pseudo intellectuals

[Anonymous No.12027607]

Why is it that, in an age where we are the most educated and knowledge is available, people foster pseudo-science like anti-vaccine information, flat-earth theories, race superiority, etc?

[Anonymous No.12027609]

because it has become way easier to spread misinformation, and people can always choose to ignore real information no matter how easy it is.
basically people now seek out information to fit their narrative, and it's guaranteed that that information will exist in some sort of community.

[Anonymous No.12027612]

>>12027609
How do we combat this?

[Anonymous No.12027619]

>>12027607
Given that it’s the easiest point in human history to access knowledge, it stands to reason that people who would previously be too dumb to learn anything are now capable of gaining just enough information to be wrong.

[Anonymous No.12027621]

>>12027612
just ignore them. we're currently giving way too much attention to these fringe schizos which is the best way to keep them afloat. who cares if they're .01% of the population? their communities won't grow without the widespread coverage (documentaries, news articles, publicized conventions) that they currently receive
trying to censor them with stuff like "Fake news detectors" on facebook will just make them mad and create a whole new league of anti-censorship movements.

[Anonymous No.12027640]

>>12027612
You can't.
This is the result of universal literacy and the democratization of writing.
In the past, only highly educated men were able to spread ideas and words to others.
Now every single moron with an internet connection can spew endless garbage to their heart's content.

[Anonymous No.12027652]

>>12027607
>race superiority

Just cause you don't like the topic, does not make it false. Some races are superior to order when judge on their ability to perform as a specific task or goal.

[Anonymous No.12027659]

>>12027607
why are people infatuated with intellectuals ? Why is intellectualism hyped so much?

[Anonymous No.12027661]

>>12027607
Because people like having fun discussing different things.

[Anonymous No.12027665]

People in this age also think it's possible to get surgery and pretend REALLY hard that they are the opposite gender from what they actually are. We are a broken society.

[Anonymous No.12027675]

>>12027607
Everything listed appeals to biases and aren't uniform in belief. Antivax is prevalent with mothers, and the reasons for their belief aren't really about the science and more about biased decision making that leads them away from vaccination. Some people are overly hesitant about vaccines, and may delay vaccinations but still get them while on the other end of the spectrum is the loud minority pushing the unscientific garbage. And due to the backfire effect, overwhelming people with contrary evidence doesn't work and makes unscientific belief stronger. It's a failure of scientific communication, an unprecedented platform for bullshit, and is exacerbated by declining trust in institutions.
>>12027612
People should be introduced to formal logic and shown examples of biased decision making. If people can recognize a bad argument when it's being made and why it's a bad argument, that can help some. One method I like is to not necessarily debate and change someones mind, but instead "steer" a conversation in a way that highlights the shortcomings of a belief and show a better approach while assuming there's an audience that falls in other parts of a belief spectrum and hopefully convince the crowd if a person can't be reached. It's always worth remembering that people lurk and there's way more of them in the crowd than there are people debating a matter. It can be leveraged very effectively by demagogues, so it's worth re-appropriating for more factual claims.

[Anonymous No.12027696]

>>12027607
>Black people scoring low on IQ test
>Black people are unsuccessful in life
>Black people have smaller skull size
>Black countries are a shithole
So many evidence that points towards a conclusion yet nobody dares to say it

[Anonymous No.12027699]

>>12027696
Define Black

[Anonymous No.12027702]

>>12027696
>>12027675
>>12027652
why'd you have to include the race superiority thing OP? you've attracted /pol/

[Anonymous No.12029376]

>>12027607
You would call such people pseudo intelectuals? I would perhaps call that somebody who is perhaps well educated, but he never became more than the sum of his knowledge. As such his opinions will likely never stray much from the most mainstream, well sourced, "science says" facts.

[Anonymous No.12029382]

>>12027607
Feeling smart feels good
Doing work feels bad

[Anonymous No.12029383]

>>12027612
Cull the journalists

[Anonymous No.12029390]

>>12027665
Opposite sex
Only nouns have gender

[Anonymous No.12029524]

>>12027696

Why is that tho, why are people so scared to say the truth out loud?
Are we afraid of genocide being given fuel?

[Anonymous No.12029527]

>>12027607
>Why is it that, in an age where we are the most educated and knowledge is available
Because the technology that allows for the sharing of information also results in a lot of dumb shit being shared.

[Anonymous No.12029662]

>>12027612
Stop thinking you know everything. Most of these ideas have a grain of truth. Claim the truth and drop the garbage.

>Flat earthers
These are a product of the fact most people know 0 science AND become highly suspiscious of authority. Show them where the authority is wrong (NASA is not some perfect institution, neither is USG) and show them where they are right. The latter part of this is widely available, public criticism of the institutions not so much.

>anti-vaccine
Again, people have died from vaccines, acknowledge the fact. But these sort of risks are not uncommon in context ie vaccine deaths will be far lower than deaths by car.

It is not actually clear what proportion of the variance of common diseases were eliminated by vaccines as opposed to sanitation. Vaccines really come into their own when stopping an epidemic or a pandemic. Lack of exercise is going to be much less healthy than taking a vaccine, again its about context. Some chemicals in vaccines are weird, but the human body is pretty robust with organic molecules.

>race superiority
Again. The truth here is that evolution didn't stop at the neck and there are significant differences in cognitive and physical abilities between populations of different ethnogenesis.

The problem for the supremecists is that most whites are not that exceptional. It is North western Europeans that made the modern world (England, France, Germany), not poland, italy, spain, sweden...
People are beginning to notice sub-saharan africans are not becoming first rate scientists, engineers, artists. Pretending it will magically happen if more money is funneled their way will just make people move to the 'supremacist' side.

[Anonymous No.12029768]

Because it's fun and there is a market for stupidity.
Not everything needs to be autistic.

[Anonymous No.12029775]

>>12027607
>race superiority
James Watson is a pseudo-scientist now? Let's see your Nobel for discovering DNA, kid.

[Anonymous No.12029945]

>>12027609
>>12027612

[Anonymous No.12029988]

>>12029524
the state is terrified of its citizen-comrades learning that communism doesn't work

[Anonymous No.12029990]

Because it's harder to censor educated people.

[Anonymous No.12030372]

I'm glad I found this thread because I have a question.
I remember seeing a picture describing [Surname]'s paradox. I don't remember the details but it probably said that we're living in a society built on technology that majority doesn't understand. Something like that.
Has anybody ever heard of it that remember that guy's name?

[Anonymous No.12030383]

>>12030372
*Has anybody ever heard of it and remember that guy's name?
Sorry, it's 12AM and I'm sleepy.

[Anonymous No.12030416]

If vaccines work, why care if someone else chooses not to get vaccinated?

Maybe some of sheepeople what to stay organic and free range.

[Anonymous No.12030421]

>>12027702
>why'd you have to include the race superiority thing OP?
because that was his goal for the post. To say racial theories are akin to flateather theories

[Anonymous No.12030443]

>>12027607
Nice try Uncle Moshi. Im not falling for it.

[Anonymous No.12030465]

>>12027607
>anti-vaccine information
given that antivax is defined as even some apprehension to vaccines you'd have to be a retard not to be antivax. that's not to say that those hardcore antivax karens who won't vax their kids with mmr because they think it'll give them autism aren't retarded but anyone with even the slightest intellectual inclination should be skeptical of medication somewhat. going "hurr durr smart doctors said it works" is an appeal to authority."

[Anonymous No.12031157]

>>12027702
how is >>12027675 supposed to be /pol/

[Anonymous No.12031351]

>>12029390
You're right, my mistake fren.

[Anonymous No.12031358]

>>12027607
Dunno, how come some people still insist that 0.999... = 1 ?

[Anonymous No.12031646]

>>12027607
It's a pushback against increasing authoritarianism along with people choosing the path of least resistance

for example i support vaccines but do not support forced medical care of any kind

i support the idea a man can believe what he wants but when he starts telling me in absolute terms it is the truth and i must believe too or die i must stand my ground

basically we are seeing what happens when you press society from every angle, pressure mediation takes effect

another problem you are possibly unaware of is the fear you create in a populace when you demand they conform to your views, claim You are on the right side of history and tell them if they are not with you they are against you

fear takes over and you have effectively destroyed a major part of the trust people once had for the authorities which keep society in check and repelled them so severely they are willing to support anything else that isn't You

so instead of focusing on telling others how to live, what is right and what is wrong, merely present the information, focus on your own life and lead by example instead of trying to indirectly or directly control the lives of others

don't bother responding to this. goodbye sci

[Anonymous No.12031661]

>>12027652
There are 4 errors in your 2 sentences.

[Anonymous No.12031670]

>>12029775
>He won a Nobel prize, so he's an expert in all fields.

[Anonymous No.12031810]

>>12027612
That is a personal choice, unfortunate as that sounds. A lie makes its word heard around the world by the time the truth can put on its pants. If you believe something to be misinforming, it's up to you to validate information.

[Anonymous No.12031855]

>>12031358
im pretty sure this shit is passed by teachers trying to look cool in school. whenever i see this shit i cringe.
it doesnt equal 1 retards if it would then every single number would equal to one yet i ate two eggs today at different times, you wanna tell me time isnt a concept as well?

[Anonymous No.12031872]

Because living in modern society demands of people that they have an opinion on every subject they encounter, even if they know nothing at all about it. And some people just don't have the education to distinguish fact from fiction combined with a tendency to dislike authority figures. With the internet, all these latent opinions have been laid bare for everyone to see.

[Anonymous No.12031958]

>>12027607
1) village idiots can now find each other
2) cynical operators actively use it:
https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/report_volume5.pdf

[Anonymous No.12031987]

Fuck you OP youre a useful idiot or an ignorant asshole.

flat earth is a psy op
race bait helps divide the smart among us
Vaccine have been proven to be harmful to certain humans.

[Anonymous No.12032005]

[Anonymous No.12032169]

>>12027607
you answered your own question

[Anonymous No.12032557]

>>12031661
This isn’t /lit/

[Anonymous No.12032861]

>>12031987
>Not believing in SOME obvious bullshit makes me smart, and makes the obvious bullshit I DO believe in true!
Stop believing in obviously retarded garbage.

[Anonymous No.12032931]

>>12027607
because nobody understands anything any more. it's too complicated for normal people.
in the old days people could repair their own cars, phones were largely mechanical devices, fixing televisions was an actual job
now most people wouldn't have a clue how to fix anything beyond maybe changing an entire circuit board at a push
technology has outstripped people's ability to understand it. that causes people to seek other explanations.

[Anonymous No.12033027]

>>12027607
I see what you did there OP, well played.

[Anonymous No.12033064]

Are you saying there's no biological differences between human sub-species( races )? Flat-earth theory is obviously false, but it's good they question the science. Perhaps some of them will learn along the way. It's an established scientific fact that are physical differences between races (uhh... that's what skin colour is - different evolutionary line), and it isn't limited to skin, but also applies to muscle types, body types and so on. An average nigger is stronger than an average asian, and is also taller.
Why do you think the same wouldn't apply to the way their brain works? We are governed 100% by genes first. Who says their brains didn't evolve to make them more aggressive, or score less on IQ tests?

Even anti-vaccine movement isn't that stupid. There ARE adverse effect to a small % of the population. Some vaccines more than others, certain governments even paid reimbursements to some people (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandemrix).). Anti-vaccine movement is mostly stupid, for rather obvious reasons, but even they have some merit. Adverse effects in drugs or vaccines is a thing, you know?

Science had things wrong all the time. No matter how back in history you go, and how well people at the time time thought they had it all, there was ALWAYS something wrong. Only fools and tools do not question mainstream scientific beliefs. Especially in this rotten corporate world, where politics and corporate interests constantly encroach on science.

Honestly, anti-vaxxers are more intelligent than you, quite frankly. Sheep.

[Anonymous No.12033093]

>>12030465
If vaccines weren't safe and effective, why would the government be willing to accept all liability?

[Anonymous No.12033100]

>>12027607
We are in an age where the most educated knowledge is available, that's true. But we are also in an age of incredibly retarded capitalism and this negates the first proposition.

[Anonymous No.12033110]

>>12029662
>people have died from vaccines
This is not an anti-vaxx forum. Take your science denial elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.12033139]

>>12033100
almost every "educator" is an anti-capitalist though

[SAGED No.12033157]

>>12033093
They dont LMAO.
Vaccine cases go to a special court, its very hard to sue for vaccine induced injury even if they would pump it full with acid i.e tomorrow.

All vaccines have Aluminum in them which is directly correlated in the brain with Autism and Alzheimer. And no real way to remove Aluminium besides sicilic acid but if your water is fluoridated. Mixing Sicilic acid with fluoride in the stomach becomes hydrofluoric Acid.

Matter of fact normal water contains sicilic solution also so enjoy drinking hydrofluoric acid goy haha.


PS: vaccines are ran through rat brains in production and able to pickup novel retrovirusses

With love

((redacted))

[Anonymous No.12033180]

>>12033157
>All vaccines have Aluminum in them
you eat 10 times more aluminium every day in your food than is contained in a one-per-lifetime vaccine

[SAGED No.12033194]

>>12033180
Yes but vaccines have ingredients that are able to weaken or cross blood brain barrier.

[Anonymous No.12033204]

>>12033194
Such as?

[Anonymous No.12033214]

>>12033194
this by itself is not especially significant. water can cross the blood-brain barrier. stop being an idiot.

[SAGED No.12033226]

>>12033204
>Concerns about the use of aluminum adjuvants have emerged following (i) recognition of their role at the origin of the so-called macrophagic myofasciitis (MMF) lesion in 2001 (3, 4), which revealed fundamental misconception of their adjuvant effect and pointed out their unexpectedly long-lasting biopersistence (4); and (ii) demonstration of their apparent capacity to migrate in lymphoid organs and then disseminate throughout the body within monocyte-lineage cells and progressively accumulate in the brain (5).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4318414/

[Anonymous No.12033288]

>>12031987
>flat earth is a psy op
It's amazing how many people don't get that it's not a legit theory. There's maybe a handful of literal schizos who rant about it, but it's just there to create guilt by association to anything else.

[SAGED No.12033377]

Gotta love shills and cargo cult "science" dickriders

[Anonymous No.12033386]

>>12033110
People do rarely die from allergic reactions to vaccines. Many lifesaving medicines have minor risks. His/her statement was not wrong at all.