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11838063 No.11838063 [Reply] [Original]

Does it bother you that if you were to randomly generate an image, there is a non-zero probability that it would be a perfect copy of your graduation photo, the way you die, the future you 10 years from now, or anything imaginable?

Does the sheer fact that any possible scenario can be depicted mean that those scenarios already exist, in the same way every large number already exists even if we haven't discovered/used them yet?

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>>11838063
>Does it bother you that if you were to randomly generate an image, there is a non-zero probability that it would be a perfect copy of your graduation photo, the way you die, the future you 10 years from now, or anything imaginable?
No
>Does the sheer fact that any possible scenario can be depicted mean that those scenarios already exist, in the same way every large number already exists even if we haven't discovered/used them yet?
Yes

>> No.11838070

They surely don't exist, just theoretically

>> No.11838071

>>11838063
>Does the sheer fact that any possible scenario can be depicted mean that those scenarios already exist
this is the same as the infinite universe popsci bullshit
>if there are infinite universes, that means there's one where I'm a millionaire supermodel astronaut!
that's not how any of this works

>> No.11838072

>>11838070
Then don't we have to say the same thing about numbers? If so, It seems very weird to say that the number 1000 wouldn't exist until a civilization used it in some way.

If you don't agree that numbers have to be treated that way, then what is the important difference between numbers and some given combination of pixels?

>> No.11838073 [DELETED] 

>>11838067
I refuse to believe any living person is stupid enough to fall for this stuff
Also when are they going to start perma-shadowbanning all the astroturfing far right bots on this site

>> No.11838074

>>11838063
>Does the sheer fact that any possible scenario can be depicted mean that those scenarios already exist
So what you are asking about is the infinite universe theory? That theory is just popsci, and is more like asking about religion then science.

>> No.11838077 [DELETED] 

>>11838073
I agree it's stupid, but still related to science since they "teach" multiverse theory on the sci channels now. When they start banning crap like this is when this site becomes reddit2

>> No.11838078

>>11838074
>>11838071
This has nothing to do with infinite universes. You should have understood the context of the discussion when I compared them to numbers.

The way we say unnamed numbers exist, does that kind of existence also apply to unseen pictures?

>> No.11838081

>>11838063
Kinda does because I didn't have a graduation photo taken.

>> No.11838086

>>11838072
there is no difference between a number and a set of pixels, neither exists. there is a difference between a number and a physical object, say an lcd displaying those pixels.

>> No.11838089

>>11838072
They exist in theory, they just don't have any physical manifestation

>> No.11838092

>>11838078
what does it mean for a picture to exist? when we talk about numbers existing, we don't mean there's a physical representation of that number somewhere. but your example is about generating a physical image.
if you're asking does every m by n set of pixels in every color configuration "exist" in the same sense that every number exists, yes. but then it's just in theory.

>> No.11838095

>>11838092
Every picture's array exists in the set of all things

>> No.11838099

>>11838078
>The way we say unnamed numbers exist, does that kind of existence also apply to unseen pictures?
Again, this is more of a question of religion. To spell it out, I'd say they exist in that form to you if you believe they exist.

>> No.11838101

>>11838095
you're begging the question

>> No.11838105

>>11838063
Numbers aren’t real. All math is just an if then statement. If these axioms are true, then these theorems are true

>> No.11838131 [DELETED] 

>>11838067
>le master race btw oy vey helpless against da j00z

>> No.11838157 [DELETED] 

>>11838131
>>11838073
>literal facts in your face
>refusing to read it

>> No.11839441 [DELETED] 

>>11838157
Go back to /x/, and then to /pol/.

>> No.11839452 [DELETED] 

>>11838073
Any anon's only enemy is the jannies.

>> No.11839455

>infinite set of images which show one mote of dust retracting light differently depending on it's angle while drifting in the air, caught in a picture of me dying at 100yo from a heart attack with a viagra fed cock deep in pussy
>similar infinitesemially different pictures exist for other holes

>> No.11839558

>>11838063
possible scenario exists as an possibility, surely you can get that. I think the way you word it creates the question. Numbers exist in a sense that given the rules we use we could be sure to make sense of the number. In the same way possible scenario exists in a way that it would make sense under the rules of human understanding for such state of affairs exist. However, not every representation by random pixels would make such sense. The existence of possible scenarios is unaffected by the possibility of representing it by pixels.

>> No.11839626

>>11838063
>No.
Randomness has given me the delusions that I need.

>> No.11839648

>>11838063
I unironically think that's a great idea, Chris. Reality is non-computable.

>> No.11839652

>>11838063
Based. Asking the real questions.

>> No.11839659

>>11838063
It is that philosophy that allows one to do, literally almost anything.