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12148627 No.12148627 [Reply] [Original]

The elephant in the room

>> No.12148659

>>12148627
Inb4 redditors strawman and adhom their way out of this. Also lol at people who beilive evolution somehow missed the brain lol. Faggots.

>> No.12148798

You seem to be on the wrong board

>>>/pol/

>> No.12148810

>>12148627
Because 'black' is not a good indication of a person's DNA or ancestry. It's an inaccurate and unproductive way to describe human biological variation.

People in the US for example, get the race assigned to them of the least desirable trait from their parents. A person with a purely homogenous European father and a half African-half European mother will be classified as 'Black' despite the fact that they are, in fact, 3/4 white.

There are no identifiable clusters to which we can sub-classify humans according to race leaving researchers to arbitrarily choose where to cutoff groups of people according to their skin tone or facial features which, if I must explain, is hardly scientific. It doesn't matter whether you're examining bone structure or color, or whatever other markers you desperately use to identify a person's 'race'.

The only way to tell a person's ancestry is to do a DNA test, and I shouldn't have to explain why that's a problem but it's obvious you've never looked into the problem. Humans have migrated and interbred so much over the tens of thousands of years since we left Africa that even using DNA markers does not allow researchers to subdivide humans. For example, saying "I have German ancestors" according to a DNA test is pure fantasy. It's a marketing stunt by Ancestry companies and has no basis in reality. At best we can tell where a person came from by continent but even that's muddied, because again, humans have migrated and interbred for eons.

>> No.12148825

>>12148798
he's not wrong, newfag

>> No.12148826

>>12148810
This means that your 'studies' of racial differences in IQ are deeply flawed from the beginning and that doesn't even go into the problems associated with the psychology of IQ. After a century we can't even define what intelligence is supposed to be. Nor can we agree what constitutes good intelligence. Is a person gifted in music but not in mathematics 'intelligent'?

For example, humans are social animals, just try convincing people to give you funding to research a new rocket engine and you'll learn how important human interaction is. If a person is 'socially' intelligent are they not intelligent? Why don't we test for 'social intelligence' if it's obviously important to function? Who are you to decide what intelligence is or isn't?

So you can't adequately determine what race is. You can't adequately determine what intelligence is and knowing where your data is coming from, you want us to listen to your garbage study which throws out information that doesn't suit their narrative and call it 'science'.

You're a joke. Kindly listen to this guy
>>12148798
And fuck off back to /pol/

>> No.12148849

>>12148826
>tfw m-muh the blacks arent dumb guys
says the minority programs, the lower test standardizations, the gibs, everything.
your whole argument is just
>i-iq testing is a scam guys dont believe it
and you should go back to >>>/r/eddit

>> No.12148855
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12148855

>>12148849
/pol/tard go home!

/pol/tard go home!!!

>> No.12148858

>>12148849
Awwww cute, look at the little poltard thinking this is an argument. This would just be pathetic and sad if it weren't dangerous as hell since you dumbfucks vote.

>> No.12148862

>>12148855
i'm from /b/. The lot of you plebbitniggers should stop touring 4chan or maybe lurk some moar and shut up

>> No.12148867

>>12148858
kek, you're the one over here spouting plebbit tier nonsense despite all the given proof. Why not think of a better argument, tourist?

>> No.12148868

>>12148810
>There are no identifiable clusters to which we can sub-classify humans according to race
Wrong

>> No.12148871

Here is the truth of the matter
Yes, race is real and genetically determinable. Anyone who disagrees either doesn't know what they're talking about or is purposely lying for some reason.
No, there is no correlation between race and genetic intelligence. The genes do not correlate. Anyone who disagrees either doesn't know what they're talking about or is lying for some reason.
Race exists. Intelligence exists. Both have a huge biological/genetic component. Neither are correlated.

>> No.12148873

>>12148871
see >>12148844

>> No.12148877

>>12148868
Oh, cute.

Here, this is the most I'm willing to do for you.
https://www.nature.com/articles/150192a0

>The relevant evidence is far more extensive for Homo sapiens than for any other species, but no agreement regarding its racial classification has yet been reached. Darwinism altered the course of the study, but it did not provide a solution.

>> No.12148883

>>12148877
I construct genetic clusters for mt. Sinai hospital. Race is real and we use it all the time.
I'm smarter than you and I actually know what I'm talking about. Stop pretending to be smarter than you actually are, and stop pretending to know more than you actually do.

>> No.12148887

>>12148877
good cope https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6ZfrXHgiVY cry some moar or go back.

>> No.12148985

>>12148855
Why does /sci/ skirt around the most pressing issue for the future of western citivilization?

>> No.12148991

>>12148862
Why would anyone browse b? Its all porno and gay porno

>> No.12149016

>>12148627
Why has there been non stop IQ bullshit /pol/ bait threads here for the past few months?

>> No.12149045

>>12149016
election year

>> No.12149169

>>12149016
So many people have been claiming racism as to why there's no black physicists or mathematicians. Here's your answer. If you're a black and think about chimping out about "muh underrepresentation" in STEM, remember OP's graph.

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>>12148627
not in Based China

>> No.12149212

This thread was moved to >>>/pol/278701667