/phd/ general

[Anonymous No.11187573]

How's your research going anon?

[Anonymous No.11187586]

>>11187573
Nobody on this board is smart enough to actually do science or math. They just talk about it when they get their 30 minutes a day to use the computers in the asylum.

[Anonymous No.11187590]

>>11187573
Nobody on this board is smart enough to actually do science or math. They just talk about it when they get their 30 minutes a day to use the computers in the asylum.

[Anonymous No.11187592]

>>11187590
>>/sci/thread/10662236

the thread did okay last time

[Anonymous No.11187594]

>>11187590
projecting much?

[Anonymous No.11187603]

>>11187594
desu yes.. very much so. out of time in 5 minutes, but I'll probably talk about this in group later....
I'm hoping to be able to go to university for biology whenever I do get out of here =/

[Anonymous No.11187606]

>>11187590
lel, I mostly lurk but I have a PhD in neuroscience, 200+ citations, and my i-10 index and h-index are 7

[Anonymous No.11187629]

tfw i wasnt accepted to a phd programme

[Anonymous No.11187630]

>>11187629
>programme
>mme
a UK program? Never gonna make it anyways

[Anonymous No.11187633]

>>11187630
Not him, but I am яussian and I use UK spelling for everything.

[Anonymous No.11187635]

Well, I'm currently a high school physics teacher as the last requirement to get my PhD. But I'm also taking this opportunity to do first hand research on the average American teenager. And the only thing my research has concluded thus far is that they're all fucking morons.

[Anonymous No.11187636]

>>11187633
I'm American ("Americanyets" for you), but I've studied enough European languages that I habitually write in UK English nowadays.

[Anonymous No.11187638]

>3rd year, engineer
>topic: fluid mechanics
>have to finish next year
>no financial support for needed and last experiments
>prof: "you can start writing your thesis"
>I dont feel like I have done anything important and all of it is garbage
>he says its enough for magna cum laude
>this work will be a useless piece of shit
>what am I even doing here ..

[Anonymous No.11187663]

>>11187638
You might have impostor syndrome.

[Anonymous No.11187676]

I am finally crawling out of the deep pit of burnout and depression that has had me trapped for years now. My funding is long gone but my supervisor still believes in me, my thesis is nearly finished. My mental health is finally good enough for me to give it a final shot. If my brain holds out on me I can finish in a few months.

[Anonymous No.11187902]

>>11187635
Yes this website is the perfect microcosm for how stupid the Jews have successfully dumbed down the western world

[Anonymous No.11187957]

>>11187573
Im finishing my EE undergrad.
Im going to be doing a masters on control systems and signal analysis.
Should I do a phd?
Ive always been very academical in the sense that gaining deeper and deeper understanding of what I know has always interested me more than working at industry.

[Anonymous No.11187964]

>>11187663
the title feels not to be deserved since my contribution to the knowledge is rather small and irrelevant.

>>11187635
During your high school times your teacher surely thought different ...

>>11187902
Great quote by someone, whos job was to create and control an army of fanatics and retards; also back to /pol/.

[Anonymous No.11187965]

>>11187638
>>11187638
You might have to think pragmatically OP.

Just finish pHd, Leave amazing things for later (if you plan postdoc, that is).

[Anonymous No.11188040]

>>11187957
>signal analysis
Dude, just go into a PhD program straight away specializing in signal analysis, then apply for one of those quantitative trading firms. You'll be making millions by the age of 30.

[Anonymous No.11188490]

>>11187964
>my contribution to the knowledge is rather small and irrelevant.
So is everyone's contributions these days -- pretty much every interesting thing has been already done and not by one person but by hundreds of them. If you have something new to say, even if it might be a small nick in the massive corpus of knowledge that is mechanics then surely it's worth writing down. You're being too humble. Consider that most people can't even understand the basics of your field.

[Anonymous No.11188535]

>>11187606
is that normal in neuroscience? citation counts vary a lot in between fields

[Anonymous No.11189009]

>>11188040
How do I go into a phd program straight away if phd programs require you to have a masters?

[Anonymous No.11189011]

>>11187573
FUCK ME NOTHING'S WORKING WHY THE FUCK ARE NONE OF THEM WORKING AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.11189471]

>>11187573
Pretty good Im about to get my masters in music education

[Anonymous No.11189501]

>>11189009
That's not always the case, but you do need some merit to be accepted straight away, i.e. have incredible references and networking as an undergraduate.

[Anonymous No.11189503]

>>11187573
Why learn math and science when you're going to die one day anyway and likely won't actually contribute anything new or useful for future generations? Waste of time and energy. We should all mass suicide.

[Anonymous No.11189696]

>>11189503
why do anything?

[Anonymous No.11189714]

>>11189503
Because they're fun.

[Anonymous No.11189721]

>>11189696
Exactly. That's why I don't do shit.

[Anonymous No.11189735]

I'm a senior in undergrad CS.... 4.0 gpa
i go to a state school in california

i know with my grades i should go enroll in a master's program, i can probably get into a pretty decent one

but i hate school so much and desperately want to be done. i'm poor as fuck and want to finally enter the phase of my life where i have financial freedom. instead of paying the college for me to do 40-50 hours of work a week.

Ideally i want to work in something that relates to research..... what should I do? should i just get my BS and fuck off into the working world? or should i just suck it up and go to more school...

[Anonymous No.11189748]

The DOE decided they're not going to be funding any new projects on my grand, and I'm pretty sure this means I'm not going to get my RA position next semester. My advisor is doubtful he'll be able to secure me a TA position in time. I have a FAFSA I filled out back in March. If I walk into a financial aid office on Monday, do you think they'll be able to get me a student loan for next semester? Or is December too late and I'm basically totally fucked?

[Anonymous No.11189785]

Why do so many PhD students hate doing research?
I met so many people who do not like reading papers, don't listening to talks even outside the immediate subfield of their project topic, never bother to read up papers from current conferences to see whether they can connect their work to new topics and complain that they cannot ask others for solutions for their problem. Every paper rejection or failure leads to a nervous breakdown. Why even bothering with staying in a phd for years if you dislike the main activity?
Or is it a CS thing?

[Anonymous No.11189787]

>>11187573
I just signed up for the qual in January.

[Anonymous No.11189795]

>>11189785
a lot of them are in the program because they don't want to find a job. This is the case with alot of Chinese students I've met over the years. They generally excel academically and don't do so well in a proper working environment so they enrol in Masters/PhD programs but they're not thrilled about research.

[Anonymous No.11189797]

>>11189787

Ha! Don't worry, man. Quals are tough, but chances are you'll pass as long as you give it your best.

[Anonymous No.11189808]

>>11188535
It's a little above average for someone at my career stage but not unheard of.

[Anonymous No.11190542]

>>11189795
But why do they stay after realizing that they don't so do well in a research environment either? Fucking nerds. Also I have met exactly two chinks in my field and both were based (and from Taiwan).

[Anonymous No.11190554]

>>11189787
what equations are those that the tard frog is thinking about?

[Anonymous No.11190560]

>>11189501
What do you mean by references?

My gpa aint the best but I've got a math specialization, ive had a job in industry for a year and can get about 10 different profs and my bosses to write customized recommendation letters praising me, including the signal analysis prof, is that enough?

[Anonymous No.11190846]

I am a first year chemistry PhD student focusing on biophysical chemistry. The first-semester has been very difficult for me and I have been struggling to adapt to the changed pace/focus compared to my undergraduate program and life in the big city. I was worried about failing statistical mechanics but have come through to the B- range which I am ecstatic and proud of myself for. I have submitted my advisor selection form and am now waiting to hear where I will be placed.

I am disappointed in myself for having lost most of my focus/work ethic in my classes that allowed me to be in the program I am in. I have become lazy in my classwork but truly enjoy my opportunities to search the literature and do write-ups for rotation projects so, hopefully, this indicates that I am pursuing a fitting career path for myself.

[Anonymous No.11190850]

You can read about the culmination of my research here:

https://postsyntheticsocietalproject.wordpress.com/2018/08/12/yoko-taro-is-a-dragon-from-the-future/

[Anonymous No.11190864]

>>11189503
I am motivated by the ability to learn and add to the detail in which I can 'imagine' objects relating to chemistry in my head and how they move/interact with things around them. It doesn't matter to me if I make any contribution to the greater world as long as I can obtain a job in academia to support myself and a family. I also am motivated by learning enough to comprehend what other experts who are making leaps-and-bounds in a field are doing and its relevance.

[Anonymous No.11191082]

>>11189785
Most papers feel useless, most talks feel useless. In general a PhD honestly feels useless. My advisor tells me my expectations were too high though.

[Anonymous No.11191088]

>>11187573
>How's your research going anon?
my research is on hiatus while i do some pointless curricular writing for my committee

[Anonymous No.11191153]

>>11187573
not bad anon.
working on 2 papers and a patent. grad studies is going real nice. it's a lot better than undergrad.

i think grad school gets a lot of shit because of people that go into a research based thesis with a professor that hates their life and a project that they dont care about.

I've known a few grad students and now im pretty sure everyone who endlessly complained just shouldnt have been in that program.

[Anonymous No.11191396]

>>11191153
>I've known a few grad students and now im pretty sure everyone who endlessly complained just shouldnt have been in that program.
and then those people were probably just told they have imposter syndrome. what's would a venn diagram of people with imposter syndrome and actual dumbos look like

[Anonymous No.11191425]

Here's a tip for you frends. Don't forget the Ph in PhD. There's been a trend since mid 20th century starting with figures like Feynman and people like Dawkins and other pop scientists to discard philosophy. This was not the case for Einstein and prior scientists. Philosophy of science is one of the most important things to learn during PhD and philosophy in general is important to learn for life. Especially since most academics are killing for reputable journals, nobels, ego, respect, citations, etc. Don't get drawn into their bullshit rat race and live a good life anons.

[El Arcón No.11191660]

breddy gud

[Anonymous No.11191719]

>>11187902
Brony tier as shit

[Anonymous No.11191829]

>>11191425

>Don't get drawn into their bullshit rat race
My general philosophy is to try and focus on quality over quantity, and to not give myself more work than I need to. I have been told by both professors and some folks in industry that quality matters more than producing tons of papers. My advisor seems to disagree with this somewhat, noting that it would be difficult to get hired at the university I am studying at if I did not have maybe 10 or so papers under my belt.

I'd like to not get dragged into the rat race. But I'd also like to make sure I'm hired, and that I get tenure if it's at a university.

[Anonymous No.11191847]

i was about to say "postdoc here AMA" but then i saw "El Arcón" in the name field of a recent post, so, pass

[Anonymous No.11191971]

>>11189735
Any research position in CS is going to require an MS at least.

[Anonymous No.11191980]

>>11189735
If you're smart it's likely nobody will hire you for CS, they just want idiot code monkeys who know their place

[Anonymous No.11192366]

has anyone missed a deadline for departmental requirements? how much of a bitch would i be if i asked for an extension?

[Anonymous No.11192501]

>>11187590

[Anonymous No.11192515]

I got a PhD in ECE a couple years ago. Now I work in a government research lab. The pay is not ideal but it's pretty fucking great. I don't think I would leave this job any time soon.

[Anonymous No.11192638]

>>11187964
Your english is so bad that it brings me joy to see your counter to him was name-calling.

[Anonymous No.11192678]

>>11189735
I'm doing a CS masters right now at a state school. It is pretty fun, I'm enjoying it so far, but I'm only just now finishing my first semester of it. I'm really enjoying getting ready to do a thesis, and hopefully will come out of this with 2-3 papers under my belt + the thesis itself. Not sure if I'd want to do a PHD afterwards or not yet, guess it depends on how my published work goes.

[Anonymous No.11192682]

>go to #1 school in world
>MS student
>have opportunity to do PhD
>am a bit older, will be ~32 when I finish
>want big family and need to find a wife now
>constantly at odds with myself if I'm going to do the PhD or just take my masters and get some comfy SV job
>literally keeps me up at night
>don't think I'm smart or creative enough for the lab I'm interested in

[Anonymous No.11192711]

>>11192678
>Not sure if I'd want to do a PHD afterwards or not yet
protip: you wont do it

>>11192682
how would doing PhD stop you from finding wife? you'll probably have more free time as grad student than with full time job

[Anonymous No.11192717]

>>11192711
1. 45k/year income vs 120k/yr I could be getting in industry. Not just looking for a wife, but the best woman I can possibly get.

2. I don't intend to work in the area and don't think looking for a wife in a city I plan to leave is wise

3. dating grad students isn't sexy when you're late 20s and trying to form babby

[Anonymous No.11192720]

>>11187606
>my i-10 index and h-index are 7
Its like the e-penis of the academic world

[Anonymous No.11192722]

>>11192711
Why do you think I won't? This is a joint program Master+ PHD, so I can stop anytime I want after the first 2 years and have a masters under my belt. Why do you think I wouldn't do it?

[Anonymous No.11192777]

>>11192722
I spent 6 years in grad school working in a large (many students) research center. I can't tell you how many times I've heard from masters students that they are "thinking about" doing PhD. Every single one of them would leave with the masters. The people who stayed for PhD were always sure about it from the start.

[Anonymous No.11192798]

>>11192777
How does one get convinced about doing a PhD? It's not like it sells itself very well. One of the things that interested me about that route was that I'd be working on novel stuff, but I never saw how I was supposed to bring or propose anything creatively myself. The thought of outlining and defining some specific area of research and the certain methods I'll be using like I know for sure I want to spend years and yearson it scares the shit out of me

[Anonymous No.11192809]

>>11192798
>How does one get convinced about doing a PhD? It's not like it sells itself very well.
You don't get convinced. You either want it or not.

>One of the things that interested me about that route was that I'd be working on novel stuff, but I never saw how I was supposed to bring or propose anything creatively myself.
You don't yet see how you are supposed to do it because you don't know how to do research yet. The point of the PhD is to learn how to do research.

>The thought of outlining and defining some specific area of research and the certain methods I'll be using like I know for sure I want to spend years and yearson it scares the shit out of me
You will most likely be given the topic from your advisor based on what he has funding for. But yeah you will want to be very sure that you are up for the task because it's a long time commitment. But if you are up for the challenge then you will succeed; it's more about dedication than anything.

[Anonymous No.11192817]

>>11192809
>You don't get convinced. You either want it or not.
That's a pretty simplistic way of thinking. People were obviously convinced at one point that they wanted to do a PhD. Maybe I missed a conversation with somebody who can really sell the merits of taking up such a journey. I guarantee there are a good amount of people who did a PhD for no reason other than wanting better management prospects in some major company or organization later down the road, so little tidbits of information like that could potentially be useful to somebody who isn't just innately drawn to spending his early 30s marking labs to make ends meet

>>11192809
I had to propose research in my undergrad, which was mostly bullshit, so that I could even get into MIT for a MS. Now here I have to propose mini research projects with my prospective PI that are pretty much entirely up to me. I don't know how I'm supposed to know what to explore and what methods to use and why the fuck it would be interesting at all.

[Anonymous No.11192826]

>>11192817
>People were obviously convinced at one point that they wanted to do a PhD.
No they weren't. I already told you this. You either want it or you don't. Sounds like you don't, which is fine.
>Maybe I missed a conversation with somebody who can really sell the merits of taking up such a journey.
I've seen these conversations a hundred times. The person never does it. If they need to be "convinced" then they don't want it.
>.I guarantee there are a good amount of people who did a PhD for no reason other than wanting better management prospects in some major company or organization later down the road,
I doubt it because that's a really dumb reason to do a PhD.
>marking labs to make ends meet
You mean being a TA? Get a fellowship nigga. Work for a professor who has funding nigga.

[Anonymous No.11192828]

>>11192817
Moreover, this is more of a commentary on the specificity of technical research papers, and in general, the scope of most graduate student work (if they are relatively focused in one area). I read a new paper on a specific method applied in an algorithm that reduces it's computational complexity with performance guarantees, sure that's cool and will be useful when and if I need to implement it, yet you look at the authors and their work and you see they've spent 3-4 years to slightly improve some nuanced algorithm's performance in very particular situations. That just seems like such a dreadful and tireless struggle to achieve something fairly insignificant and most entirely useless at the current time.

I can see how I would love to do research in some sort of humanities field as you have fairly open ended questions and freedoms not common of some of the more technical areas of academia.

[Anonymous No.11192830]

>>11192817
>I don't know how I'm supposed to know what to explore and what methods to use and why the fuck it would be interesting at all.
Like I said, doing a PhD will teach you how to go about doing research. Once you know how to do it, and you know the current state of your field (latest advances, etc), it's pretty easy to come up with new projects and ideas. I could shit out 10 of them right now in my field. The trouble is finding the time to execute all the ideas.

[Anonymous No.11192834]

>>11192828
>yet you look at the authors and their work and you see they've spent 3-4 years to slightly improve some nuanced algorithm's performance in very particular situations. That just seems like such a dreadful and tireless struggle to achieve something fairly insignificant and most entirely useless at the current time.
Reading this, you clearly aren't cut out for research. Don't do the PhD. I don't mean that as an insult but as sincere advice.

[Anonymous No.11192835]

>>11192834
>Reading this, you clearly aren't cut out for research.
I've got 2 first author papers into IROS, 2nd author in IEEE and I'm not even a PhD student, suck my fat cock and get off your high horse nigger

[Anonymous No.11192841]

>>11192835
Wow you are so sensitive. I wasn't even trying to trigger you and here you are seething. Anyway, like I said there is nothing wrong with not doing the PhD and not going into research. I never said you couldn't do it, but with your attitude and "commentary" written above you clearly aren't suited to doing it as a career. And please don't try to brag about having a couple conference papers lol

[Anonymous No.11192850]

>>11192841
I would never consider academia as a career, that is true. I see myself more as chief research scientist on some major project rather than a professor. Also for future reference, consider not everyone is as useless of a peasant as you are and have 140k (+ ~100k signing bonus) offers from SVniggers doing really interesting shit hanging over their head. Ever driven a Porsche 911? How about having sex at all? I'm 26 fucking years old I need to think about things seriously before I commit 4 years and ~$400,000 in losses to them, fucko.

[Anonymous No.11192859]

>>11192850
>I would never consider academia as a career, that is true. I see myself more as chief research scientist on some major project rather than a professor.
Most PhDs in STEM don't go into academia. You can also have a research career with an MS but positions like Chief Scientist will probably require a PhD.
>Also for future reference, consider not everyone is as useless of a peasant as you are and have 140k (+ ~100k signing bonus) offers from SVniggers doing really interesting shit hanging over their head.
Not really sure what you're trying to say here. You don't know what I do. And 140k in SV is dogshit.
>Ever driven a Porsche 911? How about having sex at all? I'm 26 fucking years old I need to think about things seriously before I commit 4 years and ~$400,000 in losses to them, fucko.
Yeah you do need to consider these things. It sounds like you'd be happier leaving with MS and getting a higher paying job now rather than staying for PhD. I tried to tell you this.

[Anonymous No.11192861]

>>11192850
As for the sex part, I'm not sure where you're going with this. My sex life was at its peak during grad school. Plenty of free time, flexible schedule, living in area with constant influx of young girls.

[Anonymous No.11192869]

>>11192861
>hahaha he's 31 and he's still in school?
>LMAO swipe left stacy you need an actual man

[Anonymous No.11192870]

>>11192869
Well I was like 23-28 during grad school and that wasn't a problem at all. This dude is older but I still don't think it would be any issue. If this stops you from getting laid you just suck at getting laid.

[Anonymous No.11192875]

>>11192870
It's not about getting laid, it's about the type of women that want to either fuck or have a relationship with you if you don't have financial security and stability by that age in your life.

[Anonymous No.11192887]

>>11191396
Impostor*

[Anonymous No.11192970]

>>11192638
He's not wrong though
Go back already

[Anonymous No.11193313]

>want to get a masters
>no academic references (graduated 5 years ago)
What do? Take some classes at a local uni and hope a prof likes me?

[Anonymous No.11193323]

>>11193313
work experience and classes, yes

[Anonymous No.11193498]

Does therapy and medications really help with depression and burnout? I am considering going to my university's counseling center, but I just can't even imagine this helping me.

[Anonymous No.11193677]

>>11193498
Most people only have short-term depressions, therapy can help to get you out faster. Everybody on pills is crazy, only take them if you cannot avoid.

[Anonymous No.11193707]

>It's an "undergrad still hasn't understood his final project topic after three months" episode
>again

[Anonymous No.11193720]

>>11187606
prove it faggot lmao

[Anonymous No.11193726]

>>11193720
This. Post dick on PhD certificate.

[Anonymous No.11193736]

>>11193498
Only up to a point, depending on how deep your depression is. It can potentially treat you out of it entirely, or it can at best manage it better and keep it from getting worse.

[Anonymous No.11193756]

>>11193498
depression isnt real. start lifting and get laid fucking nerd

[Anonymous No.11193786]

>>11189735
Do a masters, get a good scholarship. Get into google/Facebook research, make 300k. Do PhD while there

[Anonymous No.11193808]

>>11187573
i want to marry depressed submissive academycuck momiji.

[Anonymous No.11193903]

Welp. I have managed to avoid being unable to take classes next semester. Although my advisor now has no fucking research funding and no TA money, as it turns out, I had an offer for around 18k in student loans that had somehow not managed to come in the form of an award letter for me to decline.

Nearly doubling the amount of student debt I have for one semester is going to suck, but I'm pretty sure if I pass my prelims, the school is obligated to offer me 5 semesters of free tuition. Hopefully it won't take that long to write a dissertation.

[Anonymous No.11193916]

>>11193903
>paying for your phd
they're telling you to go and stay go

[Anonymous No.11193920]

>>11193916

Everyone else with my advisor is suffering the same problem. I was originally working on a grant supported by the Department of Energy, and then they just decided, "we're not funding any new projects." This being for a grant that was supporting professors across many different universities.

Fuck Rick Perry.

[Anonymous No.11194215]

>>11187638
Yes that's science
99.9% research goes nowhere
Congrats

[Anonymous No.11194230]

>>11193916
Although I agree with you about paying yourself for PhDs grunt money drying out is not uncommon.

[Anonymous No.11194349]

>>11192717
>45k/year income
Holy crap do PhD programs pay so much in the US?

[Anonymous No.11194384]

>>11192875
A guy who is getting STEM PhD is seen as pretty desirable from that point of view.

>>11193756
this is bad advice but also great advice

[Anonymous No.11194388]

>>11193903
Don't pay for your fucking PhD nigger, find an adviser that doesn't suck balls. Get a fellowship

[Anonymous No.11194390]

>>11193903
>>11194230
So what piss poor major/department are you in? Some type of natural science I'm sure.

[Anonymous No.11194421]

>>11194349
he probably means postdoctoral fellowship income

[Anonymous No.11194462]

>>11194390
Computer Science.

>>11194388
My focus is in Cybersecurity. He's the only cybersecurity guy left in the university. In any case, this should only be for one semester. After this, I become a PhD candidate (so the university has to pay my tuition), and two of his other students will be doing their defenses, so there'll be funds freed up.

It's a shitty situation, but it's the best available at the current time.

[Anonymous No.11194476]

>>11194462
>Computer Science
>no funding
damn thats fucked

[Anonymous No.11194477]

>>11194462
Holy shit man that's not what I was expecting you to say. Cybersecurity is fucking flush with cash, every CIA nigger and their brother is throwing money into it. Fuck man, you should go to a better school for the PhD

[Anonymous No.11194492]

>>11194462
So are you in latin america or eastern europe?

[Anonymous No.11194523]

>>11194349
>>11194421
that's on the higher end for a grad stipend, but definitely not unheard of

[Anonymous No.11194545]

>>11194476

Why yes, there is lots of cash. Problem is timing. My advisor has informed me that getting these grant applications approved can take months. And considering the DOE dropped the ball on us in the middle of the semester... I basically was left with no options for funding for Spring semester.

I swear though, we better get something from DARPA or the Office of Naval Research or something by next Fall, or I'm going to have an aneurysm.

[Anonymous No.11194555]

>>11194545
Go to a better school for the fucking PhD man. You shouldn't even be having to worry about this shit. There are so many labs that are fucking flush with DoD cash

[Anonymous No.11194559]

>>11194523
>but definitely not unheard of
yeah it's pretty much unheard of outside of the top 20 grad schools in the world

[Anonymous No.11194564]

>>11194555

Kind of hard to just go switching schools halfway through the year, and when you're one semester away from candidacy.

[Anonymous No.11194573]

>>11194564
Not really if you have any connections with actual decent professors with funding. They'll take you on with short notice and the "deadlines" won't even apply if you have a professor that wants you in. If you don't know any talk to your DoD friends and they'll put you in touch with one.

[Anonymous No.11194640]

>>11194492

Pacific Northwest.

[Anonymous No.11194645]

>>11194559
I promise you it's unheard of in Oxford/Cambridge. Maybe in the US

[Anonymous No.11194655]

>>11194645
britain is a dystopian police state though

[Anonymous No.11194681]

>>11194655
>believing EU and US anti-UK propaganda
It's once again Britan against the world baby

[Anonymous No.11194693]

>>11194681
Nice post, I hope it increased your Social Credit rating and you don't have to go to the gulags now.

[Anonymous No.11194815]

>>11194681
do you have a license to post here?

[Anonymous No.11194850]

>>11194388

just because someone has a bit of research money doesn't mean they're worth a damn. i worked with some chink bastard because he gave me an assistantship. half a decade later, i pray to god every day that he chokes on his lunch.

go with someone you actually like, even if it means paying more money.

[Anonymous No.11194889]

>>11194850
reality check: if you can't get a position where they pay you money AND you work with good quality people you really should just give up

[jesus the devil No.11194892]

>>11194444

nice math

[Anonymous No.11194894]

>>11194889

i'm going to off myself if i don't get my phd so i really have nothing to lose by being persistent.

[Anonymous No.11194908]

>>11194894
you're going to end up the next Tooker (/sci/'s resident homeless rambling schizo math PhD)

[Anonymous No.11194914]

>>11194850
i was going to say this >>11194889
but not be quite as negative. seriously you should be able to find somebody who doesn't suck if you don't suck. and obviously never work with chinks. ABCs are fine though.

[Anonymous No.11194918]

>>11194908

i'm not schizophrenic, my mind is clear. but i have no desire to continue living when ingrates and idiots have phds and i do not.

if opportunity and fortune never shine on me, then i'll die without regret.

[Anonymous No.11194922]

>>11194908
>Tooker

and that's an awfully sad story if it's true. someone should get the man some help.

[Anonymous No.11194928]

>>11194914
chinks are good lab grunts, i'd even go so far as to say that they're some of the best lab grunts
unfortunately the majority of them lack foresight and creativity and are absolute shit in any position of power
work with chinks, but never for them

[Anonymous No.11194930]

>>11194918
you've already failed with this kind of mentality
there's nothing special or noteworthy about having a PhD
if getting a PhD is your end goal seriously get out of academia now
PhD should just be a way of getting education paid for so you can research things you are interested in

[Anonymous No.11194936]

>>11194930
>so you can research things you are interested in

that's what i'm trying to do. if i'm to have any hope of doing that professionally, i need a phd.

[Anonymous No.11194941]

>>11194936
getting into a good research programme isn't about what you know, it's about who you know
you gotta network more bro

[Anonymous No.11194949]

>>11194908
>>11194922
i'm on /sci/ all the time and never heard of this. quick rundown

>>11194928
in my line of work, working with chinks is totally out of the question in most cases

[Anonymous No.11194954]

>>11194930
>>11194936
>>11194941
the dude is giving you good advice. do some networking and find a good adviser. fuck you can even just look them up and write them a cold email if you have to. oh and you can still have a research career with only a masters. I work along plenty of masters. They usually wont get PI or Chieft Scientist type positions but that's still a sweet job and they can go back for it later. Maybe that's what you should do until you find a better advisor. I'm sure you can get a job in a DoD lab with only a masters no problem,

[Anonymous No.11194955]

>>11194949
>i'm on /sci/ all the time and never heard of this. quick rundown
the dude is like 70% of the posts on this board how do you not know who he is
tl;dr he got a maths PhD and then schizophrenia kicked in and he became a homeless schizo shitposter

[Anonymous No.11194958]

>>11194955
I don't think he actually completed his PhD. A master's at most, he then worked a real job for a while iirc

[Anonymous No.11194960]

>>11194958
oh yeah you're right he was only a PhD student in his first year or something before the timesand anal rape implant time machines teleported him into our universe :^)

[Anonymous No.11194969]

>>11194955
>>11194958
>>11194960
how do you know? is he a name fag or something? i see plenty of schizo posts but never heard any of this shit

[Anonymous No.11194972]

>>11194969
He's the guy who keeps posting about the neighborhood of infinity and other schizo posts.

[Anonymous No.11194974]

>>11194972
did somebody doxx him or something?

[Anonymous No.11194976]

>>11194969
The new jannies delete posts too often. There was a thread about him 4-5 months ago.

[Anonymous No.11194983]

>>11194974
He used to email researchers with his schizoid papers in real life.

[Anonymous No.11195255]

>>11187573
Research says we’re fucked by machine learning, climate change, and fascist dictatorship

[Anonymous No.11195310]

>>11195255

It's mostly the machine learning that's gonna fuck us. Man-made climate change is keeping us from going into an ice age right now, and fascist dictators are vulnerable to bullets.

[Anonymous No.11195401]

>>11189503
Why not become a genetic engineer and dedicate yourself to finding immortality/curing sickness?

[Anonymous No.11195451]

>>11194974
>>11194983
He trolls academic subreddits as well posting his shitty vixra papers all over the place. I hope the dude finds some help, but if he hasn't at this point, I doubt he will ever.

[Anonymous No.11195503]

Undergrad math student in some third world shithole here. Doing a PhD seems quite fun. I read here that I should be networking a lot, but I want to know how I am supposed to do it. I somewhat autistic/anti-social and I don't imagine living in a third world country is helping my chances of getting into a good PhD programme in a better country. So who am I supposed to talk to or work with and will it give me a chance to get into a nice PhD programme or am I doomed before I even start?

[Anonymous No.11195579]

>>11193720
>>11193720

>prove it
ok boomer

>Post dick
board is sfw, posting dick = ban

[Anonymous No.11195772]

>>11195579
no one actually cares

[Anonymous No.11195796]

>>11195772
I'm not him but someone did ask for him to prove it.

[Anonymous No.11195976]

>>11195772
then why ask buddy

[Anonymous No.11196040]

>>11187573
use this one next time

[Anonymous No.11196050]

>>11187573
>How's your research going anon?
still unsure on the specifics of it. But it will deal with craniofacial anomalies.
My heart is still set on the surgical aspect of it, but I have to move away from that, that ship sailed off a while ago.

[Anonymous No.11196075]

>>11195772
That's really rude Anon

[Anonymous No.11196164]

I'm having panic attacks about possibly missing this stupid committee meeting deadline. I'm in my 5th year, have 4 publications, 1 first author, another one in the works. The rest of my lab consisted of staff scientists (former grad students who stayed after graduating) and they all got laid off, so I'm alone. I've been dealing with anxiety and depression through the school's health services and therapy and they put me on gabapentin and klonopin. I'm shitting my pants and can't sleep because over fear of dismissal, either because I don't get this paper and presentation in good quality in time or because we're so close to the end of the semester that I won't be able to schedule the meeting itself for it among my committee, and since I'm on probation, this was my last semester to get this done. This is the last thing I need to do before I'm all-but-dissertation.
My therapist says not worry so much about it because grad students in good standing don't typically get kicked out for these reasons, and that it wouldn't be terrible to ask for an extension. I just can't even focus on it. I didn't even procrastinate, I've been working on it for months and tracking progress but I just absolutely suck at getting writing done.
My advisor also is the worst, I picked the group because the research is cool. But in my second year he told me if I quit that he would slit my throat.

[Anonymous No.11196263]

>>11189011
Thoughts like this are such a fundamental part of the scientific method

[Anonymous No.11196341]

Start of the second year, got a first-author paper brewing and a second-author imminent. Also some nth author papers past and future knocking about which I don't take much ownership over.

Unfortunately my research is brainlet-tier and I also don't have the personal qualities necessary for success anywhere. I'll probably write a thesis that nobody will give two shits about and then work at McDonalds or something.

[Anonymous No.11196906]

>>11196341
>I'll probably write a thesis that nobody will give two shits about
aka everyone's thesis

[Anonymous No.11197130]

>>11195451
What's his endgame? Are his papers total gibberish or what? I'm not a mathfag so I can't even tell.

[Anonymous No.11197133]

>>11195503
Honestly I don't know man. I would try to publish in some international conferences. When you attend them you can try to meet people.

[Anonymous No.11197139]

>>11196906
People read and cite my PhD research regularly.

[Anonymous No.11197234]

>>11197139
Research is one thing, thesis is another. Even if people read your work, they'll probably only ever read the abstract and maybe look at the pictures of your most popular papers. They almost certainly won't even glance at your actual thesis.

[Anonymous No.11197252]

>>11197234
I actually find theses to be pretty worth reading as they usually start with a decent introduction to a field you may be unfamiliar with. In contrast whatever particular results as PhD found are usually irrelevant and uninteresting.

[Anonymous No.11197255]

>>11197139
i'm not talking about your articles brainlet

[Anonymous No.11197290]

>>11197234
The thesis contains the research. My "most popular papers" and my "thesis" contain the same exact content. And people look at it on both forms. Though I typically prefer they look at them as journal papers I have had the actual dissertation document cited as well.

>they'll probably only ever read the abstract and maybe look at the pictures
welcome to the research world

>>11197255
Are you really not aware that most dissertations are just the persons 2-3 best articles pasted together into one document?

[Anonymous No.11197293]

>>11197252
As an introduction to the field maybe, sure, but for the actual people in your field (who'd be reading your work in the first place), they don't need a grad student doing babby's second literature review for them.

>whatever particular results as PhD found are usually irrelevant and uninteresting
This certainly does not hold, as within many fields a lot of the actual legwork will be done by the PhD students. Even if there's a Big Dick PI who's firing off the bombastic ideas, the first author will often be a student.

[Anonymous No.11197305]

>>11197290
>Are you really not aware that most dissertations are just the persons 2-3 best articles pasted together into one document?
I think this is almost literally true for some countries/systems and less literally true for others.

[Anonymous No.11197320]

>>11197293
Most PhDs do not produce interesting work. This isn't limited to PhDs, but all scientists in general.

[Anonymous No.11197355]

>>11197320
Fine if you think that, but we were talking about people reading theses. Most people, of course, will read neither article nor thesis, but of the small subset that does find your work interesting it is likely that vastly more will read your articles rather than your thesis. I don't know why you're being obtuse about this.

[Anonymous No.11197364]

>>11197355
it depends how important your research is
if you discover a way to cure HIV/AIDS everyone will be reading both bro

[Anonymous No.11197366]

>>11195579
This is awesome. I'm doing research in orthopaedics engineering as a first year undergrad and I've been struggling to read through everything I want. I wish I could drop all of my classes and go into a phd or just do a four year long internship doing research instead. Sadly I need credentials.

[Anonymous No.11197381]

>>11197366
I'm in a PhD. The foundation undergrad bullshit laid for me was necessary. Trust me. Even the english bullshit required classes in some way helped. The only ones that did not were the religious classes, because I just don't buy it, but that was my fault for accepting a religious school's money. Just trust me, it's for the best you have to jump through the hoops of undergrad and the application process of grad school before you get a PhD.

[Anonymous No.11197411]

>>11197355
My point is that theses are usually more helpful than your actual work because babby's second literature review gives you a quick and succinct overview of the field which can be used by a large number of people, and always includes the generally useful results, whereas your own personal work is likely to be highly specialized (and of little interest) and not particularly interesting compared to the highlights of your field you cover in your thesis. The small selection of people that do find your work interesting will obviously be more interested in your work, but for the much larger number of people the thesis is significantly more useful to read.

[Anonymous No.11197581]

>>11197411
>>11197355
What country do you guys live in where someones articles and thesis are not the exact same material?

[Anonymous No.11197658]

>>11197581
US, they are probably talking about background chapters.

[Anonymous No.11197671]

>>11197581
Most universities do let you do a sandwhich thesis but it's true that you write significantly better introductions to explain why your topic is interesting in those than in typical articles, where I assume most people are just sick of the intro and just want to write down their results.

[Anonymous No.11197674]

>>11197581
>>11197658
If you don't live in USA or UK you are ESL so why would you even use the same words as us you have different language for different concepts.

[Anonymous No.11197762]

>>11187573
is this how long it takes? really?

i'm about to be a sophomore in uni, pretty sure i'm gonna max myself out with a masters after an extra year here. does a phd really take another 3 years?

[Anonymous No.11197772]

>>11197762
are you just trying to humblebrag about some joint program your school does with undergrad+masters

[Anonymous No.11197775]

>>11197772
no im seriously asking

and i guarantee you the degree i get is going to be worthless to employers, the only real option is phd and teaching (most likely not at university) or being a self-employed author

[Anonymous No.11197779]

>>11197775
>>11197762
>sophomore
>>11197762
>does a phd really take another 3 years
in the US phd is 4+ years (rarely 3).
i know in europe you clowns like to say
>hurr durr my phd was only 3 years
but you dipshits do your masters before which is 2 years.

[Anonymous No.11197814]

>>11197779
>>11197775
>>11197772
>>11197762
seems to take most about 3-6years beyond the masters. it took me 4.5 but i was pretty lazy and could have done faster

[Anonymous No.11197823]

>>11197814
yikes. i can't afford that much time. i've wasted so much already. seriously considering becoming a police officer or something after uni. maybe if i can swing a different major for the masters i can work at a think tank or federal or something. i can't get a phd and teach, reading 18yo kids asspull papers from the night before.

[Anonymous No.11197845]

>>11197823
Phd is something you get for a research career. If you don't want to go into research, don't do it. What's your major, math or some other useless shit?

[Anonymous No.11197856]

>>11197845
Theology. Archaeology or some kind of forensics or language would be a good double major for research, but I'm more interested in the philosophical aspect of the field. I would like to go into research, but like I said for my particular interest apologetics or the language side of things I don't know how useful I'd be to any employer. The options literally seem to be teaching or being a successful author with a regular job on the side. Or become a Catholic deacon/priest.

[Anonymous No.11197859]

>>11197856
yikes just become a catholic priest and aim for becoming a bishop
best you can hope for with a meme degree

[Anonymous No.11197861]

>>11197856
>Theology
holy shit lol
>my particular interest apologetics...don't know how useful I'd be to any employer.
or to humanity

[Anonymous No.11197862]

>>11197859
>theology
>meme
Careful with that edge anon. And nah church politics is not for me, and going that route requires serious considerations. It's not just a career path, or something to do because you can't deal with life as an khv incel. I can do more good on the outside.

[Anonymous No.11197865]

>>11197862
It's not a meme, it's THE meme

[Anonymous No.11197877]

>>11197861
>holy shit lol
based right?

>or to humanity
Nah you'd be surprised. I'm very right wing, conservative (imo that's what the liberal arts are all about, stewarding the canon), and can see PLENTY that is wrong with our culture today. Social issues that the wokest of the woke don't talk about, or worse make the suffering of others into a joke or claim it as a right. There's lots of arguments to be made that could actually change the world for the better while also finding a paying audience.

[Anonymous No.11197882]

>>11197865
>it's THE meme
I'm curious, how so? I'm surprised to find someone who even has an opinion about it.

[Anonymous No.11197893]

>>11197877
I'm happy you want to improve the world but I'm very skeptical that someone who unironically majored in theology is capable of doing that in a significant way. Good luck though.

>>11197882
Do you even know who coined the word?

[Anonymous No.11197894]

anyone else on drugs?
>>11197882
you don't have to believe in theology to study it you fedora face

[Anonymous No.11197900]

>>11197893
Yeah, Dawkins. What does that have to do with a degree being a meme? Saying his name doesn't win arguments or prove theism incorrect.

Thanks for the kind wishes anon. Religion can be a touchy subject for incels and fedoras, but billions of people on this planet are believers. And the philosophical foundations for this belief have yet to be disproven. Religion is not simply a matter of correct belief, it is a partner of the state and should be seeking the good and the true and the beautiful. The right arguments have an immense potential for effecting change. I just don't see anyone doing this. It's a shame so many people are being introduced to the subject by someone as vulgar as Jordan Beeterson, for example.

>>11197894
>you don't have to believe in theology to study it you fedora face
Tell it to Kant. And you're thinking of Religious Studies, which is a different major. Theologians actually believe the truth of what they study, and the term is typically reserved for people in the Abrahamic traditions.

[Anonymous No.11197906]

>>11197900
>Saying his name doesn't win arguments or prove theism incorrect.
I know that but I'm not going to get into a debate about religion on 4chan. Anyway I think what you wrote is very silly (that's putting it nicely) but anyway you seem like a nice guy so good luck to you.

[Anonymous No.11197920]

>>11197906
>I know that but I'm not going to get into a debate about religion on 4chan.
Too late big guy. For what its worth I'd be interested to hear your take. I've found even the very greatest atheists have been unconvincing: Hitchens was brilliant but willfully obtuse on the subject. Dawkins and the rest don't even rate mentioning. Mostly they can't even get a leg over the problem of evil. Just because Scuton and Peter Hitchens and the rest are pompous inarticulate bores doesn't mean they are wrong.

>Anyway I think what you wrote is very silly (that's putting it nicely)
That parenthetical subverts whatever niceness you intended you big brainlet. And implying the PhD system isn't deserving of criticism. Most of those authors are writing in such a niche market or enforcing (willingly or not) their mentors and peers own echo chamber prejudices it's no surprise the liberal arts are stagnant these days. Wouldn't be surprised if the same effect was happening in STEM especially in the more politicized sciences.

>anyway you seem like a nice guy so good luck to you.
Thanks my lad.

[Anonymous No.11197926]

>>11189735
I had the same feelings about school due to the same reasons. I just needed money and had been a dependent leech for my entire 25 years of existence.. I was sick of it.. My advice is go and land a good paying job anon dont worry about your actual tasks just worry about how high your starting salary will be. Work there until you burn out, so ideally like 1-2 years. On the weekends treat yourself real nice, go out do some coke and fuck 10/10 hookers with your 100k salary but keep your cost of living as small as possible and save as much as you can (rent an apartment with some college kids, etc.) You basically want to gather as much money as you can to be able to tell your boss to fuck off in two years and go back to school for your masters. Find something to invest the savings into (flip things) and find small part time work maybe as a freelancer. when you quit. By the time you get your masters you will be able to leverage yourself into a 100k job guaranteed in the position you actually want (research) and by then please stop the coke and hookers and find yourself a qt 18 year old trad wife to bear your white children

[Anonymous No.11197930]

>>11197926
>>11189735
dont be the idiot that leases a brand new tesla two weeks into his job fresh out of college

[Anonymous No.11197937]

>>11189735
>state school
>california
join the Army, anon. serve one enlistment on active duty. 36 months and they'll cover 100% of your tuition at a state school and give you a monthly stipend. just don't fail any classes. you're not too old. yet.

[Anonymous No.11197946]

>>11197920
Sorry I just am not interested in getting into a debate about it. I generally agree with Sam Harris if that gives you an idea where I stand. Say whatever you want about it.

I really don't know too well about the non-STEM majors but you could be right about the echo chamber thing from what I've seen. I don't think I ever implied the PhD system shouldn't be criticized. In engineering I can tell you the echo chamber thing is basically non-existent.

>>11189735
It's gonna be tough to get a research job right out of undergrad but it does sometimes happen. If you get a good paying job you'll never end up going back for a PhD though. You could probably just have your employer pay for an MS while you're working.

>>11197926
nice larp

[Anonymous No.11197966]

>>11197946
>I generally agree with Sam Harris if that gives you an idea where I stand. Say whatever you want about it.
I heard a few of his podcasts a couple years ago. He is not a careful thinker. And he's another one of those guys who doesn't understand the problem of evil. He's stuck on the same argument from Epicurus, thousands of years ago.

>In engineering I can tell you the echo chamber thing is basically non-existent.
Yeh, I bet. I was thinking of those hard sciences as the most resistant to groupthink nonsense. I'm assuming that's your field. Good for you.

[Anonymous No.11197975]

>>11197966
I see nothing wrong with that pic. I don't find it very interesting though and I was more talking about his views on religion.

Yeah, I'm in ECE. It's not a field you can really bullshit in because it is so quantifiable and objective (in most cases). There is sometimes some use of buzzwords which is annoying but that is mostly just to placate some of the idiots who control the purse strings. However, like every field, we have a reproducible issue. But this is more out of laziness of documenting work rather than an inherent flaw in methods.

[Anonymous No.11197976]

>we have an actual theology major in here
wew

Amusement aside, wouldn't you be better off consulting /lit/ or /his/ about your particular career paths? I'm afraid you're relatively unlikely to find any advice for working to seriously better humanity with your degree from us.

[Anonymous No.11197986]

>>11197920
I already found a solution to the problem of evil though. Spoiler: it's a perceptual phenomena created by socio-linguistic structures formed during the evolution of our species. "me ape man, me no want hurt hurty, me say man who hurt me or thing i no want hurty evil, he bad me say god tell me this so people listen, me smart"

[Anonymous No.11197994]

>>11197976
>implying /sci/'s input is not valuable
>implying /his/'s is
wew indeed. I was just cruising by and saw the thread and had some questions. My man here has been mostly helpful and I am thankful for that.

>>11197975
Very interesting, thanks. It's cool to see how even the precise language of a field like engineering can be the point of failure because it is humans doing the talking. Seems a good opportunity for some bright student to codify a new technical writing standard, causal checklists that sort of thing.

And if you care he makes logical errors throughout his argument. Begging the question (despite his protestations against same, not all minds are conscious nor capable of sensing pain). Supposing there are not oughts in the world, then introducing oughts in his argument. And his conclusion is a joke. Facts good. Values bad. That might work for an NPC like Harris, but real people and institutions public and private have moral questions that need to be answered and claiming morality ought to be irrelevant to everyone because it is irrelevant to him is not an argument. There's scientific arguments that morality -- a moral sense, one that enables compassion and mercy and makes man alike to God as Shakespeare wrote -- is in fact in our genes, it's a feature that helped us survive as much as thumbs or symbolic thinking.

[Anonymous No.11198010]

>>11197986
You were doing really well calling it a language game, until you threw in the cynical observation about abusing the notion of God in statecraft. This ignores legitimate, personal mystical experience, and also the larger portion of the question. Specifically, evil being a privation of good, and coming from the good, and its final cause. Or even its formal cause. It does not exist in itself. What we can say about evil is that it is a product of man (who, being created, is good), but also a judgment of man. Evil is what we call events we don't like but also don't understand.

[Anonymous No.11198014]

>>11197994
>wew indeed. I was just cruising by and saw the thread and had some questions. My man here has been mostly helpful and I am thankful for that.
Who me? Not sure how I have been helpful.

>Very interesting, thanks. It's cool to see how even the precise language of a field like engineering can be the point of failure because it is humans doing the talking.
I wouldn't really put it that way. It's more of an annoyance than anything hearing people use stupid terms like "big data". I don't think it's really a serious problem.
>Seems a good opportunity for some bright student to codify a new technical writing standard, causal checklists that sort of thing.
That doesn't sound like a good idea in any way. It sounds like a solution in search of a problem.

I think you are getting Harris totally wrong but not really interested in discussing it too much. More interesting in talking about PhD and research related things here.

[Anonymous No.11198017]

>>11198010
>legitimate, personal mystical experience
every single instance of supposed mystical experience has been disproven
people just went to sleep, had "visions" (dreams) and thought it was DUDE SUPERNATURAL LMAO due to ignorance
maybe if it was the 16th century and you were an ignorant farmer i could understand you believing in "mystical experience", it's just poorly understood interactions in your brain
you're right about not understand tho, the majority of human beliefs are based on ignorance and fear
>inb4 tips fedora

[Anonymous No.11198027]

>>11187590

this

[Anonymous No.11198054]

>>11197674
>if you don't live in uk or us you are ESL

Brainlet take

[Anonymous No.11198064]

>>11197674
>UK
'ERE ERE WE GO LAD KNOWS RIGHT, FORNERS LEARN TO SPEK THE QUEENS OR OUT YAS ARE

[Anonymous No.11198074]

>>11197966

>the problem of evil
Would evil exist if each and every period possessing the qualities of "possesses a cluster B personality disorder" simultaneously suffered a heart attack?

[Anonymous No.11198080]

>>11198074
Assuming you meant person not period. Yes. In real terms evil is a privation of good, a signifier we arrive at by a judgment. This judgment is made by men with limited faculties, but as I said before it is typically a label for things we don't like and also do not understand -- that is, we ask why such things happen. We ask why because we assume these evil things should not happen if God is omnipotent and merciful, because these events seem to us to be unjust. The mistake man makes is passing judgment at all. We don't know the plans of the transcendent, and being so uninformed can hardly claim to be qualified to pass adequate judgment upon it. This is the solution to the problem of evil, which so many otherwise smart guys seem to be unable to parse. Usually because of a personal bias against religion. But I haven't said a word about religion in this post.

[Anonymous No.11198087]

>>11198080
Can you explain why you believe evil is a privation of good and not an inversion?

Cold is a privation of heat, but pain is an inversion of pleasure.

[Anonymous No.11198088]

That is to say, if all cluster Bs suddenly got snapped out of existence, "evil" accidents could still happen. Catastrophic natural phenomena like tsunamis and earthquakes and volcanoes would still kill thousands and leave more homeless. Even in the so-called normal humans, injustice and moral carelessness would still exist. The causes of war and famine would still exist.

[Anonymous No.11198090]

>>11198087
Yes. Pic related. We're playing a language game of course, but words still do mean things.

[Anonymous No.11198092]

>>11198080
cringe retard virgin philosopher: why do things happen?
based chad: things just happen bro

[Anonymous No.11198093]

>>11198080
Is this the kind of shit theology majors actually study all day?

[Anonymous No.11198094]

>>11198090
Am I misunderstanding Aquinas? He seems to take evil being a privation of good as a premise. He simply says it and uses that idea to justify the idea that good things can causing evil.

I want to know why evil is a lack of good and not an inversion, or opposite, of good.

[Anonymous No.11198105]

>>11198092
>implying that question is not common to pretty much everyone and not just philosophers
Pretty sure I've had more sex than you kiddo.

>>11198093
No. This is more philosophy freshman tier, but Aristotelean-Platonic philosophy is pretty closely tied to the Christian tradition.

>>11198094
>I want to know why evil is a lack of good and not an inversion, or opposite, of good.
He explains it clearly there. I'm afraid you are misunderstanding him.

The premise he is using comes from Genesis, where God spoke creation into existence and called it "good," but it's also supported by Aristotle, the Neoplatonists, and their successors the Scholastics who viewed God as pic related. Evil is not an inversion or opposite of good because it cannot exist except as a failure of good. It is contingent upon some created thing, all of which are good. If you take a look at Aristotle's view on change, or Aquinas' explanation of it, you'll see all change requires some "motus" or motion. This is not the same motion we think of in physics today, its rather more like a means. The thing changed inherits from what it is changed by. For example: to change a white fence to a blue fence requires blue paint. To change water to ice the water inherits some measurable quantity of cold. In this way, evil is not an inversion or opposite of good because it cannot inherit from good. Good cannot change itself to evil, good is only called evil when it fails to achieve whatever standard of good we have decided on using.

[Anonymous No.11198109]

>>11198105
>Pretty sure I've had more sex than you kiddo.
Yeah it's pretty easy for faggots to get laid.

[Anonymous No.11198112]

>>11198105
>To change water to ice the water inherits some measurable quantity of cold.
you just completely rekt your own argument

[Anonymous No.11198118]

>>11198105
If every thing that is created is good, does that mean you think that things that only have the ability to cause human suffering are good?

Is children with bone cancer good? Is parasites that devour men's organs from the inside out good? Is a plague good? Are earthquakes and forest fires and droughts that kill millions good?

Or is this some abstract "divine good", far removed from our traditional understanding of the word good?

[Anonymous No.11198123]

>>11198118
>does that mean you think that things that only have the ability to cause human suffering are good?
No, absolutely not. The opposite in fact. Read the jackedaquinas pic again: "only good can be a cause; because nothing can be a cause except inasmuch as it is a being, and every being, as such, is good." Being here refers literally to something existing physically. Some material thing. Created things. Only good things can be a cause (in the Aristotlean sense) because only good things exist materially to have cause upon each other for us to observe.

>Or is this some abstract "divine good", far removed from our traditional understanding of the word good?
No. There are no tricky word games here, this is philosophy not sophism. It is based in good faith argument - we don't want to win arguments, we want to seek and know truth.

>Is children with bone cancer good? Is parasites that devour men's organs from the inside out good? Is a plague good? Are earthquakes and forest fires and droughts that kill millions good?
Your first example is one frequently brought around by atheist apologists like Hitchens. That's fine, I like Hitchens quite a lot. But it's an appeal to emotion and you know it. The inconvenient and unappealing answer is yes. I'll explain why. It's good in the sense that bone cancer is a material thing. If cancer should be perceived as injustice, it is only evidence for Aquinas' premise. We call it evil because as I said twice before -- we have only our mortal faculties that are incapable of understanding the intentions of the transcendent and therefore don't know the final cause of any of these events. Theologians call it divine providence. It's a black box. If there is blame to be placed, it can go there. And then I would refer you to the title character of the book of Job, and the answer he received therein.

[Anonymous No.11198124]

>>11198088

Natural phenomena can't be "good" or "evil", they just are. War isn't a natural phenomenon, and its cause can be primarily attributed to the actions of humans. Multiple humans who by definition must have empathy (because the absence of empathy and/or remorse is what puts you into the Cluster B category) making the decision to just up and slaughter the people of another country? Doubtful.

[Anonymous No.11198128]

>>11198123
>

So I think we agree about the idea of an unmoved mover, Aquinas and others have made very solid arguments in favor of that. Whether we want to call that unmoved mover god... I don't know. It's this part that worries me:

>It's all a black box.

Doesn't this just mean we know nothing about god other than the unmoved mover part? We don't know what god values, we don't know what he wants from us. How is this different from being agnostic?

[a_poor_sinner !!eiHxl4pZe1i No.11198129]

>>11198124
>War isn't a natural phenomenon
Agreed, it is a consequence of injustice. What is more unjust than a war that displaces and kills innocents? Here is where I break with the church and Saint Augustine, who argued for such a thing as a just war theory. Although the criteria was not such things being natural phenomena, but rather what would the effect of removing a group of psychologically unbalanced humans from the population. I never said war was natural, though I suspect it is. Link related: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gombe_Chimpanzee_War

>Natural phenomena can't be "good"
Okay. Says you.
>or "evil"
Agreed, I made this argument just above your post.

>making the decision to just up and slaughter the people of another country? Doubtful.
It has literally happened in your lifetime. Multiple times. Soldiers are not demons or robots, they're men with mothers and fathers. They make a choice every time they pull a trigger. They are forced by economic causes, famine, social pressures, ethnic hatred, whatever. There are many reasons even good and moral people choose to do bad things. Link related: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment

[a_poor_sinner !!eiHxl4pZe1i No.11198130]

>>11198128
>We don't know what god values, we don't know what he wants from us.
This is why faith is a theological virtue. If we believe the classical argument that God is perfect and omniscient and created us out of a superabundance of love, that God is a slowly-revealed form of the Good, then having faith in his purpose (his telos, or final cause) is a good act. This isn't even counting what, if you are a believer, Jesus literally says about how we should act with respect to each other and to God; sermon on the mount, sermon on the plain, etc.

[a_poor_sinner !!eiHxl4pZe1i No.11198134]

It's been very nice chatting with you but I've got to finish this fucking homework. Semester's almost over and I hate this paper's topic but it has to be done because I can't afford to fail.

If you're interested in this sort of thing, I recommend looking up the catechism of the Catholic church. It's available free online. See what it says about the theological virtues and the cardinal virtues, which incidentally are also the classical Stoic virtues. There's a lot of old philosophy inherited in the tradition, and it helps provide some degree of rigor that makes the leap to faith credible if not necessarily easier.

[Anonymous No.11198138]

>>11198130
>God is perfect

We don't know that

>God has an abundance of love

We don't know that

>God is good

We don't know that

>God has a purpose

We don't know that

>Jesus

We don't know that God (the one responsible for the universe) is the abrahamic God.

All we know is that there is an unmoved mover and we name him God. You said it yourself, it's just one big black box. Ascribing any other qualities to God is an exercise in futility.

[Anonymous No.11198143]

>>11198134
I agree, it has been a very nice chat. I only ever took one intro to philosphy course in my freshman year so it was nice to refresh my mind on the subject of God.

I wish you the best of luck with your theology degree, you might not make as much money as a CSfag like me but I think your journey has been much more intellectually fulfilling

[a_poor_sinner !!eiHxl4pZe1i No.11198150]

>>11198138
I said providence was a black box: God's intentions, or plan, not God himself. :^)

>We don't know that
see Aquinas' first way. would be interested to hear your answer to his argument. make a thread in /lit/ and link it here, i don't want to drag this thread any more off-topic. see you tomorrow anon.

>>11198143
Thanks fren, you're a cool dude. Don't eat any bad cookies.

[Anonymous No.11198378]

How competitive is a PhD in CS in USA and UK? I came from a third world country and will receive grants from our government if I get accepted in any foreign universities.

[Anonymous No.11198419]

>>11198378
Get the PhD at MIT or CMU in the States or maybe Imperial/Ecole in Europe.

[Anonymous No.11198684]

>>11197986
I’m a non-STEM grad student and reading shit like this in combination with your massively inflated perceptions of your own knowledge and understanding is exactly why STEMbots are going to drive human society straight into the ground. You already did it once with the industrial revolution, again with the invention of weapons of mass destruction, and now with ubiquitous surveillance and urbanization. Spoiler alert: your degrees are centered around trivial bullshit, you’re only contributing to a machine that is destroying both the only home we have and our very natures as non-robotic beings, and the only reason why 99% of you are pursuing this path is because you are virgins with poor social skills who would rather spend your lives in front of a computer than actually experience it and learn about those things that are of true importance.

but nothing I say is ever going to do anything but provide you with slight discomfort, understanding the truth about your predicament but unwilling or, more likely, not aware enough to actually admit to it

[Anonymous No.11198755]

>>11198378
What country? I'm a third world math major as well. Wouldn't mind going into CS, but I don't have a masters or anything. I've done a summer course at IMPA though if that means anything.

[Anonymous No.11198834]

>>11198419
Is admission their really hard? What is the coverage of their entrance tests?

>>11198755
From the Philippines, we were recently ranked as the worst in reading, writing, and science. And honestly, I would love to get the hell out of here. This is the only country where you are smarter than the professors themselves(well most of them anyways).

What's your area of interest? Mine's cryptography, but unfortunately it seems like I have to go to my 2nd option, A.I. to get that sweet funding.

[Anonymous No.11198850]

>>11198834
Due to heavy competition, you'll need pretty much perfect grades and substantial research work during undergrad/master's. Plus really strong references.

[Anonymous No.11198881]

>>11195579
Is Magnificus a cool dude?

[Anonymous No.11198896]

>>11196040
Are you saying CS is easier?

[Anonymous No.11199092]

>>11192970
Actually, living with a mortician is how I found out about the holocaust being a lie; the natural progression is to see what that lie has been used for. Look up how fast the process of cremation is if you're so sure you're right.

[Anonymous No.11199141]

>>11198124
>War isn't a natural phenomenon
fucking pseud
EVERYTHING is natural, because EVERYTHING THAT CAN POSSIBLY EXIST is constrained by basic fundamental physical laws

[Anonymous No.11199210]

>>11199141
if everything is constrained by physical laws, how can time be explained? for time is either infinite or finite, yet a basic physical law of the universe is that everything that is measurable has quantity, and everything that has quantity is finite, so time cannot be infinite, yet another basic natural law is that everything occurs in time, so nothing could have occurred outside of time, so time must be finite, given that yet another basic natural law is that there must always be something in existence. how do you explain this apparent contradiction?

[Anonymous No.11199213]

>>11199210
*given that there must always be something in existence, and that time must exist for something to be in existence, time can not be finite either. so time must either be finite or infinite, yet both are impossible

[Anonymous No.11199222]

>>11198834
Well, at least you have the advantage of being a native English speaker.

[Anonymous No.11199251]

>>11187573
Isn't a phd only for people that struggle with finding a job with just a bachelors/masters? If it wasn't a necessity to get a job with your worthless degree, it were a waste of fucking time, right? Poor non-engineerinig STEM-tards

inb4 it's my passion, I love doing science man!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111

[Anonymous No.11199283]

>>11199251
>Isn't a phd only for people that struggle with finding a job with just a bachelors/masters?
lmfao is this really what engies think?

[Anonymous No.11199292]

>>11199251
a lot of phd students (especially in math and cs) intern in the summer at top companies so its not like they can't get jobs.

[Anonymous No.11199307]

>>11199292
Yeah, cause they're phd students. They would never get hired even for intern with only a masters as non-phd students

[Anonymous No.11199309]

>>11199307
you clearly have vast amounts of experience with post-graduate education l0l

[Anonymous No.11199320]

>>11199307
>>11199309
most grad students at top programs would have a resume that is completely filled with publications and internships at the best companies. The standards are impossibly high these days.

[Anonymous No.11199424]

>>11187573
Academia is for based retards that can't go off the tracks. You should only get a degree if you need a DEGREE.

[Anonymous No.11199496]

>>11197946
>>11197920

The echo chamber in STEM is as bad as the humanities, especially at graduate level. Scientists think they know everything and don't apply the same level of scrutiny to politics as they do to their work. They think that what they are studying is more important than family, yet they don't realize that their interest in creation is meant for the purpose of helping their family. Scientists are notoriously awful at looking at politics and making a simple connection between two things and thinking it is the obvious solution, without accounting for the sheer number of factors at play.

[Anonymous No.11199645]

>>11199141

Natural as compared to artificial (human-made).

[Anonymous No.11199843]

>>11198150
>>14289819 made a thread :D

[Anonymous No.11199890]

>>11187902
True.

[Anonymous No.11200046]

>>11199496
I disagree.

[Anonymous No.11200806]

>>11187573
Met with my advisor today. He said I should have been publishing in a different journal than the ones I've published in. Trying to figure out a) how much of a piece of shit he is and b) whether to drop him after five years.
>fml

[Anonymous No.11201060]

>>11198881
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rector_(academia)

[Anonymous No.11201469]

>>11200806
are they mdpi journals

[El Arcón No.11201665]

>>11199890
If only "if only..." posters knew how quickly I would use the nuclear weapons to make it all nice and clean.

[El Arcón No.11201671]

[Anonymous No.11202057]

>>11201469
No, I have a couple of publications across a couple of related fields and he wants me to publish in some journal that is completely unrelated to anything I've worked on. While refusing to sign IRB for any of my research.

[Anonymous No.11202126]

>>11195579
Did you go into academia or industry? I'm curious to know what the impression regarding your indices was during the job hunt as we have similar stats.

[Anonymous No.11202146]

>>11201671
Good post because we know exactly how your research is going.

[Anonymous No.11202180]

Is it worth going to academia if I live in a country worse than India(in terms of academics, not hygiene)?

[Anonymous No.11202217]

>>11202180
What is the funding situation like there, and what is your end-goal? In my field, there is still an unspoken stigma towards research not conducted in the US/Europe/Japan/Taiwan/Singapore. Academics from, for example, India still publish, but rarely in high impact factor journals. I feel that this limits their upward mobility out of their home country, but they still "easily" have tenured positions/fully-funded labs, etc. in their home countries. Easily being relative, you still have to bust your ass.

[Anonymous No.11202244]

>>11202217
Its quite easy to get, I just need to pass the examination. Although, I have to work a certain number of years here in my home country after grad school, but it is pretty good. The stipend per month is greater than what the average college grad gets here, but slightly lower than IT.
Unfortunately, the field that they will give a grant to is limited, I plan to pursue CS in grad school, and they've limited it to just AI and Data Science. The specialization that I want is in Cryptography, to work for the glowniggers at the Pentagon.

[Anonymous No.11202278]

>>11202244
>Not born in the US.
Good luck ever working for the spooks here. You can always work for the spooks where you are.

"AI"/machine vision/learning and data science are big right now. They're hot fields with tons of funding being poured into them. Security is heavily-government sponsored here in the US, as you can imagine, but obviously there's a ton of controls on that research and being a US citizen is a must. Technically, a PI can list only their US citizen RAs on the contract, while letting anyone in their lab work on the technical details, but have fun come reporting time.

[Anonymous No.11202313]

May not end up having to take out loans. I'm being considered for a TA position now.

For those of you currently working as a TA, any advice on efficiently juggling TA work with research?

[Anonymous No.11202522]

>>11202126
Academia. Directly following my PhD I applied for and got a grant to fund my post doctoral work. I'm now on a follow up grant for another 3 years.

[Anonymous No.11202534]

>>11202522
And just to clarify: there wasn't actually a job hunt after my PhD. I already knew where I wanted to go after my PhD, and had a job offer from that lab without applying. The grants were just an added bonus, to spice up the CV and give me a little more room to set up my own line of research.

[Anonymous No.11202566]

>>11202522
>>11202534
Gotcha. Congrats. Are you going to go the private/national-lab PI route, or look for a tenure-track position later on down the line?

[Anonymous No.11202568]

>>11202534
how are you so good?

[Anonymous No.11202587]

>>11195579
What is the fastest path to speed-superintelligence?

[Anonymous No.11202614]

>>11202568
Having the proper network helps a lot, but you still need to have product: results, publications, grant awards. I'd be willing to bet anon busted their ass.

People may not agree with publish or perish, and might like the idea of quality over quantity, but when department heads rank their faculty's output, both quantity and quality (sometimes relative to the field) are factored into the equation. When your PI is pushing you to publish, it really is to the benefit of the both of you.

[Anonymous No.11202634]

>>11202566
Depends on the next few years. My wife is also in academia, and it's difficult for both of us to get tenure in the same city. So it's possible that one or both of us transition to industry, simply for job security reasons. I'd like to become a PI and have a decent shot at it too I think, but I'm not willing to sacrifice my private life for it.

>>11202568
Just luck. Really. I did a few high-risk high-reward projects during my PhD and they payed off. I also had a pretty supportive PI and we got along well. He was really a proper mentor, and way more patient than I could ever be. That was invaluable.

>>11202614
>I'd be willing to bet anon busted their ass.
I did work a lot, but that wasn't the primary reason that things went well. It helped, but I know a lot of people who work as much as I do and did not produce anything good enough to build a career on.

[Anonymous No.11202637]

>>11202587
Biologically inspired mean field models with additional control parameters to regulate global gain in a stim and context specific manner I'd guess. Flexibility is what's missing at the moment and such control parameters could help there. But I don't know, I'm not an AI guy.

[Anonymous No.11202658]

>>11202637
Sorry, I meant how to increase the speed of the brain and CNS in the phenotype? Is a drug theoretically possible?

[Anonymous No.11202673]

>>11202658
I dunno man, you'd have to basically re-design the thing from the ground up and remove all the inefficiency and leak that takes up space and computational resources. Unlikely that any single drug is able to do that. But even if it could, you'd basically be killing the person and replacing it with another. So you might as well directly go the AI route.

[Anonymous No.11202683]

>>11187902
Or, your average PHD student isn't used to interacting with those of lesser (normal) iq

[Anonymous No.11202704]

>>11202673
I'm not too concerned about 'dying'. This strange post on /pol/ explains a possible way with phenotypic engineering:
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/220814504/
https://pastebin.com/1yqZ5THg

Unfortunately this method would cause a permanent change which would make interacting with the environment difficult.

[Anonymous No.11202721]

>>11202704
>post on /pol/
Ive lost interest, have a nice day

[Anonymous No.11202726]

>>11202721
How very unscientific of you.

[Anonymous No.11203114]

>>11202057
>>11200806
Why didn't you run it by him before you submitted there?

[Anonymous No.11203116]

>>11201665
>>11201665
the word cringe gets thrown around a lot but this actually made me cringe

[Anonymous No.11203122]

>>11202244
>The specialization that I want is in Cryptography, to work for the glowniggers at the Pentagon.
absolutely based.
>>11202278
You don't need to be born in the US but you need to become a US citizen, renounce your other citizenship, and get a security clearance. It is possible.

[Anonymous No.11203133]

>>11202244
what country?

[Anonymous No.11203161]

>>11194954
Now everybody's got advice they just keep on givin', Doesn't mean too much to me

[Anonymous No.11203194]

>>11194954

i tried to network over the years but my advisor was never interested in collaborating with other departments, or really anyone who wasn't chinese. this limited me somewhat.

[Anonymous No.11203205]

I dropped out. If I do a shitty mini thesis I can get a masters

[Anonymous No.11203215]

>>11203194
cont.

everything was done through him. he arranged collaborations, he broke off contacts, he made new ones. he introduce me but i never felt truly acquainted with any of his associates. they were all foreigners who would come and go seemingly at random.

this is part of why i think he's an asshole.

[Anonymous No.11203226]

>>11203205

a fate truly worse than death

[Anonymous No.11203304]

>>11203226
Meh, I make more money now at least

[Anonymous No.11203401]

>>11203304

i've got too much time and effort sunk to go that route. they'll sooner find me hanging in a closet.

[Anonymous No.11203540]

just finished my NDSEG research proposal

holy shit that was harder than I thought

[Anonymous No.11203594]

>>11192870
this

[Anonymous No.11203598]

>>11198124
I don't consider war to be evil. The justifications or intentions can be, but not combat itself. Combat and war are just extensions of ecologically natural competition and territorial hostility. I think deception, misrepresentation, dehumanization, and genocide are evil, but not war in itself.

[Anonymous No.11203622]

>>11202278
Well shit sucks desu, but I'm willing to transfer to USA, to get a much better life.

>>11203122
How hard is it to get there to the US?

>>11203133
The Philippines.

[Anonymous No.11203623]

>>11203622

fuck off we're full

>to get a much better life.

read: "bigger paycheck"

[Anonymous No.11203650]

does anyone have any stories of grad students getting kicked out rather than leaving on their own?
i only know one guy who, from what i've heard, was kicked out due to lack of research progress because he would leave in the middle of the day to go to the gym.
i just have a crippling fear of dismissal at one of my committee meetings

[Anonymous No.11203806]

>>11203622
Honestly I don't know how hard it would be for you, but I wish you the best. We need more smart people helping the glowniggers against the chinks.

[Anonymous No.11203814]

>>11203650
>does anyone have any stories of grad students getting kicked out rather than leaving on their own?
We had one guy selling hardware from our lab on ebay (which was donated by a company we worked with). The company found it on ebay and notified the professors.

>i only know one guy who, from what i've heard, was kicked out due to lack of research progress because he would leave in the middle of the day to go to the gym.
There is nothing wrong with going to the gym in the middle of the day. Most grad students get paid for 20hrs/week and have a flexible schedule. As long as he attends necessary meetings and gets work done this should not be an issue.
>i just have a crippling fear of dismissal at one of my committee meetings
Why? Do you suck?

[Anonymous No.11203909]

>Mfw I aspire to have a PhD in Physics some day but I have a D- in Calc 1 right now
Should I just stop?

[Anonymous No.11203942]

>>11203909
with a D in calc i wouldn't even want you in sociology let alone actual science

[Anonymous No.11204013]

>>11202726
It's not unscientific to stay a-political. The text starts with "dear übermensch"...

Aside from that, it's a stream of convoluted word-vomit that basically describes way to achieve in-vivo genetic modification that is more risky and less practical than techniques that already exist today. It reads like it was written by an undergrad drop out.

[Anonymous No.11204085]

>>11203909
depends, did you get a D- cause you're a retard or because you didn't try?

[Anonymous No.11204145]

>>11203909
>>11203942
>>11204085
My average grade in college was a C- and I'm making 600k a year now in an industry that is full of PhDs. Sometimes you just have to take another path if things don't work out for you.

[Anonymous No.11204453]

>>11191396
uhm. well a lot of the masters students dont really know what they're doing until the second half of their last year. some are so unmotivated hat their masters takes them 4 years that i know can be done in 1 by someone who is competent in the field. then again i guess thats a big reason why people go to grad school, to learn.
as for the imposter syndrom i dont know. if people think they aren't smart they keep it to thrmselves. granted when you're surrounded by people who are very specialized in their fields it's easy to know how much you dont know. most of the people i know who complain are in ecology. im sure it's partly due to the professors being shitty but i think the biggest issue comes down to the questions asked in the field. unless you're lucky you wont have good results and if you are lucky you will have boring results. a lot of the time these people lack mathematical competence and so lack a good ability to recognize, abstract, and solve problems. by the way the 4 year masters guy is a math physics undergrad and now works in modelling. daily determination and problem solving are absoputely necessary for work where you're the one incharge of your own results and thoughts.

[Anonymous No.11204460]

>>11191425
thanks anon.

my philosophy is to put my heart into the things i love. when i am no longer needed in a field I'll leave. im lucky enough that this approach is possible wih my abilities and their isnt a crazy cut throat academic life like there is in china. if you make good good work, other people who love the field as much as you do will turn their heads.

[Anonymous No.11204622]

>doing PhD in math
>get my master's en-route
>absolutely hate research and want to drop out
>want to teach at community college
Been in a bind past few months wondering if I should do it.

[Anonymous No.11204741]

>>11204622
Get a job and teach on the side.

[Anonymous No.11205049]

>>11204145
what the fuck are you doing that pays 600k?

[Anonymous No.11205063]

>>11205049
larping

[Anonymous No.11205068]

>>11205049
quantitative research

[Anonymous No.11205072]

>>11205068
sounds pretty vague. im guessing you're in finance?

[Anonymous No.11205073]

>>11205072
quant trading yes

[Anonymous No.11205079]

>>11205068
how did you get into that without a phd from a top school? and shit grades

[Anonymous No.11205080]

>>11205073
so high frequency trading?

[Anonymous No.11205089]

>>11205080
my firm doesn't use fast trading or HFT but all of our trading is fully automated.

[Anonymous No.11205986]

>>11203650
>i just have a crippling fear of dismissal at one of my committee meetings
Pussy. Rub your dick in their faces and call them Olga.

[Anonymous No.11206189]

i need to get off my chest that i'm irrationally pissed off at the advertisements wiley journals put into their article pdfs. and the fucking papers cut off at the last line when you print them out

[Anonymous No.11206206]

>>11206189
>using a for profit publisher
not even once

[Anonymous No.11206213]

>>11206206
oh shut the fuck up as if there's even a choice

[Anonymous No.11206236]

>>11206213
of course there is a choice. what field are you in?

[Anonymous No.11206241]

>>11206236
do you seriously think for every piece of work done that people publish the same thing in parallel in for-profit, non-profit, and open-access journals?

[Anonymous No.11206243]

>>11206241
what i meant is that you may need to read articles in for-profit journals but you don't need to publish there. i never would. i'm happy that in my field almost nobody does so i very rarely even need to look at articles in for-profit journals.

[Anonymous No.11206260]

>>11206243
oh yeah i always push to publish my own shit in open access

[Anonymous No.11206266]

>>11206260
that is ideal of course but unfortunately the best journals in my field tend not to be open, and often the open ones have a big fee. at the very least though i publish in non-profits and post the PDFs online so anyone can find them with a google search

[Anonymous No.11206427]

>>11206266
Non-profit journals? What the fuck are you talking about? Can you name one? In my field, any serious journal is for-profit. You know that open-access and non-profit are not the same thing, right?

[Anonymous No.11206469]

>>11206427
Non-profit means that the publishing organization is a non-profit organization. IEEE is an example. IEEE has both open access and paid journals, but the organization is non-profit. Elsevier is a for-profit company.