[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/sci/ - Science & Math


View post   

File: 47 KB, 479x359, avgn.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
11395637 No.11395637 [Reply] [Original]

>Western children first show signs of mirror self-recognition (MSR) from 18 to 24 months of age, the benchmark index of emerging self-concept. Such signs include self-oriented behaviors while looking at the mirror to touch or remove a mark surreptitiously placed on the child’s face. The authors attempted to replicate this finding across cultures using a simplified version of the classic “mark test.” In Experiment 1, Kenyan children (N= 82, 18 to 72 months old) display a pronounced absence of spontaneous self-oriented behaviors toward the mark. In Experiment 2, the authors tested children in Fiji, Saint Lucia, Grenada, and Peru (N= 133, 36 to 55 months old), as well as children from urban United States and rural Canada. As expected from existing reports, a majority of the Canadian and American children demonstrate spontaneous self-oriented behaviors toward the mark. However, markedly fewer children from the non-Western rural sites demonstrate such behaviors.
From: https://www2.psych.ubc.ca/~henrich/pdfs/Journal%20of%20Cross-Cultural%20Psychology-2010-Broesch-%20Cultural%20Variations%20in%20Children%27s%20Mirror%20Self-Recognition.pdf

why can't kenyan children recognize themselves at such a young age when western children can?

>> No.11395640

what about asian?

>> No.11395644
File: 170 KB, 750x738, 18C4EAB6-0259-4414-93F1-8E255C038A96.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
11395644

>>11395637
Purely environmental factors, now go back to sleep.
Fun fact: epigentics now suggests your iq could be effected not just by your moms diet but by your great grandmothers diet. So if you were poor/repressed even several generations ago you might be lagging from a full potential
Also, please don’t post faggots in op pics

>> No.11395645

18 fucking moths? My kid figured out it was her reflection by 8 months and was using it to watch herself take off her hat, etc. Shes 18 months now and I can't imagine her just figuring that out now. I know Kenyans are fucking gay but what's wrong with our kids?

>> No.11395652

>>11395645
heh, 8 months? my child noticed herself the first day. after a month she was already correcting my chinese grammar.

>> No.11395684

>>11395645
>sci posters have kids
I am going to die alone

>> No.11395716

>>11395637
Children are tampered with in so many ways it's hard to really care what attributes were found under some largely unknown context. Clamping, prenatal vaccination, vaccines, all of these things cause developmental stunting and brain damage. Would I enthusiastically study the essential, basic nature of something that was hit in the head with a hammer? No. Brain damage is for studying the function of certain subsystems of the brain, and in this case you need a specific lesion in a known location. Not a vague hypoxic thinning of the neonate's brain, nor heavy metals and immunogenic/inflammatory brain damage.

It's just not interesting? Do you fucking people get it? It's not interesting. It's NOT INTERESTING.

>> No.11395789

>>11395640
Asians are too smart for identity politics so they have to eat shit basically

>> No.11395880

>>11395637
Being from an all white country until recently my lasting impression of black is still how they let flies crawl over their unblinkinh eyeballs in begging ads.

>> No.11395887
File: 72 KB, 591x506, 1508892407593.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
11395887

>>11395652
omg i wanna make anime baby

>> No.11395894

>>11395637
>mirror self-recognition
Not science

>> No.11395906

>>11395637
Rural non-western don't have big mirrors, so their children are not exposed to mirrors.

>> No.11395926

>>11395645
>>11395652
>t. idiot parents that want ever so desperately to believe their child is somehow special

>> No.11395927

>>11395644
>please don’t post faggots in op pics
>James a faggott
You couldn't be more wrong, retard.

>> No.11395936

I hate recognizing myself in the mirror.
Takes all the fun out of mirrors. I prefer seeing another world inside it.

>> No.11395964

>>11395926
Spotted the Kenyan. How are you even posting here? Are you generating power with a giant hamster wheel?

>> No.11395967

>>11395894
>Empirical and experimental data
>Not science
???

>> No.11395968

>>11395964
Yes
Smoke and mirrors

>> No.11395971

>>11395967
Psychology was never science. Maybe it will be in the future but your race won't live to see it.

>> No.11395975

>>11395637
These results suggest that there are
profound cross-cultural differences in the meaning of the MSR test, questioning the validity of
the mark test as a universal index of self-concept in children’s development

Right there in the fucking abstract. Why didn't OP include this i wonder why I really do

>> No.11396258

>>11395975
>Africans do poorly on a test
>This means the test must be wrong

>> No.11396264

>>11395894
based

psychology is not science retards.

>> No.11396266

>>11395968
russians flipping shit

>> No.11396294

>>11396258
They go into detail how they came to that conclusion. There are specifics to how they react and why. Read everything.

>> No.11396695

>>11396294
I read enough to source a quote that supports my view. I didn't get two undergrad science degrees to do any more than that.

>> No.11397265

>>11395644
At this point I'm forced to conclude that these common bait like replies in these types of thread are from trolls hoping to provoke outrage because they seem to ignore the very obvious reality.

>> No.11397271

>>11395880
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNqfFafXGLA

>> No.11397317

>>11396258
>Africans do poorly on a test
It's not Africans only.

>"However, markedly fewer children from the non-Western rural sites demonstrate such behaviors. "
Read.