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>> No.11637747
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First for 4ASS

>> No.11637752

>>11637742
second for space trannies

>> No.11637753
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shamelesly reposting my post>

what do you guys think we could see for 0g sports/physical activity

i think this will be inmensely profitable once its more or less possible to send people into space.

both for people just wanting to pay to experience it and for the inmense interest it could spawn from the earth.

my favorite one is this:

if there was a swimming pool on the moon you could swim fast enough to jump out of the water like a dolphin , imagine doing this in a semi buried semi domed spa, you jump out of a big pool and see the earth in the distance trough the domed sky.

even people who dont give a shit about spacewill pay for this

thats my main one but i can also think of these:

-0g 3d soccer/handball softball rugby, whatever
ball combination you can think

-0g ballet-artistic dance, holy shit imagine the artistic possibiliteis

-0g erotic dance, holy shit imagine the tit jiggling possibilities, also, on a 0g spherical enclosure you could ejaculate from one end and have the girl catch it with her mouth 300 meters away from you, or maybe even open up her pussy and get impregnated in the most awesome way ever, or catch it mid air.

-0g running

-0g FIGHTING/BOXING/MMA god ddamit imagine the possibilities

and imagine all of the previous options with particular variations for each range of g 0 to 0.1 .1 to .3 .3 to .5 .5 to .8 .8 to 1 and why not sports with more than one g. all of this both in rotating habitats and different bodies. Imagine 2g boxing, that would be brutal.

how about a bodybuilding station with perfect oxygen mix and constant 1.5g all of the time for better musclement

imagine fucking having wings like an angel that work due to low gravity.

what excites you about these possibilities? and which ones do you think will come first?

>> No.11637761

What killed the hype /sfg/????

>> No.11637762

>>11637753
Pole Cube.
Dueling sport where your weapon is a 12ft pole, and the stage is a big cube. Earn points by making contact with your opponent using the designated striking end of the pole. Contact between poles is acceptable, but contacting your opponent with the non-striking part of the pole or your any part of your body is penalized.

I haven't thought of a better name for it.

>> No.11637767

>>11637761
SN4 testing blue balls

>> No.11637772

>see a low g meme
>laugh so hard i fall over and break my coccyx
>slap my knee and dislodge all of the cartilage
>diaphragm seizes as i gulp in high pressure air
ahh high g life, such gains

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>>11637767
>SN4 balls

>> No.11637779

>>11637761
I still have hype but I post less often because this thread is deeply infested by /soc/fag

>> No.11637786

>>11637761
I can't coom until SN4 flies.

>> No.11637805

>>11637762
>Pole Cube
>I haven't thought of a better name for it.
pube

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>>11637753
No law in space so 0g gladiator battles to the death with willing participants in all sorts of wild arenas, text to voice superchat blasted into the arena to make bank because niggers would just pirate it if it was pay to view.

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Lads...

>> No.11637814

>>11637810
I hope the kid gets a good name

>> No.11637816

>>11637814
Stainless Steel Musk

>> No.11637824

>>11637814
Nigger blaster

>> No.11637825

>>11637816
>Steel Musk
Would actually be amazing.

>> No.11637827

>>11637814
Marvin Musk

>> No.11637831

>>11637779
>infested by /soc/fag
You mean that guy who posted a pic of himself here, and then posted it on /soc/ when he got called out here?

>> No.11637838 [DELETED] 

>>11637831
Yeah. I believe that's the same dude that's an obvious newfag

all over
and types
like this

in between reddit-fueled rants full of >obey me

>> No.11637844

>>11637838
Making fags into thread celebrities will just encourage them to show up more often.

>> No.11637855

>>11637844
You're right, deleted

>> No.11637870

>>11637814
Thanos

>> No.11637876
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/sfg/ version of the Conestoga 1620 using rocket candy when?

>> No.11637878
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>>11637855

>> No.11637883

>>11637876
Jesus, how have I never heard of this abomination?

>> No.11637896

>>11637883
80s and 90s commercial space was a wild time

>> No.11637899
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>>11637747
Nice.

>> No.11637905

>>11637883
>abomination
okay, wow, rude

>> No.11637917

>>11637876
>early spacex could have been this
It was for the better it wasn't desu

>> No.11637928

>>11637917
Yeah, I think that Russia trying to rip Elon off was the best thing that could have happened. Spite can really get a project going.
>Fucking ruskies, I'll build my own rocket, with reusability, and hookers

>> No.11637933

>>11637928
>meanwhile Dmitry Rogozin is whispering to himself that Elon is faking how good the Falcon 9 is

>> No.11637935

I swear to god if any more of you sp*nward normies post on anti-spinchan again I'm going to fucking lose it.

>> No.11637940

>>11637814
Musk 2.0, or SN2 for short

>> No.11637949

>>11637935
Seething anti-spinlet

>> No.11637968
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>>11637576

Hoffmanite.

>> No.11638044

>>11637814
He'll name him something super cringy like Luke Cylon Musk.

>> No.11638049

>>11637753
Gundam combat, except it's just people with suits and thrusters on.

>> No.11638051

tom cruise working with spacex and nasa to shoot a movie in space
https://deadline.com/2020/05/tom-cruise-movie-shot-in-outer-space-elon-musk-spacex-unprecedented-in-hollywood-1202925849/

even if it were real, i dont see how it would be possible

>> No.11638090

>>11638051
You could do a one-room drama where the Dragon capsule is the room. You'd come out of it with a reasonable budget for modern movies, and people would go see it for the novelty alone. I don't think Cruise can carry a one-room movie but hey.

>> No.11638111

>>11637814
Cyber men

>> No.11638119

>>11638051
I think it's just getting the plot and such ready for Starship to happen by the end of the decade.
That's actually enough room to film something.

>> No.11638129

>>11637814
Vegeta

>> No.11638142

>>11637806
it would be fun to have one in which pressure is slowly dropping and they have to fight for an oxygen mask

>> No.11638148

>>11637742
Elon Musk’s new child has been born

>> No.11638160 [DELETED] 

>>11638148
he already has a bunch, this is such bullshit, all his previous wives dont get any attention? sure this heterocentric society thinks a man is a winner if he fucks many girls but a girls is a slut if she fucks many guys?!?!?!?

fuck that,
boys should have their dick cut by law if they dont pay child support, which should be DIRECTLY confiscated from salariy and by law all of the wealth of the male has to be divided by all his children, don t like it dont have children patriarch

>> No.11638163

Jesus the attempts to artificially speed up threads with bait are getting extremely pathetic.

>> No.11638174 [DELETED] 

>>11638160
what are you getting at? of course youre right, why say obvious things, what kind of son of a bitch would not pay 100% of the money the mother of his child asks

>> No.11638188 [DELETED] 

>>11638160
>his previous wives dont get any attention?
Both his previous wives are on friendly terms.

>> No.11638198 [DELETED] 

>>11638160
Lol

>> No.11638204 [DELETED] 

>>11638188
with each other? weird and vaguely hot

>> No.11638207 [DELETED] 

>>11638204
Nothing like watching your girlfriend/wife fuck other women

>> No.11638210 [DELETED] 

>>11638204
Yes, that's his requirement for dating. "Must not fuss over ex-wives and must be friends with them" He doesn't want drama.

>> No.11638223

>>11638148
It's a son

>> No.11638224

>>11638051
surely you can't actually shoot a movie in space with how nasally people get in microg

>> No.11638229

>>11637816
>>11637825
I feel like if we'd started earlier we could have memed the man into going with Steel as at least a middle name.

>> No.11638239

>>11638223
This is the sixth boy in a row for Ol Musky

>> No.11638263

>>11637753
-something like Ender's Game, basically 0g 3D laser tag
-something like 0g 3D basketball or something to that effect, anywhere you might have to bring a ball to a goal or multiple goals (pretty sure there was a Batman Beyond episode with exactly that)
-0g mma

Also has anything happened with Starship today?

>> No.11638278

>>11638051
If NASA is involved, maybe they're letting Tom Cruise buy a seat in a Crew Dragon to the ISS. I doubt a movie studio can buy a full Crew Dragon flight as that'll be close to the budget of a blockbuster movie.

>> No.11638301

>>11638278
If you assume a mission cost of $150 million (about one CRS launch) and the non-launch budget were $100 million it would put the cost on par with the Lion King remake or Harry Potter 6, tied with those two for 16th place on the most expensive movies scoreboard.

>> No.11638314

>>11638239
>This is the sixth boy in a row for Ol Musky

No, sadly. It’s his seventh.
His first son died very young,

>> No.11638329

Is it feasible to turn Phobos/ Deimos into a methane making ISRU gas station for starship? What about Ceres? Or is the best move to land on Mars, pay the hit to delta v from the higher gravity well but have aerobraking? I want to explore the outer solar system so bad. Titan base when?

>> No.11638332

How would I destroy quartz and break it up into one silicon atom and four free oxygen atoms?

>> No.11638354

>>11638329
Aerobraking is king
you can go explore Phobos/Deimos after the Mars base is set up and launching

>> No.11638360

remember this
https://youtu.be/WKKLFBeyW7A

>> No.11638363

>>11638360
Dunno, how about you give us a working link cunt.

>> No.11638369

>>11638301
It's either Tom Cruise will be a spaceflight participant on the ISS or do that Space Adventures thing that goes higher than ISS thing.

>> No.11638373
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJpVo_FovIE
Well, since NASASpaceflight stream had some us entertained yesterday, might as well link it for anyone who feels like watching or as back ground noise, TYP.

>> No.11638392

>>11638160
>>11638239
>>11638314
>thought Elon was based awkward datinglet like anon
>turns out he has a shit ton of kids from a few hot ex-wives who he's on friendly terms with
Well fuck me

>>11638373
So testing is tonight or sometime soon then?

>> No.11638411

>>11638363
it's not MY fault that nomadd decided to delete and reupload this video but with estronaut's watermark uncropped
https://youtu.be/RUwZUFtT26k

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>>11638373
No idea if anything is scheduled tonight unless stated on Starship site, a public document or something, just regular testing, there's just some small venting and pad was cleared 30 minutes ago.

>> No.11638448

>>11637814
Legion

>> No.11638455

shame really, Elon‘s new kid has to grow up homeless

>> No.11638457
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>11638455

>> No.11638458

>>11638455
Living in a repurposed SNx Hull sounds pretty sweet tho.

>> No.11638468

>>11638373
static fire happening soon maybe

>> No.11638485

>>11638435
Kek never seen that ceiling before. Unbelievably based.

>> No.11638490

>>11638373

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx6LrpOj8l8
Everyday astronaut’s stream of it.

>> No.11638495
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>>11638490
>Open Everyday astronaut’s stream
>New Virgin Valactic video is first on recommended
>MFW

>> No.11638511

>intern leaned on the light switch
>stream loses their minds

>> No.11638525
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>> No.11638526

It's so awkward when they speak with Mary. Is she autistic?

>> No.11638531

>>11638526
Was thinking this too lmao.

>> No.11638538
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>>11638525
Beautiful New baby Musk. He shall be named, Noah Musk.

>> No.11638550

>>11638525
That’s wonderful. Children are lovely.

>> No.11638557

>>11638526
>Is she autistic?
She is into meme rocket company.
So yes

>> No.11638583
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Listen to this faggot,
>do you feel the heat from 1mile away when methane flare lights up

Are they stupid or what

>> No.11638587

>>11638526
no she's Texan

>> No.11638594

Mary is retired, and NSF is making her stay out overnight.
This is cruel

>> No.11638596

Getting frosty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJpVo_FovIE

>> No.11638597

>>11638490
Useless annoying full of himself

>> No.11638601

SN is getting frosty.

>> No.11638602

So Elon isn't there today? Busy with baby

>> No.11638607

>>11638587
Same thing

>> No.11638608

>>11638607
no you're thinking of Finland

>> No.11638617

Someone from Artemis program will be in my uni's online gues lecture. What should I ask?

>> No.11638619

>>11638617
what propellant the Dynetics lander uses, and the dv split between the drop tanks and the lander

>> No.11638622
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>>11638617

>> No.11638628
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>>11638596
>>11638490
Which is better quality? Left imo

>> No.11638629

>>11638622
>Human Computer Interface Technical Discipline Lead, NASA
hmmmmmmm
ask him if any of the landers have baselined joysticks for manual control
>>11638628
if you can have both open, do it
they're from different angles

>> No.11638630

>>11638628
I meant right.

>> No.11638633
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>>11638630
Spoke too soon

>> No.11638636

>>11638329
It takes more delta V to aerocapture at Mars and transfer to Phobos propulsively than it does to aerocapture and aerobrake to landing on Mars. The planet is also far more volatile-rich than either of its tiny moons.

>> No.11638637

>>11638332
Heat, alternatively you could expose it to very strong ionizing radiation

>> No.11638639

Detanking?

>> No.11638646

have they test fired it?
im just tuning in

>> No.11638647

BRAAAAAAAAP

>> No.11638649
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>> No.11638650

preburner

>> No.11638651

Can't believe the amount of time I have spent looking at this tin can

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>>11638649

>> No.11638654
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>>11638652

>> No.11638658

That looked like a fucking fart, not a static fire. So yeah, it was likely a pre-burner test.

>> No.11638660
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*SNIFF*

>> No.11638663

>>11638649
>Watching estronaut stream
>t. cuck

>> No.11638664

>>11638663
enjoy your >>11638633

>> No.11638665

Why does everyday astronaut has 4x views of nsf
How do people tolerate his voice

>> No.11638666

>>11638665
NSF cam/stream is fucked.

>> No.11638671
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>>11638666
Yep. Shit stream.

>> No.11638675

>>11638666
By the looks of it, Everday Astronaut is using like have or quarter the bitrate. NSF need to stop trying to stream 8k quality.

>> No.11638679

But I don't want to watch estronauts stream, he's insufferable.

>> No.11638681

>>11638675
Whatever the case, they don't intend to fix it from their end.

>> No.11638683
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>>11638633
Checked.
Best Quality.

>> No.11638691

>drone flying

>> No.11638696

>>11638681
maybe eday astonut is eating up the bandwidth. Thats why nsf isn't able to stream

>> No.11638700

so spadre is providing evday with the stream. I thought he and mary were friends.

>> No.11638718

Elon is actually selling is home(s). I thought he was just memeing.
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/10911-Chalon-Rd-Los-Angeles-CA-90077/20529102_zpid/
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/10930-Chalon-Rd-Los-Angeles-CA-90077/20529065_zpid/

>> No.11638727

stable stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cbqsu4yYMI

>> No.11638735

RIP
Roscosmos's General designer for crewed programs and the General Designer of RSC Energia, Evgeny Mikrin, passed away in hospital due to #COVID19.

>> No.11638752

>>11638735
RIP
Damn shame that lifter never got to see any use outside the single Buran lift.

>> No.11638759

>>11638700
i wanna nut in mary

>> No.11638760

>>11638718
Mars one's must be ready then.

>> No.11638767

>>11638718
Ew he has some shit taste in houses

>> No.11638771

>>11638752
I think this was the VIP reported to be at the last Soyuz launch.

>> No.11638795

>>11638718
Where the hell is he gonna live then

>> No.11638798
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>>11638795
Diogenes of Boca Chica.

>> No.11638799

>>11638795
In some shed at Boca Chica probably, odds are he hasn't been at most of his houses in forever anyway. Sleeping mid-travel is probably his main way of resting atm.

>> No.11638806

>>11638799
Sounds nasty. I like having a house to accumulate memories and shit at

>> No.11638813

FUCKING EXPLODED AND TOOK THE TANK FARM HAHAHAHAHA

>> No.11638823

>>11638813
Why do you even bother?

>> No.11638824

>>11637753
>swimming pool
I suspect water would move much more than on Earth, the waves you make swimming could make the experience not so enjoyable
>Imagine 2g boxing, that would be brutal.
Think about two boxers fighting here on earth with heavy suits.
They would hardly be able to stand, the match could become more similar to sumo wrestling.
>imagine fucking having wings like an angel that work due to low gravity.
Definitely possible in very low gravity, also other kinds of human powered flying like bicycles.
What I'm saying is we lack the direct experience to figure out this well, but it's probably true we would invent many sources of amusement.

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>>11638813
HOLY SHIT IT"S REAL

>> No.11638833

Getting steamier again. I like it.

>> No.11638868

15 minutes left!

>> No.11638873

4:57 CDT

>> No.11638888

big flare

>> No.11638889

braaaappp
no ignition ; ~;

>> No.11638892

abort

>> No.11638896

God damn fucking cock teasing.

>> No.11638897

Oh well, she's still on the pad at least

>> No.11638898

ahahahahahahaha amerisharts who stayed up for this btfo

>> No.11638900

thank god I just started watching

>> No.11638901

Where the hell is the frost, god dammit it's all fake isn't it

>> No.11638906

>>11638901
It's condensation. Liquid oxygen and liquid methane is cold.

>> No.11638911

>>11638898
Nigga I got up early, I'm all cozy with a hot drink and no responsibilities
Reminder that if you aren't getting up early you aren't going to make it. Personally I get up at 3, 3:30 am. If you wanna get up past 4 am it's over for you, you may as well be getting up at 4 pm.

>> No.11638913

>>11638906
Where, not what. The tanks are clean. They should be white with a layer of frost.

>> No.11638917

God damn, imagine watching the stream from Mars with a 22 minute delay during their fifth attempt to launch back to Earth after two outright scrubs, an engine ignition failure, and a T=0 scrub over the previous two days

>> No.11638919

>>11638913
That's if it stay in for a long time, they've been filling, venting, waiting, filling, venting, waiting, doing a small preburner brraaap, waiting, filling, venting, waiting.
It doesn't get to build a thick layer on the surface when you're doing that. There is a thin layer though.

It's not at 8 bars like the old tests either for that matter. The pipes are probably nice and frosted though.

>> No.11638921

>>11638911
if you're posting on a tibetan basket weaving fourm at 4am, you're not gonna make it

>> No.11638923

>>11638608
>:(

>> No.11638944

>>11638917
If they get enough bandwidth to stream in real time and not take like a whole day to transmit a 5 minute video clip that is

>> No.11638946

>>11638735
Oh no. RIP

>> No.11638950
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>>11638813
I mean not really

>> No.11638954

>>11638944
implying elon won't bring a starship full of starlink sats to mars for terabit internet

>> No.11638956

Has the Chinky rocket exploded yet?

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>>11638735
not a another hero :(

>> No.11638965

>>11638944
One of the first things they're gonna do is set up a global GPS constellation with hardware heavily based on Starlink, probably with a single launch, maybe even using Falcon Heavy, in order to get very accurate target positioning on the ground for future Starship pinpoint landings. High bandwidth will be a secondary benefit. They'll also probably end up selling a good chunk of that bandwidth to NASA and other space agencies operating on and around Mars, scratching yet another thing off the list of activities in space that retards have always claimed would never be something a private company would do.

>> No.11638966

>>11638956
sadly no it succeeded

>> No.11638969

>>11638956
no but a village underneath did

>> No.11638976

>>11638090
We could always film a RUD involving the Dragon and Tom...

>> No.11638992

>>11638969
A Philippino village!

>> No.11638993
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>> No.11638998

>>11638993
I don't like the legs. That shit is way too much like landing on an engine bell in KSP.

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>> No.11639015

>>11637814
It's "X Ae A 12" lmao

>> No.11639017

>>11638965
You would really only need like 3-6 sats in areostationary orbit to have Earth comms 24/7. There won't be any need for a Starlink like network on Mars for a long time. Mars-Mars comms will be mostly local and ground based for a long while, and latency for areostationary sats will only have about a 1 second delay for comms between different outposts.
There's no benefit to having a Starlink type constellation as far as Mars-Earth comms are concerned.

>> No.11639019

>>11639015
I wonder if that’s a joke, but knowing him and Grimes, I think there’d a real possibility it isn’t. I think it’s kind of cool

>> No.11639024
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>>11638998
It was good enough for Apollo

>> No.11639025

>>11639017
You need at least 4 overhead at any one time to have a functioning global positioning system IIRC

>> No.11639026

>>11639024
The LEM was a magnitude smaller.

>> No.11639030

>>11639026
Only one magnitude?
It was less than twenty tons. Starship is over a thousand tons.

>> No.11639037

>>11639030
A couple then. Either way, those legs look fucking silly with that tall ass donger of a rocket. Looks like if you'll bump it on the elevator ride down and you're stranded on the moon.

>> No.11639042

>>11638998
well it won't land with the bottom engines. The lunar lander model has small thrusters on the side for landing and takeoff

>> No.11639043

>>11639042
That was not the point of the post.

>> No.11639046

>>11639037
they are small relative to the rocket but they're still pretty massive on their own; taller than a person

>> No.11639048

>>11639043
Either way the legs look small because the rocket is big. In reality the legs are pretty damn big on their own

>> No.11639050

>>11638622
Starting in one hour, any other questions I should ask?

>> No.11639052

>>11639025
Well yes I suppose if they were to combine the GPS and communications satellites into one that would make sense.
Though I think you might still want an aerostationary network for redundancy. Having a fixed point in the sky to aim a dumb dish at is more rugged and reliable to those on the ground than the automated tracking antennas that Starlink needs.

>> No.11639062

michael sheetz will work on the tom cruise story today, maybe we'll get more info soon

>> No.11639065

>>11639024
*cronch*

>> No.11639070

>>11638636
It may be useful for the return journey though.
I'm not the previous poster, but a base on Phobos would be pretty awesome and way more useful than the ISS.

>> No.11639071

>>11639052
They could probably do an aerostationary constellation and a GPs constellation with the same launch, just deploy everything in MMO and have 12 of the sats raise their orbits to AMO while the rest drop down to LMO (or wherever you put a geostationary satellite, idk).

>> No.11639073

>>11638525
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqNbHjYeFbg

>> No.11639079

>>11639070
>It may be useful for the return journey though.
Nah, Starship has enough gas in the tanks when full to go straight from Mars' surface to Earth intercept, no problem.
I agree that Phobos and Deimos will be super useful of course, just not as propellant depots. Rather, they will serve as a perfect proving ground for milli-g mining operations required for exploiting asteroid resources, and later as a gigantic reserve of raw materials already just sitting in perfect equatorial Mars orbits.
Mars is seriously the perfect planet to try to live on as a space faring civilization, you literally could not ask for anything better.

>> No.11639081

>>11638301
>CRS launch
I'm expecting Starship. It wouldn't be the first Starship flight lined up so far.
At least now there are plenty of super HD digital cameras small enough to be useful in a spam can.
Still, they're gonna need at least one other warm body going up as the cameraman, you aren't going to put tiny RCS on a camera and have some guy in an office in LA control it. But I think you could get away with that for the director.

>> No.11639083

>>11639079
>Nah, Starship has enough gas in the tanks when full to go straight from Mars' surface to Earth intercept, no problem.
No it won't.
They're aiming for this clunker to have enough to land on the moon once and go back. There's no fucking way it's going to have enough fuel to make it to Mars and back on one tank.

>> No.11639084

>>11639079
>Mars is seriously the perfect planet to try to live on as a space faring civilization, you literally could not ask for anything better.

Humans flexing on aliens who didn’t have a perfect colonization target a hop away

>> No.11639087

>>11639083
>There's no fucking way it's going to have enough fuel to make it to Mars and back on one tank.

It refuels on the Martian surface via the Sabatier process.

>> No.11639088

>>11639083
Hey asshole, it's going to have FULL tanks sitting on Mars because they're going to be making propellant there for it to refill with. Also the surface of Mars is easier to get to in terms of delta V than the surface of the Moon anyway, because the intercept burns are nearly identical and you hardly need to slow down propulsively at Mars at all, whereas at the Moon you need to capture and land using pure rocket power only, no aerobraking.

>> No.11639092

>>11639083
Were you born last week or something? They've been pretty clear about ISRU plans since before Starship was even the name

>> No.11639096

>>11639092
I'm full of painkillers so I misunderstood the post.

>> No.11639104

>>11639084
This, the great filter is probably the fact that most planets smaller than Earth probably form too close to their home stars to be feasibly accessed because big delta V to intercept and no atmosphere to brake with (mercury) and any planet bigger than Earth is even harder to launch from.
>but what about big moons
Earth's big ass moon seems to be a major anomaly and we can't count on it being a standard or even somewhat common thing to have. If our own moon were tiny or non existent, the nearest moon-sized object would be Callisto, and it's too far to feasibly reach with reusable rocket technology even if you assume high performance NTR is available.

Basically we got really good RNG with this star system and we need to take advantage of that fact.

>> No.11639105

ive played ksp for 54 hours and ive never made it back from orbit. ive never made it to the moon. i am a brainlet doomed to eternal retardation. im sorry /sfg/

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>>11638525
The question everyone (in Texas) wants to know, was the kid born in Texas?

>>11638538
>Noah
That's pretty decent, not cringe at all... unless his middle name is "Ark".

>> No.11639108

>>11639092
And I am full of a BBC in the butt, so I misunderstood too.

>> No.11639111

>>11639104
>Basically we got really good RNG with this star system
It's a pity that Venus and Mars weren't swapped though.

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Reminder that they literally had this thing READY TO GO IN 2011 and they cancelled it anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjQ0j1a9RcA
RIP J-2X

>> No.11639128

>>11639104
Earth's moon is anomalous among planets as a whole but probably not among planets that support complex life. If there is a great filter it's not really one thing it's the sheer mass of confounding factors that make the transition from single celled life nearly impossible. Once you get past that stage almost all of the hard work is over, relatively speaking.

>>11639105
54 hours is babby, keep at it

>> No.11639132

>>11639105
rip

>> No.11639135

>>11639128
>If there is a great filter it's not really one thing it's the sheer mass of confounding factors that make the transition from single celled life nearly impossible.

Single-celled life easily evolved multicellularity when exposed to selection pressures that encourage it.

>> No.11639141

>>11639111
No that'd be shit. Venus is about as hard to escape as Earth, just from gravitational forces alone. Mars if put as close to the Sun as Venus would be very dry and have no atmosphere, it'd be pretty much impossible to contemplate serious manned missions at all with any realistic technology. Swapping Mars and Venus may leave us with a possibly habitable Venus, but that's not what we want anyway. We want a mid to low gravity world with lots of ices and a thin atmosphere with tiny low gravity moons orbiting it, pretty please, because we want to be able to focus efforts from our home world to colonizing this new world in order to let us go a step beyond and colonize literally everything else from there.

>> No.11639143

>>11639128
There's nothing about having a big moon that matters for supporting complex life. Tides being vital are a meme, rotational axis being stable over billions of years is a meme. It doesn't matter.

>> No.11639155

>>11639135
Once the groundwork is set, sure, it's easy. Just gotta get the perfect planetary conditions for that process to even start and then give it a few billion years where it's constantly under threat of overbalancing in one way or another that makes it unfit.

>>11639143
>rotational axis being stable over billions of years is a meme
How?

>> No.11639166

>tfw the early solar system had at least 3 earthlike planets
If it was still like that we would've had space colonies in the 60s.

>> No.11639172

>>11639155
>Just gotta get the perfect planetary conditions for that process to even start

Rocks and water. Oooo super specific conditions. Life doesn’t even need the sun. Bacteria live which metabolize stone.

>> No.11639174

>>11639128
>If there is a great filter it's not really one thing it's the sheer mass of confounding factors that make the transition from single celled life nearly impossible.

Multicellularity likely evolved multiple times even on Earth. It is not some kind of statistical rarity at all.

If there is a Great Filter, then it is likely either origin of life being extremely rare, or origin of intelligence being extremely rare.

>> No.11639177

Did the rocket fail to ignite, or were they not doing that today?

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>>11639166
imagine if we lived in the TRAPPIST-1 system

>> No.11639190

>>11639177
Supposedly they did a preburner test. >>11638649 >>11638650

>> No.11639192

>>11639179
life on a tidally locked planet sounds like shit

>> No.11639200

>>11639177
static fire may also have been aborted at 4:57 CDT

>> No.11639206

>>11639155
>How?
Generalists anon, generalists. Multicellular life on Earth evolved over hundreds of millions of years of the rotational axis being more or less where it is today, which means that a good amount of complex plants and animals are highly adapted to their specific climate conditions. On a world where the degree of axial tilt can vary over a few million years between close to zero and close to 45 degrees, these hyper specialized organisms simply wouldn't evolve in niches where they couldn't be mobile enough to migrate to better areas or simply be generalistic enough to hunker down and survive. In fact, a rapidly changing environment is what lead directly to the evolution of humans from less intelligent apes, because as Africa dried up and we were forced out of the trees, we were also forced to use our brains to think of more efficient and effective ways of gathering food. Fast forward a few hundred thousand years and we're jerking off to giant anime tits on fictional 12 year olds.
I defy anyone to tell me that rats and dandelions could not survive on a planet with a variable climate.

Oh, also, while rotational axis certainly matters a lot for our planet's climate specifically, it'd have less effect the more surface area was covered in water and the denser the atmosphere. For planets orbiting lower mass stars than the Sun, with much shorter years, rotational axis matters even less, because even if it were tilted by 90 degrees the planet would have sunlight falling on every square kilometer of land every few weeks, for a few weeks. Also at some point the tidal effects of the star have the same effect of stabilizing rotational axis anyway, and planets around red dwarf stars locked in 3:2 orbital resonances could end up with a 100 hour long stellar day-night cycle that would be stable for hundreds of billions of years.

Basically stop thinking that having a big moon is the only way to solve the problem, or that the problem would even BE a problem.

>> No.11639208

>>11639172
Life starting isn't the process I'm talking about, I'm talking about the process that produces complex life. You could potentially have the necessary conditions for life to start all over the solar system, but it took perfect conditions and billions of years to end up with complex motile life.

>>11639174
Basically same response as above. Yes, multicellularity itself isn't that uncommon. But we're only interested in the jump which leads to animalia-like life. Bacterial colonies, plants, fungi, etc. do not fulfill our requirements.

>> No.11639222

>>11637810
Is it a jello baby?

>> No.11639224

>>11639206
You realize our planet didn't need conditions to be any worse than they already were to have massive periodic swings in climate, right? What you're suggesting is not akin to swings experienced by men but constant swings between different worldwide apocalyptic conditions, meaning you would end up with some very hardy life but not very complex life.

>> No.11639229

>>11639208
>But we're only interested in the jump which leads to animalia-like life. Bacterial colonies, plants, fungi, etc. do not fulfill our requirements.

That’s too vague when talking about anything that isn’t Earth life.

>> No.11639230

>>11639121
Looks a bit over complicated. Like some committee designed it for grant bux.

>> No.11639242

>>11639224
no

>> No.11639252

>>11639192
it's basically just a ring world with actual gravity

>> No.11639255

>>11639229
The basics would apply anywhere that matters.

>>11639242
yeah

>> No.11639277

>>11639121
You don‘t need solids if you got a few of these on your rocket. And they really need you to need solids.

>> No.11639283

>>11638525
Elon’s hands are fuckin huge.

>> No.11639292

>>11639283
babies are just small, anon

>> No.11639294

>>11639283
Grip strength is a big predictive factor in general health and lifespan
Hands of Chad

>> No.11639295

>>11639283
Whoever wrote his biography (some bitch idk) made it a point to mention he has massive hands

>> No.11639297

>>11639283
Newborns are also really tiny, but his hands do seem pretty big

>> No.11639311

>>11639297
>>11639283
Fist me daddy, I want to coom.

>> No.11639319

>>11638314
>seventh male son

so is he... is he a werewolf??!!

>> No.11639343

>>11638799
>Sleeping mid-travel is probably his main way of resting atm.
Based lifestyle. I wish I could do something like that. I don't really care about a 'home'. I always say that home is where my desk is.

>> No.11639358

>>11639319
Probably. His first six sons are all from his first wife, and every one of them except for the first son who died of SIDS before turning 1 is the product of IVF and was part of a multiple birth. Twins in 2004 and triplets in 2006. Quite a fertile man.

>> No.11639359

>>11637753
3D Rollerskating in a 0 to low-G centripetal gravity wheel.
You would have wheels above and below the shoes plus on a hooky hand.
The centripetal gravity is only needed so you can jump and convert that effort into speed on a slope. With enough speed you would fly toward the 0-G center of the space-skatepark, up there you would use your hand-hook to grab a metal bar and follow it as it turn around, with inertia guiding you. Done right you could swirl around it regardless.

I imagined it once for a SF I had in mind.
Only problem with it is that you would easily get enough speed to kill yourself.

>> No.11639369

>>11639141
wtf dude? a second habitable world next to us would have been the absolute best case szenario. of course venus and mars should have swapped places back then before everything on those worlds went to shit

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Yo, whoever makes the next thread should put Elon’s new baby edition.

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>>11637753
I'd watch this in low G.

>> No.11639380

>>11639369
>wtf dude? a second habitable world next to us would have been the absolute best case szenario.
Depends on what your objectives are. Great for research, but not a great platform for further expansion as it wouldn't be any better than Earth to launch from. Plus habitable is relative, an existing ecosystem doesn't mean you can just take off your helmet and breathe

>> No.11639395

>>11639380
>but not a great platform for further expansion as it wouldn't be any better than Earth to launch from

Yeah but you can expand on that big ass planet

>> No.11639404

>>11639395
Imagine the absolute pain in the ass contamination would be. So many people would be pissed if we wipe out half the ecosystem with influenza. There's also the fact there might be viruses or other things that we have zero immunity to. Would be really cool, but mars is probably better from a pure colonization mode.

>> No.11639406

>>11639001
what's this

>> No.11639410

>>11638795
Probably some trailer in the Boca Chica cannery

>> No.11639412

>>11639406
looks like a concept for two starships producing centrifugal gravity with a tether

>> No.11639413

>>11639404
>So many people would be pissed if we wipe out half the ecosystem with influenza.

Kill the entire local ecosystem and kill anyone who complains about it.

>> No.11639414

We should advance AI, robotics and efficient resource refining so that we can launch a colony pack at a planet site and it will construct a full town for when colonists get there
>Lob a tower at a good landing site
>It lands and secured itself into the ground
>The tower orchestrates a swarm of robots that dig, collect valuable materials and build a base (preferably in the same architectural style as the tower so it fits in as part of it)
>The City grows while the tower and swarm robots build and maintain it

>> No.11639415

>>11639105
I've played it for a week or two total and I've already got lunar satellites. No landings yet tho

>> No.11639420

>>11638525
What's his name?

>> No.11639422

>>11639413
You're just back in another scenario where you'd be better off with current day Mars kek

>> No.11639432

>>11639380
first this >>11639395

and also if you need a low gravity place for launching stuff away, you could use any place in the solar system which isn't on a big planet. the existence of another earth like planet doesn't prohibits that

>> No.11639434

>>11638392
>Well fuck me
He's a succesful atractive tall and relatively muscular for a guy who doesnt work out, hes not only succesful financially he's basically worshiped by a large portion of the american population, also good facial aesthetics and an interesting story.

you basically couldnt stay a virgin in that position even if you tried, unless youre tesla

>> No.11639435

>>11639376
That is a crown prince of Mars. HAIL!

>> No.11639437

>>11639083
they have isru, also you do understand that going to mars and going to the moon spends more or less the same fuel right?

>> No.11639438

>>11639437
Yes, thank you for clearing that up 3 hours and 20 minutes after the misunderstanding was cleared up.

>> No.11639439

>>11639179
mmmm trap system, as soon as you land they take you to their trap emperor to be fucked by the trap council and see if youre worthy of staying as a concubine

>> No.11639440

>>11639179
Their feminine penises must be exquisite.

>> No.11639442

Is anything interesting happening today?

>> No.11639444

>>11639438
>lants and animals are highly adapted to their specific climate conditions. On a world where the degree of axial tilt can vary over a few million years between close to zero and close to 45 degrees, these hyper specialized organisms simply wouldn't evolve in niches where they couldn't be mobile enough to migrate to better areas or simply be generalistic enough to hunker down and survive. I

thanky ou for fucking yourself with a rusty pipe

>> No.11639445

>>11639420
Elon may have not been serious, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he was. He said it’s “X Æ A-12 Musk” on Twitter

>> No.11639447

>>11639432
>you could use any place in the solar system which isn't on a big planet.
Mars and the Moon are the two best places and despite being farther away Mars has distinct advantages in its more complete resource profile and ability to aerocapture/aerobrake. You'd be taking out the best option.

Also just to point out, even if Venus had most of the CO2 frozen out of its atmosphere from being further away from the Sun, it would still have a gratuitously thick atmosphere that, at best, would suck to live with

>> No.11639450

>>11639442
Life is full of interesting things

>> No.11639453

>>11639422
No because it’s bigger, has more resources, has oceans, and a magnetic field

>> No.11639457

>>11639447
Lock the remaining nitrogen up in a biosphere

>> No.11639459
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Oh the Chinese launched their newest space capsule? It's probably going to be the second or third best spacecraft after Starship and Dragon 2.

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>>11639380
>>11639404
>>11639395
Another inhabitable planet? That's a thousand kind of impossible and we didn't talk about the details. If the planet is capable of supporting life but by chance we were the first one to have an intelligent species, you would still likely have a ecosystem that doesn't interact with ours well.
If we are lucky we genocide the planet by accident.
If we are unlucky the first probe meant to bring back sample contaminate us with a deadly life-form that require us to nuke our own planet just to be safe.

>> No.11639480

>>11639467
>If the planet is capable of supporting life but by chance we were the first one to have an intelligent species, you would still likely have a ecosystem that doesn't interact with ours well.

Why not? If anything, they’d be directly related because of how sturdy microbes are

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>>11639459
>It's probably going to be the second or third best spacecraft after Starship and Dragon 2.

It’s far superior to Dragon. It’s a Chinese Orion-equivalent designed for both LEO and lunar spaceflight, it’s also partially reusable (up to 10 times) and uses Starliner-style airbags for landing.

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>>11639485
I was just about to post a pic of the airbags.

>> No.11639490

>>11639485
>It’s far superior to Dragon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT6kblEmGGc

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>>11639489
An inflatable re-entry heat shield...

>> No.11639499 [DELETED] 

>>11639485
>Dragon XL blocks your path
... they are still planning that thing despite the Lunar Starship news, right?

>> No.11639502

>>11639485
>Chinese tech
>Good

Chasing that social credit?

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>>11639480
All you are saying is that it might interact. It doesn't mean well.
It'd be 50/50 chance we are better sterilizing it, and if we are really unlucky it will make us think its safe then we will discovers a parasite harmless to us but capable of genociding Earth, then US indirectly because we might still be dependent on our original ecosystem.

>> No.11639508

>>11639499
Dragon XL isn't a manned spacecraft.

>> No.11639509

>>11639088
How much delta V required to go from low mars orbit (say 200 km) to surface of mars?
>>11639493
That small circle in middle is the capsule? Do you have an animation? Is the inflatable part ablative?

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>>11639489
>>11639493
That inflatable heat shield is just a secondary payload onboard the CZ-5B, it’s not part of the capsule.

>> No.11639516

>>11639508
Oh, my bad

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>>11639485
chinkoid Apollo 8 style lunar flyby when?
that would really kick everyone else into shape

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>>11639121
It got it's funding canceled because the Shuttle parts of the program somehow needed even more funding to reuse components that already existed.

>> No.11639519

>>11639509
>That small circle in middle is the capsule? Do you have an animation? Is the inflatable part ablative?
https://twitter.com/AJ_FI/status/1257652935862910977

>>11639510
I just read that now.

>> No.11639524

>>11639517
Nah, it wouldn't. The US has already sent people around the moon, so China matching that feat isn't going to stir up any one in the US government. The public wouldn't care either because the Chinese aren't white.

>> No.11639529

>>11639442
yes elon baby designed it first rocket and called one of his nurses a pedophile

>> No.11639531

>>11639509
>How much delta V required to go from low mars orbit (say 200 km) to surface of mars?

Only enough to start hitting the atmosphere and perform a small landing burn. The Curiosity probe killed over four thousand meters per second of velocity by hitting the atmosphere and slowed down to 100 meters a second using a parachute

>> No.11639536

>>11639524
>working capsule and manned lunar orbits done before SLS even flies
>setting up for their own touchdown and potential moonbases before Artemis even gets underway
>pictures of chinkoid flag on moon plastered everywhere
I think it would desu

>> No.11639539

>>11639536
>China doing any of those things

Lol

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>>11639493
>>11639489
Incredible, why do we hear so little about this in non-Mandarin? This is the first time since IRDT an inflatable decelerator (heat shield is a wrong term) re-enters the atmosphere. Much more interesting than a relatively ordinary EFT-1 like test of a conical capsule.

>> No.11639547

>>11639510
Muskfags would call that "iterative development". But they are faggots anyway

>> No.11639555

>>11639524
>The US has already sent people around the moon, so China matching that feat isn't going to stir up any one in the US government.
It's been stirring up the US government for a few years now. It's the reason why the Space Development Agency proposed building Lunar interceptors and why the Air Force is putting out contracts for companies to build Lunar sensor networks.

>> No.11639557

>>11639543
and no, IRVE doesn't count, it was suborbital - an unusual profile for a decelerator of that kind, in terms of peak heating/total heat load tradeoff

>> No.11639561

>>11639536
The Chinese program is still behind Artemis even with SLS slowing that program down.

>> No.11639563

>>11639519
Fantastic animation. Has this been done before? I love aerodynamics so super curious.
Still don't understand when ablation occurs

>> No.11639567

>>11639555
>chinks finally make it to the moon and are forced to turn around by an Enforcer class Lunar Starship

>> No.11639577

>>11639567
Moon is china! here rook, ancient map say so

>> No.11639579

>>11639577
I'd imagine alot of activists back in America would support that.

>> No.11639585

>>11639543
Idk but I feel like it's the language barrier. Chinese is hard as fuck and not many people in the spaceflight community seem to know it.

>>11639563
Don't know if this has been done before.

>> No.11639600

>>11639585
Yes but why don't they advertise it in English, then fucking complain about racism because no one outside China gets it. Inflatable decelerators are genuinely awesome and underdeveloped just like tethered systems, this is literally cutting edge rocket engineering. Low landing accuracy is a thing to be tamed, not a thing to be ashamed of.

>> No.11639604

>X Æ A-12 Musk

>> No.11639609

>>11639604
James Tiberius Musk when?

>> No.11639611

>>11639600
>Yes but why don't they advertise it in English, then fucking complain about racism because no one outside China gets it
I don't think the Chinese government ever cared about if the West was hyped for their space program.

>> No.11639630
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11639630

It such a pain in the ass to find any updates about chinese launch.
Launch stream on bilibili was nuked for no apparent reason so missed everything.

>> No.11639638

>>11639630
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixETcu9zH04

>> No.11639639
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11639639

How do you keep this from happening?

>> No.11639641

>>11639585
>Chinese is hard as fuck
Mao shouldn't have listened to Stalin when trying to replace the writing with Latin alphabet. Stalin literally said that all great civilizations have their own writing, Mao listened to the advice, and now they have a huge problem with this, unlike Vietnamese for example. The language itself is dead simple, it's the writing that is hard.

>>11639611
You have to be kidding me. I remember when they first launched the Tiangong-2. The broadcast was translated in realtime to perfect English, Russian, Japanese, and several other languages, which is extremely unusual for chinks. It's clear they care a lot, they just aren't experienced in PR. Their unmanned program (Chang'e mostly so far) is also very transparent, they even have a public archive much like PDS archive of NASA/JPL, I distinctly remember Emily Lakdawalla of Planetary Society developing Yutu RAWs from the source.

>> No.11639643

>>11639639
spending a little while stretching and walking around inside before going for first steps

>> No.11639648

>>11639639
Quarantine for like a day (or however long is necessary) before doing EVA? Astronauts spend more than Mars journey lengths in microgravity pretty regularly, just follow whatever their regime for getting reacquainted on Earth is but tone it down by two thirds

>> No.11639656
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11639656

>>11639630

>> No.11639659

>>11639639
simulated gravity on the starship via:
>>11639001

>> No.11639660

>>11639509
>Is the inflatable part ablative?
The whole point of making an inflatable decelerator is to decelerate the craft (due to the increased ballistic coefficient), to make a shallow reentry, and to lower the peak heating. It's a decelerator, not a head shield. Besides defying the main point, you simply can't make it ablative I think. Only the nose can be made ablative, like a traditional heatshield. The rest is polymer. (kevlar or something like that)

The downside is that controlling this thing for accurate landings is much harder. I wonder what they're going to do about this.

>> No.11639666

>>11639659
will never work since starship will have to constantly reorient itself for radiation protection
>>11639648 is right, we've spend long periods in microgravity before it's an issue but not one we haven't dealt with

>> No.11639670

>>11639641
I live in Macau and I can say that there is no hype in the media about whatsoever about current mission whatsoever.
There wasn't even separate translation on central dellevision, it was just in the middle of news block.
No idea why it this way, maybe they afraid of bad PR is something will go wrong.

>> No.11639671

>>11637814
Grimey Musk

>> No.11639682

>>11639406
The spinpill that oldspace doesn't want you to take.

>> No.11639686

>>11639670
Is there any info available on 9ifly or something like that?

>> No.11639704

>>11639670
>>11639686
Just go on Twitter and follow these accounts you fools:

https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin

https://twitter.com/AJ_FI

https://twitter.com/NamusLake

>> No.11639725

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdpYpulGCKc

what the fuck man

>> No.11639763

>>11639725
hahaha, i love pop culture it catches up so quick, when is it out?

>> No.11639772
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11639772

>>11639414
Like this?
https://youtu.be/-Vu5-NNLaXU

>> No.11639787

What went wrong with space flight to allow so many people believe that space is faked?

>> No.11639790

>>11639509
Including the landing burn, less than 600 m/s.

>> No.11639792

>>11639787
Throughput. We need space to be well traveled enough to be accessible by regular citizenry

>> No.11639800

>>11639666
>starship will have to constantly reorient itself for radiation protection
Simple solution; do not give a shit about radiation. Problem solved.

>> No.11639819

>>11639800
Not that guy, but three months in microgravity has no permanent downsides with modern preventative measures. Why you would take the known downsides of increased rad dose over that is beyond me, but no space agency would take that tradeoff anyway so it doesn't matter.

Out of curiosity, you obviously aren't doing your burn in meatspin configuration, so you have to somehow rendezvous while on your Mars insertion trajectory. Is that even feasible?

>> No.11639823

>>11639787
spaceflight istn the problem
the problem is american education

>> No.11639835
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11639835

>>11639772
more like this

>> No.11639836

>>11639787
these people already existed, they just used to get browbeaten by their community into silence. Now with the internet they can encourage one another to get deeper into conspiracies.

>> No.11639849

>>11639819
>so you have to somehow rendezvous while on your Mars insertion trajectory. Is that even feasible?
Yeah, it's actually pretty easy in principal. You'd depart at the same time, at a standoff distance of ten kilometers for example, then after a few minutes of coasting to get your trajectory data you'd make some fine adjustments to set up a rendezvous for a few hours from then. Once you have approached you just go ahead and set everything up.

SpaceX already wants to do highly elliptical Earth-orbit rendezvous and docking, and fundamentally it's the same problem as rendezvous and docking on a hyperbolic trajectory.

>> No.11639856

>>11639447
not necessarily. if venus hadn't been fucked up in the past, most of the Co2 would have been sequested into the ground like here on earth. the atmosphare would not be even close to as thick as it is today

>> No.11639882

>>11639835
>someone else played spore
BASED

>> No.11639910

>>11639835
>>11639882
I'm still pissed the crop circles didn't do anything

>> No.11639917

>>11639084
Imagine being some alien rocket engineer on a planet with g=10/m/s/s and no other rocky bodies within 5 AU in either direction. You'd probably drink a lot, or your species' equivalent.

>> No.11639926

>>11639787
It's 90% salty foreigners who refuse to believe America can put men on the moon and their shitty country can't, 9% actual flat-earth retards (who are themselves 90% feds using flat-earth to discredit other "conspiracy theories" that are true), and 1% Buzz Aldrin baiting the retards into blowing themselves up trying to reach the firmament.

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11639946

/sci/s dreams of a whites-only Mars is not looking good

>> No.11639971

>>11639946
galaxy brain Musk trying to abuse government databases so his child never has to pay taxes

>> No.11639979

>>11639946
white trannies are still white

>> No.11639982
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11639982

>>11639946
>A-12
B A S E D

>> No.11639986

>>11639982
i see no cocks in that pit, i've been deceived

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11639999

>>11639946
Mars being pale skins only is just a matter of solar radiation - Martian sunlight isn't enough for darker skins to synthesize Vitamin D even at midsummer.

>>11639986
look closer

>> No.11640001

>>11639999
thank you for your service

>> No.11640002

>>11639999
I take vitamin D pills. Checkmate, white man.

>> No.11640004

>>11639999
>Martian sunlight isn't enough for darker skins to synthesize Vitamin D even at midsummer.
So are you saying that Mars is racist against blacks?

>> No.11640010

>>11640002
>I take vitamin D pills.
Cool, how much does three years' supply cost, weigh, and how much volume does it take up? Does it go bad exposed to radiation for three months in transit? Is it stable enough to survive launch and reentry? Now run those calculations for every single darkie that wants to live on Mars. If you're taking up that much extra payload expense, you're paying for it.

>>11640004
So is everything further out, yes. The gas giants get less than 2% of Earth's sunlight.

>> No.11640016

>>11639725
I hope this is like mash where it starts out with wacky hijinks but then turns on you with shocking serious shit like a woman smothering her baby

>> No.11640022
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11640022

RARE UNRELEASED FOOTAGE OF UNDISCLOSED NAZI SPACE PROGRAM (colorized, 1943)

>> No.11640026

>>11640022
>1448
Oh you were so close.

>> No.11640034

>>11639999
>>11640002
>>11640010
>implying Vitamin D deficiency even becomes an issue if you don't have everybody on medieval European peasant level starvation diets

retard alert

>> No.11640033

>>11640010
When SpaceX puts the first black man on Mars I will remember this post

>> No.11640039

>>11640022
ksp 2 when?

>> No.11640040

>>11639725
If this causes people to dislike space travel, then I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

>> No.11640053

>>11640040
What is it about?

>> No.11640066

>>11640053
From the looks of the trailer, it's like Delta Farce but with the Space Force. The trailer has a scene where a Falcon 9 looking "prototype" explodes and it's price was quoted to be "four new middle schools". There's also seems to be a theme of "space should be for exploration not military".

>> No.11640078

NEW THREAD
>>11640073
>>11640073
>>11640073
>>11640073

>> No.11640082

>>11640078
link the previous thread next time moran

>> No.11640083

>>11640078
Why the fuck did those homo mods delete the thread?

>> No.11640086

>>11640039
Release date is just "2020" so just sometime within the next 7 months.

>> No.11640087

>>11640083
>page 5
die

>> No.11640089

>>11640010
>So is everything further out, yes
Should we send them all to Venus or, better yet, Mercury instead? Those should be much less racist than even Earth

>> No.11640090

>>11639121
>gas generator
Why so old fashioned?

>> No.11640092

>>11640083
Slay thyself, knave.

>> No.11640097

>>11640090
Because that cycle is easy to design, build, and operate.

>> No.11640101

>>11640089
Skip a step and fire them directly into the sun.

>> No.11640103

>>11640090
eat beans and you too can be a gas generator

>> No.11640106

>>11640087
>over bump limit
>almost at prune limit
I thought /sci/ was supposed to be the smart board.

>> No.11640107

>>11640083
>page 5
mods are gods.

>> No.11640112

>>11640106
/sci/ is slow. You don't need to make a new thread until page 9

>> No.11640115

>>11640106
This isn't /vg/. /sfg/ isn't fighting gatcha generals for thread-space and can afford to linger around past the bump limit for a little while.

>> No.11640120

>>11640090
They literally copied the F-1

>> No.11640127

>>11640120
And that's a bad thing? The F-1 was great in the Saturn V. If you're building old fashioned disposable rocket engines you might as well use ones that work without SRBs.

>>11640106
/sfg/ routinely rides all the way to page 10.

>> No.11640129

>>11640090
CCGG rockets are simpler to design and manufacture compared to SCC rockets and as a result they have less complex plumbing while tending to be lighter with better TWRs. The J2-X also still produced an excellent vacuum ISP of 448s in spite of the gas-generator cycle generally being less efficient than the staged-combustion cycle.

>> No.11640137

>>11640129
Also if you want a staged combustion engine just buy Raptors at this point. They're cheap.

>> No.11640143

>>11640127
I never said it was, I am explaining why it is a gas generator. SLS uses SRBs to keep the SRB manufacturers in business.
>>11640101
We should fire racists into the sun.

>> No.11640209

space force tv show trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io6Mqho-asM&feature=emb_title
highlights some cheap shots at the idea of a space force, but 2bh it looks awfully close to how NASA is run

>> No.11640257

>>11640137
There's no such thing as "just buying engines" when it comes to NASA though. On top of that Raptors are LOX/Methane eaters, so you'd have to completely redesign whatever stage you attach them to to accept that propellant. J2-X eats LOX/LH2, so it's tankage is designed to store that. I do definitely think building better designed cheap and reusable engines is a better strategy than building hyper-autistically complicated "formula one" LOX/LH2 barely refurbishable engines to absolutely maximize ISP at the cost of everything else, but I don't buy that it will boil down to "just give SpaceX a monopoly on rocket engines by using Raptor for everything"

>> No.11640279

>>11640257
>but I don't buy that it will boil down to "just give SpaceX a monopoly on rocket engines by using Raptor for everything"
Until anyone else makes a comparable rocket engine for less than ten million dollars they already have that monopoly for anyone but government buyers.

>> No.11640286

>>11640209
kino

>> No.11640288

>>11640010
Whitie who sucks at processing various nutrients here - I could easily pack enough vit D for a two and a half year Mars and back voyage in the form of a few bottles, I've had one bottle for months now and I'm not halfway through it. Also, you would be using artificial or concentrated light on Mars anyway, being in direct Martian sunlight would be baking yourself in UV (pretty much the opposite of what you're suggesting), so this whole idea is broken.

>> No.11640291

>>11640288
You already need them ON EARTH. Mars gets LESS sunlight. The doses will not be equivalent.

>> No.11640296

>>11640291
Mars has a way thinner atmosphere though. Blocks less UV light.

>> No.11640300

>>11640291
That's without factoring in sunlight at all. It's available in such doses these days that you'd get too much easier than getting not enough.

>> No.11640306

>>11639510
Who the fuck is that in the left window?

>> No.11640307

Also yeah, this >>11640296
On Mars you will be filtering UV out as your main priority. Satisfying minimum exposure will be trivial

>> No.11640311

>>11639630
>Launch stream on bilibili was nuked for no apparent reason
It blew up on the pad and they switched to the CGI versions for post.

>> No.11640312

>>11640209
I hope its not ORANGE MAN SPACE BAD. What a waste of show it would be if it were.

>> No.11640316

>>11640312
I get the feeling that they're trying to capture that audience with the trailer, but the show itself didn't look all that critical of the military

>> No.11640317

>>11640209
Cringe. Go to /tv/ for discussions about media.
>>>/tv/
>>11640312
Oh you sweet summer child.

>> No.11640333

>>11640317
portrayal of American spaceflight efforts in the media is relevant to the future of spaceflight in general. American sentiment on spaceflight needs to be boosted otherwise we'll never accomplish anything.

>> No.11640351

>>11640333
I don't think it would harm the public view of space flight overall, just the Space Force and key elements of the Space Force already existed before Trump entered office.

>> No.11640356

>>11640333
It's a cringy comedy about bureaucracy and it's only tangentially related to spaceflight but that's enough to still spur negative sentiment. Discussing it here serves no purpose, all you're doing is helping it by giving it views and spreading it around.

>> No.11640392

>>11640356
I wonder if it will go the same route as Pentagon Wars.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXQ2lO3ieBA

>> No.11640405

>>11640356
>comedy
Am I'm the only one who never saw anything funny about it? It looks like a boring scifi drama with quirky characters.

>> No.11640422

>early May
>only 5 Starlink launches
We should be between 10 and 12 by now...

>> No.11640424

>>11640422
yeah, they're falling behind

>> No.11640439

>>11640422
Well, you know, there's this whole global hysteria thing going on

>> No.11640446

>>11640439
No wonder Elon is so pissed about it.

>> No.11640454

>>11640446
Seriously. 2-3% of the population kicking the bucket isn't that bad.

>> No.11640459

>>11640454
(assuming inflated death rates)

>> No.11640460

>>11640454
what we really need to do is initiate a national lottery where we reduce the population by 10% so the virus won't look as bad in comparison and we can open up the country again

>> No.11640464

>>11638490
I fucking hate this guy with all my guts, he's the epitome of a basedboy, and an insufferable stuck up one full of himself

>> No.11640509

>>11639971
If he sexually identifies as a legacy shuttle component, he‘ll get billions actually.

>> No.11640546

>>11638633
vaporwave

>> No.11640570

>>11640209
If hillary had won the president seat and had created starforce the same people who freaked out over trump's star force would probably be praising her as much as possible.
These movies always have some kind of final message too at the end, probably something along the line of "orange man bad"

These are the same people who would complain about NTR rockets.

>> No.11640584

>>11640570
>NTR rockets
you can't power a rocket off of cuckoldry, anon
you're thinking of either "NTR" or "NTP rockets"

>> No.11640590

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/05/nasa-is-working-with-tom-cruise-to-film-a-movie-in-space.html

He's actually doing it, the absolute madman.

>> No.11640595

>NASA is excited to work with @TomCruise on a film aboard the @Space_Station! We need popular media to inspire a new generation of engineers and scientists to make @NASA’s ambitious plans a reality.
https://twitter.com/JimBridenstine/status/1257752395750289409

He'll probably take a Dragon 2 to the ISS.

>> No.11640600

>>11640595
imagine trying to do science on the ISS while Tom Cruise bounces vibrating everything while trying to do action sequences. Also his nose is going to be stuffed the entire time... not that I don't think it's cool to see more civilian space travel, but this seems like a poorly formed idea

>> No.11640616

>>11640600
I read that Cruise goes to the extreme to do his movies, including HALO jumping and climbing the Burj Khalifa. I guess with the right movie he's willing to actually go to space to do it. And why not? Private/commercial spaceflight is opening up and he's getting too old to make use of his fortune, might as well as spend it on crazy shit.

>> No.11640622

>>11640600
>imagine trying to do science on the ISS while Tom Cruise bounces vibrating everything while trying to do action sequences.
Oh no! Not the rose smelling and green bean trimming experiments! Those cost millions of dollars!

>> No.11640623

>>11640616
>>11640600
I just wonder what the hell he's gonna actually do? Not much space in space. Is it gonna be a life of pi type shoot?

>> No.11640627

>>11640623
The ISS is taken over by Chinese robots during WW3, Cruise is a Space Force operative sent to retake it.

>> No.11640633

>>11640623
Also it's probably going to look worse than a set would look

>> No.11640642
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>>11640623
sick flips and EVA 'abseiling'

>> No.11640646

>>11640642
I think there's a 0% chance they'll let Cruise EVA

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>>11640627

>> No.11640673
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11640673

Why are electrically operated valves so expensive? Why is anything in amateur rocketry so expensive?

>> No.11640687

>>11640673
Gotta go vertical mass production like SpaceX if you want to do it cheaper per unit.

>> No.11640694

>>11640646
He'd need to have access to the earth based training facilities with suits, pools, replicas of the structure he would interact with and all this shit for months and months of repetitions for whatever could go wrong. Yeah I'm not sure NASA would squander a real astronaut place for an actor even if I have no doubts he would do it. It could be a possibility if the US government had plans to really expand the space program and use this movie as a PR stunt and recruitment tool, not unlike what they are doing with movies like Top Gun or shows like Stargate.

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>>11640595
>tfw you scroll down too far

>> No.11640761

once that series about space airs could we host some sort of online sfg watching event so we can have a laugh in real time as inconsistencies appear and add a couple of jeffs who and elon faggots on suicide watch and shit like that?

>> No.11640768

>>11640657
007 movie?

>> No.11640782

>>11640761
>once that series about space
what series?

>> No.11640791

>>11640768
yeah, moonraker

>> No.11640809

>>11640782
space force

>> No.11640816

>>11640809
Isn't it a movie?

>> No.11640823

>>11640816
it's a show:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Force_(TV_series)

>> No.11640830

>>11640633
they will realize this too late and put so many cgi on top of it that it might as well be filmed on a green screen

>> No.11640843

>>11640830
I read that they did an actual HALO jump but still added a ton of CGI to it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci1u68ZVcag

>> No.11640846

>>11640646
They'll just do it like in the current Top Gun Movie. Have Cruise suit up, enter airlock, then replace with an actual astronaut then CGI his face in. Some poor astronaut is gonna get Tom Cruise stunt double in his resume.

>> No.11640858

>>11640823
>Space Force is a workplace comedy series that centers on a group of people tasked with establishing the sixth branch of the United States Armed Forces, the United States Space Force.

Sounds like it's just going to be a reboot of The Office.

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>>11640127
I have started /sfg/ threads where Just after I put the forward link in the old thread, it dies.

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>>11640600
I'm waiting for the exciting space toilet scene.

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>>11640846
>Tfw you train years and years just to put your life in danger so a famous actor can make some quick bucks for the church of scientology

>> No.11640898
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11640898

First condom in space
thanks china

>> No.11640952

>>11640454
Yeah, and that's assuming that you accept the retards in New York's inflated numbers, while the more realistic estimate is something like .03% mortality. And THAT's assuming you ignore the fact that all of the "experts" have magically recorded nearly zero flu deaths in spite of this year's flu season being quite severe, which means that on average at least a third of those deaths ought to be from the flu.

>> No.11640969

>>11640083
Etiquette for new general threads is bump limit and page 9 or 10

>> No.11641003

>>11640866
one time I made an /sfg/ thread and when I made the new thread it bumped the old one off the board

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>>11640898
there were Lavochkin's NTU and Langley's HIAD before that
what's interesting about this flying condom is that it doesn't seem to have an ablative nosecone, at least if the rendering looks close to the real thing. they probably aim very high for this to work, making the entry very shallow

>> No.11641056

>>11640952
>inflated numbers
numbers are at least 100 times lower than they are, and dont forget that because of hospital collapse deaths unrelated to corona are also increasing, between 10 and 100 times also, why do you think medical workers are kililng themselves. with no vaccines this is a civilization collapse scenario, the quarantine is to give them time to think

>> No.11641064

>>11641056
chemistry isn't about thinking, it's about optimizing your shit throwing machine so you can see what stuck in the least amount of time possible

>> No.11641097

new
>>11641094
>>11641094
>>11641094

>> No.11641184

>>11638798
Tacos and mariachi band in the background