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I've been spending some time in the realms of pseudoscience looking for some inspiriation and change of perspective when i came across this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n38aP2tROBo

It got me thinking... What if the earth was actually flat? but the curvature of spacetime is distorted by earths gravity/ electromagnetism so that this plane becomes formed into a sphere once you get far enough away to look at it from a different gravity well.

>> No.11466973

No

>> No.11466981

>>11466959
We have pictures

>> No.11467001
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>>11466959
>what if the Earth acted like a sphere and looked like a sphere and had all the gravitational forces of a sphere as predicted by our most fitting equations that have for centuries predicted that the Earth was in fact a sphere
>...but it WASN'T a sphere. I don't have evidence for this, but it gets the brain going, don't you think?
fuck off

>> No.11467009

>>11466959
>>11466973
>>11466981
>>11467001
The Earth is both flat and spherical

>> No.11467013

>>11467009
yes under this hypothesis, if you are in the same gravity well as earth, it appears planar, but as one ventures beyond earths gravity well, we start to see the same effect that black holes have on light, we see earth warped into a sphere

>> No.11467019

>>11466959
>but the curvature of spacetime is distorted by earths gravity/ electromagnetism so that this plane becomes formed into a sphere once you get far enough away to look at it from a different gravity well.
You can’t just take concepts and misapply them blindly like this. God you’re so stupid. Don’t post here anymore.

>> No.11467042

>>11467019
The point of science is too ask stupid questions, and test them. you must be one of those university types that think science is a knowledge game. Have you explored the physics of warp drives?

>> No.11467048

>>11467042
I hope your hands fall off child

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>>11467048
What triggers you so about going about the formation of a scientific hypothesis? I have not claimed this to be fact

>> No.11467176

The Earth is flat and the ground is accelerating upwards... Do you even GR bro?

>> No.11467256

>>11467042
Good point, but you'd see how wacky of an idea it really is if you got how general relativity works. It's good to ask weird questions but OP's question borders on dumb.

>> No.11467342

>>11466959
What you are observing is an optical illusion, if true.
It's not that both parties are correct about the shape of the Earth.
That's like saying that when you stand in front of a circus mirror you become all bendy and short just because that's what you observe.

>> No.11467411

Please leave this board and never come back

>> No.11467415

>>11466959
>but the curvature of spacetime is distorted by earths gravity/ electromagnetism so that this plane becomes formed into a sphere once you get far enough away to look at it from a different gravity well.

what if the earth is a fucking turtle??

>> No.11467449
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>>11467256
isn't general relativity naive to the electric universe perspective? this type of logic is rooted from the nazi space program through operation paperclip and what happened after that

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>>11467342
precisely! :)

>> No.11467471

>>11467411
What if i shifted my relativistic frame by a plank second?

>> No.11467777

>>11467471
You'd still be a faggot.

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>>11466959
The problem with your hypothesis is that gravity acts over an infinite range; it becomes exponentially less influential over distance but its still there. Secondly the only humans to ever leave Earths sphere of gravitational influence (the Earths "gravity well" are the apollo astronauts, and the Earth looks just as round to someone on the ISS as to someone orbiting the Moon.

Why is it so hard for people to accept that globular hydrostatic equilibrium is the easiest shape for matter to assume in a space? It's something we can simulate fairly accurately on Earth.

>> No.11468371

>>11466959
Do you have any math to back that up?

>> No.11468377
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11468377

It's flat.

>> No.11468396

>>11467089
>republican elephant symbol
>held by its belief system
fuck off democRAT

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11468497

>>11468377
Yeah bro it turns out basketballs are actually flat too.

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>>11468497
Take a panoramic shot of the basketball like my photo is.

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>>11467944
>The problem with your hypothesis is that gravity acts over an infinite range; it becomes exponentially less influential over distance but its still there.

Based, Like trying to plot a circle on a graph, what happens when x approaches 0. (where the shadow changes on the earth)

This line of thought has got me questioning in another way though, like how a straw's image diffracts in water, how would an observer in a large gravity field, observe an image, and vice versa. Perhaps a more reasonable topic for this board as well

>> No.11469156

>>11468371
Not yet, just hoping for a visualization of the affect, i think with that and the aid of some of the papers sourced in that youtube channel, i could get closer to a model. For now, the realm of imagination and hypothesis :)

My current intuition is that, like a pizza dough falling and sticking around a sphere, there is a warp field field with a certain energy and geometry that can make the flat earther model earth disk spherical

>> No.11469181

>>11467001
This made me laugh. I hope I can be more like this.

>> No.11469188

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/do-electric-charges-and-m/

Looks like the guy i need to start reading is this fellow Charles Torre>>11468371 as well

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>> No.11470124

>>11469131
Gravitational lensing is a real thing in astrophysics. When we observe light that has passed through another large body of mass like a far away galaxy, its light is actually distorted like a giant cosmic lens. Same thing happens with CMB.

>> No.11470147

>>11467449
The problem is that general relativity has survived significant attempt to disprove it and, instead, been vindicated multiple times over. The alternative theories are not alternative because of suppression, but because they do not correctly model what we can correctly measure.

The electric universe theory was actually started by someone in my hometown. People listen because pseuds like to pretend they understand things better than professionals without having bothered to gather enough information to form a reasonable stance in the first place.