should scientists be apolitical?

[Anonymous No.11078005]

privately i am completely economically liberal and socially libertarian (e.g. free college and healthcare would be good if we could siphon the money off from the .01% and if you want to have sex with whoever, go ahead, that's your business) but as a science person i tend to keep my political opinions to myself in public contexts, like my online presence and public presentations (and even one-on-one i tend to try and feel out the other person before revealing my political leanings).

however, some scientists just go all-out with political statements. i find that inappropriate for the basic reason that if you want to be trusted scientifically, you shouldn't push opinions. of a scientist does that, people whose opinions disagree with that scientist will tend to think the scientist is untrustworthy in general and might distrust even their legitimate scientific results. in other words you dilute the power of your stances on factual science by mixing what you stand for with political opinions.

shit like pic related is just not good for science, as far as i can tell. people like that should just stfu and go back to the lab and do real work instead of meaningless crap like posing for lame political photo ops

[Anonymous No.11078009]

>>11078005
>tranny at bottom-left
Ouch.

[Anonymous No.11078011]

>>11078005
>fetal alcohol at bottomr right
Yikes

[Anonymous No.11078013]

>>11078005
yes.It doesn't really make sense I think.

[Anonymous No.11078043]

imagine actually wearing this shirt as a male, imagine what has to run through such a mind. So thoroughly cucked, society no longer needs to moderate his behavior as he voluntarily cages himself. All "bad" thoughts immediately quashed, only following the instructions that have been lain out for him. We are reaching levels of oversocialization that shouldn't even be possible.

[Anonymous No.11078049]

>>11078005
What about political scientists?

[Anonymous No.11078072]

>>11078049
i’m talking about natural sciences not social sciences

[Anonymous No.11078083]

>>11078072
>not being social by nature

[Anonymous No.11078098]

>>11078043
"but at least, i have all the pussies for myself" said the cuck

[Anonymous No.11078101]

>>11078072
>>11078043
cool_ice_learning confirmed

[Anonymous No.11078111]

>>11078101
wot? is this some esoteric meme i don’t know about?

[Anonymous No.11078133]

>>11078101
>>11078111
>search it
>only reference is another /sci/ thread
Wot m8, is this a new schizo meme I dont know about?

[Anonymous No.11078139]

>>11078133
that can’t be blue board safe, delet before ban

[Anonymous No.11078228]

>>11078005
It should be context dependent. Scientists have to present a position on issues of health, climate change etc, that requires expert opinion. Even based in fact, they need to present opinion
In the more causal, it's fine to slip a joke in about congress or the token celeb face for either party during a talk or whatever, so long as it's not detracting from the science they are they to convey. The detraction I assign to the presenter, most people aren't going to fixate on one joke about their topic of triggering, and those that do are ignoring the science, so the presenter has to present appropriately.
OP pic is fine, because there is no good scientific justification for patriarchal societies. It's fine then for the scientists to commune it is not a scientifically defensible thing. People that reject the science because it hurts their feelings

[Anonymous No.11078234]

>>11078005
Science in a free economy is already hierarchical when grounded by a high ceiling of mathematical encryption. It already has its own system.

[Anonymous No.11078237]

>>11078005
No. Science itself is apolitical. People can do whatever they want in free time.

[Anonymous No.11078390]

>>11078237
Science is apolitical if you're sperging out over condensed matter physics or whatever. But biology and psychology are filled with liberal women who are more than happy to push out low-quality research for the sake of upholding a political narrative. We should be thankful that "pay attention to me, I'm a woman in STEM!" t-shirts like in OP are the worst they can do outside their soft sciences.

[Anonymous No.11078409]

>>11078133
AYAYAYAYAYAYA!!!!!

[Anonymous No.11078414]

>>11078390
>biology
apolitical
>psychology
not science

[Anonymous No.11078509]

>>11078390
>But biology and psychology are filled with liberal women who are more than happy to push out low-quality research for the sake of upholding a political narrative.
i don’t think that is true of most american bio departments
>We should be thankful that "pay attention to me, I'm a woman in STEM!" t-shirts like in OP are the worst they can do outside their soft sciences.
the people in OP are physics people, and they are a group that exists in physics. i even know male physics professors who promote overtly political shit like this

[Anonymous No.11078537]

>>11078005
Nobody should be apolitical. In the west we live in supposed democracies. Every citizen has not just a right, but a responsibility to political activity. Anybody whose boss or society tells them otherwise is having their single most important freedom taken away.

> i find that inappropriate for the basic reason that if you want to be trusted scientifically, you shouldn't push opinions
Better for the public that an idiot opens his mouth and demonstrates his idiocy than that he stays silent and people blindly believe his expertise.

[Anonymous No.11078553]

>>11078228
Sorry, but only patriarchal societies will survive in the long run. Feminist societies have low birth rates.

[Anonymous No.11078558]

>>11078414
biology is not apolitical. What with liberals claiming that there are a gazillion genders

[Anonymous No.11078632]

>>11078553
so here's why that's not science:
the modern feminist movement has as part of their considerations family-work "balance". Even if traditional models have lower birth rates, nothing suggest it's to the point of collapse, and finally there are 7 billion fucking people, we don't need replacement level birth rates. In 200 years we'll be able to do the whole thing in a bottle if we want. The predictions your statement makes are not applicable

[Anonymous No.11078641]

>>11078005
>scientists should pretend to not have opinions
come on now

[Anonymous No.11078651]

Yes, but alot of those 7 billion people belong to patriarchal/conservative societies. As such, once the population of people who hold feminist or egalitarian views goes down, the people from conservative, patriarchal cultures will slowly replace them/outbreed them. Meaning, that eventually, there will be very few feminist countries left. Ultimately, people with conservative views will be in the majority. This is already happening to whites. Muslims are outbreeding them in their own countries. London no longer be majority white in a few years, for example.

[Anonymous No.11078654]

>>11078641
they should atleast strive to be objective. Ofcourse, that is no longer possible in today's PC society. Scientists that say anything that goes against the leftist narrative will be fired immediately.

[Anonymous No.11078677]

>>11078005
#1, 3, and 5 on the top cute af goddam

[Anonymous No.11078686]

>>11078005
There should be abolsutely zero politics in science, politics are for con artists to attract a following to dumb sheep, science should stay as far away from that as possible, which is why this whole women in science thing is the biggest forced meme in the field, hire who's best for the job and if it happens to be all men or women, then so be it.

[Anonymous No.11078704]

>>11078632
Yes, but alot of those 7 billion people belong to patriarchal/conservative societies. As such, once the population of people who hold feminist or egalitarian views goes down, the people from conservative, patriarchal cultures will slowly replace them/outbreed them. Meaning, that eventually, there will be very few feminist countries left. Ultimately, people with conservative views will be in the majority. This is already happening to whites. Muslims are outbreeding them in their own countries. London no longer be majority white in a few years, for example.

[Anonymous No.11078978]

>>11078632
Literally every successful civilization ever is a patriarchy.
All the matriarcal societies are some native american or african communities that have been stuck at fire discovery level for 100 thousand years.
The patriarchy is good for humanity, as women are generally incompetent leaders and thinkers, with a few exceptions.

[Anonymous No.11078988]

No, there is in fact a whole field of math that has to do with politics source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea99nKX9GvE

[Anonymous No.11079006]

>>11078988
gametheory? game theory isn't about politics but it can be applied to most things in life.

[Anonymous No.11079089]

>>11078005

>should people be apolitical?

[Anonymous No.11079096]

>>11078978

>t. unfulfilled individual

So how come computing power increase correlates with female empowerment and civil rights?

[Anonymous No.11079104]

>>11078043
> wow so mind cucked
> he should follow my version of cucking instead

[Anonymous No.11079111]

>>11078005
OP, you should definitely keep quiet about your political opinions. Don't even vote.

[Anonymous No.11079130]

>>11079006
Its not just game theory but the fact that game theory and other theories of math can be applied to politics means that obviously science should not be neutral it goes against what we know about this stuff.

[Anonymous No.11079539]

>>11079096
Kek

[Anonymous No.11079549]

>>11078043
t. Teddy

[Anonymous No.11079550]

You can´t be apolitical, even if you say you are apolitical on your own, you are a political subject per se

[Anonymous No.11079693]

>>11078558
Those are just retarded sjws, not biologists.

[Anonymous No.11081117]

bump?

[Anonymous No.11081192]

>>11078005
Would smash either the one with the red pullover or the blonde at the bottom right.
The girl with big glasses has a cute face too

[El Arcón No.11081200]

>>11078005
Every person in that picture should be killed, and the men should be boiled and left to rot in the street and die of infection after their skin comes off and they shit on themselves while they lie there.

[Anonymous No.11081201]

>>11078049
Political science is just fancy for polls they don’t learn about public policy

[Anonymous No.11081203]

>>11081200
weren’t you all for the Occupy movement? i thought all of them became hardcore anti-“patriarchy” SJWs? no?

[Anonymous No.11081217]

>>11081192
anon, i know you crave top right. quit your cope

[Anonymous No.11081226]

>>11078111
>>11078133
>being this fuckin new

[Anonymous No.11081235]

>>11081226
explain it then, what does “” cool_ice_learning”” mean?

[Anonymous No.11081250]

starting from front left, then moving to back left
>3
>5
>6
>8

[Anonymous No.11081400]

>>11078043
Notice how the more attractive girls are not wearing the t-shirts while the ugly ones are