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>Physics Major
>Math Major
>EE Major
Why are people in these majors so fucking arrogant and elitist? No one fucking cares you fags.

>> No.11359899

In case of Physics, it's justified superiority.
But of course, this doesn't mean you gotta be a douche about it.

>> No.11359900

>>11359894
Why do you touch yourself at night?

>> No.11359903

>>11359900
It feels so fucking good, why do you not?

>> No.11359922

Well, physics and pure math require a high IQ so nothing wrong with the pride there

However, I'm not sure why EE majors are arrogant. EE is for retards.

>Hurrr durrr look at me. I can plug numbers into Ohm's Law.

>> No.11359923

>>11359903
based

>> No.11359940

>>11359894
>Physics Major
>Math Major
flexing their high IQ
>EE Major
retards thinking they smart

>> No.11359943

>>11359940
>>11359922
>>11359899
Fuck EE, fuck all engineering, Fuck Chemistry, Fuck Biology, Fuck Physics, and Fuck Math.

>> No.11359948

>>11359894
Because your liberal arts degree about basket weaving is inherently weaker and woman like.

>> No.11359958

>>11359943
https://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/majors-that-pay-you-back/bachelors
It really do be like dat

>> No.11359963

The average engineer, with his IQ of 125 is the smartest person in a group of 22.

As an average mathematician, my IQ is somewhere around 130 points, that makes me the smartest person in a group of 44. That makes me twice as smart than him.

>> No.11359980

>>11359963
>he didnt get a legitimate IQ test in elementary school
Haha brainlet

>> No.11359994

>>11359894
Says the CS major

>> No.11360000

>>11359994
lol Fuck CS majors they're annoying and elitist as fuck.

>> No.11360012

>>11360000
If you study anything liberal arts related you are inherently a brainlet and have no reason to go to university. You better have connections or realize you should learn a trade.

>> No.11360016

>>11359894
You care.

>> No.11360018

>>11359963
Bait

>> No.11360020

>>11360012
>>11359948
Who said I study the liberal arts? Fuck the Liberal arts and fuck university

>> No.11360028

Being an elitist is equivalent to having high standards
Being called an elitist means someone's offended they did not meet those standards
Elitism should be promoted in order to likewise promote high standards

>> No.11360053

>>11359894
>No one [...] cares
You do.

>> No.11360111

>>11360053
Your mom cares

>> No.11360114

I went to the top physics school in the country. I was considered one of the best undergrads in the world for quantum mechanics and I can assure you it is not justified. Most of us are over glorified idiots who have something to prove. People will question your intelligence because either they are up their own ass or because they want to gaslight you to make you think you're stupid. Dont be this person just enjoy it and have fun.

>> No.11360122

>>11359894
Physics and math majors are mostly based and chill in my experience

But yes EE majors are incredibly arrogant

>> No.11360126

>>11359958
>Pharmacy in top ten

what year is it

>> No.11360145

>>11359940
this

>> No.11360151
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11360151

I don't brag about my major. I brag about the school I go to.

I respect art history majors from my elite school more than I respect STEM majors from mediocre state universities. Any retard can get a STEM degree from those shitty schools. It's like someone bragging about winning the special olympics.

>> No.11360153

>>11359894
Triple majored in all 3, does that make me the most elitist person on earth?

>> No.11360181

physicists and mathematicians are the most comfy people in the world, you don't have to explain anything to them, tell them to do something even if its never been done before and they understand instantly, my brains gets all warm and fuzzy, working with those people which means not having to spend hours and different metaphors and explanations to get "normal" people to do something, its bliss.

>> No.11360190

>>11360151
Your school is gay

>> No.11361254
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>>11360114
>one of the best undergrads in the world for quantum mechanics

>> No.11361268

It's difficult not to feel elitist when the average member of the public doesn't have the capacity to understand what an "even number" is.

With that being said, I would place more value on hard work, grit and determination, rather than pure intellectualism, any day. The two rarely convalesce for whatever reason.

>> No.11361717

>>11359922
It probably has something to do with EE being basically an all encompassing field that ends up doing well in systems/multi-disciplinary settings. Electrical engineers do everything from biotechnology/systems biology to materials science to information theory so it allows a window into basically all other active fields of research in a way that most fields don't at the moment. I don't really consider myself arrogant as an EE focusing on systems engineering, but I do notice that within my sub-field the most competitive/competent people tend to either come from physics/math/EE or physical chemistry. Your mileage may vary, and there's definitely a lot of dumb motherfuckers who come out of EE programs, but that would be my guess as to why you see arrogant EE majors.

>> No.11361723

>>11360153
Nope, EE ruins everything. One-drop rule.

>> No.11361726

>>11360151
Eh, I guess. During undergrad I spent two summers working for a research lab at Princeton (which is a significantly better school than the state school I went to) and while there were undoubtedly plenty of really brilliant people within the field I was in, I wasn't exactly super impressed by the average student there. It just basically seemed like another college but the kids were even more sheltered and useless than at most state schools.

>> No.11361730

>>11359894
Because they can never get a job, so they must compensate some other way.

>> No.11361752

>>11359948
>>11360012
Do you play video games or watch movies?

>> No.11361825

>>11359963
>The average engineer, with his IQ of 125 is the wealthiest person in a group of 22.

>As an average mathematician, my IQ is somewhere around 130 points, that makes me the poorest person in a group of 44. That makes me a grade school teacher for his children.
FTFY

>> No.11361827

>>11360151
>Why yes, I did go to MIT, as you can see here I majored in Lesbian Dance Theory

>> No.11361829

>>11360000
Quads of cope

>> No.11361836

>>11359948
Physics and mathematics are liberal arts.

>> No.11361854

>Be at a party
>Someone talks about studying engineering
>Out of the woodwork some weird looking dude joins the conversation
>Starts talking about how there's no real point studying engineering, because "it's all just math", and if engineers were actually smart they would study math like him
>Engineers start trolling him by asking him engineering questions that don't have well defined mathematical answers
>Math boy doesn't know how to answer any of them
>The trolling escalates and he breaks into an autism fit, screeching "JUST SHOW ME THE EQUATIONS AND I CAN SOLVE IT" over and over again
>Several minutes later he leaves, never to be seen again

Mathematicians are special

>> No.11361858

>>11361825
It never even began for mathcels.

>> No.11361921

>>11360151
>it's an undergrad on /sci/ episode

>> No.11362079

in all the seriousness, graduated with masters in maths, bottom 10% of my class, by a sheer luck landed a job in an r&d institute, been through multiple projects in different domains, and usually it takes 2-3 months before i can deliver results on par with specialized phds working there

two takeaways:

1) the actual work of a researcher is piss easy, getting your foot in the door is the real problem
2) it's ok to be a mathematician

>> No.11362108

>>11362079
>master's
>research
>math
>research
>OK to be a mathnigger
nope

>> No.11362126

>>11361254
Top tier university taking classes 2 years above me and doing better than the grad students.... laughing at others probably cures your insecurities. I have taken 3 undergrad courses and 2 grad courses in quantum mechanics. The next thing I could take was QFT. But of course this board isnnormaly filled with community college brainlets

>> No.11362143

>>11362126
>2 years above me
>presence of any grad student at all
>doing better
If you want to larp, at least inform yourself about what the fuck you're talking about.

>> No.11362152

>>11362079
Dude, your being outside academia after a math msc despite wanting to go into research means you failed at life. Only academics can call themselves researchers, industry only seek engineers. Even if your fancy title is "researcher", you are secretly an engineer (and guess what, there's a catch: companies do this to justify a low wage, you're basically paying for a fancy title. Your job is that of an engineer but you are paid like a researcher). I'm not even talking about the utter lack of research freedom and the shortsightedness of industrial """research"""

>> No.11362159

>>11362143
I bet even a brainlet like you understands what the cause behind fermionic pressure is right? I bet you can even add two spin 1/2 particles you little genius

>> No.11362161

>>11362143
Hey, 2+x with x>2 is at least 5 right? There are 4 years of undergrad... so what does that mean for someone I'm taking a class with that's in their fifth year?

>> No.11362169

>>11362159
Not him but Pauli's exclusion principle? How do you "understand" this, other than rambling about the antisymmetry of the wave function though
t. brainlet

>> No.11362171

>>11362161
An undergrad who changed program, an almost-dropout, or someone who's studying part-time. Are you retarded or just pretending? Oh wait, you think a grad degree is obtained by following courses. That ought to answer for that.

>> No.11362175

>>11362171
Someone in their fifth year is a grad student at a top tier university you absolute dunce. Quit while you're not ahead

>> No.11362179

>>11362169
I'll give you a hint, it can be understood, and can be mathematically proved and quantifiable. I guess what you consider rambling is actually just out of your reach child.

>> No.11362180

>>11362175
Congrats, your chromosome test came back. "Above average"!

>> No.11362181

>>11359922

Yes, I'll take fries with that.

>> No.11362183

>>11361854
kek

>> No.11362206

>>11362152
>what are academies of sciences

basically all the research you want, but no didactic work

>> No.11362229

>>11359894
Because it's not possible to even pass one single exam of those without an IQ in the 120s.

Trust me, I studied up to 12 hours a day without distraction since day 1 and was kicked out in the fourth semester.

>> No.11362267

>>11362229
I don't know Andrew Dotson seems to be doing fine and he is a highschool chad former biology major.

>> No.11362287

>>11362267
He might be very high IQ then.

Worst thing is: I got kicked out at 27 and since then I am a Neet because no one hires a retard. My uni life looks like I was lazy and only party and not that I was the hardest working student in my semester, took office hours, tutors and went to sleep at 3 am because of the workload.

>> No.11362294

>>11362287
What country ? What major ?

>> No.11362298

>>11362294
Chemical Engineering in Germany.

>> No.11362319

>>11362298
Don't sweat it dude , at least Germany has good neet buxs , what intrigues me is what you were doing in University at age 27 ?
I thought that you were an American who served in the Army.

>> No.11362338

>>11362319
Germany has a weird school system and unless you are highly disciplined during puberty or parents kicking your ass, it's very easy to fuck up and extremely shedule your school life, that's how.

Which is why I took Uni as serious as it possibly gets and it still wasn't enough and I got kicked out. Basically, my life is over now.

>> No.11362383

>>11359903
>>11357315

>> No.11362388

>>11362338
Just keep your chin up , you'll eventually find a job , all neets do.

>> No.11362418

>>11359894
Those are the only majors that matter

>> No.11362427

>>11361854
>he can't abstract and resolve from sheer conceptual basis to mathematical prowress.
Mathematician. Just not a good one. On the flipside, I have seen a mathematician absolutely decimate physics related conversations.

>> No.11362439

>>11362126
>undergrad and grad courses in qm
>no qft
>not taking qft during your bachelor's

>> No.11362461

>>11362439
We did cover intro QFT in my second grad class

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>>11359922
>Hurrr durrr look at me. I can plug numbers into Ohm's Law.

Circuit analysis gets a lot more complicated than that and it will give you a brain fuck.

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>>11360000
Every time I go to stackoverflow the answers are full of absolute cunts.

>> No.11362593

>>11362585
Most of them dont have the reading comprehension or logical deduction skills to figure out what is being asked and the appropriate answer to give, but they'll be quick to act like they know shir when irl they're full of shit

>> No.11362616

mathematicians really are special, i posted a question on math stackexchange once and not only did people start fighting eachother they alos posted about 10 different answers to a simple question and basically solved my homework for me

it's hilarious , they also get mad at eachother when somebody shows up who is obviously much better than them at math but keeps a low profile

google math stackexhange cleo

to see what kind of autism math can produce lol

>> No.11362629

>>11359899
>>11359922
>>11359940

These, if you're talking about people that focused on the theoretical courses in Physics. The guys that go experimental are basically glorified lab engineers. They're not dumb, but they don't deserve that reputation that the people dealing with QM, QFT, GR, Relativistic Electrodynamics, Statistical Mechanics have. For fuck's sake, we had to use Jackson's book in undergrad for my Electrodynamics course, it was a fucking nightmare. Also, we learn Lebesgue integration in multiple dimensions in the first semester, it's ridiculous. Obviously, we only find out how they are actually called when we get to it either in Measure Theory (a lot of physicists choose pure math courses as optionals) or Quantum Mechanics.

>> No.11362671

>>11362498
>oh noes, a damped
harmonic oscillator

>> No.11362679

>>11362498
This is literally second year EE mate. You couldnt pick a harder problem?

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>>11362679
>This is literally second year EE mate. You couldn't pick a harder problem?
First year actually and it was a concept not a problem. This is a problem.

>>11362671
How do you know that it is damped?

>> No.11362718

>>11362706
It's a differential equation. Resistance is the dampener. Not the other anon btw but that's really ez pz second year stuff

>> No.11362738

>>11362718
>>It's a differential equation. Resistance is the dampener. Not the other anon btw but that's really ez pz second year stuff
It is only damped when the resistance is high enough relative to the inductance. Otherwise it will be underdamped.

If it's so easy then you should be able to solve my problem in a heartbeat.

>> No.11362763

>>11362498
lmao any retard who understands the basics of diff EQ's can do this shit

this is why EE's are arrogant. they think the shit they do is difficult when it's not. at least mechanical engineers deal with the navier stokes equations which are far more complicated than this simple shit

>> No.11362769

>>11362763
well solve my problem then. After all any retard can do it.

>> No.11362800

>>11362763
Cope, EE is the hardest engineering discipline.

>> No.11362943

>>11362706
This is circuits II lol. Idk why you wouldnt post an electrodynamics problem or something.

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>>11362943
I did this in circuits 1 and circuit analysis can be a brain fuck too.

>> No.11363318

>>11359963
Mate, at 140 and up we realize it's not actually a measure

>> No.11363353

>>11359894
>Why are people in these majors so fucking arrogant and elitist?
So you're not studying one of these and that hurts your pride.
So insecure.

>> No.11363360

>>11362498
>baby first differential equation
Yikes

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>>11362427
As a mathematician I respect engineers for accepting they want a job without too much stress.
But I can't stand physicist midwits.
Anything they said is sometimes an half assed math model, only fooling engineers looking like sperglord, but not fooling actual academics. Yet, being less hirable than applied mathematicians.
I just can't, it's a shit degree nowadays.

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>>11361854
>be the absolute state of injunerds
>god enters your room
>you hound him with arbitrary definitions
>including who did what and when
>like a history book
>still unable to recognize that specific instances of universal conditions are irrelevant to god
>god leaves, finish beer and suck each other off
I can't wait until you fags realize that you are the only thing more obsolescent than your design.

>> No.11363402

>>11362706

easy-peasy stuff.

Electromagnetics / electrodynamics on the other hand...

>> No.11363424

>>11362616
>As for Cleo, I do not know him/her. All I know is that he merely posts expressions without any reasoning. Pleas for such have been fruitless. People like this make me sad, as they have their priorities seriously misplaced. Did his posting the answer influence the direction of my problem solving? I'm sure it did, but not the way you might suspect. It angered me, and made me more determined to put a good solution out there. And I did not assume that he was correct

>> No.11363735

>>11362706
Im this anon
>>11362671
Isn't this just an initial value problem? As soon as the switch is flipped, you essentially have a free rlc circuit, which is described by the damped harmonic oscillator above. The only thing you might need is the initial value of the current which can be found through kirchhoff I guess.

>> No.11363745

>>11362706
this was my first semester science elective
i thought EE went into micro-controllers and more complicated circuit design and motors and lasers and shit
not this plug-into-a-formula and solve stuff

>> No.11363747

>>11359894
math
https://www.maths.ed.ac.uk/~v1ranick/papers/schmid.pdf
physics
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1802.08264.pdf
EE
>>11362706

This is not a fair comparison but I don't know any EE so I couldn't pick anything hard. Maybe someone else could post something more impressive? EE is probably pretty close for undergrad. I actually think undergrad math and physics is pretty easy. Math at least, physics can be made to be a pain if the professor wants. At research level there is a huge difference though.

I think you get the idea. Not that many people can do this stuff. Some probably are elitist, but not really arrogant, because it is difficult stuff. Keep in mind they're more likely to be "autistic" as well so they come off worse than they intend. Just about everyone subtly brags about what they do well, STEM people are just bad at being subtle. Do you also get annoyed at bodybuilders or beautiful women's clothing choices? They don't directly tell you, but they definitely do have pride in themselves and their clothing is meant to emphasize it to others. STEM in fact thrives on bluntness and directness, opposite to what most people are. Social interaction is usually about avoiding direct routes when possible, while STEM is the exact opposite. Look at "akshully" or "grammar nazi" as examples of people's distaste saying something's wrong. Most people are okay with making occasional mistakes, that's why they aren't good at math.

>> No.11363870

>>11363745
EE does, this Anon just probably either didn't make it that far, or isn't there yet. EE focuses pretty heavily on things like Atomic Layer Deposition for integrated circuit manufacturing, information and control theory for all sorts of controllers and regulation systems, or topology for modeling of in the air signal transmission.

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11363911

EEchad with two EE degrees here (each one in a different country).
I don't know why there's a brainlet retard posting in this thread easy 1st year circuits that are completely trivial to anyone that knows how to solve a differential equation.
The thing that makes EE difficult is that in some courses you need to have a considerable amount of knowledge in several other fields (software engineering, electronics, telecommunications, control engineering, energy engineering etc).
The harder courses that I took were physics of semiconductors (right after quantum mechanics and solid-state physics), statistical signal processing (right after two courses about Lebesgue measure, probability spaces and theorems of convergence) and another course that was a mix of control theory with power electronics and electrical machines. I'm a good programmer so I had an easy time with all computer engineering courses.
Furthermore, I don't claim that EE is harder or easier than any other degree, but the circuits that were posted on this thread are very stupid.

>> No.11363913

>>11362383
>porn

Are most males incapable of fapping without porn now?

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>>11363911
And by the way, I have moved away from EE towards software engineering because there are more jobs and they usually have higher salaries.

>> No.11364202

>>11362229
I don't believe it, I scored 109 in an IQ test, yet I'm close to top of my class without trying.
>>11362616
>they also get mad at eachother when somebody shows up who is obviously much better than them at math but keeps a low profile
Kek, this.
Some mathematicians seek the big dick treatment, yet these people get btfo by the silent kid that sits in the back

>> No.11364469

>>11364202
Yeah, I feel like there's basically two things happening simultaneously.
1, people vastly overestimate the threshold IQ for success in these fields. Certainly if you want to be a superstar within the field it's helpful to have a significantly above average IQ, but to be a decent student at an average school doesn't really require some incredibly above average intelligence in the age of Chegg and free internet tutoring and almost guaranteed curving.
2, I think standards in many fields have exponentially dropped in response to so many of the fields becoming so interdisciplinary. To prepare a student for the modern market place you basically just give them a very wide veneer of education where you just barely gloss the surface of whatever variety of sub-fields are available. You generally don't get to the point where a lot of stem majors require any sort of a brain beyond average until you get to junior/senior year when you need to dive hard into whatever sub-field you wish to pursue research wise, and a lot of people don't even do that and just take whatever is easiest for the grades regardless of depth of material.

>> No.11364474

>>11363735
Keep solving anon

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>>11364474
Not doing your homework friendo

>> No.11364951

>>11364509
I already have the correct solution

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>> No.11365339

>>11359894

Physics major:

IQ: Double Digits

>> No.11365343

>>11359899

Kek.. Not really. A lot of intelligence is relative to what you do. Some people are good at physics but are totally fucking braindead when it comes to other shit.

>> No.11365345

>>11359894
Its their coping mechanism for choosing a dead end major.

>> No.11365353

>>11359894
>tfw nicest, smartest student i've met was a physics/math double major
It must cancel out.

>> No.11365474

>>11361827
keked