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Academia is a fucking meme.

I am doing chemical research in a top UK university and I literally work 60 hours a week, 30 of which standing up in a lab, breathing in cancer itself. I don't even care about the status and prestige anymore.

Don't fall down this rabbit hole lads. Get a gf, exercise, drive around comfy med villages to drink wine and eat cheese.

>> No.11197197

What is the disability system like there? You can claim you got a "lung injury" from this work. The brainlet bureaucrats processing it wouldn't know. COPD for instance is very easy to uhhhh, suddenly have. A few instances of paper work, and I'm sure you can get 1000 pounds a month at least. In the US, you can get between $800 and almost $3000 a month depending on what your income was for the past 5 years before you file.

>> No.11197205

>>11197197
>What is the disability system like there?
not even bothered to check
>You can claim you got a "lung injury" from this work
Then your boss and research group hates you for setting their research back and makes your life even more unbearable
>The brainlet bureaucrats processing it wouldn't know
Valid point

>> No.11197213

>>11197186
I have been warning you fuckers for MONTHS now. Take the /FINANCEPILL/ and be saved from all of your sins. Refuse and burn in tenure hell.

>> No.11197215

What's the most interesting chemical you've come across?

>> No.11197216

>>11197213
Do not fall for this meme. I did. You can't make it without connections, especially if you come from an impoverished background.

>> No.11197219

>>11197213
Finance sounds just as shit or even worse.
Imagine working with numbers every day for years.
At least science can be remotely interesting sometimes

>> No.11197220

>>11197186
bye bye wagie, at least you tried.

>> No.11197225

>>11197219
the black pill is that life just isn't that fulfilling. and everything you think you like is just social influences that really just distract you and still make you miserable.

>> No.11197226

>>11197215
>interesting
At this stage, everything a white fucking powder.
Before I fell into the rabbit hole, I liked playing with bismuth and making pretty crystals which I'd put on wooden stands for gifts.

Too lazy to attach pic tho

>> No.11197233

>>11197220
There is no point in a wage if you are unhappy.
Money is the means to an end, not the end. The end is a happy, fulfilled life.

Turn away from this toxic mindset, before it's too late.

>> No.11197236

>>11197216
Okay, I'm not going to lie yes I did have some slight connections but it's not that hard. I'm not even wealthy, but one of my professors worked at Chase so after I excelled in his class it was just a little socializing with him. Odds are that if you are at a university right now then someone you know works or has worked in finance and could give you infinite connections. You are just not trying hard enough.

>>11197219
>Imagine working with numbers every day for years.
You have no imagination. Those numbers are not arbitrary. Those numbers represent what will happen in the real world. Those mortgages represent who will have a house and who won't. Those foreign bonds represent which countries will have booming economies and which won't. Those stocks represent which people will keep their jobs.

>> No.11197246

>>11197233
Oh I agree. I'm calling OP a wagie because he's going to drop out and work a meaningless job. I'm super fulfilled because I do research in what I like, even though I'll be poor. Seems like OP wants prestige and fame for no work and lots of money.

>> No.11197250

>>11197236
A truly hope it is not as boring as it seems. Maybe high school accounting killed any love I could possibly develop for finance.
In any case, it too late now.
There is no escape from chemistry anymore.

>> No.11197256

>>11197226
You really don't sound like someone who has done chemical research in any capacity past undergrad level by this answer.

>> No.11197260

>>11197246
>I'm super fulfilled because I do research in what I like
This is the biggest coping mechanism I encountered at my institution. People from wonderful places like Greece, Sicily and Spain, who spent their best (10+) years studying in the cold, grey land that is the UK, constantly parrot: "but i am passionate, i love my research".
And after they smoke, they go to their 600 pound/month apartment with family waiting to greet them.

>> No.11197266

>>11197260
with no family*

>>11197256
sometimes beauty is found in simplicity, faggot.
I really tried to find something interesting to tell you about, but nothing came to mind. I work in enantioselective chemistry, its not like I do cool natural products or something worth talking to you about.

>> No.11197346

>>11197260
how is it cope if it's true? Just because you cannot imagine it to be true does not mean it is not. That kind of simplicity is all I need in life. What do you strive for? money? the ability to consume products and services? this does not appeal to me at all... Relationships with intelligent people I respect and work that interests me on an intrinsic level is all I need in life. That and good food, but I'm a good cook so hey, I provide that for myself.
It really is that simple. At least for myself. Took me a while to realize it though.

>> No.11197420

>>11197226
>Before I fell into the rabbit hole, I liked playing with bismuth and making pretty crystals which I'd put on wooden stands for gifts.
make an etzy account and sell chemistry knick-knacks to chem undergrads and middle-aged crystal moms. Do it under a pseudonym if you think its below your station in life

>> No.11197469

>>11197236
I'm a fund analyst and the client I work for is one of the largest PE firms in the world. How do I break into front office?

>> No.11197875

>>11197266
>I work in enantioselective chemistry,
Oh god, I'm so sorry

>> No.11198158

>>11197186
and you guys keep making fun of engineers lol

>> No.11198173

>>11197346
Based

>> No.11198268

>>11197420
will look into it, thx anon
>>11197875
I am too.

>> No.11198270
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11198270

>>11197186
The university intellectuals also play an important role in carrying out the System's trick. Though they like to fancy themselves independent thinkers, the intellectuals are (allowing for individual exceptions) the most oversocialized, the most conformist, the tamest and most domesticated, the most pampered, dependent, and spineless group in America today. As a result, their impulse to rebel is particularly strong. But, because they are incapable of independent thought, real rebellion is impossible for them. Consequently they are suckers for the System's trick, which allows them to irritate people and enjoy the illusion of rebelling without ever having to challenge the System's basic values.

Because they are the teachers of young people, the university intellectuals are in a position to help the System play its trick on the young, which they do by steering young people's rebellious impulses toward the standard, stereotyped targets: racism, colonialism, women's issues, etc. Young people who are not college students learn through the media, or through personal contact, of the "social justice" issues for which students rebel, and they imitate the students. Thus a youth culture develops in which there is a stereotyped mode of rebellion that spreads through imitation of peers—just as hairstyles, clothing styles, and other fads spread through imitation.

>> No.11198712

>>11198270
how is this relevant to OP's statement?

>> No.11198956

>>11197186

This is why I wanna do an MD and not a PhD. Academia is a fucking meme indeed. Fuck academia.

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11198997

I like physics, I studied physics, I now work in a job where I do math and physics for some tech company, and in my free time I do the thing I love - physics.

Why is that so hard for some people to achieve? Study what you enjoy and then do it. Don't take a job for money you actually don't need anyway.

>>11197186
If you hate your life so much, take yourself by the balls and quit and start something else. stop desperately to search for ways of making your life worse and worse, then you can just stop EASILY now with what you're curringly doing and live the fucking hipster life you describe.

>> No.11199286

>>11197236
Ok, I'm not going to lie. Yes, I did have some slight connections but it's not that hard. My parent's weren't even earning 500k/y but one of my fathers friends worked at goldman and sachs etc etc

>> No.11199319

>>11197186
Just use mask if you feel like it's hazard for your health then? Are you dumb?
Wow, you made great discovery that doing something that's actually has results requires quite amount of mundane work. GZ mate, maybe next time you will discover that it's the case in most jobs at the market.

>> No.11199565

>>11199319
>Are you dumb?
Name a filter with a mesh finer than the size of chloroform molecule, retard
>inb4 active carbon
Literal fucking meme

>> No.11199591

>>11199286
get off my board kike

>> No.11199684

>>11197186
>get a gf
I FUCKING WISH

>> No.11200142

How much does Academia pay if you work for a university?

>> No.11201323

>>11200142
not enough

>> No.11202648

>>11201323
How much? You can post in a bracket of upper and lower if youre worried about disclosing your salary

>> No.11202809

>>11202648
2400 to 3300 GBP/month

>> No.11203464

>>11197186
Could you break into the petroleum industry?