/sfg/ Space Flight General - Soon edition

[Anonymous No.11791981]

Previous thread: >>11788727

Rocket Launch schedule: https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/

Rocket lab launch in ~2 hours or so, will it be cucked by wind yet again?

[Anonymous No.11791988]

>>11791906

[Anonymous No.11791993]

>>11791988
thicc

[Anonymous No.11791995]

>>11791981
Nice concept rocket...

[Anonymous No.11791996]

the question is
>wake up early
>stay up late
For this Starlink launch

[Anonymous No.11792009]

>>11791996
like 4 ish hours of sleep if you go to bed now, just stay up with the boys of /sfg/

[Anonymous No.11792023]

>>11791996

[Anonymous No.11792040]

>>11791996
If you can, might be worth staying up late to catch the Electron launch too

[Anonymous No.11792047]

>>11791995
>Nice concept rocket...
feel 'dat rocket envy.

[Anonymous No.11792049]

>>11792047
Why do it look like tin foil?

[Anonymous No.11792055]

So the question is, how long until we start seeing parts of SN8?

[Anonymous No.11792059]

>>11792055
2 weeks at the most

[Anonymous No.11792062]

UPDATE: Public Notice of Cameron County Order to Temporarily Close State Highway 4 and Boca Chica Beach

Primary Date June 15, 2020 8:00 a.m. – 5:00 p.m. Closure Scheduled
Backup Date June 16, 2020 8:00 a.m. – 5:00 p.m. Closure Scheduled
Backup Date June 17, 2020 8:00 a.m. – 5:00 p.m. Closure Scheduled

[Anonymous No.11792065]

>>11792062
Wait why

[Anonymous No.11792068]

>>11792065
blowing up another starship

[Anonymous No.11792069]

>>11792040
Have two unconnected rockets ever launched on the same day/night like this before I’m giddy that such a thing can happen nowadays with the industry booming into such a crowded market that this can happen.

[Anonymous No.11792072]

>>11792068
ELON NO!

[Anonymous No.11792074]

>>11792069
I'm pretty sure a Falcon 9 and LongMarch have flown in the same 24 hour period before.

[Anonymous No.11792075]

30 minute notice to Rocket Lab launch:

https://youtu.be/VRfm6RGVHf8

[Anonymous No.11792082]

>>11792049
Its stainless steel.

[Anonymous No.11792083]

>>11791988
oh god take me back, fuck this gay world

[Anonymous No.11792087]

Sorta unrelated to spaceflight itself, but SpaceX started closed alpha testing of Starlink in their facility today.

[Anonymous No.11792096]

>>11791981
Are you fucking kidding OP?? YOU HAD ONE JOB
>>>11791628
>>>11791596
>>>11791558
>>>11791548
>>>11791512

[Anonymous No.11792100]

>>11791995
Nice cope

[Anonymous No.11792104]

>>11792087
very related to spaceflight. success of starlink means a guaranteed market of a shitton of tonnage to LEO for the foreseeable future, and funding for mars/starship

[Anonymous No.11792107]

>>11792096
OP is a faggot, how many individual autists are there making new threads though? 5, 10?

[Anonymous No.11792108]

Where do the wagies getting shipped off to work at boca chica live at? The nearest place is brownsville almost an hour away. Do they provide housing or do they commute?

[Anonymous No.11792111]

>>11792108
the wagie farm

[Anonymous No.11792117]

>>11792075
Can I get a quick rundown on this?

>>11792111
They need prototype Martian habs. I mean it's not like all the colonists will sleep inside Starships r-right?

[Anonymous No.11792118]

>>11792108
or Boca Chica village. Or, you know, they just commute a fuckton like is the norm for a bunch of Americans

[Anonymous No.11792120]

>>11792096
I'm the anon who you were talking to, but I'm not OP. I was waiting until the old thread hit about halfway through page 9 before making the new thread, but OP made the thread before that. I was going to use the Halo image.

[Anonymous No.11792122]

Starlink launch in few hours?

[Anonymous No.11792123]

>>11792117
New Zealanders built a small rocket, it's lifting some shitty smallsats and a cool NRO spoop payload.

>>11792118
>>11792108

[Anonymous No.11792124]

>>11792122
ja
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8riKQXChPGg

[Anonymous No.11792125]

>>11792122
Yes, your nominal launch thread will be up don't worry.

[Anonymous No.11792128]

>>11792107
At least 5
>>11792120
Damn well you tried

[Anonymous No.11792129]

>>11792123
Thanks. Are we taking bets on it exploding spectacularly?

[Anonymous No.11792133]

>>11792129
it's gonna get cucked by rocket launches ultimate nemesis
the wind

[Anonymous No.11792135]

>>11792129
nah it's had like a 10 launch success streak. they're working on parachute recovery of the first stage which is cool

[Anonymous No.11792136]

>>11792108
>>11792111
>>11792123
>>11792118
Does it matter? With spacex focusing there, a new town will pop up quickly

[Anonymous No.11792141]

>>11792111
>ywn be an engineer building the next step in space exploration/mars colonization living with your other engineer bros in trailer parks
Why even fucking live

[Anonymous No.11792142]

>>11792108
It's florida, just pop a tent.

[Anonymous No.11792143]

>>11792136
and hour-thirty commute is literally nothing, people will just live in Brownsville

[Anonymous No.11792147]

>>11792143
an hour thirty commute is a lot when you work 12 hour shifts for spacex

[Anonymous No.11792151]

>>11792143
Well obviously at first, but a town will spring up

[Anonymous No.11792155]

not a promising start

[Anonymous No.11792156]

Alright bros here’s your way to become a millionaire:

>buy some land in between Boca Chica and Brownsville
>build a Martian-colony themed hotel there
>let families, fans, journalists, tourists etc stay there while they’re visiting to watch starship launches in the coming years
>rake in tourism bux

I mean come on, there are towns in Florida that have historically relied on tourism for the Kennedy space center launches, imagine the crowds for the first manned Mars missions and beyond. Brownsville is gonna boom

[Anonymous No.11792159]

Bros, redpill me on Aerospace engineering, I love space and have loved it for 10+ years. I have to decide between doing International relations at George Washington Uni in DC or AeroEng at UF. The big difference is GWU costs 40k a year and UF is 10k(might be a full ride). Really want to know what the undergrad and early work experience is like.

[Anonymous No.11792160]

>>11792155
We're never getting to Mars

[Anonymous No.11792164]

I thought it was :44?

[Anonymous No.11792168]

>>11791981
That rocket will never fly.

[Anonymous No.11792174]

>>11792159
>Really want to know what the undergrad and early work experience is like
mech e here that works in aero, the undergrad course work is much harder than anything you have had to do prior and it will change the way you have to think (you have to begin to think like an engineer, very analytical) be prepared to work 12 hours a day a lot of days in undergrad (the sooner you learn something fundamentally the less work will be required)
For early work experience, getting an internship is honestly almost harder than getting a job. Interning just go in and do your best, ask a bunch of questions etc, early work once youre hired is really hands on for someones first job, you really get thrown in there so you have to understand your shit before going in or you're gonna be left behind.
Its a good field to go into, just be somewhat passionate for it and put in the work and it'll be find

[Anonymous No.11792177]

>>11792160
Prove it

[Anonymous No.11792179]

>a fucking cloud

[Anonymous No.11792183]

>>11792133
>>11792155
Cloudcucked.
>We're readjusting the T-0 for cumulus cloud. New T-0 set for 05:12 UTC

[Anonymous No.11792190]

A
FUCKING
CLOUD
A
FUCKING
BREEZE
JUST
FUCK
MY
SHIT UP
SENPAI

[Anonymous No.11792192]

>>11792156
People who open bars in areas like that always make a killing.

[Anonymous No.11792200]

>>11792190
Can't we just disperse clouds? Fly planes through? Or detonate small nuclear bombs in them?

[Anonymous No.11792201]

>blows into your general direction

[Anonymous No.11792202]

RocketLab LIVE:

https://youtu.be/VRfm6RGVHf8

[Anonymous No.11792203]

>>11792200
We must devise a method of killing clouds.

[Anonymous No.11792204]

>>11792192
Not futuristic enough. Get a special liquor license from Gov. Abbott and setup a robot bar.

[Anonymous No.11792209]

>The virgin rocket grounded by a cloud
>The CHAD SOYUZ launches in blizzards

[Anonymous No.11792211]

>>11792201
FUCK FUCK FUCK DELETE DELETE DELET DELET NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.11792214]

>>11792204
Idk if employees will want work themed bars

[Anonymous No.11792215]

>Boston University
Fuck it, trash this sat. Dunk it in the sea.

[Anonymous No.11792218]

this nigga needs some water

[Anonymous No.11792219]

>>11792214
Yeah but I imagine a lot of them are extremely autistic.

[Anonymous No.11792222]

>>11792219
Very true

[Anonymous No.11792230]

I want to book Electron and ride into space on it,with a re-entry shield and a parachute.

Could I make it happen?

[Anonymous No.11792231]

>>11792200
>>11792203
It already exists, it's called cloud seeding already exists but it does not work on every situation, we're not there yet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding

[Anonymous No.11792233]

5 minutes lads
you think its gonna launch?

[Anonymous No.11792234]

>>11792230
Bad news, anon.

>Red Bull sponsors some of the best athletes in the world across a variety of sports. We are not accepting applications for sponsorship, but please reach out with your questions about any of Red Bull’s athletes.
-https://www.redbull.com/us-en/energydrink/contact-sponsorship

[Anonymous No.11792236]

>>11792233
No lmao

[Anonymous No.11792241]

TWO MINUTES AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.11792242]

>>11792236
They're gonna show that cloud who's boss. It's basic psychology.

[Anonymous No.11792243]

wind is going to the right today. was going to the left the other time!

[Anonymous No.11792245]

>>11792174
Thanks, this is exactly what I was looking for. And in undergrad it's mostly 12 hours of classwork correct? The 'hands on' work is through clubs and such on your own time I presume? Thanks again for the insight.

[Anonymous No.11792246]

HERE WE GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.11792247]

ELECTRON IS GO

[Anonymous No.11792248]

>IT'S
LAUNCHING

[Anonymous No.11792249]

CLOUDS SEETHING

[Anonymous No.11792250]

Any UK anons up this early? I couldn't sleep ugh

[Anonymous No.11792251]

launch cat is MIA

[Anonymous No.11792252]

When do Max P and Max R happen?

[Anonymous No.11792253]

How will SpaceX ever recover?

[Anonymous No.11792255]

lol that reverb

[Anonymous No.11792258]

>>11792255
That's just a normal part of New Zealander accents.

[Anonymous No.11792260]

>>11792245
>And in undergrad it's mostly 12 hours of classwork correct?
yeah homework, independent study (tests make up most of the grade in most engineer undergrad courses) and labs (labs are a decent amount of the "hands on" work)

[Anonymous No.11792261]

That was actually pretty cool with the rain

[Anonymous No.11792263]

[Anonymous No.11792265]

>>11792253
With drone ships usually.

[Anonymous No.11792267]

That delay though

[Anonymous No.11792271]

>>11792263
How dare you be so late.

[Anonymous No.11792276]

What's the recovery profile for those batteries?
I mean, they wouldn't just dump them in the sea like some fucking cavemen right?

[Anonymous No.11792277]

>>11792265
Could drone ships pirate other companies rockets in the future? Would it be legal in international waters?

[Anonymous No.11792279]

>That sliver of atmosphere in the background

[Anonymous No.11792281]

>>11792276
>

[Anonymous No.11792285]

evening launches are megakino

[Anonymous No.11792287]

>>11792276
The rockets fly east, right? So maybe they're dumped on Cthulu

>This point was featured in the 1928 short story The Call of Cthulhu by H. P. Lovecraft as the location of the fictional city of R'lyeh.
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_of_inaccessibility#Oceanic_pole_of_inaccessibility

[Anonymous No.11792291]

>>11792277
The rockets seek out their own drone ships, don't they? You'd have to capture Of Course I Still Love You in order to pirate a Falcon.
>ywn have a high-seas battle with rocket-pirates as a Falcon 9 first stage is only a minute away from landing on your embattled barge

[Anonymous No.11792292]

>>11792287
Lmao Cthulu btfo humanchads win yet again

[Anonymous No.11792296]

>>11792291
Look at me. Look at me.

I'm the low cost supplier of orbital launches now.

[Anonymous No.11792301]

So now that SpaceX is done for and Rocket Lab has taken over as the go to aerospace company, where do we go from here??

[Anonymous No.11792303]

That was a nice launch of Rocketlab's Electron. Continuing tonight's entertainment, the next Starlink webcast is live in three hours:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8riKQXChPGg

[Anonymous No.11792305]

>>11792301
Rocket Lab Starship

[Anonymous No.11792306]

next up, Starlink. Thread will be up at T-2hr

[Anonymous No.11792307]

>>11792303
>3 hours
but im tired what do

[Anonymous No.11792311]

>>11792307
Meth

[Anonymous No.11792318]

>>11792277
Lol if you could somehow hijack a fucking rocket mid-flight and successfully recover it on your own barge then you should be able to keep the rocket

[Anonymous No.11792324]

>>11792307
Kerbal Space Program? Or that freeware alternative, Orbiter or something?

[Anonymous No.11792326]

>>11792276
You dispose of car batteries by heaving them into the oceans, why should rocket batteries be different?

[Anonymous No.11792330]

>>11792291
I really hope space becomes dominated by massive militarized private companies like the seas once were.

[Anonymous No.11792333]

>>11792326
>You dispose of car batteries by heaving them into the oceans
I bury them in the woods like a sensible person, the sea is far too long a drive away.

[Anonymous No.11792335]

>>11792333
>Filthy flyovers will never experience the pleasure of a good battery splash with the guys
Coasties win again, baby!

[Anonymous No.11792345]

>>11791988
this is... so cool!
I can see all the orange and yellowy panels What's the cockpit like?

[Anonymous No.11792346]

>>11792335
I could dump them in the lake if you think that'd help.
>>11792296
Beautiful, I expect rocket-pirates on the list of /sfg/ memes next

[Anonymous No.11792354]

>>11792120
equality and anonymity are a bitch sometimes, but we're all along for the trip I guess

[Anonymous No.11792356]

>>11792354
Hey, I prefer it to the alternative. Imagine being able to view the profiles of every anon here and see exactly who they were. Disgusting. Anonymity is superior.

[Anonymous No.11792368]

>>11792354
That looked like a rotten cake from the thumbnail.

[Anonymous No.11792381]

>>11792356
Yeah... honestly I'm pretty close to fleeing into some cozy forum, or maybe try out reddit. I'm not even browsing controversial boards and don't have any bullshit agenda to push on the world. Makes you think why even put up with all this cancer. It's not even reducing the digital footprint because you have to lower the VPN every time I post.
Not that it's gonna happen any time soon because there's no such thing as escape from 4chan

>>11792345
cargospace!

[Anonymous No.11792390]

>>11792381
>or maybe try out reddit
I mean, I wouldn't. Dunno where else has good discussions of spaceflight but at least here I can call people faggots for being dipshits and not have to worry about someone trying to get me fired from my dishwasher gig. At the end of the day, I like you anons and wouldn't have it any other way. Profiles/signups are for chumps.

[Anonymous No.11792406]

>>11792381
>maybe try out reddit
It’s better than 4chan when you stick to subreddits dedicated to an extremely narrow topic, and the ability to look at someone’s history to see if they’re blatantly pushing an agenda is nice.

On the other hand, most of the larger subreddits are irredeemably full of politics and stupidity. Really not that different than a left-leaning version of /pol/, except it’s harder to write off the more ridiculous opinions as satire.

[Anonymous No.11792417]

>>11792381
Reddit is so much worse with agendaa and they censor you constantly

[Anonymous No.11792418]

>>11792406
Yeah reddit has useful information and AMA’s... but it also has politics and rules. Case and point: that guy who uploaded the “upskirt” Starship render and all the comments were “I’m a woman and this is grossly offensive, mods remove this!”

[Anonymous No.11792425]

>>11792406
>It’s better than 4chan when you stick to subreddits dedicated to an extremely narrow topic
No its much worse, I've spent so much time on both and i can honestly say that 4chan has so much more to offer. Reddit is okay for certain specific things but even small subs have been infiltrated by agendas and are censored by mods.

[Anonymous No.11792431]

>>11792418
>“I’m a woman and this is grossly offensive, mods remove this!”
That person who got the post taken down is also a tranny...

[Anonymous No.11792434]

Reddit is extremely left wing, to the point everything has to be political (and it has to be their politics), otherwise they will mass downvote you and potentially ban you. It is an irredeemable shithole.

[Anonymous No.11792437]

>>11792390
>>11792406
I've genuinely never tried it, but anons here recommend going there all the time^^
But I see the appeal of 4chan too, it's like entering a dark room with a megaphone and a shotgun where everybody has a megaphone and a shotgun, which is nice in it's own regard... and then they discuss their affection to girly looking boys via megaphone and shotgun, which is not so nice.

[Anonymous No.11792438]

>>11792431
The tranny jannies strike once again.

[Anonymous No.11792441]

>>11792437
They're gonna fuck up the event horizon tv show aren't they

[Anonymous No.11792444]

>>11792425
I feel like 4chan can have better content, but you have to wade through a ton of shit to find it. Posts on small subreddits full of autists dedicated to a certain subject are a lot higher quality on average.

The over moderation present on most popular subs is definitely annoying, though.

[Anonymous No.11792445]

>>11792441
>event horizon tv show
that's news to me...

[Anonymous No.11792447]

>>11792431
Gross.
>>11792434
What's the point of persistent identity? I legit don't understand the draw to a non-anon site. Everything used to be anon, then as the normienet took hold everyone was expected to tie their irl identity to their internet posting and I've never understood the appeal.
>>11792437
>it's like entering a dark room with a megaphone and a shotgun where everybody has a megaphone and a shotgun
Good way to put it, I love it. Lack of identity is a beautiful thing, I don't know if you're a biracial black transsexual midget and it isn't relevant if you were, the words you type in a post are the only thing that matters.

[Anonymous No.11792450]

>>11792445
https://screenrant.com/event-horizon-tv-series-updates-release-date-story/

[Anonymous No.11792451]

>>11792425
/r/spacelaunchsystem has literal shuttle program boomers commenting, although I guess the ultimate boomer veterans can be found on the NSF L2 forums. I personally can't handle that level of autism, I'm a mathfag I just like seeing pretty renders.

[Anonymous No.11792452]

>>11792447
>What's the point of persistent identity?
>and I've never understood the appeal.
It is a circlejerk of autists who want to be popular on the internet, that is my only guess.

[Anonymous No.11792457]

>>11792452
They want it to track you for the improved revenue stream of having more complete individual data, and the general requests for information to keep using the site have normalized the user's expectation of submitting de-anonymizing information. As usual, the quest to make money from the communication of ideas ruins everything.

[Anonymous No.11792459]

>>11792452
Same as the phenomenon of persistent tripfags here, really. You rarely see them these days, I've only seen a half dozen or so in the last year or so on the boards I frequent.

[Anonymous No.11792463]

>>11792447
>What's the point of persistent identity?
Theoretically, it gives people some pressure to act civilly as if their reputation is being judged like in a real, in-person conversation. Of course, in practice it just means that everything you’ve ever said has to conform to the increasingly left-leaning hive mind lest you face the wrath of mass downvotes.

[Anonymous No.11792473]

>>11792463
It's so much simpler to merely judge an anon by the substance of their post. Your value is directly related to the quality of your post, and no other factor influences my opinion of what you have to say.
I'm hard-pressed to conceive of a superior system.

[Anonymous No.11792480]

Sorry if we got offtopic there, just to bring it back around does anyone know specifically what that Electron just threw into orbit? All I know is that they were multiple minisats (cubesats?). Do we know any specifics? The Starlink launch in a few hours has a rideshare with a few ground-imaging satellites that advertise damn good resolution, like 200cm I think.

[Anonymous No.11792482]

>>11792450
>https://screenrant.com/event-horizon-tv-series-updates-release-date-story/
Ohhh I hope they'll keep it 2000s corny, then they can do whatever they want, for all I care.

I loved the eva scene without the space suit, going along and also exhale and try to keep your breath for the duration of the scene just to be completely wasted, like the character.

>>11792452
>The thing that started the conversation. Random anon asks for suggestions for new thread theme,
>other anon (or samefag) recommends cunning theme.
>random anons (or samefag) applaud
>skip time
>new thread with bland theme gets opened by anon
>"anon is retarded", they shout
>anon replies that it's not him, but anon

It's ultra minoure, but you can never be certain who you're talking to.
More severely,
I was creating OC over at /o/ where people requested their cars to be shopped.
>other creator/s joins in
>great
>Some anon posted his commuter,
>commission went through and got posted,
>anon shits on the commissioner to have done a shorty job (in a rude way).
>goes back and forth...
>anon replies that the shitter was not him.
>Damage was done and nobody knew who was who.
>Anons car never got touched again.

[Anonymous No.11792487]

>>11792480
Wasn’t it some sort of secret squirrel NRO payload?

[Anonymous No.11792489]

>>11792418
> Posts "New images of StarShip anally raping Jeff Bezos" on roddit
> Post gets removed
> reeeeeeee censorship and politics
Are you cunts really that lacking in self-awareness or do you just actively seek persecution complexes?

[Anonymous No.11792490]

>>11792480
“ ANDESITE (which stands for Ad-Hoc Network Demonstration for Extended Satellite-Based Inquiry and Other Team Endeavors) was developed by Boston University.

The satellite itself will deploy eight “pico-satellites” designed to resolve current densities at varying spatial resolutions in the near-Earth magnetosphere using measurements from Anisotropic Resistance Magnetometers, and relay information back to the central satellite. It is flying as part of NASA’s Educational Launch of Nanosatellites, or ELaNa program.

M2 Pathfinder is a collaboration between the University of New South Wales and the Australian Government. The mission will test communications architecture and other technologies, including the ability of an onboard software-based radio to operate and reconfigure while in orbit.”
And then three NRO mystery sats

[Anonymous No.11792495]

>>11792490
Huh, so two test missions, one of which shits out eight tinier sats, plus some spysats?

[Anonymous No.11792496]

>>11792480
yeah let's get back.

Can anybody tell me why the kickstage was out of all things, 3d printed? From what I understand 3d printing is only good for fast prototyping which is like the polar opposite of building a launch vehicle. Or is it just a really low force application on a throwaway item? But then there's casting, right?

[Anonymous No.11792497]

>>11792487
There's a bunch of satwatcher blogs and forums that can usually give some speculation of what the spysats are likely focused on. There's only so much you can do with certain orbits.

[Anonymous No.11792498]

>>11792489
You're dumb. Someone could say something stupid on reddit and you could reply
>this is fucking dumb
and mods will remove it for “breaking rule 10,942. Hate speech / hurtful comments will not be tolerated”
In practice I understand why it’s there, but the result is a fake kumbayah website where intolerance is based off of whether or not you’re post history shows you posted on r/sandersforpresident and politics, or r/thedonald. The aerospace subreddits are pretty chill as a whole but stuff like r/space has been invaded by normies. They’re still posting dumb shit like “TIL Elon is launching a new ship called Starship!”

[Anonymous No.11792499]

>>11792496
Yeah I was wondering that too when I heard them call it out on stream, are they just memeing or what?

[Anonymous No.11792511]

>>11792490
>It’s an anagram named after a rock type
Absolutely dank

[Anonymous No.11792512]

>>11792499
It'd be just and odd way to shave pennies, or 3d printing came a longer way than I thought.
>>11792437 (me)
>it's like entering a dark room with a megaphone and a shotgun
lol I didn't make that connection then, I swear!

[Anonymous No.11792514]

>>11792498
> I dont care
>>11792496
>>11792499
Isn't that rocketlabs thing? They've been doing it forever with complex components. It always felt gimmicky for investors but might be better than usual manufacturing methods, have no idea.

[Anonymous No.11792517]

>>11792496
Is the structure of the kick stage itself 3D printed or just certain components? Aerospace components with complex geometries are increasingly being printed (turbopumps, fuel injectors, etc.) due to cost savings vs milling or casting, but simple structures don’t really get much benefit from it.

[Anonymous No.11792523]

>>11792517
Fair point, casting would bmarry you to a design and fucking with molds is always shotty.

[Anonymous No.11792525]

You guys gonna stay up until the spacex launch?

[Anonymous No.11792526]

>>11792444
Yeah but if you've been on here long enough you know that the good stuff on here is actually posted a lot more frequently and the open opposition to everything actually makes the truth much easier to figure out. Open debates also happen frequently which is nice. Last thread we had a read employee talking about the rover and it wasn't in an ama. That means we got expert insight without people kissing ass.

[Anonymous No.11792531]

>>11792526
>Last thread we had a read employee talking about the rover
Damn, I missed that. Anything interesting come out?

[Anonymous No.11792532]

>>11792525
My alarm failed and I just woke up t-3 before Rocketlab, spooled up my machine believing I fucked up, just to tap into final. It's 9am here, so I'll see the Starlink launch definitely

[Anonymous No.11792536]

>>11792451
>NSF L2 forums
I'm unfamiliar with this. But i have to say that reddit is just not worth it outside of the pictures and videos posted.

[Anonymous No.11792548]

>>11792536
Dang it John, we can't just admit nicking oc from reddit!

[Anonymous No.11792572]

T-2 bong launch thread
>11792562
now time for a nap

[Anonymous No.11792577]

>>11792548
Source pictures and videos are not reddit OC. Also reddit OC doesn't exist

[Anonymous No.11792578]

>>11792572

oop
>>11792562

[Anonymous No.11792616]

Anarchists in Seattle have declared rebellion against the US government and established a new nation called “Chaz”. The territory covers six blocks and they demand money from businesses in their territory.

[Anonymous No.11792620]

>>11792616
Hmm yes, spaceflight

[Anonymous No.11792622]

>>11792616
We live in a society

[Anonymous No.11792626]

Bros SN10 looking good

[Anonymous No.11792630]

>>11792620
The collapse of American society has relevance to space

[Anonymous No.11792631]

>>11792626
What SN will be the Wallace and Gromit rocket?

[Anonymous No.11792633]

how long until spacex flight?

[Anonymous No.11792635]

>>11792630
Go away, Chang. Tell your supervisors to stop funding and agitating this shit, too.

[Anonymous No.11792640]

>>11792633
Under two hours; you can open the SpaceX stream link and it’ll tell you how long till stream start. Or click/hover your cursor over the launch thread post time and subtract two hours from how far ago it was posted

[Anonymous No.11792642]

>>11792635
I’m not Chinese I’m just slightly worried about the fact that there’s an armed rebellion happening and the government is ignoring it

[Anonymous No.11792646]

>>11792616
Its a giant nothing burger but i do think they should all be shot.

[Anonymous No.11792649]

>>11792642
And it's being ignored for good reason. The media is chomping at the bit for Trump to take action against him, trying to bait, goad, and coerce him into stomping them out; they're reading and positively giddy for the sight of blood in the streets, and its all so they can paint him as neo-Hitler.

[Anonymous No.11792651]

>>11792649
Should be ready, instead of reading.

[Anonymous No.11792656]

>>11792630
The Apollo program capped off the most unstable period in American history since 1865. If anything, societal unrest and new developments in spaceflight seem to go hand in hand.

[Anonymous No.11792659]

>>11792649
I got inside it a few days ago and took a look around. It would be a lot more worrisome if 99% of the people there weren't completely broken - some combination of gay, trannies, other mental illnesses, regular illnesses, dtug addicts, etc. The city government is using them as a puppet to say orange man bad and they're too wrapped up in their own dysfunction to notice. Classic "useful idiots."

Also the homeless people they invited ate all their food and they suck at gardening so now Baby's First Communist Rebellion has lasted less than a week before famine and agricultural failure set in. Clown world is in full effect.

In conclusion, this has no further relevance to spaceflight and discussion of CHAZ should be redirected to >>>/pol/.

[Anonymous No.11792676]

>>11792649
I have no idea why anyone would care about dumb anarchists dying

[Anonymous No.11792684]

>>11792676
Because the Democrats and the media are propping them up in hopes that they'll provide ammunition to use against Trump and the Republicans come November. Nobody actually cares.

[Anonymous No.11792698]

>>11792684
So this is the “Democrats set their cities on fire and do nothing to make Orangelo look bad” part of the year?

[Anonymous No.11792703]

>>11792698
Seems to be, yeah. Given how much crazy shit has happened this year, they probably should’ve waited a few more months to keep it in the news cycle through November.

[Anonymous No.11792709]

>>11792703
>>11792698
>>11792684
>>11792676
This is not a BAD discussion, but it's totally out of place. Come on guys.

I'm fast losing patience with other aerospace companies-if your corp doesn't have a full swing reusable or ultra-cheap rocket program going you're irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.11792719]

>>11792640
Why do they need so many satellites?

[Anonymous No.11792723]

>>11792709
Sorry

[Anonymous No.11792725]

>>11792719
downloading 4K HD hentai from space needs a lot of sats

[Anonymous No.11792730]

who else being a degenerate and playing on private wow servers until launch time?

[Anonymous No.11792731]

Is there any simple mathematical approximation of how much mass a rotating habitat like an O’Neill cylinder needs per habitant?

[Anonymous No.11792738]

>>11792731
Three acres of farmland plus the inhabitant's share of infrastructure.

[Anonymous No.11792739]

>>11792730
holy shit dude I've been playing classic wow since I got home from work while I wait for launch, don't fuck with my brain like that

[Anonymous No.11792743]

>>11792709
>I'm fast losing patience with other aerospace companies-if your corp doesn't have a full swing reusable or ultra-cheap rocket program going you're irrelevant.
It's the difference between space as a way to grant farm between military contracts and space as a destination in its own right. You can really tell where the dividing line is in the industry.

[Anonymous No.11792744]

>>11792730
Why play on private servers?

[Anonymous No.11792750]

>>11792731
Mass is only restricted in things such as material failure from angular velocity. Inhabitants won’t make a difference

[Anonymous No.11792752]

>>11792738
That much? Google says it’s less than that, and I’m not sure traditional farming methods would be favored over, say, hydroponics or aeroponics. I’m thinking about tonnage because I’ve recently been thinking about the idea of strip-mining entire planets away and how many rotating habitats you could construct from them. I’d assume you’d get much more habitable space than if you merely inhabited the world’s surface, and you could have any gravity you wanted. Small asteroids with shit for gravity are nevertheless billions of tons worth of metals and silicon and whatnot

[Anonymous No.11792754]

>>11792743
Yeah it was so obvious in that zoom meeting with SpaceX blue orgin and dynetics. Honestly I am so thankful for musk, without spacex I'd be an old man or dead by the time we tried space for real.

[Anonymous No.11792758]

>>11792744
cuz blizzard doesnt have any tbc or wotlk classic servers yet

>>11792739
kek, yeah i like to give myself a break from vanilla every now and then and level a toon thru the outlands when i get bored

[Anonymous No.11792759]

>>11792750
You’d need some amount of mass around the habitat to block radiation, and you’d need the mass of the air in the pressurized volume, plus bodies of water, biomass, etc, and whatever facilities sustain this environment

[Anonymous No.11792760]

>>11792754
wait what zoom meeting
sauce??

[Anonymous No.11792765]

>>11792752
>I’ve recently been thinking about the idea of strip-mining entire planets away and how many rotating habitats you could construct from them
IIRC you can support a trillion people in O'Neill Cylinders in the solar system if you strip mined the Belt and Venus for material.

[Anonymous No.11792773]

>>11792577
I was joking, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8riKQXChPGg
stream just went up!

[Anonymous No.11792775]

>>11792760
>https://youtu.be/KEnz8V97Qck
Someone posted it in the last thread but apparently the mods banned him for something and deleted it.

[Anonymous No.11792776]

>>11792765
>IIRC you can support a trillion people in O'Neill Cylinders in the solar system if you strip mined the Belt and Venus for material.
Much, much more

[Anonymous No.11792778]

>>11792451
What's wrong with NSF?

[Anonymous No.11792780]

>>11792775
Oh and its like 20 minutes in i think before they get in on the csll.

[Anonymous No.11792781]

>>11792778
Not wrong per se but very intense autism. They're the kind of people who will actually build an emdrive test article to shut up forum trolls.

[Anonymous No.11792783]

im gonna coom guys

[Anonymous No.11792785]

alaska spaceport

[Anonymous No.11792787]

>>11792765
I’d have expected more, honestly. Would be neat to see a sort of demonstration rotating habitat with enough shielding to block radiation more or less entirely and enough diameter and speed to simulate comfortable 1g gravity. My first idea for mass-saving would be to use a layer of water for both shielding and agriculture, and essentially imbed a pressurized habitat within a large body of water full of edible algae

[Anonymous No.11792791]

>SpaceX is targeting Saturday, June 13 at 5:21 a.m. EDT, 9:21 UTC, for launch of its ninth Starlink mission, which will include 58 Starlink satellites and three of Planet’s SkySats

holy shit they can launch all of this all at the same time? so how long before starlink becomes operational at this rate?

[Anonymous No.11792798]

AAAHHHHH

[Anonymous No.11792799]

>>11792787
It is more, the guy is just wrong

[Anonymous No.11792800]

>>11792783
Does she have any social media for me to creep on? I'm in love.

[Anonymous No.11792801]

>>11792791
The Starlinks are stacked on top of each other like pizza poxes. They only took two off the normal load to add the smallsats. As fast as the Falcon 9 launches are, they need full cargo Starship capability to deploy the full constellation on time.

[Anonymous No.11792803]

>>11792791
Once starship is completed, elon can send 400 per mission lmao

[Anonymous No.11792805]

>>11792791
initial test somewhere at the end of the year

[Anonymous No.11792810]

>>11792800
@whoisheartbreak

[Anonymous No.11792812]

>>11792805
They started testing it in house yesterday, actually. Not sure to what extent it’s being tested, and apparently there’s periodic outages due to a lack of satellites, but it’s allegedly working as expected so far.

[Anonymous No.11792822]

>>11792810
>rainbow flag

...And dropped. Shame.

[Anonymous No.11792825]

nice launch

[Anonymous No.11792835]

If they really send a few starships to Mars in a few years, do you think they'd put cybertrucks on it?

[Anonymous No.11792838]

>The total cost of the decade-long project to design, build, and deploy the constellation was estimated by SpaceX in May 2018 to be about US$10 billion.[8]
holy shit that is so fucking cheap

and all the governments and everyone else wasting their time jesus christ

[Anonymous No.11792841]

amazing view

[Anonymous No.11792843]

TOUCHDOWN

[Anonymous No.11792846]

Kino

[Anonymous No.11792849]

landing successful

[Anonymous No.11792850]

Bullseye with a live feed!

[Anonymous No.11792851]

very nice land

[Anonymous No.11792852]

night launches are the shit

[Anonymous No.11792857]

>>11792849
that was fucking NICE

[Anonymous No.11792860]

>>11792843
damn i was a little too late

[Anonymous No.11792864]

10 years from now this will be nothing, like child's play

are we getting to mars bros

[Anonymous No.11792869]

>>11792835
I certainly hope so but the Mars mission is serious business and available weight will be put to serious use. The Roadster went up because it would have just been a concrete block to simulate payload otherwise.

A test vehicle to the moon perhaps. Would be more aesthetic too imo.

[Anonymous No.11792871]

>>11792864
Starship is the big missing piece, and that's actually developing as fast as it should.

[Anonymous No.11792875]

KINO

I

N

O

[Anonymous No.11792879]

cute

skysat!

[Anonymous No.11792880]

[Anonymous No.11792881]

>>11792864
It already kinda is. SpaceX launches are routine and boring now.

[Anonymous No.11792883]

>>11792864
Get your affairs in order, learn a trade, save hard, I'm going to get the fuck off this rock my dude it's happening 100%

[Anonymous No.11792890]

[Anonymous No.11792892]

i dont see the third one on ho

[Anonymous No.11792896]

>>11792835
Cybertruck was created as the basis for space rovers.

[Anonymous No.11792898]

>>11792892
hidden behind the main bulkhead.

[Anonymous No.11792900]

Like fucking clockwork.

[Anonymous No.11792901]

>>11792869
Cybertruck to the Moon would be NICE
>>11792883
It’s our destiny anon

[Anonymous No.11792903]

>>11792896
Shit design for rover imo, something bigger and more comprehensive is needed.

[Anonymous No.11792909]

>>11792883
Mars is the future home of Western Civilization. We should be so grateful that we live in this time and can preserve that torch to a new world.

It might be because it's fucking 3 am but I think I'm tearing up bros

[Anonymous No.11792916]

>>11792909
Racist

[Anonymous No.11792918]

>>11792791
What exactly is Starlink?

[Anonymous No.11792921]

>>11792883
We are gonna make it bro

[Anonymous No.11792925]

>>11792918
>What exactly is Starlink?
A satellite internet constellation that aims to be fast and low latency by being very low altitude. They compensate for the lack of coverage time for each satellite by having a crapton of satellites.

[Anonymous No.11792927]

>>11792916
ok chang

[Anonymous No.11792932]

>>11792916
anon literally did not invoke race are you braindead

[Anonymous No.11792934]

>>11792925
Interesting

[Anonymous No.11792936]

>>11792909
Probably won't make it there myself but I'm definitely leaving in my will to liquidate all my shit and buy some mars property for the kids.

[Anonymous No.11792937]

GUYS a spacex spacecraft literally flew over my house just a few minutes ago!

[Anonymous No.11792938]

>tfw soon a substantial portion of internet bills will be paid directly into Musks Starship/Mars colony slush fund.

[Anonymous No.11792950]

>>11792938
saved

[Anonymous No.11792952]

crossing over turks

[Anonymous No.11792953]

>>11792932
What the heck is “western civilization” then?

[Anonymous No.11792956]

>>11792937
file a noise complaint

[Anonymous No.11792957]

>>11792938
Elon should write a book called “This Book Will Hell Fund Starship”. Books can make millions, and he’s already a billionaire but all funds can go directly into starship and everyone would gladly consoom to help fund the future.

[Anonymous No.11792962]

>>11792953
Better than wherever you come from.

[Anonymous No.11792963]

>>11792932
I dunno, is west vs east racist?
I mean cold war wasn't about genes or color of skin and no side picked their allies or satellites because of race.

You can easily turn it into something racist, but I don't think it is as is.

[Anonymous No.11792964]

>>11792953
The civilizations built by Europe, particularly those descended from the Roman Empire.

[Anonymous No.11792968]

>>11792936
I would unironically throw my entire life savings into a pot if everyone else here did it to fund eachother to Mars. It’s 5am and I’m drunk but I’m feelin’ that kind of way rn

[Anonymous No.11792969]

>>11792962
I’m American

[Anonymous No.11792970]

>>11792953
>"WHITE PEOPLE BAD!!!!!!!!"

[Anonymous No.11792972]

>>11792962
This 1000%

[Anonymous No.11792974]

>>11792953
>What the heck is “western civilization” then?
>Only white people live in western countries
If only.

[Anonymous No.11792975]

>>11792957
Help

[Anonymous No.11792976]

>>11792969
Then stop being a self hating fucktard and appreciate the civilization to which you belong.

[Anonymous No.11792978]

>>11792953
without a doubt the most productive and culturally rich society mankind has yet conceived

[Anonymous No.11792980]

>>11792953
Arguably it encompasses the modern global order of liberal democracies and their largely shared culture. You could even make the argument that South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan are part of the west in some ways, though many would likely disagree.

[Anonymous No.11792983]

>>11792968
Than Uncle Sam takes 99.9% of that for the gibs. Shameful government we have.

[Anonymous No.11792984]

Chad on eastronaut stream

[Anonymous No.11792988]

>>11792983
Then. I'm drunk and up late watching launches.

[Anonymous No.11792989]

>>11792850
Upgraded drone ship helps stability apparently. Last landing on it didn't cut feed either.

[Anonymous No.11792990]

>>11792976
I do but I see no reason to loath and degrade the other ones. I like Indians and I see no reason to not explore the stars with them

[Anonymous No.11792992]

okay what now

[Anonymous No.11793000]

>>11792992
I think they'll release the 58 satellites on the blue line? Or where the 3 satellites carrying the other ones?

[Anonymous No.11793001]

>>11792980
If it’s that broadly defined then I suppose it’s the best

[Anonymous No.11793004]

>>11792989
OCISLY hasn't been upgraded yet, I'm not sure what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.11793007]

>>11793004
Ah, I wasn't watching live, I thought they had Just Read the Instructions supporting it.

[Anonymous No.11793014]

>11793000

thats the coming orbit

[Anonymous No.11793026]

>>11792990
I don't think the view that Western Civilization is supreme and that the Indians also have a cool civilization are mutually incompatible. However, if they do explore space it will be in the footsteps of the West.

[Anonymous No.11793031]

>>11793000
They already released them on T+26m

[Anonymous No.11793040]

Deployment confirmed. Stream ended.

[Anonymous No.11793049]

[Anonymous No.11793050]

>>11792938
Picture too big to post here
https://static.wixstatic.com/media/c391a1_763d356bbc7c4dd1bfb78872736487b0~mv2_d_6000_8900_s_4_2.jpg

[Anonymous No.11793051]

https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/podcast/ep-3-innovating-aerospace-spacex-culture-of-rapid-prototyping/

Bit indepth on Spacex EE interview

[Anonymous No.11793057]

An Apollo 11 documentary just started on BBC America. This moment was purely epic. I’m just imagining someone like my dad sitting in front of the TV as a kid in pure amazement (same with the rest of America and really the whole world). Will the first Artemis landing be as big? Have normies lost faith in space travel?

[Anonymous No.11793058]

>>11793026
They’ll catch up. HDI is increasing in almost all countries.

[Anonymous No.11793059]

>>11793049

[Anonymous No.11793063]

>>11793057
Normies are consoomer zombies, it's amazing how fucked society has gotten over the last decade or so. Smartphones were the death blow.

[Anonymous No.11793065]

>>11793057
I can’t imagine how fucking cool it would be to see a skyscraper waiting to launch, not only were rocket launches extremely special back then, but nothing has come close in modern day to the side of the Saturn V. And CBS news was kino back then

[Anonymous No.11793066]

Getting new thread ready.

[Anonymous No.11793068]

>>11793066
Can you not? Let it ride to page ten. /sci/ is a slow board.

[Anonymous No.11793072]

>>11793066
Fuck off ffs

[Anonymous No.11793074]

>>11793066
Janny will nuke it, too early. We're on notice apparently, even though the rest of the board is filled with dogshit threads.

[Anonymous No.11793076]

>>11793066
Begone satan, PAGE 1 you troll

[Anonymous No.11793077]

New thread:
>>11793075

>>11793075

>>11793075

[Anonymous No.11793079]

>>11793057
I doubt it. Already been done before + normies will be more concerned about how the crew doesn't have a black disabled tranny and a bisexual latinx slam poet

[Anonymous No.11793085]

>>11793066
It’s on the first page still!

[Anonymous No.11793087]

>>11793079
They have a black lady and an asian dude on the team

[Anonymous No.11793088]

Ever since DM-2 these chucklefucks have been fucking up the thread cadence, god damn it pisses me off

[Anonymous No.11793089]

>>11793057
Who cares what normies think? What matters is that lots of people are getting excited about space in a way that we have not seen for quite some time.

[Anonymous No.11793092]

>>11793087
Not intersectional enough for 2020 let alone 2023

[Anonymous No.11793093]

>>11793077
too early

god damn it when will you faggots learn

[Anonymous No.11793097]

>>11793088
tourists

[Anonymous No.11793098]

>>11793088
We also got the anime spastic and the buttplug 3d print faggot

[Anonymous No.11793103]

I slept through the Rocket Lab launch so I'm watching it now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8riKQXChPGg

[Anonymous No.11793107]

>KSP crashes while watching spacex launch
>don't want to sit through 20 mins of loading to start it up again
fucking christ why isn't KSP2 here yet, how many fucking years has it been now

[Anonymous No.11793109]

>>11793107
I personally think the shakeup recently was good for the game’s eventual quality.

[Anonymous No.11793110]

what's the status of sn5 and the pads at boca?

[Anonymous No.11793113]

>>11793107
>20 minutes
jesus fucking christ, buy an ssd (and/or a better cpu)
my game is modded to absolute shit and it takes about 2-3 minutes

[Anonymous No.11793116]

>I heard a someone at the press site say “He’s just a Redditor”(not realizing I heard)Yup! I’m just a Redditor who has to run every one of my cameras, run audio, do my own research, host, post, edit, do everything your entire crew does. I would never say “You’re just a 4chan guy”

[Anonymous No.11793117]

>>11793110
SN7 test tank is at the pad. SN5 and SN6 are basically ready to rock and roll once SN7 blows up or whatever. Main new pad is almost done, it has the thrust simulator installed. Flare stack is MIA currently

[Anonymous No.11793121]

>>11793117
The flare stack area is being raised about four feet to take it out of the flood plane.

[Anonymous No.11793122]

>>11793117
>tfw pad expansion is next on the list and soon we wont be able to keep up with all the testing habbebings

[Anonymous No.11793126]

>>11793113
okay 20 mins is an exaggeration but it's still slow as fucking piss even loading from my NVMe ssd
also please god give KSP2 an actually functional UI without having to have 20 mod windows open at all times, it's worse than fucking EVE for filling up screen real estate

[Anonymous No.11793130]

>>11793126
ksp2 is never going to happen, i'm sorry to break it to you anon

[Anonymous No.11793132]

>>11793130
Prove it or you lose

[Anonymous No.11793134]

>>11793132
they sold out to taketwo. We're going to enjoy paradox levels of DLC

[Anonymous No.11793136]

Is there a website with a condensed list of Starship’s current progress? I feel like i’m way more up-to-date than the average person but i’m beginning to get a bit lost with all the Mk variants and new pad expansions and what that means

[Anonymous No.11793137]

>>11793121
Ah yes remember seeing that now.

[Anonymous No.11793138]

>>11793134
>It’s not going to happen
>Prove it
>Actually it will happen but there’ll be lots of DLC

Cool backpedal. I don’t care if there’s lots of DLC. I can afford it.

[Anonymous No.11793140]

orbital construction when bros?

[Anonymous No.11793141]

>>11793136
Just follow the nasaspaceflight boca chica facilities update thread, starship update thread, and cocoa starship update thread. Ignore everything else.

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php#c17

Also subscribe to Spadre and Maria Pointer on YouTube plus some other stuff there’s like a couple Facebook groups and things

[Anonymous No.11793145]

>>11793121
I thought the flare stack was being removed entirely because of the recondenser

[Anonymous No.11793147]

>>11793140
looks like the ship from sunshine

[Anonymous No.11793148]

>>11793145
the gnomeadd boomer who lives there and who generally knows what’s cooking said it was being raised so I trust him

[Anonymous No.11793154]

>>11793141
I follow Chris B on twitter but i’ve never bothered to check out the actual nasaspaceflight website. I’ll get on it tomorrow and try to get myself caught up. Thanks anon, hope we see some big tests soon

[Anonymous No.11793159]

>>11793154
They post em in the update thread but the daily NSF boca chica video clip videos on YT on the NSF channel are good too. But yeah just RSS feed the updates threads and subscribe to a couple channels and you should be good

[Anonymous No.11793161]

>>11793140
When the US Space Force needs actual military ships, orbital ship-building will become a reality.

[Anonymous No.11793183]

>>11792496
You can print inconel. It's just not going to be quite as strong.

[Anonymous No.11793185]

>>11792496
>>11793183
Oh, and yes you can cast too, but casting requires you to go through the trouble of making a mold. Printing removes this cost.

[Anonymous No.11793192]

>>11793185
That's just a crazy small margin where it's more economical to put in the R&D to make it printable than to machine it, but not enough units to cast, or have other tooling heavy mass production methods. I never even thought printing was viable for anything except proof of concept prototyping.

[Anonymous No.11793206]

Is there going to be an economic niche for smaller rockets in a world where Starship type heavy lifters are cheaper per kg, or will it just be left to the very rich and the very autistic like private airplanes?

[Anonymous No.11793207]

guys
what if instead of making reusable rockets we just make a really really big rocket and launch everything that needs to go up at the same time to lower costs

[Anonymous No.11793209]

>>11793207
Senator, please.

[Anonymous No.11793211]

if elon makes tintin real does that mean he can make anime real too?

[Anonymous No.11793213]

>>11793206
Hmm musk it going to change the game so fucking hard there won’t even be room for richies like bezos to even compete for a while. I suppose there will still be room for small launches but I can’t say that for certain. I can’t imagine EVERYONE will be using starship- although it’s cheap as absolute fuck so maybe they will. We’ll see
>>11793207
Found the boeing plant

[Anonymous No.11793215]

>>11793211
He is making anime real, he’s taking the japanese philosophy of work ethic and all-nighters and bringing it to Texas

[Anonymous No.11793217]

>>11792111
It's like you astronaut complex in stage 1 when you can only have 5 and no EVA^^

[Anonymous No.11793218]

>>11793211
Soon.

[Anonymous No.11793220]

>>11793211
Lol I have something from the same book.

[Anonymous No.11793222]

>>11793206
SpaceX needs to make an orbital tug with enough dV to inject multiple satellites into individualized orbits. As long as a smaller dedicated launcher is the only way to pick and choose your orbit there will be a market for them.

[Anonymous No.11793227]

>>11793218
Can we have mechas first, please.

[Anonymous No.11793264]

>>11793227
Mechas need either new physics or kilopower onboard reactors to be worth it. Catgirls will be developed for Mars transit crew.
>small
>flexible
>comfortable in tight quarters
>able to orient themselves in freefall instinctually
>easy to induce torpor for long flights - just mix catnip and sleeping pills
>massive morale booster for crewmen

[Anonymous No.11793266]

>>11793264
Okay pedophile

[Anonymous No.11793286]

>>11793213
They'll just corporate espionage his IP then publicly shame him through the media for something with an astroturfing campaign. They easily did it to Shkreli, can do it to him too.
When big toes like that get stepped on they will fight back.

[Anonymous No.11793290]

Rocket Lab is working on parachute catching boosters. If that works, it's a great way to scale up a rocket - you just add more boosters and hire more helicopter pilots. You could even do a fully reusable 6+1 first stage, without the seawater damage issues of shuttle SRBs, or a 6+0 first stage and a central recoverable second stage.

[Anonymous No.11793396]

>>11793290
>catching rockets out of the air with parachutes
>guys no seriously it scales really well
It's like I'm in the early 2ks again.
Nothing against electron or their solution, but it doesn't work for anything bigger.

[Anonymous No.11793399]

>>11793396
Get a bigger helicopter

[Anonymous No.11793401]

>>11793399
Land retropropulsively.

[Anonymous No.11793408]

>>11793401
Nobody besides SpaceX has managed that yet so I'm not counting on it working.

[Anonymous No.11793411]

>>11792781
the emdrive still hasnt been debunked they still think its thermal drift but they havent ruled it out yet, tajmar was supposed to be building a new testbed for it but ive been looking for any news about it aince november of last year and I still havent heard anything else from their scholarly papers

[Anonymous No.11793413]

>>11793408
No one will compete with SpaceX without figuring it out. Scaling up solution that become only become more complex and inefficient to compete with something that only improves with scale doesn't make business sense.

[Anonymous No.11793416]

>>11793408
AHEM

[Anonymous No.11793419]

>>11793413
>Scaling up solutions that only become...
cat stole my chair and it's butchering my typing

[Anonymous No.11793425]

>>11793416
BO hasn't landed an orbital booster yet, so not really the same thing. I don't doubt their ability to figure it out, though.

[Anonymous No.11793432]

>>11793411
How much thrust is it actually supposed to put out?

[Anonymous No.11793462]

>>11793432
IIRC the "operational" goal was 0.01N/kW and the "zombg hovering" threshold was 1N/kW.

[Anonymous No.11793467]

>>11792990
No shit retard, those aren't mutually exclusive views. I like my house the best but yours is nice too, I don't have to hate it in order to love mine.

[Anonymous No.11793469]

>>11793416

[Anonymous No.11793480]

Started working on a New Shepard mod for Orbiter 2016

Anyone have starship interior drawings?

[Anonymous No.11793487]

Now that Britain has left the EU, should they start their own space program independent from the ESA?

BSA?

[Anonymous No.11793497]

>>11793487
ESA isn’t part of the E.U.

[Anonymous No.11793499]

>>11792111
Looks like the company just buys a trailer for people willing to live onsite

[Anonymous No.11793511]

>>11793487
They're an irrelevant part of ESA, as a solo power even third world nations would drag their balls all over Britain's collective face. So yes.

[Anonymous No.11793553]

I know a butthurt astronomer who says starlink is still too bright. Any sources about visorsat I can link to him?

[Anonymous No.11793563]

An industrial electrician could be useful in space, right?

[Anonymous No.11793565]

>>11793553
The are only one or two visorsats in orbit and they won't be in target orbit to provide useful data for a month or two. Astronomer-san is a fucking retard, as per usual.

[Anonymous No.11793576]

>>11793553
I could barely make out the train I saw a few nights ago, what is he talking about? They're dim as hell, if anything I wish they were brighter.

[Anonymous No.11793579]

>>11793553
Ask him if he can spot any of the ones that have been raised to final orbit

[Anonymous No.11793581]

>tfw forestrynigger
h-how long until elon is growing forests on mars bros

[Anonymous No.11793585]

>>11793581
M A R T I A N
H E M P

[Anonymous No.11793628]

Are the fuel tanks in KSP heavier than real ones are proportionate to the fuel they carry? Starship’s proposed dry mass of 120,000 kilograms and wet mass of 1,320,000 kilograms seems unachievable with the mass ratio of the stock fuel tanks, and thus also its proposed delta/v

[Anonymous No.11793633]

>>11793628
I'd be surprised if starship actually hits that target. It seems a bit overly optimistic. KSP is a video game anyways.

[Anonymous No.11793645]

I live in Nashville and for some reason I had a dream last night that SpaceX had moved their operations here and had two Falcons downtown waiting for liftoff

[Anonymous No.11793659]

>>11793563
I hope so, that's my plan at the moment. Is that what you do for work now or are you thinking about it?

[Anonymous No.11793660]

>>11793645
Cool.

[Anonymous No.11793662]

>>11793563
>>11793659
Shit, that's my plan, too. There's going to be too many of us

[Anonymous No.11793663]

>>11793628
yeah, stock tanks are pretty much made out of lead plates and rebar

[Anonymous No.11793666]

>>11793633
>KSP is a video game anyways.
Thanks for adding nothing to the conversation, anon.

[Anonymous No.11793667]

>>11793666
You're welcome and thanks for ignoring the other part of the post.

[Anonymous No.11793673]

>>11793660
Thank you for reading my blog

[Anonymous No.11793674]

>>11793633
Sure, but delta/v works exactly the same way it does in KSP as it does in real life. Starship needs to have sufficient delta/v to perform a Mars injection burn and then land on Mars while carrying a 100 ton payload for its purpose to be fulfilled.
Assuming a 100 ton payload, a dry mass of 220 tons (120 tons of Starship and 100 tons of payload), a total mass of 1,420 tons, and Raptor’s specific impulse of 380, Starship has a delta/v of 6,949, which is plenty for this job, but if we assume that Starship’s proposed dry mass is an underestimation, and it ends up with a dry mass of, say, 200, it would have a delta/v of 5,997, which, I think, maybe, is still enough for the job, since a Mars injection burn costs 4,300 delta/v on average, and you can ignore delta/v for the capture since Starship is supposed to aerobrake. I’m not sure how much delta/v doing the landing would cost, though, because I’m sure they’ll exploit atmospheric drag, and with a dry mass of 250, it has a delta/v of 5545, which is even worse but might still be workable.

[Anonymous No.11793682]

>>11792307
Have a nap.
THEN LAUNCH ZE ROCKET

[Anonymous No.11793687]

>>11793674
Explain delta v to me like I'm 8

[Anonymous No.11793692]

>>11793687
How much fast is in your rocket

[Anonymous No.11793703]

>>11793682
>ee's asleep? Launch eet.
>>11793687
It's a simplification of the real term, which is "change in velocity", the greek delta in math means change, V is shorthand for velocity. At it's simplest, it represents how much any reaction engine (turbojet, piston, rocket, etc) can change the vehicle's velocity by burning through it's fuel/propellant load.
It's proportional to two factors, thrust per unit mass (How much thrust you can produce for a given amount of fuel/propellant consumed) and the total burn time (How long the engine can run before all of it's fuel/propellant is consumed).
This is why Thrust-to-Weight ratio and ISP are so important to consider for rocket design.

[Anonymous No.11793704]

>>11793563
For the near future, probably only military or ex-military has a chance in space.
And you're gonna want a pretty diversified CV. Be an expert electrician, but be a decent at other things as well.

[Anonymous No.11793708]

>>11793645
That's awesome, I had a dream too, but I just can't remember anything past that. My dreams are always me being in a semi common situation in my daily life, but with the crippling awareness that some detail is fatally wrong and great peril is imminent. I'm always so glad waking up that it was just a dream, but I prefer dreaming to not dreaming at all. I think it was also space related, but I can't make the connection. I was also waken up at 2am by my neighbor phoning somebody about her husband or boyfriend having been searched by the police, like 4 men were there, which is weird because another neighbor who moved out before she moved in had a similar event, with her husband trying to pickup his daughter, he seemed like a good guy, but she called the cops and I was just wrenching on my car in the parking lot, half the car in pieces, unable to overhear it. It's not the same apartment, but basically everybody since I moved in, moved out and I'm the longest residing person in the whole house at this point, after just one year. It's not even a bad neighborhood, oh well that fucking escalated...
I hope the guy wasn't an asshole, he seemed okay and his kid wanted to be with him.

[Anonymous No.11793719]

>>11793687
Your speed (really velocity, but whatever) determines the altitude of your orbit. For a spacecraft, how much speed you can change (based off of your remaining fuel, engine characteristics, and mass) determines where you can go, so it’s a useful quantity to keep track of.

[Anonymous No.11793721]

>>11793687
Delta/v is simply how much you can change your velocity. The higher the percentage of your craft that is propellant, the higher your delta/v is. Delta/v is also influenced heavily by specific impulse, which is essentially the fuel efficiency of a thruster.

If we imagine a hypothetical spaceship that weights 50 tons fully fueled and 10 tons empty, and has a thruster with a specific impulse of 450, it would have a delta/v of 7102, which is enough to put you into a low orbit of the Moon with fuel to spare. If it had a specific impulse of 350 instead, it would have a delta/v of 5524. You can save delta/v when landing or trying to enter an orbit of a planet by colliding with its atmosphere for atmospheric drag, which reduces your velocity without expending propellant. Very useful when going to Mars

[Anonymous No.11793777]

SN5 looking fiiiine out in the sun

[Anonymous No.11793782]

[Anonymous No.11793788]

>>11793782
new steel?

[Anonymous No.11793811]

>>11793782
It only took them what, two weeks to get the new prototype out and ready? I know they're working on multiples simultaneously but still goddamn.

[Anonymous No.11793817]

>>11793788
LONG LIVE THE NEW STEEL

[Anonymous No.11793827]

>>11793788
No only SN7 is the new steel

[Anonymous No.11793838]

>>11793645
Oddly enough I had a SpaceX themed dream as well, where the starlink launch lost some part of the fairing on liftoff and then slowly went off course.

[Anonymous No.11793840]

>>11793782
whys it so dented

[Anonymous No.11793841]

>>11793782
SHINY BOI

[Anonymous No.11793842]

>>11793840
It's not as dented as it looks, that's just the light fucking with your perception.

[Anonymous No.11793847]

>>11793840
It'll look less dinged up when it's been under pressure. It's cold rolled steel only a couple of mm thick.

[Anonymous No.11793848]

>>11792200
We can, but the clouds postphone the rockets that disperse the clouds

[Anonymous No.11793859]

>>11793645
I had a dream that I was walking in my neighborhood and jared kushner got attacked by a dog, so I gave him some chocolate powder for him to throw in a dog's eyes that I was carrying for just such an occasion. He panicked and threw it in empty air immediately. What a retard

Also something spaceflight

[Anonymous No.11793874]

Orbital janitor spacecraft that captures dead satellites when

[Anonymous No.11793883]

>>11793874
refueled SS cargo

[Anonymous No.11793884]

>>11793553
Fuck the satellite-fags amirite? Stars are too bright for satellite spotters! We need to dim the fucking stars.

[Anonymous No.11793887]

>>11793874
>wake up in your bunk rack
>suit up in the airlock, take orbital hopper out from station
>rendezvous with first contract of the day, an old spent second stage from decades ago
>return to station later that day hauling several bits of old debris for recycling and reuse
>make enough cash to keep the lights on and the hopper fueled another day
Would beat the shit out of dishwashing lemme tell ya.

[Anonymous No.11793889]

>>11793782
>fucking stainless steel

[Anonymous No.11793976]

>>11792849
Love the sunrise

[Anonymous No.11793995]

I wonder if they're using starlink to help keep a stable connection to the drone ship

[Anonymous No.11793998]

>>11793884
based

[Anonymous No.11794036]

>>11793887
You at least have a steady gig, mate.
Client wanted me to look out for a lost picket of theirs in the upper atmosphere of this unstable hellhole today, storms getting worse every week, but ok, isn't like there's much of a choice for freelancers lately... "freelancers" yea. I was flying IFR for hours, all static on all frequencies and my Mk3 developed this new rattling sound on pitch up, which is great... 6 hours in I get a massive reading, all noise from basically all sides, the dust clears and you won't believe it, I'm inside a shuttleport of a cooked Logasiri class escort carrier. Thrust reversal, almost went full goo. I wonder how this irradiated hulk ended up on an orbit here, declining, yes. But it'll take weeks to fully burn up.

I can hook you up with the telemetry, for a beer, and a share if you find something but again, it's cooked, good.
I had peaks of 16k rads without being anywhere near the reactor bay, but if your hopper is shielded...
Will head out again tomorrow to look for these fools, but at this point I may know what happened to them fuck knows what they were doing out there, not that I'm questioning this whole op here anymore.

[Anonymous No.11794043]

>>11793782
why do they have so much trouble welding rolls of steel, we used to make pic related ffs

[Anonymous No.11794049]

>>11794043
Battleships are fake. No proof they really worked

[Anonymous No.11794068]

>>11794043
I'd rather compare it to a sub. You know a sub that has to withstand thermal expansion, pressure changes, mechanical push, pull and twist and while you're at it, make it light please without the bow falling off if that's possible, thanks!

[Anonymous No.11794114]

>>11794068
Looks like the fronts fallen off.

[Anonymous No.11794165]

>>11794114
They do that sometimes.

[Anonymous No.11794171]

It's an American Cruiser thing, you wouldn't understand.

[Anonymous No.11794189]

>>11793645
Back off, SpaceX is Texas property now.

[Anonymous No.11794194]

>>11794043
I just don't understand this reusable battleship meme.

[Anonymous No.11794224]

>>11794171
>killing 180+ of the ship's crew
:(

[Anonymous No.11794269]

New thread?

[Anonymous No.11794271]

>>11794194
How much does SLS cost again? A 1 second search for "cost of a battleship" spit out a quarter billion. Imagine a single-use battleship, the mind reels.

[Anonymous No.11794277]

>>11794224
Yeah ok I didn't want to be insensible.
Liberty ships were also pretty much on the edge of welding technology and they broke apart even more easily. These cruisers were still afloat because of their armored citadels while simultaneously being partially the reason for loosing it in the first place. That's because these areas were connecting the flimsier bows to sturdy midships which focuses all kinds of stresses. The Japs also had that problem on DD's because they were genuinely underbuilt.

[Anonymous No.11794295]

>>11794271
>How much does SLS cost again?
The RS-25s cost $146M each so the SLS costs at the very minimum $584M. I think most estimates, that aren't from contractors, for the whole stack being somewhere between $1B and $2B.

[Anonymous No.11794296]

NEW THREAD

>>11794293
>>11794293
>>11794293

[Anonymous No.11794326]

>>11794271
>Imagine a single-use battleship, the mind reels.
That would genuinely make more sense than what what actually went down. Except for the US and Britain basically all BB's were objectively trash. Germany just got constantly shelled, the Japs had no fuel and were too anxious to risk them, Italy "...", the Brits were forced to use them extensively because they had shit creek, example being the state of Hood and the US only pressed theirs into coastal Bombardment service because what else were they supposed to do. The only time they got really used as intended, it was in the battle of Leyte Gulf, which was basically just the Japanese doing their own death march because honor and shit.

[Anonymous No.11794331]

>>11793286
He's too important to the US for this to happen. It would be shut down before it got anywhere

[Anonymous No.11794686]

>>11793098
I was here before DM2 anon, i just hadn't seen anything on the competition until about a week before dm2

[Anonymous No.11794699]

>>11793206
Yes when they all learn reusability. Unfortunately the applications won't be for a long time

[Anonymous No.11794700]

>>11792511
It's nice but way too forced, and completely unrelated to what the satellites actually do.

[Anonymous No.11794706]

>>11793215
>he’s taking the japanese philosophy of work ethic and all-nighters and bringing it to Texas
Have you been to Texas or the parts of America that aren't the coasts? That philosophy has been here for at least 100 years. Get out of here with your weeb obsession.

[Anonymous No.11794717]

>>11793487
They should, if their citizens stop being so cucked

[Anonymous No.11794923]

>>11794271
The program has cost us 18b so far.

[Anonymous No.11795007]

>>11793116
I mean... He is right. He might be a soiboi but he knows his stuff and has gotten very far. He definetly deserves the respect.