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Just a reminder that if the China issue is not solved there is no hope to solve global warming.

>> No.11268680

>>11268677
Stop buying shit made in china. Oh wait you can't because it's literally impossible

>> No.11268681

>>11268677
What is the scientific basis for this claim?

>> No.11268685

>>11268677
If we keep clamping cords and vaccinating I'm sure it'll solve itself.... sure it will.. meanwhile, special ed assistants in every classroom.

Yep. Bit by bit.

>> No.11268688

>>11268680
>I NEED to buy this iPhone!

>> No.11268690

>>11268677
>Per capita
>Chinese

Do you realize that the chinese just happen to have a lot more "per capita" than the fucking US or the rest of the world while we are at it right'

>> No.11268692

>>11268680
I bet our umbilical clamps are even made in China. Circumcision devices too. Maybe they'll jsut make the vaccines there too?

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>>11268677

>> No.11268696

>>11268692
>umbilicial clamps
What is this new schizo theory?

>> No.11268699
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>>11268696
Not a theory. Measurable IQ reduction and "delay" in brain myelination.

The only justification they can come up with now was the form of vitamin K they used to use, which occasionally caused jaundice.

>> No.11268703

>>11268699
Got any sources?

>> No.11268705

Global warming is not an issue

>> No.11268711

>>11268703
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30473033

Etc. There's a Cochrane review as well. Just search it on pubmed.

>> No.11268718

>>11268680
Basically yeah
It also doesn't help that our governments are implementing even stronger environmental regulations here so the businesses flee to the promised land of lax regulations, Asia, and are for some reason allowed to sell us products made in Asia, fucking globohomojews.

>> No.11268719

>>11268711
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26010418

>> No.11268722

>>11268690
so what?

>> No.11268724

>>11268699
So wait, is the problem that the cord gets cut too early or that it gets cut too late?

>> No.11268726

>>11268705
not if we grow the balls to secure our borders

>> No.11268731

>>11268724
The problem is that the blood in the placenta is not being allowed to flow into the infant. It should not be clamped early.

>> No.11268736

>>11268731
Ah i see, i can totally see that having a negative effect one the baby, i wonder how widespread this practice is in general in different countries.

>> No.11268740

>>11268736
Don't know. What's clear is it needs to be eradicated wherever it takes root.

>> No.11268747

>>11268740
>takes root
you make it seem like it wasn't the standard practice until recently

>> No.11268751

>>11268747
Throughout history it has not been the standard practice, particularly because it raises the odds of killing the mother and, if for some backwards reason the cord was briefly routinely severed while it was clearly doing something, midwives or equivalent would have realized this. Writings all the way back to the ancient Greeks stated the cord should be left until all pulsations have ceased, "else the child is weaker than it ought to have been". It began in the US in the early 50's, like many other practices that just came out of the blue.

>> No.11268755

>>11268747

You make it seem like it was always the standard practice

>> No.11268759

>>11268751
>>11268755
Has been the standard practice for the whole period of my life, i'd say that it has quite successfully taken root and you shouldn't talk of it as something that has yet to take root.

>> No.11268764

>>11268759

Thanks for clarifying that anything from 18 years+ has sufficiently taken root(?)

>> No.11268772

>>11268764
I'd say that a method that has been the defacto method for over 30 years has successfully taken root yes.

>> No.11268775

asked me mum if my cord had been immediately snipped and she said yes
feels pretty bad man

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>>11268705
Meanwhile in Australia...

>> No.11268889

>>11268677
Reminder that an optimal carbon tax would solve all of this.

>> No.11268906

>>11268889
Let's wait till the Netherlands are under water and Australia has burned down, then we can start doing something about it

>> No.11268907

>>11268680
People need stop buying stuff they don't need.

There are many ways of deriving pleasure from objects that isn't from a shop.

>> No.11268913

>>11268722

You know what per capita means right?

>> No.11268925

>>11268913
Would you rather have "per km^2"? Per capita is the fairest way to measure it, you disagreeing because you want to be a first class citizen while everyone else isn't is not an argument

>> No.11268941

>>11268889
it would globalists wont let that pass unfortunately

>> No.11268944

>>11268925
>>11268913
Per capita is a shit measure, chinks pollute as much per capita as germans but one german is worth many chinks

>> No.11268946

>>11268944
what i mean by this is that pollution should be measured against the worth created of which the pollution is a result

>> No.11268948

>>11268944
Per capita is useful for seeing which equally developed nations are worse polluters than others, it's useful for seeing where the biggest improvements can be made, how you can't work this out for yourself is beyond me

>> No.11268990

>>11268948
>it's useful for seeing where the biggest improvements can be made
By this metric it's in Qatar.

But even if Qatar goes back to preindustrial levels, that won't stop global warming.
So per capita measures aren't useful.

>> No.11268991

>>11268944
>REEEEEEEE nooooo you can't make everyone the same I WANT TO BE FIRST CLASS AND THEY SHOULD BE SECOND CLASS CITIZENS

>> No.11268993

>>11268990
You're a special kind of retard, aren't ya? He said "biggest improvements", not "only improvements". I'll reword it since I fear you might have problems understanding: Starting with Qatar does NOT mean ending it with Qatar

>> No.11269007

>>11268990
>China splits themselves into China 1 and China 2
>No actual reduction in industrial output or CO_2 emissions
>Because China is now made up of smaller countries, they are no longer the biggest polluter and we've made appreciable progress toward stopping climate change
This is what racists ACTUALLY want you to believe.

>> No.11269008

>>11268993
So fixing large per capita emissions will not be enough and we'll have to turn to China to actually solve the problem ?
My point exactly you dishonest fuck.

>> No.11269018

>>11269007
>the world is already split into countries
>let's get the white-majority countries to diminish our greenhouse gas production
>and pretend the rest of humanity doesn't matter
You're the only racist here.

>> No.11269021

>>11269018
Let's get the biggest greenhouse gas emitters per capita to reduce their emissions and go from there. If white people are genetically predisposed to destroying the environment, that's coincidental.

>> No.11269098

>>11268991
that's not what i meant, i'm saying that if you wanna pollute as much as i do you should at least produce as much as i do

>> No.11269508
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>>11269098
China produces $2.17 of their GDP for each kg of CO2 they emit.
The US produces $3.33 of their GDP for each kg of CO2 they emit.

No matter if you measure CO2 per capita, or CO2 compared to GDP, the US is better. I'm sorry Chang.

>> No.11269523

>>11269508
grils like this would still be cute without the clown face and attention whoring mannerisms. personality disorders are as ugly as tragic congenital illnesses desu

>> No.11269527

>>11269508
Straight GDP ain't really the perfect measure of worth/production, for example, breaking things increases GDP because you've gotta buy/make a replacement even though that's just -1 + 1 = 0 and not an actual net benefit.
Besides that, $2 or $3 per kg of CO2 is absolute garbage and if you ask me such polluters ought to get lined up against a wall and shot.

>> No.11269537

>>11268677
>I can continue to do nothing towards climate change as long as I have a scapegoat

>> No.11269549
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>>11269527
It's not a perfect measurement, but it's a pretty good one. Find a better one, if you want. Actually the numbers I quoted were just CO2 emissions from fossil fuels, rather than total CO2 emissions. Here are more accurate statistics from 2017:

China: 7700 kg of CO2/capita
US: 15700 kg of CO2/capita
EU: 6944 kg of CO2/capita

China: $8827 per capita
US: $59532 per capita
EU: $34001 per capita

China: $1.15 per kg of CO2
US: $3.79 per kg of CO2
EU: $4.90 per kg of CO2

It would be interesting to see the results but for all GHG rather than just CO2, but I can only find European statistics for this.

>> No.11269562
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11269562

>>11268677

remainder Trump unironically does more to lower greenhouse gas emission through his trade war against china than Greta Thunberg

>> No.11269572

>>11268677
my friend i am assure you china man work hard every day. reduce co2 gas ONLY clean coal factory economic childs labor college money. warm water vegetable study differential equation factory dorm. environmentalist crazy ssri womans autism i am NOT ALLOW

>> No.11269601

>>11268677
The only way to solve china's emissions is to first solve the endless greed and consumption of the west. China exists for the sole purpose of feeding this endless lust for material things.

>> No.11269607

>>11269562
While impoverishing American consumers is actually a good thing. Could you provide facts to back this up? Have any chinese factories closed and returned to the west as a result of the trade war? Has the trade war actually had a meaningful effect on reducing demand and production of goods?

>> No.11269641

>>11269607

yes

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/manufacturing-employment-in-the-us-is-at-the-same-level-of-69-years-ago-2019-01-04

>> No.11269644

>>11268925
>Per ca
per capita is bullshit because it excuses slave owners who emit huge amounts but whose slaves emit hardly any.

>> No.11269648

>>11268889
LOL

Reminder that developers are the root cause of all of this and if they are not stopped we are doomed

>> No.11269652

>>11268925

Anon, If I have two cars and you have none, we both have a car. There are contexts in which per capita makes sense but in terms of this specific distribution... no.

>> No.11269656

>>11269537
if we nuked china we'd have literally solved the problem without any downsides

>> No.11269657

>>11269601
no need to stop the greed
just redirect the greed, tax chinese goods

>> No.11269663

>>11269549
Makes me hate chinks even more desu
Not only are they polluting out the ass but they're also only getting a dollar for a kilo of CO2

>> No.11269664

>>11269657
Fucking this. People seem to forget that the chinese are the most subhuman race on the planet. The world would be better off without the majority of the Orient.

>> No.11269668

>>11269664
Meant for >>11269656
Kill chinks

>> No.11269669

>>11269657
agreed. do not give power (money) to psychotics

do not ever deal with them. it can only lead to more pain in the long run.

>> No.11269674

>>11269664
>The world would be better off without the majority of the Orient.
And of the South.