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12104617 No.12104617 [Reply] [Original]

Literally nothing is more useful to humanity than producing virtual reality.

Why aren't there trillions being poured into it?

Who gives a damn about the real world if you can generate your own personal paradise.

>> No.12104620

Jews will just charge you to have that on top of everything else

>> No.12104625
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>> No.12104641

>>12104625
I don't see anything wrong with that at all, you're equally happy with a real adventure and a simulated one

>> No.12104648

Current virtual reality hardware is a gigantic meme.
The only feasible futuristic way to create virtual reality is to either create lasers that shine imagery unto your eyes, or neural implants that activate specific neurons to trick your brain into seeing fake imagery.
The first could be researched, but requires vast improvements of eye-tracking technology, while the second will take at least a few decades to develop.

>> No.12104855

>>12104641
Experiencing perpetual pleasure is slightly less comfortable than the imutable contentedness of not existing.

>> No.12104880

>>12104855
You only say that because with the current state of technology, it's not possible to experience perpetual pleasure (without side-effects).

Given the choice, it's very easy to give up this flawed world and jump into the joys of infinite happiness.

>> No.12104914

Bunch of degenerates.

>> No.12104927

>>12104617
>Who gives a damn about the real world if you can generate your own personal paradise.

That's the saddest and shallowest world view ever

>> No.12104930

>>12104880
>Infinite happiness

How old are you? Serious question.

>> No.12104964

I want virtual reality that's indistinguishable from a human sensory perspective because I'm a fucking nerd and I want to run around in fantasy world's and fight dragon's and find treasure and cast magic spells and shit.

>> No.12104996

>>12104964
Eventually you would get tired of it and crave reality.
There's a reason so many gamers are depressed. Virtual shit isn't a valid replacement.

>> No.12105003

>>12104996
What is the difference between reality and a perfect simulation?
There's none.

>> No.12105030

>>12104617
Virtual world doesn't give your warmth
Virtual world doesn't fool your stomach
Virtual world doesn't give you electricity required for virtual world

>> No.12105043

>>12105003
>Perfect simulation

Is this a theology board now?

>> No.12105045

>>12105030
Robots can do all of that.

>> No.12105086

>>12104625
Well, that's literally a NEET life, if there are millions of NEETs around the world and nobody gives a fuck what's wrong about a reality when everybody lives like a NEET, with the exceptional of unnecessary suffering? And if suffering is a part of the pleasure of living then just apply moderate doses of suffer in the simulation.

>> No.12105125

>>12104617
Low IQ people won't allow it to happen. In fact, any futuristic, high science scenario is doomed to never become reality because of low IQ, authoritarian people hindering the developments that will eventually lead to these scenarios.

>> No.12105130

>>12105125
Based Low-IQ people saving humanity from itself

>> No.12105200

>>12104927
There is no difference between the so called real world and virtual reality, you're just software with a bunch of sensors. Can't wait until we force you luddites to live your life in VR.

>> No.12105215

>>12105125
Killbots will turn tide and end the dictatorship of the masses for good

>> No.12105222

>>12104617
>Literally nothing is more useful to humanity than producing virtual reality.
wrong. vr is just a neat gimmick. the most useful thing we can develop rn is generalized ai that can interpret and solve word problems. just ask it to make your vr weeboo world and it'll figure it out.

>> No.12105228

>>12104648
>Laser imaging into eyes
Woah

>> No.12105230

>>12104625
Our organs are separated from the outside world by layers of skin, membrane and bone and our brain is encased in total darkness its whole existence, only really interacting with the outside world through fairly rudimentary (and unreliable) senses. Does it really matter if the box is metal rather than bone? Forming direct mental connections harnessing some kind of theoretical advanced tech would actually feel less isolating.

>> No.12105308

>>12105200
You need to stop playing so much videogames bro.

>> No.12105332

FUCK!!!

It is sad to see that people would WILLINGLY be encased in a metal box living their entire lives virtually.

This would be HELL for me.

>> No.12105340

>>12105043
It doesn't need to be perfect down to the wave function of each particle, just indistinguishable from the perspective of a human. That is not impossible or outside the laws of physics or computability.

>> No.12105344

>>12105215
killbots will be cheap to manufacture and the masses will have access to them as well and their hold will become absolute.

>> No.12105887

>>12105228
Look into the HoloLens if you're interested.
I've had the opportunity to work with it and was blown away by it.

>> No.12105897

>>12105332
You must have a good life

>> No.12105903

>>12105897
This, do these people think they're living in an anime?

>> No.12105907

>>12105897
>You must have a good life

Yes, I am happily married and have a son.

>> No.12105910

>>12105332
Based and sane. The only thing worse than being a slave is being a slave that loves their chains.

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>>12105910
>The only thing worse than being a slave is being a slave that loves their chains.

BRILLIANT!

>> No.12106384

>>12105230
All your organs are necessary to keep you alive its not a cage. Bone makes blood, which goes to the brain, its all one system.

In my opinion fake reality is lame. Your actions would be limited and have no impact. Not any different from watching tv or daydreaming. When you wake you be like "fuck i could've done the same shit irl and it would have been real instead of disappearing into nothing. What a waste of 5 billion years." Cuz you could have progressed instead of stagnating.

>> No.12106408

>>12105907
>Children
the ultimate and final cuck

>> No.12106445

And another thing, if you like science and discovery, that could be the end. If you are simulating the world, you can't conduct observations or do experiment beyond what is known. No more frontier. There are so many mysteries about the physical world, and they would remain unresolved. We wouldn't be able to go beyond the imagination.

Yall are just depressed and have few interests. So you're only interested in enhancing your existing gamer and weeb lifestyles, and that's all that matters.

Trillions would on be poured, if there were trillions to be made. Someone would have to stand to gain a lot of power. And at that point, you should be, very, very afraid.

>> No.12106453

>>12104617
bro, you need two eyes, i cant see out of my right one.

>> No.12106517

>>12106445
True. VR isn't the most important thing to humanity just because some lowlifes want it.

>> No.12106672

>>12106384
>you can't progress while living in VR
>you can't do science while living in VR
are you from the 1850ies? VR means you can observe whatever you want with any sensor and postprocessing you want, it's just a better interface to reality.
>>12106445

>> No.12106770

>>12104625
This kind of stuff gets me rock hard and I have zero clue why or how to find more. I've gotten off to this specific image twice

>> No.12106798

>>12106770
yo nigga get some help

>> No.12106995

>>12104641
No it wouldn't
https://youtu.be/Su1Rdw3SRHY
4min twilight zone edited episode. I dare ye to argue

>> No.12107050

>>12104641
>>12105086
>>12105230
2 problems I see with this-
Either you know it's all fake when you sign up, and that underlying understanding will ruin every action as your realize how futile, meaningless and empty everything you do is. Even if they can erase your memory, that means they'll have to create a whole world for you from scratch with minimal user input, and those scenarios will eventually repeat. Characters would repeat.
What a fucking catastrophe someone's world would be if they joined at the age of 1. Can't even speak, read, write, or socialize. They wouldn't fit in with the simulation very well.

Secondly, what of the social interactions? You're just gonna ignore the most fundamental part of the human experience and make us hang out with gay AI algorithms? Or keep us in contact with family and friends that eventually leads to the drama we were escaping?
I don't think we can fix the pain of missing someone by injecting more dopamine.

Thirdly, won't we eventually just burn out our dopamine receptors? Especially if we try fixing any pain by just flooding more dopamine in?

Fourthly, as soon as you enter this machine, you stop growing. There's no lessons learned if everything works out all the time, especially if you break physics doing it. And if you're cut off from other minds, than you'll never have any more input than what you came up with. Objectively whatever future you have in here will be worse than the future we had on the outside working together.


>>12106770
wtf anon, kek

>> No.12107308

>>12106672
Premise of OP
>Who gives a damn about the real world
However if you had people in vr conducting experiments irl the same way NASA scientists use the mars rover you could advance the science enterprise. There would be limitations though. In the same way that drones and robots helped volcanologists, but did not replace them visiting sites.
Pretty sure there are many cases where it would just be easier to step out of vr and get the job done. Vr seems more like a useful tool than a replacement for reality.

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You are partially correct op, it will be a major part of future reality (sans MAD, total social collapse, enslavement, etc.)

People seeking immortality will eventually realize it will be way easier to simply preserve the only part of the human that matters: the brain. After this, flesh interfaces and wetware systems (neuralink being gen1) will become common. Many will simply choose to hook their thinky bits into a vast server (likely when their bodies start to break down anyway) a bit like >>12104625 except less meat. These people will basically live inside the internet. Realms of pure pleasure will be the evolution of the coomer, but not everybody will choose to exist this way forever.

Many will choose to inhabit Android or drone bodies physically or control them wirelessly from their server room and live in the physical reality. Possibly even explore the stars (much easier to keep one organ alive than an entire body).

Automated machines and drones will pretty much take care of everything else.

>> No.12107376

>>12107354
>Lag irl in the future
Fuck

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>>12104617
Youll get a better chance of plugging me with a bullet hole shekelstein. Id rather live as a 5,2 indian janitor with a balding head than be slaying on a computer simulation.

TRY ME GOLDSTEIN AND MEET MISTER 12

>> No.12108170

>>12104930
27

>> No.12108218

>>12105125
If VR could replicate reality perfectly, then low IQ people are the ones who will be the most susceptible to this and that's great because they'd remove themselves from reality voluntarily. Instead of drug addicts and criminals roaming the streets you'd have VR addicts who won't bother anyone IRL and they'll be unlikely to reproduce too because they'd have sex in VR meaning it's a soft form of eugenics too.

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>All these people ITT claiming that VR's just a meme and that the developmental potential is either completely out of reach or just outright fiction

You people are aware that handheld microcomputers were literally nonexistent in both concept and reality only several decades ago correct?

>> No.12110162

This is literally the argument AGAINST hedonism
The west is beyond saving at this point

>> No.12110163

>>12104617
The learning potential through VR is ridiculous.

>> No.12110575

>>12104617
I would rather sit in front of CRT screen, than having this headcrab over my head.

You can have experience, it's fake as life is, whatever, but... Just sitting outside and watching grass grow is more pleasurable experience than having light source so close to retina.

>> No.12111280
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The future is now.

https://youtu.be/4APerjQYORk

>> No.12111300

>Literally nothing is more useful to humanity than producing virtual reality.
It is, by definition, useless.

>> No.12111304

>>12106384
>Your actions would be limited and have no impact.
Your actions have no impact now too.

>> No.12111305

ITT: So much anger and not a single good argument against VR.

>> No.12111309

Of course VR is slavery, but current life is slavery too. That's not an argument in favour of VR by the way.

>> No.12111310

>>12104617
>Who gives a damn about the real world if you can generate your own personal paradise.
Which can be deleted by the admin with one button.

>> No.12111312

>>12111305
A complete a full lack of control of your life and no freedom at all. Of course now they are minuscule too, but minuscule is still better than zero.

>> No.12111346

>>12107050
I don't like the VR idea at all, but that's quite a pile of nonsense.

>> No.12111364

>>12111310
>su root