/sfg/ Spaceflight General

[Anonymous No.11869409]

ULA motorized infantry platoon edition

old >>11865734

[Anonymous No.11869411]

Fuck boing and fuck earth

[Anonymous No.11869413]

someone whitepill me >>11869374

[Anonymous No.11869416]

[Anonymous No.11869417]

>>11869413
Words of wisdom:
>It's easier to demoralize the right than mobilize the left
Don't be a chump; do it because you can, not because someone tells you you can't.

[Anonymous No.11869418]

>>11869409
they clearly just ran over a bush, there's evidence all over the front of that vehicle
someone call the EPA

[Anonymous No.11869419]

>>11869413
The whitepill: We're getting the fuck off this shithole planet

The blackpill: Mandatory racial quotas and liberal democracies only, enforced by US space force.

[Anonymous No.11869422]

>>11869419
there's nothing wrong with liberal democracies, as long as you're oldschool liberal and not the new liberal

[Anonymous No.11869423]

>>11869419
>Mandatory racial quotas

Yep, if spacex takes colonists only on merit they will end up with an overwhelming amount of whites, some asians and a few assorted others. No way the political system will let that stand.

[Anonymous No.11869424]

>>11869419
>>11869422
>>11869423
so thus the setting for the first interplanetary war will be between a crazed religious cult bent on enslavement of the entire universe in control of a decaying empire and some lonely colonists, seems pretty absurd

[Anonymous No.11869425]

>>11869424
Sieg Zeon

[Anonymous No.11869426]

>>11869425
i wonder when the conflict between earth and mars colonists will first occur? 2050s, 2060s?

[Anonymous No.11869427]

>>11869426
40s

[Anonymous No.11869429]

to sharpen or not to sharpen?

[Anonymous No.11869430]

>>11869426
Its unwinnable from the Martian point of view, earth just stops exporting them goods. No way a few decades is enough time for them to produce literally everything on Mars, let alone be on any kind of war footing against 8 billion people and an entire planetary industry.

[Anonymous No.11869431]

>>11869429

[Anonymous No.11869437]

>>11869430
just drop rocks lmao

[Anonymous No.11869438]

>>11869437
Not doable with any current propulsion system.

[Anonymous No.11869441]

>>11869430
mars doesn't have to completely subjugate the earth, they just have to make it expensive enough that earth gives up

[Anonymous No.11869444]

bros.... is my fairing too big.....

[Anonymous No.11869446]

>>11869444
what payload are you launching

[Anonymous No.11869451]

>>11869441
Stopping exports doesn't cost anything.

[Anonymous No.11869453]

>>11869446
some shitty comsats, throwing them up all at once because that makes it way simpler getting the orbit spacing correct since you can just put the tug in resonant orbit and drop a sat off and circularize each time you hit apoapsis

[Anonymous No.11869456]

>>11869411
>fuck earth
Holy fucking based

[Anonymous No.11869457]

>>11869451
that is why i personally think such a war wouldn't be fought until mars was mostly or entirely self sufficient, which might not happen til the 2080s

[Anonymous No.11869458]

>>11869453
fairing could be made a bit smaller to save on mass

[Anonymous No.11869464]

>>11869453
that's a sick home theater setup you got there man

[Anonymous No.11869465]

[Anonymous No.11869505]

>>11869465
My man

[Anonymous No.11869509]

>>11869465
>Bullied by Donald Trump on social media

[Anonymous No.11869523]

>>11869465
Add "still on good terms with him" to Elon quitting since that makes it funnier and is true.

[Anonymous No.11869533]

Will the lefties still try to hate him when SpaceX solar farms are sucking up CO2 to fuel 100% reusable rockets?

[Anonymous No.11869536]

>>11869533
yes

[Anonymous No.11869541]

>>11869533
Yes

[Anonymous No.11869546]

>>11869536
>>11869541
Musk needs to turn neuralink into some kind of brain scanner, no lefties or sub 110 IQ individuals on Mars.

[Anonymous No.11869550]

>>11869533
>Will the lefties still try to hate him when SpaceX solar farms are sucking up CO2 to fuel 100% reusable rockets?
they'll say he's taking too much and then start hyperventilating like they did when the amazon caught fire last year

[Anonymous No.11869553]

Would concentrated solar thermal and a Stirling engine ever beat solar panels in kg/kW at useful power ranges for a Mars rocket?

[Anonymous No.11869554]

>>11869550
>WTF HE CANT JUST SUCK UP THOUSANDS OF TONNES OF C02 FOR HIS PET PROJECT DOESN'T HE KNOW THE PLANET RELIES ON A DELICATE ATMOSPHERIC BALANCE AND PLANTS NEED C02 TO THRIVE

[Anonymous No.11869579]

>Elon just called Noam Chomsky a mind virus

Just about choked on my drink, he can't keep getting away with it!

[Anonymous No.11869589]

>>11869579
Oh that’s who he was talking about? What’s the tldr on that guy, is he a “you must be rough on your kids” philosopher? That would make sense in the context of the tweet- that or Elon hates him because he’s jewish lmao

[Anonymous No.11869592]

>>11869589
>War bad no war stop American imperialism
>wtf trump can't pull out of Syria, my tribe has a vested interest there

He's a stereotypical hypocrite kike

[Anonymous No.11869596]

Florida

[Anonymous No.11869608]

Florida

[Anonymous No.11869610]

>24 hours in orbit
>realize I forgot to put insulation on the lox tank and don't have the emergency solid rockets on this version of orbiter
>have to dump all my RCS fuel into getting periapsis under 100km and then another 4 orbits trying to get enough drag

[Anonymous No.11869615]

>>11869592
>war bad
>OY VEY! You can’t pull out! I have contractors to pay, what about the power vacuuuuum
A tale as old as time.

[Anonymous No.11869620]

rip

[Anonymous No.11869621]

take the real scale orbitpill bros

[Anonymous No.11869623]

[Anonymous No.11869624]

>>11869620
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWIUMe7b3EQ
me the chunks

[Anonymous No.11869625]

>>11869620
noooooooo

[Anonymous No.11869626]

>>11869623
what film did they use and why is it always so KINO

[Anonymous No.11869627]

>>11869626
>Kodak Ektachrome SO-368 medium speed ASA 64 color reversal
from march to the moon

[Anonymous No.11869640]

when is bobendoug coming back, i wanna see reentry videos

[Anonymous No.11869648]

>>11869640
I heard they have another spacewalk planned for later this month, so probably after that.

[Anonymous No.11869652]

bros i wanna go to fuckin SPACE already

[Anonymous No.11869653]

how many people have had sex in space so far

[Anonymous No.11869654]

what does space smell like

[Anonymous No.11869657]

>>11869654
sweaty armpits (female)

[Anonymous No.11869675]

>>11869640
FOOL, YOU CANNOT SUMMON THE BOBENDOUG SO EASILY.

[Anonymous No.11869676]

>unlock NK-9s
>hey these look cool, lets just use clusters of these on all my rockets
>everything works great in sim
>actually build them and go to launch
>realize I had part failures disabled in sim
>IGNITION FAILURE IGNITION FAILURE THRUST LOSS IGNITION FAILURE PERMANENT SHUTDOWN PERFORMANCE LOSS THRUST LOSS
help bros i fucking N-1ed myself

[Anonymous No.11869685]

>>11869653
floating mir cumball suggests all soviet cosmonauts.

[Anonymous No.11869687]

LOL

[Anonymous No.11869688]

https://twitter.com/roscosmos/status/1279681003083227137

[Anonymous No.11869691]

>>11869688
>commieblock stairwell color cables
BASED

[Anonymous No.11869692]

>>11869688
>fooking luv spheres dont ya comrade
"Da".

[Anonymous No.11869704]

>>11869688
>russian troll in the comments saying SpaceX is using Russian engines

[Anonymous No.11869705]

>>11869704
he's right you know

[Anonymous No.11869708]

>>11869705
merlin is rd-xxx derived? or we talking full flow technology on raptor?

[Anonymous No.11869713]

when you see it

[Anonymous No.11869717]

>>11869713
ey grl wanna see my space junk lmao

[Anonymous No.11869720]

>>11869713

[Anonymous No.11869722]

>>11869713
COCKED

[Anonymous No.11869740]

[Anonymous No.11869742]

>>11869740
how do i make my gamer cave this kino

[Anonymous No.11869746]

>>11869704
If Russia was so much better than some private junkyard company in the US they would have been on Mars by now.
Pro tip they are not.
They had a lifetime opportunity 30 years ago and they failed.

[Anonymous No.11869748]

what are the augers for before the impellers?

[Anonymous No.11869750]

>>11869742
make your gamer cave fit in a small closet

[Anonymous No.11869751]

>>11869742
launch it into space

[Anonymous No.11869757]

[Anonymous No.11869758]

>>11869757

[Anonymous No.11869762]

>>11869758
that's a big guy

[Anonymous No.11869763]

>>11869748
Just a type of pump. Im not exactly sure of the purpose, I think its a design to help force it through the pump.

[Anonymous No.11869766]

>>11869762
>22km tall
>occupies an area larger than france
U N I T

[Anonymous No.11869790]

>>11869748
How the f does the liquid from one side not leak into another and grenade it?

[Anonymous No.11869791]

>>11869790
magnets

[Anonymous No.11869794]

>>11869790
all those cavities in the bearing housing we're seeing will be filled with various seals.

[Anonymous No.11869799]

>>11869791
nah that design is oil lubricated, you can see the inlet/outlets for it.

[Anonymous No.11869802]

[Anonymous No.11869812]

>>11869790
seals
minute 18 to minute 20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgiMu8A3pi0

[Anonymous No.11869819]

>>11869812
>this video
>2 hours on v2 turbo pumps
i owe you a beer

[Anonymous No.11869853]

>>11869819
>oh it's just some guy in his garage with some nice 1980s ou-tier diagrams and models
>nah brah, we're going to germany to look at hardware
10/10

[Anonymous No.11869882]

>>11869758
amazing shot, Mars is beautiful

[Anonymous No.11869957]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj1EED2Wt2k

[Anonymous No.11869963]

>>11869957

[Anonymous No.11870029]

>>11869589
Pretty sure he’s a communist. Only good leftist is a dead one.

[Anonymous No.11870092]

>>11869957
Bobndoug.

[Anonymous No.11870100]

>>11869812
man that's fascinating. kind of funny how he goes through the manufacturers marks on all the components and sees that a solid 80% are still trading.

[Anonymous No.11870109]

>>11869704
Got a link to that?

[Anonymous No.11870127]

>home turbopumps using scrap soviet missile gas turbines, a sodastream and diy monopropellants
<3

[Anonymous No.11870132]

>>11870127
dangerously based

[Anonymous No.11870133]

>>11869654
gunpowder

[Anonymous No.11870146]

>>11869429
s'cool

[Anonymous No.11870149]

>>11869444
Your grass is too brown and dull but your trips make up for it

[Anonymous No.11870151]

>>11870109
https://twitter.com/batarenik/status/1279708474335772673
This guy claims SpaceX buys russian engines. I wonder how he will cope with starship

[Anonymous No.11870156]

>>11869610
>>11869621
jesus it looks so fucking good

[Anonymous No.11870175]

>>11870151
>Why did you get that Space X buys Russian engines?
>"Well-known information"
>Is this information in your hospital newspaper?
If that means what I think it means, then nice burn.

[Anonymous No.11870187]

alright rocketman
you convinced me
I'm reinstalling KSP right now
but first, spoonfeed me your modlist so I won't spend a day figuring out what I need and what krankens-out the whole game

[Anonymous No.11870193]

>he's not building dangerous homemade rockets out of salvaged V2 parts
what's your excuse?

[Anonymous No.11870194]

>>11870187
he posted his mods in the last few threads if that helps. my boomer laptop can't even run stock ksp but it does look much more fun with all the extras that guy has.

[Anonymous No.11870201]

>>11870193
My solid rocket propellant is still shipping. Hopefully it'll be with me tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.11870214]

>SN5 static fire testing to begin no earlier than July 8, 2020 8:00 a.m. – 5:00 p.m. using Raptor SN 27
I'm gonna COOOOOOOM....

[Anonymous No.11870225]

>>11870201
make sure your launchpad is sturdy enough
I tried launching my first rocket, the wooden stake/launching rail tipped and re-directed about half a kilo of explosives on fire into my dad's garage

[Anonymous No.11870236]

>>11870201
why not hybrid? n2o is cheap, wax is cheaper.

[Anonymous No.11870246]

>>11870225
Noted. Hopefully nothing valuable was damaged.

>>11870236
I have some potassium nitrate that I want to use. Fortunately the fuel I got is HTPB so it can work with N2O.

[Anonymous No.11870251]

>>11870246
only my confidence

[Anonymous No.11870254]

>>11869413
It doesn't matter if the entire nation doesn't give a shit about colonizing space, literally all that matters is that SpaceX is doing Starship regardless, and once Starship is working there can be actual grassroots movements to do these things. The idea that there must be this grand impetus from government in order to accomplish things is the opposite of what is actually true.

[Anonymous No.11870257]

>>11870254
>The idea that there must be this grand impetus from government in order to accomplish things is the opposite of what is actually true.
correct. see: the entirety of human history with and without nation states.

[Anonymous No.11870259]

I'm glad there won't be any conservatives on Mars

[Anonymous No.11870260]

>>11869692
is russian space onions? I mean a great deal of their systems look like onions. Look at soyuz for example, the crew modules look like onions. Are they following the classic russian architectural tradition of making domes that look like onions?

[Anonymous No.11870263]

>>11870260
I...I guess

[Anonymous No.11870266]

>>11870260
lol

[Anonymous No.11870267]

>11870259
>same bait posted in the next thread
i'm glad there won't be any leftists on mars

[Anonymous No.11870271]

>>11869553
Probably not, because that Stirling engine will need a radiator array to set up the thermal gradient it needs to run, and I can't imagine a mirror array plus radiator array plus Stirling engine plus generator that weighs less than a solar panel array for the same watts, even if I consider ultra-thin mirrors and radiators. Solar panels just aren't that heavy to begin with, and it's possible to make thin-film solar arrays that get very good watts per kilogram despite being less efficient than normal photovoltaics which are much thicker.

[Anonymous No.11870276]

I'm glad there won't be anyone on mars

[Anonymous No.11870278]

>>11870260
can you peal them away to make a delicious fried accompaniment to steak?

[Anonymous No.11870283]

Why is the Titan so aesthetic?

[Anonymous No.11870299]

>>11869748
>what are the augers for before the impellers?
They're axial pumps that help prevent cavitation by stepping up the pressure a bit before the liquids reach the centrifugal impellers, which fling the fluid out sideways and up to very high pressures.
>>11869790
>How the f does the liquid from one side not leak into another and grenade it?
Those gaps you can see in the interior structure of the pump between the oxygen side and the fuel side? Those gaps are constantly purged with an inert gas (usually helium) at high pressure to both slow the leak rate into the gaps and also to remove oxygen and fuel that do manage to seep through. The inert gas purge system is a thing on basically every rocket engine that exists which doesn't use full flow staged combustion.

[Anonymous No.11870302]

>>11870283
Colors scheme, SRB's, and what's that orange thing?

[Anonymous No.11870312]

>>11870283
The shaft has perfect girth ratio, the gland has pleasing angle at the tip and boosters are ribbed for your pleasure

[Anonymous No.11870315]

>>11870302
>what's that orange thing?
I guess it stores the hydraulics for the SRB thrust vector control.

[Anonymous No.11870322]

>>11870236
>why not hybrid?
Complex, shitty performance, more things can go wrong (like the fuel grain shitting itself out of the back of the engine, which tends to happen far more in hybrid engines than in solid propellant motors)

[Anonymous No.11870326]

>>11870315
that's kinda goofy

[Anonymous No.11870329]

I'm glad there won't be any communists on mars

[Anonymous No.11870331]

>>11870283
Titan is so weird, those solids seem so over-sized for the core stage it's ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.11870332]

>>11870322
even with wax over rubber?

[Anonymous No.11870336]

>>11870315
>https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/25442/what-was-the-purpose-of-the-small-red-tank-attached-to-the-titan-centaur-launche
Wow, that's creative.

[Anonymous No.11870345]

>>11870332
Yes, wax specifically has a tendency to melt closer to the oxidizer inlet where more heat is being generated and form surface contours that generate areas of higher and lower pressure due to flow dynamics inside the combustion chamber which can peel the softened wax off of the fuel element in large chunks.

[Anonymous No.11870376]

>>11869413
when spacex are offering nasa tickets to mars at 500k a ton we won't need apollo levels of impetus

[Anonymous No.11870378]

>>11870376
Nice!

[Anonymous No.11870385]

>>11869413
Starship is real and is doing well with testing. There’s some hiccups along the way but we’re getting there.

It’s likely Starship will fly this year, with the whole stack flying either 2021 or maybe 2022.

[Anonymous No.11870450]

>>11870151

[Anonymous No.11870469]

>>11870385
If Starship flies next year we could hit the 2022 Mars launch window for at least cargo.

[Anonymous No.11870473]

>>11870376
You already see Bridenstine pushing NASA in that direction with fixed price per ton contracts for moon cargo delivery.

[Anonymous No.11870491]

>>11870473
Absolutely, He's trying to set a precedent beyond just having fixed price contracts by pushing for actual price-per-payload-mass contracts, which is really what we need in order to get Moon colonization happening. You can't really set up a regular schedule of cargo shipments to the Moon if every launch is treated more like a unique mission with unique requirements instead of a space truck hauling whatever. Since cargo price per kilogram drops the closer you get to the maximum payload limit of the vehicle, there's an incentive for those ordering shipments to stuff as much mass into those cargo bays as they can, which in my opinion makes me think there will be lots of raw materials being shipped to the Moon alongside more complex bits of cargo such as machinery and modules. These raw materials could be stuff like rolls of different sheet metals, or simpler things like tanks full of liquid nitrogen, but either way they'd be important for maximizing payload mass and minimizing cost per ton.

[Anonymous No.11870493]

>>11870473
>fixed price per ton contracts for moon cargo delivery.
I can already hear oldspace seething over that. I wonder what kind of paid articles would be written to fight against it.

[Anonymous No.11870499]

>>11870473
Soon, Biden will replace Jim with some sheboon

[Anonymous No.11870515]

>>11870499
Trump is going to win, so Jim isn't going anywhere.

[Anonymous No.11870516]

>>11870385
>It’s likely Starship will fly this year

[Anonymous No.11870523]

>>11870499
>>11870515
I'mma let you finish, but Kayne is going to be the real winner.

[Anonymous No.11870529]

>>11870385
>>11870516
We will see a SN fly to the karman line this year. But not the final design.

[Anonymous No.11870530]

>>11870523
Not that it would happen, but a Kanye presidency would be ridiculously biased towards SpaceX and Tesla.

[Anonymous No.11870537]

>>11870516
sn7 already flew. it wont make orbit or even karman this year but it will hop.

[Anonymous No.11870541]

>>11870530
Yes and?

[Anonymous No.11870556]

>>11870537
Elon will risk a few raptors for the publicity of getting it above 100km by the end of the year. If it will land in one piece will be another question.

[Anonymous No.11870566]

SN5 is getting 3 raptors right? Why is there only one attached?

[Anonymous No.11870572]

>>11870566
They need to complete the tests that SN4 was doing including a short hop which will only require 1 engine.

[Anonymous No.11870618]

>>11870556
big doubt
they said the same nearly a year ago

[Anonymous No.11870625]

She's BIG

[Anonymous No.11870631]

>>11870572
Damn, hate whoever is in charge of ground systems.

[Anonymous No.11870632]

>>11870625
>THAT'S A HUUGE BITCH

[Anonymous No.11870644]

So here's the final iteration of the XR3 before I finalize it for contracts. It now has the necessary parts for booster recovery, but the the thing is much more expensive than I thought it would be (20,000VF without a payload). Are there any tricks to reduce costs of a rocket in KSP?

Also, I wish there was an inline version of the Thud. Would've been perfect as an upper stage engine for this.

[Anonymous No.11870647]

>>11870625
Scrolling up on this produces the same effect as those panning up shots of the Saturn V and other long rockets where it just keeps going and going and going

[Anonymous No.11870655]

>>11870151
Russian steel

[Anonymous No.11870666]

>>11870644
why do you use liquid fuel boosters?
i normally have one big first stage with some srbs which get the whole thing almost in orbit with another smaller 2nd stage for the final circularization. then i land the first stage with a combination of parachutes and engines somewhere in the ocean.

[Anonymous No.11870671]

>>11870644
>tricks to reduce cost
Experiment with different parts to find the vehicle that costs the minimum amount which can still perform the mission you need it to do. Don't overlook the cost of propellant tanks, and at the same time don't underestimate the cost of clustering a lot of individually-less-expensive engines. Basically don't fall for memes, and remember that Ksp is a game with game rules, not real life rules.
>an inline version of the Thud
Just use the rotation and position tools to line up the thrust vector of a single thud along the vertical axis of your rocket and let its gimbal range do the rest.

[Anonymous No.11870675]

>>11870666
>why do you use liquid fuel boosters?
I think those are just outboard fuel tanks with the core's main engines mounted on them, not LF boosters.

[Anonymous No.11870679]

>>11870666
>why do you use liquid fuel boosters?
Because every time I use a booster stage that is purely solid motors the rocket ends up flipping out of control. The thuds keep things under control. Also, the engines are necessary for retropropulsive landings.

>>11870671
Thanks for the suggestions.

>>11870675
That too. The rocket was comically long if all the propellant tanks were inline with the core. Although, after that post I moved those side tanks to be on top of the solid motors so the rocket has a smaller cross-section.

[Anonymous No.11870687]

>>11870647
>>11870625

[Saren No.11870716]

We need to eliminate flat earthers, niggers, spics, anti-science whites, any type of low IQ group of people that may be a nuisance on humanity's path to ascencion, or we should at least isolate from these types of people and enforce that.

Imagine how advanced we would be as of now if we had an Empire lead by scientific development and progress.

The final part of our journey is to become gods ourselves.

[Anonymous No.11870724]

>>11870716

[Saren No.11870727]

>>11870716
>Imagine how advanced we would be as of now if we had an Empire lead by scientific development and progress.

Perhaps that's reality and I'm in a pod travelling to another star system. Wonder if killing myself would make me wake up or the VR program would just switch to another simulation until the travel is complete.

[Anonymous No.11870732]

>>11870687

[Saren No.11870737]

>>11870724

By using wojak and getting triggered by the post I assume you are one of the minority groups that I wrote about, don't worry, if it happens your family of 60 IQ niggerinos will die in a nuclear flame, it will be painless.

[Anonymous No.11870739]

How do you fly in space u fucking morons there's no air

follow directions ffs, can't do anything right

[Saren No.11870743]

>>11870724
>>11870737

Or maybe you used the wojak for the >muh I fucking love science robotic meme response that is common on this fucking board. I don't think that those white liberals that watch Bill Nye and project that they love science would want to kill the scum of our society, aka niggers.

[Anonymous No.11870744]

>>11870716
Idiots will always be around. It's better to deal with them rather than try to exterminate them.

[Anonymous No.11870751]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_sail

Btfo "space flyers"

I'm a space sailor

[Saren No.11870756]

>>11870744

How do we deal with idiocy? It's not like they are harmless anon, if they get control of a nation they can end up destroying knowledge and precious power, like those fucking sub-humans that destroyed ancient libraries in ancient times. They can set up anti-scientific nations and stop anyone that's trying to progress, like some fucking europeans that wanted to kill a guy for saying that the earth is not the center of the universe.

[Saren No.11870762]

>>11870751
>>11870739

That is some 12 year old tier troll bait post, anon.
If you are older than that you should be very disappointed in what your life has become.

[Anonymous No.11870763]

>>11870756
Fuck bro

will build solar sails for food

wts enchanting services

[Anonymous No.11870765]

>>11870716
"anti-science" aka politics that you disagree with. "Science says racism is a public health and protest helps solve racism" "Science says protesting covid is anti-science"

[Anonymous No.11870771]

>>11870765
Don't reply to it. Don't give it attention.

[Anonymous No.11870774]

>>11870743
Nah, it fits perfectly well if your ideal future is an "Empire lead by scientific development and progress".

[Anonymous No.11870792]

>>11870743
Killing all namefags would unironically be a better service to humanity

[Anonymous No.11870803]

>>11870765
I really resent the radical centrist "science doesn't lie" tagline they keep pushing. Science doesn't lie because science doesn't draw conclusions from incomplete data sets.

[Anonymous No.11870830]

>>11870716
I am willing to bet this guy has done nothing to advance humanity except work a summer job at 7-11 to pay for gas money on his mom's prius.

[Anonymous No.11870860]

>>11869608

[Anonymous No.11870920]

>>11870716
Can you not be racist please

[Anonymous No.11870921]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1279846614723514368 elon finally acknowledged this

[Anonymous No.11870922]

>>11870920
N

[Anonymous No.11870923]

>>11870803
The people you resent aren't reasonable people. They're dogmatic demagogues pushing an anti-American ideology to create discontent that fractures enough of the bedrock of society to enable Marxism to take root.

[Anonymous No.11870925]

>>11869554
To be fair that was always the case.
>70's: "Noooooo global cooling we're going to have another ice age apocalypse!"
>80's: "Noooooo global warming, discard your way of life and stop using electricity or the planet will become baked like Venussssss!"
>90's: "Noooooo overpopulation is going to destroy society, stop reproducing and commit more infanticide!!1"
>2000's to now: "Nooooo, nebulous climate changes we can't accurately predict are going to turn the planet into Venus again, no shut up bigot you have to ignore the times some of us were sent to jail for altering datasets in government backed studies!"

It will never fucking end, the only solution is to leave these people behind on Earth.

[Anonymous No.11870926]

>>11870922
I

[Anonymous No.11870927]

>>11870925
or have them stand under a static fire test

[Anonymous No.11870930]

>>11870860
I get it

[Anonymous No.11870929]

>>11870926
G

[Anonymous No.11870932]

>>11870920

[Anonymous No.11870935]

>>11870679
ah i see
i don't want to tell you how to build your rockets, but the flipping can be handled quite easily by putting finns at the buttom. basically as long as the center of lift is behind the center of mass, you should be good.

[Anonymous No.11870941]

>>11870929
G

[Anonymous No.11870942]

>>11870925
retard
global warming was accurately predicted since about a hundred years. it was renamed into climate change, since stupid idiots couldn't understand how local climate could become colder even though the entire planet gets warmer, so don't put the blame for this on the people with the brains.

[Anonymous No.11870948]

>>11870942
Found the Russian troll. How much are Putin's cronies paying you to do this per post?

[Anonymous No.11870950]

>>11870942
tbf it was a pretty retarded move since it only served to confuse those same idiots more (see: >>11870925 ) and in the process give them ammunition

[Anonymous No.11870959]

>>11870941
E

[Anonymous No.11870960]

>>11870950
There was never a “renaming”. Both terms are in concurrent use and refer to different things.

[Anonymous No.11870965]

>>11870959
R

[Saren No.11870970]

>>11870774

Only sub-humans beasts would disagree with it, I see no argument against it, except for the pseudo-moralist american "freedom to the extreme" bullshit, like that is working well for them right now.

By the way, hang yourself negro, what good are you?

>>11870792
I would say the same for the people that put you on this planet. Ending your bloodline and preventing your genes from infecting humanity would be far better.

>>11870830

Oh yes, like exposing my personal life to some pseudo-intelectual basement dweller fucks just to prove a point would be the ideal. Kill yourself Kyle, Brian, Jake, whatever your worthless name is, I could be Elon Musk and you wouldn't even know and that wouldn't even fucking matter, what matters is the truth, and the ultimate truth is that anti-science niggers and hillbilly fucks have done nothing to contribute to humanity, they only leach the work of people who believe in scientific progress and its power.

[Saren No.11870980]

>>11870970

Flat-earthers, anti-vax, any sort of group that use low IQ theories because the scientific reason behind something is too complex for them to understand should be stripped from all of their eletronics, they should be forced to go back to farming and hunting for a living, that's is what their mindset believes in, and that's why blacks had sticks and stone while the europeans had gunpowder, because they are tradionalistic tribalistic fucks.

[Anonymous No.11870993]

>>11870970
>>11870980
>they only leach the work of people who believe in scientific progress and its power.

Progress is not guaranteed, and the output is only a direct product of human effort to achieving a given goal. It does not posses any inherent moral value. Science is not a god, and yet you're preaching to us like you've just found Him.

[Anonymous No.11870997]

>>11870948
>Found the Russian troll. How much are Putin's cronies paying you to do this per post?
about 3 freedoms per hour which are directly ripped from true americans by vaccination
>>11870950
yeah i am not a fan of it either, but what can i do

[Anonymous No.11870999]

>>11870970
In the off chance that this isn't a larp, your infantile technocratic fantasy suffers from the same problem that the ideology of the "I fucking love science" people does. "Science" doesn't tell you what to do, it only tells you how things work. Have fun being governed by black trannies who won't think twice about murdering you and your family

[Anonymous No.11871002]

>Climate cultists and a bootlicking namefag
Holy fuck this thread took the turnoff to shitsville quick.

[Anonymous No.11871003]

>>11870997
>about 3 freedoms per hour which are directly ripped from true americans by vaccination
Ooh, an hourly.

[Saren No.11871013]

>>11870993
> Science is not a god

No, it isn't, but it is because of it that, in time, we ourselves will become gods, maybe in a hundred years, maybe in a thousand years, I do believe that technology will evolve to the point that a modern day human wouldn't be able to diserminate technology from magic.

[Anonymous No.11871018]

>>11870993
The Gods dwell in the Warp, and their names are Tzeentch, Slaanesh, Khorne, and Nurgle.

[Saren No.11871020]

>>11870999
>Have fun being governed by black trannies who won't think twice about murdering you and your family

If you were honest and read all that I wrote you would know that there would be no such thing as "being governed by black trannies"

>it only tells you how things work

Science is a neutral power that allows us to know the truth, like blacks having lower IQs

[Anonymous No.11871023]

>>11871018
what about malal

[Saren No.11871026]

>>11871002

I am on a science board praising the power of science, this power that brought us people like Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein.

You have clearly exposed yourself as a /pol/ faggot

[Anonymous No.11871027]

[Anonymous No.11871028]

>>11871013
>I do believe that technology will evolve to the point that a modern day human wouldn't be able to diserminate technology from magic.
>diserminate

I assume that particular neologism was a brainfart between Discriminate and Discern

As for the rest, it's not a novel idea to believe that digital immortality will be attainable in the not too distant future. Honestly, I just expect it to be used to extend mortgages and create novel forms of debt slavery where death just adds to the tally of what you owe.

[Anonymous No.11871030]

>>11871027

[Anonymous No.11871034]

>>11871030

[Saren No.11871038]

>>11871028
>diserminate

Yeah, I have english as second language, writing fast makes me ram words like these without even looking. I do constantly check google for the meaning and spelling of these words.

But yes, I meant Discern.

[Anonymous No.11871041]

>>11871034

[Anonymous No.11871043]

>>11871027
Why do Elon’s rockets look a lot more “complicated” in terms of wires and valves running all over the place? Does it have something to do with the engine process?

[Anonymous No.11871046]

>>11871043
>Why do Elon’s rockets look a lot more “complicated” in terms of wires and valves running all over the place? Does it have something to do with the engine process?

In photos like that one, what you're looking at is a heavily instrumented test article, rather than flight hardware.

[Anonymous No.11871050]

>>11871020
Ok so you're either a retard or a psychopath. Luckily this will never happen

[Anonymous No.11871051]

>>11871043
That engine was probably wired with extra sensors for testing, but it could also be that SpaceX places more sensors in their rockets to get better telemetry during flight.

[Anonymous No.11871052]

>>11871046
Mmmm okay, is it the same case with Raptor? All images Ive seen of Raptor look highly intricate with all sorts of shit going on above the chamber

[Anonymous No.11871054]

>>11870970
>sub-humans beasts
>pseudo-moralist
>hang yourself negro
>pseudo-intelectual basement dweller
>Kill yourself
>worthless
>niggers
>leach, just saw you're foreign so I'll give you a pass. It's leech.
>namefag

Cope, projection, etc.
This is a space forum, talk about space or go back.

On the off-chance you care about space, what do you think about your home country's space program?

[Anonymous No.11871057]

>>11871051

[Anonymous No.11871060]

>>11871057

[Anonymous No.11871065]

>>11871052
>Mmmm okay, is it the same case with Raptor? All images Ive seen of Raptor look highly intricate with all sorts of shit going on above the chamber

Raptor is a much more complicated beast. It has a ridiculous amount of control hardware to deal with two interdependent, but semi-independently variable pumps that have a relatively wide throttle range.

[Anonymous No.11871067]

>>11871054
Good one mods, been on the ball recently.

[Anonymous No.11871068]

>>11871060

[Anonymous No.11871069]

>>11870214
air-space is closed till july 22. its gonna HOOOOP

[Anonymous No.11871072]

>>11871065
That’s a good point, also with the intended “1000 flights” projection I’m sure they want as many sensors as possible to measure every nook, cranny, and facet of each engine

[Anonymous No.11871076]

>>11871069
Statics first, then hop. My money is on the 20th for a hop with 21st and 22nd as backups.

[Anonymous No.11871077]

>>11871068

[Anonymous No.11871079]

Anyone have any good resources for engine stuff? Tired of EDA and that V-2 vid piqued my interest.

[Anonymous No.11871093]

>>11871030
>>11871034
>>11871041
All of these engines are partially assembled with most or a significant amount of plumbing and wiring absent.

[Anonymous No.11871099]

>>11871093
Is this more to your liking?

[Anonymous No.11871102]

>>11871099

[Anonymous No.11871107]

>>11871102

[Anonymous No.11871233]

>>11871099
>>11871102
>>11871107
Much better, it's fair to directly compare those pictures to pictures of Raptor and Merlin 1D.

[Anonymous No.11871236]

If you enlarged the tanks enough for a round trip to the lunar surface, could you fit LESS in a Crew Dragon's trunk? It would be hilarious to do a Moon Dragon shoestring mission before Orion even flies manned.

[Anonymous No.11871259]

>>11871236
Maybe, especially if it had some drop tanks or a small disposable descent stage to pad out the delta-v. They'd have to send Bob alone though, no LESS could carry Doug's enormous mass to the surface of the Moon.

[Anonymous No.11871267]

Oh shit lol, just realised why a faster exhaust means a more efficient engine. The faster you propel your exhaust the less of it you have to propel to achieve the same thrust.

[Anonymous No.11871270]

>>11871267
Yes, but mother nature is a greedy cunt, so high Isp engines all either have shit thrust or are atom bombs

[Anonymous No.11871281]

well jannied

[Anonymous No.11871288]

>>11869957
Bobndoug are expanding

[Anonymous No.11871297]

>>11871270
NTRs have okay thrust

[Anonymous No.11871298]

>>11871270
This is just because we lack the ability to accelerate a large amount of propellant at a fast enough rate to get high efficiency and high thrust. It isn't a physics limit, it's a tech one correct?

[Anonymous No.11871304]

>>11871297
Yeah but until you move up to the groove-ring fuel elements you'll never see comparable TWR to chemical rockets from them and they're only twice as efficient. Any fully mature magnetoplasma drive, lightbulb drive or pulse propulsion drive will make an NTPR look like a soda rocket.

[Anonymous No.11871311]

>>11871270
>>11871298(me)
This is why elon was bragging about 300bar chamber pressure? Because the higher the pressure in the chamber the faster the propellant can be accellerated to.

[Anonymous No.11871338]

>>11871298
You can push NTPRs to have higher mass flow rates by using a fuel element with a larger surface area, however the liquid propellant can only absorb so much heat (energy) from the nuclear fuel, ISP for NTPRs seems to be capped around 900-1000s. At least in theory though a groove ring fuel element could let you get TWRs in the low 100's range, making them more akin to lower end bipropellant LPREs than it's anemic sister rocket NERVA. The DUMBO concept did something similar, forcing propellant to travel through many folded plates of a cermet fuel element to reach the nozzle, thus allowing more liquid to be heated inside the reactor, thus allowing for greater mass flow rate and in turn greater thrust.

ISP is determined by how much energy the propellant can carry out of the engine per unit of it's mass, TWR is determined by the sheer quantity of that propellant the engine can move through itself.

[Anonymous No.11871372]

>>11871338
I like the Skylon guys' Serpent design as far as NTPRs go. That uses heat exchange instead of direct contact and has arcjet afterburners so you get 40% more Isp. If it actually works it will be Enough Engine until we get nuclear lightbulbs.

[Anonymous No.11871379]

>>11871311
Yes, all things remaining the same (gas molecular weight etc).

[Anonymous No.11871383]

>>11871338
>ISP is determined by how much energy the propellant can carry out of the engine per unit of it's mass, TWR is determined by the sheer quantity of that propellant the engine can move through itself.
Exactly, which means if you want both high thrust and high Isp the power output of your engine needs to be insane, akin to a continuously detonating nuclear bomb.

[Anonymous No.11871394]

>>11871372
Yeah, it's not too bad except the proposed engine is 50 tons all on it's own, for perspective it's 20 tons more than the Apollo CSM fully fueled and loaded for a moon shot. Now assuming it isn't extremely tall or extremely fat, a Starship or SLS could still hoist it, but damn that's a lot of engine to be lugging around, especially since that 4.5-ish TWR is probably going to plummet bellow 1 once you attach a big enough ship to it to justify using one.
Assuming the assumptions about ease of technological synthesis are correct though, it is a nice interim stage between already well understood NTPRs and more speculative Lightbulb drives.
>>11871383
Agreed, the lightbulb/candle drives are what should really be striven for in the next couple of decades, along with magnetoplasma rockets big enough to lug giant payloads and smaller more energy dense fission reactors safe enough for space operation.

[Anonymous No.11871504]

redpill me on payload mountings

[Anonymous No.11871513]

>>11871504
I'm sorry Anon but you'll have to be just a tiny bit more specific and couch your question in a non-retarded manner.

[Anonymous No.11871532]

>>11871504
Don't let Northrop do them

[Anonymous No.11871535]

>>11871532
kek

[Anonymous No.11871549]

>>11870930
kek at the baby shuttle feeding the big shuttle

[Anonymous No.11871557]

>>11871288
It's gonna be Bobendough at this rate.

[Anonymous No.11871564]

does 0g make your erections bigger

[Anonymous No.11871571]

>>11871564
resistance only makes my dick harder, anon

[Anonymous No.11871573]

>>11871564
no

[Anonymous No.11871576]

>>11871573
proof?

[Anonymous No.11871586]

https://shop.tesla.com/product/tesla-short-shorts?sku=8529140-00-A

[Anonymous No.11871587]

Post KSP creations
>my first version of a big ass vessel named after a mythological being

[Anonymous No.11871595]

BIG

[Anonymous No.11871610]

what do bobendoug smell like

[Anonymous No.11871615]

>>11871610
the ISS, so years of accumulated BO and unique microflora

[Anonymous No.11871626]

>>11871587

[Anonymous No.11871630]

>>11871610
before or after they broke the toilet?

[Anonymous No.11871631]

>>11871587
Something funny I found.

[Anonymous No.11871635]

>>11871631
>USS Intentional Logical Fallacies

[Anonymous No.11871639]

>>11871631
Probably actually works to maximize lift without a long wingspan in stock KSP

[Anonymous No.11871641]

>>11871635

[Anonymous No.11871644]

>>11871615
BO is suborbital, anon

[Anonymous No.11871668]

>>11871587
Latest project, I believe it's got the necessary delta-V to get to orbit but I'm shitte at flying spaceplanes so I haven't managed it yet myself.

[Anonymous No.11871670]

>>11871587
Made an NTR SSTO. It works and flies like a charm. I wanted it to be aesthetic but I forgot to make the struts invisible.

[Anonymous No.11871675]

>>11871670
Do those wings fold back for launch?

[Anonymous No.11871681]

>>11871626
I made something similar the other day, made a knockoff Dragon and brought a telescope up to my station, attaching with RCS drone. O yo then did I remember the telescope only works in solar orbit, so on the next crew change I brought up a small body in the Dragon trunk to mount the scope on and sent it on its way.
I'm considering what other small things I could assemble in bits from a dragon trunk.

[Anonymous No.11871682]

>>11871587

[Anonymous No.11871691]

>>11871681
>I'm considering what other small things I could assemble in bits from a dragon trunk.
Mun lander?

[Anonymous No.11871695]

>>11871691
Definitely could squeeze a minmus lander in there, maybe a two stage mun lander in two parts? I might have to try that.

[Anonymous No.11871700]

>>11871675
No.

[Anonymous No.11871706]

>>11871681
>>11871236

[Anonymous No.11871746]

video games are not spaceflight, please fuck off

[Anonymous No.11871750]

>>11871746
incorrect

[Anonymous No.11871752]

>>11871746
No u

[Anonymous No.11871757]

>>11871746
It’s better than arguing about printing or 30X steel all day, retard

[Anonymous No.11871759]

>>11871757
it is objectively not as funny as posting about Bobendoug's ever increasing width or proonting

[Anonymous No.11871764]

>>11871054
its non existent

[Anonymous No.11871768]

>>11871757
>he hasn't taken the proont-pill

[Anonymous No.11871793]

>>11871764
Where are you from?

[Anonymous No.11871811]

What will you be doing when the evil capitalist Elon Musk is executed, and all white people are justly made to pay reparations?

[Anonymous No.11871815]

>>11871746
It's a video game that's about space flight, and it's making space flight interesting and fun to not only to fans of space flight but also people who originally weren't into space flight. I think it deserves a spot here.

[Anonymous No.11871819]

>>11871815
I'm really really not interested in hearing like one or two people do a let's play of their KSP experience
blogging is not spaceflight

[Anonymous No.11871834]

>>11871819
The thread is slow enough. Let them.

[Anonymous No.11871836]

>>11871054
Duterte signed Philippine Space Agency into Law last year, 3 years after he first signed Philippine Space Act of 2016.

Our last sat was launched from Japan and deployed from Kibo from the ISS.

[Anonymous No.11871852]

>decide to look up deaths caused by the space program
>23 Americans dead
>6 Russians/Soviets
>1 Israeli
why the fuck do we like NASA again?

[Anonymous No.11871856]

>>11871852
>things that are bad luck in space:
>jews
>the number thirteen
>teachers

[Anonymous No.11871858]

>>11871759
Why doesn't NASA just print more Bobendougs?

[Anonymous No.11871870]

Look at how they massacred my boy

[Anonymous No.11871882]

>>11871870
cool patch
is it gonna land and snag some solar samples, or what?

[Anonymous No.11871883]

>>11871811
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.11871885]

>>11871852
who are you referring to? All the comments I see about NASA are giving them shit for SLS/Shittle/depending on Russia and SpaceX for crewed missions

[Anonymous No.11871887]

>>11871870
I hope no one got fucking paid to make this, I could have done something better with PowerPoint

[Anonymous No.11871888]

>>11871819
I don't like excessive KSP blogging much myself. But there's still a difference between light blogging like "hey I did X", and holy shit get a room blogging like posting half a dozen images in a row. Also, "can you do X?" or "look you can do Y" or "what mods do you use?" isn't really blogging.
I just don't want people posting like this is a /kspg/.

[Anonymous No.11871900]

>>11871882
unironically yes they are collecting and analyzing solar samples

[Anonymous No.11871902]

>>11871811
Choke traitors. Including you.

[Anonymous No.11871907]

>>11871811
what will you do when elon musk drops tungsten rods on your house from orbit?

[Anonymous No.11871916]

>>11871907
im gunna do what I always do

SEC

[Anonymous No.11871920]

>>11871870
I was interviewed for the company who made the shield for that. They had some cool stuff that I wish I could share here. They even had an early version of the Merlin thrust chamber back when they did work with SpaceX.

>>11871888
If you don't like the KSP blogposting here, then you definitely wouldn't like the posting in /kspg/ during it's short revival. Nearly everyone posted just the most basic things in the thread just to keep it bumped. It had to be bumped every hour or so. Maybe another thread can be made, but I doubt it would live.

[Anonymous No.11871927]

Remember nuclear pulse propulsion? Pepperidge farms remembers

https://youtu.be/njM7xlQIjnQ

[Anonymous No.11871929]

>>11871888
asking about mods and evangelizing your modpack are /kspg/ shit and need to fuck off
>>11871907
tungsten is inefficient, better to just use martian granite

[Anonymous No.11871932]

>>11871856
Watch Shelby try to put thirteen Jewish teachers on the first suborbital Starship passenger flight.

[Anonymous No.11871943]

>>11871927
Brother I think about it every day.

[Anonymous No.11871955]

>>11871836
Phillipines? Cool agency they got there, I see the co-op with Malaysia and Bhutan of all places, I would love to see ASEAN do something big with space. It's not houston, but cool control room too.

[Anonymous No.11871958]

>>11871870
at least it isn't comic sans ms

[Anonymous No.11871962]

>>11871943
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_pulse_propulsion

I think the medusa thing is really interesting, what do you guys think?

[Anonymous No.11871969]

>>11871907
Call the police and FUCK THE POLICE AND FUCK AMERIKKKA

[Anonymous No.11871978]

>>11871962
I'm a sucker for anything sail like, and I think it's a much better shock dissipation mechanism if you're going to use NPP at all. My big concern is that ISRU uranium is not going to be viable for centuries if ever, and so you'll either need to restrict them to Earth ferry runs or have fortified nuclear depots everywhere, which in turn gives the military a monopoly on fast interplanetary travel.

[Anonymous No.11871982]

>>11871978
I don't care about any of that, I just wanna know if it could work

[Anonymous No.11871995]

>>11871929
true, tungsten would be better for actual RKMs

[Anonymous No.11872000]

>>11871969
how will the police stop the giant telephone pole sized rod of metal coming at your house at 18000 miles per hour with the energy of a small nuclear bomb?

[Anonymous No.11872002]

>>11871978
you can't use NPP near Earth, the pulse disrupts the magnetic field in a way that causes huge potentials across our transcontinental power lines

[Anonymous No.11872009]

>>11871995
tungsten is very expensive, if you're trying to dickwave it's the best choice
if all you want to do is drop hundred-ton blocks on cities at interplanetary reentry velocity then granite is the best choice

[Anonymous No.11872020]

>>11872002
Well then it's a dead meme. Too dangerous for near Earth, too hard to refuel without massive proliferation of completed bombs, and there's not enough uranium on Earth to make it usable for interstellar flight. At least NSWR might be enough for 0.2c if you can turn it on far away from Earth and figure out how to build an engine that won't shred itself after a months long continuous nuclear detonation.

[Anonymous No.11872035]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZDSvnzpRNI

[Anonymous No.11872039]

>>11872035
Thanks for reminding me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtJFb_P2j48

[Anonymous No.11872044]

>>11871962
Medusa is good on paper but I don't know how much if any consideration was ever given to the actual degradation environment of the tethers and canopy. Orion needed an actively replenished coating to solve degradation, which is much easier on a single plate than on a giant sail and all of its moorings.

>>11871978
You don't need IRSU with NPP. If you're going anywhere in the solar system leaving enough dV to get back isn't a problem. If you're going full sleeper or colony ship or something, then you just leave a budget for shuffling around in the system since that's like .01% of the problem. That said, I do think it is unlikely Earth-sourced material will ever be used because T*rrans are too squeamish. Mars should have plenty of nuclear material to support production, though.

[Anonymous No.11872053]

>>11872020
NSWR doesn't have any real ISP advantage over nuclear pulse, it just has higher thrust, which isn't really important over interstellar distances within reason (and NPP still gives you reasonable thrust)

[Anonymous No.11872059]

>>11872044
Yeah it's probably one of my lesser interests I suppose...

[Anonymous No.11872060]

>>11869751
What's that island below? Cuba?

[Anonymous No.11872068]

>>11872060
where?

[Anonymous No.11872078]

>>11872060
>>11872068
nvm I misunderstood you
yes, that is cuba

[Anonymous No.11872079]

>tfw spending more time on github and editing configs than actually playing ksp
dear god just give me some good capsules with RO/RP1 compat thats all i ask

[Anonymous No.11872084]

>>11872078
Nice. They should purposefully waste millions of dollars to create a rocket that just flies above every socialist nation just as a massive 'fuck you'.

[Anonymous No.11872087]

>>11872084
Those are called ICBMs and we have lots of them.

[Anonymous No.11872095]

>>11871920
Share, you pussy

[Anonymous No.11872100]

>>11872095
no joke, what's up with elon? why is he like this?
is he actually based? is he just an eccentric billionaire? is it all media bait to get free advertising?

[Anonymous No.11872106]

>>11872100
Yes.

[Anonymous No.11872108]

>Rocket science? Oh, you mean rocket engineering? Haha

[Anonymous No.11872115]

Israel managed to sneak a launch in this evening, an Ofeq observation sat on their Shavit-2 launcher.

[Anonymous No.11872121]

>have to launch from some tropical shithole to go anywhere other than polar orbit
bros WTF this isnt fair......

[Anonymous No.11872122]

>>11872095
i wonder if this is going to cause problems with the shanghai factory

[Anonymous No.11872139]

>watch nasa perseverance rover video
>jpl news thot pronounces her own name like a stereotypical flamboyant socal spic
>stumbles over Bridenstine's name
it's all so tiresome

[Anonymous No.11872142]

>>11871670
I made a bigger version too.

[Anonymous No.11872164]

>>11872142
How the fuck do you get RSS to work in the new version of KSP?

[Anonymous No.11872177]

>>11872164
>new version of ksp
just play 1.8.1 like a normal human being

[Anonymous No.11872190]

>>11872164
You can't.

[Anonymous No.11872218]

>>11870193
Who is this?

[Anonymous No.11872238]

>>11872218
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgiMu8A3pi0&feature=emb_title this guy

[Anonymous No.11872239]

>>11870260
In Seveneves, the Russians make a whole bunch of dirt cheap inflatable orbital habitats called лyк (onion) because they are just layers of garbage bags with an airlock.
The first half of that book was really cool. Is there anything else similar in tone?

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Does anyone have any good details on the new EVA suits for Artemis?

[Anonymous No.11872269]

Rocket with deployable wings for landing when

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>>11872269
>deployable
no, but Blue Origin will have wings for supersonic and subsonic control during booster reentry

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>>11871920
Please talk about it.

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>>11872260
It looks gay and stupid.

[Anonymous No.11872294]

How hard it is to fly a plane normally with jet engines to 60k to 90k feet and then going full rocket engines to pierce the skies to space?

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>>11872294
easy
how hard is it to design a plane to carry your rocket

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>>11872290
how does her solar panels not get busted on the sides

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>>11872290
from the thumbnail I thought it was some kind of pole that cracked through a while wall and is right in the face of the viewer

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>>11872296
can't they strap a jet engine and a rocket engine together? or some type of hybrid engine?

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>>11872297
Retracted I'm sure

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>>11872299
no

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>>11872294
It's not about going up, it's about going sideways fast. Orbital speed is 8km/s. Even 1/10th of that in atmosphere will destroy any aircraft. So you'd need to use rockets for 90% of the time, during which you're carrying around useless jet engines.

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>>11871920
What do you do now?

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>>11872293
details, kemosabe
>>11872296
pic related

[Anonymous No.11872310]

>>11872304
Then launch upwards with rocket engines and land with jet engines

oh wait... I think I read this shit before

[Anonymous No.11872313]

>>11872310
>It's not about going up, it's about going sideways fast
>Launch upwards

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>>11872260
lmao

[Anonymous No.11872362]

>>11872359
Won't the exposed ring get gummed up with moon dust?

[Anonymous No.11872370]

>>11872313
You need to get up quickly to avoid air resistance for going fast sideways. The only way air launch makes sense is if the carrier plane can go supersonic at high altitude WITH the rocket. That means you're already past max Q at t0 and can use vacuum bells for your engines.

[Anonymous No.11872371]

>>11872362
probably
and the dark colors only mean the cooling system is going to need to work harder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QVeNY4HdNM

[Anonymous No.11872377]

>>11872359
So you'll be able to see the 10 pounds of caked-on whore makeup on the First Woman via livestream. Interesting...

[Anonymous No.11872400]

>>11872371
>woman in a space suit
>bridenstine is still taller than she is

[Anonymous No.11872405]

>just read about how X-33 got canceled
oh wow fucking dicks

[Anonymous No.11872412]

>>11871706

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>>11872412
I dub thee Lunar Dragon Balls.

[Anonymous No.11872432]

>>11872405
Nah it was a shit meme anyway

[Anonymous No.11872433]

>>11872432
not even a single flight test?

[Anonymous No.11872447]

NASA Gemini Aeiouvangelion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19j2DQ3s_yQ

[Anonymous No.11872452]

>>11872371
>those local students
The absolute state of America.

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>>11872359
man, how could they not put space boobs on the suit? they could have molded the chest switch panel into it and everything

[Anonymous No.11872476]

>>11872474
NASA like every government bureaucracy is full of fun hating women.

[Anonymous No.11872478]

>>11872474
all the suits are unisex and supposedly one size fits all(doubt)

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>>11872476
guess it's up to ol musky

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>>11871870
>"I have a a cousin that does graphic design" - the patch

[Anonymous No.11872496]

>>11871870
>Graphic design is my passion

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>>11872490
crazy good zoom on this camera, the only place it could be is inside the cupola

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>>11872504
is that a thrust pistol? that'd be scary as hell letting go knowing only the rope is there to keep you from drifting away. kinda makes my butthole clench just thinking about it.

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>>11872517
Also the cupola is in the center of the reflection, which is a clue.

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>>11872472
>the crumbling bay door seal at the bottom right

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>>11872535
haha dont worry about it bro

[Anonymous No.11872572]

>>11872559
>"Fuck you, I'm staying in the Daddy Chair!"

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>>11872519
yeah, some of the gemini spacewalks tested a cold gas thruster pistol

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[Anonymous No.11872623]

>elon selling short shorts for 69.420 dollars
.........

[Anonymous No.11872627]

>>11872623
>selling
sold, they're out

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[Anonymous No.11872632]

>>11872623
the entire concept of shorting proves modern finance is just jewish funny money with no legitimacy

[Anonymous No.11872634]

here's bob :)

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>>11872632
These are pants, anon.

[Anonymous No.11872650]

>>11872634
goddammit bob, stop humping the station

[Anonymous No.11872653]

>>11872645
>he's not fucking with stock jews
>he's selling actual pants
god fucking damn it elon

[Anonymous No.11872661]

>>11872623
>>11872632
>>11872645
kek

[Anonymous No.11872662]

aerospike engines....

[Anonymous No.11872663]

>>11872661
do you think sometimes nuts, bolts, or hardware falls off from the ISS?

[Anonymous No.11872667]

>>11871054
Canadarm

[Anonymous No.11872680]

>>11872663
idk about stuff falling from the iss, but astronauts drop things every once in awhile
on one of the last few EVAs, Chris Cassidy lost a wrist mirror and it just floated away

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>>11872663

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>>11871054

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>>11872142
Nice Gallente Shuttle.

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>>11872650
that's the shuttle if my eyes don't deceive me

[Anonymous No.11872704]

Do you think the aliens use our internet?

[Anonymous No.11872709]

>>11872704
Nah not a single chance, it's way too impossible. Don't even think about it.

[Anonymous No.11872710]

ok bros I dont know what the fuck i'm doing but I somehow ended up with this mercury-soyuz abomination

[Anonymous No.11872719]

>>11872704
If they do, we don't seem to be able to differentiate ayy traffic from human traffic in any measurable way.

[Anonymous No.11872720]

>>11872704
yes but they only post on /x/

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>>11872710
can you recreate the Gemini missions with Agena in ksp?

[Anonymous No.11872731]

>>11872719
Interesting thought.
Aliens, if you’re reading this, please reveal yourselves.

[Anonymous No.11872735]

I wonder how many times an ISS or MiR astronaut has thought he or she has heard knocking coming from outside, and maybe even seen something outside?

[Anonymous No.11872740]

>>11872653
He's absolutely fucking with them. He's been saying "short Tesla" without actually saying it for a week. The SEC is probably bulk buying whiskey and antacids.

[Anonymous No.11872742]

more bob for you bobendoug fans out there

[Anonymous No.11872753]

>>11872726
yes

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>>11872742
>"And in this reflection, we see a backwards Earth where left is right, right is left, and Henry Ford was wrong about the eternal Jew"
>"FOR GOD'S SAKE BOB YOU'RE LIVE STREAMING TO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS"

[Anonymous No.11872758]

>>11872627
Just bought a XL pair.

[Anonymous No.11872760]

>>11872753
nice
>>11872754
bob confirmed related to sam raimi?

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>>11872760
Someone shopped the /pol/ catalog into DM-2's cockpit display and it set off a whole series of greentexts. See
>>11869963

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>>11872760
>>11872742
>>11872726
why is fucking everything covered in fabric in space

[Anonymous No.11872777]

>>11872776
The ISS is actually a giant cyborg dragon and wears clothes.

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>>11872776
same reason wearing a black tshirt in the middle of summer is a bad idea

[Anonymous No.11872783]

>>11872777
shit

[Anonymous No.11872784]

>July 6, 2020
>SLS still isn't done

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>>11872784
I imagine that the SLS lack of progress reports are now read aloud by the Moonbase Alpha TTS to mock them.

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[Anonymous No.11872793]

Elon should send up an empty crew dragon. That is loaded with parts to convert it into a construction and tug craft.

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>>11872793
The first cargo Starship to Mars should contain a statue of George Washington, and a small rover to deposit it on the Martian soil and take pictures. The seething would be off the charts.

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>>11872799
It should be named Columbus.

The ass pain will be legendary.

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>>11872793
Draco thrusters are barely adequate to move the Dragon itself around. You'd want a full service module with big engines for tug work, closer to ICPS.

[Anonymous No.11872825]

propulsive capsule landings when bros....

[Anonymous No.11872831]

>>11872791

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>>11872831

[Anonymous No.11872845]

>NASA astronaut Dr. Serena Auñón-Chancellor listens as a student asks her a question about her experience on Expeditions 56 and 57 onboard the International Space Station (ISS) at Excel Academy Public Charter School, Monday, June 10, 2019 in Washington, DC. Auñón-Chancellor spent 197 days living and working onboard the ISS and contributed to hundreds of experiments in biology, biotechnology, physical science, and Earth science while there. She is also a doctor and started her career with NASA as a flight surgeon in 2006.

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>>11872825
At this point, probably Starship. Dragon was always an interim design.

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>>11872726
Look up the Bluedog mod pack

[Anonymous No.11872869]

>2001-07-01
>Astronaut James F. Reilly participated in the first ever space walk to egress from the International Space Station (ISS) by utilizing the newly-installed Joint Airlock Quest. The Joint Airlock is a pressurized flight element consisting of two cylindrical chambers attached end-to-end by a cornecting bulkhead and hatch. Once installed and activated, the ISS Airlock becomes the primary path for ISS space walk entry and departure for U.S. spacesuits, which are known as Extravehicular Mobility Units (EMUs).

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>>11872869
Spacewalking before Halo 2. Time flies.

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>>11872871
that's the truth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXjh7heyAmU

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>>11869431
Seeing the sun directly with nothing inbetween.
Kinda terrifying desu.

[Anonymous No.11872913]

>YAAAAAAAS KIIIIIING LMAO HES SELLING TESLA SHORTS FOR $69.42 XD HE IS SUCH A MEME GOD
Starship is gay, and anything it can do can be done by SLS but way cheaper. Why do you faggots keep buying into Elon’s PR stunts

[Anonymous No.11872915]

I should iron on transfer a falcon9 onto some white boxer briefs.

[Anonymous No.11872919]

>>11872793
>ywn live and work in a spacetug

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>>11872913
I have never seen a more AMERICAN post in this website. Peace be upon SLS, and peace be upon you, dear AMERICAN friend.

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>>11872913
Oldspace please

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>>11872923
Lmao I’ll be laughing when Starship is making 5 flights a year on a HUGE budget, and barely delivering anything to space. This board will be anti musk... just give it a few years. Oh and kiss your gay little “dear moon” fan boy project goodbye. That ain’t gonna happen

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>>11872936
bezos would you marry me?

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>>11869533
CO2 and other engine exhaust is much more potent high in the air than on the ground. So even if you use 100% synthetic fuels, it‘s still not without impact on climate.

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>>11872735

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>>11871852
Didn‘t Soviets blow up a shit ton of their ground crew once or even twice? Or was that all icbm related?

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>>11872923
Most americans here are musk fanboys.
And he was blatantly trolling btw.

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>>11873024
>he’s talking shit about star ship
>he’s blatant trolling
Hiveminded

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>>11873022
>A short circuit in the replaced main sequencer caused the second-stage engine to fire while being tested before launch. This detonated the first stage fuel tanks directly below, destroying the missile in an enormous explosion. Before seeking refuge, the camera operator remotely activated automatic cameras set around the launching pad that filmed the explosion in detail. People near the rocket were instantly incinerated; those farther away were burned to death or poisoned by the toxic fuel component vapors. Andrei Sakharov described many details: as soon as the engine fired, most of the personnel there ran to the perimeter, but were trapped inside the security fence and then engulfed in the fireball of burning fuel. The explosion incinerated or asphyxiated Nedelin, a top aide, the USSR's top missile-guidance designer, and over 70 other officers and engineers. Others died later of burns or poisoning.[3][2][4][1] Missile designer Mikhail Yangel and the test range commanding officer survived only because they had left to smoke a cigarette behind a bunker a few hundred metres away, but nonetheless suffered burn injuries.[3][5]
YOLO

[Anonymous No.11873055]

>nauka STILL hasnt launched

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>>11873055
What’s this

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>>11873061
SLS but roscomos

[Anonymous No.11873076]

EXPAND

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>>11873064
So, SLS launchin a orion capsule that docks to Nauka lands on the Berlin Brandenburg.
Will that ever be happening?

[Anonymous No.11873082]

inflate me daddy

[Anonymous No.11873131]

>tells sec to suck his cock
>calls out commie piles of shit
>calls noam chomsky a mind virus
>sells "shorts" for 69.420

This man is approaching five bullets to the rear cranium levels of dangerously based.

[Anonymous No.11873137]

>>11872100
He has looked behind the curtain and seen that a lot of things can just no longer touch him.
He is now actually leveraging his money and influence to do whatever the fuck he wants. And what he wants is to shitpost on twitter, shitpost in real life and to colonize Mars.

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>>11872776
kapton infused sheets, take some strain off the cooling system

[Anonymous No.11873146]

>accept juicy orbital rendezvous contract
>rush my new orbiter design into production and decide to do the rendezvous mission as its first flight
>get a new launchpad built and crew trained and two of them ready to go with a couple weeks before deadline
>go for launch, realize issue with the decouplers on launchpad that would have challengered the vehicle
>spend another week and half rolling them back to VAB and making modifications and rolling them out again
>finally launch for real, get both of them into orbit together
>realize my engine setup is completely inadequate for rendezvous maneuvers, since main engine only has 5 ignitions and no fine control and RCS thrusters aren't powerful enough and won't play nice with the autopilot
>while trying to deal with this, realize the capsules don't have CO2 scrubbers installed and both pilots are getting CO2 poisoning now
>try to emergency deorbit the one that's been up longest, but he dies before landing and other one dies while waiting
okay guys, don't rush your space program too hard

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>>11872913
Couldn't have said it better myself, get this man a cost-plus

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>>11873082
will we ever see an olympus module in orbit, or will bigelow go bust before then?

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>>11872299
SABRE engine has been in development for a while now. Made some neccessary breakthrough recently. Might still be a meme even if they work it out because it‘s a hydrogen engine and the proposed craft using these engines would be SSTO. Then again, there wouldn‘t be a point to this motor on anything that wasn‘t SSTO as you would just do normal air launch at that point I guess. Well ok, I guess you‘d need hypersonic air launch vehicle to match this. Whatever fuck it.
2 stage rockets are great for the time being. Just make those reusable.

[Anonymous No.11873158]

are the VASIMIR guys still a thing
I haven't herad anything about them since like 2015

[Anonymous No.11873161]

So if starship is plannign to reach mars, is it gonna go faster or will it still take 9 months?

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>>11873157
SABRE could possibly be viable with a methane engine because muh hydromeme fuel. Even so I struggle to see it being better than retro burning rockets, the benefit of air breathing for a few mach tiers is really not that great.

>>11873158
Its a meme until a sci fi tier power source is available. Even then, their equations are bullshit and are supremely optimistic about energy conversion rates. Its shit, grant farming NASA standard.

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>>11873161
I could see them squeezing it down to 3 months

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>>11873161
3-6 month transfer depending on how good they make the raptor and the amount of payload. Cargo will probably be 6 months transfer and crew around 4-5 months.

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>>11873167
How? Nuclear-powered?

[Anonymous No.11873178]

when the FUCK are we gonna start launching reactors into space again
lets drop another one on canada too

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>>11873169
A three month transfer would mean almost zero payload. I suppose you could maybe do it with a tiny crew complement on emergency rations and food/water fasting protocols but not for regular colonist transits.

[Anonymous No.11873180]

Nuclear fusion propulsion please

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>>11873161
As far as I remember the plan was to burn like hell on a time-optimized trajectory to do it quickly rather than efficiently. At least when crew is involved.

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>>11873183
You still need lots of food for a decent size crew delivery, it won't be light and no way will you be making a 3 month trajectory with 100 or even 50 people.

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>>11873179
>food/water fasting protocols

This is something I have thought about. If your elonauts have a little chub on then you could absolutely feed them on a 47/1 keto diet for half a year no problem. Would massively cut down on ration weight due to less food and having more dense food products.

[Anonymous No.11873200]

When will the SLS's Interim Cryogenic Universal Propulsion be ready?

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>>11873200
> SLS
> ready
kek

[Anonymous No.11873207]

>>11873200
Cancelled once chadship lands its first payload of executives sipping cocktails on the moon and sniggering at NASA niggernauts and their poop bags.

[Anonymous No.11873219]

nova when bros

[Anonymous No.11873221]

>>11873219
Well at least in terms of thrust that's basically Starship.

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>>11873200
Wasn't it ready for a long time as it's basicly a Delta IV upper stage?

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>>11873219
Cancelled along with von braun. If Elon doesn't make it in time you can kiss this planet goodbye.

[Anonymous No.11873226]

>>11873222
>He thinks it's a simple in rocketry as just strapping existing components together

Ohnononononono

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>>11873221
And in therms of costs it's SLS.
>>11873225
>If Elon doesn't make it in time you can kiss this planet goodbye.
Indeed, we're at the edge of a civil war and this year is getting worse by the month.

[Anonymous No.11873238]

>>11873226
>you can't just strap an engine and RCS thrusters to stainless steel tanks welded by mexicans

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>>11873227
>Indeed, we're at the edge of a civil war and this year is getting worse by the month.

I think we have a bit more time than most doomers think, the system has become extremely good at holding its rotten pile of shit together, but I give it 20 years on the absolute outside.

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>>11873238
That's true you can, but not if you are on a cost plus contract for those sweet congress SLS gibs in which case its 10 years and 15 billion dollars minimum.

[Anonymous No.11873250]

*pomf*

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>>11873243
>I think we have a bit more time than most doomers think
Depends on how you define the point of no return.
Sure, we do have quite a few years before it's all gone to shit, unless a civil war breaks out that is.
However we don't have much time untill the new development of a reuseable super heavy lift launch vehicle becomes unrealistic.

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new
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>>11873252
I'm talking in terms of an absolute fuckup collapse, I'm reasonably sure starship will fly before it starts to get bad, at which point hopefully the private sector will pump enough funds to gtfo urf before total collapse. But I'm not super optimistic desu, shits looking bad mang.

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>>11873247
>cost plus contract
I am still surprised that these contracts are still used.
Who on earth would be stupid enough to tell someone:
>I'll pay you x dollars, but if you need more money I'll pay that as well.
Rather they should make a contract that says:
>We give you x money after you delivered, if you take longer we pay x% less

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>>11873262
Its not stupidity or ignorance anon, its corruption. How many times do we have to tell people this?

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>>11872860
based! can you duplicate the geometry of the R7 family of launchers as well?

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>>11873154
hate to break it to you, but Bigelow HAS gone bust. He laid off his entire staff at the beginning of the COVID-19 shutdown.

[Anonymous No.11873371]

>>11872371
stupid design, should of kept it all white

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>>11873250
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>11873238
no problem, if your goal is to go 100m into the air and then immediately land.

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>>11872731
nice try anon, but we're not dumb enough to fall for that trick

[Anonymous No.11873772]

>>11869418
>nooo, not the shrubbery

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>>11872400
he's Big Jim

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>>11873157
the engine breakthrough could mean mach 3 fighter jets

[Anonymous No.11873981]

>>11871995
>>11872009
Guys, Earth's atmosphere is gonna render anything less massive than a few kilotons totally ineffective.

When attacking ground targets it makes the most sense to use loose piles of gravel held together by static electric charges and a thin refractory crust, which come down at a very steep angle above your target at at least 20 km/s or so. The ball of material holds together for a couple seconds as it comes down, getting it to within a few dozen kilometers of the surface before dynamic pressure causes the crust to shatter, which allows wind pressure to blow all the rubble apart, resulting in a very fast deceleration rate which corresponds to a very large and rapid release of heat energy, producing a massive shockwave akin to an airburst nuclear bomb. Obviously the bigger your rubble pile the wider the affected area and the worse the damage.

For hyper-velocity weapons in space you want to be shooting a dispenser that releases a columnar cloud of aluminum pellets, which will shred any wiffle shield of any number of layers and allow the dispenser itself to impact the inner hull of the target, causing massive damage akin to a better-than-chemical high explosive change pressed against the side of the object.

Due to the speeds involved and the energy released on impact, the material strength of pure tungsten vs a block of water ice really doesn't matter for how much damage is caused; the only affect of using a material like tungsten is the increased pressures produced by having a denser material striking at the same velocity. The performance of tungsten would be better than lead, for example, but probably not by enough to matter, and certainly not enough to offset the relative abundance and low cost of lead.