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CHANG edition
old: >>12407032

>> No.12410012

also here's a stream of them collecting moon rocks (if you believe them): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaQjDu0U5CA

>> No.12410018
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I want to believe

>> No.12410021
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>>12410007
>starship is barely bigger than the space shuttle
>still gets BRUTALLY MOGGED by the Chad V

>> No.12410023

>>12410021
Starship is the equivalent of the Apollo capsule.

>> No.12410029

>>12410021
>Starship is bigger than the entire Shuttle stack
>Super Heavy MOGS the entire Saturn V stack

>> No.12410033

>>12410021
>>12410021
you're gonna post this in every thread and still get (You)s lmfao

>> No.12410038

>>12410033
(You)s for nothing, replies for free

>> No.12410039
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>>12410021
I hope you understand that Starship is just the payload, the 2nd stage of Super Heavy?

>> No.12410048
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Impressive.

With this most recent achievement, fate has, in a single stroke, marked the decline of the west and spelled a new era of wondrous prosperity and peaceful global dominance for the Chinese dragon, which promises to firmly stand in sharp contrast to the historically bloody ascent of western powers and the cruel subjugation it brought to the humbler nations of the world. The blessings of Chinese space technology, AI robotics, quantum direct-current electricity, space habitats, gamma titanium mono crystal turbines, unmanned autonomous A.I. spaceships, and space colonies will be the instruments with which China affirms its noble stewardship of 21st century world politics and offers the non-western world a different option; an humanist alternative to the depredations of Western leadership and the opportunity for a more equitable and dignified multilateralism.

>> No.12410050

>>12410048
Thanks to you I've just realized that they've put COVID-19 on the Moon.

>> No.12410056

>>12410048
>humanist

how about those concentration camps, cultural revolution, tiananmen, dumpster baby daughters, must i go on?

>> No.12410062

>>12410048
lmao new pasta?

>> No.12410066

so china landed their lander. why didn't they tell anyone beforehand?

>> No.12410067
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>>12410056
Sacrifices to energize a monocultural society so it has the energy to be a global power in the XXI century.

>> No.12410075
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>>12410066
>. why didn't they tell anyone beforehand?
They are not after likes in jewbook. They want to do shit.

>> No.12410076

>>12410048
>Implessive.
>With this most lecent achievement, fate has, in a single stloke, malked the decline of the west and spelled a new ela of wondlous plospelity and peaceful global dominance fol the Chinese dlagon, which plomises to filmly stand in shalp contlast to the histolically bloody ascent of westeln powels and the cluel subjugation it blought to the humblel nations of the wolld. The blessings of Chinese space technology, AI lobotics, quantum dilect-cullent electlicity, space habitats, gamma titanium mono clystal tulbines, unmanned autonomous A.I. spaceships, and space colonies will be the instluments with which China affilms its noble stewaldship of 21st centuly wolld politics and offels the non-westeln wolld a diffelent option; an humanist altelnative to the depledations of Westeln leadelship and the oppoltunity fol a more equitable and dignified multilatelalism.
And fixed

>> No.12410084

>>12410039
We have to save Jessie bros

>> No.12410086

>>12410084
From what?

>> No.12410090

>>12410076
The correct thing to do would have been to replace every L with an R, because that's how the accent works dummy

>> No.12410095

Live: Special coverage of China's Chang'e-5 landing operation
https://youtu.be/bqGzUxfujbM

>> No.12410108
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>>12410056
The uyghur shit are a complete fabrication stemming from a NGO sponsored by Lockheed Martin and a fundamentalist christian who thinks god send him to westernize china. See pic related.
https://youtu.be/Wb-MNi8E-TA
https://youtu.be/soPJESgkE5k
https://youtu.be/Hb4v7g6yM0Y
https://youtu.be/U3YBomwuB10

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>>12410090
No.

>> No.12410138

>>12410108
that Tiananmen square tho

>> No.12410141
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>>12410007
>tfw lander live footage cut because CHINA

>> No.12410142
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So the chinks use Nintendo Miis for their space marketing?

>> No.12410154

>>12410029
>Super Heavy doesn't exist
FTFY

>> No.12410157

>>12410108
>re-education camps
Well, you have to give them one thing. Russians killed their tsar, Chinese turned their emperor into commie.

>> No.12410158

>>12410108
>Infographic png
>Dump of links to propaganda vids

The funniest thing about the /leftypol/ playbook is how it's literally identical to the /pol/tard playbook.

>> No.12410170

>>12410158
They have a more corporate profile on their infographics though.

>> No.12410175

>>12410158
It's sourced tho', /pol/ doesn't source their shit.

>> No.12410185

>>12410175
>Source: Chinese Communist Party
Yeah, literally Pravda is not a source.

>> No.12410190

>>12410185
And a christian fundamentalist and a study interviewing 8 uyghurs is ? shut the fuck up

>> No.12410196

>>12410154
Neither does Shuttle, or Saturn V

>> No.12410198

>>12410196
Those did exist, while Super Heavy has never existed.

>> No.12410203

>>12410190
>The only sources for uighur concentration camps are one study and a fundie!
>Source: chink pravda

Pull the other one Zhao. Stop shitting up the thread.

>> No.12410210

>>12410203
Give me a single valid source for the uygher concentration camp shit, it's over exaggerated cold war esque shit to form a negative consensus towards china.

>> No.12410212

>>12410210
Fuck China and fuck communists.

>> No.12410216

>>12410212
wew such a controversial opinion, both fox news and cnn would agree.

>> No.12410217

>>12410216
Wrong country.

>> No.12410223

>>12410056
>Imagine defending rioters and commie muslims.

>> No.12410226

>>12410062
Old pasta, but yeah.

>> No.12410234

So how about that Hong Kong

>> No.12410246
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>Chang'e

>> No.12410303

>>12410198
The components for super heavy exist though and have started being stacked

>> No.12410308

>>12410303
Well until it exists, it hasn't "mogged" anything.

>> No.12410309

>>12410175
/pol/ does?

>> No.12410313

>>12410308
Well Saturn V can't "mog" an in development rocket

>> No.12410316

>>12410313
I never said it did. What do you think you're refuting?

>> No.12410320

>>12410316
>>12410021

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>>12410320
>Assuming that different posts on an anonymous imageboard are made by the same person
Why do retards do this?

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>>12410246
keep seething

>> No.12410327
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>>12410313
>Saturn V can't "mog" an in development rocket
Can too.

>> No.12410336

>People are unironically defending an evil communist state

“They cannot understand as yet that we are not fighting a political party but a sect of murderers of all contemporary spiritual culture.”

>> No.12410339

>>12410303
What a cope lmao. It will most likely BTFO saturn... but only after it starts flying. What you said is cocky and is equivalent to saying new glenn will mog falcon 9 because the atoms needed to make it are technically already here on earth

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>>12410196
What is this then?

>> No.12410354

>>12410352
A taxidermied corpse.

>> No.12410359
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I wonder how the fuel industry reacts to what the space industry does
>bunch of rockets using the shit you supply
FUCK YES!
>announcement comes a bunch of all future rockets are switching to a different fuel
SHIT FUCK

Well, probably not because I doubt that rockets really compare to other fuel use categories, like cars. Still though RIP RP-1

>> No.12410363

>>12410354
Franken or not, it's an actual Saturn V, not some shitty mockup.

>> No.12410368

>>12410352
still amazing how that gigantic tower is eventually thrown away for that tiny pod. Earth really doesn't want her children to leave. Or at least makes them work for it.

>> No.12410370

>>12410359
>Tanker fills LOX tanks
Anon, do you not understand what LOX is? Do you understand what raptor engines oxidize methane with?

>> No.12410373

>>12410363
You don't seem to understand what taxidermy is. Taxidermy is the practice of preserving dead animals for display, as that rocket has been preserved as a museum display. This anon >>12410354 did not insinuate that rocket is a mockup.

>> No.12410374

>>12410359
Hell, they're probably happy they can sell off some of the shit they'd otherwise flare and thus waste. Just purify it to the desired purity and ship it, and it'd be even easier to do vs RP-1 because Methane and LNG dont really require chemical processing, LNG even less so.
Hell for methane all that's really needed is to chill the gaseous output of the well until everything heavier than methane condenses out, and pump out the methane into a chiller unit to liquefy it for storage and shipping.

>> No.12410380

>>12410370
Bocca chica ships in LOX, they don't have a condenser on site.

>> No.12410386

>>12410380
What does that have to do with anything? Anon posted a picture of LOX tanks but make a remark about fuel, particularly SpaceX changing what fuel they're using (Raptor burns methane.)

>> No.12410393
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>> No.12410395

>>12410359
We have so much methane we don't know how to get rid of it.
>Drill for oil at sea - fuckloads of methane as a byproduct
>Frack - fuckloads of methane as a byproduct
>Drill for oil on land - fuckloads of methane as a byproduct
>Landfill - fuckloads of methane as a byproduct
It's the most plentiful hydrocarbon we have. They're happy to be rid of it.

>> No.12410396

>>12410393
The fuck?

>> No.12410397
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>>12410393

>> No.12410402
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>>12410397

>> No.12410403

>>12410393
Source?

>> No.12410404
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>>12410395
>we don't know how to get rid of it.
we found a way

>> No.12410405

>>12410404
You have no idea how much we produce. Jesus fuck.

>> No.12410413

>>12410405
Are you being deliberately obtuse? So much methane is produced, the vast majority is burned on site rather than being collected. They send it up a pipe and light it on fire. That's what that image depicts. It's not a case of "we don't know how to get rid of it." We DO know how to get rid of it, just fucking burn it.

>> No.12410414

>>12410374
Yeah, methane is extremely convenient in that way. Honestly it checks so many boxes that I'm puzzled as to why it hasn't been used before now.

>>12410395
>>12410404
sounds like we should have far more LNG power plants. Or at least some means to make use of it/not be wasteful. Could cars be powered by the stuff? Not that that would ever happen in the current political climate.

>>12410396
some dude is making a mockup of the mockup

>> No.12410421

>>12410403
Forgot the name but its a twitter guy that makes starship renders.

>> No.12410423

>>12410403
>>12410421
https://twitter.com/ErcXspace/status/1333552319963729920

>> No.12410425

>>12410414
Methane can easily be used, it's just not economical in most cases. There are road vehicles today that run off LNG. The reason you don't see more of them is because gasoline and diesel are more economical in most places.

>> No.12410431

>>12410373
By his logic any spacecraft preserved is museum is a corpse. Doesn't change the fact that it is Saturn V and still exists to this day.

>> No.12410445

>>12410413
How about you people stop burning methane and releasing it?

>> No.12410449

Launch?

>> No.12410450

>>12410414
>some dude is making a mockup of the mockup
Uhhh will it have smaller fuel tanks compared to normal SS? This mockup looks like it has a fuckton of room

>> No.12410460

>>12410431
>By his logic any spacecraft preserved is museum is a corpse.
Obviously yes, that's what he said. A preserved museum specimen that can no longer function is equivalent to a taxidermied animal. Taxidermy is the practice of preserving an animal that no longer functions for display.

>> No.12410462

>>12410445
What do you mean by "you people"?

>> No.12410463

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8gtlLU9388
>SLS has a good chance of actually reaching Orbit before Starship
fuck

>> No.12410466
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>>12410450
nah, SS is just extremely roomy. Remember: it's actually larger than the Space Shuttle's big gay orange tank.

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>>12410466
like so

>> No.12410470

>>12410466
THE SHAFT
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>> No.12410472
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scientists btfo

>> No.12410474

>>12410460
>A preserved museum specimen that can no longer function is equivalent to a taxidermied animal
Well, in case of Saturn V only other viable options would be to burn in the atmosphere, rust in some storage building, or become a corral at the bottom of the sea.

>> No.12410482

>>12410445
Burning methane is how you avoid releasing it

>> No.12410483

>>12410474
Anon, nobody here is criticizing the practice of preserving rockets in museums. You're being impossibly autistic right now.

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>>12410470

>> No.12410487

>>12410484
>>12410466
>>12410469
Why do men always design such phallic rockets?

>> No.12410489

>>12410483
>You're being impossibly autistic right now
Welcome to /sfg/

>> No.12410492

>>12410487
Try designing a vaginal rocket

>> No.12410493

>>12410487
Anon, have you ever tried to launch a giant vagina?

>> No.12410501

>>12410487
Post your tits

>> No.12410506

>>12410487
to fuck the sky vagina

>> No.12410510
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>>12410487
men are actually super gay. Just look at all these dicks

>> No.12410517

>>12410463
It says two thousand, not three.

>> No.12410521

>>12410474
>>a rocket is kinda like a dick
>well, you can't actually deflate a rocket without irreversibly compromising its structural integrity...

>> No.12410592
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>>12410521
We have inflatable modules. When will we have inflatable rockets?

>> No.12410624

>>12410592
As soon as Boing reaches the required stage of senility.

>> No.12410629
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>>12410510
true
we could have had a flying breast that would release payload from its erect nipple

>> No.12410637
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>>12410592
1972

>> No.12410652

Is it hoppening yet?
Or is another static fire essential and it all slipped into next week now?

>> No.12410656

>>12410592
will bigelow be remembered as a pioneer in the history of inflatables? Or a pathetic first attempt

>> No.12410662

>>12410656
They were the first to send modules into space both solo and on the ISS. They have been oldspace laggards but from what I know their funding and resources are limited. I think they deserve some recognition.

>> No.12410692 [DELETED] 

>>12410007
动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门

>> No.12410694

>>12410692
based

>> No.12410696

>>12410692
This shit doesn't help, dude. Remember tank bro? He became on of them. The propaganda ran so deep, nobody will be phased by any of those stories anymore.

>> No.12410702

>>12410656
Bigelow is wacky dude
He believes in all kinds of paranormal shit like skin walkers, bought a ranch that was supposed to be ufo landing zone and puts money into paranormal research

>> No.12410713

>>12410702
I thought you were joking until I looked it up. Lmao holy shit

>> No.12410714

>>12410713
>>12410702
Based.

>> No.12410758
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so, should we expect any starship activity this wednesday?

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>> No.12410792
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MORE BOOSTERS MORE ADIDAS

>> No.12410806

>>12410702
>puts money into paranormal research
He also convinced Senator Harry Reid to divert federal funding to UFO research.

>> No.12410847

>>12410374
you need a thing to reject Nitrogen and a few other things
helium you remove by liquefying the methane
uhhhhh hydrogen sulfide?

>> No.12410856

>>12410652
Q2 2021

>> No.12410858

>>12410768
same

>> No.12410862

>>12410758
>fins are flapping in the wind
they don't really expect anybody to believe this is a real rocket, do they?

>> No.12410872

>>12410862
BAKA2

>> No.12410873

So 15 KM flight of SN8 today or what?

>> No.12410892

TFR Posted! GO GO GO
https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_0_0205.html

>> No.12410899

>>12410862
ackshually this is the tesla battery drivetrain augmenting the fore fins (elonerons <3) as part of a test.

>> No.12410902 [DELETED] 

>>12410892
Wow historic moment
>FAA is not liable for any loss of life or property

>> No.12410906

>>12410899
thats retarded

>> No.12410912

>>12410892
500 meters are not 15 km tho

>> No.12410916

>>12410847
you bubble the gas through amine
hydrogen sulfide gets dissolved, purified methane fucks off

>> No.12410920 [DELETED] 

>>12410912
bruh how dumb are you
500k ft = 15.2 km

>> No.12410929
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so 50km test today?

>> No.12410935

>>12410892
>Affected Area(s)
>Altitude: From the surface up to and including 1800 feet MSL

>> No.12410962

>>12410929
on labpadre they say only static fire

>> No.12410970

>>12410095
>live stream
>it is just a control room video
Why don't they transmit live from the craft? It looks suspicious.

>> No.12410971

>>12410472
Much of what people think of as engineering is actually machinists fixing the things the inexperienced CAD monkeys are too dumb to know won't work in real life.

>> No.12411025

>>12410971
imagine a machinist drilling additional holes and causing a disaster just because he felt he had to

>> No.12411029

>>12410075
Oh but they are. Embassies all over the world are literally paying people to go to pro-china protests and make it look like people are actually happy there. The people in your photos are most likely paid to be wearing those t shirts

>> No.12411035

>>12411025
t. enjoys removing his passenger side front wheel when he does an oil change

>> No.12411066

>>12410404
That's a safety device. If a hiccup occurs in a refinery. Then the pressure is released through that, and the gases burnt off .

>> No.12411074

>>12410929
lmao it's been downgraded to a 1/2 km hop now ahahaha

>> No.12411078
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ULA would've done the 50km hop by now

>> No.12411084

>>12411078
DELTA IV HEAVY TO LAUNCH NROL-44
• Rocket: Delta IV Heavy
• Mission: NROL-44
• Launch Date and Time: TBD

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>>12411084
cope

>> No.12411088

>>12411084
that's what a honk'll do to ya

>> No.12411091

>>12411086
seething ULA stan

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>>12411091
*actually contributes something to the advancement of interplanetary exploration in your path*

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I met a seething SpaceX stan today, he was actually crying, I told static fire is delayed again and there would be no hop until NET Q22021. He cried some more.

Feels good to be king

>> No.12411100

>>12411095
very true, they will probably never launch an interesting exploration mission. nasa would never trust them with anything of note. they'd rather fly them on atlas, delta, ariane, or sls. kinda puts it into perspective, spacex just isnt trustworthy yet (probably never)

>> No.12411106

>>12411095
>ugghh im roooving
Wish this had been delayed again, it was so close to being set back two years lmao

>> No.12411108

>>12411106
oops, wrong launch. Meant the last rover, that was a shitshow.

>> No.12411110

>>12411106
sorry ESA FAGGOT, that's your job now. NASA completes spacecraft exactly when they mean to ;)

>> No.12411112
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>>12411106
I understand your confusion. ULA has made many such contributions to scientific discovery. The sheer number of important launches can be overwhelming at times.

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12411115

Hi frens,
Me and my family digged some hole and settled down under the sn8 test pad. Is there any activity today?
Do i need to evacuate them to the safety?
Thanks frens.

>> No.12411118

>>12411112
too bad they'll never leave the pad again lmao

>> No.12411117

>>12411115
Ps.
Those orange cables taste so good

>> No.12411121

>>12411112
how can one launch company be so based? ULA been to Mars more times SpaceX can comprehend.

>> No.12411127
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>>12411121
>ULA been to Mars more times SpaceX can comprehend
oh my they've been quite a bit farther than Mars anon........

>> No.12411129

>>12411127
Starship will absolutely never leave the solar system like voyager or new horizons. fat ass got too much dry mass to achieve any meaningful delta v. it's embarrassing

>> No.12411132

Hop is scrubbed?

>> No.12411133

>>12411129
You won't be saying that when it deploys a plasma magnet sail and takes Musk back to his homeworld in Alpha Centuri

>> No.12411134

>>12411132
SpaceX cant launch in wind/rain, so yep

>> No.12411137

>>12411133
Nope, that's colonialism

>> No.12411138

>>12411137
Colonialism is the purpose of space. Taking pretty pictures is nice for (((scientists))) but it's time to do the big boy work, sweetheart :)

>> No.12411141
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>>12411133
how can you say such things when spacex hasn't even made it to the moon yet? pic very much related

>>12411138
>it's time to do the big boy work, sweetheart :)
if by big boy work you mean "things on earth because the only thing i've managed to get out of LEO is a car" then yes I agree you have lots of big boy work to do

>> No.12411142

>>12411138
Sorry pumpkim, you're on the wrong side of history, and Biden is here to stay. Space policy goes my way now, the way of the Trumpkins is over, now and forever. No human will set foot on Mars we won't let you contaminate and pollute our pristine universe with your presence. You are the virus

>> No.12411145

>>12411141
The big boy work requires actual human development. I get that you wouldn't want to talk about that, since ULA and its parent companies have been having some trouble with that.
>two human crewed Dragon missions
>ULA can't launch
>Orion broken, takes a year just to open it up
>Starliner never worked to begin with

>> No.12411149

>>12411145
>SpaceX still struggling to recapture the capability of shuttle
>ULA still the most reliable launch provider
>Orion is fine
>Starliner failure was overblown, pilots could have solved it easily

>> No.12411153

>Vulcan is going to fly a mission to the moon before starship even makes orbit
OH NONONONONO

>> No.12411155

>>12411149
Ohhh. Call the prospector, we've hit the cope vein.

>> No.12411160

>>12411141
My earliest space autism memories was watching the LCROSS mission when I was like 8, and going outside to look at the moon to see if I could see the dust cloud of the impact.

>> No.12411163

>>12411153
They can't keep getting away with it! Oh wait-- they can. Because NASA would never trust SpaceX with a lunar lander

>> No.12411168
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>>12411160
good lad

>> No.12411169

>>12411153
Just to be clear, you are saying that you would be proud to take six times longer to develop a lesser vehicle. Do you just take ULA's inferiority for granted that badly?

>> No.12411179

>>12411169
Doesn't matter, got results (not rhetoric)

>> No.12411184
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12411184

>the power of the Sun, in the palm of my hand...

>> No.12411187

>>12411179
Hey, if we have an understanding that's fine by me. If only all ULA stans knew their place like you do.

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>>12411187
*lands on mars in your path*

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>>12411187
>someone in my safe space doesn't suck elon's balls and stroke the shaft
>must be a ula shill
You are smart sir! but not smart enough. I fight for #TeamSpace

>> No.12411206

>>12411199
*launches humans while you're still stuck on the pad*
It's personnel, kid.

>> No.12411208

>>12411202
Don't start seething now, little stan boy.

>> No.12411210
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>>12411206
You will never be the Space Shuttle. Stop trying lmao

>> No.12411212

>>12411210
>SpaceX will never hold back spaceflight for 40 years
Well, yeah.

>> No.12411220

>>12411212
>20 years in
>still can't achieve shuttle capability on a single stack
You're half way there. in 20 more years, and your paypiggy ISS deobits soon, SpaceX won't have anything to sustain itself. There is no "space economy", it was always just sticky white goo in your pants after you awake from your fantasy.

>> No.12411230

>>12411220
>ISS deorbits before ULA ever launches a single human
>Starship right on its heels
Don't tease me with a good time, ULA stan.

>> No.12411240
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>>12411230
*gets you interested in space in the first place*

>> No.12411245
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12411245

R E S U L T S

O V E R

R H E T O R I C

>> No.12411246

>>12411240
Not really, I was turned off the spaceflight industry while watching the Shuttle program figuratively and literally crash and burn. But I've got nothing against anyone who was young and impressionable enough to dream big about ULA. We were all young and naive once.

>> No.12411255

>>12411220
>paypiggy ISS deobits soon, SpaceX won't have anything to sustain itself
>Gateway
>Starlink
>military sats
>communication sats
>earth monitoring sats
shoo shoo

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>>12411255
don't forget about climate science

>> No.12411264

>>12411260
don't forget to launch
oh, too late

>> No.12411283

what happened to this place? i thought this was spacex fan general. too many ula shills in here

>> No.12411299

>>12411283
There is really just the one ULA/Boeing shill and idiots always take his bait instead of ignoring it. He used to claim that Starliner was going to beat Crew Dragon and Starship would never leave the ground, we all know how that worked out.

>> No.12411303

>>12411283
The sheep always bleat as they are driven to the slaughter house.

They know that they will not get to claim they are winning after Starship lands. They also arent likely to know that won't be this launch. SN-8 will crater but the old space shills can feel the end of their philosophy coming. One of the launches will land. Then one will land for a second time. Soon one will land from orbit. The end starts this week... If the bloody thing ever launches.

>> No.12411308

>>12411299
Idiot who took the bait here, not sorry. You shouldn't have opinions if you aren't willing to submit them to the scrutiny of shitflinging.

>> No.12411317

>>12411308
>not sorry
nor is ULA for helping inspire the next generation of lunar and martian scientists

>> No.12411323

>>12410510
Where is proton

>> No.12411326

>>12410652
Q2 2000s

>> No.12411330

>>12411323
Right next to F9 1.0 you blind bat.

>> No.12411334

>>12411323
Right there next to the shuttle, although there was a 10% chance it didn't make it.
>>12411317
I don't deny taking bait but "ULA is so inspirational" is pretty lowball. No one really cares what kind of nostalgia zoomers have.

>> No.12411348

>>12410892
Oh please no. 500 Meters? Elon. What the fuck.

>> No.12411355

>>12410792
russia makes interesting mockups at least

>>12411184
>>12411088
https://youtu.be/JZc3OZr82dA?t=4
a classic. But really I doubt the RS-68s appreciates being abused like that

>>12411308
the opinions aren't sincere. It's the same repeating algorithm
>go to the most popular thread on the board
>identify point of contention with two distinct sides
>aggressively attack the more popular side
>get (you)s
>later in the get meta ("oh no the thread is ruined this is terrible")
Take posts at face value. If a post is using words like "seething", "cope", or gets comically and aggressively political its purpose is not to discuss but to raise a shitfit.

>> No.12411358

>>12411317
>>12411334
it feels more like the payloads are the main source of inspiration for most people and the rockets are just an afterthought
only specific rocket nerds ever cared for the lauchers

>> No.12411363

>>12411283
Its one or two shills samefagging

>> No.12411364

>>12411348
overpromise, underdeliver. it's the elon way

>> No.12411365

>>12411358
Pretty much. Other than the Saturn V and the Shuttle no one but hardcores cared about launchers before SpaceX. And the Shuttle was a modern tragedy.

>> No.12411371

>>12411348
Its a static fire

>> No.12411374

>>12411348
Bet the FAA refused to allow the launch when Elon was candid about the chance of failure. Should have pretended confidence and said "oohh no how could this have happened" when it splattered on some sea turtles.

>> No.12411379

>>12411348
damn it really is all just rhetoric

>> No.12411383

So on Dec 10th SpaceX is going to launch SiriusXM's SXM-7 to geostationary transfer orbit and then land the booster downrange. Apparently this sat weighs 7000 kg. But according to wikipedia's numbers the F9 shouldn't be capable of doing this while being reusable? I'm guessing their numbers are just bullshit or what?

>>12411348
look at the dates, dummy

>> No.12411384

>>12411374
Its a static fire, not a launch.

>> No.12411396

>>12411384
I was mostly 'avin a laugh but that does still mean they don't have clearance for the hop, unless there is another notice. FAA is dragging this one out, probably because of the review which I believe is still in progress.

>> No.12411401

>>12411396
FAA won't give clearance for this one until after SLS launches for Artemis 1 in 2024

>> No.12411402
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>>12411383
>SXM-7
>R-4D-15 HiPAT, 4 × SPT-100 plasma thrusters

>> No.12411403

>>12411396
Faa are on ula payroll

>> No.12411406

ULA chad here. When I came here today to educate you all on exactly what a real launch company looks like, I expected to be all alone. Alas, there was another. We ULA chads are rare indeed, but when we come together, we can do great things. Results over rhetoric cannot simply be a slogan. It cannot just be even more rhetoric. Results over rhetoric must be a result in itself. ULA has proven time and again that we are all capable of greatness. ULA inspires the future while spacex, yet again, per the usual, disappoints. From LRO to New Horizons, difficulty be damned, ULA does what needs to be done. Humanity deserves results.

ULA chad out.

>> No.12411409

SpaceX chad here
fuck urf, fuck boeing, and fuck ULA

>> No.12411412

>>12411406
My boipucci is wet, plow me please

>> No.12411414

>>12411402
And in case you're wondering what that thing is for, read this.

https://www.rocket.com/article/aerojet-rocketdyne-celebrates-100th-high-performance-apogee-thruster-flight

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>double aerospike

>>12411402
damn that thing is jacked

>> No.12411417

>>12411415
Never talk to me or my son ever again.png
But seriously what the fuck is this?

>> No.12411420

>>12411415
The plasma thrusters are just for station keeping, but that old hypergolic tooter there that's derived from the apollo program and very much refined over the years will be doing the orbit raising of the satellite. A ~7t satellite doesn't need to be handheld all the way to orbit.

>> No.12411425

>>12411406
Thank you, you are appreciated

>> No.12411436

>>12411415
this is arcaspace tier, absolutely gypsy scam pilled

>> No.12411443

>>12411436
>arcaspace
lol, if they ever make it past the karman line, any gold foil better watch out.

>> No.12411476

>>12411283
Have you tried not falling for the bait?

>> No.12411479

>>12411348
500 meter TFR has been here for MONTHS, educate yourself

>> No.12411486

>>12411402
It’s kind of odd when you consider that seemingly mundane satellites are still highly advanced spacecraft, often with their own propulsion systems.

>> No.12411488

>>12411486
At least when you reach a certain size of satellite, yes. Smaller satellites usually only have reaction wheels and maybe small electric thrusters for station keeping. Big lads like this are indeed spacecraft.

>> No.12411489

>>12411436
>this is arcaspace tier
EcoRocket is literally arca’s newest vehicle design, so you’re right.

>> No.12411490

>>12411283
Don't worry, they are sad miserable people and get bored easily. Just reply with "sneed"

>> No.12411499

>>12411436
It's green and eco dude
I'm sold

>> No.12411507

>>12411490
Got jannie'd once for replying with 'sneed'

>> No.12411508

>>12411415
>>12411436
>>12411443
>>12411489
>>12411499
https://youtu.be/pbIUjd8WFKA
Their CEO/head fraudster made a whole keynote presentation about this fucking thing. The whole video is worth watching if you have the time.

>> No.12411509

What's the holdup on the hop again?

>> No.12411516

>>12411509
Waiting for SpaceX counter sniper teams to set up a perimeter.

>> No.12411517

Supposedly someone posted new details about the hop on L2?

>> No.12411524

>>12411508
this entire thing just SCREAMS scam.

>> No.12411536

>>12411524
The CEO was arrested for fraud/embezzlement when his company was still in the US. The charges were later dismissed without prejudice, but he more or less fled the country after he was released.

>> No.12411541

>>12411536
the big oil and old space were afraid of him
he's the real deal, unlike Musk (who is a fraud and a con artists)

>> No.12411542

>>12411508
don't they realize the planned per launch cost of starship is 2 million dollars/launch

>> No.12411552

>>12410484
>lager
Germans never really change

>> No.12411557

>>12411552
>Going to space without your Romfahrtbrau
Never gonna make it.

>> No.12411565
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Are mechanical compression suits a meme? If they are, could they be fixed?

>> No.12411568

>>12411565
no
yes, by competent engineers with actual incentives to finish them and get them to market

>> No.12411588

>>12411355
Nigs will never learn. Only way to win is not play.

>> No.12411591

>>12411035
Because checking your brakes when doing an oil change is bad, right?
Or are you using one of those "expendable" cars? Reusable cars are the future anon.

>> No.12411593

>>12410792
>ADIDAS
ALL DAY I DREAM ABOUT SEX

>> No.12411660

>>12411542
yes, but they still try to argue that cost per launch is more important than cost per kilogram when their scam rocket would only be able to launch 10 kg at a time

>> No.12411675

https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_0_8392.html
My uncle at the FAA just sent me this. Apparently they just approved the TFR.
https://imgur.com/a/tLPLxV3

>> No.12411692

>>12411675
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.12411714

>>12411066
They flare methane at wells too anon, and they do it regularly as a standard operating practice, not an emergency measure. The oil fuel industry largely considers methane to be a sideproduct that isn't economical to capture.

>> No.12411720

>>12411660
so they're pretty much just trying to ripoff retarded investors who don't know anything about space

>> No.12411722

>>12411415
>>12411436
Bro it's painted green, it must be good for the environment, which is also green!!!

>> No.12411727

>>12411692
shut the fuck up

>> No.12411735

>>12411727
cope blue balls

>> No.12411760

Is startship going to attempt 15km today?

>> No.12411763

https://www.ulalaunch.com/explore/blog-detail/blog/2020/12/02/vulcan-centaur-rehearsal-helps-shape-new-rocket's-countdown-formula
vulcan when

>> No.12411766

>>12411760
Not today, but it will somewhere
From December 04, 2020 at 1400 UTC
To December 06, 2020 at 2300 UTC

>> No.12411767

>>12411766
Thank you <3

>> No.12411769

>>12411727
ksy faggot

>> No.12411773

>>12411675
>SFC-UNL
wew
Do they think they can accidentally go to space?

>> No.12411774

>>12411508
Hippies to the space, weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>> No.12411788

>>12411078
It was never a 50km hop you auditorially dyslexic autist.

>> No.12411792

>>12411788
150 km hop?
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.12411797

>>12411792
I'm getting tired of waiting for this 1,500 km hop, it better fly soon

>> No.12411800

>>12410354
No, it's a shriveled head with a mock up body.

>> No.12411805

>>12411517
What did they say?

>> No.12411809

500 km hop ?
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.12411814

>>12411800
Not true.

>> No.12411817

>>12411809
2AU hop SOON

>> No.12411818

>>12411797
moon hop when?

>> No.12411821
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>>12411818
NOW

>> No.12411822

69,420 km hop?
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.12411833

When is the next starship hop? Have Musk already confirmed it?

>> No.12411846

>>12411833
Elon was replaced with a double in Germany, SpaceX belongs to angela merkin now

>> No.12411857
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12411857

ELON MUSK IS GONNA HOP TODAY
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.12411862

>>12411846
all part of the grand plan

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>>12411857
>ELON MUSK IS GONNA HOP TODAY
>LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.12411872

>>12411760
Not To-day but Two-day from to-day

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>>12410012
>(if you believe them)
if ((((((((YOU)))))))) can't stop being cucked out of your mind, consider the possibility it is real, otherwise go back to that hellhole board where such retarded shit belongs.
Seethe more you dumbass fucking burgers. Yes the 2nd biggest economy on Earth can do what you did 50 years ago, no need to turn it into a psyop bros.

>> No.12411881

>>12411877
Hello know-nothing. If you were around, you would understand the context.

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>>12411881
I am around and in you all the time. Forever.
Quick question: how does it feel to have a nation of farm-peasants show you up on the world stage? Are you planning to maybe spend 0.0001% more of the budget to retaliate with spacekino?

>> No.12411894

>>12411872
Thank two <3

>> No.12411897
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>>12411891
It is very impressive of China to have now caught up to 1970s Soviet Russia. Good for them, not so much for their rural villagers. Duck and cover Chang!
Also someone update this old chart, needs a few additions.

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>>12411891

>> No.12411904
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>>12411897

>> No.12411909

>>12411891
Lol catch up to what? Only the US has achieved manned moon flight, the chinks are still trying to do one by 2030

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>>12411897
>your government will never give you a free rocket engine
why liv

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>>12411909
We must be vigilant brother. Never underestimated the asian locust

>> No.12411918

>>12411909
Interesting that the US only took three years between their first lander and putting men on the moon, but China thinks climbing that same slope will take China several times as long.

>> No.12411928

>>12411918
Maybe they feel like NASA is not going to do shit. I mean we did move back the Artemis program.

>> No.12411936

>>12411928
Given modern manufacturing techniques, they should be able to do it in a fraction of the time. But unfortunately for the chinks, the US hasn't done it recently so the chinks will have a hard time stealing all the designs and will instead have to think for themselves for once. Not an easy task for insectoids.

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>>12411909
Mocking the chinks is like being a fit healthy person and saying how better you are than the disabled retard in an athletics race.
As a prominent and erect western shitposter with no space program I feel an obligation to stir shit here.
I hope they fucking copy the shit out of starship and blatantly murder thousands of villagers while losing dozens of Chinkonauts.
The west has become weak, we can happily lose millions to a virus easily contained but 5 people dead who eagerly signed up knowing the risk of spaceflight, oh no no no, worst tradegy on Earth, lets postpone spaceflight for the next decade.
Prepare your salty angus burgers, the first country to stop giving a fuck will win in space, and mark my words it aint gonna be fagcentral USA where even one death of a person who happily signed up knowing all the risks got memed.
Check yourselves, before you wreck yourselves.
Also praise our chink overlords who will rule space forever.

>> No.12411943

>>12411913
Me on the left preparing to roast peking duck

>> No.12411945

>>12411943
That's a seriously hot wok!

>> No.12411949

>>12411805
Idk I dont have L2, I was hoping someone else would post it.

>> No.12411956

>>12411913
I wonder if he got a free serving of spicy nitrogen too

>> No.12411962

>>12411936
Thats true but they got the force of will to brute force shit. It would be better to show them up before they spread across the stars.

>> No.12411997
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A newer TFR appeared
https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_0_8423.html

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Tyler "Nick" Hague will become the second Space Force astronaut. The first will be Michael Hopkins, who is currently aboard the ISS and still needs to be sworn in afaik.
https://www.congress.gov/116/crec/2020/11/30/CREC-2020-11-30-pt1-PgS7112-5.pdf

>> No.12412008

>>12411997
>only 3 days
I was expecting 1-2 weeks.

>> No.12412016

>>12412008
It maybe due to TFR encroaching into active airport (brownsville airport) exclusion zone

>> No.12412023

>>12412005
I'm in awe at the size of this lad.

>> No.12412027
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>the ISS will have 11 people on it for a month
what the fuck

>> No.12412029

>>12411997
>from surface up to unlimited
wtf bros I didn’t know it was gonna fly to the other side of the universe

>> No.12412032

>>12412027
I can’t imagine that being very comfortable

>> No.12412033

>>12411997
>From surface up to unlimited
SpaceX will launch Starship on an interstellar trajectory

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>>12412005
Wonder if Musky will lend them Crew Dragon, or they will have to wait for Dream Chaser.

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>>12412027
> best space orgies ever

US planning to patrol the moon in case of communism:
https://spacenews.com/moon-patrols-could-be-a-future-reality-for-the-u-s-military/
Also: Fuck jannies, fuck warnings. Just Ban me you retards or give the fuck up. Does my global opinion hurt your small precious burger fefes? I know it does so deeply and I will continue to mock the US socialist jobs space program all I want. Grow a spine you pussies, just ban me if you can't handle the truth as I see it.
Move to NK after that too.

>> No.12412045

>>12412042
Uh oh someones mad lmao

>> No.12412048

>>12411891
God dammit, don't steal my image just to bait post about chinks.

>> No.12412056

>>12412042
Failure to cope.

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sounds like Firefly is getting close to flying

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>>12412065

>> No.12412075

>>12412048
link to the girl? im feeling a tingling in mine peepee

>> No.12412088

>>12412065
thats a pretty aesthetic paint job

>> No.12412089

>>12411078
ULA can't do shit.

>> No.12412096

>>12412075
https://www.instagram.com/sarahfuckingsnyder/

Who would have thought she wasn't really into spaceflight despite wearing a NASA jacket?

>> No.12412098

>>12412027
I misread, there will be 11 people for about two weeks, not a month. This makes it what, three times that the ISS will have more than 7 people on it for a significant amount of time next year? I hope this is a good sign for the future where increasing amounts of people are in space.

>> No.12412101

>>12412096
well yeah, the picture was taken in a kfc or something

>> No.12412111

>>12412065
Cool.....engine plate cluster thingy?

>> No.12412116

>>12412098
I'm not so sure there will still be an ISS in a few years since a lot of the sections are worn out already, but rather several smaller stations.

>> No.12412132

>>12412065
>>12412071
They were aiming for flight by the end of the year only a month or two ago, but I can't see that happening if the second stage is still on the test stand. I just want another of these smallsat launchers to finally succeed.

>> No.12412139

>>12411541
This is not even bad bait.

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>> No.12412150

>>12412140
slimes is great

>> No.12412153

>>12412116
I think it will be around until 2030. Axiom is currently planning on it being around until 2028 and Congress wants it to last through the decade.

>> No.12412156

>>12412132
Speaking of smallsat launchers, apparently Astra may be launching again as soon as next week.

>> No.12412162

>>12411938
Based.

>> No.12412167

>>12412116
If anything, I'd like to see the ISS's pressurized compartments replaced and rearranged so it's a ship that could go into a stable orbit. The ISS is still in the thermosphere, and that's why its orbit is shit, as it is still dragged by minute amounts of air.
>>12412140
Now draw her using a dildo shaped like a starship

>> No.12412171

>>12412065

That is a big rocket for supposedly a smallsat launcher. How much can it put into LEO? More then 1000KG?

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>>12412167
>Now draw her using a dildo shaped like a starship
You'll have to subscribe to her OnlyFans for that sort of content.

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>>12412088
true. It looks pretty nice

>>12412171
Good eye. 1000KG exactly, in fact. Also it's pretty cool to watch people really master keralox. This isp is pretty nuts

>> No.12412192

>>12412098
It wouldn't have been any issue if ISS got actually completed.

>> No.12412195

>>12412189

Thanks for the information, I hope it does well on the market.

>> No.12412210

>>12410971
based

>> No.12412211

is new glenn cancelled?

>> No.12412212

>>12412116
Ivans are free to detach MIR II at any time, but they can't afford to maintain their own space station and they know it.

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electron prepping for its launch on the 12th

>> No.12412222

>>12411317
inspiration is worth jack shit.
It's right down there with 'potential'.

>> No.12412248

>>12412211
Can't cancel something that never existed

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>>12412189
speaking of high isp keralox
>365s

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>>12412253
this company's rocket is more similar in size to Electron than Firefly's Alpha 1. They're making some pretty big promises. The smallsat market is going to get really interesting in the coming years

>> No.12412264

>>12412098
This is pretty much the trajectory without starship. With starship you'll see hundreds of people in space possibly within this decade, and thousands of people by the next decade.

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>>12412258
wonder if firefly will ever get around to making this thing

>> No.12412269

>>12412258
the name tells you all you need to know. they're not serious

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Bros, how the fuck (and more importantly why the fuck) do people like him end up at SpaceX?

>> No.12412290

>>12412287
By SpaceX being based in california.

>> No.12412291

>>12412287
>don't worry about my pronouns
>views very much my own
>quick acronym glossary for those interested
What seems to be the problem?

>> No.12412293

>>12412287
Spacex cares about skill, capability, and work ethics. He's obviously talented enough for the job.

>> No.12412294

>>12412287
Autists are smart, but are easily brainwashed. Wiggers like him won't be going on mars.

>> No.12412297

>>12412253
Four turbines normal for a closed cycle?

>> No.12412298

>>12412287
You should get a job anon. You'll find out that most people aren't crazies like online, and can put aside their views at work.

>> No.12412303

>>12412293
yep. See: Elon talking about his worry with hiring people in a recent interview. He said something like, 'with our current hiring methods (at Tesla), would we have ourselves hired Nikolai Tesla? He came from this weird no-name university in Europe, had odd mannerisms and was a bit of a spaz, and didn't have any real work experience. How many Nikolais are we missing out on hiring because they don't fit with modern hiring practices and related discrimination?'

>> No.12412309

>>12412189
This rocket can compete with Electron simply by having a larger fairing to fit more than 5 dove cube sats

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>>12412269
sounds like they're still pretty early in development. Have just recently moved up to full-scale engine testing. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClpfWREerz8Xdt-UNJHeJ5A/videos

In markets like these getting there first (like rocketlab) is important. They may arrive on the scene too late.

>>12412211
New Glenn is weird. We've seen absolutely nothing of the actual rocket itself. It's a surprisingly ambitious design and frankly I'm not sure that they're up for the challenge. At least not in a reasonable time frame. And I'm still not sure how they're going to make landing on a retrofitted ferry *that has people on it* work. Sounds kinda pie-in-the-sky right now. It doesn't inspire confidence either that New Glenn didn't make the USAF's cut for 2nd round funding.

>> No.12412314

>>12410916
cool

>> No.12412322

>>12412293
>>12412287
>video engineer
he doesn't actually design the rockets, guys

>> No.12412323

>>12412258
>>12412253
Does this rocket exist?
>>12412269
Hard to say which one you're talking about. The company called "Launcher" or the company named after a reddit-tier cancelled sci-fi tv series.

>> No.12412332

>>12412322
What's the difference? If a tranny works on Starship you spergs will be forever repelled from it like Dracula from garlic or what? The only thing that matters is whether someone is an asshole.

>> No.12412333

>>12412310
We have seen New Glen parts just the same as we have seen empty factories.

https://www.space.com/blue-origin-new-glenn-rocket-coming-together-videos.html

Hmm can't find the source of the second statement.

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>>12412333

>> No.12412344

>>12412323
>Does this rocket exist?
still paper at this point

So what other smallsat companies are on the horizon? If I remember right one of them had their rocket blow up a few months ago but I can't recall the name.

>> No.12412347

>>12412294
That's not what wiggers are. Wiggers aren't autistic nerds. Wiggers are the guys with face tattoos or gauge earrings who listen to rap music, wear clothing 5 sizes too large, flunk out of shop class in highschool, and pretend they grew up in a californian hood even though they were born in the same Kansas town as you.

>> No.12412349

>>12412156
Nice, can't be surprised they are keeping launch dates low key after all the hype.

>> No.12412350

>>12412332
it's 4chan, what do you expect?

>> No.12412351

>>12412342
Thanks!

>> No.12412353

>>12412344
black lives matter

>> No.12412355

>>12412333
>>12412342
Very sus. I wonder if Jeff Bezos is being ripped off by con artists, or if he's in on the scam.

>> No.12412359

>>12412332
>If a tranny works on Starship you spergs will be forever repelled from it like Dracula from garlic or what? The only thing that matters is whether someone is an asshole.
Why on earth did you assume all of that? Of course it doesn't matter. If someone is competent/intelligent enough to contribute value while also not being destructive to the team then nothing else matters.

>> No.12412360

>>12412332
>If a tranny works on Starship you spergs will be forever repelled from it like Dracula from garlic or what?
Mentally ill people shouldn't be given a position where they could possibly kill other people or create damages worth millions of dollars, especially if they only got the job because of affirmative action.

Also, you'll never be a woman, just want to make that clear.

>> No.12412365

>>12412350
I expect /sci/entists to be rational.

>> No.12412373

>>12412355
The larger a company the easier it is for everyone to be just a little lazy. The cumulation of this nothing gets done fast and everyone covers for each others lack of speed. SpaceX and RocketLab are merucles in this regard.

>> No.12412376

>>12412373
Blue Origin isn't big though. They're not part of Amazon, though it's conceivable that they could be slacking off while Jeff Bezos has his attention taken up by Amazon.

>> No.12412378

>>12412360
>>12412359
>>12412347
>>12412332
>>12412322
>>12412291
Rent free. Here are some (you)s spend em on better material.

>> No.12412380

>>12412365
If you think someone who unironically believes they're a woman because they took female hormones and chopped off their dick can be rational, you're so far removed from reality that you shouldn't even be able to go out in public without another person watching your every move and making sure you don't do something retarded.

>> No.12412381

>>12412378
Why did you respond to me? My comment has nothing to do with trannies.

>> No.12412384

>>12412376
At 2500 that's a fair point. Maybe they just suck?

>> No.12412385

>>12412380
Doesn't prevent someone who believes in meme magic and 4D chess from being interested in rocketry so why not. Personal beliefs are not that important if they don't interfere with the occupation.

>> No.12412392

>>12412342
why cant this be a real article

>> No.12412394

>>12412381
Cought in the cross fire

>> No.12412397

Blue Origin is working on a true SSTO, expected to be unveiled by 2030. That's why they've been so secretive. Elon Musk is going to get MOGGED.

>> No.12412417

>>12412359
>Why on earth did you assume all of that?
I guess just doing what humans do best: steadily improving pattern recognition due to constant exposure.

>>12412360
Neither will you ever be sane, but at least neither of us wanted to achieve the respective goal.

>> No.12412420

>>12412397
one day, amazon will be forced to fly packages p2p with starship because it's the only affordable option

>> No.12412422

>>12412397
by what, its pitiful payload capacity?

>> No.12412424

>>12412258
By the time they get this rocket off the ground RocketLab will have paid off its development and probably even Firefly. Let alone New Glen and Starship.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/11/meet-launcher-a-company-building-a-rocket-engine-with-eight-employees/

>> No.12412428

>>12412385
Literally no one who works at SpaceX seriously believes in meme magic, you absolute fucking retard. If you want to get hired because you created a gangrenous wound between your legs and insist that people call you zer, try NASA, otherwise fuck off and stop supporting something that is demonstrably bad for spaceflight.

>> No.12412431

>>12411409
based

>> No.12412433

>>12412428
Meme magic killed raptor

>> No.12412434

>>12412428
what sort of thrust can you get from gangrenous wound out-gassing?

>> No.12412437

>>12412287
>FFS - Facial feminization surgery
He is going to need a lot of that

>> No.12412439

>>12412434
What if you basically got reddit trannies hooked up to a machine that sucks out all the gases from their bodies trying to fight off infection and close the wound? Could we create an RCS medium of some sort?

>> No.12412440

>>12411591
No dumbass, he means retarded engineers will make it so that you need to take the entire front end of the car apart to access a burnt out headlight, because they didn't consider designing the thing to be serviceable.

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Could Von Neumann ships be made IRL? I think they could, but reproduction for them would take hellishly long.

>> No.12412445

>>12412428
>Literally no one who works at SpaceX seriously believes in meme magic
But I never insinuated that you do. Moreover, I didn't even narrow it down to SpaceX or working, it was just "interested in rocketry".

>> No.12412451

>>12412444
von neumann was a hack fraud

>> No.12412455

>>12411897
>China
>Yellow
porridge

>> No.12412456

>>12412451
Sure, but I still like the concept of giant robot space protists zooming around and reproducing. Could they work?

>> No.12412460

>>12412258
>The smallsat market is going to get really interesting in the coming years
I would like to see more newspace companies succeed, but I don't like the smallsat launcher business case. That rockets scale up better than down is a simple matter of physics and it bares out in the economics, Rocketlab is not an especially cheap launch option for its payload. The sole moat for small launchers is that they can make a return without a big rideshare and so give each payload a dedicated orbit, but that just needs larger rockets to field their own tugs or bring in third party services like Momentus to be disrupted.

>> No.12412461

>>12412444
nobody has ever made a 3D printer than can print 3D printers, but it doesn't seem too outrageous to suggest that it could be done

>> No.12412469

What are some of the most common misconceptions of spaceflight that most people have, and how can they be fixed?

>> No.12412471

>>12412469
Getting to space is just flying up really high

Fix it by making them play KSP

>> No.12412473

>>12412140
>you didn't think I was going to leave you behind, did you?

>> No.12412475

>>12412469
every rocket is a space shuttle
this can be fixed by screaming from the rooftops about the death of capitalism

>> No.12412478

>>12412445
>Stop reducing my argument down to the core issue while I try to hide the fact that diversity hires are almost always less qualified than other applicants and they create a insidious work culture that destroys companies from the inside out.

>> No.12412484

>>12412469
that it's mutually exclusive with fixing poverty and saving the environment.

>> No.12412486

>>12412484
how do you propose to solve this one?

>> No.12412487

>>12412475
>every rocket is a space shuttle

Isn’t every rocket with a capsule technically a type of space shuttle? It’s literally shuttling people from one place to another.

>> No.12412490

>>12412471
And what's your suggestion for people too cheap to buy ksp? Is there an open source off brand version?

>> No.12412492

>>12412486
by bringing the number of humans down to sustainable level

>> No.12412493

>>12412486
Have Corporatism and 3p society.

>> No.12412494

>>12412487
no fuck you
I blame this on the us government being fucking communists and doing command economy bullshit
>>12412490
is simple rockets free

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what did he mean by this?

>> No.12412504

>>12412498
starship heavy??

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Blue Origin COO leaving after 2.5 years on the job. No reason was given as to why he is leaving only that he is pursing other opportunities.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/02/jeff-bezos-blue-origin-coo-leaving-to-pursue-other-opportunities.html
OH NO NO NO

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>> No.12412510

>>12412504
mini ITS on falcon heavy

>> No.12412511

>>12412297
There's only one turbine in that design, anon. You're seeing one LOx impeller and two kerosene impellers on a single shaft design with the turbine that makes it spin in the center left. There's a low pressure kerosene impeller on the far right and a high pressure kerosene pump on the middle right. The low pressure pump feeds directly into the combustion chamber, but the high pressure pump needs to be able to spray fuel into the preburner, which is always the highest pressure volume in the engine. It'd be a waste of turbine power to bring all of the fuel up to preburner pressure since the preburner is oxygen rich and most of the fuel doesn't pass through it anyway.

>> No.12412512

>>12412494
>is simple rockets free
No it is not.

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https://waynehale.wordpress.com/2020/12/02/exploding-stovepipes/

SHUT UP EVERYBODY, IT'S WAYNE HALE TIME

>> No.12412515

>>12412486
holding democrats to their "party of science" rhetoric and forcing them accept that science justified itself.

>> No.12412521

>>12412498
Boosters looking too phallic

>> No.12412524

>>12412510
More like ITS Heavy

>> No.12412525

>>12412505
>Navy fag
Let the door hit him. Bezos' fetish for hiring military castoffs is a catastrophe for BO. Has he ever seen a military procurement program? These people cannot survive in any sensible business environment.

>> No.12412528

>>12412490
Pirate it. Or just link them this: https://what-if.xkcd.com/58/

>> No.12412529

>>12412385
>meme magic and 4D chess
Literal retardation. Wishful thinking doesn't alter reality.

>> No.12412533

>>12411025
>imagine a machinist drilling additional holes [...] because he felt he had to
Happens all the time without incident.

>> No.12412536

>>12412486
Turn poor people into rocket fuel, rather than drilling for oil.

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fuck jannies

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>>12412486
I'm a fan of using current momentum to reach one's goals. I mean, the movement is already there so you might as well make use of it.

In this specific case you could fight off "we need to focus on our planet first" positions by co-opting rage against boomers. Something like: "THEY got to experience the moon landings, but are saying that WE can't do the same because we have to devote our entire lives to cleaning up THEIR mess??? No. We will not give up our dreams just because you fucked up the planet. We do both "

There are many other ways you can go about this. It's actually kinda fun taking current trends and altering their trajectory so that they better service humanity. If you really wanted to be completely unapologetic about it you could, for instance, construe people against new moon landings as being racist, because the REAL reason they don't want new moon landings is because they don't want minority groups on the moon in the history books. It's a bit ridiculous, but hey, pic related.

>>12412498
what the hell is that?

>> No.12412541

>>12412490
KSP has a free demo

>> No.12412543

>>12412469
Many people genuinely believe the earth to be flat. If I had to estimate, it'd be at least a few million in the US.
This is not necessarily a misconception limited to just space flight, but it is 100% an example of how badly science educators have failed at least the last 2 generations
i don't really know how to fix it, as slick youtube videos and bastardized forms of American Christianity are the main culprit, but something needs to be done.
On a related note, about 1 in 10 people believe the moon landings were fake, so take that as you will. That's gotten better in recent years though.

>> No.12412544

so....
Do we actually believe the CCP pulled of this moon mission?

>> No.12412547

>>12412543
We should make a flat world just to see how it would work.

>> No.12412549

>>12412544
it's not like this is the first time they've landed something on the moon

>> No.12412551

>>12412544
other than the vague suspicion that the CCP is always lying, there's no real reason to believe they didn't do it

>> No.12412554

>>12412353
No lives matter, we are all as dust

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JFK knew

>> No.12412559

>>12412514
>As an older white guy, it also gives me a really positive hope for the future in the diversity now exhibited in leadership roles. Something I learned early is that diversity and the exchange of ideas frequently leads to better outcomes than when the team is all alike. Many more positions are filled by women (inherently smarter than men, I think) but more needs to be done to gain the perspective that people of color bring. It’s a societal problem that reflects itself in a technical work force. More mentoring and opportunities down to the grade school level need to be available.
>inherently smarter than men, I think

>> No.12412561

>>12412544
LROC has taken pictures of their rovers
http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/posts/1168

>> No.12412563

Does anyone else believe in the premise from Orion’s Arm that significantly more intelligent entities would be able to create technologies utterly incomprehensible to us? Seems fairly logical to myself

>> No.12412566

>>12412544
Just wait for the independent conformation. They can't hide the lander (or lack of one) forever.

>> No.12412567

>>12412544
the cut stream was conflicting messages was extremely sketchy, but on the other hand they do have some shitty video i guess.

Anyways, I'm cool with it being accepted that they did it because I want another space race.

>> No.12412568

>>12412559
if you're hating on Wayne Hale you're not welcome here

>> No.12412569

>>12412563
no
complexity can lead to strange and difficult to understand things happening but the capabilities of those complex systems will always be limited by real physics

>> No.12412572

>>12412444
Without AGI probably no. And you really wouldn't want to put AGI on a von neumann probe anyways.

>> No.12412573

>>12412563
Yeah in principle, but technology that is effectively magic is so boring to talk about. It's like writing an essay about how to start a fusion economy and stating, "well, with infinite resources and energy, we can build an orbital ring that dips into Neptune for the deuterium". There is no good reference point to discuss how the tech will be used, and pretty much any prediction can be justified.

>> No.12412574

>>12412525
They make excellent people managers though. Here's a trick I learned from an ex-navy guy I used to work for: Whenever a coworker refuses an order, ask them "Are you unable to do this, or just unwilling?" That question really lights a fire under people's asses. Ex-Navy officers have all sorts of tricks like this, they're great at fucking with people and getting people to do their jobs.

>> No.12412575

>>12412563
not incomprehensible in the way that we couldn't recognize it as technology, which I assume is his point. Our ability to recognize artificial vs natural probably doesn't change until the point where technology and nature converge.

>> No.12412577

>>12412569
What makes you so sure humans can understand all there is to understand about physics?

>> No.12412578

>>12412493
This

>> No.12412582

>>12412569
>meet aliens smarter than humans
>they're stuck in their planetary sphere of influence because they keep buying into memes that demand overcomplicated designs that suit their autism but don't actually work out well in the long term
RS25ians

>> No.12412583

>>12412568
i'm hating on being marginalized tankie

>> No.12412592

>>12412573
I love the topic of practically magical technology myself, and literal magic. I have strong religious desires but am too empirical to believe in any existing religion, so I’ve always figured I’d revere AGI as a god if and when it came about, and treat replacing my body with something synthetic as a sort of transcendence.

>> No.12412593

>>12412433
Raptor isn't dead though

>> No.12412595

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf_YbpZn5xI
A Liquid Methanol/LOX rocket engine. Pretty neat red plume.

>> No.12412596

>>12411675
>My uncle at the FAA just sent me this
Wait, so you actually have an uncle at the FAA? I honestly just assumed you’ve been bullshitting for the past few days.

>> No.12412598

>>12412593
It never was, just one or two shills were samefagging.

>> No.12412601

>>12412563
That seems obvious. The technological gap of a single century is incomprehensible to people; a gap of a thousand or million or billion years wouldn't be like mere magic but godlike powers.
>>12412575
Dogs think robot dogs are real dogs.

>> No.12412603

>>12412511
Good stuff boss

>> No.12412606

>>12412444
Yes, a von neumann probe is just a cloud of space habitats and factories large enough to be industrially self sufficient.

>> No.12412609

>>12412514
When price is no concern.

>> No.12412611

>>12412510
Looks like SuperHeavy boosters, not F9s.

>> No.12412612

>>12412498
oh fuck TSTO bros we got too cocky

>> No.12412613

>>12412494
You're one of those people who thinks anyone left of Ayn Rand is a communist, aren't you?

>> No.12412616

>>12412287
Yeah I remember him doing the old spacex streams and him posting on r*dd*t about them. He went by bencredible there and on twatter.

>> No.12412618

>>12412510
>>12412504
That looks a lot like a 12 meter core with the ITS on top surrounded by three 9m boosters, what the fuck

>> No.12412621
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>>12412595
pretty sick. Wonder what their cooling solution was

>>12412511
thanks the explanation, anon.

>> No.12412623

>>12412618
>>12412498
..he did say that there were changes coming

>> No.12412624

>>12412583
look, he's got a bunch of real cool insights into how much of a fucking shitshow the shuttle program was
maybe you should try to learn from them, I know I'm reaching very different conclusions from Mr Hale

>> No.12412627

>>12412189
>firefly
>reaver engines
Gorram.

>> No.12412628

>>12412595
we need more interesting colors for rocket plumes
RP1 yellow is cool
Hydrogen blue is pretty
Methane purple is dank

>> No.12412631

>>12412601
dogs think people are real dogs
dogs think cats are real dogs
dogs are just very accepting creatures, they don't judge
we bred them this way
>>12412609
until suddenly it is and there's no money to implement the very easy fix that could save lives and millions of dollars in engineering monitoring

>> No.12412633

>>12412595
>aluminum chamber
intredasting, flame temp must be pretty mild if they can use a material that softens to the point of uselessness at ~300 celsius, even with a large coolant flow rate.

>> No.12412637

>>12412601
>The technological gap of a single century is incomprehensible to people
Honestly I disagree. Take a guy from the year 1000 into the modern day and he'd be bewildered obviously, but in a week he'd be relaxed and in a year you could get him educated and understanding how most things work better than the average modern person who was never interested in technology enough to bother learning (ie adults who don't understand how planes or electricity work).

>> No.12412641

>>12412541
>>12412528
I should also mention I use Arch and ksp isn't compatible.

>> No.12412647

>>12412628
Hydrazine and nitrogen tetroxide starts off glowing yellow then fades to purply-blue and almost transparent, it's too bad it kinda sucks in most ways.
CH3SH would be stinky but burn brilliant blue with fringes of purple in oxygen, it'd be kino. Isp would be low due to higher molecular weight, though.

>> No.12412651

>>12412647
cancer juice and spicy orange make orange smoke, anon
it's very distinctive
unless that's Proton just leaking

>> No.12412656

>>12412631
>dogs are just very accepting creatures, they don't judge
Not really true, sheltered dogs that were well socialized with other dogs as puppies and well socialized with humans their whole lives act like you describe, but a dog that was separated from the litter too early will be fearful and aggressive of other dogs, and a dog that has had bad interactions with humans will be shy of human interaction, and will likely be aggressive too. I hate this retarded rosy attitude towards heckin doggos as if they aren't just animals like us.

>> No.12412665

>>12412601
>The technological gap of a single century is incomprehensible to people
I think you greatly underestimate just how much of today's world would appear familiar to somebody from 1920.

>> No.12412669

>>12412665
they'd probably be pretty mad about all the authoritarian and bureaucratic bullshit

>> No.12412672

>>12412651
>unless that's Proton just leaking
It's literally just Proton leaking. Hydrazine and nitrogen tetroxide burn without any brown vapors or anything.

>> No.12412674

>>12412672
lmao

>> No.12412675
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>>12412156
>astra
damn this thing is tiny. Only 11.6m tall

>> No.12412676

>>12412656
>abuse dog
>it's now scared of people
Nobody disputed that, dogs are by nature accepting but smack one around enough and it will bite you.

Unlike leftists, who can literally have their family murdered by refugees and still protest for more refugees.

>> No.12412681

>>12412669
Neither planes nor cars would blow their minds. The current state of space flight would probably disappoint them. Computers would doubtlessly be interesting, but they would be familiar with the premise of mechanizing and automating mathematical procedures; so you could get them up to speed on the premise of computers pretty quickly. Global communication networks would be nothing new, nor would the premise of recorded audio or video. The quality of our A/V technology would doubtlessly impress them, as would the extent to which it permeates society, but you'd not be blowing their mind with inconceivable things.

They would also likely be deeply unimpressed with many of our social developments, but that's a story for another board.

>> No.12412684

>>12412675
>the rocket is only 2.6 meters taller than Starship is wide
>it would be able to lay sideways inside of the ITS oxygen tank prototype SpaceX had built in 2016 with over a foot to spare

>> No.12412685

>road closed 4 hours ago
>no testing until sunset
???

>> No.12412693

>>12412592
>oh so this is the strongest arm available, BUT it requires a facebook account
>and this one has the most dexterity, but a lot of people say you have to reboot it once a day or it tends to drop what you were holding
Here's your transcendence, bro.

>> No.12412697
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>>12412601
But they still don't know it's not bacon.

>> No.12412700

>>12412676
>dogs are by nature accepting
Dogs are by nature playful and social. They are only accepting of people by nurture. A dog must actually learn to be comfortable around humans. The same is true of wolves, but the period in their lives at which they can be socialized to human is extremely short. In dogs this time is extended massively, but a dog that was born and never saw a human until it was three years old would not immediately trot up with its tail wagging if you called to it. It would probably shit itself and run away from you.

>> No.12412706

>>12412498
Old photo I assume?

>> No.12412707

>https://twitter.com/Grimezsz/status/1333552538314960896
You just know

>> No.12412708

>>12412675
much smaller and we could call it a model rocket.

>> No.12412714
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>>12412707
>musk has a child with that thing

>> No.12412715

>>12412707
I like DFC as much as the next dude, but not this skele shit

>> No.12412718

>>12412676
>shoehorn in random bitching about leftists
>Trump lost, get over it.

>> No.12412726

>>12412707
shes kind of ugly...

>> No.12412730

>>12412718
>Zio don losing
oh wow im hurt

>> No.12412733

>SpaceX developing a new launch vehicle to revolutionize space travel
>Artemis is on the horizon in some form
>rise of private spaceflight
>other countries are catching up to the US and Russia
>a clear upwards trend in spaceflight
>some are still aggressively pessimistic about the future
Why are those people like that? I understand being cautious about some of the optimistic predictions, but it seems like some people outright wish that the future of spaceflight comes to disaster.

>> No.12412746

>>12412601
Have you seen the video where scientists try to spy on monkeys with a robot monkey, but the monkeys knock it over, then think they accidentally killed it, and have a fucking funeral for the “dead” fake monkey?

>> No.12412751
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>>12412746
I think its time brother.
Its time to return to monke

>> No.12412755
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>>12412726
>>12412715
>>12412714
>blocks your hop

>> No.12412756

>>12412755
why did you post the backwards one

>> No.12412764

>>12412733
because the minute something leaves the production line it is outdated and its developers have retired
the government that funds spaceflight doesn't give a shit about exploration only exploitation

>> No.12412765

>>12412733
>it seems like some people outright wish that the future of spaceflight comes to disaster.
While I don't share it, I do understand the mindset that fixing our screwups here is more important than shipping our screwups elsewhere.

>> No.12412775

>>12412765
I do understand its retarded.

>> No.12412791

Anyone have that photo of the von braun album cover?

>> No.12412809

>>12412258
Launcher is legit but they're not gonna make it. Between Virgin Orbit, Firefly, Astra, Relativity, a few others I'm probably forgetting, and Launcher if all the other companies in front of it and super-cheap rideshare fail, I imagine just 1 or 2 will truly make it.

>>12412706
The Axel Springer event was just yesterday. This is fresh.

>> No.12412810
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Cargo Dragon V2
She's beautiful bros...

>> No.12412819
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>>12412397
>expected to be unveiled by 2030

>> No.12412830

>>12412810
muh windows though

>> No.12412834

>>12412809
it's going to be a bloodbath for sure

>> No.12412837
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>>12412791
>The Magnus Maximilian LP is the third studio album by German-born American rapper Wernher von Braun, released on July 11, 1962, by National Aeronautics and Space Administration and Paperclip Records. The album was produced mostly by Oberth and von Braun, along with Ernst Stuhlinger, U.S. General Holger Toftoy, and Robert Lusser. Recorded over a two-month period in several studios around Huntsville, the album features more introspective lyricism, including von Braun's thoughts on his rise from rags to riches, the criticism of his music, and his estrangement from his family and wife. A transgressive work, it incorporates horrorcore and hardcore hip hop, while also featuring satirical songs. Featured appearances include Cernan, CEY, Thomas Stafford, Snoopy, and F-1.

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>>12412791
This one?

>> No.12412857

>>12412837
>V2 to London(don't be a ((hater)).)
>My sweet Home
>Who got ya to the Moon?(I did.)

>> No.12412866

>>12412857
>Windchime (Don't Be Slowest)

>> No.12412877

>>12412857
>Not My Department
>Boosters Please (featuring Oberth, Snoopy, and Gene Cernan)
>Rocketville (featuring Dick Shelby)
>The Real Rocketman

>> No.12412901

>>12412498
How do we counter this ULA bros?
I suggest Delta Super Heavy with no less than six boosters!

>> No.12412929

>>12412707
>this is some kid's mother
Elon needs to start patrolling this thot if he gives any shits about how his kid turns out. I know he probably doesn't, seeing as he has others.

>> No.12412933

>>12412810
>Smaller docking port
How are they going to ship racks to the station now? Cygnus?

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>>12412837
>no mention of his collab with The Notorious J.F.K.

>> No.12412938

>>12412933
they won't
also, cygnus

>> No.12412942

>>12412934
That was a separate album called Mooncore.

>> No.12412951

>>12412934
JFK was the last true American president. I will never forgive Israel for assassinating this man (https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/kennedy-letter-to-ben-gurion-regarding-visit-to-dimona))

>> No.12412963
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12412963

https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-falcon-9-rocket-moon-rc-car-race-frank-stephenson-2020-12

tf is this

>> No.12412970
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>>12412963
RALLY IS HAPPENING BROS

>> No.12413011

>>12412963
>partially designed, built, and raced by high school students
That's really awesome that it's become financially feasible to do stuff like this.

>> No.12413012

>>12412963
>argie and chink teams
Can i root for a crash?

>> No.12413014

>>12412397
The only realistic SSTO concepts I've seen with decent payload capacity are Skylon and a few theoretical 'Steam Rocket' vehicles driven by ground-based microwave arrays.

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>>12412963
nani?

>> No.12413019

>>12412963
hadn't heard of it, but it looks like a good thing. We really need to reframe the public's idea of what it takes to get to space and who space is for.

>> No.12413027

>>12412963
>>12412970
>RC rally with almost three seconds of latency
It's going to be lame as fuck. You're not going to get any exciting racing until somebody has the balls to put some real rally drivers up there to drive the cars in person.

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>>12413015

>> No.12413036
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12413036

>>12413027
>not having the controllers be in LLO so latency is lower
The Dragon 2 with Falcon Heavy can make that happen.

>> No.12413046

>>12413014
Delta Clipper would have worked if there had been the political will to fund it and iterate on it. It's no coincidence that Jeff Bezos / Blue Origin hired a bunch of guys that worked on it. They're working on a reusable SSTO. It can work, with enough payload for human passengers, but of course it's not going to be lifting heavy payloads, but that's not what it's for. Reusable SSTOs would be specifically for shuttling humans into and back from orbit.

People who assume that SSTOs can't work are operating off a just-world fallacy; they assume the Delta Clipper failed because the idea can't work, not because of petty political/funding reasons. But the truth is we live in a world where shit that could work often fails for shitty reasons unrelated to technical feasibility.

>>12413036
LLO period is what, like 2 hours? That might work, though it would limit the length of the race. For best low latency control maybe you'd limit the race to 30 minutes or so when the controllers are high above the horizon and relatively close.

>> No.12413053

>>12412963
>SpaceX plans to race remote-controlled cars on the moon in 2021, and has drafted in a legendary Ferrari designer to help
>The race is being organized by Moon Mark, a multimedia and education content company, which partnered with aerospace company Intuitive Machines.
nice clickbait

>> No.12413057

>>12413053
>SpaceX plans to race remote-controlled cars on the moon in 2021
What's the conversion of Elon-years to real-years again? I think it comes out to something like 2031 at best.

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>> No.12413062

>>12413057
This is literal-who-company-contracting-a-moon-lander-startup-contracting-SpaceX-years, not Elon-years, so probably never.

>> No.12413068

>>12413058
Is this a paraphrasing of a real exchange? I think I've heard somewhere that the astronauts hotdogged in these rovers to the chagrin of mission control.

>> No.12413102

>>12412505
I'm rapidly losing hope that they'll amount to much. How does a company that touts "millions of people living and working in space" expect to get there when they have seemingly no plans to launch people to orbit and have been dragging their heels on launching anyone even suborbital for years? What do they expect to accomplish by using oldspace's playbook, especially when they don't even have a shot at military contracts for several years? What market niches do New Shepard and New Glenn satisfy? How does the man behind Amazon's empire fall so flat here? Blue Origin would be dead on the water the second Bezos loses interest.

>> No.12413116

>>12413102
...SpaceX would be dead in the water if Elon musk lost interest?

>> No.12413135

>>12413057
SpaceX could arrange an unmanned moon launch in a handful of weeks at this point. It's really up to the people designing and building the lander.

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12413138

>>12413116
Wrong

>> No.12413143

>>12413138
This, as long as Shotwell is there all they need is to open the company and funding would pour in

>> No.12413152

>>12413135
Well if that's true, they should do it. It would be a huge flex on everybody.

>> No.12413156

>>12413138
rocket mommy

>> No.12413164

>>12413152
That's probably why they're entertaining this weird project. Get someone else to foot the bill while launching children's highschool projects to space to show how easy space access really is. Normally attaching yourself to this kind of project would be a bad idea since the chance of falling through is pretty high and it's a lot of wasted time and effort if that's the case.

>> No.12413175

>>12413164
Forget the lander, just putting a dragon capsule into lunar orbit then bringing it back, Apollo 8 style, would be a huge flex if they could execute it less than a year after announcing it.

>> No.12413208

>>12413046
Battery powered toys don't have long battery life anyway.

>> No.12413212

Starship SN8 testing LIVE

https://youtu.be/5CRDNHqx98M

No hop yet, just testing

>> No.12413218

Will Starhopper retain its crown on Friday?

>> No.12413219

>>12413164
It's probably also a way for the company making the lander to demo some features to potential customers.

>> No.12413223

>>12413208
They could burn nitromethane. Nitromethane is commonly used to power RC vehicles, and can also be used as a mono-propellant (though I'm not sure if it would work in any commercially available RC engine as a mono-propellant; I think all probably are air-breathers, because why wouldn't they be unless you were going to the moon?)

If not nitromethane, there are other fuels that could be used. For instance Otto Fuel II, used by the US Navy and others to power torpedoes, could be made to power lunar vehicles as well.

>> No.12413238

>>12413175
wasn't that the plan with Maezawa? Guess they figured just makes more sense to focus resources on starship

>> No.12413251

>>12413175
Couldn’t you turn a Dragon 2 into a moon lander by sticking on a service module with thrusters and fuel?

>> No.12413257

>>12413223
I mean, most of what we figure SpaceX will use for backup power until nuclear gets sorted out are methalox generators.
>>12413175
>>12413238
Maezawa was originally going to be a FH-launched Dragon, but they managed to up-sell him to Starship due to the similar price tag relative to his investment.

>> No.12413266

>>12413116
nah. Elon is great but don't underestimate Shotwell and the rest of the people at spacex. Elon only hires self-motivated people who are willing to work their ass off. Not oldspace rejects who just want to chill while they fill out their 401k

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cute drone!

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>>12412572
>ayys' first contact with humanity is finding a probe of ours with AGI, capable of self-replication, and creating production lines
Somehow I don't think that would leave a very good first impression.

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>>12413277

>> No.12413289

>>12413278
....Why not?

>> No.12413292

>>12413278
That depends on how many of itself (and whatever else it's been told to build) it builds. Consume a couple asteroids then quit and you're not a threat, devour a moon and people start getting worried.

>> No.12413293

>>12412675
the idea is to allow the rocket and its ground support systems to fit in two standard cargo containers so the US gov can secretly and rapidly launch satellites around the world at any time

>> No.12413295

What is happening with SN8? Did they just not make the closure window?

>> No.12413296

>>12412755
puts the size of even the launch pad into comparison.

>> No.12413301

>>12412598
no

>> No.12413306

>>12413295
I hear a wet dress rehearsal, but this is spacex so no one knows for sure

>> No.12413309

>>12413301
You think raptor was "dead"?

>> No.12413315

>>12413293
wow, that would be a hell of a niche for them if they can make it work

>> No.12413320

Detank

>> No.12413327

>>12413289
Because it would be like accidentally giving smallpox to the Indians but a million times worse and (sort of) on purpose.
>>12413292
Yeah but why would you ever have it build just a little bit of stuff when you could have it produce living space hundreds of times that of Earth in another star system prior to human arrival?
I think they'd still be pretty pissed even if it only consumed their asteroids. Also unless they are far less worried about AGI then we are then I think they'd find it incredibly reckless to give one effectively infinite and completely unsupervised power like that.

>> No.12413334

>>12413309
people were meming about honks when we hadnt had one in awhile then first static fire sn8 honked and they had to replace.

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sounds like rapvac testing is going well

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>>12412505
oof

>> No.12413345

>>12413339
why doesnt think cunt record this shit for us to hear?

>> No.12413357

>>12413334
it was never "dead" though. SpaceX never gave up on raptor engine development like some of the shills would have you believe

>> No.12413360

>>12413327
Easy, do it in their equivalent of an Oort belt. If they don't already have a system-wide laser propulsion network they can't do shit about the probe even if they can see the thing.

>> No.12413361

>>12412505
>2.5 years on the job
Does anyone know for how long COOs last on BO? 2 and a half years sounds a bit short for a rocket company that is not facing any immediate threats like BO

>> No.12413366

>>12413341
>3 more flights before humans
kek

>> No.12413368

wow testing sucks today. if the static fire gets scrubbed, do you think they are cool just skipping altogether?

>> No.12413371

>>12413368
Hasn't been cancelled yet

>> No.12413373

>>12413368
>>12413371
Wet dress reherseal -> static fire maybe today.

>> No.12413377

Page 10, thread staging
>>12413375
>>12413375
>>12413375

>> No.12413408

>>12413339
>ywn go balls deep in this mousy qt hippie-dippie new-age chick's primo hairy pussy then afterwards listen to her excitedly talk about roaring raptors while you smoke a cigarette

>> No.12413451

>>12413327
>Because it would be like accidentally giving smallpox to the Indians but a million times worse and (sort of) on purpose.

So?
The entire universe belongs to mankind. Aliens should be exterminated.

>> No.12413468

>>12413408
Hairy pussy is the best