Have you practiced hate-science today?

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Anonymous Mon Jul 27 20:27:54 2020 No.11944624 [DELETED]

Have you practiced hate-science today?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 20:28:38 2020 No.11944626 >Economics >Sociology >Political "Science" Not Science and not Math. You've been given your one and only warning.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 20:29:47 2020 No.11944629 And to think there will be faggots who agree with this retarded reasoning ITT.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 20:34:38 2020 No.11944643 >>11944624 What a joke.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 20:51:14 2020 No.11944672 >>11944629 umm sweaty please don't say f****** its offensive

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 20:52:38 2020 No.11944673
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>Hundreds petition to retract paper they call “unscholarly, overtly racist” and full of “racially violent narratives”
>Hundreds of academics, anti-poverty advocates and others have signed petitions demanding the journal Society retract a new commentary which argues, in essence, that poor Black and Hispanic people in the United States are poor because they haven’t figured out how to be more white.
>The essay, by Lawrence Mead, a public policy researcher at New York University, argues that racism and a lack of good jobs do not explain why America, the world’s richest country, continues to have a problem with poverty. “More plausible,” Mead states, are differences in “culture”
https://retractionwatch.com/2020/07/27/hundreds-petition-to-retract-paper-they-call-unscholarly-overtly-racist-and-full-of-racially-violent-narratives/
https://archive.is/P5YGT
Fag who originally complained:
https://twitter.com/BazziNYU/status/1286740934466719744
https://archive.is/MbBPE

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 20:52:56 2020 No.11944675 >>11944626 >political science >not a science Literally has science in the name

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 20:54:53 2020 No.11944681 File: 108 KB, 680x510, EZ7qvK8UYAAj9FB.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11944624 #DecolonizeSTEM

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 20:57:35 2020 No.11944689 We used to be racist toward the Irish. We used to be racist toward the Italians. It takes time but integration is definitely possible.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:00:50 2020 No.11944696 >>11944689 We also used to discriminate against chimpanzees but they'll be wearing suits and reading Marx or Locke at some point in the future.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:03:24 2020 No.11944700 >>11944696 they're reading marx today.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:17:51 2020 No.11944733 >>11944673 Reality is racist.

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:22:44 2020 No.11944746
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>>11944689
>Ethnicity is German and Irish-Italian
>Basically everything that people hated

>>11944733
This. There's a reason why they keep claiming that the latest AI's that they build are "failures" because they come out racist or anti-semitic. It's a truly sad state of affairs when the world of science must suffer greatly so it can pander and appeal to a demographic of people that largely can't even begin to comprehend it. There needs to be a revolt in current academia. Stop putting peoples feelings over facts.

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:26:56 2020 No.11944755

>>11944689
It was never racism. Both groups were always de facto white, but the only reason they were discriminated is that catholicism was seen as a threat of nepotism, the majority of the country being protestant, and in the case of Irish people, they mostly were sheep herding yokels. The black-white divide in America is nothing like how we discriminated against Italians/Irish.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:29:35 2020 No.11944762 >>11944675 >Thinks a name is necessarily indicative of content Well you certainly think like a political "scientist" at least

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:30:37 2020 No.11944766 >>11944755 Actually irrelevant. The outcomes and solutions are still the same

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:35:07 2020 No.11944782

>>11944766
Eh, I mean, people's inherent racial bias towards their own is pretty powerful. Truth is, we wouldn't need to worry about this if blacks had even the slightest shred of exceptionalism, any whatsoever. I'm sure you'll pont to black inventors or rap or some shit, truth is that's literally nothing. Where's the black Elon musk? You've had 20+ years to produce a black mathematician of literally ANY renown, ANY theorem that can be attributed to them whatsoever. Now we're freaking out and trying to go 1984 because of you people, I recommend the black community just shut up for a while.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:43:21 2020 No.11944801 >>11944681 this is probably the 50th time you’ve posted this exact same shit. kys shill

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:43:46 2020 No.11944804 >>11944801 >taking the bait this hard

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 21:49:46 2020 No.11944810 >>11944689 Genes are real, anon.

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 22:27:46 2020 No.11944882

>>11944782
Even so, integration will still happen. Be it through long term race-mixing, shifting culture, advancing globalism. You may not like it but it's happening. It's better to just be at peace with the tide of things rather than angry, since it is happening either way. In a thousand years humanity will probably not even have the races of our current age as we understand them. In ten thousand years we won't be the same species anymore as we are now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 22:32:28 2020 No.11944891 >>11944624 racial/ethnic diversity isnt a good or bad thing, there are so many other factors can we not just admit that

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 22:39:54 2020 No.11944905 >>11944755 Why did the Nazis want to genocide the racially inferior Slavs despite them both being white?

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 22:41:51 2020 No.11944912
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>>11944891
What a low-IQ.

Maybe reductionists trying to critique theories of how the world works down to "thing bad" aren't representative of the ideas being presented, you brainlet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 22:44:19 2020 No.11944917 >>11944912 99% of racial issues are caused by people obsessed with race.

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 22:46:24 2020 No.11944921

>>11944882
Depends. Jobs are becoming more and more intellectually intensive to perform. Manufacturing jobs are dying off, engineering, science, math ect. jobs going up, fast food wages reducing and becoming less and less livable, ect. Eventually there will be a mass die off/riot or something else that happens as humanity goes through this demographic transition, i.e. selection will begin to favor the more intelligent. If humanity would form one coherent race, it would be a majority of the most genetically intelligent races from the current times. Likely some mix of European, Asian, Jew, Indian, ect. I don't care about race mixing, but more about the lower iq demographics, environmentally driven or otherwise, pretending like like they're better than they are, and like they somehow deserve to integrate at this moment.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 22:47:50 2020 No.11944924 >>11944912 Yeah man, there's NEVER been any problems created by two opposing groups of different ideologies. Never. Never not once. Ever. Ever ever ever.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 22:48:33 2020 No.11944927 >>11944905 The nazis were never known for being a particularly rational or level headed group of people.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 22:50:14 2020 No.11944930 >>11944917 >obsessed You're embarrassingly anti-scientific. You don't get to just reject objective and critical analysis when it comes to things you don't like.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 22:50:16 2020 No.11944931 >>11944912 so that article seems to be talking about issues with culture, not just racial diversity. also known as "other factors". blacks/hispanics can exist without those particular cultures you know

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 22:51:11 2020 No.11944934 >>11944930 >>You don't get to just reject objective and critical analysis when it comes to things you don't like. You mean like what you're doing right now?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 22:53:00 2020 No.11944943 >>11944689 >It takes time but integration is definitely possible. maybe 100,000 years of evolution but yeah, you're right

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 22:53:54 2020 No.11944945 >>11944927 They saw them as a different race. Yes, racism (and race as a concept) is irrational and dumb, thank you.

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 22:55:55 2020 No.11944949
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>>11944945
Racism is a part of life. It will never go away, no matter how hard you try to indoctrinate people. In fact, people with Left-leaning ideologies are more prone to notice race than people without.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:03:44 2020 No.11944971 >>11944949 You mean tribalism. Tribalism is human nature. Race was created in the 1600s to commit atrocities against far-away peoples.

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:06:46 2020 No.11944981

>>11944949
This image is probably retarded.

>>11944971
You sound like someone trying to explain how colors don't actually exist because it's just animal's ways to perceive parts of the electromagnetic spectrum.

Then you go on to say that section of the electromagnetic spectrum is invalid because people came to premature understandings about color in history.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:07:01 2020 No.11944984 >>11944971 Race was created and has persisted revolutions and many scientific discoveries. We now know the common person's conception of "race" is approximately in line with human geographic distributions. It's not going away.

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:08:15 2020 No.11944989

>>11944971
That's fine and all as long as you realize that a tribe that makes up 13% of the US population causes 50% of the violent crime while another tribe that makes about between 1% and 2% of the population has a pathological need to destroy the structure of the society that hosts them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:10:53 2020 No.11944996 >>11944981 Colors exist, but the ones you are familiar with are not the "true" way to categorize them. Because there is no true way. Categorizing them at all is for your convenience and nothing more.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:12:15 2020 No.11945001 >>11944989 >le 13/50 >le joos Like clockwork

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:14:12 2020 No.11945005 >>11945001 He's not wrong though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:15:57 2020 No.11945007 File: 341 KB, 447x447, dicks.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11944996 fucking incredible.

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:17:33 2020 No.11945013

>>11945005
>hate jews
>campaign against Obama who tried to stop Israeli illegal settlements in Palestine
>shill for Trump who is literally in AIPAC's pockets, recognized Jerusalem as Israel's capital and defunded UNESCO because there were Palestinians in it
/pol/tard logic

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:21:01 2020 No.11945021

>>11945013
Except Obama bailed out the banks after allowing loans to be made by people who could never pay them back, caused a recession along with crashing the housing market, went to war for opium, caused racial tensions to skyrocket, made our military weaker by lowering standards, and created the refugee crisis other countries are now forced to deal with.
Also, I never ever stated that I supposedly 'shill' for Trump, you generalizing sycophant.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:21:44 2020 No.11945023 >>11945001 Because they're facts, fuckface

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:22:19 2020 No.11945027 >>11945007 Truly

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:23:50 2020 No.11945032 >>11945021 >caused racial tensions to skyrocket Lol. Just his existence, yeah I guess. People lost their fucking minds over a black president. Dug hard into the seething hatred after that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:24:55 2020 No.11945035 >>11945023 >>11945005 Please redpill me on the JQ. Scientifically of course. I'm sure you have proper paperwork courtesy of /pol/.

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:26:08 2020 No.11945040
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>>11945021
>Except Obama bailed out the banks after allowing loans to be made by people who could never pay them back
That was Bush, zoomer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Economic_Stabilization_Act_of_2008

>caused a recession along with crashing the housing market
Again Bush, see pic

>went to war for opium
Bush again, he invaded Afghanistan

>caused racial tensions to skyrocket
Have you missed the fact that half of America is burning in race riots right now? Let me guess, Obama caused that too.

>made our military weaker by lowering standards
Source?

>created the refugee crisis other countries are now forced to deal with.
Obama didn't cause the Arab Spring, skyrocketing food prices in 2008 did.

>Also, I never ever stated that I supposedly 'shill' for Trump, you generalizing sycophant.
Most of /pol/ shilled for Trump to get elected in 2016, I was there.

You are extremely misinformed, which doesn't surprise me.

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:26:09 2020 No.11945041

>>11944996
We delegate colors the way they are simply because it's useful. It's well documented across culture that color is not arbitrary and independent cultures have generally the same conception of colors as Europeans. Just because a categorization is arbitrary, it doesn't make it less useful or meaningful, or without real , immutable, implications

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:35:16 2020 No.11945066
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>>11945032
BLM started under Obama's presidency, which the media took as a means of deflecting attention off of Occupy Wall Street. Obama also openly criticized police officers after a black male's death, which sewed discord.

>>11945040
Face it. Obama and the Democrats were in office for 8 years and got absolutely nothing accomplished, and left a gigantic mess for Trump to clean up, which people now pin the blame on him for.
>>Again Bush
Bush went to war for oil and had our military fight against people that our CIA supplied. Obama started the Iraq War, which led to Syria being turned into a wasteland, and openly bombed hospitals, which could be considered a war crime.
>>caused racial tensions to skyrocket
As I said, BLM happened under Obama's presidency, and his section 8 housing laws is what caused whites to flee from their cushy neighborhoods, which are now ghettos.
>>Source?
Pic related.
>>Obama didn't cause the Arab Spring, skyrocketing food prices in 2008 did.
Turning Syria into a pile of rubble did a hell of a lot to do that, too.

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:38:12 2020 No.11945078

>>11944782

Not that anon but why do you need to be spoon fed answers when you can just use google? Seriously the people beneath aren't even obscure either. So I don't know why the other anon couldn't answer your questions properly.

>Where's the black Elon musk?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonnie_Johnson_(inventor)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Smith_(investor)

>You've had 20+ years to produce a black mathematician of literally ANY renown, ANY theorem that can be attributed to them whatsoever.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Blackwell

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rao%E2%80%93Blackwell_theorem

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvester_James_Gates

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adinkra_symbols_(physics)

https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/adinkra

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:38:37 2020 No.11945082 >>11945066 Why does BLM exacerbate racial tensions?

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:43:28 2020 No.11945099
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>>11945082
Because BLM says absolutely nothing about the constant black-on-black violence in black neighborhoods, doesn't bother to protest outside of abortion clinics located in black neighborhoods, and is extremely selective about what black lives actually matter. They seem to only start up again any time that a white person kills a black person, or anyone that the media can convince people is white, like George Zimmerman. There are plenty of black people that call BLM out for the reasons I listed above, and it's an organization that is literally ran by a domestic terrorist. It could very well be considered a part of Antifa now.

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:44:08 2020 No.11945104

>>11945066
>Face it. Obama and the Democrats were in office for 8 years and got absolutely nothing accomplished, and left a gigantic mess for Trump to clean up, which people now pin the blame on him for.
Obama stopped the recession and initiated the economic recovery which Trump likes to take credit for

>Obama started the Iraq War
What the fuck, stop.
Obama wasn't president in 2003.

>which led to Syria being turned into a wasteland, and openly bombed hospitals, which could be considered a war crime.
Syrian civil war started a full decade after the Iraq War. And the US had a very small role in that clusterfuck, mostly bombing ISIS and supplying weapons to the democratic opposition, which had to be stopped because Republicans made a big ruckus about it (even though it was the morally right thing to do), while Russia and Iran were arming Assad. Now the Kurds, US allies which are running a democracy, have control over half of the country, they have been totally abandoned by Trump to get crushed by Russia-backed Assad and Turkey (who hates Kurds and took advantage to invade Syria, adding to the clusterfuck).

>As I said, BLM happened under Obama's presidency
He didn't start it.

>Pic related.
A /pol/ infographic is not a source, try again.

>Turning Syria into a pile of rubble did a hell of a lot to do that, too.
Yeah, much better to let it fall to ISIS hands; I bet the muslim birther conspiracy theorists would have loved that.

Just stop, you are so misinformed it's cringe.
Obama starting the Iraq War.... lmao... this is rich. No wonder the world is going to shit when retards like you can vote.

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:44:08 2020 No.11945105

>>11945041
Any scientist would know that these categories are not intrinsic, and would acknowledge that they only have meaning in context to make communication easier. To be so obsessed with categories is a major flaw of the human mind, in particular the simple-minded. Let's rewind to my original statement. Race is a fucking meme. Tribalism can emerge in any fucking way, and saying race is the "truest" form of tribalism is incredibly retarded.

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Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:47:15 2020 No.11945125

>>11945117
I'm old enough to remember the Iraq War, the Bailouts and the 2007-2009 great recession, my own braincase is all the evidence I need when I'm arguing with some dumb zoomer posting /pol/ memes who can't even name under which presidency these things happened.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:48:28 2020 No.11945132 >>11945082 You are completely and totally ignorant of reality and its embarrassing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:48:30 2020 No.11945134 >>11945082 Because they murder white people for being white. There were livestreams, remember. Everyone got to watch it happen.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:50:44 2020 No.11945142 >>11945099 Black-on-black violence isn't at the hands of the state. Of course they're against it, but their focus is the racial injustice in law enforcement. You can't cover every issue there is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:53:45 2020 No.11945151 File: 208 KB, 1000x818, Tays_Law.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11944746 >There's a reason why they keep claiming that the latest AI's that they build are "failures" because they come out racist or anti-semitic. Facts are racist!

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:53:46 2020 No.11945152
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>>11945142
Let me put it into perspective: More black people have died at the hands of these riots that are supposedly in the name of black lives than blacks died by police hands in 2020 and 2019 (and soon even 2018) combined.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:56:13 2020 No.11945159 >>11945142 You are completely and totally ignorant of reality and its embarrassing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:56:15 2020 No.11945160 >>11945152 Are you going to post a source for that statement?

Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:57:38 2020 No.11945164

>>11945151
>Scientist develops AI based on machine learning and input from internet users
>/pol/ retards flood the AI chat
>AI comes out repeating /pol/ memes
>This totally proves national socialism right guise!!!
My kid can repeat stuff I teach him, too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:59:05 2020 No.11945167 >>11944629 why the homophobia?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 00:00:06 2020 No.11945172 >>11944624 not science or math

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 00:03:26 2020 No.11945177
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>>11945160
In 2019, only 10 black people died at the hands of police, and 8 of which were lawfully justified. And in 2020, even less than that. Police are in fact more likely to shoot a white suspect than they are a black suspect.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 00:04:25 2020 No.11945182 >>11945105 >saying race is the "truest" form of tribalism is incredibly retarded. No, but it's the most useful and meaningful in the context of modern society. That's all it takes anon.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 00:04:49 2020 No.11945183

>>11945152
Cool. Firstly, I don't believe you.

Secondly, there are many other ways racial injustice happens than getting killed by police.

Thirdly, just because one issue is smaller than other, doesn't mean we can't try to fix it. Do you scoff at Parkinson's fundraisers and tell them to focus on cancer?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 00:06:40 2020 No.11945192 >>11945182 We are a far far far cry away from the original claim. Do you forget so easily? >Racism is a part of life. It will never go away.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 00:07:05 2020 No.11945193 >>11945177 >Police are in fact But facts be racist!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 00:08:27 2020 No.11945197 >>11945177 You still have no source, and you realize it's currently 2020 right?

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 00:10:36 2020 No.11945200

>>11945183
>Secondly, there are many other ways racial injustice happens than getting killed by police.
>lists absolutely nothing
>will just make shit up now that i pointed it out
>"systematic"
you do realize that white people are more likely to be shot by police after controlling for population size and likelihood to kill an officer, right?
if you think theres racial injustice against black people cuz they get killed by police, then surely that means whites are facing even more injustice
you wouldnt have made up your mind before looking at the facts, would you?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 00:11:21 2020 No.11945201
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>>11945177
You're thinking of "unarmed" people.

1000 people died to police
~250 were black

You're a fucking idiot arguing against a fucking idiot.

>>11945182
It's not the MOST meaningful in modern society. Culture and what that encapsulates tend to create stronger tribes than race, especially after decades of propaganda targeting certain individuals. See pic.

Race isn't just about perception and tribe, it's about significant genetic differences (on average) that lead to disparities between populations.

>>11945183
Parkinson's is a real issue.

Blacks are privileged cry-babies who believe ridiculous conspiracy theories about "muh black genocide".

>>11945197
>you realize it's currently 2020 right
How low IQ are you? Holy fuck.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 00:11:57 2020 No.11945202

>>11945183
I really don't give a shit about your precious feelings, my dude. You can choose to believe me or not, but you're clearly incredibly ignorant to reality that you can't even manage to perceive reality for what it is.
>>Secondly, there are many other ways racial injustice happens than getting killed by police.
Yes, and almost all of the time, they're perpetrated by black individuals on other races.
>>Do you scoff at Parkinson's fundraisers and tell them to focus on cancer?
Cancer research is an endless scheme that siphons money. A cure for cancer doesn't exist despite all the billions put into it because it's extremely profitable for hospitals.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 00:12:13 2020 No.11945203

>>11945192
And? You're trying to derail the conversation anon. The very fact that race is a useful category indicates that it's not going away.

Two words: Self Identification. You can claim it's a meme all you want, so long as self identified race prove to be a useful scientific category, it will persist, and in fact it makes it more intrinsic than any amount of genetic distance could ever provide (save complete speciation).

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 00:13:52 2020 No.11945207 >>11945200 >lists absolutely nothing Man, I didn't know I had to do this. Sorry I overestimated you. Beatings, taserings, unlawful arrests, harassment, unlawful searches, unequal sentencing. Off the top of my head in under a minute.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 00:14:24 2020 No.11945208 >>11945201 And yet, as previously stated, black people kill more black people every year through violence and abortions than police and the KKK have combined in their entire history.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 00:16:24 2020 No.11945210 >>11945202 >Yes, and almost all of the time, they're perpetrated by black individuals on other races. Not at the hands of the state.

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