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What's the scientific reason behind the US getting hacked all the time? How are their security servers breached all the time? Don't they have the world's best cybersecurity with the world's best minds working for them?

>> No.12477534

>>12477485
because of the Management Engine (ME) hardware backdoors built into ever CPU. Now that everyone know they exist, they can be leveraged to be hacked. People used Meltdown and Spectre to break in, and now who knows what they're called. I can't keep up. Neither can the security.

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine

Vendors say they've disabled the engine, but hackers can find ways to start it back up again.

>> No.12479630

>>12477485
US gov has had a reputation for abysmal cybersecurity for decades. At this point there's no excuse left, they just don't give a shit.

>>12477534
>People used Meltdown and Spectre to break in,
Those require being able to execute code there in the first place.

>> No.12480134

Why aren't they manufacturing the tech in house in America for domestic use?

>> No.12480182

>>12479630
Everything have abysmal cyber security.
Ask some programmers that maintain something like banking infrastructure how well their system works. Most of them will answer that it's like a circular house that's constantly on fire, but they can keep rebuilding it as fast at it burns down by some nice management tricks.
Ask someone who do pentesting for a living how secure and stable the average network is.

>> No.12480185

>>12480134
Imagine how much less profit that would give them.

>> No.12480198

>be China
>losing trade war
>releases viral pathogen to disrupt adversaries
>uses social media to spawn mass social unrest in US
>undermines election integrity to force opponent to elect senile leader
>hacks into enemy's nuclear stockpile
This is your reminder that China is softening the US for a first strike and it's working.
>b-but muh Russia

>> No.12480202

>>12480198
not quite that simple
the virus was stolen from a US research lab

>> No.12480203

>>12480198
>china
It was the Russians.

>> No.12480207

Ability is no longer considered in the hiring process. As a result, things are starting to decay as the ratio of productive knowledgeable workers to political hires gets worse.

>> No.12480211

>>12477485
Fake news.

>> No.12480212

>>12477485
No the US is incredibly lazy in cybersecurity..or security at all

>> No.12480215
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12480215

>>12480211
Real news you retard. You should be extremely concerned.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/17/nuclear-agency-hacked-officials-inform-congress-447855

>> No.12480222

>>12480203
It was really Donald Trump whose Russian hypnotic sleeper agent programming was activated by the series of keywords "covfefe bigly sad!", anonymous sources familiar with the president's thinking confirmed to CNN.

>> No.12480228

>>12480222
sorry to burst your bubble

>> No.12480246

>>12480215
China has been preparing for a war against america for decades. the west was naive, or deliberately betrayed

>> No.12480249

>>12480215
https://archive.is/ukAQf

>> No.12480253

>>12480228
If you read about it and try to pin down their source, they're saying it's Russia because """Bellingcat""" said so. Bellingcat is a glowie blog that has made a business for itself by screaming about muh Russia at every single opportunity, with or without evidence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellingcat

>> No.12480257

>>12480253
Ok RIDF. Say hi to Putin from me.

>> No.12480262
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12480262

>>12480257
No, I'm just not a naive retard.

>> No.12480263

>>12480257
He's telling you Bellingcat glows like plutonium.

>> No.12480267

>>12480262
>>12480263
Bellingcat is great at revealing Russia's incredibly incompetence. No wonder you retards hate them.

>> No.12480270

>>12477485
No, they outsource and hire dubious people from overseas and wonder why this happens.

>> No.12480278

>>12480267
post eyelids, zhou

>> No.12480283

>>12477485
People make fun of the Russian government for still using windows xp, but this is what happens when all of your software automatically calls home for updates.

>> No.12480286

>>12480203
1959 called, China doesn't work for Russia anymore.

>> No.12480301
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12480301

>>12480253
Heard the Salisbury cathedral is fantastic!

>> No.12480307

>>12480301
so what actually happened? it seems obvious Russia wasn't involved.

>> No.12480311

>>12480307
Deep state Demonrat plot by the Clinton's and Epstein to cover up their pedopizza restaurant in Salisbury. Ever heard of Salisbury "Steak"?

>> No.12480363

>>12477485
America is always ironic like that. You go the the HQ of the UN, where they talk about eradicating world poverty and then right outside the building you see homeless people loitering about.

>> No.12480478

>>12480198
If it was China, Trump would've jumped on it the first second he heard of the news.

Nothing from him means it's from Russia.

>> No.12480495

>>12480198
>be china
>want to soften up a foreign power to make them easy pickings
>release a virus inside your own borders instead
>only appear to still be strong by refusing to report on all the casualties taking place inside your own borders

Why would anyone honestly believe this shit?

>> No.12480503

>>12480478
No it was the deep state entities.

>> No.12480506

>>12480495
Because their own countries are suffering worse from the virus than the place it originated.

>locked down and barricaded an entire city for 2 months
>entire economy grinds to a halt as the whole country gets tested to make sure the virus didn't escape
>whole world's eyes are on you
>human rights violations getting thrown because you locked down a city
>ridiculed for not having enough tests for a novel virus
>getting shat on for letting thousands of people die

The narrative shifted from "China is megafucked" to "China released this on the world on purpose".

>> No.12480525

>>12480198
This endless stream of /pol/ fueled conspiracy garbage is getting exceedingly tiresome. It's just so fucking boring, monotonous, and unimaginative. At least put some fucking effort into your trolling you lazy cunts. Trolling is supposed to be an art, but all you fuckers do is flood this board with bottom of the barrel regurgitated and steaming horse shit. It's not even entertaining. No wonder m00t created that containment board. But unfortunately all it did was create a safe space for you mongoloids to get each other all riled up so that you build up the courage to shit all over the other boards too. Just fucking die in a nice, warm, and cozy house fire already. At least that would give us some respite from the cancer that you're spreading.

>> No.12480609

>>12480506
If you were going to unleash biowarfare WMDs on a geopolitical adversary, wouldn't you want plausible deniability?

>> No.12480616

>>12480495
To be fair, most people believe it was an accidental release that was then leveraged into a "first strike". Similar to how Bush was blindsided by 9/11, but leveraged it into justification for the Second Iraq War.

>> No.12480639

>>12480253
Bellingcat has more integrity than your feeble minded brain can comprehend.

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>>12480311

>> No.12480649

>>12480616
>most people believe
The voices in your head aren't "people," schizo.

>> No.12480664

>>12480639
You forgot the part where you justify your assertions and just replaced it with personal attacks. That's a yikes from me famalam.

>> No.12480688

>>12480609
How did China know the US would fuck itself the hardest out of every possible country? Keep in mind that if Asia itself was fucked, they stand to lose as well, because those are its trading partners.

This would be "4D chess" type shit where every domino landed in the exact sequence China wanted, like the 4D chess people say Trump does.

>> No.12480709

>>12480688
China's economy is based on manufacturing, and they have huge protective tarriffs on everything except for raw materials. Raw materials imports
from their trading partners would be relatively unaffected by the pandemic. They knew that because of their authoritarian society, they were best equipped to weather a severe viral outbreak, and now this is the result.

A lot of people think their aggression is a ploy to secure access to foodstuffs and raw materials, much like Imperial Japan did in the early 20th century.

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12480726

Anyone who trusts China is either stupid, willfully ignorant, and/or a 5th columnist

>> No.12480820

>>12477485
the scientific term is "lowest bidder"

>> No.12480840

>>12480688
I don't really think that the Chinese released it intentionally but it wasn't exactly hard to guess that the US would have the hardest time with it lmao.

>> No.12480882

>>12480840
>but it wasn't exactly hard to guess that the US would have the hardest time with it lmao.
The USA was considered to be one of the best prepared countries to handle a pandemic. The fuck up was not at all foreseen

>> No.12480899

>>12480478
>>12480246
>CNN says worry about Russia
>Fox says to worry about China

Pay no attention to the nose behind the curtain. Insider threats are much more dangerous than external ones. Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

>> No.12480997

>>12480882
It was prepared ahead of time, John Bolton gutted the department.

>> No.12481004

>>12480616
>Similar to how Bush was blindsided by 9/11, but leveraged it into justification for the Second Iraq War.
Anon...9/11 was the false flag attack designed to justify those wars and the patriot act.

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12481016

>>12477485
data security companies develop 0 days, and sell to other countries for millions. literally any system is vulnerable because the security standard is ridiculous.

>> No.12481017

>>12481004
This endless stream of /pol/ fueled conspiracy garbage is getting exceedingly tiresome. It's just so fucking boring, monotonous, and unimaginative. At least put some fucking effort into your trolling you lazy cunts. Trolling is supposed to be an art, but all you fuckers do is flood this board with bottom of the barrel regurgitated and steaming horse shit. It's not even entertaining. No wonder m00t created that containment board. But unfortunately all it did was create a safe space for you mongoloids to get each other all riled up so that you build up the courage to shit all over the other boards too. Just fucking die in a nice, warm, and cozy house fire already. At least that would give us some respite from the cancer that you're spreading.

>> No.12481024

Probably China-firsters.

You can say Ethically Chinese Americans are able to be more loyal to China than America, but you can't say Jews are capable of being more loyal to Israel.

>> No.12481031

>>12481017
Shut up retard

>> No.12481034

>>12481016
How about Linux or BSD?

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12481056

>>12477485
us intel is getting hacked like there were wmds in iraq. you need to understand this is how these agencies get funding. through nonstop racketeering about threats we never see a lick of evidence for. all they have is "just trust me bro, now gibes me billions more". and here's the thing, either they are that incompetent to get hacked with the billions invested already or they are more likely lying to get more billions, in any even they are not to be trusted. fuck them. i'd sooner trust some rando on the internet than us intel who has lied time and time again. at least some rando doesn't have a proven track record of dishonesty.

>> No.12481062

>>12480882
Not with the current leadership. The pandemic playbook were literally thrown in the trash.

>> No.12481083

>>12481062
https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/covid-19-un-explained/
>10. Why did John Bolton eliminate the entire executive group responsible for pandemic response coordination in the US, eviscerating the nation’s infectious disease defense infrastructure, and eliminating 80% of the department that could have helped other nations detect and control the epidemics they later suffered?