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We should be able to do it, and we need to since humanity and all other life on the planet is completely doomed with a varying climate.

Can we terraform Earth somehow so that the climate becomes static? Is building an ringworld with an articially controlled enviornment the only solution? It should be possible to have a static climate in one, right? I guess we could also colonize the moon, it's a pretty static environment, but the moon is boring.

>> No.11963563

>>11963545
>muh static climate
Eliminate the ocean, you get a mars-like earth with no climate and no life. Or you get a venus-like earth with raging clouds which are just evaporated water masses from the ocean and melting temperatures /crushing atmosphere on the ground but unsurprisingly still no life. You can't have your cake and eat it anon.

>> No.11963591

>>11963545
>static climate
STFU
Humans lived through THE ice age, and the warming period after. We lived through the little ice age, we can take this warming period too.

>> No.11963626
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>>11963591
>Humans lived through THE ice age, and the warming period after.
We are currently in an ice age and always have been. How exactly does living in the climate your species evolved in show anything?

Perhaps you mean glacial period followed by interglacial warming. Unfortunately, the fastest rate of temperature change during that time was an order of magnitude slower than current global warming.

>We lived through the little ice age, we can take this warming period too.
Is this a joke? The little ice age was nothing. Pic related.

>> No.11963629

>>11963545
>since humanity and all other life on the planet is completely doomed with a varying climate
muh fear
3% not 100%

>> No.11963731

>>11963629
>3% not 100%
?

>> No.11963901

>>11963626
ah micheal mann's hockey stick graph, the essence of scientific fraud

>> No.11963923

>>11963901
>ah micheal mann's hockey stick graph
The data is from PAGES2k, not Michael Mann.

>the essence of scientific fraud
How so?

>> No.11964245

>>11963731
it's not even remotely lethal for humanity

>> No.11964497
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>>11963545
You don't. Romans grew wine grapes in Britain and the port city of Ostia is now 25km from the coast. Climate change is a normal phenomenon. For the majority of geological history Earth did not have ice caps. See pic.
>but m-m-muh polar bears
fuck 'em. That's how evolution works. You adapt or you die. Species extinction is a normal thing. Around 95% of species that ever existed on Earth no longer do.
>b-b-but muh runaway greenhouse effect
Several papers show that the Venus scenario is impossible on Earth.
https://arxiv.org/vc/arxiv/papers/1306/1306.5730v2.pdf

>> No.11964603

>>11963626
>>11964497
take your schizo ramblings to >>>/pol/ or >>>/x/ you fucking KOOK

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>>11964603
>give arguments based on scientific and factual evidence
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YOU SCHIZO TAKE YOUR MEDS
you can literally look up anything I said in my post >>11964497. Can you at least try and provide a proper rebuttal?

>> No.11964636

>>11964497
>Climate change is a normal phenomenon.
No one's argued otherwise, the argument has been that the rate of current change is extraordinarily fast compared to natural change that occurred previously.

>> No.11964658

>>11964626
>hurr durr look im a frogposting drooling retard who thinks his climate denialism is scientific

>> No.11964667

>>11964636
Couldn't give a shit. It's fast. And? Earth might have a man-made extinction event. But there were plenty of extinction events previously. Life thrived after each one.

>> No.11964677

>>11964658
I'm not denying climate change, you retard.

>> No.11967179

>>11963923
what mann did was use a single source of tree ring proxy data then slap on instrumentation records to the end of it. Not only that, he never disclosed all of his data. He basically tried to sue a man named Tim Ball for "defimation", ball asked for his data in court to prove his claims, Mann never offered up over for something like 8 years and lost the case.

>> No.11967370

>>11964667
So you don't mind if I punch you in the face because you'll survive right?

>> No.11967391

>>11967179
>what mann did was use a single source of tree ring proxy data
Wrong.

>then slap on instrumentation records to the end of it.
Wrong.

>Not only that, he never disclosed all of his data.
Wrong.

>He basically tried to sue a man named Tim Ball for "defimation", ball asked for his data in court to prove his claims, Mann never offered up over for something like 8 years and lost the case.
Wrong.

Why should anyone take you seriously if you can't even get basic things correct?

>> No.11967495

>>11967391
except everything I said was correct.

>> No.11967816

>>11967370
yeah, I'll just punch you back, you sissy.

>> No.11967827

>>11964603
How do I upvote this post?

>> No.11967831

>>11967827
>>>reddit

>> No.11967913

>>11967816
You can't, I didn't do anything to you since you survived.

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>>11967913
God, the actual levels of retardation here...

>> No.11967963

>>11967495
No it was all wrong. Mann used multiple tree ring data sets, as well as lake sediment, ice core, and coral proxies.

All of his data was and still is publicly available: http://www.meteo.psu.edu/holocene/public_html/shared/research/MANNETAL98/

The Tim Ball suit was dismissed because Mann did not move the case forward, not because Mann failed to produce discovery, which is idiotic on its face since his data is publicly available.