000,000 miles. There is also an inner ring with alternating dark rectangles that also rotate to simulate a day/night cycle.

Basically, his ringworld has the same radius between its sun as earth does from sol, 100,000,000 miles.

I think the ringworld wouldn’t have a visible horizon, it’d just appear flat and the maximum viewing distance would be determined by atmospheric haze. Then in the sky there would appear a hyperboloid

The far side would be 1 million miles wide and 200 million miles away. The same angle can be imagined standing at one end of a football field and seeing something half a yard long, like the length of a persons forearm; a cubit.

https://worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/questions/132281/is-it-really-possible-to-see-across-a-ringworld

>> No.12679533

>>12679181
Would water pressure be as bad on Europa or does the low gravity make it less of a problem?

>> No.12679544

>>12679236
Probably not, the lack of sunlight and all the life that comes with it means Europa must rely on volcanic vents and perhaps some materials that work their way down through the ice, but it would still be very minor.

I know it isn’t very interesting, but life in Europa is probably just bacteria or at best small blind creatures similar to krill.

>> No.12679545

>>12679533
Very much so. Pressure is literally just the force of the stuff above you pressuring downward, whether it’s rocks, air, or a liquid, which of course depends on the strength of local gravity

>> No.12679547
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12679547

heheheeheheh

>> No.12679548

>>12679544
Still, discovering it would heavily alter the probabilities of further life heavily in the optimistic direction.

>> No.12679549

>>12679533
you can get way deeper for the same pressure on europa

>> No.12679554

>>12679330
I don’t think Elon would ever want anyone except himself to decide what spacex does and he certainly isn’t desperate for money.

>> No.12679568

>>12679544
Maybe they accidentally stumbled into extremophiles that thrive in moderate amounts of radiation the moon is being blasted with. Or at the very least metabolize irradiated ice as it works its way down to the liquid layers.

>> No.12679574

>>12679544
Didn't mean that the moon is receiving moderate amounts, just that at some depth it is significantly reduced and thus some extremophiles might be able to survive.

>> No.12679576

>>12679568
No radiation penetrates the ice

>> No.12679580

>>12679547
all I can see is a merchant

>> No.12679584

>>12679373
what a scam kek

>> No.12679588

>>12679576
Not all 15 to 25 kilometres, yes. We have creatures that burrow through soil. Admittedly none that I know of burrow through ice.

>> No.12679591

>>12679373
Romania about to BTFO the United States bros. Watch out!!!

>> No.12679592

>>12679588
Don't forget that the ice is at like -250F making it hard af

>> No.12679597

>>12679523
Yea, that's a massive ring, the rings in Halo are are not that much bigger around than Earth.

>> No.12679605

Guys, instead of 2 preburners, how about piezoelectric propellant atomizers?

>> No.12679613

>>12679568
The radiation doesn’t pierce the ice.

>> No.12679617

>>12679574
Moderate amounts of what? Sunlight? Sunlight can’t get through the kilometres of ice and practically nothing else can either. Everything in that ocean is isolated and only the tidal flexing of Jupiter allows it to possibly have large amounts of thermal activity.

>> No.12679637

>>12678225
no! bad jawas! no aerospike for you!

>> No.12679641

>>12678417
yeah materials science hasn't progressed since the late '70s early '80s ;)

>> No.12679660

>>12679617
No, Jupiter's radiation. If something can live relatively close to the surface it can possibly be part of a food chain reaching all the way down. I know this is incredibly unlikely, just looking for excuses to have complex life down there.

>> No.12679661

Football? Did someone just say football?
https://twitter.com/NASA_SLS/status/1358554889186590720

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>>12679637
UTINI!

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>>12679662
oh shit, it's begun...

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>>12679680
aAAaAGHhgh OOOOOH, I'm ALTITUDE COOOOOMPENSATING!

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>>12679687

>> No.12679760

When will we meet Them; our brethren from the stars?

>> No.12679790

>>12679181
Theory aka totally fucking made up by people who can’t predict the conditions 5 km down, on earth

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>>12678446
Maybe your kind will feel more comfortable earthbound.

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12679866

Musk is tweeting about dogecoin again... If he gets in trouble for this I don't know what the consequences would be from the SEC.

>> No.12679876

>>12679866
How could they get him for crypto shit?

>> No.12679900

>>12679662
That's a podracer engine.

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>>12679015
How long did the ARBA logo stay on the VAB anyhow? I seem to recall it was up there long after anyone older than early GenX would remember what the fuck it even was.

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>>12679637
No spike? :(

>> No.12679957

>>12679853
Needs an SPQR logo somewhere

>> No.12679982

>>12677764
Just keep a Starship in orbit. Hell, you could just land it and renovate it if you needed to and send it back up.

>> No.12680000

>>12679982
Literally retarded

>> No.12680005

FTL is weird. If an FTL UFO flew past you, it wouldn’t be visible on approach and would appear to recede in both directions simultaneously

>> No.12680006

>>12679982
Literally based

>> No.12680011

>>12680005
>why yes, I have watched a few sixty symbol videos. How could you tell

>> No.12680015

>>12679982
Literally inefficient

>> No.12680029

>>12679982
Literally doesn't go to stars. Why is it called starship.

>> No.12680035

>>12680029
Why is USA called the land of the free when you need to ask for a permission to test your rocket?

>> No.12680046

>>12680029
Because it's a cool name

>> No.12680064
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12680064

>>12680029
>Saturn V
>Doesn’t go to the fifth moon of Saturn

>> No.12680074

>>12680005
Why?
>>12680064
>Space Launch System
>doesn't launch

>> No.12680084

>>12680074
The photons from its approach would catch up in reverse order

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12680087

>starship
>is a tank

>> No.12680092

>Space Transport System
>it's actually just an execution method

>> No.12680096

>Starfighter
>In-atmosphere aircraft

>> No.12680097

>>12680074
>Why
It’s going faster than it’s own photons, so the photons from the time it started going FTL would arrive after the ship passed you, and the photons it emitted more recently would also appear before the photons it emitted when it began moving at FTL speeds, so you’d essentially see it reversing.

>> No.12680105

>>12680097
Oh, I get it.
That's really strange to think about.

>> No.12680122

>space shuttle main engine
>produces 25% of liftoff thrust

>> No.12680125
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What the heck is this nonsense

>> No.12680130

>National Aeronautics and Space Administration
>Only does climate science

>> No.12680139

>>12680125
>filename
More info, It was a competing design for the shittle.

>> No.12680141

Starship? What a dumb name

>> No.12680147

>STARship
>doesn't go to stars

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>> No.12680161
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>> No.12680167
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12680167

>Why yes I'm a space trucker

>> No.12680195

space lord motherfucker

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>>12678196
A METHANE TANKER FOR YOU

>> No.12680266

>>12678209
based, spacex stans seething

>> No.12680285

SN11's nosecone looks like dog doo

>> No.12680345
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SN10 HONK TOMORROW

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>>12680345
>ywn get a letter warning about potentially dangerous space activity near your home

>> No.12680354

https://spacenews.com/lockheed-martin-selects-abl-space-systems-for-uk-launch/
ABL won the contract for the Scotland launch site and are planning on launching their first rocket from Vandy in Q2. Smallsat launch getting tight...

>> No.12680379

>>12680354
can't wait for the smallsat market collapse

>> No.12680386

>>12680379
Once one or two more make orbit (probably within a few months), there's gonna be a reckoning of all the companies that are still in the midst of engine testing or worse. From there, the writing will be on the wall for the rest, and they'll all get picked off one by one.

>> No.12680397

>>12680097
If FTL exists it will probably be some kind of wormhole tech that allows to quickly move from one point in space to another.

You won’t be able to literally go faster than light in terms of speed.

>> No.12680419

Hey, anyone off the top of their heads know what the approximate unit price for the RS-68 engine is?

>> No.12680421

>>12680386
Only if their government pay checks stop flowing
Most of em have some gimmick to trick investors too

>> No.12680425

>>12680386
The smallsat launch industry right now is just a training grounds for aerospace engineers who want to have a career with real companies. Most of those companies are going to go under in a few years as universities run out of random radio experiments to do in LEO

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>2060
>Local rednecks now fly in rickety space ships with boosts to orbit via local reused boosters running on propalox fuel
>Space travel has become so common there are orbital police stations for the sake of keeping orbital highways safe
>There's no jewish central banking beyond urf
Best future.

>> No.12680437

>>12680421
The gimmicks are fine for now, but once the field gets crowded, many investors will wisen up and realize that no amount of proonting or whatever will help their company come out on top.

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>>12680223
>SNX after getting a new thrust puck and sticking the hop

>> No.12680451

>>12680437
>many investors will wisen up
Virgin Galactic is a $20B company

>> No.12680459

>>12680451
This. Investors are the biggest retards on the planet because they only care about returns, not results.

>> No.12680468

>>12680451
good point. literally who is giving virgin their money and why?

>> No.12680469

>>12680451
meh, I doubt they'd be receiving that kind of investment if there were a half dozen other suborbital spaceplane operators

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>>12678471 >>12678476 >>12678478 >>12678559
>confirming corruption of process
>I didn't know USA equivalency isn't impressive nor respected by international audience
>USA tender process
>the charismatic pied-piper charlatan is talking us all for a ride!!!

idiots exalted an idiot, GIGO

>> No.12680475

>>12680468
Dumb investors see Virgin Galactic as an easy way to capitalize on the success of newspace (read: SpaceX).

>> No.12680546

So what space stonks should I buy for long hold?

>> No.12680556

>>12680546
The best play may be to wait for the ARKX ETF and just buy into that. Let the fund managers do the research for you.
Also maybe just save your cash for the Starlink IPO.

>> No.12680567

>>12680556
Seconding this; wait for ARKX ETF if you don't have patience. Most of the companies that fund invests in will probably be junk and dead within a decade, though. If you have the patience, wait for the Starlink spinoff IPO

>> No.12680649 [DELETED] 

>>12680546
Don't buy any space stonks for the long hold. Buy Manganese X (US ticker MNXXF) for the short-term 10x from EV battery hype. They're a Canadian mining company whose board chairman is brothers with Tesla's battery research lead, and they're in the process of finalizing analysis on their huge manganese ore claim before they start digging and refining.

>> No.12680717

>>12680546
MAXR

>>12680649
>shilling your Canadian mining pennystock in /sfg/

>> No.12680740

STAGING
>>12680738
>>12680738
>>12680738

>> No.12680743

Page 10 nu thred
>>12680742
>>12680742
>>12680742
>>12680742

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>>12680743

>> No.12680749

>>12680345
static fire or cryo test?

>> No.12680913

>>12680419
500 mil I think

>> No.12680932

Don't buy this, it's literally scam that this guy has been shilling all over 4chan.
>>12680649

>> No.12681275

>>12680153
Looks a lot like ITS.