/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.12273903]

humans mogged by the big D.

[Anonymous No.12273983]

>>12273903
>dat perspective
welp, got myself a new fetish

[Anonymous No.12273988]

>>12273903
They have psychic powers, we humans simply cannot compete.

[Anonymous No.12273999]

>>12273903
God brains look tasty

[Anonymous No.12274004]

Oldest known human: 122 years
Oldest known plant: 80,000+ years

Btfo

[Anonymous No.12274007]

>>12273903
The human fears the CETACEAN BVLL

[Anonymous No.12274086]

>>12274004
Oldest known bacteria: 250 million years

Eukaryote status: dabbed on

[Anonymous No.12274140]

>>12273988
the beam comes out the center fold. In humans the crack is too tight

[Anonymous No.12274214]

>>12273903
>90% of that brain power goes to socializing

[Anonymous No.12274229]

dolphin intelligence is overrated. yes i'm mad

[Anonymous No.12274275]

>>12273903
Compact and streamlined will always beat joy rigged and fit for purpose.

[Anonymous No.12274318]

>>12273903
>giant cerebellum and most of the cerebrum devoted to moving in water in any direction.
Wow its fucking nothing.

[Anonymous No.12274415]

>>12273999
I ate deep fried veal brain once. Tastes bland, like liver

[Anonymous No.12274488]

>>12273903
>bigger = better
Stop watching porn.

[Anonymous No.12274508]

I'm willing to bet that eventually, the longest-lived organism will be a human

[Anonymous No.12274510]

>>12274214
fuck imagine if dolphins had facebook/twitter/instagram
they would be hooked on that shit even harder than humans
literally 5kg of your brain purely dedicated to making sure you're liked by others
fuuuuuck

[Anonymous No.12274620]

>>12273903
we have left monke coz maller brain
dolphins stay as fish... they know better

[Anonymous No.12274624]

we have left monke coz smaller brain
dolphins stay as fish... they know better

[Anonymous No.12274629]

>>12274140
>the beam comes out the center fold. In humans the crack is too tight
I know you're meming but there's some real evidence the brain has at least two consciousnesses/selves - one in each hemisphere. Splitting the corpus callosum disconnects them and sometimes causes you to do things that one hemisphere is aware of but not the other.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfYbgdo8e-8

[Anonymous No.12274632]

>>12274086
How do you determine the age of a bacterium? Last time it underwent mitosis?

Kinda retarded. All bacteria are equally as old, couple billion of years.

[Anonymous No.12274643]

Dolphins are notorious for engaging in rape and even form rape gangs to facilitate the process.

[Anonymous No.12274681]

>>12273903
This isn't how brains work, smaller brains are actually more intelligent by and large because the neurons are more compacted so information is processed more quickly and precisely

[Anonymous No.12274713]

>>12274681
This. Einstein's brain was smaller than average.

[Anonymous No.12274714]

>>12273903
dolphins mogged by opposable thumbs H

[tripfag !X.Udl.ZfKQ No.12274715]

>>12274713
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein%27s_brain
>Scientific studies have suggested that the speech and language regions within Einstein's brain are smaller than average. Interestingly, the numerical and spatial processing regions in Einstein's brain are larger.

[Anonymous No.12274742]

>>12273903
Dolphin brain looks like one of those brains from smoking PSAs

[Anonymous No.12274748]

>>12273903
Sweet, an opportunity to post my stupid image.

[Anonymous No.12274763]

>>12274681
>>12274713
>>12274715
Neuron density and encephalization quotient are the most important things as far as I'm aware. Then follow that up with environmental stimulation and language/communication.

[Anonymous No.12274766]

>>12274763

[Anonymous No.12274779]

>>12274643
Wouldn't most animals having sex be considered rape? They can't consent.

[Anonymous No.12274797]

>>12274715
Sure, and? Does it say his brain was larger or smaller? Are you saying he was vocally impaired?
>>12274763
This.

[Anonymous No.12274804]

>>12274766
>mass = volume
I know where yours is on that graph.

[Anonymous No.12274885]

>>12274415
>like liver
wtf I love brain now

[Anonymous No.12274895]

>>12274804
no one claimed that but you.

[Anonymous No.12274907]

>>12273903
big brains and the retards still choose to live in water so they need to come up to breathe lmao.

[Anonymous No.12275050]

>>12273903
gross dolphin brains look like ballsacks

[Anonymous No.12275052]

>>12274895
>answer post about volume with mass graph without context
Sure thing, bud. You just wanted to post an informative graph, huh.

[Anonymous No.12275162]

>>12274779
Discussing insects raping each other is dumb but dolphins have high enough intelligence that some manner of consent likely is understood.

[Anonymous No.12275369]

>>12274766
>density
last I checked all primates have the same sized neurons

[Anonymous No.12275408]

>>12275369
There is space between neurons

[Anonymous No.12275461]

>>12273903
Why hasn't humanity enslaved dolphins yet

[Anonymous No.12275471]

>>12274629
Split brain stuff honestly spooks me so much.

[Anonymous No.12275516]

>>12275369
Different types of neurons have different sizes, and primates have different mixes of neuron types. That chart also has a logarithmic y-axis. About an order of magnitude more neurons over about an order of magnitude larger cerebral cortex gets us something like a scaled-up primate brain. Lo and behold
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2776484/

[Anonymous No.12275528]

>>12275461
What would be the porpoise?

[Anonymous No.12275559]

>>12274804
It went over your head clearly, but they posted that to show that the human brain is basically a scaled up primate brain, and that to imply that the quantities you highlighted aren't playing the dominant role in driving the observed differences between primates.

[Anonymous No.12275749]

>>12275559
>they posted that to show that the human brain is basically a scaled up primate brain,
Yes. I know.
>the quantities you highlighted
I only mentioned volume. That graph compares mass to number of neurons. Clearly you also think that mass and volume are the same.
>aren't playing the dominant role in driving the observed differences between primates
Yup, just like I said.

[Anonymous No.12275886]

>>12275749
Density is not inherently mass over volume.
Given differences in the sizes of various types of neurons, mass is a better metric than volume for this.
>Yup, just like I said
But unlike what >>12274763
said.

[Anonymous No.12275920]

[Anonymous No.12276365]

>>12274804
>>12275369
>>12274895
>>12275559
>>12275749
It's not about the density of the individual neurons, but more about the relationship between the density of the whole mass of neurons in relation to the encephalization quotient. The reason I posted two separate graphics is to show that Humans are very high on both spectrums. I wanted to post both together to give the context that Humans have a very high brain to bodymass ratio, and that Humans have a relatively high neuron density among most animals.

This is why Humans in most cases and considering most things are smarter than pretty much all other primates, because even though we have similar neural structure and density in comparison to most primates we have bigger brains which allows us to dedicate more of that brain mass as well as that high neural density to things that aren't specifically related to controlling our bodies.

I never said that Volume = Density, I'm an idiot but I'm at least literate on my good days

I never said that raw mass or even the amount of neurons on it's own was even important. If it was then I would be fucking posting that elephants and whales are the smartest fucking things on the planet.

Brain weight on it's own is a spook. Corvids are fucking geniuses in the animal kingdom, but their brains get mogged in size by thousands of other animals. The simplest explanations without getting into the details about how bird brains are super underrated are down to a high brain to body ratio and a high neuron density.

Now, if I'm fucking wrong about any of this shit, or even if you think I'm oversimplifying shit to a fault, please let me know because I would like to understand the subject better. However, stop giving me fucking (You)'s about shit I didn't fucking even attempt to post.

~Aggravated brainlet

[Anonymous No.12276388]

Ngl bro that dolphin brain lookin dummy thick better than that hank hill ass lookin human brain no cap

[Anonymous No.12276419]

just posting to remind everyone that dolphins
pass the mirror test at a younger age than niggers

https://youtu.be/cKs_iW0QVNY?t=148

[Anonymous No.12276420]

>>12273903
https://www.ted.com/talks/suzana_herculano_houzel_what_is_so_special_about_the_human_brain/transcript

[Anonymous No.12276454]

>>12274488
its not bigger, it has more folds. more folds = more grey matter.

[Anonymous No.12276529]

>>12276419
just posting to remind everyone that the mirror test is worth shit

[Anonymous No.12276544]

>>12273903
Like 90% of that is for DSP so they can know what the fuck is going on around them. The true patrician's choice is the bat, it can do the dolphins bullshit but quicker and with greater accuracy

[Anonymous No.12276565]

>>12275920
brains are getting smaller with age? Whats the reason, alcohol?

[Anonymous No.12276600]

>>12276529
>t. nigger

[Anonymous No.12276628]

>>12276419
ants pass it at a younger age than white people
you literal bugman

[Anonymous No.12276629]

>>12273903
there is obvious delineation between the different "evolutionary" periods, where some specialization and divergence happened in the development of these brains. In the human its a bit hard to see in OPs pic. Incidentally, stage 3 is picrel.

[Anonymous No.12276693]

WHAT IF WE GAVE THE TREES LSD, MAN?

[Anonymous No.12276704]

>>12273903
humans have more neurons in their cortex than the average dolphin does. if you want to see some real mogging, compare humans to orcas.

[Anonymous No.12276759]

>>12276529
>>12276628
Is this test shit if we are going to measure complex intelligence? Maybe, however it can be used it to determine basic intelligence or at least some level of self-awareness. If non-humans animals can pass this test, a human should be able to pass it easily. Explain why a nigger that is supposed to be human and have all the capabilities of humans cannot pass a test that even animals with lower intellect than humans are able to. Even isolated native americans tribes can.

[Anonymous No.12276817]

>>12276704
the function f(x) -> "quantified intelligence units" where x is neuron count is logarithmic for sure

[Anonymous No.12276873]

>>12276817
>"humans are smartest we have the most powerful brain"
>find animal with better brain
>"n-no that doesn't count!"

[Anonymous No.12276967]

>>12276419
>non-western children don't pass the mirror test
>only mention Kenyans
>rationalize that they value the collective too much to pass the mirror test
Okay, so do Chinese and Japanese children not pass the mirror test, similar to the Kenyan children? Because those are two of the most collectivist societies I know of and it would support the hypothesis if so.

[Anonymous No.12277003]

@12276759
>ignoring what I said while replying to me
Truly epic

[Anonymous No.12277110]

>>12277003
So? Ants are probably smarter than niggers. They at least can create complex structures and stable civilizations, something a negro can't do

[Anonymous No.12277180]

>>12277110
So white people are less intelligent than ants by extension?
Glad we are in agreement

[Anonymous No.12277333]

>Hey!
>You wanna help me make the marine ubermenschen?
Sorry about humanity, bros.

[Anonymous No.12277455]

>>12277180
As already said. This test doesn't analyze complex intelligence, only really basic or self-awareness.

[Anonymous No.12277464]

>>12276759
Mirror test is just an anthropomorphic shit test that assumes that
1. Only smart animals can recognize themselves
2. All smart animals recognize themselves visually.

The fact that ants pass the test is proof enough that it is flawed.

[Anonymous No.12277503]

>>12274415
>I ate deep fried veal brain once.
wot?
>Tastes bland, like liver
bruh

[Anonymous No.12278163]

>>12276454
>mogged by the big D
>BIG

[Anonymous No.12278169]

a dolphins life is a far better existence than a humans. They are smart enough to think and feel on a basic level, not smart enough to come up with autistic shit - they dont need to because they dominate their environment. Their life is filled with play and love while you will slave away at a desk until you wither and die alone. But keep telling yourself, at least you are sentient right.

[Anonymous No.12278201]

Post orca brain or don't even bother continuing this thread

[Anonymous No.12278213]

why did dolphins evolve to be so smart?

[Anonymous No.12278284]

>>12277464
Different sense modalities also operate in very different ways in different species at a much more basic level--for instance arousal or alarm. I live near where about a dozen feral cats make rounds to residents who leave food out for them, and frequently notice them on my porch before going out at night. No matter what they;re doing or which way they're facing, about half of them don't react at all to the sudden turning of the bright light there, and the other half that do react only slowly, turning to look in the general direction of the door and squinting vaguely. But all of them instantly jump and run at the faint sound of the door cracking open as it peels away from the slight adhesion of the weatherstripping. Furthermore the domestic strays that sometimes enter into the population for a while react more to the light, and so much less to the sound that they're identifiable on that basis alone, so great is the difference of effect of a domestic vs. wild upbringing on reflexive arousal patterns of the kind.

[Anonymous No.12278316]

>>12276873
>"n-no that doesn't count!"
>last time i checked there are no orca/dolphin countries and they dont even have a military
Bet your nigger ass it doesnt count faggot

[Anonymous No.12278382]

>>12274681
Kinda true but still a cope since the Flynn effect is reversing

[Anonymous No.12278423]

>>12273983
have you ever eaten brain? it's the creamiest gooiest substance

[Anonymous No.12278427]

>>12274779
some animals can consent to each other you retarded fuck lmao

[Anonymous No.12278438]

>>12277464
ants are smart bro

[Anonymous No.12278579]

>>12273903
Thanks for all the fish...

[Anonymous No.12278640]

>>12278427
Animals don't even know what consent is. A dog can be getting fucked and not even understand what sex is. How could it consent?

[Anonymous No.12278649]

>>12278640
>animal performs mating dance to potential mate
>potential mate responds positively
>they have sex
How is this not consent?

[Anonymous No.12278655]

>>12278640
They don't understand the 4d moon logic humans use to endlessly bicker about sex, but they understand the actual nuts and bolts practice of how to do it. They know what they like and what they don't. The human perspective on sex doesn't matter to them at all, so they don't need to consider all the things you are thinking are "necessary" for consent. They just don't care about them. Not being able to understand that is quite literally autistic.

[Anonymous No.12280062]

>>12278649
>>12278655
Animals can just fuck get don't need to go through all that. Some animals sit there getting fucked and don't really understand why but just let it happen. The woman let's off pharamones and the dude gets horny and has sex with the girl. There is no asking or dancing. Ye dancing and all that shit is to assert dominance if there are other makes around.

[Anonymous No.12280104]

>>12276565
brain cells start to die and aren't replaced.

[Anonymous No.12280109]

>>12278316
nigga orcas don't even have no hands. raise an orca from infanthood in a fucking mech and see what happens.

[Anonymous No.12280137]

>>12280062
You are a retard. Courting is a big deal for lots of animals and females of many species are very picky. Zoophiles follow the desires of their partner and often go through the courting process with them to the best of their ability seeking approval, and backing off if none is given. If you approach things with the mindset of just grabbing a female and plowing away then you're likely to either be committing rape or getting your ass kicked.

[Anonymous No.12280140]

>>12280062
you say that humans don't do all the same shit.

[Anonymous No.12280271]

>>12280137
this guy gets it, even if he is probably a dog fucker. if an animal doesn't want it, you'll damn well know.

[Anonymous No.12280297]

>>12274681
No, brain size is positively correlated with intelligence. The reason why dolphins are not as smart as humans is their cerebral cortex is proportionately less developed.

[Anonymous No.12280411]

>>12274632
Couldn't you make the same argument for us then? Are we not product of bacteria?

[Anonymous No.12280414]

>>12274632
by that logic all life on earth is billions of years old, and our "age" is just an illusory brain/consciousness age.

[Anonymous No.12280442]

>>12274763
honestly I don't get why people get so obsessed over encephalization when it's such a blatantly rough measurement. yeah, it's a good way to measure evolutionary pressure for intelligence, but an encephalization increase of 1 is going to mean a lot more for a 1 tonne elephant than it is for a 180lb human. an orca's encephalization score is only 1/3 of ours, despite the human cortex only being 1/3-1/2 the size of theirs, and orcas being one of only 2 known animals that can boast a bigger cortex than us.

[Anonymous No.12280525]

>>12280442
See my previous post >>12276365

Essentially encephalization quotient on it's own isn't the biggest deal in the world, it's just a solid indicator for general intelligence. However when looked at alongside neuron density, something that I specifically mentioned in the post that you are quoting, together they become a fantastic indicator.

Also, you can look at the post IMMEDIATELY following the one you posted for a rough graphic further showing the point I was trying to make >>12274766

And yes, I'm just being rough and general. We could wax on and on about proportional size of brain structures, neural connectivity, ect, but from what I've seen these two things together often are the two best indicators for someone just looking to get a general gauge of the intelligence potential of a creature.

[Anonymous No.12280552]

>>12273999
I eat fried lamb brain once or twice a monthz shit's cash.

[Anonymous No.12281522]

>>12280552
>fried
Ew

[Anonymous No.12282353]

>>12280552
Scottish?