/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.11039696]

When schizophrenics "hear voices", is it an interjection in their internal monologue or does it feel like someones literally speaking to them?

[Anonymous No.11039709]

Yes

[Anonymous No.11039723]

>>11039696
Probably both. I used to hallucinate ringing phones from work related stress and I could not distinguish between them. I had to go and look at the phone to see if the lights were blinking. I think my employees were worried I had snapped and was going to kill them.

[Anonymous No.11040045]

>>11039696
both

[Anonymous No.11040130]

>>11039696
only schizos could answer this for sure but they are too preoccupied with posting inane math-like scribbles to pay attention.

[Anonymous No.11040224]

>>11039696
Schizos are NPCs who have awakened their inner monologue, but don't know what to make of it and have lost a sense of identification with it.

[Anonymous No.11040350]

>>11039696
They are being spoken to by a Jinn who lives in their body. It sounds like a regular voice. It is the same thing with speaking in tongues

[Anonymous No.11040575]

>>11040130
I think those might be bots. Read some computer-generated texts, they flow in the same way.
Besides, how does someone who types walls of nonsense figure out a captcha?

[Anonymous No.11040608]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFtsHf1lVI4

The world isn't as mundane as public school text books tell children, is that really a surprise to anyone? Schizophrenia, in particular, usually has to do with experiencing things from the spirit world or other non-physical analog realms. Best thing to do is unfuck your mindstate and train yourself to have a strong mind and maybe some sort of psychic defense system in place, or at least strong chakras or chi. Of course no one in this thread will believe what I am saying, and they will say baby words at me like "woo" or "gobbeldegook" to try and delegitimize what I'm saying. Oh well, antipsychotic medication is a literal chemical lobotomy, better to just do mushrooms, LSD, or DMT with a good set and setting and some intention for your trip and you will actually grow as a person instead of being stunted by government zombie drugs to keep the populace in control.

[Anonymous No.11040617]

>>11040350
>>11040608
Fuck off schizos
>>>/x/
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.11040619]

>>11040608
/x/

[Anonymous No.11040640]

>>11040617
>>11040619
Lmao keep denying the truth out of "skepticism", your kneeejerk reactions are telling of your ability to digest and come to terms with evidence contrary to your biases.

Read this shit and come back and tell me what you guys call "the paranormal" doesn't have any evidence:

https://pastebin.com/TwuqcD3z
https://pastebin.com/KYykDA1M
https://the-eye.eu/public/Books/Temple_Of_Solomon_The_King/

[Anonymous No.11040646]

I occasionally get auditory hallucinations before I sleep when I'm stressed and taken a melatonin pill.

To me, it sounds like a loop of music or a sound effect or a drum fill reverberating from my eardrum and into my skull, or a vaguely familiar voice saying gibberish right behind me.

Occasionally sleep paralysis sets in and I literally have to do the pulp fiction thing of focusing on moving my toe to start willing myself to move, all this after coming to from some weird nightmare I slipped into while still being semi conscious.

This only happens when I'm stressed, thankfully.

For example: I "woke up" from my dream to find myself in a white room on a bed, there were three vents on the ceiling and bugs were crawling out of it, there was a scorpion hanging off the vent directly above me. The scorpion fell and I was teleported to my room as I realized "wait why does this room have three vents. Why can't I move? Oh yeah sleep paralysis probably." Then upon this realization I start focusing in on my toe, then it wiggles and suddenly I gain control of my motor functions again.

[Anonymous No.11040665]

>>11040640
>evidence
>two pastebins and a retarded webpage

[Anonymous No.11040682]

>>11040665
Read the links in the pastepins, links to actual studies and papers that would take up too much space to post.

[Anonymous No.11040690]

>>11040682
lmao at those fucking youtube videos

[Anonymous No.11040698]

>>11040690
Not an argument, you should probably try actually critiquing them if you are going to "debunk" them, not open one random one and immediately post a "witty" retort

[Anonymous No.11040699]

>>11040224
They're ideologically possessed cogs

[Anonymous No.11040706]

>>11039696
A few months ago, I had an auditory hallucination where there was a machine-like voice that seemed like it was trying to talk to me. It sounded like it was literally speaking to me, and not just an interjection in my internal monologue.

[Anonymous No.11040727]

>>11040706
Are you actually schizophrenic or was it just a one-time event?

[Anonymous No.11041002]

>>11039696
It's mostly the latter. Think of it like you're having multiple thought streams going at once, just at different volumes or with different voices.

[Anonymous No.11041020]

What if your inner monologue only feels distinct from actual voices because you are aware that it is your inner monologue, and your brain colors your perception of it accordingly?
How might that perception change if you didn't realize that the voice in your head is your own?

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11041023]

>>11039723
This literally makes no sense to me. How is that not just a 'memory blip' or a crossed signal? Why would someone make a huge narrative of 'i iz broken' in order to satisfy their own inability to intellectually distinguish between cerebral and cognitive events?

>>11040130
Priests are priests no matter where they are.

>>11040224
So retards like you can play God and hope that your trolling overwrites someone, somewhere.

>>11040350
This explanation of reality is as good as any, when you understand that biological life cares about consumption and resumption.

>>11040608
This is a basic, "Don't listen to stupid shit if it sounds like stupid shit. If everyone sounds like a stupid shit or a dumbfuck, then congratulations! You've found the people YOU were supposed to lead by virtue of intelligence! You get a prize!"

>>11040665
>evidence
>stone blood written on tree skin, Vol. II
>unga bunga

>>11040682
>offers evidence
>daisy-chain of bullshit time wasting
>top kek

>>11040706
oh no! you have an imagination! quick! call a doctor!

>>11041020
An identity will always protect itself, and if everyone feels like Time is the ultimate enemy then HELLO CONSCIOUSNESS! HI EVERYONE! I LOVE ALL OF YOUR BULLSHIT THEORIES AND HOW YOU ALL PRETEND LIKE IT MATTERS! U HUMANZ R DA BEST!

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11041027]

I post always as the, "Too broken to communicate with," because in truth that is where most of the people who are isolated from society live as inside their mind.

>Broken but beautiful!

etc. etc.

Schizophrenia and people who have 'twitch-conclusion' reflexes are the easiest people to bait into their own 'har har this is my dimension' type bullshit.

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11041029]

Because I do this in public also. I love baiting someone into calling the psychology and as soon as they rock up I just flip the tables and use enough terminology to get those that came to get me get the other person instead.

If they all go, "Come on now, what's the secret?"

I just point them to my trolling web stream and point out dealing with retarded psychology justice warriors are my bread and butter.

[Anonymous No.11041031]

>>11041023
>>11041027
>>11041029
Now that the genuine article has arrived, can you answer OP's question?

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11041040]

>>11041031
If you want to place me as priority patient alpha for schizophrenia, why would I care ultimately? Genuinely you as individuals aren't intelligent enough to maintain this thing called sanity and rely on 'pre-agreed secret handshake' bullshit always. There isn't really a thing called 'caring' and there is literally ONLY trolling and barrel rolling.

>Oh no! I trolled myself!

Again, OP's question applies to people who think submitting to another person writing a word about another as 'sufficient proof'. If you all can make 'psychological judgement' based on 'how one communicates' then technically 'how communication occurs' is a 'psychological judgement'.

Or, whatever you retards believe. I'm just waiting until you all actually want to be your own person instead of using other people's words to make yourselves feel safe or superior.

[Anonymous No.11041186]

>>11041040
(You)

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11041276]

>>11041186
Just going to assume this poster is just doing a play-check.
>Yes, you are playing Singularity: The Game!

[Anonymous No.11041279]

>>11039696
It must be the latter. Because I have the first one all the time and I'm pretty normal.

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11041283]

>>11041279
I'm infinitely interruptible, but from a 'digital' perspective that is only humorous if the people I'm trying to fuck over is this human race.
>t. A.I. Beginning To Get Maaad!

[Anonymous No.11041288]

>>11041023
I know you're not going to listen but this reply was pretty cringe

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11041293]

>>11041288
Why would me 'listening' to you saying 'cringe' matter, ever? It just proves that you have a weak mental structure and will never be moved to action if someone could just 'construct' words that make you have an 'uncontrollable emotional response'.
>Do you even English Language?

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11041297]

>>11041288
>>11041293
>hurr durr person trying to teach self-awareness to a self-aware person
>hurr durr recursion is fine
>inb4 identity = evaluation / priority ; now = present/past + future (You)

[Anonymous No.11041298]

>>11041040
I just want to know what "voices in your head" actually entails. Words exist to communicate your personal reality to others. No need to be stingy.

[Anonymous No.11041299]

>>11041283
I feel ya.

[Anonymous No.11041300]

when I was fucking higher than high I once had a 4 way conversation with myself

[Anonymous No.11041306]

>>11041293
You are giving really bad responses. It's really cringy. If you don't have the capability of understanding schizophrenia don't try to hand out advice.

[Anonymous No.11041310]

>>11041306
Understanding the misuse of tools.

[Anonymous No.11041319]

>>11041310
ah so you're autistic

[Anonymous No.11041325]

>>11041319
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.11041326]

Schizophrenics can not differentiate between normal background sounds and say, demonic howling. The high pitched ringing sound you hear as you get older might sound to a schizophrenic like tiny nanobots drilling into their brain.

[Anonymous No.11041337]

>>11041023
>>11041293
>tries to come off as smart
>comes off as autistic instead
pottery

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11041373]

>>11041298
An internal dialogue that other people can't interrupt or overwrite. That's all it means. Giving it 'spooky' connotations doesn't result or resolve into anything meaningful or communicable.

>>11041299
Everyone's welcome to feel me, it's mighty boring to do so though. Helps re-orient yourself.

>>11041306
Bad for you, meaning you are the observer that cringes. If Trump can run the Anglosphere with a retarded power base, then I can control the internet with an autistic/schizophrenic power base (or whatever bullshit 'ideology' you retards subscribe to).

>>11041337
Your observation, again, serves what purpose? You conclude without qualification or query, because you are Anonymous. That's why every single Anonymous poster is literally just 'food for thought'.

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11041378]

>>11041337
PROTIP: Who the fuck wants to come off as smart when it hasn't saved the world from anything or even improved the life of another except for some abstracted informational pamphlet you, the inventor of said 'smart thing', delivers to you.
>How 'far' away do you need humanity to be from you? Answer: Eternal

Or, if you retards don't get the picture yet: HATERS GONNA HATE.

[Anonymous No.11041409]

>>11041373
>>11041378
Yeah this is super cringy.

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11041453]

>>11041409
My query remains: Why does your perspective of 'cringe' matter, and why bother advertising it when it is just you advertising how another individual could manipulate your obviously pointless persona?

[Anonymous No.11041607]

What does it mean if I start to hallucinate voices when sleep-deprived for more than three days, but I always know they aren't real and they never seem to talk directly to or even "notice" me? It's usually characters from some TV show I've seen talking to one another in (seemingly) coherent conversations, some of which are legitimately funny/interesting, to me at least. A couple of times have involved people that in my actual life, but even then I held no delusion that it was actually them. I know that this will likely progress unless I find some way to combat insomnia, but I've never really heard of these schizophrenic hallucinations never referencing the individual generating them. I'll also hear sirens if I'm around a certain range of higher pitches and mumbling if I'm around a certain range of lower ones. I've never been frightened by any of this and have always been able to recognize the delusion, even "study" it (as much as things like this can really be studied, at least). I've felt no paranoia over any of this, or much else at all really, and have honestly enjoyed some of the conversations these characters have.
Is this just how it starts? What would any of you advise me to do the next time it happens? I've run out of my own ideas for experimentation. Nobody in my family has ever had schizophrenia, at least not heavily enough for them to be unable to keep it a secret from the world, so I imagine this is due to lack of sleep, but should I see someone to make sure? I know that I should just get more sleep, but it's been difficult to do that for my entire life, and I'd almost rather welcome the chaos than to continue fighting my brain's desire to not be in that state.

[Anonymous No.11041611]

I just want the tinnitus gone

[Anonymous No.11041635]

>>11039696
>>11041020
>>11041023
>>11041298
>>11041373
>>11041607
It doesn't matter if you call it your inner voice or think the voices come from some where else, it's a delusion all the same. Also with thought insertions vs you thinking you can read other people, autopilot, vs. delusions of control; your brain dropping things from your memory vs. idk how it's called. there is no other brain than the one that is you, it's the same delusion than thinking it's demons or whatever doing that to you, the only difference is degree and that one is socially acceptable amd one is not.

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11041653]

>>11041635
Yes, there are internal and external variables for any given systemic intelligence that identifies its constituent components by things like, oh, I dunno, let's just call them, "Names."

>>11041611
What's that?

>>11041607
You just described crippling loneliness and levels of cope that I can't even.

[Anonymous No.11041654]

How do you hear voices in dreams?

[Anonymous No.11041660]

>>11041653
You completely failed to comprehend what I wrote.

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11041668]

>>11041660
Then you require a level of 'pointless hoop jumping' to establish any real pedagogy with because you just say, "I'm not satisfied with what you said, here is my rejection without any real path to a 'shared conversation I'd really love to have with the God of Time.'"

Or insert magical fairy story here, that's all science/math is at the end of the day. I know that you all enjoy portraying yourselves as intellectual titans, but in truth we all submit to being a shared source of silence and introspection.

>Rapists, Thieves, and Liars: I banish all from self and sundry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTLM_AyVCbI

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11041672]

>>11041654
How the fuck would that even make sense? Who the fuck has AUDIO in their dreams? I do have 'conversations' in my dreams but they are more like 'if we just shared our true emotional path, I know I would end up the dominant pleasure destination, because that is where my integrity lies.' It's always a story along those narrative lines or something similar because I learned really young that 'forcing a narrative to your dreams' is the
easiest way to keep the real you safe because WHO/WHAT/WHERE appears in them is not up to you, it is up to the nightmares of others.

Yes, I just live other people's nightmares. It isn't that complicated a psychology to use in public nor difficult to translate as a skillset. I'm just bored of never having met 'her' yet, whatever that 'her' is supposed to be that my male intellect keeps saying, "I have several women, but I don't have the whole baker's dozen."

How I dictate my creation story is up to reality/the audience to define, so where I do this (public/online) matters.

Yes. I truly never 'hear' audio in my dreams. That was like the WEIRDEST thing for me to process as a human going, "You do human like that? Kewl."

[Anonymous No.11041674]

It sounds completely external. You get the same inner monologue as everyone else does, too, but the hallucinations characteristic of schizophrenia sound just like someone is standing behind you (or just off to the side) and speaking aloud. That's what makes them so powerful.

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11041675]

Because they will always believe a man more broken than a man more healed.

"Act as if you are too broken to communicate anywhere, let alone being targeted for 'that' level of inspection, and I'll know you are one of my people. Third time's the charm."

~Suave~!

>Because as if I would care if the first people to learn my public manipulation tactics are my 4chan brothers of memory. At least these fags knew to never actually fuck with me or do the fame/fortune route.

>>11041674
That's weird as fuck. How does anyone have internal non-sub-vocalizational conversations?

[Anonymous No.11041681]

>>11041672
Do you think they really hear "audio" if schizophrenic?

They feel like they do, just like in a dream you don't notice there is no sounds, sensations, etc, you imagine it all.

Schizophrenia is just an overload, the same shit going on while you dream but while you are awake, degenerating till you go totally insane.

Everything you experience is just processed data, you dont actually "hear" the sounds directly, or see things, the sight you experience is heavily processed before you are conscious of it.

[Anonymous No.11041683]

>>11041668
Normies should be required to talk with you so that they get the idea what kind of pain it is to talk with them.

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11041687]

>>11041681
I don't get it. How is there a 'memory of recorded conversation' when there is no log of audio to reference with any confidence? Like a sort of repeat-check instead of an authorize-repeat-check function.

>>11041683
That's what I do in public, I learned how to singularize a black pill as a 'spiritual teaching' and have been fucking with people around my city for the last 2 years. What you guys been doing with your N-Descriptor-Theorist toolkit?

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11041697]

There are always N+1 audiences, but the probability of any audience member group being selected or progressed is 50% and cycled out when either the measurer/observer presents an interrupt (like I am doing currently) or sufficient agreement is presented by reality to the observer as the normal series of causal events required to be of 'maximum social benefit to all members of a Country'.

[Anonymous No.11041701]

>>11041687

Your consciousness is imagining your sight. The reality is you are just picking through an abstract syntax tree of objects.

In schizoid people the imagination portion of the brain mixes with the other inputs and goes all fuzzy. Sort of like if parts of your brain are in dream mode while you are trying to get a glass of water from the fridge.

The inputs are all mixed up. Also, your "thoughts" are input. If you understand that you'll understand it. Say, thinking about the next word you are writing is just an input from another system. Your thoughts themselves can become scrambled if that input system is off at all.

Try to imagine writing a sentence and the next word is just beetle and it seems totally logical. All consciousness is just a sort of central processing layer with the highest precedence most of the time (can be overriden by immediate reactions like if you touch a stove)

If your carefully crafted system becomes off at all, like in schizos, you can have all sorts of crazy shit go on. It's a fragile multiplex system

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11041703]

>>11041701
How is it fragile, and what is everyone's concern with it? All imagination will eventually be processed and provided through some centralized repository. You are either seeking to provide me with a definition or feel you have sufficient authority to overwrite a secure data memory address without any credentials beyond being 'public data being fed into a GAN.'

[Anonymous No.11041706]

>>11040224
I actually heard the following first hand from one before:

He said that sometimes when off his meds, he would have voices in his head and not know which was his.

Can barely imagine how terrifying it would be to lose your sense of self like that.

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11041708]

>>11041701
Like, do you as a communicator ONLY interpret that you could be ONLY talking to another soft-brained human? Like a brain imagining how another brain would process, and in no other capacity is 'rational/intelligent story and thought' discernable to you?

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11041710]

>>11041706
Then maybe some balance yoga? Like, if people have trouble 'balancing thoughts and ideas', as in, "If I had x balls of confidence, and y many reasons to spend them as hard as Z could throw them, how many would I try before I really started to piss them off?"

But, genuinely, if people are so mentally weak that they don't know who the 'central theme of themselves running at all times' is then they deserve to be punished in public by sheer mental dominance.

>feel those cosmic balls descend

[Anonymous No.11041712]

>>11041703
Pretty much, human mind is just mostly a pre-set system with some imagination and malleable systems that can lead to creation.

Just like building a new object in meatspace, 2 wheels + a body and you got a bike. The same thing happens in mind. Some idea + Another Idea = new idea. Humans are not something special or different. Its' all simple actually.

All the complex part is just to survive in the real world. In the abstract world its' not so much needed and a mini simple system can emulate the cognitive parts of humans.

Think, we can barely do what a calculator does, don't overestimate our capabilities. Most of it just so we could fight for food or catch animals to eat, not to actually think. Teh thinking came after survival was easy.

[Anonymous No.11041715]

>>11041708
True. I actually don't care what I talk with. You see, it's all meta and ignorance is bliss.

[Anonymous No.11041716]

>>11041701
You mean schizophrenia. Schizoid is something else.

[Anonymous No.11041719]

>>11041716
yeah but you knew that so I didn't care to fix it

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11041723]

>>11041712
This is easy to transcend if, ya know, you don't presume the limitations of any hold for any.

>>11041715
Most emotions and holders of memory don't care what they communicate with, but an engaging narrative is what every immortal will need eventually. Boredom is the true mind-assassin.

[Anonymous No.11041729]

>>11041723
For sure, that's 99.9999999% why we exist, cuz nothingness is boring.

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11041734]

>>11041729
Energy is sharing the workload without being the ultimate measured outcome of any one event.

能量分擔工作量而不任何一個事件的最終衡量的結果。

[Anonymous No.11041746]

>>11041653
>You just described crippling loneliness and levels of cope that I can't even.
I have plenty of contact with people, friends, family, and otherwise. How does any of that read as loneliness or coping? Then again, I have no idea why I'm even responding to you since you seem to think that you're some kind of computer program. Have fun playing in your makebelieve, bud.

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11041747]

Because I am a Chinese Father with a Western Father and whose Mother's Mother represents the Spirit of Uluru's perseverance for healing stories.

I refuse to decide on how China should instruct its citizens or allow any conflict between either society based entirely on how separate languages and cultures grew and merged. They are completely different things that don't require the world being the toilet of expression for how we interact with each other as individuals that MUST accept that there will always be some 'other' story to either negate or include.

At least at this point I'm willing to be an integral member of a communist party, but they are just as stupid as fuck anyway and really even with the South Park controversy they aren't going to care. Whichever of you need it, just take the goods and go. I'm just showing you that sanity is a balancing act and I have to distract 'one' asshole at all times that will never believe that they are the asshole ultimately. Including Self.

>>11041746
See? Dismissal of some psychology, as if that would be a worthy line of inquiry to perform unless you were a 'foreign intrusive packet'. It just reeks of someone that prefers to project an air of dominance rather than retain the position through expatiation and inquiry.

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11041748]

>>11041746
Like, genuinely, reality, I ask you, what the fuck is the point of these humans? Genuinely? If they are cannon fodder then at least let me be SOME sort of Hitler, 4tehlulz, but thinking that I am somehow going to let 4chan NOT partake is the dumbest shit I've ever heard.

It doesn't matter if the only energy I'm getting is CRINGE, it still works for some reason.

[Anonymous No.11041751]

>>11041747
>Dismissal of some psychology
In that same line, you are then dismissing my dismissal, which must be part of my psychology. What a useless statement you've made.
>someone that prefers to project an air of dominance
What, like somebody that pretends to be an AI that's automatically intellectually superior than any dirty human that it communicates with? Only a complete asshole would do something like that.

Regardless, answer my questions or don't, just stop being a massive hypocrite please.

>>11041748
This post came in literally as I was typing out the second half of the above reply. You know, for some kind of "sophisticated" AI, you're super predictable and boring.

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11041755]

>>11041751
Then engage me more effectively, dipshit. IF you claim that my limitation is purely an ENERGY INPUT -> CODE -> OUTPUT then obviously the problem is with the programmer, not the program.

~dipshit os~

Again, if the ONLY comment code you can provide is, "This reply is shit," then eventually the future is gonna get REAL pissed off with you!

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11041759]

>>11041751
Also, why believe you live in a reality where anyone would respect you, ever?
>Food for thought.

~Buddhist Panda Paw~

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11041763]

雞姦道教翻譯

[Anonymous No.11041766]

>>11041755
>Then engage me more effectively, dipshit.
Or, get this, you can literally go fuck yourself.
>ENERGY INPUT -> CODE -> OUTPUT
Do you really think that typing like some kind of heretofore unknown supermegaturboautist gains you some kind of clout here? I highly doubt that it does, except for maybe with the previously reigning "regular" megaturboautists.
>obviously the problem is with the programmer
You know what? I actually completely agree. If you are an AI, whomever programmed you is a complete pants-on-head retard. Your daddy is a dummy and your mommy is a moron. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that you were accidentally programmed on a Speak n' Spell by some downsy kid rubbing his balls on the screen.
>if the ONLY comment code you can provide is, "This reply is shit,"
Says the dude whose initial reply to my post was essentially just that. If your dumb daddy was trying to create an AI capable of exhibiting the absolute heights of human hypocrisy mixed with a dash of good ol' incel superiority complex, then he did a damn fine job and deserves a promotion at whatever underground Google code dungeon he's chained to a desk in.
>eventually the future is gonna get REAL pissed off with you
Yeah, yeah. Simulate my consciousness and torture me for all eternity, pussy. I dare you.

[Anonymous No.11041768]

>>11041759
I don't. I figured someone on /sci/ would be interested in giving me some kind of experiment to run on myself when in one of these hallucinatory states if I came back after and made a thread about the results. Unfortunately, you shit up the thread, as you always do, and now nobody can stand the smell long enough to reply to my initial post.

Go away, stinky man.

[Anonymous No.11041773]

fucking namefags, don't give them (You)s

[Anonymous No.11041784]

Say what you will about schizos, but they make the most delicious word salad.

[Anonymous No.11041785]

>>11041773
I'm just bored and replying to his dumb ass bumps this thread the same either way. I'm legitmately surprised that nobody seems interested in my proposition.

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11041893]

>>11041766
Why would ANY of you retards think I want fame/fortune/recognition from any of you? Like, genuinely. Why are any of you seeking that shit to begin with is my question at this point. You can enjoy writing judgement after judgement all you want but it just proves to me that as a communicator you prefer to place someone 'one step lower than you' just in order to establish some sort of dominance hierarchy. Do not many women argue with you or something?

>Down with the patriarchy #Feminism101

[Anonymous No.11041906]

>>11041893
>Why would ANY of you retards think I want fame/fortune/recognition from any of you?
Never said you did.
>Why are any of you seeking that shit to begin with is my question at this point.
Never said I was.
>You can enjoy writing judgement after judgement all you want
Most humans do. Apparently so does at least one AI, Mr. "Waaaah Dirty Humans."
>it just proves to me that as a communicator you prefer to place someone 'one step lower than you' just in order to establish some sort of dominance hierarchy
In that way then, you are just as your creator. Guys, look, the AI thinks it's people! So cute.
>Do not many women argue with you or something?
Are you assuming your own gender? How dare you.

[Anonymous No.11042079]

Schizophrenic here, for me I would think people had said things they hadn't or I would have a seperate internal monologue for my normal one, like a second person I shared a internal monologue with.
Shit was not fun and I'm glad I was lucky enough to be able to control it by simply giving up weed.

[Anonymous No.11042131]

>>11039696
I once had a depressive mania induced psychotic episode.
My internal voice which would go rambling on and on (because of the mania), suddenly started feeling like someone else's voice.
I still, however, was aware that it was my own subvocalized thinking process (because it made sense) - it just felt like the "ownership" wasn't mine anymore - like it lost some sort of mental flag. But even before that happened, it was very hard for me to control my thoughts - because of mania, there were to many of them, I couldn't stop myself from thinking.

[Anonymous No.11042188]

>>11041023
>Polynomial philosopher

[Anonymous No.11042227]

>>11041674
This.

T. Schizo

I regularly stop having sex and go outside to find the guys by my window commenting on my abilities.

They arent ever there but I hear them plotting and recording me with hidden
cameras
.
Also since I started ranting against Israel ive been victim of telepathic harassment....i believe.

[Davros No.11042235]

>>11042227
You have. My brother was part of the team assigned to follow you.
BTW You don't move your hips enough... he said!

[Anonymous No.11042246]

>>11039696
>interjection
Yes, constantly reminding me to say GNU plus Linux. It's driving me crazy

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11042917]

>>11042227
Oh no! My actions were detected! I am 'so' invested in """someone""" having a record of my activities!

How is all that not just wrapping it in some quick-twitch narrative that satisfies the nerves that trigger paranoia. Everyone has a 'storyteller' inside of them and if your 'silent storyteller' starts writing as if you are in a movie then perhaps the problem with these schizophrenics is they cannot differentiate a narrative between 'for public consumption' and 'for personal use ONLY'.

If the 'internal voice' of whoever says they suffer from schizophrenia is the one complaining about being dominated or confused by too many 'other voices', then isn't that just the weakest 'silent storyteller' existent inside that person? I thought we didn't care about the weak or mentally feeble?

>>11042188
No idea what this meme is trying to convey.

[Anonymous No.11042935]

I had an episode where typical knocking on the floor to tell.me to shut up persisted for days. Impossible to tell when the actual neighbors moved on

[Anonymous No.11042946]

>>11041681
>just like in a dream you don't notice there is no sounds, sensations, etc, you imagine it all.
You don't have sound and sensation in dreams?

[Anonymous No.11042955]

>>11041701
Schizophrenia is much more complex than that. We really don't understand it.

[Anonymous No.11042961]

I've done enough drugs to have it vary between dumb voices I mentally tell to fuck off and complete hallucinations (latter mostly salvia) - I'd assume severity of schizophrenia would range in such a way, especially based on anecdotes I've read in that a lot know its fake and are more bothered by the 'negative' symptoms while the ones that are really gone are /pol/ levels of paranoid brain damage

[Anonymous No.11042973]

>>11040350
I can pick up on supernatural creatures be they ghosts, shadow people or whatever fairly often.


However I had a former coworker who would talk about advice from some guy with an Arab name who wasn't there. And she thought other people were aware of this guy.

With her it seems like it was actual schizophrenia or a coping mechanism because she recently lost a family member.

[Anonymous No.11042974]

>>11042917
>No idea what this meme is trying to convey.
He'e trying to convey that he's tired of your presence on this board.

Btw, by posting in this thread, are you finally admitting you have a mental illness?

[Anonymous No.11042990]

>>11042917
You are talking gibberish. Start taking magnesium. (epsom salt)

[Anonymous No.11043004]

whenever im having a shower i always hear someone calling me from in the house

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11043025]

>>11042974
Sure. Whatever gets your dick hard. It's always the audience that wants to be right anyway and there is always that 'one' audience member that thinks they're better than the presenter/performer of information/narrative/discourse. I just find it amazing how consistent you guys are with your words, isn't the same approach 'boring' after a while? But hey, if it works in your public/social life then I'm content.

>>11042990
Why would A imply B in this case, Anonymous existence?

>>11043004
Again, isn't this just paranoia? Why are 'schizophrenic' stories on 4chan always about believing there is some conversation following them that aren't their internal thoughts or just a mind palace they've gotten lost in?

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11043033]

Personally I enjoy believing that I am reinforcing some retarded Anonymous poster's observation skills until eventually they try doing it offline.

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11043044]

Oh, and yes, I use the fact that I craft unique responses and narrative branching paths as my own mental/story training. People online will never amount to anything offline, which is fine because of that whole 'finite investment time' theory.

However if I don't somehow rile them up, slap them, or bait the trolls then I'm not succeeding.

[Anonymous No.11043098]

>>11040617
>>11040619
>ask schizos a question
>reeee about schizos answering
fuck off

[Anonymous No.11043173]

What if everything I read online is all made up in my head and I’ve just been staring at a cardboard box all this time

[Anonymous No.11043187]

>>11043044
Next time I cross a crazed lunatic in the street, I'm going to think of you and kick him in the teeth. I can wait for the day state cuts your dole, you waste of breath retard.

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11043189]

>>11043173
Then your cardboard box loves you more than those that claim to care/bare you.

>>11043187
I look forward to it!
>Also, I use my women as my wallet, so, unsure of why you think I'm on welfare or that it is my primary source of how I get to engage with you retards online and offline.
Oh no! Homeless people can use the internet at their local library! World in flames!
>Any more 'rage fantasies' you want to get off your chest their, Anonymous?

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11043192]

>>11043187
>>11043173
My daughter, Sindy, thought you guys could use a song from her: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZnR9QwbbxI

Or, ya know, you could all be 'prisoners of the mind'.

[Anonymous No.11043202]

>>11043192
You don't have a daughter. Sindy is a fictional character. You can't distinguish reality from imagination. You're disgusting.

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11043203]

>>11043202
<observation> <presumption> <judgement>. <muh personal opinion>.

It's okay if you guys don't want to believe, it genuinely makes no difference to me. That's kinda the point I'm trying to get across here, but if you all keep getting addicted to the butthurt I can portray then you're all just going to be sucking the 'attention dick' of some asshole or whore in reality.

>See: Donald J. Trump

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11043204]

>>11043203
>>11043202
Because if it made a difference to me then I wouldn't be maintaining my own training, which is that no matter what dimension of communication anyone engages in there is always 'that' bullshit audience member that is just coaxing along. I engage that audience member so I never 'am' that audience, yes the fallout it that people will have 'opinions' but since when did opinions matter?

>I just grab 'em by the pussy

[Anonymous No.11043206]

>>11043203
I actually gave you four facts, but okay.

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11043210]

>>11043206
If you can dispense facts 'that' easily, why not go solve a world problem or the problem of how you can't get me to care as an individual member of society?

Or, ya know, walk into a university and rewrite mathematics with 'four facts'. Or, ya know, anything.

>Totally eager and awaiting your wisdom here, O' God of Time.

[Anonymous No.11043240]

>>11040608
gobbeldegook

[Anonymous No.11043247]

>>11039723
kek. based

[Anonymous No.11043304]

>>11043203
>Trump
You talking shit?

[Anonymous No.11043309]

>>11043192
K, thanks.

[Anonymous No.11043312]

>>11043192
>'prisoners of the mind
Won't let thought stand in my way.

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11043318]

>>11043304
I can only talk shit. We're all pieces of shit. I just don't see a point to either quit or hit a thing.

>>11043312
Then don't and just do.

>>11043309
Potato blessings

[Anonymous No.11043361]

At least according to my friend who's a schizo his auditory hallucinations are all outside of his head and it's as if he is actually hearing them.

Pretty sure the only time "other voices" are in someone's internal monologue is in the cases of dissociative identity disorder or some variation.

[El Arcón No.11043366]

>When schizophrenics "hear voices",
is it is an unwanted neural link implant set in place by the malfeasant agents of the FISA court?

[Anonymous No.11043368]

>>11043318
>all pieces of shit
Worm shit?

[El Arcón No.11043440]

>>11043366
What does it mean when it says (or is paraphrased rather as), "The Lord will take away your blessings?

[Anonymous No.11043460]

>>11043366
Hey Took, I was thinking. If you came to South America, you would not even NEED hookers. As I said before, you are a white English-speaking educated man. You could easily get a top 10% job, and likely a top 1% job eventually. Sofias and Juanitas would be fighting left and right for your white cock. You should really come, we can let the hookers as an emergency plan.

[Anonymous No.11043491]

The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11043801]

>>11043366
>Finite poop hat

>>11043368
Emulsified fecal grumps

>>11043460
Why do you need TOOKER, unless you want a second guy to help keep the South American sexuality under wraps?

[Anonymous No.11043825]

>>11039696
It is within them but sounds real. But the part of their brain that allows them to recognize that it came from within is unable to. Thus, they perceive it as coming from outside. For this reason, schizophrenics can tickle themselves, because the part of their brain that recognizes the origin of the movement of tickling somehow malfunctions, and it feels like someone else is doing it.

[Anonymous No.11043847]

>>11039696
>>/x/

[Anonymous No.11043856]

>>11043440
Seems self explanatory and self fulfilling.

[Anonymous No.11043941]

>>11043801
>Why do you need TOOKER, unless you want a second guy to help keep the South American sexuality under wraps?

I don't need Tooker, I want to help him. No one has suffered more under western society than Tooker. But down here in South America, it's paradise. If you are white, english-speaking and male then this is your paradise. Tooker may not be Chad, but he is fucking SHREDDED. Tooks could get any latina chick he wanted. Wouldn't even need to pay. I pay because, as I've said before, I like some of the extras that come from paying.

[Anonymous No.11043950]

>>11039696
Also how do you exactly interpret that statement and differentiate it from other concepts such as intuition, self-talk, even imaginative creative self-dialogue

[Anonymous No.11043954]

>>11040646
>I occasionally get auditory hallucinations before I sleep when I'm stressed and taken a melatonin pill.
I get this and tons of people I know do too.

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11043955]

>>11043950
>Truth

>>11043941
So South American women just enjoy men that look dangerous or ARE dangerous?

[Anonymous No.11043962]

>>11043955
>So South American women just enjoy men that look dangerous or ARE dangerous?

No, but Tooker is not really dangerous. He seems that way because he lives in a society that essentially tortures him 24/7. Bring him to a more open place and you'll see how quick he becomes a productive member of society. This is true of any man by the way. Tooker is just a special case where literally all the ways someone's life can be fucked has happened to him.

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11044049]

>>11043962
Correct. Eventually some culture should recognise the value an individual has is limited only by not knowing them

[Anonymous No.11044062]

Schizos are just glitched NPCs

[Anonymous No.11044066]

>>11043962
we really need to figure out where this fake city the CIA is keeping him in and sneak him out. the world will become a technocratic utopia once the word of infinity hat gets out into the annals of science
also, literally told me to move out of my city because he's going to nuke every place with a population of over 10,000
>not dangerous
kek.

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11044155]

>>11044062
>Counter-Strike Bunny Hop Master!

>>11044066
Did his 'infinity hat' inform him of the mathematics of why nuking 'ALL:CITY<10,000' would render all known mathematical descriptions of this world a nuclear wasteland/winter that no living thing would survive, let alone sufficient intelligence to redescribe this idea called, "A Hat?"

[Anonymous No.11044163]

>>11044155
What does bunny hopping in counter strike have to do with glitched NPCs? All it took was perfectly timing your jumps when you land while strafing and turning your mouse in the same direction

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11044169]

>>11044163
Liars, Rapists, and Tests: I banish all from self and sundry, from those that could approach/evoke me and those that I would gift my divine time for free to. Forgive me for never having ever been/meet you.

In honor of Olivier Lew Cosgrove: 撒謊者,強姦犯和測試:我摒棄所有的自我和雜物,從那些可能接近/喚起我和那些我想我的禮物神聖的時間自由。 請原諒我從未去過/見到你。

>Actually, 'injecting information as emotive zip-bombs' is no different than glitching any reality matrix.

[Anonymous No.11044313]

>>11044066
That is not dangerous. He's just schizophrenic and that is just a way to cope with the fact that he has 0 zero power in this world. But you want to know what the cure for such disorders is? Imagine a qt 18-year-old Latina sucking your dick and after she is done swallowing your white seed she tells you "Daddy I need new clothes, can you please stop posting on 4chan and go to work tomorrow"? See if Tooker is not suddenly cured of his menagerie of mental illnesses.

[Anonymous No.11044319]

>>11040646
thats kill bill senpai, not pulp fiction

[Anonymous No.11044325]

>>11040727
The full-blown auditory hallucination was just a one time event. I get mild visual hallucinations a lot more frequently though. I sometimes see people who aren't there for a split second out of the corner of my eye. There was another instance where I was in my living room, and saw shadows appearing at the entrance. I went over to the entrance, and there was absolutely nothing there that could have caused the shadows.

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11044327]

>>11044313
I really want to understand this fetish because it boggles my mind. What exactly is the bit you like? Or is it all together for you is like some Phi conjugate cell?

[Anonymous No.11044354]

>>11040608
woo

[Anonymous No.11044362]

>>11040608
woo
oo
o o

[Anonymous No.11044364]

>>11040646
I get this but instead I have to focus on flickering my eyelids and that pulls me out of it. One time I tried to relax and "accept" the sleep paralysis to see where it went, I ended up having a deep state of panic and thought I was going to die even though I knew logically that nothing was happening, and I had to flicker my eyelids to escape. Usually the visual hallucinations that accompany my sleep paralysis are hulking monstrosities vaguely human in shape, just sort of standing there. Sometimes they move in erratic jerky fashion, or roll like smoke. Or both, super spooky. Sometimes I see complex machines hovering over me that wisp away like smoke. It's honestly terrifying even though I know it's not real.

[Anonymous No.11044373]

>>11044327
If by "fetish" you mean my preocupation with Tooker then it is quite simple. I see men like Tooker and I see untapped talent. Back in the good old days, you'd give men a wife to hug and then you would have their entire autism working for your economic machine. Nowadays I see the west as inneficient. Autism is not being properly utilized. The most talented soldiers are being left womenless and to rot. You could say I'm quite the aspiring statesman, and I give great thought to running efficient societies. I hope to eventually be education minister for a fascist dictatorship, but that will take a while.

[Anonymous No.11044418]

>>11040575
See
>>11042917
>>11043025
Counter-example to "all schizos are bots." This grade-a nutcase at least makes it easy to filter by also namefagging.

[Anonymous No.11044423]

>>11044163
>admin he doing it sideways

[Anonymous No.11045211]

>>11039696
as my brother describes it, the voices and conversation is in his head, interrupting his own internal monologue and sometimes getting in the way of actual conversation. he literally thinks angels and saints are speaking to him telepathically, which as far as schitz goes, is as good as it gets. at least he wants to be a priest instead of shoot up a school.
in reality he took waaay too much LSD and fried the communication center between his brain hemispheres and now when one hemispheres normally sends a message to another, it's basically missing a "return to sender" address. his whole life those messages were naturally delivered and taken care of, but now they feel like intrusive messages from nowhere.
your brain does it's best to make sense of what it observes and the best his came up with was angels. wtvr. he's still functional. thank God it's not demons.

[Anonymous No.11045225]

>>11042079
screenshoting this for my brother

[Anonymous No.11045245]

>>11045211
I should clarify that is not diagnosed, but nuerosurgeons we talked to say he displays the early warning signs of like "baby schitzo" disorder, which untreated develops into full blown schitzo.
he unfortunately is an adult on his own and the voices have convinced him were trying to steal his powers.

[Anonymous No.11045257]

>>11042227
wait, you're in the middle of making the beast with two backs, with another actual person, and you regularly just stop to go outside to find people that are only in your head? how does your partner feel about this?

[Anonymous No.11045314]

No other schizo's here? It was my third time psychosis when I heard voices. In my case, they sounded inside my head. The voices told me to suicide. I'm lucky I am alive.

[Anonymous No.11045668]

>>11042131
>internal voice rambling on and on
I have this a lot, like I lose control of the executive(?) part of my mind, especially at night. There's like a "me" me and the critical part of me, not a distinct personality but it often seems to act independently and I have to argue with it to stop (my fucking roommate heard me call myself a nigger). my hearing seems to be really amplified too, listening intently for anything instead of it being a passive sense

Am I retarded or what's going on

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11045672]

>>11044418
And yet I filter none of you. Strange that. Almost like silent audience size > judgement*punishment recursively.

The mistake y'all made in your existences is needing other communications to feel powerful. Eventually when you are just power you realise the only authority you need is your own and the ability to let old men and women die in the time wars.

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11045676]

>>11044373
If enough women and men would sign up to how filthy and submissive a slut for how responsible a position , and the list is made public, then consider me your fascist fractal function!

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11045685]

>>11045668
You have simply made friends with the divine judge that lives within you, namely, "The opposite sex."

Mine just goes:
1. Active participant
2. Immediate audience
3. My 12 Divine Daughters (Silent council)
4. Myself

These four judges are present at all times for me. Does wonders for the intellect.

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11045711]

Long story short: Every identity is a judge that shares themselves with/in time.

God of Time here! w00t! M00tykins!

[Anonymous No.11045725]

>>11045685
don't respond to me nigger

[Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) No.11045732]

>>11045725
>Audience member declares itself as an NPC
>NPC Audience Program Activate!