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/sfg/ - Space Flight General: SN7.1 no pop Edition Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:11:06 2020 No.12149006 [Reply] [Original]

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IT JUST WON'T POP IT'S TOO WELL MADE

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:13:51 2020 No.12149014 SpaceX is a joke, they can't even pop a fucking tank

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:14:40 2020 No.12149020 File: 191 KB, 1280x888, Toilet_device_on_Soyuz_spacecraft.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Imagine

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:15:32 2020 No.12149023 >>12149014 atleast they haven't taken a decade to make it

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:15:38 2020 No.12149025 >>12149006 Becoming op doesn't help you in any way, anon. Just chill out and let the thread hit a god damn limit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:18:08 2020 No.12149034 What kind of toilet will starship have? I expect a spaceship bigger than ISS to have a good one

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:18:49 2020 No.12149037 File: 1.17 MB, 1600x897, Tear down this depot mr Musk!.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12149025 little do you know, I WAS OP FROM THE LAST THREAD AND THE THREAD BEFORE

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:20:11 2020 No.12149041

>Artemis I launch
>Finally, SLS is real- it’s leaving the pad
>It’s another launch clock problem. It’s running on Pajeet time
what would be the ramifications against Boeing it something stupid happened to SLS and artemis got fucked over. Do we even have a human rated rocket capable of bringing astronauts to gateway should SLS fail?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:20:39 2020 No.12149043 File: 161 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why the FUCK aren't you on MARS right now, anon?!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:21:45 2020 No.12149047 it turns the poo into edible taco meat?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:22:12 2020 No.12149049 File: 97 KB, 1742x1572, Big Ass Plane.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12149043 THIS

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:29:39 2020 No.12149066 >>12149041 >what would be the ramifications against Boeing it something stupid happened to SLS and artemis got fucked over. Zero. Too big to fail and too big to jail apply to Boeing.

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:32:43 2020 No.12149071
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>>12149034
They could have a rotating section on the passenger decks that spins at 1G. The inner parts can be walk through, or part of the rotating thing for low g applications and the outer rim is where you put your rim on the bowl. The centrifugal force just slingshots the shit into the space if you don't want to save it for fertilizer on mars.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:33:44 2020 No.12149075 File: 59 KB, 629x337, outokumpu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12148967

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:34:10 2020 No.12149076 >>12149037 Again, nobody cares. Being first doesn't do anything, except making people tell you that you're annoying.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:38:37 2020 No.12149085 File: 573 KB, 3000x2000, 276867main_08pd2733_full.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12149049 are you blaming the shuttle again? sigh

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:41:05 2020 No.12149093 >>12149023 shame on space x for not providing jobs to my constituents for 10 years. I'll have to redouble my efforts to make up for this unpatriotic act

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:42:26 2020 No.12149094 File: 1.97 MB, 2010x1131, space-poop.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12149071 >be me >wealthy space tourist >on my first spacewalk >fucking sandblasted to death by historic shit and piss grains from the space age imagine the smell

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:42:28 2020 No.12149095 File: 539 KB, 927x664, Si90XGk1bd.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] who's gonna slurp for MURP

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:43:07 2020 No.12149097 Why do the Europeans have such a loathing towards American? Is it just the fear of being left behind so they cling to old traditions?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:43:59 2020 No.12149100 >>12149095 are there any rockets and or space planes that have boobies and or nipples? and dont post anime

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:44:22 2020 No.12149101 >>12149097 americans are dumb and superstitious

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:45:29 2020 No.12149107 >>12149097 that's just how they show affection

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:46:42 2020 No.12149109 >>12149107 I mean France/Germany is sucking Russian/Chinese dick right now. Are we sure its "affection" being shown to Americans? Maybe competition/envy/fear?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:46:51 2020 No.12149110 >>12149085 I never really appreciated how fucking massive the rotating service structure was, what an absolute unit

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:51:31 2020 No.12149120 FLOP FUCKING WHEN

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:51:36 2020 No.12149121 >>12149109 they're still rattled from letting in all those brown people. we must give them time

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:54:30 2020 No.12149137 >>12149120 UNZIPS >W-WHAT ARE YOU FLOMP >SN8 PUT THAT AWAY MAKE ME

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:54:55 2020 No.12149140 >>12149120 At this rate? November at the earliest. With more delays, it could slip into early 2021.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 12:57:58 2020 No.12149146 File: 705 KB, 1280x720, mars colonists on starship F deck.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12149094 Still beats steerage class where you have to put up with the zero gee loo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 13:09:36 2020 No.12149185 Pretty cool footage I looked up from reading the NASA artemis outline. Crazy how far such a chode-y rocket can go. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rfsDMGplZU

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 13:14:29 2020 No.12149205 >>12149185 >heres your artemis 1 bro

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 13:16:02 2020 No.12149214 File: 45 KB, 598x404, Screenshot_2020-09-22 Mike McCulloch on Twitter.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 13:16:39 2020 No.12149216 >>12149214 kek

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 13:20:33 2020 No.12149225 >>12149214 Who would have thought lel

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 13:22:32 2020 No.12149228
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>>12149225
At least we have numbers now. The photon loop looks WAY better than the classic microwave fart box emdrive.
>VIDEO PRESENTATION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=341Yk4k51uY

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 13:24:24 2020 No.12149230 >>12149214 Tape-propelled interstellar probes when

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 13:26:48 2020 No.12149236 File: 36 KB, 720x720, 1592288795525.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw tape has better ISP and higher thrust than an Ion drive

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 13:27:46 2020 No.12149239 >>12149236 The farting tape wasn't the 0.1N/kW version.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 13:28:16 2020 No.12149240 what material has the highest ISP from passive offgassing

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 13:29:03 2020 No.12149242 >>12149240 Metallic hydrogen.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 14:16:50 2020 No.12149381 >>12149214 We got too cocky bros

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 14:28:08 2020 No.12149401 >>12149214 Tajmar knew what he was doing kek

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 14:30:11 2020 No.12149408 >>12149214 what's he talking about?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 14:31:15 2020 No.12149412 >>12149408 EMdrive experiments. He's getting money from DARPA to see if Quantized Inertia can build propellantless space thrusters.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 14:33:15 2020 No.12149419 >>12149412 oh so it's another schizo drive

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 14:39:14 2020 No.12149431 >>12149228 laser loop please be real. I want something to break physics and lead to a new era of discovery and advancement already

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 14:41:12 2020 No.12149441 >>12149419 shit's impossible only before it isn't

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 14:41:25 2020 No.12149443 >>12149419 it's the same schizo drive as before actually, now with photon loops

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 14:46:04 2020 No.12149460 >>12149419 yeah probably,fun to watch it go down though. I'm hoping they actually send one to space so we can see the legendary cope that follows when it does nothing.

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 14:48:30 2020 No.12149471

>>12149431
The really nice thing about the laser loops is that if QI is real, the height of the cylinder in number of loops is the efficiency scaling factor, so it's a natural fit for wide lifting body spaceplanes. If you can get a cylinder with a million loops that won't melt with 100kW running through it, you might have a real engine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 14:50:41 2020 No.12149476 >>12149471 solid state devices make me so fucking hard

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 14:52:38 2020 No.12149486 >>12149471 >if some groundbreaking principle of physics happens to exist to support this impossible science fiction drive Do the boomers that push this shit really believe it or are they just milking the pentagon cash cow?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 14:54:30 2020 No.12149498 >>12149486 probably a little bit of both, since we're not finding new physics with big colliders anymore I don't see why we shouldn't just try random things and see if physics breaks

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 14:55:03 2020 No.12149500 >>12149486 >Do the boomers that push this shit really believe it or are they just milking the pentagon cash cow? Mike seems like a true believer, but most people coming with so called "great breakthroughs" are just scammers and conmen.

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 14:55:51 2020 No.12149503

Forge world Mercury
>Poles are primary cities and CSP farms
>Robot scavengers gather ore from crust and bring them to mobile refinery bases
>Refiners drop off materials at pole cities to be manufactured into goods and materials for off-world construction in exchange for energy/repairs
>Orbit is used for Plasma Mag-sail ships heading rimward to other planets for the extra solar boost
Let’s do it

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 14:56:53 2020 No.12149506

>>12149486
The photon loop already shows a ~0.7N/kW thrust in some recent configurations. That makes it suitable for manned spaceflight if it scales up.
>if
Yeah, yeah.

>>12149500
Yeah, Mike is encouraging people to build their own experiments at home and not asking for money, except from DARPA.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 14:58:18 2020 No.12149513 >>12149503 Can't we just turn Mercury into a Dyson swarm? Seems like a better use of it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 15:14:18 2020 No.12149548 >>12149513 Dyson swarms are gay and a waste of resources Being able to terraform 2 planets is a much better use of Mercury’s resources than a bunch of O’Neill cylinders

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 15:18:32 2020 No.12149550 >>12149548 >bro infinite energy sucks bro >lets fuck about with two rocks instead

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 15:20:09 2020 No.12149554 >>12149550 >>12149548 can't we use the energy from a Dyson swarm to heat up Mars and cool off Venus? Hell, with Dyson Swarm levels of energy we could crash Ceres into Mars and heat up the Jovian moons for agriculture

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 15:23:10 2020 No.12149559 >>12149554 excactly

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 15:23:59 2020 No.12149562 Must be a slow day. People are circle jerking over sci fi fantasies again

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 15:30:12 2020 No.12149579 File: 153 KB, 581x593, A3D61A4A-C34D-47A3-8075-F7B046BCF0C1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12149506 What are the chances it’s real?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 15:31:40 2020 No.12149580 File: 236 KB, 1915x1076, QvnY99fuXPjYo2m7UYHdmk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12149562 starship enables a lot of fantasy tier sci fi

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 15:31:57 2020 No.12149581 >>12149562 Battery day starting in 1 hour for Musk's other venture. Supposedly, its gonna reveal some battery advances that will allow them to cut battery cost down under $100/kWh.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 15:34:32 2020 No.12149586 >>12149581 Tesla stock will probably eat shit when investors realize it isn't a magic infinite energy stone

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 15:35:52 2020 No.12149588 >>12149586 1million battery is gonna be the expected reveal, but I think more importantly is energy density+cost.

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 15:36:01 2020 No.12149590

>>12149579
50/50 it's either real or it's not.

really though, QI seems like a pretty nice explanation for things, and the alternative is (((dark matter))) which is the epitome of changing your hypothesis to match the results. Guess we'll find out it a few years after this gets tested. The lab level forces are already better than ion drives so if it does work I don't see why a company making sats wouldn't take immediate interest

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 15:38:16 2020 No.12149595 >>12149590 >changing your hypothesis to match the results. That, uh, is how it supposed to work.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 15:42:56 2020 No.12149611 >>12149595 ya, just like school, instead of stating why your prediction is wrong you just edit it so that it matches up with what you got, don't forget to add hypothetical dark numbers to your calculation so it works out.

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 15:47:13 2020 No.12149626

>>12149611
>you just edit your prediction so that it matches up with what you got
Yes, because that is how science works. The observation is the ultimate deciding factor on the validity of a prediction, and if it doesn't match the prediction then the prediction is wrong and a new hypothesis is needed.
>don't forget to add hypothetical dark numbers to your calculation so it works out.
That is not what is being done with dark matter. Dark matter and its effects has been observed. If a cosmic model does not explain dark matter, and its effects then it is useless in describing the universe.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 15:47:16 2020 No.12149627 >>12149611 I don’t think you know what a hypothesis is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 15:48:31 2020 No.12149634 >>12149562 We were spoilt with SN6 hop Sunday. Now things are so slow we're reduced to discussing spiral shit blizzards

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 15:49:55 2020 No.12149637 >>12149590 >>12149611 this guy watched one of those schizo theory of everything videos 'debunking academia' and thinks he's hot shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 15:53:56 2020 No.12149646 Tom Cruise confirmed for ISS >flight is October 2021 >Dragon 2 Axiom flight https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Axiom_Space-1 https://www.nme.com/news/film/tom-cruise-is-officially-going-to-space-for-his-next-movie-2758685

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 15:55:08 2020 No.12149648 >>12149634 We won't be satisfied until there's an orbital launch every second.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:00:19 2020 No.12149658 >>12148967 Outokumpu has a steel mill in the States.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:02:32 2020 No.12149663 File: 301 KB, 520x678, worried_laughter.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12149646 But why

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:05:30 2020 No.12149671 >>12149663 to mission impossible his way out of the station and attack the chinese Tiangong station instead

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:05:34 2020 No.12149672

>>12149590
Dark matter isn't bad because the model changes with new data. Dark matter is bad because the model is inconsistent between objects. There's no way to calculate how much dark matter a galaxy has has other than "well GR says it would need this much mass to do what it does", which is epicycle tier nonsense.

>>12149663
He wants to jump over everybody's couch at once.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:06:20 2020 No.12149673 File: 47 KB, 333x333, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Astronaut_photography_on_lunar_surface https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Men_standing_on_the_Moon

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:07:08 2020 No.12149675 >>12149671 >attack the chinese Tiangong station instead >implying some famous Chinese actress with horrible English isn’t going to be the love interest

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:07:50 2020 No.12149677 >>12149663 Scientologists are weird, dude.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:08:20 2020 No.12149678 >>12149675 >Movie climaxes as Jackie Chan and Tom Cruise duke it out in zero-g would definetly watch

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:09:27 2020 No.12149681 >>12149678 Hopefully we can see the commie bastard Chan get nuked from orbit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:12:33 2020 No.12149687 >>12149663 He's taking the fight to Xenu

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:14:55 2020 No.12149689 >>12149681 >Jackie let's out a final bad guy scream as the station disintegrates on re-entry https://youtu.be/vZ5vkiazP1s

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:23:07 2020 No.12149710 imminent elon presentation kino with tesla

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:25:38 2020 No.12149726 File: 106 KB, 1078x582, Zhenzhou Orbital Module.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Goddamn the Chinese Zhenzhou orbital module is cool

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:27:32 2020 No.12149734 >>12149710 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU-poglarHc 3 mins

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:28:40 2020 No.12149737 >>12149734 https://livestream.tesla.com/

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:29:30 2020 No.12149739 >>12149663 Why not?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:29:55 2020 No.12149740 >>12149737 Does Battery Day have its own thread? I couldn't find one either here or on /o/

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:30:08 2020 No.12149741 >>12149740 watch?v=l6T9xIeZTds

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:30:48 2020 No.12149743 >>12149734 probably gonna be longer given elon time, but that's part of the experience I remember there being some discussion here and on another /sci/ thread during the cybertruck announcement

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:31:11 2020 No.12149744 >>12149741 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6T9xIeZTds >>12149743 Yeah Elons pretty busy

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:31:32 2020 No.12149745 >>12149740 biz

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:31:48 2020 No.12149746 >>12149648 >We won't be satisfied until there's an orbital launch every second. I know anon. My reward system is so fried I need constant stimulation just like you

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:32:17 2020 No.12149747 >>12149740 /o/ deletes any positive Tesla thread, there's a Tesla ban there

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:32:45 2020 No.12149751 should I sell out of Gamestop to invest in Tesla on the inevitable battery day dip? >>12149745 /smg/ has gotten unusably bad lately

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:33:45 2020 No.12149754 >>12149747 Why?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:33:54 2020 No.12149755 >>12149751 IF it dips, then buy it. Tesla has plenty of factory rolling out in the next year that will trigger stock rises

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:34:55 2020 No.12149757 >>12149754 Dunno, its either a overzealous janny or a mod doing it. Never got banned tho, so its likely some jannies not liking Teslas

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:36:57 2020 No.12149761 >>12149745 >/biz/ Oof, no thanks >>12149760 >>12149760 >>12149760

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:52:43 2020 No.12149800

>>12149214
> In 2019, a Romanian particle physicist performed a derivation of quantized inertia in which he claims to have found two errors in McCulloch's original work prior to 2013. He subsequently provides a new derivation showing different predictions.

https://academic.oup.com/mnras/article-abstract/489/1/881/5545603?redirectedFrom=fulltext

did it get discussed here?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:53:43 2020 No.12149803 >>12149800 Probably not because it's paywalled.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:56:15 2020 No.12149811 >>12149803 sucks being poorfags

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 16:59:52 2020 No.12149817 >>12149687 Based tom.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 17:01:59 2020 No.12149822 >>12149737 just entered >... various human right violations at Testla ... welp

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 17:02:06 2020 No.12149823 >shareholders want proposals for tesla >none of them have fuck all to do with actual Tesla products Why are they like this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 17:04:39 2020 No.12149830 >>12149823 Rhymes with tiggers and poohs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 17:10:37 2020 No.12149845 >Welcome, Elon Musk! >TOOT TOOT TOOT TOOOT TOOTO TOOOT Nothing will stop the cheering

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 17:13:54 2020 No.12149850 It's inevitable that a Lunar and Martian colonist will eat regolith.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 17:16:07 2020 No.12149857 FLAPS ARE BEING INSTALLED

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>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 17:17:45 2020 No.12149865 >>12149857 Link?

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>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 17:21:20 2020 No.12149875 File: 3.81 MB, 5568x3712, DSC_4119 (2).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] look, it is nude

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 17:28:29 2020 No.12149894
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>>12149747
It's not. /o/tists just really hate teslas. That in turn causes anything tesla related to bow up on page one because everybody has their very eccentric opinion to share. Again and again. In my opinion /v/ is the most brutally censored board there is, since any non nintendo related threads seem to vanish there within literal minutes if not seconds. It's such a fast burning board that I personally just stopped bothering, specially since all my /v/ related conversations live way longer on /o/, /his/ and /k/
Don't feed trunk gril.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 17:29:32 2020 No.12149897 >>12149823 Go be a brainlet somewhere else

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 17:32:19 2020 No.12149906 >>12149850 >Literal dirt farmers

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 17:35:42 2020 No.12149914 >>12149726 Yeah, if it were launched in the 1950’s maybe

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 17:37:23 2020 No.12149920 >>12149894 Does /v/ really shill that hard for Nintendo? How? They're like the Apple of the east.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 17:37:25 2020 No.12149921 >>12149726 Tienanman Square etc etc

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 17:38:28 2020 No.12149923 >>12149920 Constant Smash threads for one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 17:41:08 2020 No.12149930 >>12149920 no, that's bullshit. /v/ has lots of nintendo threads, but they don't delete non-nintendo threads, shit just gets to page 10 fast because it's such a fast board. There's no brutal censoring, there's constant offtopic porn and /pol/ threads.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 17:44:34 2020 No.12149940 Have the rocketman already said what the big reveal was?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 17:44:46 2020 No.12149941 File: 900 KB, 1040x672, Its_All_Starships.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12149006 If SN7.1 pops does this come out?

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 17:51:04 2020 No.12149960
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>>12149930
Our experiences seem to vary. Keep in mind that my last sample dates like 3 years back. I should have noted that.

I am very able to spot the difference between "archived" and "pruned/deleted" tho.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 17:52:21 2020 No.12149965 >>12149940 Still waiting for the genetically modified catgirls

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 17:53:29 2020 No.12149968 >>12149965 Those will be Martian exclusives because every roastie-infested government on Earth would ban them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 17:59:20 2020 No.12149986 File: 1.52 MB, 1920x1080, Elons Junkyard v5.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12149965 Mechas first!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 18:02:58 2020 No.12149995 uh oh https://twitter.com/Space_Station/status/1308502770530435072

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 18:05:24 2020 No.12150004 >>12149995 how far away is closest approach? >inb4 10+km

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 18:12:32 2020 No.12150030 when will the aerosurfaces not look like they came out of a scrap yard

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 18:12:49 2020 No.12150031

>>12149995
https://twitter.com/Space_Station/status/1308526917293805568

>The station boosted its orbit out of the way of an unknown piece of space debris today after a docked resupply ship fired its engines at 5:19pm ET. The Exp 63 crew has resumed normal activities. More... https://go.nasa.gov/3ckpGlQ

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 18:17:45 2020 No.12150046 >>12150030 That's deliberate, he's going for that rustic look.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 18:17:48 2020 No.12150047 >>12149986 It used to be funny until all the kerbal garbage was added, now its another /v/ meme

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 18:18:12 2020 No.12150049 File: 278 KB, 739x800, tajmar.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12149408 he knew

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 18:23:19 2020 No.12150058 https://youtu.be/swo4JxE-iuY https://youtu.be/8XK7nzAW_b0 why can’t we have massif global governmental co-operation for massif space missionz

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 18:23:45 2020 No.12150060 >>12150030 not until they finalize the design

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 18:27:11 2020 No.12150073 >>12150060 https://youtu.be/3cKedB3jveE Why can’t we use the same technology we’d use to colonize mars to make products at home on earth...

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 18:27:44 2020 No.12150074 >>12149906 Seriously, it's called a pica.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 18:29:15 2020 No.12150080 If only the America used it’s massive wealth to create prestigious international colleges across the country in order attract and invest capital....

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 18:29:20 2020 No.12150082 >>12150058 Cooperation with outsiders is for losers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 18:30:18 2020 No.12150085 >>12150082 You can protect international and national industry at the same time News flash

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 18:37:05 2020 No.12150102 >>12150085 Fuck other countries.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 18:37:40 2020 No.12150105 >>12150102 This

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 18:38:04 2020 No.12150108 >>12150102 That’s not right man... No country is perfect but we’re all people. That’s why. I don’t stand by everything I’ve done or said, same for countries and leaders. I wish people could see this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 18:39:44 2020 No.12150113 >>12150108 I don’t give a fuck about dumbass “”people”” I don’t know and will never meet.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 18:40:18 2020 No.12150114 >>12150113 Such is life.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 18:41:26 2020 No.12150119 >>12150108 If that were true affirmative action would have worked. We are not all the same, and attempting to lift the less capable just drags the more capable down. Get your own damn space program.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 18:42:31 2020 No.12150124 >>12150119 Sort of hard to pull off, but with cheap reusable rockets not impossible. Especially if technology improves.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 18:48:23 2020 No.12150142 >QandA with Elon >on my drive up here the entire state was BROWN based questioner

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 18:55:25 2020 No.12150165 >>12149754 >Why? Tranny jannies is not a meme, /o/ anons themselves confirmed it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 19:12:36 2020 No.12150217 File: 507 KB, 1758x1570, DSC_8207 (2).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] COMM BARREL ASSY BOOSTER >ASSY BOOSTER Cmon Elon Anyways, seems like SH SN1 is here

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 19:18:43 2020 No.12150230 File: 247 KB, 2500x1667, zzv3gpw9en451.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12150217 I-I-I-IM GONNA BOOOOOOOOOOST

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 19:26:24 2020 No.12150251 scientifically speaking, how do I win the lottery so I can fund the development of the perfect KSP + CoaDE space game

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 19:33:28 2020 No.12150276 >>12150251 >so I can fund the development of the perfect KSP + CoaDE space game >not starting an aerospace company Shit goals, broseidon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 19:39:11 2020 No.12150297 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN3x-kAbgFU POP tonight, you can feel it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 19:50:47 2020 No.12150340 File: 3.47 MB, 3264x4896, 2020-09-22_18-49-31.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] AAAAAAAAAA

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 19:56:19 2020 No.12150361 >>12150340 I worry that those things are going to spontaneously RUD during drag maneuvers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 19:56:56 2020 No.12150365 >>12150361 It's gonna be fucking sick.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 19:57:39 2020 No.12150367 >>12150365 It will be sphincter clenching for sure.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 19:58:01 2020 No.12150368 >>12150340 can somebody post a comparison (mk1)

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 19:59:59 2020 No.12150379 >>12150368 They're installing the left fin now, after that it'll be a cleaner comparison.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:07:23 2020 No.12150393 >>12150361 >>12150365 >>12150367 https://twitter.com/ErcXspace/status/1307099057576435713

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:09:54 2020 No.12150399 File: 25 KB, 773x151, firefox_2020-09-22_19-09-25.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12150393 Goddamnit Billy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:10:03 2020 No.12150400 File: 859 KB, 1034x654, Proto comparison.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12150368 here is a comparison of a common dome for now

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:12:26 2020 No.12150409

>>12150393
In all seriousness I just hope they don't wind up damaging any GSE if/when they crater. They have so many ships under construction that who really cares if they blow a few up, but the SN4 explosion stopped all testing for like 2 months. I can't handle that sort of dry spell again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:12:33 2020 No.12150410 Prediction: SN8 won't fly before Starship Day because if it RUDs Elon will have nothing to stand in front of

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:14:03 2020 No.12150415 >>12150410 there are 4 current prototypes in Boca so probably not

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:15:22 2020 No.12150419

>>12150410
That's my assumption as well. They'll have SN8 standing next to a full size Superheavy and then start testing a few days later. Bonus points if they have Superheavy on the launchpad and just orient the presentation stage such that you can see it on the horizon 2 miles away.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:17:19 2020 No.12150423 >>12150410 >>12150419 my assumption is they'll have SN9 ready by then

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:18:46 2020 No.12150428 >>12150410 >>12150419 Imagine how fucking intimidating it would be if they'd have SN8 stacked on top of the superheavy

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:20:15 2020 No.12150432

>>12150423
Depends when in October the presentation is. If it's on the 30th or something then that seems reasonable. Anytime before that and I don't know if they'll have SN9 100%. I'm sure they could if they really push for it, but at this point they aren't just building shoddy mockups like last year, they're building flight articles.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:22:52 2020 No.12150440 >>12150410 They are shitting out SN9 and have parts for SN13 or some shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:24:19 2020 No.12150441 >>12150340 >right wing installed first one of us

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:33:30 2020 No.12150474 >>12150441 This is a very problematic dogwhistle and I'm sure twitter will react accordingly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:34:14 2020 No.12150479 those welds on the flap look awful, worse than sn1

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:36:18 2020 No.12150485 >>12150340 Why are they using the shiny ones? Those will probably delaminate. It'd look pretty though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:38:35 2020 No.12150491 RTG POWERED HIGH PRESSURE AEROSPIKE WATER ROCKETS

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:40:22 2020 No.12150498 File: 16 KB, 1250x600, 1600734199825_french space predreadnought.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12150491 POWERING FRENCH PREDREADNOUGHT STARSHIPS

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:44:44 2020 No.12150509 >>12150498 >Bridge tower standing ontop of the phased array. That's not how that works.

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:45:05 2020 No.12150510

>>12149006
Musk is the GREATEST SCITECH GOD IN MODERN EXISTENCE.
You can't deny this without coming off as a JEALOUS STUPID DIAPER BABY.

He's REVOLUTIONAIZED solar efficiency and practically owns the notion of electric vehicles.
He's SINGLE-HANDEDLY popularized evs and got everyone and their great grandma to care about green energy.
Before him ABSOLUTELY NOONE cared about that and considered them GIMICKS made for FARTSNIFFERS.
Evs are a thing now BECAUSE of MUSK and him alone.
HE ALONE pioneered rocket fuel efficiency. Imagine being a STEM genius on the r&d team at NASA just to have your entire credentials and wisdom TRIVIALIZED by a web dev? LOL
HE ALONE brought in MORE INNOVATION than EVERY SINGLE car and space company and every single engineer and scientist working for them. Even the smartest donk at CERN PALES IN COMPARISON to Musk's UNPARALLELED quairvoyance and applied genius
He is getting us to mars. WTF ARE THOSE SLOWBRAINED CUMBRAINS AT NASA??CLEARLY JERKING THEIR IQS OUT THE WINDOW LIKE THE USELESS DEGREE-HOLDING DEADWEIGHTS THAT THEY"VE ALWAYS BEEN SINCE BRITH AHA.
MUSK is MUUCH MORE USEFUL to humanity than every single scientist and engineer that has ever aspired to contribute to the progress of humanity. He's gonna get us to Mars and the best you can do is whimper a "reeeeee" under the UPROAR OF RATIONALITY as Musk's green candle bars and space rovers sodomize you on all 4s in front of your entire family tree and then musk will finish and have his last laugh by splurting hot diarrhea down your limp throat as you lay there crippled and seething through glassy rage-filled eyes reflecting the image of his moon crater. Seethe to your grave knowing that Musk will have his royal THRONE in modern science history and not you bro. At the pace he;s going, Musk may as well set out and cure those LITTLE POOR BLACK BABIES from waka land of AIDS/ADHD. Then Titus Ngobo will justify Musk's emerald past as being a necessary evil for the COMING OF CHRIST.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:45:38 2020 No.12150512 >>12150509 >not wanting to be able to heat your lunch by dangling it out the window

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:49:04 2020 No.12150523

>>12150512
Also where are the RCS packs, and what kind of exotic drive is it using? I'd assume either nuclear or nuclear electric based on the size of the radiators, although honestly they're still quite small and it wouldn't be unrealistic to have three times as many of them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:49:29 2020 No.12150524 >>12150509 that's the problem and not the 19th century naval turrets and casemated phalanx?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:50:20 2020 No.12150529 >>12150510 Based.

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:51:24 2020 No.12150533

>>12150523
nuclear teakettle, and desu most of the dumber design choices that weren't made for laffs are down to restrictions drawing a pure side profile

what I should do is rotate the bridge 90° around the axis of the ship and add another pair of radiators in the same symmetry

and add more manually operated EVA guns

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:52:38 2020 No.12150536

>>12150524
Those are bad design decisions but ones which wouldn't fundamentally fail to function. I don't think coring out your radar to put a crew ladder/elevator through it will leave you with a functioning radar, or if you have to shrink it's size to put in a passage it will at the very least be gimped compared to your other sensory equipment.
It would make sense to have smaller arrays behind armored panels on the nose, use software to composite their returns to give you similarly good readings to one larger array.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 20:59:45 2020 No.12150558 >>12150510 Yeah I saw this in the /g/ thread, too

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 21:15:13 2020 No.12150608 depot

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 21:17:15 2020 No.12150612 >>12150608 MODS

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 21:18:08 2020 No.12150616 File: 123 KB, 1254x816, interstellar fleet.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12150608 *depots

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 21:18:45 2020 No.12150618 why dont we just turn on infinite fuel irl?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 21:18:48 2020 No.12150619 >>12150340 flapppppp

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 21:19:41 2020 No.12150623 >>12150618 Mods won't let us

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 21:20:18 2020 No.12150626 >>12150498 Why is there one deck gun floating seperately from the resty of the vessel?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 21:21:25 2020 No.12150629 >>12150626 Drone turret

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 21:25:47 2020 No.12150638 Another pressure test prep in 30 minutes and the next 2 nights after tonight are also booked.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 21:26:24 2020 No.12150642 >>12150618 we forgot to write down the cheat code

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 21:26:56 2020 No.12150644 >>12150642 just press alt f12

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 21:27:20 2020 No.12150646 >>12150626 For copying and pasting

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 21:30:00 2020 No.12150653 >>12150638 How many fucking times are they going to put nitrogen in and take nitrogen out It's not gonna change you geekoids

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 21:32:36 2020 No.12150660 ADVANCED CARBON FIBER COMPOSITE HYDROLOX SSTO STARSHIPS

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 21:33:07 2020 No.12150661 >>12150653 They need to test the tank for stable pressure as well as extreme pressures (fast change in temps on mars/moon/orbit)

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 21:44:03 2020 No.12150691 >>12150660 what if carbon fiber actually sucked this whole time and we were being bamboozled by big carbon

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 21:44:37 2020 No.12150695
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I am pretty sure all the "Jim is gone even if Trump wins" posters were full of shit.

https://twitter.com/JimBridenstine/status/1308540671725318144

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 21:45:09 2020 No.12150697 >>12150653 SN 7.1: The Unpoppable One

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 21:51:06 2020 No.12150708 >>12150653 if they keep putting it in and out that tank is gonna cum

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 21:53:17 2020 No.12150714 >>12150498 Why do the french need battle spaceships? to surrender all over the solar system?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 21:53:50 2020 No.12150717 File: 272 KB, 1920x1080, 1570492258396.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] twap....................

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 21:54:04 2020 No.12150718 >>12150714 They need to hide the paternity test results from their people.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 21:54:29 2020 No.12150720 >>12150714 It allows them to protect their nation's strategic cheese-reserve.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 21:57:26 2020 No.12150729 File: 51 KB, 736x453, SEOPXIU (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12150714 The glory that is French predreadnought design must not be constrained to one planey

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 21:59:11 2020 No.12150733
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What do you guys think about the business case for starship? You think there's going to be an awkward period in the middle twenties where the extremely cautious and mass efficient payload industry has a hard time adapting to the ridiculous capabilities of SS?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:00:27 2020 No.12150737 how many cubesats can you fit in starship

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:01:37 2020 No.12150741

>>12150733
>What do you guys think about the business case for starship?
I think if it performs as expected I'm going to try hiring some engineers to build payloads for it.
>You think there's going to be an awkward period in the middle twenties where the extremely cautious and mass efficient payload industry has a hard time adapting to the ridiculous capabilities of SS?
That won't end until 2035 or so.

>>12150737
All of them.

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:01:53 2020 No.12150743

>>12150733
Starship should be cheaper to fly than Falcon even if it's hilariously under loaded. I predict a weird period in the mid 20s where you'll see a Starship launch with one GPS satellite, 200 Starlinks, a Cybertruck and whatever cube sats happened to be sitting around, just to fill out the payload bay. Or flying with 10 tons of payload and 90 tons of water ballast.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:01:54 2020 No.12150742 negative mass balloon drives when bros?

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:03:50 2020 No.12150746

>>12150743
>I predict a weird period in the mid 20s where you'll see a Starship launch with one GPS satellite, 200 Starlinks, a Cybertruck and whatever cube sats happened to be sitting around, just to fill out the payload bay.
I've been thinking the same thing, glad to see someone else came to the same conclusion. It's probably gonna be a grab-bag of payloads until companies start adapting out of the older weight-conscious ethos.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:06:09 2020 No.12150756 >>12150746 I think the water ballast is more sensible though, just send up Dragon XLs full of water and sell it in orbit. One might even call such a strategy a "depot".

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:06:15 2020 No.12150757

>>12150733
>has a hard time adapting to the ridiculous capabilities of SS?
No, if the starship is even close to being as cheap as promised then with those payload margins it would literally be within the means of any medium level hobbist to build at least a space probe, it would be similar in complexity to making a car, and the top 10.000 private and public research organizations and colleges in the world would be able to pay for the launch costs with a fraction of their annual advertising budget. Some, but probably most will take advantage of that opportunity. Imagine you have a shitty college in the middle of nowhere, what will you do add another building for your deadbeat students or be THE FUCKING ONLY COLLEGE WITH A MOON BASE, harvard and oxford wont let themselves be oneupped.

no no, build it and they will fucking come.

this is like asking.
hey, i invited a couple thousand virgin 20 year old nice hot but not intimidating girls to make a party in which i pay you to come, but im worried no one will come!!! its just idiotic

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:07:18 2020 No.12150761 >>12150743 >starship launch because a moon colonist forgot his favorite mug

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:09:16 2020 No.12150765 >>12150742 >negative mass balloon drives when bros? still makes more sense than star treks fucking fungus drive

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:09:29 2020 No.12150768 >>12150761 >Starship arrives at Artemis base >payload is 100,000 rolls of toilet paper >USS Shit-Tickets cycles between LEO and LLO ferrying tp between the Earth/Moon system

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:10:29 2020 No.12150771 What's stopping them from building SN7 sized hab modules and just mass yeeting them? It's cheap, they have the tooling. Add a Dragon life support kit and call it a station. You could even comanifest these with actual payloads.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:11:52 2020 No.12150774 >>12150768 >cargo on the way back is novelty tp paper made from moon rocks >is actually the same tp with different packaging >makes mad profit, funds terraforming of mars

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:12:06 2020 No.12150775 >>12150771 You could get way more volume per launch using inflatable habs.

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:12:54 2020 No.12150779

Why people think that Musk is some scammer? I mean, Tesla have done and still does some shady shit, and Musk often overpromises, but he seems to have an actual ideia of what he is doing in general and wants to achieve what he claims, unlike, lets say, the Theranos girl.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:12:55 2020 No.12150778 >>12150775 inflatahabs

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:13:29 2020 No.12150781 >>12150775 Balloons are for NERDS seriously though Bigelow is dead now right? Who's gonna pick up the torch?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:13:50 2020 No.12150782 >>12150779 They feel inadequate when they see how much he's done, so they tear him down in their minds to make themselves feel better. >>12150781 SNC, the Dreamchaser guys, are working on it.

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:13:59 2020 No.12150784

>>12150757
It's much harder than it seems, your 'hobbyist' would need insurance, a way to communicate with it and the ability to build a working satellite. Most universities only really have the capabilities to build small cubesats. Certainly no moon bases.

You'd have at best a bunch of starlink-esque satellites floating around with dubious amounts of control and effectiveness. Only so much of a 100 ton payload you can fill with generic cubsats before people start really raising kessler fears.

>>12150771
You still have to get people up there, people coming up and down on starship is still pretty far away, even with elon time. If a passenger starship fails it's lights out for a lot of people.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:15:02 2020 No.12150786 >>12150775 Volume per launch, or volume per dollar? Hard to beat dumb rolls of steel.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:16:19 2020 No.12150788 >>12150784 >a way to communicate with it Literally just an AWS account and a credit card. https://aws.amazon.com/ground-station/

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:16:22 2020 No.12150790 >>12150784 >Kessler fears Starship with a giant magnet on a Canadarm

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:16:51 2020 No.12150791 >>12150746 This is exactly it, the space industry is so risk sensitive, we've been using the same SSME's for 40-50 years. PROVEN 100% SUCCESS RATE is worth much more than a cheaper launch, Especially for gov't.

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:16:52 2020 No.12150792

>>12150779
Because everybody is desperate to project malevolent intent onto everybody else these days. What else do demoralized, mentally damaged people have to do with their time?
In the end, Elon seems to overpromise because he overshoots, knowing that by overshooting he will push his industries of interest forward. Hell, the Space race shot for the Moon, Mars and Venus, ended up actually getting the Moon and some pretty good probes of the outer planets.
Only doing what you're sure you can accomplish is the mentality of stagnation, we already see what it yields with Oldspace. If you want to accomplish anything significant and transformative, you have to shoot beyond where you expect to land.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:17:59 2020 No.12150793 File: 28 KB, 483x483, 1430108168659.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12150788 >ground station as a service 2020 has been a wild ride

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:18:29 2020 No.12150797 >>12150790 Lol. >>12150788 That's really interesting, thanks for sharing. Any word on how much it costs? Can't imagine it's 4.99 a month.

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:21:30 2020 No.12150806

>>12150793
Ground Station launched last year, fampai. We haven't rolled it out to our southern hemisphere regions yet (Brazil, South Africa, Australia), but IIRC that's on the roadmap.

>>12150797
Cheaper than buying land, building your own ground station, and shipping all your data from your ground station to your server farm (or AWS lol) for processing.

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:22:24 2020 No.12150809
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>boomers will buy radar and optical imaging satellites to image their favourite fishing holes daily and report back stock levels, water level and temperature by AWS groundstations to a server-in-dah-cloud front end like Cloudflare or AWS again

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:22:45 2020 No.12150810 File: 549 KB, 1000x600, Scoop.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I just want to be a humble LOX farmer, operating my small fleet of atmospheric scoops and transfer satellites from my home/LEO fuel station.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:24:29 2020 No.12150814 >>12150810 13% of atmospheric harvesters are responsible for 68% of ozone depletion

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:25:36 2020 No.12150817 >>12150809 >Boomers buying satellites capable of counting fish in a pond from LEO Every military and spy agency in the world would shit itself at 330 bar.

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:25:52 2020 No.12150818
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Thinking of starting a space history/humor yt channel. I made the intro for a hypothetical video about Skylab. Penny for your thoughts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X112IsV80rw

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:29:38 2020 No.12150823 >>12150817 They'll find a way to deal with it, like requiring proprietary anti-imaging-secret-shit software to get FCC approval.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:38:46 2020 No.12150853 Has anyone mentioned the suborbital Blue Origin launch yet?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:39:48 2020 No.12150857 >>12150853 yes, but what is there really to discuss beyond laughing at them?

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:45:42 2020 No.12150876
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>>12150806
Oh hey you're the AWS guy. Yeah of course it's cheaper. Just wonder how feasible it is for your dedicated hobbyist

>>12150818
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFFVsQakXZ8
The scott manley part was good lol. What do I get for being the hundredth sub??

https://youtu.be/7u8j00TY6rw
This is me, I'd love to work with you on something or just talk.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:46:23 2020 No.12150878 >>12150810 NOOOT NOOOOOOT

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:47:08 2020 No.12150880 File: 949 KB, 4096x2730, Eijev5UXsAEEj3H.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] those rings look quite heavy... you could almost say they're super heavy https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1308540922167263240

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:50:55 2020 No.12150891 >>12150790 starship with a fairing catcher net (perhaps each corner attached to a canada arm

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:58:05 2020 No.12150915 guys, we could unironically build a /sci/ sat and hitch a ride on some microsat starship payload, then run the data back through amazon... What would we have it do?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 22:59:21 2020 No.12150919 >>12150891 my idea would be more like a bunch of starlink sats all set out to deorbit small pieces of junk by having a net in front, and a gimballed ion engine to point through CoM.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:01:19 2020 No.12150925 File: 80 KB, 1114x832, lol.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] based

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:02:58 2020 No.12150932 >>12150806 your boss kind of scares me, but godspeed

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:06:06 2020 No.12150945 >>12150510 based schitzo

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:10:16 2020 No.12150956 VENT

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:11:53 2020 No.12150963 >>12150915 It would probably be sending up a dead frog

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:13:57 2020 No.12150966 File: 47 KB, 384x401, 526833.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12150956

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:16:19 2020 No.12150972 >>12150806 AWSbro, can you tell us why Beezy is so slow with the rockets despite being so passionate about space since he was young?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:21:50 2020 No.12150988 Oh god I'm gonna I'm gonna vent FUCK I'M VENTING PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:22:40 2020 No.12150992 >>12150925 Whats that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:23:42 2020 No.12150996 File: 88 KB, 1423x635, vent.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12150956 Post images/video.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:27:11 2020 No.12151008 >>12150996 Nothing worth seeing yet

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:28:05 2020 No.12151013 >>12150992 My youtube view pie chart. Shows where the traffic is coming from

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:28:41 2020 No.12151015 >>12151013 KEK

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:29:22 2020 No.12151017 >>12150880 Steel rings look great without dents

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:29:47 2020 No.12151020 >>12150996 Starship watchers are scum, there's nothing worth watching until spaceX actually does something beyond blowing up tanks and wasting money on hops

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:31:07 2020 No.12151027
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>>12150972
Amazon likes to keep everything super close to the vest until a product is fully complete and available for customers. I don't have any visibility into Blue Origin, but I can extrapolate from management style. I suspect New Armstrong is eventually going to be part of a larger system, and was only released as a separate product because it was a way to combine proof of progress with early customer feedback. The first public AWS service was SQS - useless on its own, invaluable for larger architecture systems in the cloud. I suspect a similar effect is at play. The unveiling of New Glenn will be when it's complete and ready to reach orbit.

As for why BO is mimicking oldspace, it's because Jeff is nouveau riche trying to buy his way into American aristocracy - the DC swamp. He virtue signals the right way, bought the Washington Post, and aggressively courts government contracts against older players. Amazon has a retired general on the board of directors, and hired another one to help run our space sector. Jeff doesn't want to upset the cultural apple cart, and BO's biggest customer so far is ULA for all those BE-4s. He can't exactly go around humiliating them like Elon does. Furthermore, SpaceX is very clearly Elon's primary focus. For Jeff, BO is a distant second after Amazon, especially this year. If for whatever reason Jeff leaves Amazon but not BO, that maniacal focus would transfer.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:31:50 2020 No.12151028 They need to stop having these grifter suckasses on streams.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:32:22 2020 No.12151030 File: 63 KB, 575x638, theprophecy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] reminder that this is all unfolding according to the prophet's will

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:36:03 2020 No.12151042 File: 65 KB, 512x511, 543535454354.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12150996

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:37:30 2020 No.12151049 >>12151030 It's a Bible name.

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:38:18 2020 No.12151051

>>12150058
Large scale international projects of any sort tend bogged down arguments over who gets to build what, what exactly each group should be building, communication issues between teams (especially when language barriers show up), and the bureaucracy that arises doesn't help any. Just look at the glacial pace of the ITER project, for example.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:38:19 2020 No.12151052 what kind of RCS is SS going to be using, dracos?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:38:57 2020 No.12151056 I don't care about 7.1 when the fuck are they launching 8?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:39:49 2020 No.12151060 >>12151049 Elon means "oak tree" in Hebrew. Elon was also one of the Judges in the Book of Judges.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:39:58 2020 No.12151061 >>12151056 Probably in another 2-3 weeks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:41:37 2020 No.12151065 >>12151056 Month or two realistically

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:43:44 2020 No.12151075 >>12151056 They have to put the nosecone and control surfaces on 8 From there pressure testing, static fire, and launch should go at a normal speed. But it'll probably be a lot longer to make sure the control surfaces are in working order.

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:44:24 2020 No.12151076

>>12150409
>stopped all testing for like 2 months. I can't handle that sort of dry spell again
Imagine going back to 2017 when all we had were the IAC events once per year and every 4 months Elon may get drunk and decide to tweet out whatever Starship ideads were written on his white board at the time

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:45:31 2020 No.12151079 >>12150479 Cry more nigger, we space now

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:49:27 2020 No.12151089 I spend way too much time thinking about a pressure tank in the middle of nowhere Texas

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:49:51 2020 No.12151090

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/20110014049
>The solution for these problems is from the automotive industry. The industry has moved towards coil-on-plug solution, which has 12 volt power connected to the coil and a timing signal wire. The only electronics in or near the coil is a relay switch which is operated by timing signal from the computer. The coils themselves are fully potted and would be suitable for vacuum operation. By potting this connection of the coil directly to the plug electrode, the issue with corona can be eliminated that has been seen with long spark plug cable connections between the plug and the exciter box.
spark plug powered methalox rcs WHEN

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:53:14 2020 No.12151093

>>12151060
how fitting! The greatest exponent of clean energy,named after the majestic oak tree.

His throne must be made from Martian oak then...we will have to see to it a sapling is sent with the early colonists-perhaps it could be a living throne, made from a carefully shaped root? more appropriate for a great bringer of Life like Elon than a conventional dead throne.

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:53:23 2020 No.12151095

>>12150786
Very based remark, and also correct. There's no fucking way a stainless steel barrel with a door an a life support crate tossed inside costs even a tenth of the price of an inflatable of the same starting volume, and even if it was only ten times more expensive there's no way that inflatable piece of shit is going to blow up to be ten times the volume. Literally just launch more man-cans and weld them together in space. Simple as.

Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:55:00 2020 No.12151101
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Anyone played this 'game'? How realistic of a vision for a Mars base is it?

https://store.steampowered.com/app/224000/Project_Eagle_A_3D_Interactive_Mars_Base/

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:55:44 2020 No.12151102 >>12151095 Double wall it and fill the gap with water, radiation shielding and whipple shield in one for the cost of a bit more steel

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 22 23:56:27 2020 No.12151107 >>12151101 that reminds me, I forget the name of it but is that space race management game done yet

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 00:06:14 2020 No.12151120 File: 330 KB, 1920x1080, ss_1a1c1c9bed5baa36903f00a55b678da23c598a5d.1920x1080.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12151107 found it, mars horizon is the one I was thinking of >Planned Release Date: 2020 i guess not

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 00:07:30 2020 No.12151122 >>12151079 ok but elon's gonna be agreeing with me in a month

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 00:16:21 2020 No.12151137

Will SpaceX actually be safer than NASA?
For the crewed missions of the two, it'll be Starship vs SLS.

SLS will no doubt have far more safety features, and be a more complex vehicle in general.
However, it gets ONE test before a crewed mission, NASA was previously even considering zero tests because each test is mind bogglingly expensive.
And the fact is, the more complex a vehicle, the more testing it requires, and for something sufficiently complex even after a hundred flights something can go wrong in a way no one could have predicted.

Starship is a glorified water tower. Its complexity and price are nothing compared to SLS, and tests only destroy the vehicle if it fails.
It'll have less safety features, but it can launch cheaply or even at a profit, so every part of Starship will be much more heavily tested.

Basically, it becomes a question of two safety design philosophies:
>SLS: Try to never fail
>Starship: Try to fail until you can't

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 00:19:03 2020 No.12151142 >>12151137 Falcon 9 started development after SLS and has already flown crew. My money's on SpaceX.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 00:31:06 2020 No.12151166 >>12151142 I'm talking about safety though, timeliness is a different thing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 00:37:46 2020 No.12151181 what is the THICCEST rocket to ever reach orbit

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 00:38:19 2020 No.12151183

>>12151166
Shuttle had the same insane overbudget development and blew up two crews. SpaceX has been flying Falcon for only a handful of years and hasn't had a failure in a while now despite their launch cadence ramping up massively.

It's the same thing as aircraft, the more flight hours you have the more chances you have to find the unforeseen issues that show up and fix them. The difference this time is that we can do hundreds of unmanned Starlink flights before we put humans anywhere near it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 00:39:27 2020 No.12151184 File: 822 KB, 1092x418, stuffhappens.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12151181 >orbit Saturn ez >attempt to orbit N1

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 00:40:26 2020 No.12151189 >>12151184 I think orangetankbad has higher THICCNESS ratio than saturn though

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 00:41:01 2020 No.12151190

Looking at Wikipedia, Starship has a delta-V of 3.2km/s for the first stage and 3.7km/s for the second.
So how does it get to orbit? That's 6.9km/s minus whatever is lost to gravity and drag on ascent, a 200km orbit around Earth requires travelling at 7.12km/s.
I guess a little bit is contributed by Earth's rotation, but once you account for ascent losses there's still no way that Starship can get to LEO.

Am I just retarded and missing something?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 00:41:20 2020 No.12151191 >>12151184 What about Energia, it was all about thicc instead of tall

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 00:41:44 2020 No.12151193 >>12150784 Building a moon lander provided you can easily and cheaply get it into LEO is really trivial. It's arguably easier than making a submarine

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 00:44:43 2020 No.12151201 >>12151190 You're missing that wikipedia is shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 01:03:04 2020 No.12151238 >ANOTHER recycle Just fucking shoot it with a rocket launcher. DO SOMETHING

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 01:04:53 2020 No.12151245 File: 1.20 MB, 3840x2160, 1582553222604.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] soon

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 01:07:37 2020 No.12151252 >>12151245 >a fucking tin can

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 01:16:47 2020 No.12151271 fuckin blasting the lunar survace with microwaves to melt landing pads when?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 01:36:23 2020 No.12151303 >>12151271 The geoengineers need to get a few beers down before trying the crazy stuff

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 01:38:27 2020 No.12151306 >>12151245 Wasn't Starship supposed to have windows

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 01:38:43 2020 No.12151308 What does a Martian colony need to be resource independent? Resource independence is the most important thing possible, because if it isn’t achieved before fossil fuels run out of earth, technological civilization will be gone forever.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 01:44:44 2020 No.12151313 giant solar power satellites with power transmission lasers that can be used for melting surfaces on the moon for infrastructure projects when?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 01:46:39 2020 No.12151316 >>12151313 after Space Force uses them to crack open the Three Gorges Dam and retires them to LLO.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 01:48:02 2020 No.12151319 >>12151308 Everything from farms to chip fabs. It's not a small task.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 01:51:51 2020 No.12151327 >>12151306 Not the cargo version.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:02:46 2020 No.12151340 >>12150695 ? based on this tweet? Jim is most definitely gone if either candidate wins. It's not a question anymore. Lori Garver or Jeff DeWit, pick your poison

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:03:51 2020 No.12151342 File: 557 KB, 1920x1080, KSP_x64 2020-09-22 23-02-22.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] god i fucking love IVAs bros

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:06:18 2020 No.12151344 >>12151306 OH NO NO NO

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:17:58 2020 No.12151365 Imagine if building time becomes a thing in KSP2

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:26:38 2020 No.12151386

>>12151308
The big ticket item is electronics production. If they can do microchips, they're golden.
Mars has all the necessary chemistry to sustain people indefinitely, but a colony will need the facilities to manufacture sophisticated electronics in order to be truly independent.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:29:02 2020 No.12151390 File: 341 KB, 372x1030, MSZG-Quattro.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] so what are YOU doing for the glory of Zeon

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:31:22 2020 No.12151398 >>12151308 >fossil fuels run out lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:32:27 2020 No.12151399 >>12151398 Ah yes infinite oil produced by magic fountains

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:34:27 2020 No.12151405 i-is it still habbening?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:34:39 2020 No.12151406 >>12151386 no, fuck chips

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:36:59 2020 No.12151412 >>12151399 yes, retard

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:37:33 2020 No.12151415 >>12151190 Starship alone has >5 km/s of delta V with a 100 ton payload or it wouldn't be able to get to Mars. More likely it has ~6 km/s with 150 tons payload once fully evolved.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:38:35 2020 No.12151419 >>12151306 These are prototypes, anon

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:39:14 2020 No.12151420

>>12151308
>Fossil fuels running out
When the quantity of fossil fuels mined from the earth begin to decline The increased price will push market demand towards the development of alternatives, like expanding green energy improving electric cars and hopefully implementing nuclear power in place of coal oil and natural gas

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:40:51 2020 No.12151428 >>12151415 By "Starship alone" do you mean without the booster? Also, source?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:41:40 2020 No.12151431 File: 185 KB, 273x421, firefox_2020-09-23_01-41-26.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] we frosty

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:42:25 2020 No.12151433 >>12151417 Nuclear fossil fuels, ie uranium and thorium

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:43:17 2020 No.12151436 >>12151399 But there are no fossil fuels on Mars at all, how will a civilization survive and develop there if it's impossible without fossils even here on Earth?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:45:08 2020 No.12151439 >>12151420 We will probably transition before that point anyway, economics seem that way at least. I fuckin love the climate/peak oil doomer talk about the end of oil. Commies dont understand capitalism

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:45:34 2020 No.12151440 Was there another attempt to pop SN7.1? Looking it up, I can only see countless articles saying "SN7.1 prepares to pop"

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:45:51 2020 No.12151441 >>12151166 It's got fucking SRBs; that automatically makes SLS inherently less safe

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:46:17 2020 No.12151442 >>12151440 They've attempted like 10 times.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:47:08 2020 No.12151443 >>12151442 unpoppable u n s t o p p a b l e

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:47:38 2020 No.12151444 >>12151443 Or rather, their ground equipment is bottom of the barrel trash.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:49:53 2020 No.12151449 just fucking weight down 7.1 and drop it into a deep sea trench

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:51:26 2020 No.12151450 >>12151441 Nope, SRBs work fine most of the time. Seethe more SLS hater. The problem with Shuttle was no launch abort, which SLS has. You sit back and masturbate to Starship all day, despite it having no abort system. You are not based

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:51:30 2020 No.12151451 oh baby

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:51:38 2020 No.12151452

>>12151436
>But there are no fossil fuels on Mars at all, how will a civilization survive and develop there if it's impossible without fossils even here on Earth?

Solar power and nuclear provide sufficient EROI to sustain a smaller scale and more utilitarian society on Mars, but civilization on Earth is so bloated and dependent on fossil fuels that any resulting drought of them would be cataclysmic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:52:31 2020 No.12151454 God damn the people on this stream are fucking gay

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:52:56 2020 No.12151455

>>12151428
>By "Starship alone" do you mean without the booster?
Yes, as in Starship alone. Duh.
>Source?
Assuming 150 tons dry mass, 150 tons payload, and 1300 tons propellant (all reasonable), with Raptor Vacuum Isp of 375, Starship achieves 6156.04 m/s of delta V with a burnout mass of 300 tons. Reserve another 100 tons of landing propellant and the delta V drops to 5098.09 m/s, still enough to get to Mars but now you can actually land. Source is I did the math, it's pretty simple.
Real world Starship's figures are gonna vary from these estimates but not by too much, and remember, all they need to do to increase the delta V is stretch the tanks a bit in order to bring up the mass fraction. In fact getting ~6 km/s in a single chemical stage isn't that hard at all, you almost need to try to be shitty in order to get less than 5 km/s per stage, but getting >7 km/s per stage is running into a wall, and much beyond that the rocket equation really starts to bite you in the ass.
Oh, and the Booster will throw Starship up to about 3.5 km/s, and it'll also have a better mass fraction than Starship. There are basically two targets for the Booster; be able to supply Starship with at least 3500 m/s, and be able to boost back to land at the launch site for reuse. That's why the Booster has been considered by SpaceX to be the easy problem; it's because it is.
>muh big
Big isn't hard, faggots. Big is big. If you don't make it hard, it won't be hard. Fuck SLS.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:53:59 2020 No.12151456 >>12151436 see >>12151433

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:54:43 2020 No.12151460 >>12151454 200 DOLLAR SUPERCHAT GUYS EPIC BASED EPIC BASED NERDLE NERDLE TEXAS TANK WATCHERS SPANK ME

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:55:06 2020 No.12151461 >>12151450 Why would Starship need an abort option? Planes don't have an abort option if the tail falls off. Just don't design your rocket so shitty on purpose that it needs a launch escape system and your problem is solved, lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:55:19 2020 No.12151462 >>12151390 Plotting to steal Venus's atmosphere to make a giant ball of dry ice

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:56:48 2020 No.12151464 File: 1.28 MB, 1920x1080, frosty chocolate milkshakes.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] TH-THAT'S FROSTY!

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:57:08 2020 No.12151465 >>12151440 You've gotta check the streams if you want to keep up to date. Articles can only get you so far with Spacex.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:58:14 2020 No.12151466 >>12151439 >Capitalism will defy thermodynamics with fuckin magic

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:59:09 2020 No.12151468 >>12151462 >150 km diameter graphene sphere encapsulating 1 Venusian atmosphere's mass worth of supercritical CO2 with a single mammoth nuclear thermal engine on one end WHEN?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 02:59:12 2020 No.12151469 >>12151464 >sitting there, just chilling DO SOMETHING

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:01:46 2020 No.12151473 >>12151466 Are you so stupid that you think transition to non-fossil energy is thermodynamically impossible for Earth's current society?

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:02:52 2020 No.12151475

>>12151461
Rockets are not planes and never will be. They will only be as reliable as planes when they achieve massive cadence increase and remain in service for 30+ years with no RUD.

You can't just make a Starship and say "there, it's reliable". Reliability is earned, retard. And SpaceX, as based as they are, have not yet achieved that level of reliability (especially not with a rocket thst's never fucking flown)

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:03:55 2020 No.12151476 I wish NSF answered questions in the chat instead of reading the superchats

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:04:14 2020 No.12151478 >>12151468 >What's the plan for this CO2 sphere, anyway? >I'm gonna put it on an escape trajectory from the solar system and hopefully one day it'll confuse some aliens

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:04:18 2020 No.12151479 >>12151466 vast majority of all added energy capacity per year is renewable, cope more doomer

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:05:47 2020 No.12151482 >>12151475 Folks keep saying how reliable aeroplanes are. Well thats because it takes around 15 years to design an aeroplane.

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:06:08 2020 No.12151483

>>12151475
Are you under the impression that they are gonna put humans on the first or second flight? With Starlink they have financial incentive to do hundreds of launches without a single external customer. By the time they put humans on board it'll have more launches under it's belt than most other major launchers combined.

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:10:14 2020 No.12151495

>>12151483
Aeroplanes are carefully designed over a decade. They have triple redundancies for many systems. The code is carefully analyzed. That is the reason why they are so safe.
You are mixing up cause and effect. Its not "They have flown many times so they are safe". Its "They are so safe, thats why it has flown many times without issues.".
Starship, atleast the way its designed now, isn't going to do dozens of launches without RUDs.

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:10:46 2020 No.12151497

>>12151482
Also because airplanes have been flying for a hundred years. Even then, the reliability only skyrocketed after commercial flight became common. The thing that improves safety isn't some fancy new technology or intricate emergency mechanism, it's flying the same design over and over and over to find every tiny little flaw that you can fix.

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:13:20 2020 No.12151500
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>>12151495
>Starship, atleast the way its designed now, isn't going to do dozens of launches without RUDs.

Early on it's going to RUD constantly. And every time, they'll find out where the failure came from and fix it. Look at Falcon 9, it followed this exact trend.

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:14:25 2020 No.12151504

>>12151495
>Aeroplanes are carefully designed over a decade. They have triple redundancies for many systems. The code is carefully analyzed.

bullshit, 737 max was made by the biggest oldest and most iconic company, they just outsourced the shit and released the first version of it with no bug checking to the extent that the plane could and did completely override the pilot from any action while it randomly decided to accelerate directly towards the floor until it crashed.

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:14:25 2020 No.12151505

>>12151483
I'm tampering expectations of SpaceX stans. I believe Starship could become reliable. It's not reliable by engineering merit alone.

>>12151482
Plane engineering has had almost 120 years to mature, while orbital rockets have had roughly half that time (with only a fraction of the cadence). Human spaceflight is even less mature due to even lower cadence and fewer iterations.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:14:48 2020 No.12151508 >>12151473 It’s possible if billions of people die and living standards decline.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:15:52 2020 No.12151512 >>12151479 Renewable energy is unable to provide base load power. It’s shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:16:00 2020 No.12151513 >>12151508 retard

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:16:52 2020 No.12151515 >>12151513 Dumbass

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:17:09 2020 No.12151516 >>12150791 SSMEs do not have a 100% success rate

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:17:15 2020 No.12151517 >>12151512 nuclear base load, renewable for the rest. you are a gay retard

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:17:24 2020 No.12151518 >>12151508 >stans. why would living standard declien after billion die?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:18:18 2020 No.12151520 >>12151518 Based

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:18:20 2020 No.12151521

>>12151500
>>12151500
Hardware rich testing isn't always good. Every failure sets you back in terms of money and time.
To say it again : Aeroplanes take a decade to design. They don't have a hardware-rich testing program.
Very silly to compare with planes.
That graph - you can infer what you want from any 2d graph. It doesn't say cause and effect.
Both of those numbers could depend on a third parameter.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:18:41 2020 No.12151522 File: 201 KB, 2048x1280, EilIqYYWoAEAYbY.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >THIS NIGGA POPPIN BEANS

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:18:41 2020 No.12151523 File: 81 KB, 938x974, NPC_angry.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >I'm tampering expectations of SpaceX stans

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:19:22 2020 No.12151524 >>12151518 Modern living standards are allowed by expansive international shipping dependent on petroleum’s EROI and energy density and by modern agriculture, which is reliant on fertilizer made from petroleum and depleting reserves of groundwater.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:20:37 2020 No.12151527 >>12151524 just use sails and hydroponics lmao

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:20:53 2020 No.12151528

>>12151505
No one in their right mind thinks that the first SS/SH stack is going to go straight to orbit and then everything is going to launch and land 100% reliably after that. SN8 is probably gonna crash, SN9 as well. At some point we'll have a landing leg failure, at some point we may have an aero surface shear off. There will probably be a Raptor that'll explode and wipe out a Superheavy. There will probably be another GSE issue that wipes out a full stack.

The entire point of the program is to build so many that they can blow them up with reckless abandon early on so that they can identify and fix the failure points before putting people anywhere near them. The benefit they have is that in this process, they can also cram all of these potential failure rockets with cheap Starlink payloads to subsidize their cost until they eventually stop being deathtraps.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:21:29 2020 No.12151531 >>12151504 737Max is a refresh. I'm talking about a new plane design. Also, MCAS was not outsourced. This lie has to die. >>12151505 True. Thats why I think we won't see aeroplane-level reliability until the late 30s.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:22:45 2020 No.12151532 File: 123 KB, 905x533, Earf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12151528 >fully fueled full stack RUD on the pad

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:23:54 2020 No.12151537 >>12151052 cold gas nitrogen, either the same as the ones on Falcon (just in multiples) or a scaled up one eventually they'll substitute a methane/oxygen gas torch for the cold gas source and have a hot gas thruster

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:23:57 2020 No.12151538

>>12151521
>Hardware rich testing isn't always good
Falcon 1
Falcon 9
>Every failure sets you back in terms of money and time
SpaceX has essentially infinite money currently and they are building ships faster than they can test them
>Aeroplanes take a decade to design
Starship has been in development for at least 4-5 years and has likely been in the concept phase for longer than that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:24:20 2020 No.12151540 >>12151527 im gonna power my house with my own farts, because i fart A LOT

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:25:00 2020 No.12151542 File: 14 KB, 324x451, 1525150938164.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] God dammit, pop or scrub already. I need to go to sleep.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:25:06 2020 No.12151544 >>12151450 I don't hate SLS anon, but the fact is the risk of tons of solid explosive going off at once limits you to an oldspace capsule payload with a small crew and a tractor tower LES if you want safety. It's hard to compare to what SS is trying.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:27:04 2020 No.12151547 >>12151538 I don't wan't to argue with you, time will tell who was right

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:28:10 2020 No.12151552 >>12151542 >daily NSF pop streams continue >grift pot now totals $5500. God I wish I ran a forum impersonating NASA to get donation from scrubs (pun intended)

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:30:46 2020 No.12151561 >>12151464 >frosting up that's something something is happening

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:31:39 2020 No.12151564

>>12151547
>time will tell who was right
It already has
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvim4rsNHkQ

Paper rockets and decades of planning leads to SLS and Blue Origin. Rapid iteration leads to Falcon 9 becoming cheapest and most used rocket on the planet.

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:36:41 2020 No.12151575
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>>12151544
True. Honestly I think LES' are a placebo and the ability to escape a RUDing booster is cancelled out by the tanks of hypergols surrounding you (in case of Dragon).

Imagine a booster RUD, LES triggering, and Dragon explodes in a flaming fury. LES creates totally new failure modes.

And if depressurization happens in space, you're completely fucked as no abort would save you

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:40:09 2020 No.12151580

>>12151575
It makes a lot more sense with liquid boosters since it's relatively simple to force a rocket engine to shut down in the event of an anomaly. With a solid there are plenty of failure modes where you just have to cross your fingers and hope that the LES goes off in time and pulls in a direction that dodges the fireball.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:41:36 2020 No.12151585 I don’t get how dark matter makes any sense. Surely it would clump up in exactly the same places normal matter does, like in stars, and even make dark matter star things

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:43:09 2020 No.12151587 >>12151575 a launch escape system has only ever been used once on a soyuz in the 80s successfully, and another soyuz failed to reach orbit in 2018 and successfully ditched the rocket after the LES was jettisoned

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:44:11 2020 No.12151590 >>12151585 Dark matter wouldn't make stars if the forces that cause nuclear fusion don't happen with whatever it's composed of

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:48:42 2020 No.12151598 >>12151590 Sure, but it’d still form bigass clumps the size and shape of stars.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:49:10 2020 No.12151600 >>12151585 clumping only happens when you have forces other than gravity to get rid of angular momentum

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:52:14 2020 No.12151602 >>12151600 Stars form when gas pressure fails against gravity, so whatever the heck dark matter is supposed to be ought to be more voluminous than gas particles if it’s not making invisible dark matter stars

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:53:04 2020 No.12151605 >>12151585 Dark stars have been theorized to exist in the early universe, but they do not endure to today. I'm not sure what the consensus is on their existence

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:53:48 2020 No.12151606 File: 218 KB, 630x473, anger.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I am beginning to hate this tank

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:55:23 2020 No.12151611 >>12151605 JWST can see far enough to detect these if they exist

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:55:29 2020 No.12151612 >>12151606 it's very frosty tonight has it gotten so frosty previously

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:56:45 2020 No.12151614 >>12151612 if you donate $500 to nsf it will pop

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:57:27 2020 No.12151616 >>12151612 no, we haven't gotten this much ice before

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:57:29 2020 No.12151617 >>12151605 Why not? If dark matter doesn’t even interact kinetically with itself, meaning there is no pressure working against gravity, then it should even be a bunch of black holes, not just invisible stars

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:57:40 2020 No.12151618 >>12151614 sorry I need that $500 dollars for ammo

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:58:28 2020 No.12151620 >>12151614 nsf stream is terrible, muted Lab stream is where its at

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 03:59:50 2020 No.12151622

>>12151602
If you're only interacting with other particles via gravity, you can't really form any structures because you don't have any good way to get red of energy. If you collide two particles of normal matter they can stick together and radiate that energy away as heat/light, but if you try to do that with only gravity they just fly right past each other and fuck off again. Normal matter has lots of ways to lose energy and settle down, but dark matter can't really do that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:01:06 2020 No.12151624 >>12151617 it does interact with itself, but very weakly. I had the same thoughts as you awhile back but I can't remember the consensus. google it lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:01:16 2020 No.12151625 >>12151617 just run a quick n-body simulation but disable collision for all the particles and you'll see why that doesn't work

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:02:45 2020 No.12151629 rocket simps

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:04:19 2020 No.12151632 File: 165 KB, 683x1024, National+Geographic+Channel+MARS+Premiere+l6L8OmGm1pqx.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm back, assholes. Are you on Mars yet?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:04:47 2020 No.12151633 File: 178 KB, 800x1071, 1596922201552.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12151632 yes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:07:20 2020 No.12151637 Apollo 50 washington monument thingy was a paid advertisement for SLS ahahaha On another note, washington monument is a fucking Big Boi, makes saturn look short and thin

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:08:14 2020 No.12151639 The Chad SN7.1. Making /sci/ and NSF virgins mad

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:08:37 2020 No.12151640

>>12151622
Maybe it can. If dark matter interacts with itself, then it could get rid of energy by smacking into other dark matter, or even radiate it away with dark photons

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/1778566_Globular_Clusters_as_a_Test_for_Gravity_in_the_Weak_Acceleration_Regime

Maybe I’m just a dumbass but I think there’s probably “”dark matter”” knocking about but also gravity working in ways not currently modeled

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:18:16 2020 No.12151656 File: 83 KB, 280x291, BLBLLBLLBGUFVRIOVJ.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I ALMOST MISSED THE POP FUCKKKKKKKKKK

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:18:20 2020 No.12151657 >>12151633 Whats with the gun?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:19:13 2020 No.12151661 >>12151657 recreational

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:21:05 2020 No.12151666 >>12151656 Nothing will happen till the top bulkhead goes frosty and the vents at the top stop.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:25:02 2020 No.12151675 Is it happening /sfg/?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:26:42 2020 No.12151684 >>12151657 Gotta shoot the space niggers

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:27:59 2020 No.12151688 >>12151657 To...to shoot people?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:30:00 2020 No.12151693 File: 42 KB, 646x595, DDe9jmjXYAAaPQ2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If I go take a shit will I miss the pop

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:30:25 2020 No.12151694 >>12151693 no

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:30:32 2020 No.12151697 >>12151693 no

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:30:38 2020 No.12151698 >>12151657 Well you see, some moron smuggled 500 mosins and several hundred thousand rounds of ammunition on one of the early colony supply flights. Long story short, now all the patrols have to be armed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:31:23 2020 No.12151704 >>12151693 You can rewind.

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:33:06 2020 No.12151708

>>12150876
the new channel name is clever
new vid sounds better; less reading errors
reading still stiff though which makes attempts to add emotion sound forced and fake like in 3:23
content is good (if a little too light and summarized, but that's my personal taste) and the mention of primary sources is good as well

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:38:30 2020 No.12151720 POP WHEN

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:39:13 2020 No.12151722 >>12151720 Probably another hour.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:39:21 2020 No.12151724 >>12151698 >500 mosins remember when that was cheap? good times

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:40:17 2020 No.12151726

>>12151452
And by 1950s cities will be covered in 3 meters of horse dung. Oh wait, that didn't happen. It's almost like industry and society are not static and easily adapt to whatever works best for them at the moment, even if it's something completely unthinkable before

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:43:32 2020 No.12151732 >>12151726 Your religious faith is fascinating.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:44:49 2020 No.12151734 If it takes this long to frost it why don't they just build a big freezer in the high bay? Problem solved

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:46:26 2020 No.12151737 >>12151732 Not an argument, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:47:20 2020 No.12151738 >>12151737 There is no argument to have. You have a religious belief that humans can do impossible things and I do not.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:47:25 2020 No.12151739 File: 46 KB, 1124x749, dbb7eb866e3d60d6c67d2dfb8a07a6bd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] POP

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:48:24 2020 No.12151743 fuck why is building rovers such a pain in the ass

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:49:25 2020 No.12151745 >>12151743 the system isn't designed for them very well

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:50:23 2020 No.12151749 >>12151724 For a little while this year it was surplus commie SKSes

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:52:16 2020 No.12151751 File: 60 KB, 190x182, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] FUCKING YOUTUBE

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 04:55:54 2020 No.12151753 if it's going to pop it will be soon

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:03:13 2020 No.12151767

>>12151738
That was a different anon by the way and what exactly is impossible? We're way past depending solely on oil and mostly use it because it's cheap and we already have the infrastructure. Doesn't mean at all we can't switch to something else as our primary energy source. Renewables aren't limited to solar and wind either.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:07:35 2020 No.12151775 We may never see a pressing tank /sfg/

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:09:07 2020 No.12151778 I saw tank vent. tank is high sus.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:10:54 2020 No.12151784 >Detanking AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:10:58 2020 No.12151785 There's so much ice it's starting to splinter off. JUST POP.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:11:32 2020 No.12151786 Mr Gorbachev, close down that valve!

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:11:38 2020 No.12151787 Listening to the commentators reminds me why I hate talking to people.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:12:50 2020 No.12151791 >>12151787 damn i was like you too, but you should really try talking to people. Networking opens up so many job opportunities

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:13:10 2020 No.12151792 So they were actually waiting for the meme time huh

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:14:47 2020 No.12151794 falling ice means the tank is changing size this means they're pressurizing it, probably

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:17:34 2020 No.12151799 File: 380 KB, 1920x1080, KSP_x64 2020-09-23 02-16-58.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] beep beep!

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:18:21 2020 No.12151801 "Elon I don't feel so good" - SN 7.1

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:26:12 2020 No.12151811 >>12151801 >"Want a beer, Elon?" - SN 7.1

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:30:06 2020 No.12151819 hey guys is it going to pop

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:30:29 2020 No.12151822 I'm a space brainlet mostly explain why they need all this ice to form i know they put ln2 into it but what indication does the frost give them, that its getting fully pressurized or?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:32:24 2020 No.12151824 ANY SPACE SEX INSiders in the chat? Let me know if it about to blowww

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:32:47 2020 No.12151826 >>12151824 pop is scrubbed

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:33:13 2020 No.12151828 >>12151822 The ice isn't important

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:33:43 2020 No.12151829 File: 211 KB, 1200x675, monkas.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What do you think the spacex engineers are waiting for?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:33:48 2020 No.12151830 >>12151822 it means theres cold thing inside

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:33:57 2020 No.12151831 >>12151826 ok i know you're lying but can u answer my uestions?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:34:19 2020 No.12151832 >>12151822 It means they've been sitting there pumping nitrogen in and then venting it out immediately for like 6 hours for no reason and shit got cold.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:34:38 2020 No.12151833 >>12151828 oh ok >>12151830 i see i see

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:34:40 2020 No.12151834 >>12151824 the mexican scrapmetal valves malfunctioned and we can't stop the venting :(

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:34:58 2020 No.12151835 >>12151829 The explosion will be equivalent to a low yield nuclear bomb

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:37:08 2020 No.12151843 >>12151834 fucking just duct tape it shut, christ do your job you pathetic dweeb

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:44:51 2020 No.12151859 Why does only the top half get frosted over? Are they only pressurizing the top section?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:47:07 2020 No.12151862 File: 653 KB, 1920x1080, KSP_x64 2020-09-23 02-45-25.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12151799 okay, I think rover is ready now I have to figure out the fucking hell i'm going to attach this thing to a lander and get it to the moon

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:47:48 2020 No.12151867 scrub cancelled? what the fuck space-x. are tehy pussy are something? what the =ffffuck

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:51:43 2020 No.12151873 pop scrub is scrubbed

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:52:10 2020 No.12151874

ITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENINGITS HAPPENING

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:52:13 2020 No.12151875 >>12151859 Because that's where the fuel tank is. The bottom is just the engine skirt

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:53:27 2020 No.12151877 File: 100 KB, 218x386, Screen Shot 2020-09-23 at 3.52.53 AM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's happening here? Bottom left of the tank

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:54:44 2020 No.12151878 File: 74 KB, 585x470, 1556784298650.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12151867 REEEEEEEEEE MUM WHERE ARE MY TENDIES? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:55:22 2020 No.12151882 Aren't they suffocating all wildlife downwind by releasing this much nitrogen for so long?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:58:26 2020 No.12151887 POPPPP

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:58:40 2020 No.12151888 COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:59:10 2020 No.12151889 OOOOHHHHH IM POPPING

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:59:49 2020 No.12151890 Guys... no pop today :( I'll see you all on stream tomorrow

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 05:59:58 2020 No.12151891 P O P

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 06:00:21 2020 No.12151892 epic

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 06:01:50 2020 No.12151896 >>12151882 yeah, the ACLU has a pending lawsuit against space-x for this

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 06:07:45 2020 No.12151903 File: 191 KB, 2048x1536, 98764d5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 06:10:00 2020 No.12151909 Guys, ok GUYS when is SN8 now?? becauseee I gotta know when there we will have SN8? respond soon

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 06:12:29 2020 No.12151910 >>12151909 Tomorrow

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 06:22:46 2020 No.12151920 It finally popped.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 06:32:06 2020 No.12151928 >>12151920 It coomed all over the place, poor animal frens

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 06:41:27 2020 No.12151935 >>12151920 It wasn't even a big pop. What a beast. Is sn8 304L already?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 06:50:32 2020 No.12151943 >>12149803 >he does't know about sci-hub

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 06:51:42 2020 No.12151946 anyone have a torrent to Vice's new documentary "Between Musk and Mars"? Its about Boca Chica residents

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 06:52:45 2020 No.12151947 File: 31 KB, 519x654, 2020-09-23 20_50_58-KeymapCanvasWindow.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12151903 Why yes I am making reusable superheavy boosters, how did you know?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 06:53:17 2020 No.12151948 >>12151946 No audio though : Vice Versa - Between Musk and Mars Anyone find a good stream?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 06:55:35 2020 No.12151950 >>12151946 Why would you waste your time on anything made by vice?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 06:57:18 2020 No.12151955 >>12151950 I don't like them, but my friend told me this one is actually quite informative.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 06:57:52 2020 No.12151956 >>12151946 Just saw the trailer. It feels like the new left wants me to hate them.

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 07:00:11 2020 No.12151958
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Wow, SpaceX blew up another tank? What a bunch of amateurs. Not that easy is it, Musk. If SpaceX can't pressurize a simple tank without destroying it, they will never (repeat NEVER) make it to Mars

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 07:00:22 2020 No.12151959 >STILL nobody has nuked the moon bro wtf

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 07:01:18 2020 No.12151960 >>12151955 isn't whole thing demonizing SpaceX for paying Boca Chica residents 4x home value to leave?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 07:04:09 2020 No.12151963 >>12151956 Trailer os shite, but doc is good Found a way : vice has a free 90mim pass. Had to VPN to the US

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 07:25:18 2020 No.12151996 hydrogen sulfide NTR when

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 07:45:43 2020 No.12152021 LMFAO this vice documentary is hilarious. They added explosion sound effects to when starshopper caught fire that one time. And yes, most of the documentary is the villagers complaining. It works as a comedy

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 07:47:19 2020 No.12152025 File: 53 KB, 1024x576, e9f.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12152021 they added so much scary music to the explosions, i fucking can't

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 07:52:23 2020 No.12152030 >>12151909 it wont be hopping until oct 11 at the earliest

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 08:00:34 2020 No.12152040 >>12152021 >I have no interest in going to Mars >it's not even SAFE to go to Mars actual quote from Boca Chica Villager who wants to sue SpaceX because she sold her house and regretted it

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 08:03:03 2020 No.12152045 >>12152021 Why do the left try to slander SpaceX at every opportunity? You'd think they'd be all about the utopian ideals associated with space exploration

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 08:08:00 2020 No.12152053 >>12149754 I'm guessing electric bad, gasoline gud

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 08:10:47 2020 No.12152058 >>12151996 hopefully never I'm not into cuckholding or erotic farting, let alone combining the two

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 08:14:28 2020 No.12152065

>>12152045
If their utopian goals are actually achieved then they have no purpose. This is the same reason why NAACP exists today, now fighting against made up foes like institutional racism. Also, same reason why the left is super against nuclear despite it being carbon free, efficient, and a perfect compliment to renewables for base load.

I swear to god, in the doc they make SpaceX out to be "evil corporate America" stepping on the little guy. Be my guest bro, don't sell, and enjoy the industrial zone in your backyard

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 08:18:58 2020 No.12152078 >>12152045 Liberals don't care about progress or utopias. They care about disaffected groups. Money spent on starship is money not spent on poor people, and the test site interferes with the local ecology

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 08:19:56 2020 No.12152080

>>12152045
Because Musk is the best example how governments have wasted 2 generations failing to get space economy going and it took one autist to make future exciting again.
Spacex youtube and Musk twitter did more to push young people toward STEM than billions of "stem outreach" that nasa has wasted over past decades reliving 1960s

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 08:24:11 2020 No.12152088

>>12152080
Musk inspired me to despise government, taxes, and leftist notions about free college and free healthcare. Like yeah, let's give our money to the government so they can give it to the scam healthcare system and scam colleges.

Fucking christ. If Musk proved anything, it's that autism+capitalism is the only way to shit done. It's all about incentives and economics

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 08:37:09 2020 No.12152109 >>12152045 If the motivated among us leave the planet to live among the stars, there won’t be anyone left to feed the under-performers that western society has been dragging along for the past few centuries.

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 08:48:05 2020 No.12152130
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>>12151708
You don't understand how insecure I was about the name, none of my normal friends got it.

Trying to write a script where I can work the emotion in better. Trying to write it where someone with a passing interest in spaceflight will be interested. Thanks for the interest.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 08:54:47 2020 No.12152133 Also anyone looking for a fuck ton of reports on space policy should definitely check this out. They're a bit bearish but they can be a nice reality check. https://www.ida.org/en/ida-ffrdcs/science-and-technology-policy-institute/space-portfolio

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 08:55:40 2020 No.12152135 >>12152130 Different anon here. This isn't a channel for normies, so no worries there. I like what I see so far! I'll be listening to your future episodes. Is there anything specific that I can help with?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 09:05:01 2020 No.12152151 >>12150925 >mimi Stopped using that after installing omnichan

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 09:24:15 2020 No.12152182
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>>12152135
Thanks!
I usually come here when choosing a topic for videos, any suggestions you guys have are really appreciated. Or just general feedback and interaction with my vids.

Right now I'm trying to decide between:
Vulcan video
Economics of Starship
Kinda leaning towards the latter first just to see how a dedicated starship video plays out, both are going to be made though.

Also check this shit out lol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOucwrZJ44g

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 09:30:40 2020 No.12152194 >>12150047 allergic to fun.

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 09:34:19 2020 No.12152201

>>12152182
You can do so much better than that cringe video. Wow, that's bad.
Regarding your video ideas: the economics of starship is definitely the right move. People want to imagine how this will play out, if it's practical, etc.
Also, side-note: how do you intend to advertise your videos? Are you sticking to just YouTube, or using other social media channels? Are you wanting to reach out to other YouTubers? Are you gaming the tags and search engine functions?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 09:36:45 2020 No.12152206 When will SN8 be finished

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 09:43:57 2020 No.12152219 File: 2.28 MB, 614x441, pop.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >no pop video Disappointing How can you consider this /SFG/ without pop video?

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 09:45:07 2020 No.12152221

>>12152201
I'm just doing research on SEO and stuff. I tried posting the video on some subreddits but I need 10 karma lol. I'll make a twitter when I get 100 subs. I talked to that other guy who posted a video on here, don't think he responded.

Working on the Starship video right now.

>>12152206
Probably a week(tm). Actual hop should be much later.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 09:47:11 2020 No.12152230 File: 334 KB, 3840x2160, Starship-2019-Saturn-render-SpaceX-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12152219 Noice

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 10:09:11 2020 No.12152263 >>12152221 Subscribed

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 10:15:53 2020 No.12152275 >>12152263 Thanks man. Means a lot for a small channel.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 10:20:36 2020 No.12152284 >spacex will be generating their own liquid oxygen onsite at boca why?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 10:22:29 2020 No.12152290 >>12152284 They're autistic about vertical integration.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 10:25:45 2020 No.12152302 File: 334 KB, 1200x675, 1594523034402.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12152230

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 10:26:32 2020 No.12152304 >>12152302 kino

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 10:29:29 2020 No.12152310 >>12152284 They need to for mars.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 10:30:57 2020 No.12152314 >>12152284 With how much they intend to use, it only makes sense

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 10:32:35 2020 No.12152317 >>12151657 SHALL NOT

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 10:53:18 2020 No.12152386 >>12152284 Extraterrestial fuel production is a vital part of plans to go to Mars. Makes sense that they'd start dabbling in the fuel production process early on.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 10:59:04 2020 No.12152403 Is there any difference other than the bell between engines that see use both at sea level and in a vacuum? For example, Merlin and Raptor.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 10:59:36 2020 No.12152406 >>12152021 Got a link to watch it without giving money to Vice?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 11:11:21 2020 No.12152433 >>12152021 Vice is garbage. David Choe hitchhiking was the last thing I ever enjoyed from those fags.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 11:32:05 2020 No.12152479 >>12152403 iirc the Merlin Vacuum is permanently down-throttled compared to Merlin SL

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 12:07:55 2020 No.12152574 File: 28 KB, 768x432, space short bus.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12152021 As Van Braun would call it... "Lügenpresse"

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 12:33:53 2020 No.12152645 >>12152045 SpaceX is interplanetary white flight

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 12:48:43 2020 No.12152681 >>12152219 I went to bed because they apparently waited until I literally couldn't stay awake to do the pop.

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 12:56:07 2020 No.12152701

>>12152065
>If their utopian goals are actually achieved then they have no purpose.
Indeed, it's in the left's interests to *worsen* conditions until they get to the point where firstly their incessant moaning actually has some basis in fact, and where secondly the population are so dumbed down and demoralised as to remove their ability to force change.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 12:56:09 2020 No.12152702 >>12152681 It wasn't that impressive desu and I won't bother watching livestreams that don't involve a flight any more

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:04:17 2020 No.12152724 File: 1.71 MB, 937x936, 1595871033032.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12152219 Finally that fucker stopped hogging the test stand. Now it's SN8's hour.

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:05:54 2020 No.12152733

>>12152681
I was in bed with a computer playing the stream nearby and apparently I fell asleep again just before it popped. I'd look over and it would still be venting every time I looked. So then I backed up in the stream to watch it and it wasn't a bad pop at all, it just kind of all failed at once, which is good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:11:14 2020 No.12152752 >>12151517 Nuclear is renewable, just do nuclear

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:14:20 2020 No.12152768

>>12151524
Nuclear energy for running Sabatier and hydrocarbon chain synthesis reactions, generating liquid hydrocarbon fuel from atmospheric CO2, thus allowing all industries to continue using hydrocarbon chemicals and fuels forever (or at least until nuclear fuels run out, both fission and fusion)

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:18:38 2020 No.12152781 File: 3.90 MB, 3840x2328, HoppingHistory.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Are there any contracted flight customers for Starship? I know New Glenn and Vulcan do. All the NSSL bux went to F9/FH.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:19:46 2020 No.12152787 >>12152781 Other than dearmoon and starlink

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:21:20 2020 No.12152790

>>12151585
If Dark matter doesn't interact through any forces other than gravity it can only lose energy via gravitational wave radiation, which means the timeline for dense dark matter clump formation is extremely long, for example 10^X years, where X is a three digit number. In fact dark matter collapse happens so slowly that it's more likely that most dark matter will have fallen into black holes long before any significantly dense dark matter 'objects' ever form. The remaining fraction of dark matter that isn't eaten by black holes will be 'heated' by the perturbations of black hole encounters and black hole mergers, causing it to spread out across the (then much larger) cosmic voids of the universe, resulting in such a low density and such slow rates of gravitational wave radiation that the timeline for re-collapse of pure dark matter in this dead universe is effectively meaninglessly long. Boltzmann brains would be forming from quantum fluctuations before dark matter managed to form something with the average density of a galaxy again.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:22:41 2020 No.12152792 File: 1.23 MB, 3024x4032, image0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12150608 don't push your luck

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:23:07 2020 No.12152793 File: 50 KB, 1440x600, kerbal-space-program-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12152574 >Van Braun He would call it gele pers, which is dutch and then he'd move on to design another dike... or a windmill or some shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:26:11 2020 No.12152801 >>12152219 We got our pop, now for a hop! >>12152386 They also have a Sabatier test site in Florida iirc.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:28:37 2020 No.12152806 >>12152787 Other than them, I don't think so. Once we see an orbital flight with two stage RTLS I think they'll start popping up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:34:44 2020 No.12152827 >>12152806 That's interesting, because lots have contracts with Vulcan and New Glenn, even though they have roughly similar NET dates. I remember tory saying they've got 33 launches lined up already. Seems like people are still skeptical.

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:35:41 2020 No.12152830

>>12151622
Dark matter can do something analogous to what you describe normal matter doing (losing kinetic energy through collisions as radiated photons), except instead of interacting through the electromagnetic force and losing a photon's worth of energy, two dark matter particles would interact via their gravitational force and radiate an incredibly tiny amount of energy as an ultra-weak gravitational wave.

Literally any accelerating mass is producing gravitational waves and losing kinetic energy, all the time. However, since gravity is such a weak force, the only situations in which gravitational wave radiation is actually significant compared to other interactions is when you have an extremely compact object being accelerated extremely hard. For example, two black holes in orbit of one another, or two neutron stars, or a neutron star and a black hole. These objects are compressing the mass of entire stars into a volume similar to a normal asteroid, and they are moving at easily over half of light speed (during a merger of these compact objects the end velocities approaches light speed). Even so, these objects can take millions of years to actually spin down close enough to each other to have the wave emission strength run away and cause a merger.

By comparison, two particles of dark matter with an average distance between them of over a kilometer (for illustrative purposes) moving at less than 100 km/s relative velocity (otherwise they wouldn't be gravitationally bound to the galaxy) produce such a minuscule amount of gravitational wave radiation that it really does qualify as being undetectable. However, it is real, the dark matter particles DO lose a tiny bit of kinetic energy every time they are accelerated and decelerated by an object with gravity. It just takes a long god damn time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:36:13 2020 No.12152833 are there any good lgbtq+ spaceflight communities

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:37:39 2020 No.12152838 >>12152833 Deviants are please to be standing in trench under launch platform at Baikonur for test of Soviet rockets. Will serve motherland as shock absorbers instead of shock creators.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:39:37 2020 No.12152843 File: 352 KB, 1000x1000, Neptune,_20_August_1989.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Today in history: >1846 – Astronomers Urbain Le Verrier, John Couch Adams and Johann Gottfried Galle collaborate on the discovery of Neptune.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:45:13 2020 No.12152855 >>12152827 ~30 Vulcan launches from military and SNC Dreamchaser

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:45:26 2020 No.12152857

>>12152403
Often times vacuum engines require different plumbing setups in order to allow them to start mid-flight and in zero G, etc. However, since Raptor sea level engines are also going to be used on Starship, and are common with the Raptors on the first stage Booster, I think there may not be as much difference between Raptor Vac and Raptor SL as there is between Merlin 1D Vac and Merlin 1D SL, by comparison.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:45:36 2020 No.12152859 Baking next thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:47:25 2020 No.12152865 Next thread: >>12152862 >>12152862 >>12152862 >>12152862

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:47:41 2020 No.12152866 >>12152859 Yeah I'd like a uhhhhhhhhhh croissant

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:47:58 2020 No.12152870
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>>12152833
Yeah pretty much all of them. Download twitter; it will either satisfy your LGBTACDEFHIJKMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ+ religious search or make you mad and turn you fascist like it did for me. I swear if I hear one more person virtue signal with their she/her pronouns or tell me how I need to start saying "crewed" instead of manned I am going to write a manifesto

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:49:29 2020 No.12152875 >>12152866 See: >>12152865 for a fresh bread.

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 13:55:43 2020 No.12152894

>>12152830
One interesting thing people don't often talk about with warp drive tech is that if we do develop the ability to set up regions of space that are highly warped basically at will, we can almost certainly build dark matter harvesting and storage devices. You see, if we set up a series of flat sheets of highly warped space-time, any dark matter particles passing through could be forced to accelerate and decelerate over and over so hard and so rapidly that they can actually radiate away almost all of their kinetic energy as gravitational waves. The resulting "ultra-cold" dark matter would then simply fall down the nearest gravitational well, which (again, assuming the tech is possible and we've managed to build it) could be a gravitational 'bottle' similar to a magnetic bottle, which would store the dark matter in a densified state for study and maybe even for actual use. Dark matter may be its own antiparticle, you see, which could potentially allow us to use ultra-cold dark matter reactors that simply smush down a cloud of the stuff until the probability of dark matter-dark matter collisions gets high enough that annihilation events begin to occur rapidly, and light is produced. This light can then be captured to generate heat or electricity, or simply reflected off in a focused beam for direct photon-thrust. If we can warp space time not only do we have a means of moving faster than light, it would also allow us to use the majority of matter in the universe as a 100% efficient annihilation fuel for powering our warp drives and for powering more conventional propulsion systems. Even if FTL is impossible, if we can warp space then dark-matter Bussard ramjet spacecraft could still be.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 14:13:17 2020 No.12152956 >>12152870 this is too real for me

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 14:18:59 2020 No.12152974 >>12152894 >Bussard ramjet spacecraft could still be. what speeds would that reach?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 23 14:20:39 2020 No.12152980 >>12152645 And it's going to be glorious.

Anonymous Wed Sep 23 14:26:35 2020 No.12153002

>>12152045
>Why do the left try to slander SpaceX at every opportunity?
because elon musk treats its workers like shit and is a 1% billionaire. How hard is this to grasp? i mean i understand if youre against the left but their logic is really simple for you not to be able to understand it.

WHY WOULD NAZIS BE AGAINST EINSTEIN??? WHATS SO PARTICULAR ABOUT HIM I JUST DONT GET IT

retard

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