Why are there people on /sci/ that think they know

[Anonymous No.11821017]

more than the man who discovered the double helix structure?

[Anonymous No.11821046]

He's barely alive lmao. His brain clearly isn't working as well as it used to.

[Anonymous No.11821057]

Because knowing the structure of a DNA molecule is irrelevant to identifying the origins of a particular trait as environmental or genetic.

[Anonymous No.11821118]

My god he's going to drop dead at any moment

[Anonymous No.11821131]

>>11821017
idk. why does a crippled mathematician think they know more about evolution and extinction than a zoologist?

[Anonymous No.11821144]

>>11821017
Oh shit a scientist is pointing out that black people are dumb, we need to #shutdownstem quick before people find out that we are using a large group of idiots to control everyone else.

[Anonymous No.11821172]

>>11821131
??????

[Anonymous No.11821175]

everybody knows niggers are retarded

[Anonymous No.11821194]

>>11821175
Baste

[Anonymous No.11821227]

>>11821175
Based, but I suggest you delete your post. I was banned for 3 days for saying the n word for """racism""'.

[Anonymous No.11821240]

>>11821017
We live in at a time where politics dictate science, we're on our way into another dark age. Political correctness is the rot of our society, and it stops many important discussions that need to happen if we should wish to develop our society any further. This is the catholicism of our time, he just said the earth revolves around the sun, and we excommunicated him because of it.

[Anonymous No.11821242]

>>11821227
Racism has always been against global rule 3b you dumb tourist. Just because you can say the nigger word on your containment board doesn't mean the whole website is yours to post your offtopic racebait on.

[Anonymous No.11821306]

>>11821242
Stating facts cannot be racist, on average niggers have lower iq than whites. This is a science board, if jannies (or anyone else for that matter) disagree with honorable James Watson, who discovered the double helix then jannies are dumb idiots.

[Anonymous No.11821313]

>>11821306
>Stating facts cannot be racist, on average niggers have lower iq than whites.
word choice anon

[Anonymous No.11821314]

>>11821227
nigger

[Anonymous No.11821319]

>>11821313
Ok, let me correct that, EL NEGROES, I am spanish and can't help it.

[Anonymous No.11821474]

>>11821017
because watson is a nigger

[Anonymous No.11821605]

>>11821017
>it's genetic
Sauce?
>Wahh all our policies assume nigs are equal
Bring back Apartheid and Jim Crow?

>>11821306
See above, he's retarded who goes way out of his depth.

[Anonymous No.11821635]

>>11821605
>Sauce?
The fact that average IQ in africa and USA is almost the same among blacks, and so it couldn't be the availability of education causing the difference?

[Anonymous No.11821646]

>>11821017
Atiyah also claimed to have proved the Riemann Hypothesis; being good at what you do does not make you immune to being wrong, especially when you are way past your intellectual prime

[Anonymous No.11821651]

>>11821646
>way past your intellectual prime
he had held the same beliefs even during his prime

[Anonymous No.11821697]

>>11821017

That's like asking why do people think they know more than the man who discovered germ theory. Discovery of a phenomen does not equate to full understanding of said phenomenon. Knowledge never stops progressing and even theories/viewpoints from worshipped idols of science like Einstein is becoming outdated trash.

[Anonymous No.11821698]

>>11821635
That's not a sauce, and wrong

[Anonymous No.11821708]

>>11821698
>that's not a sauce
so you're looking for an argument from authority? well that's a logical fallacy

[Anonymous No.11821716]

If he'd just said that IQ is genetic he'd have been fine. It's only once people state the obvious that there are differences between the average IQ of different groups that people lose their minds.

People are afraid of the consequences of accepting that reality.

[Anonymous No.11821725]

>>11821646
Facts don't care about your feelings, why would they give a flying fuck about whether you're in your "prime" or not?

[Anonymous No.11821728]

>>11821017
>he did something cool once so now he can't be wrong ever
not how science works, anon

[Anonymous No.11821766]

hot damn that be a low IQ for equatorial guinea

[Anonymous No.11821774]

>>11821728
You make the mistake of thinking money = education and outcome when nothing could be further from the truth. Knowledge is literally merely words and we've given them the same shit we know. It's like passing on a recipe and we've also given them all the ingredients to boot because we feel bad for them. Difference is we end up with a cake instead of inedible mush and rape.

[Anonymous No.11821781]

>>11821774
Completely irrelevant to the post you're replying to, you're just ranting. I didn't even say anything about IQ.

Appealing to some dude's opinion with
>how can you disagree with him don't you see he has more street cred than you
is quite literally an anti-scientific stance.

[Anonymous No.11821786]

>>11821716

Except that's not actually true, his main problem was over reaching in the idea that IQ determines economic destiny. Which isn't accurate because economics (especially at the global level) is more about connections, philosophy, resource investment and geopolitics.

North Korea for example is worse off than Nigeria economically. This is despite having a 15-20 point IQ advantage over them. Why do you think that is? It's not because they are dumber than them it's because their geopolitics have put them on the fringe. So now despite their IQ average the majority of them are living no better than the bulk of sub-saharan Africans that Watson shits on.

[Anonymous No.11821798]

>>11821017
He looks like he's about to die during the interview.

[Anonymous No.11821803]

>>11821798
You can see him forcefully willing his heart to keep beating around 9 seconds in

[Anonymous No.11821810]

>>11821017
imagine if this brainlet understood science is an outlier field and that prejudicing against any outlier is retarded

[Anonymous No.11821820]

correlation still isn't causation

you really think [war torn shit hole african country]'s average IQ is more to do with genetics than needing to arm yourself at 16 to avoid the next religious genocide, or joining the work force at 14 because school is seen as something for the rich and powerful? or that there aren't even schools to go to even if you wanted to?

[Anonymous No.11821828]

>>11821820
IQ is what put them in those positions. And IQ is independent of socio-economic factors - it's genetic.

[Anonymous No.11821839]

>>11821828
How do you cope with the proven effect of schooling on IQ?

[Anonymous No.11821847]

>>11821839
correlation isn't causation. What if they are continuing to go to school because they don't have a retarded IQ? and those with retarded IQ stop going to school?

Blacks having both socio-economic and institutional advantages over whites for half a century (disproportionate welfare connsumption, affirmative action, diversity quotas, etc.) and still being an average of 15 IQ points behind whites is pretty conclusive on the inelasticity of intelligence.

[Anonymous No.11821849]

>>11821828

Not him but explain how East Asians trailed behind Europe for centuries despite having higher IQ averages?

Protip: You can't without socioeconomic factors being involved. Just having the wrong philosophy can set you back. Constant warfare can do even worse.

[Anonymous No.11821850]

>>11821839
it is almost like both nature and nurture are important

[Anonymous No.11821856]

>>11821847
>Blacks having both socio-economic and institutional advantages over whites
simply an epic post right here my good sir

[Anonymous No.11821861]

>>11821786
>North Korea for example

Quite an extreme example. North Korea is an authoritarian dictatorship of the worst kind. So it is an outlier and does not disprove the importance of IQ.

[Anonymous No.11821863]

>>11821847
You are right, correlation (race and IQ) isn't causation (schooling objectively raises your IQ).

>Blacks having both socio-economic and institutional advantages over whites for half a century
For your sake I'll assume this is bait and that you aren't the lowest IQ poster on the entire website

[Anonymous No.11821867]

>>11821017
>Discovered

[Anonymous No.11821873]

>>11821856
>>11821863
this is socio-economic advantage

[Anonymous No.11821884]

>>11821873
>collecting welfare is "socio-economic advantage"

[Anonymous No.11821885]

>>11821849
Intelligence is a necessary but insufficient factor in producing tech and advances in civilization. The "great man theory" of history is right. Advancements are not made in slow, incremental steps as the new-age thought would have us believe, it is made by geniuses. The western world has the highest number of geniuses (and always had) per capita of any group. The reason for this is temperament (set by genes), and thus culture which is an emergent property of temperament when a group of people get together. Geniuses are -- by their definition -- disagreeable and highly intelligent. A civilization needs to be able to tolerate the whacky ways of a genius who deviates from societal norms. The West has such a culture, the east does not. Asians forces conformity on everyone which restricts the emergence and flourishing of geniuses to do great things. The west either supports or tolerates these types which lead to major advancements.

tl;dr Asians don't tolerate genius because it is born from non-conformity, Europeans do

[Anonymous No.11821899]

>>11821873
None of this is worth having parents who faced racism so strong it was even in law causing them to teach their kids to hate the white man and his schools and his police and his big words like "social mobility"

[Anonymous No.11821900]

>>11821884
once those basic necessities are sorted, they'd have more comfort and freedom to do what they want with their time than anyone else

[Anonymous No.11821906]

>>11821017
Race has been debunked. Go back to /pol/. Follow your leader

[Anonymous No.11821911]

>>11821847

>Blacks having both socio-economic and institutional advantages over whites for half a century

Ah so you're one of those retards who thinks 50 years of gimmie/education can overtake over 400 years being the literal lowest caste where you're eating scraps, often denied property, barred from reading and patent rights for business.

>But muh east Asians though

Look up Rangaku and Boxer Indemnity Scholarships. The Japanese were allowed to learn from the Dutch since 1639 meanwhile at the same time Slavery in the US just officially became legal. Meanwhile China in 1908 was allowed to send their citizens to attend white US colleges for free while Blacks had to attend historically black colleges most of which hadn't received proper accreditation from their State yet.

[Anonymous No.11821915]

>>11821884
It is, though. As long as you're viewing your life as a biological entity that wants to continue to exist and procreate, and not just a consumer unit.

[Anonymous No.11821922]

>>11821900
Glad to hear you're a UBI supporter. Most far-right tards aren't.

>they'd have more comfort
You honestly think people living in a gang-run Chicago slum have more comfortable lives than you do?

[Anonymous No.11821923]

>>11821911
Why don't blacks just agitate for independence and build up like the Chinese and Japanese did? Why try to gain more dependence on the remnants of the white race, out of the races?

[Anonymous No.11821931]

>>11821306
>Stating facts cannot be racist,
They absolutely can and are legally racist in Canada. You be punished for stating facts if the Human Rights Tribunal (like a court made of up appointed people, but without a lot of the legal baggage of a normal court) finds that those facts might be used to "spread or incite hatred or negative stereotypes".

[Anonymous No.11821934]

>>11821906
That idiocy is only accepted within a very narrow niche of western academic dogma, none of which holds up to any sincere scrutiny

[Anonymous No.11821941]

>>11821934
Science is science. Why isn't China or India or Iran or Japan or any other place in the world with modern universities /pol/-posting? Because race isn't real. Get over it. Nationalism is dead, just like your leader.

[Anonymous No.11821958]

>>11821923

Because US blacks were sold out by their own people. There's a good reason why the Liberia affair wasn't fully realized. There's a trust issue going on where you deal with devil you know vs the devil you don't. The locals in the neighboring countries aren't just going to readily welcome these literal who's far removed from Africa for centuries back into the fold. Most US blacks don't even know their ancestral country or tribe they came from since the Atlantic slave trade was more a potluck than an organized thoroughfare.

[Anonymous No.11821973]

>>11821941
You really going to cite the Asians as being enlightened non-racists?

[Anonymous No.11821993]

>>11821958
So it falls on white people to be their keepers forever because whites were the only ones involved who kept records? I don't feel like I have a racial debt to any other race. The black race and it's diaspora should have 100% self determination, just like the white race should. Both races being ruled by Jews has been a disaster for each over the last 60 years.

We're not anyone else's keeper, or uplifter, or big brother.

[Anonymous No.11822001]

>>11821708
Underage retard, that's not what an argument from authority is

[Anonymous No.11822036]

>>11821941
>race isn't real

When we talk about race you need to understand that we're talking about a classification with a high degree of arbitrariety. We're taking a big chunk of data, all humans, that can be classified according to genetic distancing(the choice of metric will create different genetic maps, so the metric space choice by itself yelds arbitrariety). After we create a metric space with the chosen genetic distance function we than need to classify clusters of members according to arbitrary definitions, we can use computers for this(Google community detection in graphs to understand better). Of course that the parameters used by the computer will be all arbitrary like "how many clusters do you want", "what is the maximum diatance allowed between two members of a cluster" and so on.

When you do basic cluster analysis in the human genome, using the colors to model clusters you'll get a picture like the one here. The metric chosen is arbitrary, the number of "races" is arbitrary, but once you plug the algorithim you can actually get results that match human intuitive notions of race.

You can chalk all this effort out because of the arbitrary nature of clustering, but by the same token you could throw any grouling out. Why classify red and pink as different colors if they're connected in a continuum? Why classify males and females if we have people with extreme genotipic defects like xxy or xyy?

You need to understand that there is no serious discussion about the reality of genetic diferences, it's just a debate about the arbitrariety of clustering. Saying "that black race isn't real" is just like saying "the color red isn't real", the classification of a cluster of frequencies as "red" in the color spectrum is arbitrary, still it is useful.

[Anonymous No.11822054]

>>11821993

Except this isn't about white people this is about White Americans. Reminder that the British and other European countries not only wind down slavery before the US but also was willing to restore land to the Native Americans. White Americans went apeshit and went to war over it. Then they went into a second war again in part because of slavery.

[Anonymous No.11822087]

>>11822054
>Except this isn't about white people this is about White Americans
No it isn't

[Anonymous No.11822092]

>>11821993
Pay compensation for 400 years of slavery and they can leave. You won't.

[Anonymous No.11822103]

>>11822092
>Pay yet even more money than we already do and schlomo will stop using them as a weapon and they'll go away. It'll work for sure this time
I have doubts

[Anonymous No.11822112]

>>11822054
>Americans
Western Europe's major cities are up in flames, too. Everywhere that has English language media and the people that were raised on it is in line. States are culturally meaningless in the age of global media.

[Anonymous No.11822117]

>>11821605
>Sauce?
poor whites are smarter than rich blacks

[Anonymous No.11822129]

>>11821873
As a poorfag that was raised with the aid of public assistance, I can say that that post is mostly bullshit. My family did pay for phone bills, utility bills, property taxes did affect you as rent would go up, daycares are based on lotteries since it is impossible to accommodate every child, and taxes are still paid through other avenues that are not income tax. And this is in California btw, the most “Commie” state. Life sucks in other ways such as shit high schools with no college prep, inflation with no rise in wages, crime ridden environments, parents can’t help you since they are working or too uneducated, and politicians use you as pawns.

Not saying that, “my life is so hard please give me more help”, but it isn’t the neet paradise that that post insinuates. Thankfully, I’m no longer on public assistance.

[Anonymous No.11822132]

>>11822112
>Western Europe's major cities are up in flames, too

That's a bit exaggerated don't you think

[Anonymous No.11822134]

>>11821242
>>11821227
Nigger.

[Anonymous No.11822141]

>>11821884
But more welfare is the solution...

[Anonymous No.11822142]

>>11821227
>"""racism"""
It's literally racist though. Own up to it at least

[Anonymous No.11822145]

>>11821017
Blacks are dumber than whites right now this is undeniable. Which is why we need vouchers. Put the smart blacks in the good schools. Integrate them into society and let the dumb ones kill each other off. Throw them in prison if they endanger the smart blacks. Within a few generations blacks will rise to white IQ levels just as they were between 1860 and 1960. Only after affirmative action, welfare, minimum wage, and abortion did blacks stop their progress in America.
T. Thomas Sowell, Larry Elder, and Walter E. Williams

[Anonymous No.11822151]

>>11822145
>watches YouTube recommendations once

[Anonymous No.11822162]

>molecular biologist and zoologist talking about psychology and anthropology
why is it so hard for some people to accept quantitative genetics? literally all studies support it.

[Anonymous No.11822173]

>>11822145
Why not just give them autonomy and no longer try to "uplift" them? Why continuously tie the fate of whites to blacks?
If you have an itch to do race-building, take a shot at something local. How about white suicide rates?

[Anonymous No.11822182]

>>11822173
How about we just stop caring about race. Pretend they are white.

[Anonymous No.11822184]

>>11822173
Cuz white people are nosy and have a savior complex. Desegregation was a mistake.

[Anonymous No.11822279]

>>11822182
>All media considers race
>All political campaigns consider race
>All advertising considers race
>Predators from the average black thug to Harvey Weinstein who intentionally only picked white gentile women and insisted on talking about his "Jewish cock" consider race
>China reaches out to diaspora to recruit spies using racial solitary as one of the appeals
>Tens of thousands of white UK girls systematically raped over race for decades. Still happening
>Western military organizations even make exceptions for black recruits shaving because of the racial characteristics of mixed race amerimutt facial hair causing problems
>Have mandatory government classes that revolve around considering race and gender when making policy

>"How about we just stop caring about race"
I'd love nothing more. Let's separate so we don't have to be burdened with all this multi-racial failed experiment and it's many issues.

[Anonymous No.11822288]

>>11821847
>Blacks having both socio-economic and institutional advantages over whites for half a century

I wish that were true.

[Anonymous No.11822292]

>>11822036
>Race is not a biologically meaningful category. Biological variation—whether it be genetic or in our physical traits—may be used socially and politically for categorizing people (e.g. “white”, “black”, “Hispanic”) but does not actually align with “pure” or discrete groups

[Anonymous No.11822295]

>>11822173
Yes they need autonomy. That's why I said stop welfare and abortion. But I don't want segregation because we can mutually benefit. And at the end of the day they are equal under God which is what America is founded on.

[Anonymous No.11822300]

>>11822151
At least I pay attention, not everything on YouTube is correct of course. But, you can go read thomas sowell's books. They are on lib gen. His conclusions are accurate.

[Anonymous No.11822317]

>>11822295
>Yes they need autonomy.
>That's why I said stop welfare and abortion (telling them what laws to have)
>But I don't want segregation
What does autonomy even mean, then?

>And at the end of the day they are equal under God which is what America is founded on.
Look up the first act of congress and ctrl+f "white."
I don't give a shit about America or whatever absurd ideas that float around about it's founding mythology either way, though. A state is just a tool. Your people are your most valuable possession.
Getting involved in the slave trade was a mistake of the rich super elite whites and their Jewish bankers, and all normal whites have been paying for it with nothing but burdens for centuries because of it.

[Anonymous No.11822394]

>>11821227
nigger

[Anonymous No.11822395]

>>11822295
The right to choose abortion is autonomy

[Anonymous No.11822404]

>>11821849
>Not him but explain how East Asians trailed behind Europe for centuries despite having higher IQ averages?
Asians have a personality problem.

[Anonymous No.11822412]

>>11821017

[Anonymous No.11822413]

>>11822404
Did they fix that or something?

[Anonymous No.11822430]

>>11822054
>Except this isn't about white people this is about White Americans

[Anonymous No.11822431]

>>11822292
>does not actually align with “pure” or discrete groups
That was never an issue in other species.

[Anonymous No.11822433]

>>11821017

The fact that they never say he is actually wrong says it all

[Anonymous No.11822442]

>>11821786
this is a very low IQ post

[Anonymous No.11822448]

>>11821849
>Not him but explain how East Asians trailed behind Europe for centuries despite having higher IQ averages?
>Protip: You can't without socioeconomic factors being involved. Just having the wrong philosophy can set you back. Constant warfare can do even worse.
I'd say China and Japan trailed behind Europe after 1700 mostly for lack of constant warfare. They united under strong states, and had no reason to change things.

[Anonymous No.11822453]

>>11821911
>Ah so you're one of those retards who thinks 50 years of gimmie/education can overtake over 400 years being the literal lowest caste where you're eating scraps, often denied property, barred from reading and patent rights for business.
Millions of jewish orphans rebounded a single generation after the holocaust
Same with the Irish and the famine

[Anonymous No.11822464]

>>11822448
Fucking wot? Please please get a non-Eurocentric history lesson.

[Anonymous No.11822469]

>>11822453
Hell, even Arabs can run a semi-functional society despite the west aggressively trying to destabilize them

[Anonymous No.11822476]

>>11822453
The Japanese rebounded extremely well after WWII

[Anonymous No.11822488]

>>11822448
Holy hell, imagine thinking Asia as peaceful

[Anonymous No.11822536]

>>11822453
>The holocaust
Never happened

[Anonymous No.11822555]

>>11821057
He literally ran a genetics institute

[Anonymous No.11822576]

>>11821820
Most Asian countries industrialized only relatively recently, at which point they had dogshit education. Nowadays they have caught up and they are testing higher than whites. Are they just "schooled" better or does evolution actually happen in the brain too? What makes you state the case for "equal" anyway?

[Anonymous No.11822599]

>>11822555
Then there's an obvious bias to his perspective.

[Anonymous No.11822628]

>>11822453

Famine and Holocaust are events that culls the population. Slavery does exact opposite in that you grow a low caste for labor without advertently or inadvertently culling for the best. For example the only known African human calculator was a slave in the US that never had kids (that we know of). That's a legitimate loss from genome perspective. Then you compound that with bad health practices like low tier diet to continue generation after generation until it yields these underlying health issues you see today with US blacks.

It would be more accurate to compare the situation with US blacks to Indias caste system. Light skin blacks and blacks who were filter through military testing are at the top (Brahmin equivalents) while blacks who were stuck in the deep south are at the bottom (Sudra and Untouchables). With everyone else in the middle.

[Anonymous No.11822645]

>>11821227
>>11821605
>>11821646
>>11821697
>>11821786
>>11821810
>>11821820
>>11821839
>>11821906
>>11822412
>>11822599
Nigger

[Anonymous No.11822650]

>>11822645
Nigger

[Anonymous No.11822653]

>>11822645
>>11822650
Niggers

[Anonymous No.11822655]

>>11822645

[Anonymous No.11822661]

>>11822655
Nigger>>11822653
>>11822650
>>11822655
>>11822655
>>11822655

[Anonymous No.11822667]

>>11821017
They're 18-20. They don't know anything about anything, and haven't even become aware of it yet.

[Anonymous No.11822680]

>>11822628

> slavery doesnt cull the population

What. Slaves dont have kids. I think US slavery was the only instance of a positive fertility slave population. Slavery through out history has generally been free men captured and worked until they died with no offspring in the middle. Its the ultimate cull.

[Anonymous No.11822716]

>>11822680

>Slavery through out history has generally been free men captured and worked until they died with no offspring in the middle.

Outside Ottoman slave trade and the Chinese nobility servants most other slavery events allowed Slaves to have families. Which is why slavery could maintain itself as a multi-generational practice during non war times.

[Anonymous No.11822740]

>>11822716

Can you name some examples of positive fertility slaves, except for the case of the United States?

I dont think Roman slaves had children, for example.

I am not an expert in this, but given the 4 or 5 examples we have so far, its like 4:1 no-fertility:fertility.

[Anonymous No.11822749]

this board has a serious moderation problem. just go to any thread and ctrl+f race, IQ, blacks, whites, niggers, etc and i am sure more than half of the currently active threads turn into race and iq or politics and that sort of shit. if the discussion in those threads was scientific then it wouldn't be a problem but almost all of these discussions are politics, sociology and psychology which have nothing to do with science and math.
if this website had slobby moderation on all boards then it wouldn't be a problem but other boards like /lgbt/ /k/ /biz/ etc have a moderation tighter than a nuns cunt.
either ban everything not related to science or math or create a race general.
>inb4 psychology is science
just find me a single university that considers psychology to be science and not humanities, i'll wait

[Anonymous No.11822762]

>>11821017
Literally every anti racist argument is backed by moral narcissism(IM A GOOD PERSON!) not logic and reason. If you are a scientist you should have no issue categorizing and generalizing genetic divisions of humans like you do to nonhuman animals. The fact scientist are essentially banned from doing this shows the extent of marxist insanity in western academics.

[Anonymous No.11822764]

>>11821867
>Literally a women reparations who

When will this meme end?

[Anonymous No.11822782]

>>11822740

Roman slaves had kids but they also allowed manumission for their slaves. That way it allowed patron/clients relationships to continue afterwards. You also had the Australia blackbird slavery that started off as indentured servitude.

[Anonymous No.11822793]

>>11821017
I didn't know /sci/ was so full of SJW
Why cant you accept the black race has a lot of degeneration in its gene pool? Latinos as well.
There is a correlation between culture and gene pool, a more degenerated culture will looking for the worst traits, this at the end influence the culture again and so on.
Black people and latinos do have lower IQ because they were evolved under such condition in which they didn't develop good traits.
Its so simple, why many of you deny that fact? This will make these races to stay in the shitty levels they are at.
Btw, I'm latino, and the only good reference I have for society and politics is the "white" world.

[Anonymous No.11822854]

>>11822782

> Roman slaves had kids but they also allowed manumission for their slaves.

Yeah I have heard about that, but how often did that really happen?

I just googled up a bit, and one blog article was suggesting all slaves eventually got manumission. But I just downloaded a great big article on roman slave fertility, and it points out that:

- Roman slaves were overwelmingly male (since they were all acquired by conquest).
- Women were a majority of manumissions.

I think its statistically incompatible that 1 manumission was common, that 2 female slaves were rare, and that 3 women comprised a majority of manumissions.

Either way, the roman slave fertility article pegs Roman fertility overall at 2.5 kids, and female slave fertility at <1. So, it seems like whatever way it happens, the people who entered into Roman society as slaves didnt really leave behind a genetic legacy.

[Anonymous No.11822858]

>>11822749
>just find me a single university
Credentialist

[Anonymous No.11822868]

>>11822749
>/lgbt/
they condone and promote schizophrenic body dysmorphia and grooming minors lol and /k/ has tight moderation because they talk about lethal weapons all day. /biz/ doesn’t have tight moderation and when it does its to prevent scamming

[Anonymous No.11822891]

>>11821046
He's right you know.

[Anonymous No.11822908]

>>11822182
>Pretend they are white

Kek. That would never happen.

[Anonymous No.11822912]

No one takes science seriously. Right now we are headed towards multiple great filters from climate change, to peak oil/resources, to demographic/overpopulation issues, etc. Why not just stop believing in genetics and evolution as well. It's just one more thing to add to the pile.

[Anonymous No.11822924]

>>11822793
Stfu subhuman you will never be like us stay in your shithole

[Anonymous No.11822936]

he says its genetic. what biology decides iq?

[Anonymous No.11822949]

>>11822936
External, environmental conditions can "force" to develop intelligence. Also can force to develop society.
People trying to find solutions for their daily issues.
A harsh environmental condition would force people to behave and find solutions, so these kind of communities would survive and progress, while others would be extinguished.

[Anonymous No.11822952]

>>11822949
>can "force" to develop intelligence.
They can. But are we sure they did for Europeans and Asians? How do we know?

[Anonymous No.11822960]

>>11822142
>It's literally racist though
How is a word racist? It's just a word.

[Anonymous No.11823036]

>>11822868
it doesn't matter for me what they are saying as long as its board topic related. mention anything non board topic related on /k/ or /biz/ and you will always get a warning or a ban even if it's a simple post with no replies. post a fucking different 2d drawing on the anime boards and your post will be deleted. why isn't that the case here?

[Anonymous No.11823165]

>>11822936

I dont know if theres a good answer, but it seems like it comes down to some kind of general brain health. Neurons doing their thing quicker and more efficiently. Intelligence seems to derive from just a better mental engine running in your head.

There are two reasons to suspect this:
- high IQ people generally seem to be healthier, regardless as to their life style or their diet. Innate healthiness seems to correlate with innate intelligence.

- Intelligence is grealty polygenic. Its not like there is one smarty pants gene that makes you smart, rather many many genes impact your intelligence to a small degree. Genes generally dont do just one thing. For example, a gene might change how your stomache works, but then it also effects your sleep, and a million other things. Polygenic traits tend to be correlated with other positive traits in order to avoid biological tradeoffs.

[Anonymous No.11823275]

>>11823165
>Intelligence is grealty polygenic
Partially wrong. It's actually not as polygenic as you might think, to the point where there's detectable intelligence differences between mice who differ by only a single gene.

[Anonymous No.11823293]

>>11822661
>>11822653
>>11822650
>>11822645
>>11822134
Based and niggerpilled.

[Anonymous No.11823298]

>>11823293
N I G G E R

[Anonymous No.11823324]

>>11823275

The existence of a single gene mattering a lot doesnt mean that overall variance isnt due largely to many genes.

Like, if there was one gene that made it impossible to gain fat, then, its not like that gene actually matters to weight gain generally, even if it might matter a whole lot to the few people who have that gene.

Also, dude its mice. Thats not human DNA. You cant make cross species assumptions like that.

[Anonymous No.11823325]

>>11822749
I don't think it's so much a moderation problem as a lack of science and math threads problem. Science threads aren't being killed (they tend to stay in the top 10), they just mostly don't exist.

[Anonymous No.11823341]

>>11823275
>>11823324
That aside, on what do you base your idea that intelligence is "highly" polygenic ?

[Anonymous No.11823368]

>>11823341

I think its just a finding of intelligence research. I dont have a specific "I read it here" comment, just something I have picked up over the years of being interested in genes and intelligence. I recall a specific claim, that a surprisingly large chunk of our DNA matters to intelligence, like even a majority of our genes impact intelligence in a small way. Very much unlike skin color, or facial features, which come down to double digits of genes.

I just searched google scholar to check myself and make sure Im not BSing you. The top results for "intelligence polygenic" say intelligence is highly polygenic.

> The reason why this and other GWAS analyses of complex diseases and traits are unable to detect strong individual signals—and why there has been much concern about the ‘missing heritability’40—is probably because the individual effects of common SNPs are too small to pass the stringent genome-wide significance level. This suggests that human intelligence and perhaps other complex traits are highly polygenic

AKA, genes matter a lot, but since we couldnt find an effect by any single gene many genes must matter.

>Our results suggest that childhood intelligence is heritable and highly polygenic. Any attempt to identify individual genetic variants requires a larger sample size than the current study, consistent with other quantitative traits in human populations, including height,25 BMI,26, 27 lipids,12 blood pressure28 and platelet count.29

Same thing. The researchers look at complete genomes, found genes matter a lot to intelligence, but couldnt find individual genes that made an outstanding difference, so the conclusion therefore is that many many genes have similarly small effect.

[Anonymous No.11823390]

>>11823324
Mice models are the best we have, and for SNPs it's actually really easy to tell if mice and humans share the same biochemical pathway and if the gene does the same thing in humans. Yes, you can make cross-species assumptions. I don't know why you think SNPs wouldn't matter? An SNP is reason why some people can digest lactose in adulthood, singular gene mutations can cause physical deformities or make superhumans. Of course, the effect sizes of any SNPs are based on what we measured.

[Anonymous No.11823426]

>>11823390

Human variation is such, that, if you did a big study on a bunch of asians, looking at their genome, and their intelligence, etc, I would say "Okay, but do the conclusions hold true for non-asians?". They often dont; there is enough genetic diversity within human beings that you cant generalize like that.

So you are going to look at some mice. Who share a common ancestor with us 75 million years ago, who have a completely different set of chromosomes, and think you can infer something really meaningful about human intelligence based off mouse biology?

Can you think of any mouse study that discovered anything really important about human biology? I actually dont know of any.

[Anonymous No.11823432]

>>11823368
hm okay thx.

[Anonymous No.11823437]

>>11823390

cont from >>11823426

Also, worth pointing out, that mice are not intelligent. They dont possess the genotype, or phenotype you are taking to learn about.

[Anonymous No.11823449]

>>11823426
The one I know of was the gene the chinese researcher edited twin with a few years back. His main goal was to make them immune to HIV, but there were a lot of researchers who came out saying he probably changed their cognition. In the original study the HIV immunity gene also downregulated brain inflammatory pathways, they found mice were better at problem solving. It also controlled the same pathway in humans.

Believe it or not, most biochemical pathways are highly conserved between species, at least within the animal kingdom. Differing pathways are generally the minority.

[Anonymous No.11824561]

even 4chan will ban you for "racism" when you state facts

[Anonymous No.11824642]

>>11821017
The old man who invented the transistor agrees too.
https://youtu.be/7JOIqkh2ms8
Yeah he got btfo on this show but still. Old men who invented stuff are always right.

[Anonymous No.11824643]

>>11823432
>Time to start a new thread and forget everything I just learned

[Anonymous No.11824799]

>>11824642
>Old men who invented stuff are always right.
even the man who invented the MOSFET transistor?

[Anonymous No.11824909]

>>11823449
>Believe it or not, most biochemical pathways are highly conserved between species, at least within the animal kingdom. Differing pathways are generally the minority.
Then what's the reason that the majority of drug and treatment trials have vastly different results in humans compared to mice?

[Anonymous No.11824990]

>>11823293
Mods and jannies on /sci/ confirmed to be kneeling nigger lovers.

[Anonymous No.11825012]

>>11821131
>mathematician
you're funny bro I like you