/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.11753829]

What kind of hobbies do high I.Q people have ?

[Anonymous No.11753833]

not sure but probably autistic shit like model trains, hobby electronics, legos, woodworking/metalshop, computer stuff, board games

[Anonymous No.11753931]

>>11753829
Terrance Tao isn't high IQ. He developed early and matured into a midwit

[Anonymous No.11753938]

>>11753829
Fencing, cinema, and dabbling in reading philosophy. IQ 148 btw

[Anonymous No.11753941]

>>11753829
how the fuck does he still manage to look like hes 14

[Anonymous No.11753942]

>>11753938
Based

[Anonymous͘ No.11753943]

>>11753938
>Fencing
>t. Silver spoon faggot

[Anonymous No.11753968]

>>11753931
Why does this board gets so defensive about him? He's clearly an intelligent person

[Anonymous No.11753975]

Be based.

[Anonymous No.11754048]

>>11753943
I grew up in poverty. I just had a friend who was secretary of my undergrad's fencing club. You're allowed to take part in hobbies outside your caste.

[Anonymous No.11754055]

/sci/ hates him because he watches anime.
Pretty much all of the better fags in /sci/ are anime avatarfag. They are jealous and mad that they are inferior to weebs.
>inb4 2hu is not anime

[Anonymous No.11754058]

Cooming.
140-ish.

[Anonymous No.11754060]

>>11753829
Making programs and scripts others have already done much better, reading, playing board games, particularly fond of Go, Cubing and making dumb pc builds with the components friends dump on me because they don't need them.

[Anonymous No.11754063]

>>11753968
>Why 4chan being edgy contrarian.

[Anonymous No.11754065]

>>11754060
147 btw, forgot to put this in the post

[Anonymous No.11754066]

>>11754060
>Cubing
Best time?

[Anonymous No.11754068]

>>11754066
Actually haven't timed myself for months, but last I did it was 21.3 seconds I think (3x3 of course)

[Anonymous No.11754069]

Drawing, reading, anime, vidya.
137.
I can't into heavy game like Total War, Dorf Fort, or Civilization for some reason, it's like my mind is not built for them. It's my biggest grind.
I just want to increase my macro management skill.

[Anonymous No.11754072]

>>11754069
>I can't into heavy game like Total War, Dorf Fort, or Civilization for some reason
It's almost as if you're a midwit with low IQ hobbies

[Anonymous No.11754076]

>>11754069
>heavy game
You probably just listed the least heavy grand strategy/4x games I can think of and Dwarf Fortress spelled weird.

[Anonymous No.11754079]

>>11753829
Doing psychedelic drugs

[Anonymous No.11754080]

>>11754068
Based. I never really got seriously into it but I could reliably do sub-minute solves. I think my best was 0:44. Left my good cube in an airport once by accident and never really picked it up again.

[Anonymous No.11754081]

>>11754076
>and Dwarf Fortress spelled weird.
How new are you nigga

[Anonymous No.11754088]

>>11753829
>Terry is an Australian
He look-a Chinee to me

[Anonymous No.11754089]

>>11754081
>Anon must be new because she doesn't know every weird way of saying Dwarf Fortress

[Anonymous No.11754091]

>>11754089
>she
t. he

[Anonymous No.11754096]

>>11754091
Ok retard.

[Anonymous No.11754103]

>>11754072
Dude you can look up strats online if you want to minmax shit. It is hard when you have to calculate 99% of everything yourself.
I kept a spreadsheet for my dwarfs but gave up after a month.

[Anonymous No.11754106]

>>11754080
What cube was it? Also, just did a few solves, I'm back up in the 50's, yikes, I need to get back into this...

[Anonymous No.11754107]

Is posting on /sci/ considered an intelligent hobby or not?

[Anonymous No.11754109]

>>11754107
Only if it's the math general. >>11754106
Can't even remember, been too many years.

[Anonymous No.11754110]

>>11754107
Well, OP didn't specify intelligent hobbies, they just specified hobbies that high IQ people have.

[Anonymous No.11754113]

>>11754110
I just want to verify the validity of the IQs in this thread.

[Anonymous No.11754116]

>>11753829
Masturbating to feet porn and using my girlfriend's feet as cum catchers. Keeps the brain fog at bay, stress at a minimum, performance at maximum.

[Anonymous No.11754120]

>>11754116
Also talking to myself, a fucking lot. IQ is 122, barely above average, but what can you do, right?

[Anonymous No.11754122]

>>11754113
High IQ hobbies and hobbies had by high IQ people isn't the same thing.

[Anonymous No.11754130]

>>11754096
Tranny cope

[Anonymous No.11754136]

>>11754130
Ok retard.

[Anonymous No.11754145]

I bait homohating anons to shit on me. It makes me feel horny and then I masturbate to the thought of stinky sweaty anons raping me while calling me a low IQ faggot.
Only /sci/ enables this fantasy of mine.
Last 3 times I tested were 167, 173 and 162.

[Anonymous No.11754193]

>>11753943
This is a total Hollywood myth. Fencing was cheaper than even boxing for me. Its only expensive if you buy your own gear and kit. Club kit for anything is fucking gross but fencing clubs always have plenty.

[Anonymous No.11754428]

>>11753829
modeling social situations in a game theory sort of model and trying to go net positive consistently

assuming different identities

making people believe in something that doesn't exist

analyzing political situations and markets

creatively blackmailing people

deeply daydreaming

[Anonymous No.11754436]

ROBLOX and math IQ is 93

[Anonymous No.11754522]

>>11754103
You don't need to minmax anything, the game is only difficult if you choose to make it so by starting in a savage/evil biome

[Anonymous No.11754559]

I troll vg/dfg/ for fun

t. 160+

[Anonymous No.11754564]

>>11753829
Chess

[Anonymous No.11754568]

>>11754076
>total war
>grand strategy
I mean, it's more explicitly about tactics, the strategy is secondary to that

[Anonymous No.11754598]

They love learning languages, the obscurer the better.

[Anonymous No.11755241]

>>11753941
Asian genetics

[Anonymous No.11755250]

>>11753829
Cuckold "fetish smart people"

[Anonymous No.11755278]

>>11753941
non drinker

[Anonymous No.11755285]

>>11753931
He has published novel contributions, something you will never do. Are you saying you are dumber than a midwit?

[Anonymous No.11755292]

when can we just admit that videogames of ANY kind are low iq? Even if they're cringe "strategy" games

[Anonymous No.11755460]

>>11754428
The first one is pure autism in a good way

[Anonymous No.11755499]

>>11754079

Based and Shulgin Pilled.

High enough IQ, I do research in computational quantum chemistry and dynamic systems. Hobbies are picked up and put down, film and music being major focuses that have lasted.

[Anonymous No.11755567]

>>11754568
Fair, but what should we call it as a genre then?

[Anonymous No.11755578]

>>11754428
>modeling social situations in a game theory sort of model and trying to go net positive consistently
this is psychopathy
>assuming different identities
personality disorder
>making people believe in something that doesn't exist
sociopathy/psychopathy
>analyzing political situations and markets
sure
>creatively blackmailing people
again, psychopathy
>deeply daydreaming
this seems more like creativity desu

[Anonymous No.11755628]

>>11753829
I'm into independent science and my hobby is architecture.
My brother is into business and his hobbies are fucking sports.
I like weed, he prefers beer. We're extremely different, we even look differently, but we inherited few rare features from out parents and we are both extremely intelligent according to those tests. I think those tests are legit, he things they're crap.
So I think anything can be a hobby of people with high iq.

[Anonymous No.11755648]

>>11753829
Being incels
Living in their shitty apartments or mother’s basement
Not talking to girls
Being toxic, problematic, racist, sexist assholes

[Anonymous No.11755655]

>>11754428
>modeling social situations in a game theory sort of model and trying to go net positive consistently
I built a voice app that I use to score my social interactions like a basic civ game, +1 for positive interactive -1 for negative interaction for the other person, e.g. if I help someone out thats +1 wereas if I be a cunt to someone that's -1. I can release the code but requires AWS transcribe.

> <category:family/friend/work> <name> <positive/negative>
>e.g. "work bob positive", bobs score +1

[Anonymous No.11755658]

Why do you care? It's not like picking up the hobbies of an intelligent person will make you more intelligent. And on the flipside, you're not going to make many intelligent friends by pretending to like the things they do.

Besides, most high intelligence people have the same hobbies as everyone else. Everyone I've come across who claims their specific hobby is "for intellectuals" is an elitist pseudointellectual that has very little merit to back up their supposed superiority. There are probably exceptions to this, but this is the general trend.

In my experience (as a physics grad student), the hobby/intelligence distribution is mostly flat. Common (rare) hobbies among the general population are still common (rare) amongst other physicists at my institution. The only exception is physical activity (e.g., climbing, running), which is a common "hobby" among academics, but this can be misleading because it only correlates in one direction - if you pick a random academic, they probably enjoy doing something physically involved, but a random person who likes physical activity is almost certainly not an academic.

Stop obsessing over what intelligent people enjoy doing and just do the things you enjoy doing.

[Anonymous No.11756066]

>>11754088
that's pretty problematic my guy

[Anonymous No.11756080]

>>11756066
shut up chink loving nigger

[Anonymous No.11756092]

>>11756080
wow why the racism?

[Anonymous No.11756107]

>>11753829
Advance Wars

[Anonymous No.11756116]

>>11753829
>>11754055
>terence taoo watches anime
source please

[Anonymous No.11756129]

Kung fu
surfing
yoga
gymnastics
drawing
bedroom philosophy
starcraft
musical composition and performance
magnets
radios from rocks
digital calculators
Taoist alchemy
geometry

[Anonymous No.11756138]

>>11756116
There's an interview where he says that he watched anime and played video game when he was a kid.
Probably not anymore.

[Anonymous No.11756151]

>>11753829
LEARNING NEW SHIT
READ A BOOK DUDE

[Anonymous No.11756153]

>>11756129
>bedroom philosophy
Is this some classy way of saying you're into watching your wife get fucked by other men?

[Anonymous No.11756162]

>>11756138
All I can find is a link on hacker news to a google doc which has been taken down.

[Anonymous No.11756173]

>>11755578
>deeply daydreaming is just creativity
Sure but it requires you to visualize many things. Create identities for other people present.
You have to basically simulate a scenario in as high of a "resolution" as you can. It's stimulating and gets my mind off of things. Definitely a working memory requirement for high paced daydreams.

>psychopathy/sociopathy
You don't know what you're talking about. I'm not a psychopath or a sociopath. I don't socialize much so when I do I make hobbies out of different interactions and try to optimize them.

>personality disorder
No I don't have a personality disorder. I don't think/behave in an unhealthy way. At least not unhealthy for myself, but maybe society. Assuming different identities doesn't hurt anyone. It opens up different social opportunities for me. It's an optimal way of behaving.

[Anonymous No.11756180]

>>11753829
My hobbies include: birdwatching, anime-, music- and retrogame-collecting, programming, gym, swimming, /out/. I'm a physics undergraduate.

[Anonymous No.11756189]

>>11755655
No need that's a good idea. I'm going to make something like it thanks.

[Anonymous No.11756215]

>>11754145
>being a degenerate coomer
>literally dropping in IQ
Can't make this shit up.

[Anonymous No.11756246]

>>11753829
Doing maths questions whilst listening to comfy Japanese piano.

[Anonymous No.11756267]

>>11753829
Can someone post a link to a good free IQ test

[Anonymous No.11756277]

>>11753829
>we Australians

[Anonymous No.11756316]

>>11753829
Watching and playing cricket according to /sp/

[Anonymous No.11756351]

>>11753829
Competitive programming.

[Anonymous No.11756544]

>>11753829
whatever they want

[Anonymous No.11756555]

>>11755655
A good idea would also include a lie graph detailing the lies you can tell given an initial lie without getting caught in your web of lies.

[Anonymous No.11756572]

>>11756267
https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/FSIQ/

[Anonymous No.11756590]

>>11753829
151 here. 8ball

[Anonymous No.11756602]

>>11753829
I browse 4chan and post on 4chan, read, write, draw, play videogames, play TTRPG's, lift, and masturbate

So probably none of those things

[Anonymous No.11756605]

>>11755292
No. Id software games are for high IQ chads.

[Anonymous No.11756609]

>>11756605
JRPG games unironically boost your IQ.

[Anonymous No.11756640]

>>11753829
I don't know anymore.
I have lost all fun and enjoyably hobbies over the years.

I just got to "whats the point?". I use to read everything, but now I know the ending after just a few chapters and stopped after books got too predictable. Same with movies and theater. Started playing video games, but in a few years I was beating them too fast to justify the money I paid to get them, 40 hour game lasted 5 hours and cost $60, no thanks. Played online some but rarely found a challenge and half the time got booted for suspected cheating. Why cheat? game is too easy to start with. Started working out to fill the void but after I got a ripped body I noticed people started assuming I was some dumb muscle head idiot which was very frustrating so I dialed it back a little and just do it to stay healthy. Given space and money limitation I looked for some challenge I could do with in my resource base. Built and programmed a computer made of micro controllers that kept me entertained for a few years, but I reached functional limits as it can't connect to anything given it has it own unique architecture I made. So it is mostly limited to a word editor and a game station with some games I made.

I am out of ideas on what to do with my abilities. Without more time and money I feel like I have conquered every challenge I can think of. And getting more time and money is dependent on others who have competitive means of production. I tried getting more by automating a big part of things at work but that just lead to coworker getting laid off, rather then me getting any more time or money. Other ideas are not viable given the ethical issues involved.

[Anonymous No.11756792]

>>11756640
>I am out of ideas on what to do with my abilities.
Try to beat the stock market consistently. You think it's easy; prepare to be humbled.

[Anonymous No.11756897]

>>11756792
I can't do that in the real world, but not for the reasons you think.

I mean I have for my 4 years during my Economics degree with hypothetical money as part of a long term project, I beat it every time by a good amount. Which lead to a flood of people trying to get me to invest money for them, years later at reunions I still get asked. But what they don't get no matter how many times I explain it to them is how it changes when you correctly factor in all the real world transaction fees (project used an over simplification) as then I only beat the market constantly by 1~2%.
While that is above a statistical average, it is not worth all the time and effort as I get a much higher and more reliable rate with some gig work. It could work in theory if I had enough money to get institutional rates as that dramatically lower fees, but at that point I would have a muti-million dollar hedge fund company which would be even more work and tedious paperwork to prevent any insider trading claims given the rates I would make.

Also I can't legally do it right now as the market I studied I now work in, so that restricts me from related trades because of the laws and work contracts.

It not that the markets are hard for me to predict, I have been doing it for years, long before I understood the market. As I simply look at qualitative social demand vs over promised solutions. Is there real demand, then it is worth something, is it over hyped trash then sell it before everyone finds out unless it has a critical mass following then hold some for the cult buyback later. Later once I started using math to model these ideas it became a simple matter of just taking a few weeks to understand the market and all connected parts.

What stops me is that all the middle men take too much to make it cost effective for me to compete with large firms, and/or legal structures currently ban me from profitable actions. The system is rigged, I know it well enough to win if I could play.

[Anonymous No.11756904]

>>11756792
it's not exactly hard so much as stressful

[Anonymous No.11756918]

>>11753829
Rewatching End of evangelion

[Anonymous No.11756926]

playing autistic bideogames
working on autistic worldbuilding projects, building maps and calculating basic atmospheric chemistry and orbital dynamics and such for my imaginary worlds
designing fun cellular automata shit and watching my little frens grow
fixing various electronic and mechanical things I can find
taming feral kots

t. certified greater than 89 iq

[Anonymous No.11756986]

[s4s]

[Anonymous No.11756989]

>>11754428
Do you practice expressions in the mirror too?

[Anonymous No.11756990]

>>11753829
Manipulate lower class youth to unseat the government that investigates your sexual deviancy crimes :-)

[Anonymous No.11756992]

>>11756609
Jrpgs are the worst videogames you could be playing. They're designed in such a way that even braindead Japanese bugmen could beat them.

[Anonymous No.11757000]

>>11756173
A psychopath is literally the last person to realize they are one. There was a neuroscientist who spent his life studying them. Did an fmri study on his family members with identities sealed. Found one person was off the charts for psychopathy. He breaks the seal. It was him. He had no clue.

You are describing mimicking human interactions and blackmailing people as a hobby. Those are both highly psychopathic traits and a highly unhealthy life choices. It makes long term open relationships nearly impossible. But if you don't care about that because you have a personality disorder it won't seem like a problem.

A person raping and murdering isn't nessicaryly "unhealthy" for the person doing it. Only for society right?

[Anonymous No.11757005]

>>11757000
>There was a neuroscientist who spent his life studying them. Did an fmri study on his family members with identities sealed. Found one person was off the charts for psychopathy. He breaks the seal. It was him. He had no clue.
The normie fear of psychopaths is absurd. A lot of surgeons and military men probably score high for those traits too. We need people in society who remain cool under pressure and don’t feel emotional baggage when making decisions.

[Anonymous No.11757007]

>>11757000
There is a reason that the term isn’t included in recent DSMs. It is replaced by antisocial personality disorder which includes a diagnostic criterion of “committing crimes” and being a violent person.

[Anonymous No.11757021]

>>11757005
Psychopathy in of itself is not a terrible thing. But it is a disorder. Just like depression or anxiety are not terrible in of themselves. But at high levels it leads to a large number of executive dysfunctions. The emotional baggage you reference also includes aversion to uneeded pain and death. If a person is completely devoid of that then they will order a strike they know is not needed simply because they might continue the war so they can do their job which they enjoy. Psychopaths don't lack emotions they just don't have the ability to engage with them on an executive level meaning their motivations can be utterly corrupt and no one will know until it is too late.

It's not fear, it's called not being retarded. You don't want someone with a mental disorder in charge.

[Anonymous No.11757023]

>>11757007
Like blackmail?

[Anonymous No.11757025]

>>11757021
Nah. You’re referring to antisocial personality disorder. Many psychopaths are ok people. The Midwest boomer fear of them is silly. Cuz Le serial killers. It’s like fearing left handed people. Same epidemic criterion.

[Anonymous No.11757029]

>>11757023
What do you mean blackmail? Quid quo pro is a legitimate practice in law. Unless you are committed to saying that the entire legal system is psychopathic.

[Anonymous No.11757034]

>>11757029
>Quid quo pro

[Anonymous No.11757038]

>>11757034
So if an intelligence officer blackmails a foreign scientist (like an Iranian physicist) and says I will make sure your family and government realizes you are gay unless you tell me things... is that psychopathic?

[Anonymous No.11757040]

>>11757034
The ASPD includes violent crimes. You’d have to be caught killing people or torturing animals or something.

[Anonymous No.11757043]

>>11757023
The primary criminal component to the antisocial personality disorder diagnosis is meaningless violent crime. If you kill someone for revenge or hatred or whatever it doesn’t count. It has to be random meaningless violence.

[Anonymous No.11757045]

Also people can be situationally psychopathic if you will. Like they don’t empathize at all with a group of people (like police officers) due to their political ideology.

[Anonymous No.11757049]

Also, to lower IQ people the high IQ people’s motivations are arcane. The Lower IQ people fear the higher IQ if they are ever their opponents in some conflict. It doesn’t mean the higher IQ are psychopathic just because they decide not to empathize with the Lower IQ. Unless you want to say all meat eaters are psychopaths because they think lower IQ mammals like cows should be eaten.

[Anonymous No.11757104]

>>11753931
This is highly unlikely to be true.

[Anonymous No.11757106]

>>11757104
He just has mastery and flow from doing academic level formal math since age 5. He is smart but if you have someone doing formal math for 20 years then they will be super smart at age 25. I think a lot of people could handle formal math if it was taught appropriately from an early age. Instead we have this abstract retarded common core nonsense to keep kids dumb and make them feel smart for doing busy work hw each night. It’s puritanical moralism. We value hard work over real knowledge. Plus the parents are important. What if you’re a math prodigy but your parents don’t support you and refuse to let you skip grades or attend a private school? It happens. You might have a burdensome overbearing mom and miss out on being a nurtured genius.

[Anonymous No.11757110]

>>11757000
>>11757005
I wasn't insulting him, I was suggesting those aren't high iq hobbies they're just instances of psychopathic behavior. I could care less if he is a psychopath and yes many positions in military and political institutions require psychopaths to work efficiently. That he responded so negatively is understandable, I gave no context to indicate if I was actually being judgmental.
>>11757043
Psychopathy does not require criminal behavior regardless of what psychiatric quacks believe. That doesn't make it necessarily evil, though it is very maladaptive and could not be sustained at a high level in any human population.

[Anonymous No.11757114]

>>11757110
99% of “he/she is a psychopath!” Is just some sore loser faggot upset that they lost in a conflict versus a higher IQ opponent.

[Anonymous No.11757121]

>>11757110
The so called warrior gene involves turning on psychopathic behavior during periods of high stress and then turning it off when the stress subsides.

[Anonymous No.11757126]

>>11757110
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090121093343.htm
So if someone with this gene perceives you as a threat they will act psychopathically to neutralize you and feel justified in doing so. Later they will feel that they weren’t psychopaths and they are just normal people. It’s insane actually.

[Anonymous No.11757145]

>>11757121
>>11757126
single-gene hypothesis for complex behavior are never very convincing. I've heard of this before but its not compelling desu. I don't doubt there are phenotypes that are much more likely to be aggressive and predatory but there isn't a single gene that's responsible for even most of that behavior.
>>11757114
You can believe whatever you want, if you walked into a room and told people including high iq people that you do the things that were suggested in that post as hobbies you would looked at as mentally deranged and a threat to others' safety. I don't particularly care about psychopaths as they are usually low iq, compulsive and small in numbers. High iq psychopathy is probably extremely rare and would not be easily detected, think of MacArthur or Henry Kissinger for instance.

[Anonymous No.11757200]

>>11756897
How many times a day do you masturbate?

[Anonymous No.11757230]

>>11757200
Depends, about once a year in early Fall I get super horny and do it a lot. But most of the time it is spread out averaging about once every 10 days.
What does this have to do with the conversation?

[Anonymous No.11757434]

>>11756897
Teach me senpai

[Anonymous No.11757542]

>>11757434
Just find combinations of problems and solutions, then figure how missed matched they are along with factoring in for market hype and any competition that could intervene.

For example I was working to cut sugar out of my diet along with people I know, but we like ice cream. So I thought sugar free ice cream would solve my problem. Well the stores didn't have any but it seemed like a simple idea that someone had to be doing it. So I found startups that were working on the idea, then compared a number of factors to determine which one was most likely to first make it to the store shelf based on what the stores would want to carry. (That is important, the first customer of the ice cream is the store not the person who eats, you have to pay close attentions to agency here.) So I picked a promising brand, and 6 weeks later I saw it on store shelves and it was selling very well. Then I said earns would drop, so I pulled back but didn't jump ship as a few months later other copy cats emerged some backed by big brands or others smaller startups all driving down price a little. I tested each of them and compared that to other popular foods by taste profiles using organic chemistry. Then picked the one that was most likely to be the main brand along with the one with lowest expected price and split it into those, as those would last for the second wave.

Find problem: no sugar free ice cream
Find solution: few startups making sugar free ice cream
Adjust for agency: who is the one making the decisions and what motives them to pick,
Map money paths: were does the money come from and were does it go, were can you take your cut
Market mismatch and hype: thankfully simple as there was few ads for it at the start
Pitfalls and competitions: strong competition, but predicable time window thanks to FDA polices on frozen diary foods and predicable actors (Unilever is easy to predict, other starts ups are lacking)
Re-evaluate: Market changes over time, so stay ahead

[Anonymous No.11757549]

>>11754428
Are you casually named Johan with last name Liebert?

[Anonymous No.11757552]

IMOchad here
I literally just masturbate, read manga, engage in history/politics and study; I obviously shitpost here too. I have tried to get into playing guitar but I don't have the discipline.

[Anonymous No.11757557]

>>11754193
Do people actually take you seriously when you tell them your hobby is fencing?

[Anonymous No.11757574]

>>11757542
Example two

At party with friends. One of their cell phone battery died, every talking about bad battery life, but not willing to get dumb phone. Later looked battery tech. Found many things, but one tech that I liked had working prototype that was heavily patented with high promise, but shelved. Wondered why given tech was not too far off and had good prospects. It was a sweet spot, significantly better then current things, but realistically could hit market in a few years as it had no hard tech barriers. Unlike others that had only small gains, or were still in experimental phases. It looked like a sure thing, so I looked into the company to find out why they weren't pushing these. CEO had long history of selling small gains and dragging it out for maximum profit, not the risk taker to capitalized on the tech. Marked related patents and terms for tracking and waiting.

Find problem: cell phone batteries died too much
Find solution: many new battery tech being researched, lots of options
Adjust for agency: market wants sweet spot, CEO unlikely to sell tech that meets sweet spot
Map money paths: the patent is the key to the money here, follow it and related things
Market mismatch and hype: other types are better know, CEO is dumb
Pitfalls and competitions: nothing will happen till CEO changes, someone buys patents, or public demands tech they don't know exists
Re-evaluate: Wait for obstacle to be removed then invest in the next battery revolution

It helps that I know a lot about electrical chemistry and global manufacturing. So I can compare battery potential with mass production feasibility. That came for learning and pouring over a lot of data, but I was motivated to prove my Econ Professor wrong about market prediction. I mean the physics on this planet is finite, and individuals and groups have reasonable patterns most of the time, so why can't it all come together. Big data with a more human perspective, for lack of time to go into all the details

[Anonymous No.11757593]

>>11757574
example three

People telling me about smart lady who is making amazing new blood testing kit that will change medicine. Look into it, looks good at first glance, but notice key parts missing from the plan. This doesn't look good, bail fast despite everyone telling me to buy.

Find problem: I didn't think of the problem, if someone tells me then the market already knows and is acting on it window of opportunity likely closed
Find solution: concepts for kit is good, but critical details are missing. An incomplete solution doesn't make money.
Adjust for agency: investors are already muddying the water, hard to tell real value
Map money paths: money only had path into test kits, not clear path out, no clear point to take my cut
Market mismatch and hype: super hype, never good sign (unless it is a one time deal, like bad movie everyone pays for then regrets with no refunds)
Pitfalls and competitions: tech requires can't be made or used reliably, for high accuracy application = Bad
Re-evaluate: Walk away too may things could go wrong,

Turned out is was a massive scam that fell apart hard later on, if i had been wrong I would not have made mad money. But the goal is to only bet on winners, regardless of size as small gain beats a lose every time. a red flag was the mechanize for the detector, while the physics is real the interference rate is too high to be useful without some breakthrough I would have heard about in a white paper somewhere.