Psychopaths are OP

[Anonymous No.11361272]

Is psychopathy a superpower?

Everywhere i read where a psychopath describes their life they always talk about how their manipulative, can easily influence people, don't feel negative emotions and are very determined and driven people. They talk about a 'mask' they wear to pretend to be normal so they don't risk social exclusion and it obviously works well for them.

What could possibly be the downsides to being so ruthless and feeling no remorse?

[Anonymous No.11361278]

>>11361272
*they're manipulative

[Anonymous No.11361279]

>>11361272
The only downside is that they can cause the society to collapse by reducing trust because everyone is corrupt and backstabbing everyone else.
This is why third world countries are corrupt.
Psychopaths are probably criminally asymptomatic because they feel no guilt.
Someone who cannot feel guilt cannot be a benefit to society and is a danger to everyone else. We should identify them and quarantine them and abort them.

Obviously this would result in the death of everyone on /pol/

[Anonymous No.11361282]

>>11361272
Everyone in Goldman sachs is a psychopath. And they've said quite a few times on camera that they feel no guilt or remorse and never have.

[Anonymous No.11361283]

>>11361272
Psychopathy is slightly associated with lower Intelligence
Your average psychopath is not ted bundy

[Anonymous No.11361285]

>>11361279
Yeah but psychopaths don't just do bad things because they will inevitably have negative consequences for themselves.
They might do bad shit for the greater good though which most people are unwilling to do

[Anonymous No.11361288]

>>11361282
So psychopaths are rich and successful?
>>11361283
You get low and high functioning psychopaths though

[Anonymous No.11361295]

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[Anonymous No.11361296]

>>11361272
i wish i was a psychopath :/

[Anonymous No.11361301]

>>11361296
Same, imagine being so calm, cold and manipulative while not feeling bad in anyway

[Anonymous No.11361322]

>>11361283
Ted Bundy was framed.

[Anonymous No.11361328]

>>11361272
The downsides are being kicked out of countries 109 times and counting.

[Anonymous No.11361336]

>>11361282
The article is far less bad than the title makes it sound you clickbaited useful idiot.

[Anonymous No.11361338]

>>11361328
Wow so funny and edgy xdd
But psychopaths are charismatic and so are unlikely to be hated

[Anonymous No.11361341]

>>11361328
If anything in the history of Jewish expulsions, the expellers were the ones demonstrating psychopathic traits, if anything. And Christians have been persecuted in more countries than Jews have which, even ignoring every other reason why you’re stupid, shatters your point.
/pol/ dumpster babies really are the dumbest creatures.

[Anonymous No.11361367]

>>11361336
It's exactly as bad if not worse, it even gives examples of companies ruining themselves by inventing cures.

[Anonymous No.11361390]

>>11361367
>the article says it was one person from Goldman Sachs who raised point not the bank
>the article implies it was framed as a uncomfortable reality that has to be addressed, not a malicious goal to pursue
>the fact that it was said in the open implies they don’t agree with it

You are really really bad at interpreting shit

[Anonymous No.11361446]

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[Anonymous No.11361538]

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[Anonymous No.11361547]

>>11361272
>how their manipulative
>their
What country are you from?

[Anonymous No.11361553]

>>11361547
I did correct it with the next comment (i don't usually make that mistake)

Here's another question:
Would the world be a better place if everyone was a psychopath?

[Anonymous No.11361554]

>>11361553
I just realised after writing this that the world would end in a generation as there'd be no reason to raise and care for kids

[Anonymous No.11361560]

>>11361285
>Yeah but psychopaths don't just do bad things because they will inevitably have negative consequences for themselves.
As most people, they want positive consequences for themselves, but tends to be less inihibited from doing bad things to achieve this if it is a viable option. The literature paints psychpaths as impulsive, so I guess they might often choose short-term gain even if it leads to long-term detriment.

[Anonymous No.11361608]

>>11361553
Why do I feel like everyone is psychopath?
Hermit here.

[Anonymous No.11361613]

I was reading Snakes in Suits. Should continue.
Psychopath is developed by alerted defense mechanism where individual become super selfish and trust no one. This enforces intelligent decisions and thus increasing his IQ.

[Anonymous No.11361635]

>>11361279
>Obviously this would result in the death of everyone on /pol/
Jesus, the trannies on this board are absolutely assblasted by /pol/ this thread isnt even political and the posters just cant help themselves. Have you thought of drinking bleach?
>or returning to re/ddit

[Anonymous No.11361648]

>>11361341
>kick out small tribe practicing usury (forbidden by your religion but not theirs) and preying on the host nation’s vices
>you're the psycho for not wanting to be parasitized
/sci/ is truly fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.11361659]

>>11361272
Stop reading pop-sci magazines. Its not a superpower. Achieving things through manipulation and lies is wothless and only possible then those thigs are material like a better position at work. Real work and real achievements like a science changing paper or some new invention will not come with manipulation and lying, but only through honest hard work and creativity.

[Anonymous No.11361670]

>>11361272

Psychopaths are not invulnerable, if anything they are actually genuinely afraid of anyone who can see through them and make them feel like they are ''losing control''
I suspect I might be one myself, since I find it easy to recognize them and I enjoy poking at them.


You want to make a psychopath feel like a bitch? Eye-fuck them back.

[Anonymous No.11361688]

>>11361613
This is true, I have experienced something similar. The company I work at used to be a nice place, then it got acquired, management changed and still looks nice on the outside but its a cut throat environment, I learned that the hard way, after the incident that nearly cost me my job, I trust no one anymore, the result of that is I actively question (not neccessarily out loud) every word and every action from coworkers and management and my resulting actions and decisions even earned me a promotion, I still trust no one and never will, in a way I am thankful I learned this lesson in relatively gentle and least damaging way

[Anonymous No.11361746]

>>11361554
Enough would have kids through hedonistic unprotected sex. Not every female would be able to get an abortion, lots of abandoned babies, lots of child labor.

[Anonymous No.11361766]

>>11361688
>Company
I started with childhood bully. The girl I liked and the boys she played games with bullied me to death because I said I love you to her. This was at age 12.

[Anonymous No.11361776]

Here are two of the most powerful psychopathic characters I know of in fictional realm.
>Ozymandias from Watchmen(No I am not comicfag, I just know the movie and theme)
>Grifitth from Berkserk(No I am also not anime fag I know this because I played Dark Souls and it's story led me to this series)

[Anonymous No.11361876]

>>11361659
Why can a psychopath not write a paper? They just have fewer inhibitions

[Anonymous No.11361892]

>>11361272
I think you need to differentiate between the three types of psychopaths.
-Primary psychopaths, they are the way you're described
-Secondary psychopaths. Due to proximity or submersion in a psychopathic system, they take on the traits to survive. This is conditioned rather than have a deep or biological basis.
-Dissociative psychopaths. This is essentially where repeated trauma trains a person to separate from their body and heavily filter and "translate" all inputs into the conscious mind, as it suits their functioning and goals. This leads to an inability to connect with others, a lack of self reflection (like the vampire with no reflection in the mirror, the world is your mirror, and you see no reflection of yourself). This opens the option of, using your ability to rapidly model social environments and think in a long range, big picture way, to be a chameleon and gain power.

I would argue the third is the most effective and dangerous. Too much of the first type is apt to be detected in short order, and is probably sadistic and stupid as well. You need a mix of first and third. I'm pretty much the third type, but (unfortunately?) not a psychopath. I have wondered what it would be like to just let go.

[Anonymous No.11361898]

>>11361659
Youll die an old poor miserable fuck

[Anonymous No.11361908]

ITT: Everyone in denial about having aspergers

[Anonymous No.11361924]

>>11361635
/sci/ has been infested by /pol/ shitters for years. They will never leave.

[Anonymous No.11361940]

>>11361898
bait

[Anonymous No.11362027]

>>11361272
I'm going to project a lot here and say that most of the things psychopaths are associated with (manipulation) are developed to cope with their ability to form proper human relationships. Unless you're very smart, this kind of maneuvering typically starts to backfire on you a lot; and you constantly find yourself lacking a social support network, unlike the normalcaattle who have friends and family who can help them out, so any pot holes on your road are a lot more troublesome than they are for everyone else. Because of this, psychopathy is going to be a net-loss for the vast majority of psychopaths.

We think of psychopaths as charming CEO's and politicians, but the reality is that these sorts are either incredible smart (CEO's) or incredibly lucky (politicians). If you were to survey the ruling class, I'm sure you would definitely find a higher propensity towards traits associated with ASPD; however, this does not necessary mean that these traits alone boost you upwards. The majority of psychopaths are those people who try to get their co-workers fired for no particular reason. They are not happy. They are not successful. They are not smart. They are not charming or likable.

I have no idea what has compelled people to idealize psychopathy. It's a very unhappy existence. Nothing you get is ever enough; and they find themselves wanting things like love and friends, while being hopelessly detached from that realm of human experience. I've noticed that people also idealize schizophrenia for whatever reason. Perhaps this is related. It's probably done either because people assume that people with these mental illnesses have some sort of special ability, or because it makes you very unique.

[Anonymous No.11362064]

>>11361670
It's impossible though, they don't feel negative emotions beyond physical suffering

[Anonymous No.11362067]

>>11361898
>Youll die an old poor miserable fuck
>>11362027
>unlike the normalcaattle who have friends and family who can help them out

these
I was recently in a hospital with "simple" poor old dude recovering from a stroke who was constantly visited by an old friend, a loving wife, a daughter and a grandson. And all the time i couldn't stop thinking "fuck i wish that would be me at that age".

[Anonymous No.11362069]

>>11362027
>concept of friends and psychopath family
>psychopath
pick one

[Anonymous No.11362073]

>>11362064
You need negative emotions to reinforce any sort of learning you retard

[Anonymous No.11362138]

>>11362067
Are you a psychopath/ASPD, or do you just have trouble forming relationships? There are many issues that can harm one's ability to form good bonds with others. I'd actually say that the majority of mental issues have troubled relations with others as a symptom.

>>11362069
The exact nature of psychopathy is going to vary from person to person, but it's not unfounded that psychopaths can still want/feel love, family, and the like.

https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/psychotic-affective-disorders/hidden-suffering-psychopath

Forgive me if you'd prefer links to a proper journal. I hope the citations in my link are adequate.

[Anonymous No.11362177]

What you people admire is how psychopaths are represented in fiction, not actual psychopaths.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4059069/
> The best current estimate is that just less than 1% of all noninstitutionalized males age 18 and over are psychopaths.1 This translates to approximately 1,150,000 adult males who would meet the criteria for psychopathy in the United States today.2 And of the approximately 6,720,000 adult males that are in prison, jail, parole, or probation,3 16%, or 1,075,000, are psychopaths.4 Thus, approximately 93% of adult male psychopaths in the United States are in prison, jail, parole, or probation.

Real life sociopaths are not Hannibal Lecter or James Moriarty, they're dumb bottom-feeders who can't control their criminal impulses and consequently spend most of their lives decorating the inside of jail cells.

[Anonymous No.11362188]

>>11361908
>ITT: Everyone in denial about having aspergers
Except me. I know I have autism and, although I am ashamed of it, I won't deny it when I'm online and relatively anonymous.

[Anonymous No.11362240]

>>11362064

Not true, psychopaths do feel. They just don't feel remorse, but go ahead and make a psychopath feel like they don't have control over a situation, then watch them lose it and reveal themselves for who they are. Its actually really easy to fuck with them and make them look like retards in social situations.

Done it plenty of times

[Anonymous No.11362244]

>>11362064
>>11362240

Not to mention, they are often so used to being able to see through people and play them like puppets that went you make them run in circles, you can see their frustration in their eyes and even a hint of fear.

[Anonymous No.11362264]

>>11361659
>Real work and real achievements like a science changing paper or some new invention will not come with manipulation and lying

Thomas Edison and Isaac Newton did this exact things to become richer and more important. And it worked. The list might be bigger even.
Granted, being an imoral/amoral person to the point of "asshole" will only get you so far.

[Anonymous No.11362266]

>>11362264
An "example of scientists that might've been psychos" would be a cool topic too.

[Anonymous No.11362275]

>>11361272
Other psychopaths. Imagine. The constant fear of living with the knowledge these super predators exist.

[Anonymous No.11362278]

>>11361272
i'd imagine feeling no guilt or remorse impairs your learning ability, because you're lacking a feedback loop

just look at women

[Anonymous No.11362281]

>>11361892
>not a psychopath
you are just a narcissist

[Anonymous No.11362302]

>>11362240
>Its actually really easy to fuck with them and make them look like retards in social situations.
>Done it plenty of times
Do you have any tips how to do that?

[Anonymous No.11362303]

>>11361328
kek, my thoughts exactly, lets make it 110

[Anonymous No.11362305]

>>11362275
This.
I'm not a psycho or sociopath. Hell, I've read many times that this labels don't even exist.

But I've had my bland emontionless phase filled with violent urges, 'desire to kill', "to feel" blablabla, I doubt that this isn't an common thing that many people have.

I obviously managed to keep these desires in check (bdsm and gorevids help a lot) because I'm not a retard nor rich enough to get away with it. But fuck, I'm constantly paranoid that anyone could have these exact same thoughts but might be too stupid to care and kill me anyway.

[Anonymous No.11362310]

>>11361272
>their manipulative
yes, they have no problem lying all the time
>can easily influence people
in short term - yes, by lying
>don't feel negative emotions
they feel rage and boredom all the time
>determined and driven people
most of them can't hold a career job or/and end up in jail

>What could possibly be the downsides to being so ruthless and feeling no remorse

you will fuck up sooner or later, odds are against you


the well spread myth about psychopaths ruling the world is silly.

[Anonymous No.11362320]

>>11362310
t. psychopath

[Anonymous No.11362327]

>>11361390
interpreting things? is that what we do? I thought we just swallowed manipulative headlines whole like everyone else.

[Anonymous No.11362389]

>>11362302
>Do you have any tips how to do that?

Yes, first and foremost I'd suggest you meditate on Death and become comfortable with the idea that everything will one day die and no empire rules forever. This will allow you to detach emotionally from everything, which is key on what comes next.
The number one 1 to remember, is to never react emotionally to anything they do. Then, focus on what matters to their ego. You'll find, a lot of the time with psychopaths it is all about taking the lead and being the alpha in a group of people. A common thing a psychopath will do is try to win over your friends, make the rules of the game and passively cast you out.
Best solution to this?
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Do not complain, do not react emotionally. Instead, go to his circle of friends and be more charismatic than he is, make the rules over there by appealing to what each and every individual likes the most, listen to them, ask questions, take the lead and play games.
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This will make any psychopath squirm like a bitch because.
1. You are not reacting to him, therefore he feels out of control
2. You are playing his game better

You do that, and it is only a matter of time before they lose it and have a meltdown in front of everyone. Which is exactly when you, with a charming and friendly smile listen to them, ask them questions then welcome them to join YOUR group. This kills them, while making you look great infront of everyone else.
------

The key is basically, out-charisma the fuck out of them.

[Anonymous No.11362391]

I think it's a superpower. My cousin was diagnosed with ASPD (don't talk to her anymore) and I literally couldn't tell growing up with her. Never worried or got anxiety about anything, never got 'depressed' like most teenagers were in their teen lives, was so sure about her future success that it was bizarre, all of her life was orderly despite her parents lives not, and was very good socially.

It's wierd because she was kind to me growing up. Made me sad that i know it was artificial though :(

It was nothing like i see in the movies, she hasn't even committed the petiest of crimes.

[Anonymous No.11362398]

>>11362391
They don't get caught so she probably has but got away with it because no guilt and no biting off more than she can chew

[Anonymous No.11362414]

High IQ psychopaths imo are rare, most of them are just dumb as a rock

[Anonymous No.11362530]

>>11362414
This though. Psychopathy is not correlated to IQ and only low amount of them are smart.

[Anonymous No.11362534]

>>11361272
>What could possibly be the downsides to being so ruthless and feeling no remorse?
They don't learn to not fuck up because they're so insensitive to the negative feedback of punishment. That's why most psychopaths are low IQ petty criminals who get easily caught doing stupid and illegal shit.

[Anonymous No.11362554]

>>11361279
>they can cause the society to collapse
The opposite, actually. Without them society would collapse. They build the core of control in every large society and act as the glue keeping the numerous institutions together.

>This is why third world countries are corrupt.
No, they are corrupt because their psychopaths have no sophisticated system of control and act more individualistic than collectivistic.

>Someone who cannot feel guilt cannot be a benefit to society
Wrong again. Some positions in society require people that can't feel guilt. Those positions can benefit society enormously.

>Obviously this would result in the death of everyone on /pol/
How unsurprising lol

[Anonymous No.11362567]

>>11361283
>r=.07
That's not much.

[Anonymous No.11362572]

>>11361341
Now this is a cope if I've ever seen one.

[Anonymous No.11362651]

>>11362320
I'm not, I'd feel bad for exploiting inoccent people

[Anonymous No.11362696]

>>11361272
Is psychopathy a superpower?
Found the med student

[Anonymous No.11362750]

>>11362651
why? that's what they're there for.

[Anonymous No.11362757]

>>11362554
>They build the core of control in every large society and act as the glue keeping the numerous institutions together.
what fucking horseshit is this? most psychopaths are worthless self-serving criminals

[Anonymous No.11362762]

>>11362750
>why?
mirror neurons and active prefrontal cortex

[Anonymous No.11362767]

>>11362762
fucking good answer hell ya
mirror neurons are still theoretical though

[Anonymous No.11362773]

>>11362767
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_neuron

[Anonymous No.11362786]

>>11362767
that's...
>>11362770

[Anonymous No.11362805]

>>11362786
wat

[Anonymous No.11362810]

>>11361272
I imagine the 'superpower's' weakness is that if there's a societal collapse, someone would probably lynch them.

[Anonymous No.11362824]

>>11361272
the downside is that they're often fairly stupid people
whether this is a consequence or cause of psychopathy is undetermined

[Anonymous No.11362919]

>>11362281
I'm a strange mix of a codependent and a vulnerable narcissist. I'm pretty mangled inside, but I don't hurt anyone other than by subtly refusing emotional intimacy.

[Anonymous No.11362959]

>>11362391
Even without emotions she might have actually loved you. You can "logically" love someone instead of emotionally. I'm not sure if I truely have emotions or if I've been faking having them for so long I've convinced myself I do but I've always been able to just not feel something if I didn't want to. I haven't cryed since I was 10 and I don't even remember crying from non-physical pain. I couldn't give a damn about most but there is a few people in my life I wouldn't mind dying for. I'm sure I have a few screws loose but I don't really know if it's psychopathy or autism or something else exactly (although I doubt autism since I don't have trouble with social cues and interactions), never seen a psychiatrist since my back up plan if my life goes to shit is joining the military.

[Anonymous No.11362987]

>>11361272
Of course they think that they can easily manipulate and influence people, narcissism is an extremely common trait amongst psychopaths. The vast majority of psychopaths are completely dog shit at actually manipulating other people, and they rarely empathize with others so they can’t understand that other people usually catch onto it. They’re equal parts selfish and narcissistic, so they tend to romanticize their skills of manipulation (which are usually on par with those of non-psychotic individuals) and try to make their lives sound more fulfilling and glamorous than they actually are.

[Anonymous No.11362998]

>>11362534
>They don't learn to not fuck up because they're so insensitive to the negative feedback of punishment. That's why most psychopaths are low IQ petty criminals who get easily caught doing stupid and illegal shit.
^This. Psychopathy is basically reverse-autism. Instead of being overly sensitive to stimuli they don't respond enough to it. This both causes risky behaviors since they need more stimulation to feel satisfied than a normal person would as well as causes poor decision making since when they mess up and lose lots of money or piss off friends and family or get arrested etc. it doesn't bother them as much as it would a normal person. And if you don't feel bad when bad things happen to you you aren't going to learn to avoid them.
Very smart, attractive, and/or charismatic psychopaths get around this problem to some extent by making enough positive things happen for them to offset the consequences of their risk taking and to get others to overlook when they're doing questionable shit.
But even then they usually end up getting screwed over in the end since that sort of behavior is self-serving in the short term and not very sustainable e.g. that Elizabeth Holmes girl who got by on pure bullshit and made billions of dollars despite not actually coming anywhere close to producing the revolutionary (and probably not even possible) single drop instant blood testing technology she pretended to pioneer. It was impressive how far she got just by being a shameless liar and exploiting the shit out of her employees, but even she couldn't keep the ruse up forever.

[Anonymous No.11363011]

Congrats because of this thread I have officially thrown sociopath and psychopath out of my vocabulary. I will now merely use; bossy, bully, asshole, manipulator, Jew, stoic, stern, indifferent, cold, Mary sue.
No such thing as a clinical socio and psycho. There's tons of insane bullies who want to kill and mess around with people for the sake of it. And there's tons of careless suave "prodigies" who excel at life by doing their homework and not taking bullshit from anyone.
Just like most introverts can be practical autists, but their brain is perfectly normal.

[Anonymous No.11363030]

>>11361338
I have a theory that jews have a genetic defect that makes them more predisposed to psychopathy.
Also circumcision makes men less empathetic and have a less wide range of emotions while being permently emotionally scarred by the event. its proven in brain scans.
I am uncircumcised have high intelligence and creativity as well as being extremely empathetic and caring for a male. I think circumcision along with all the propaganda and flueride and medications just does something to men that makes them into these weird robotic creatures who think masculinity is about being "hard as fuck" 24/7 and then you have the nu males who act like pseudo women and passive aggressive faggots.

[Anonymous No.11363042]

>>11362919
then well, you are not that dangerous, but insufferable

[Anonymous No.11363047]

>>11363030
the - "I don't like jews therefore they are psychopaths" - theory

>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.11363052]

>>11361776
Ozy isnt a psychopath because he did that not for the sake of his own power but because he felt like there was no other way. He then says he made himself feel every death.
Ozy is more like a solider who is hardened by war.
If Ozy was a psychopath he likely would have gone further in trying to break Dr Manhatten and likely would have had all the watchmen killed in unfortunate acidents. ie he probably knew Laurie or whatever the girls name was the only thing that could bring manhatten back but he didnt want to kill her because it was unlikely and maybe he liked or or would have felt guilt. The key thing is psychopaths are absolutely ruthless power hungry and feel no guilt. Ozymandias was not power hungry while he did rule and control things he felt it was his duty to do so to save the human race and use his intelligence for good. A psychopath would never have such a magnanimous vision.

[Anonymous No.11363061]

>>11363047
JIDF detected posting from Tel aviv

[Anonymous No.11363062]

>>11363030
I've had the same thought. I'm uncut and growing up I couldn't help but notice certain bizarre threads through other men's behavior and attitude.

I have some Jew ancestry, enough to have a bit of the nose, and I think the gist of it is that most of the goyim's genetic organizational tendencies is layered and highly vertical. As long as they have a strong, honorable, and righteous leaders, this will sustain them and bring prosperity. Otherwise they crumple under their own individual weakness, lack of ability to comprehend complex systems, and they're simply too stupid to self regulate and make their own choices, so they fall. The Jew on the other hand, no matter where he goes, he is his own master. The circumcision ritual scrambles his mind by marking him with an inescapable sign of his subjugation. He may have no master, yet he was subjugated and he fears the Rabbi and his family.

Anyway. A Jew outside of this weaponized, perverse dynamic is righteous and unwavering adherent to his higher ideals. This detached "otherness" and ability to think analytically is what their ritual and trauma programming twists into psychopathic and degenerate functioning. Which along with strong tribal loyalty, is a very stable structure. I didn't grow up around any Jews (and didn't really care for them due to their ritual and lawerly banker etc), but I've found people I naturally get along with... are Jews.

[Anonymous No.11363064]

>>11362998
Damn, thats really me. I remember smiling when a cop pulled a gun on me, It made me feel alive and excited.

[Anonymous No.11363065]

>>11363061
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvDogoFw4B8

[Anonymous No.11363071]

>>11363064
join the club faggot, dying aint that bad. my dad did it twice.

[Anonymous No.11363075]

>>11363071
Its more fun diffusing the situation and out bantering the cop tho, funny how one can go from being almost shot by a anxious cop to having a chill conversation a couple minutes later

[Anonymous No.11363089]

>>11363075

[Anonymous No.11363104]

>>11363062
The thing is psychopathy is en inherant trait you either have it or you dont. People can mimic it due to influences but a true psychopath is hardwired.
Its kinda like Darth Vader and Emperor Palpatine. Palpatine is a hard wired psychopath while vader is just kinda aping it to hide his pain. Vader is broken out of this spell by the love of his son, a true born psychopath would never be able to get out of that.

The thing is that I believe its not just empirical or standard accepted science but psychopathy has to do with something esoteric ie a psychopath has a corrupted heart chakra. And yeah I used to be an overly scientific athiest brainwashed into western thought until I got woken up and realized there are truths and other means of "science" in understanding this world that we arent allowed to know because when we have a complete picture of how everything fits together then the control system or matrix is dispelled.
I actually have a rather indepth knowledge of psychopaths having learned the hard way what they are and what they are capable of. People often throw around the term interchangeably without ever fully understanding it.
I honestly dont think many people on the planet can understand psychopathy as well as I do as well as how to detect them.
A key thing with psychopaths especially if you are on a phonecall with them is that they will always try to get you to give them revealing information in a sort of casual manner that they can further exploit. Basically a psychopath especially an intelligent one is always in a sort of offensive mindset constantly looking to manipulate and control people especially through their emotions. If you give a psychopath bland or generic answers while remaining monotone they will constantly try to up the ante to get you to react or they will give up.

[Anonymous No.11363129]

>>11363104
>it. Basically a psychopath especially an intelligent one is always in a sort of offensive mindset constantly looking to manipulate and control people especially through their emotions. If you give a psychopath bland or generic answers while remaining monotone they will constantly try to up the ante to get you to react or they will give up.

This is more of a sociopathic trait. High functioning psychopaths are working in the background and rarely call attention to themselves because they are concerned with mind over matter as opposed to emotion over mind. Although there is some overlap. Sociopath is the path of society and emotion is a large part of it.
Psychopathy is the path of the psyche. The mind.

[Anonymous No.11363148]

>>11362998
>she looks perfectly fine, everything is fine, trust her $1.5B, it will be fine

[Anonymous No.11363170]

>>11363148
It's weird to think actually intelligent guys like pic related (30 years industry experience and a PhD) got bullied by a retarded fraud into working long hours for shit pay and a demotion until he finally just killed himself.

[Anonymous No.11363174]

>>11363170
Hm. And then you factor in the media attention and propping it up in the public consciousness. Really makes you think.

[Anonymous No.11363175]

>>11361301
>>11361296
But wouldn't you then feel a heavy existential dread?
Imagine being in a room, alone, just you with just a bunch of toys, for your whole life.
True psychopathy must be hell

[Anonymous No.11363180]

>>11363175
>But wouldn't you then feel a heavy existential dread?
Psychopaths don't feel much of anything. That's the point. It's like anti-anxiety / reverse-autism.

[Anonymous No.11363181]

>>11361272
There is nothing powerful about preying on a human's natural inclination to be polite. It's like sitting behind the dealer in a game of Blackjack. They eventually are figured out and it just becomes awkward since it's obvious they are some retard with a mental disorder

[Anonymous No.11363248]

>>11363181
>There's nothing powerful about being able to use other people like cattle and lead them up the ramp with no remorse amidst a species that is prone to vertical organization, stratification, and compartmentalization.

I see that you're a fool. The greatest barrier to power is yourself and your moral sense, feeling bad, wrong, or in some manner diminished by harming others and going against what is "right". This is why psychopaths are so effective, they're playing the same game under very different rules.

Great quote:
"The fear of offending transcends even the fear of death."
It may have been Ted Bundy who said this.

[Anonymous No.11363260]

>>11363248
>I see that you're a fool. The greatest barrier to power is yourself and your moral sense, feeling bad, wrong, or in some manner diminished by harming others and going against what is "right". This is why psychopaths are so effective, they're playing the same game under very different rules.


based cringeposter

[Anonymous No.11363264]

>>11363260
;^)

[Anonymous No.11363319]

>>11363180
Explain American Psycho.

[Anonymous No.11363323]

>>11363319
fiction

[Anonymous No.11363334]

>>11363323
lolnice

[Anonymous No.11363364]

>>11361272
>What could possibly be the downsides to being so ruthless and feeling no remorse?

Psychopaths I know do have a problem. People wise up to them so they have to move on. People find where they moved and pass on the info about them.

They cannot form long term cooperative relationships which greatly limits what they can achieve.

Moral: be wary of beguiling strangers, check them out.

[Anonymous No.11363387]

>>11361272
I'll give you one of the big redpills in life

The bris is meant to induce psychopathy through early life trauma. If you ever wonder how they get ahead this is one of the reasons.

[Anonymous No.11363398]

>>11361272

Boredom. Psychopaths have extreme boredom. It's why they tend towards being adrenaline junkies.

[Anonymous No.11363437]

>>11362651
That's exactly what a psychopath would say.

[Anonymous No.11363528]

>>11361876
>Why can a psychopath not write a paper?
They can, but it'll probably be shit because are too lazy to do honest hard work. They can steal the work of someone of course. Or manipulate them into doing it for them, either covertly covertly or through blackmail. For example firing someone up with compliments and friendliness such that they talk about their current projects. After a while they can act to oppose the thing you have presented just to get you to defend it in detail, getting even more info. I had a couple of friends that did this type of thing to me. The better the thing I was telling them about, the more they acted they'd think it was such a waste of time, driving me to lecuture them and disclosing all the juicy stuff.

[Anonymous No.11363554]

>>11362264
>Thomas Edison and Isaac Newton did this exact things to become richer and more important.
What things are those?

[Anonymous No.11363561]

>>11363387
Are you stupid? Ever heard of childhood amnesia? Not to mention most babies aren't even conscious enough to recognize the experience, let alone have it greatly skew their mental development. If you still want to hate jews then you're gonna have to come up with a better reason.

[Anonymous No.11363734]

>>11363248
I think its because evolutionarily people are still social animals we are wired to be tribal hunter gatherers and we act like it. Morality is basically our instinct to take care of our tribe because without morality we would not be able to function as a team.
Now because of technology, money and a sprawling over populated society we no longer have that small tight knit tribe and people have largely become disposable tools which is very advantageous to the psyche of the psychopath.
ie the structure of our society no longer caters to our base instincts yet we are hard wired to still function by them.
the interesting thing is that there are backdoors and tricks into the human mind to trick or manipulate people into doing things they otherwise wouldnt do and the psychopaths in charge know all these.
There was some experiment where a person was given a switch that would shock another person and the person doing the shocking could hear the pain and suffering. They would want to stop pressing the button but upon calm suggestion of another person that it is alright to push the button they would continue to torture the other person even though they might think its wrong.

[Anonymous No.11363740]

>>11362264
doesnt realize world governments and corperations are filled with psychopaths who contaminate our society.
Its called System Capture or Deep Capture.
Basically its a theory that any time you have a hierachical structure it is natural that psychopaths will move up the ranks and corrupt the people below them and they will also bring in more psychopaths because psychopaths generally kinda trust each other when they have a vested interest.

[Anonymous No.11363753]

>>11363561
>Are you stupid? Ever heard of childhood amnesia?

Just because people lack declarative memory of the event does not mean it does not leave its mark.

Tards like you don't realize there are multiple forms of memory (look it up). Babies circumcised cry twice as much when immunized 12 months later. You bet it has an effect.

I was circumcized in my third year and I remember it - it was the most horrendous experience of my life. But even for those who can't remember it, the scars remain.

[Anonymous No.11363833]

>>11362177
What about high functioning psychopaths though? Gods among men

[Anonymous No.11363834]

>>11362240
This psychopath on quora
https://www.quora.com/profile/Athena-Walker
Claims that psychopaths don't feel stress, embarrassment, shame, anxiety, guilt etc. And they only do so cognitively to fit in

[Anonymous No.11363837]

>>11362389
Psychopaths aren't narcissistic, they don't have an 'ego', they only think about improving their situation alone

[Anonymous No.11363838]

>>11362987
Narcissism and psychopathy are different. Psychopaths don't think they are charismatic, they either know they are or aren't

[Anonymous No.11363848]

>>11362244
You can't mentally hurt a psychopath because they don't care about what you have to say. You can physically hurt them but they won't feel emotional distress.
The only way to scare a psychopath is by pumping their blood with CO2

[Anonymous No.11363849]

>>11361272

no friends probably but the again if you are a psychopat do you really need a friend?

>>11361279

this
they probably do not feel the impeding collapse

[Anonymous No.11363854]

>>11363849
I'd imagine a psychopathic society would implement strict laws to prevent such a collapse such that fucking people over would not be in their best interest

[Anonymous No.11363856]

Psychopathy is literally the best bits about getting drunk without the negatives:

>Transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS).

>It is used on the prefrontal cortex. The brain works using electrochemical signals. Neuroscientists know if they use TMS, which is basically pulsing, or directing electromagnetic waves to specific areas of the brain they can turn those areas up or down. They can interfere with the function of the brain. As I said, it only lasts a half an hour. Given that premise, because they know the areas of the brain of the psychopath that are different from the way normal brains function, they can target, in theory, in normal brains and turn those knobs up and down using TMS.

>So this technique can show a neurotypical what psychopathy feels like. Oxford Professor Kevin Dutton described it as feeling as though you have had a half a bottle of wine without the tiredness or lethargy. You lose all your inhibitions, you have no anxiety, but you're still very switched on. You can do whatever you want, and nothing matters. He had it done by a colleague at Oxford. He also said he rather enjoyed it.

[Anonymous No.11363862]

>>11363854

I think the whole thing is somehow self-balancing

rabbits cannot eat all the foxes and foxes cannot eat all the rabbits

[Anonymous No.11363877]

>>11363856
Also psychopaths are immune to drug addiction

[Anonymous No.11363884]

>>11362554
>They build the core of control in every large society and act as the glue keeping the numerous institutions together.
While a psychopath might imagine himself to do this, that is nothing but delusions of grandeur. A psychopath is nothing but self serving and fuck everything else. Society can fucking burn as long as the psychopath benefits personally from it.

[Anonymous No.11363889]

>>11363862
If the rabbits stay unaware and even start worshipping the foxes then the foxes will eat all the rabbits.

[Anonymous No.11363894]

>>11363884
Sometimes ruthlessness is necessary
Most likely you benefit from corporations run by psychopaths

[Anonymous No.11363898]

Psychopaths don't need neurotypicals nor do neurotypicals need psychopaths

[Anonymous No.11363963]

>>11363848

I've never met a psychopath in my life that didn't show signs of distress when they felt out of control over a situation. I think you guys think psychopath are literal robots that feel nothing, and thats not true. Plenty of psychopaths show desire, lust and anger

[Anonymous No.11364011]

>>11363753
Not seeing any actual sources for this claim:
https://www.google.com/search?&q=Babies+circumcised+cry+twice+as+much+when+immunized+12+months+later..

[Anonymous No.11364047]

I think they can't just shill like normal individuals. Imagine living your life scheming to get powerful to keep scheming to get more powerful... They probably don't play single player vidya, because it is pointless to them, they won't "win" more being alone and enjoying some silly passtime. It should be a curse not spending a weekend with your family watching movies, or even doing nothing alone in your room thinking about whatever. These folks have no inner peace and can't ever be happy.

[Anonymous No.11364050]

>>11364047
>chill
Autocorrect

[Anonymous No.11364271]

>>11361283
That's if you include those in prison. The average intelligence of psychopaths in society is higher as they have to adjust to fit in

[Anonymous No.11364277]

>>11364047
Psychopaths can enjoy things

[Anonymous No.11364281]

>>11364271
Why wouldn't you include those in prison? If you excluded everyone in prison then every demographic's average IQ would be higher.

[Anonymous No.11364346]

>>11361272
>Is psychopathy a superpower?
No. Psychopathy is literally the result of a damaged brain. They lack the ability to empathize, which makes them borderline autistic. Our ability for empathy evolved for good reasons. Psychopaths will often act shortsighted and struggle in cooperative work and socializing, which is devastating for long term success. I wouldn't call exploiting suckers a superpower.

[Anonymous No.11364377]

>>11364346
There's a middle ground between OP's superpower shit vs. just considering it a purely maladaptive disease. I think psychopaths have a good temperament for work that requires dealing with a lot of negative feedback and unfavorable odds of success since they don't register that sort of context as stressful. Landlords, collections workers, and cold call sales agents would probably all do well with that condition. Similar to how on the opposite end of the spectrum autistic people are still potentially useful in jobs needing those who are comfortable with little stimulation and long hours of solitary work on abstract and uninteresting to most normal people types of problems.

[Anonymous No.11364413]

>>11364377
>they don't register that sort of context as stressful
The stress response exists for a reason. Use it to your advantage. Many high achievers report that they perform at their best under extreme pressure.

[Anonymous No.11364425]

>>11364413
There are benefits to not having as much of a stress response. That's why propranolol got so popular among performing artists and athletes. You're taking things with too much of a black and white perspective here. Stress isn't always good or always bad.

[Anonymous No.11364433]

>>11364425
>propranolol
moar liek propanoLOL
LOL

[Anonymous No.11364440]

>>11364425
>propranolol
Athletes use it as PED because it reduces trembling and is therefore beneficial for accuracy based sports.

>There are benefits to not having as much of a stress response
Of course. It's you who acts like the world is black and white by not acknowledging its benefits. If a person can't deal with stress, then stress will be a huge disadvantage. However, if a person can deal with it, then it is very beneficial. The key point is that stress management is a skill that can be learned and improved and unless you have a serious stress related disorder it will do more good than harm.

[Anonymous No.11364456]

>>11364440
I didn't act like the world is black and white. I explicitly told you stress isn't aleays bad or always good you retard.
>Athletes use it as PED because it reduces trembling and is therefore beneficial for accuracy based sports.
It also blocks adrenaline and noradrenaline. You keep saying it's X in response to everything as an attempted counterargument like it's somehow impossible for more than one effect to exist with anything.

[Anonymous No.11364538]

They are the very reason we have laws. This scum(when wealthy) is the cause of all human suffering, and a utopia will be achieved if one day we can find a way to prevent ASPD from existing in the human genome for good.

[Anonymous No.11364692]

>>11363319
Read the book in the end, it was just a dream.

[Anonymous No.11364834]

>>11361272
Honestly, the more I read this thread and see what people consider good and bad for Psychopaths I realize you people just idolize normal Narcissism.
Not really what a psycho would be in real life.

[Anonymous No.11364841]

>>11364834
I guess "Psychopath" is just a cooler name?
And Narcisists just got the fame as exclusively being the dumb, highschool jockey that loses the girl at the end and end up becoming a janitor?

[Anonymous No.11365000]

>>11361272
These are people whom in civilized conditions, keep society on its toes -- and in wartime, become valuable as their maladaptiveness is directed toward outgroups rather than inward.

The beauty of a sunset is lost upon them. It's extreme and prurient appetitive seeking constantly without ever achieving satiety -- always more for the sake of more.

[Anonymous No.11365006]

>>11362998
>>11363064
You can be a carrier for these genes -- even test positively, and not have the required experiential epigenetic triggers (abuse, neglect, privation, spoliation) to become a monster, or a machine.

[Anonymous No.11365038]

>>11364692
I read the book, it just made me think the faggot was a lier or a schizo

[Anonymous No.11365048]

>>11361272
ITT: Weak little beta males who think they're gonna be a SUPER COOL, LIKE, FRICKEN, LIKE ***PSYCHOPATHIC MANIPULATOR*** JUST LIKE MY FAVE-RIT TV SHOW GUYS OMGGGG


just fucking kill yourselves. Get a knife, slash your throat from ear to ear, right now. Get up, just do it. Do what's right. Kill yourselves. NOW.

[Anonymous No.11365053]

>>11364538
Bait or truly stupid.

[Anonymous No.11365067]

>>11365048

Calm down, emotional soiboi

[Anonymous No.11365068]

>>11361272
>What could possibly be the downsides to being so ruthless and feeling no remorse?
when people catch on you become a pariah

[Anonymous No.11365080]

>>11363364
this.
>>11361272
If they are not high functioning enough/dont settle down in a career that encourages/rewards psychopathic behavior like corporate or banking, they become criminals which is obvious a problem for society at large. I can't believe you have to ask this. What is wrong with you op?

[Anonymous No.11365941]

>>11361272

A psychopath can only succeed either in an environment where superficiality is rewarded, or by surrounding themselves with idiots. It's not a superpower. Anyone of decent intelligence and judgement can see right through that shit.

American Psycho perfectly exemplifies this - Bateman is clearly a fucking weirdo who doesn't actually blend as well as he think he does - but in shallow corporate culture it doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.11366003]

>>11361285
Spotted the psychopath

[Anonymous No.11366019]

are people with the Sensory Processing Sensitivity personality trait (aka highly sensitive people) the polar opposite of psychopaths?

who's better at reading other humans?
the highly empathic SPS person or the psychopath?

[Anonymous No.11366052]

>>11361272
Jews are a great a example of psychopaths otherwise its faggots. Both seek to undermine peaceful societies and replace it with destruction an misery. The current mental degeneration of the general public along with academia, government is from jews and leftist psychopaths, thats what happens everyone loses when psychopaths are free to walk around. So extermination of psychopaths is the most beneficial for society.

[Anonymous No.11366075]

>>11366052
you need to calm way the fuck down there Hitler.

cause you forgot to mention starting a race war is a great idea and how Trump did nothing wrong and everyone but Fox news is lying to us all. Also you got racism on 4chan is against the rules. Get banned, then vanned plz.

[Anonymous No.11366139]

>>11362998
Foresight and empathy are closely related in that cognition is essentially social, from an evolutionary point-of-view. Psychopaths who function highly enough to perpetrate a scam like chick related did, plan only in the sense that they well remember the results of prior improvisations, and then keep building on whatever happened to work, but their sense of strategy is never deep enough for perfectly commonplace introspection & gossip about motives to arise. For that reason, one of the easiest ways to sound someone out for psychopathy (that is anyone who isn't overtly anti-social) is to initiate conversation that isn't "about" anything except the usual sort of "persons of interest and how they compare" chat that highly intelligent, but otherwise normal, people will enjoin at the slightest prompting, and with easy mastery at sustaining interest: Another way of putting this is that the more guarded anyone is, the less subtle, diverting, and ultimately trustworthy, they prove to be, notwithstanding whether masks of tone are involved. Something of the reverse is also true, in that psychopaths, where present in a situation, function as testers for natural stupidity, with the dumbest being least aware of the difference's monstrosity. Sure they'll get the jokes the local psycho butts, but never get it that you're not exaggerating.

[Anonymous No.11366406]

>>11366139
Interesting read!
>people that don't like to gossip are psychopaths
Psychopaths might not like to gossip, but I don't think people that don't like to gossip necessarily are psychopaths.

[Anonymous No.11366413]

Most psychopaths are narcissists. Most narcissist gossip like hell for various reasons. Often to devalue and spread shit about people they percieve as a threat in some way. To convince the people around them that they are the one they should be trusting and backing.

[Anonymous No.11366422]

>>11361279
>This is why third world countries are corrupt.
False.

[Anonymous No.11366423]

>>11361272
>What could possibly be the downsides to being so ruthless and feeling no remorse?
You can't turn it off exactly. Also non-psychopaths can be jsut as ruthless and cold as actual tested psychopaths.

[Anonymous No.11366463]

>>11361296
>>11361301
Not officially diagnosed but I wish I wasn't. Im so bored and the only thing keeping me going is an intellectual pursuit of knowledge. I hang out with friends just to appear normal. Sucks when everything feels like an obligation

[Anonymous No.11366675]

I remember watching a documentary about diagnosed psychopaths and one very interesting case was a married man with kids and he had a very functioning life, someone you would associate with virtues as well.
He didn't seem 'evil' or selfish in any regard, at times very altruistic and though he couldn't "Love" his children he still cared greatly for them and prioritised them above all else (Perhaps this is because he could recognise these children are / is his future)

Why would this be the case given how many on here describe psychopaths.
I think perhaps a common incorrect assumption is there being a correlation between psychopathy and motivation.

[Anonymous No.11366720]

Is "Justice" or at least western ambitions of justice, not an embodiment of psychopathic tendency?
Is psychopathy characterised by lack of emotion and empathy or is it characterised by a specific set of ambitions and motivations? Which (Ambition and motivation) could equally be heavily tied to an emotional stimulus?

I suppose what I'm proposing is that a psychopath could (Theoretically) equally be just as altruistic and just as they could be manipulative and self-serving?

[Anonymous No.11366735]

>>11361279
>Obviously this would result in the death of everyone on /pol/
Whites are the most empathetic race, you fucking cringelord.