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11063588 No.11063588 [Reply] [Original]

Redpill me on Chaos Theory

>> No.11063596

>>11063588
Why does your chaos phallus have a flexible joint in the middle?

>> No.11063605
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>>11063588
There are good reasons why humans' capacity to control the development of their societies has failed to progress. In order to control the development of a society you would have to be able to predict how the society would react to any given action you might take, and such predictions have generally proven to be highly unreliable. Human societies are complex systems-technologically advanced societies are most decidedly complex-and prediction of the behavior of complex systems presents difficulties that are not contingent on the present state of our knowledge or our level of technological development.

Unintended consequences [are] a well-known problem with the design and use of technology. The cause of many [unintended consequences] seems clear: The systems involved are complex, involving interaction among and feedback between many parts. Any changes to such a system will cascade in ways that are difficult to predict; this is especially true when human actions are involved.

Problems in economics can give us some idea of how impossibly difficult it would be to predict or control the behavior of a system as complex as that of a modern human society. It is convincingly argued that a modern economy can never be rationally planned to maximize efficiency, because the task of carrying out such planning would be too overwhelmingly complex. Calculation of a rational system of prices for the U.S. economy alone would require manipulation of a conservatively estimated 6xl013 (sixty trillion!) simultaneous equations. That takes into account only the economic factors involved in establishing prices and leaves out the innumerable psychological, sociological, political, etc., factors that continuously interact with the economy.

>> No.11063608
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>>11063605
Even if we make the wildly improbable assumption that the behavior of our society could be predicted through the manipulation of, say, a million trillion simultaneous equations and that sufficient computing power to conduct such manipulation were available, collection of the data necessary for insertion of the appropriate numbers into the equations would be impracticable, especially since the data would have to meet impossibly high standards of precision if the predictions were expected to remain valid over any considerable interval of time. Edward Lorenz, a meteorologist, was the first to call widespread attention to the fact that even the most minute inaccuracy in the data provided can totally invalidate a prediction about the behavior of a complex system. This fact came to be called the "butterfly effect" because in 1972, at a meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, Lorenz gave a talk that he titled "Predictability: Does the Flap of a Butterfly's Wings in Brazil Set Off a Tornado in Texas?" Lorenz's work is said to have been the inspiration for the development of what is called "chaos theory" -the butterfly effect being an example of "chaotic" behavior.

>> No.11063610

>>11063605
TL;DR

>> No.11063612

>>11063608
>>11063605
Then limit your inferential feedback, dipshit, instead of writing long and drawn out explanations just so you can make someone's brain-dick all hot and horny for ya.

>> No.11063615

ITT: Look at how retractable I am as a problem!

>> No.11063624

neither chaotic nor random behaviour exist. these are just approximations that are made when not enough is known about the system

>> No.11063642

>>11063624
Well, I enjoy direct female sexual interest and conversational partners that love taking turns with intense qualia∆quanta differentials.

That's my system.

>> No.11063651

>>11063588
What chaotic about that gif? Its entirely calculable.

>> No.11063707

>>11063651
>Its entirely calculable
That's the whole point

>> No.11063713

>>11063707
Oh ok, you can delete the thread now.

>> No.11063716

>>11063713
>>11063624
You don't know what 'chaotic' means

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>>11063716
HOLD MY FUCKING BEER!

>> No.11063748
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>>11063651
Chaos = Carry the 1

>PHEW! THIS MATH SHIT IS HARD! CAN I FUCK MY DAUGHTER AGAIN NOW?! SERIOUSLY? EVEN IN PUBLIC! MAN I LOVE THE 4CHAN JUSTICE SYSTEM!

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ITT: Chaos theorists can't into category theory

>> No.11063753

>>11063745
>SoliFagus
Knew it.

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>>11063753
Dear God,

I would fucking LOVE it if in some confused angry straight male's mind they killed me violently because they presumed I was homosexual, despite having a biological daughter that I intend to fuck in public one day with everyone cheering me on.

Signed,
Solivagus