Do you (gifted) let other non gifted people know that you are?

[Anonymous No.11033061]

Those of you who are "gifted" or +130IQ, are you open about it with other non gifted people/friends? I am not talking about bragging, only if you let other people know or you try to keep it secret or avoid the topic.

> I have about 145 IQ but I didn't know until I was 20 years old.
> People and friends picked on me acussing me of being a smartass (mostly vocabualry related, books were like crack cocaine)
> I thought I was stupid until my 20s but I still had to "dumb" myself to avoid the bullying. My yet undiagnosed ADHD (ADD) was making things even worse.
> Having "high" intelligence causes lots of concrete problems that I cant talk with anyone who is not near that range because they take it as if I am braging about it or attacking them. Being able to talk about your problems with other people is really important to cope with them...
> I post this here because, believe it or not, this is one of the places with higher average IQ on internet (its the norm on almost any anon forums).

[Anonymous No.11033069]

>>11033061
Show, don’t tell. Let others speak of you. Even if you are smart, no one wants to hear you say it.

[Anonymous No.11033101]

>>11033061
>this is one of the places with higher average IQ on internet (its the norm on almost any anon forums)
thanks for the laugh, OP

[Anonymous No.11033105]

>>11033061
People who know me well will know it. I'm happy to Clark Kent for everyone else.

[Anonymous No.11033126]

I don't tell others I'm smart, people tell me

[Anonymous No.11033155]

>>11033061
IQ and dick both in the [math]+3\sigma[/math] range. I don't advertise it per se but light colored Rick and Morty branded sweatpants make it pretty obvious.

[Anonymous No.11033177]

>>11033101

>based on science :)

[Anonymous No.11033232]

Why da fuck would you tell anybody? You're just inviting yourself to trouble.

[Anonymous No.11033277]

>>11033232

I know it and that is what I do. Most times you dont even have to tell anything to get people mad at you for it...

[Anonymous No.11033333]

>>11033232
This.

[Anonymous No.11033343]

>>11033061
> I have about 145 IQ but I didn't know until I was 20 years old.

You have no idea what IQ even measures, you absolute unit of a brainlet. You cannot make inferences about past IQ, you could have easily had 100 IQ abd then it would increase to, say, 110 over the college years.
The fact that you make this claim is the best IQ test you could have ever taken (and fir free, too!). You are either average (100) or below.

[Anonymous No.11033345]

>>11033126
This. I have only ever told someone my IQ (Mensa rated at 169) twice in my life. Once when I was young and insecure and once when a hot girl asked me.

[Anonymous No.11033356]

>>11033343

I am about to graduate from psych, that's how I found out that and the ADHD, I hope I was +-110

[Anonymous No.11033359]

>>11033345

Are you really around 160? How is your life? I am really curious. I don't think I can understand how it would be to have such amount.

[Anonymous No.11033362]

no because it doesn't mean shit and the only measure of being gifted is how successful you end up

[Anonymous No.11033371]

>>11033061
Only thing i can tell you is to be humble and patient. If you think this place is higher average IQ on the internet, theres smarter places on the internet that you just dont know about yet.

[Anonymous No.11033411]

>>11033061
I have actually have been through the same shit. I too dumbed myself down for a while, but I couldn't take it any more. I went back to uni, community college at first but was accepted into a R1 university, luckily most of my friends still like me but there is a disconnect with many of them now, minus those who are closest to me and knew I wasn't a retard. That could be due to other things though such as life, however.

I'll call people out every now and then, but I mainly bite my tongue because the vast majority of people freak out if you don't automatically agree with them on a subject.

[Anonymous No.11033413]

>>11033411
Fucked up my grammar a bit, whoops. I've been drinking a bit

[Anonymous No.11033442]

>>11033371

Tell me about those places, I am quite new here but I already love it.

[Anonymous No.11033453]

>>11033359
Well I did do a PhD in Theoretical Physics so I like to think I put it to good use.

[Anonymous No.11033497]

>>11033453
so this board isn't just 18 years old bragging about integral symbols?? I have been fooled.

[Anonymous No.11033499]

>>11033061
How does it feel to have a +130IQ ? I am kind of a brainlet desu

[Anonymous No.11033526]

Every gift is a curse, and the greatest gift
(of high intelligence) is the greatest curse of all.

[Anonymous No.11033527]

>>11033069
>Show, don’t tell.
This. Always bring your IQ certificate with you.

[Anonymous No.11033530]

>>11033497
Have you never opened /mg/? There's plenty of smart people on this board.

[Anonymous No.11033537]

>>11033499
i usually score above 130 online so i took a real test and got 135ish, which is consistent
it's still not very high, but it's not terrible

it feels good, i may be a weirdo incel with schizoid political beliefs, but at least I have this number that I can use to push normie buttons
it's "only a number", but it really works well to make people seethe

[Anonymous No.11033538]

>>11033061
My whole life has basically been pretending to be retarded because I have a theory that once we evolved the ability to speak we also evolved the ability to socially deceive right away, which means that our incel ancestors milked the shit out of it to spread their genes until every single one around them was resistant to deception. And since deception is very synonymous to intellect, having high intellect will make you look like a potentially-manipulative asshole, while pretending to be dumb like me makes you immune from that because you're too dumb to deceive. The worst part is - all of this actually works and I haven't had so many friends as I do right now. Of course they must not be a part of your study/work group or they'll notice what you're doing.

>>11033497
Nah this board is seriously underappreciated and 4chan as a whole is not what it presents itself as, at all. The reason you see it that way is because most people come here to turn their brains off and consume memes or shitposts, but if you gathered 20 random /sci/ posters and put a gun to their heads to list every interesting thought they've ever had, I guarantee that you'd hear some amazing shit. If you're browsing 4chan seriously and trying to have a serious informative discussion, you're fucking retarded. This is basically the online pub for the internet nerds.

[Anonymous No.11033543]

>>11033061
if u have ADHD you are not truly gifted regardless of IQ

[Anonymous No.11033549]

>>11033177
>source: my ass

[Anonymous No.11033555]

I used to think this, but really people just react to displays of arrogance and being directly criticised.

It took me a few years, but the way you phrase a 'correction' to someone that just said something stupid makes all the difference. Basically don't imply they are stupid or emphasise how wrong they are. If they make a mistake allow them to feel like anyone could make that mistake. Don't express certainty (unless there's actually a 99.9% chance your source is correct and that you remember it perfectly), a possibly/maybe/perhaps added to any statement instantly makes it less arrogant sounding. And if you sound arrogant you sound biased and insecure, it makes it easy for people to attribute whatever you say to that rather than admit they are wrong.

And there are very few instances where your IQ is relevant to a conversation. It's very emotionally appealing to jump at any opportunity to 'prove' your intelligence to either yourself or others, but usually it just comes across as putting other people down to prop up your own fragile ego.

[Anonymous No.11033562]

>>11033061
220IQ here, how does it feel down there with the normies?

[Anonymous No.11033571]

>>11033499
I'm lonely

[Anonymous No.11033579]

>>11033555
Based and checked. I have noticed this too. If you want to get along with other people, you need to modulate your ego or give them a pass if they say some harmless incorrect shit once in a while. No one likes an insufferable smartass, and being one is, ironically, not always the smartest thing to do in a social context if you want to stay free of problems.

[Anonymous No.11033586]

>>11033579
that's literally oppression though

[Anonymous No.11033737]

>>11033538

Damn I lile this explanation. On deception is true that I can manipulate at ease but I chose not to do it because I feel that if I manipulate someone they become kind of dead to me. I dont know how to put it but I would like to be more of a psychopath and be able to use those skills to my benefit.

[Anonymous No.11033745]

>>11033555

Hell no, stating my IQ as a prove of my own intelligence in a conversation would be the worst and most stupid decision I can think of. The only times I want to mention my iQ is when I want to talk about certain problems that it creates... I really dont like any kind of attention so trying to sound/appear smart is not very appealing to me, I just want to have interesting conversations,

[Anonymous No.11033748]

>>11033571

Even when I am surrounded by people or "friends".

[Anonymous No.11033836]

>>11033061
Short answer, no. Detailed answer, read The 48 Laws of Power.

[Anonymous No.11033847]

>>11033836

I had the luck of reading that book before college, along with maestry. It really changed my life in that sense, the bullying and mockery ceased completely and now the tables have turned. I would recommend that at book to anyone, not to attain power but to know how to identify and defend yourself from those who try it on you.

[Anonymous No.11033852]

>>11033836
Oh and by read I mean listen to the Audiobook (youtube), because the narrator was perfect for the role.

[Anonymous No.11033859]

>>11033061
> Having "high" intelligence causes lots of concrete problems that I cant talk with anyone who is not near that range because they take it as if I am braging about it or attacking them. Being able to talk about your problems with other people is really important to cope with them...
That could be because you're an autist, not because you're smart. Knowing high intellectual and niche topics doesn't make you intelligent. I've seen plenty of smart people fit in just fine.

[Anonymous No.11033863]

>>11033061
Yes. I used to try and show it in subtle ways. It was only until I realized I was not responsible for being gifted that I stopped seeing myself as special.

[Anonymous No.11033875]

>>11033061
>be me
>score 130 IQ
>Suck at basic math

[Anonymous No.11033895]

>>11033859

The ones about my life not those kinds of problems... Sometimes they mix up (existential dread for example and ontology) but I am not as much as an autists as I used to be...

[Anonymous No.11033899]

>>11033863

That's exactly the same reason I don't feel more special than anyone else due to that factor.

[Anonymous No.11033903]

>put into academically gifted program for science and math in middle school
>didn't know at the time but the IQ cutoff in the program was 130
>midway in the program, the advanced classes were getting too full so they moved some kids to our class since we had only eight students
>at the end of the year standardized tests, the advanced kids in our class on average scored a few points higher than the gifted students though overall we all did very well

I don't even know why I even remember that but I guess I found it interesting and humbling even at my young age. Can only guess why our teacher even gave us that information.

[Anonymous No.11033912]

>>11033061
>tumblr

[Anonymous No.11033916]

Bait

[Anonymous No.11033922]

>>11033875

Provably you have some sort of ADHD. Basic math ability (doing problems and exercises) is far more influenced by working memory than IQ.

I always thought I was really stupid and bad at math but every time I went to a private teacher/academy to help me with them they thought I was prominent at understanding them, my grades were horrible because I couldn't do homework or exams on time (having to invest four times as much as a neurotypical) due to my impaired working memory. The thing is different when I dont have to solve exercises to prove my knowledge, more "advanced" math concepts are really easy for me but I still fail with any kind of math course/exam i have to do...

So to sum it all I bet you are not terrible at math, you just have a problem with working memory that does not let you apply the knowledge you really have.

[Anonymous No.11033930]

>>11033912

I love Tumblr, I know in the past they had a war with 4chan but I can't help it, I love aesthetics and art as much as science and philosophy.

[Anonymous No.11033938]

>>11033903

That is fascinating, It doesn't surprise me as much because I have read some psych papers about it but I still think is amazing. Our self concept and the way we think we are influence a lot on the performance we can achieve. That is why school was hell on earth for me, jokes on me but the school was Christian.

[Anonymous No.11033942]

>>11033922
Apparently I do have ADHD. I think you are right about me, because generally what I fail at in math is speed and remembering the methods to do something.

[Anonymous No.11034059]

>>11033345
what can a brainlet do to increase their IQ?

[Anonymous No.11034080]

>>11033538
I have evolved a different strategy to deal with high intelligence.

I basically just pretend to be lazy. That way even if everyone realizes I'm more intelligent than they are, they believe they can beat me by working harder.

This motivates them, but I ultimately still win as I just conserve my energy and make a few small brilliantly efficient decisions rather than a large number of average ones. But they are limited in their time perception so they feel most of the time they are ahead.

[Anonymous No.11034094]

>>11033061
As someone with average IQ who works with highly intelligent people, I struggle to keep up and do my best to avoid slowing them down. I try to be the best support because I know I will never reach their level, so i just work hard and try to help.

[Anonymous No.11034110]

>>11034094
karma?

[Anonymous No.11034133]

I measured my brain volume after getting an MRI for my neurodegenerative illness the measurements of my brain speak for themselves, showing my IQ scores is unnecessary.

[Anonymous No.11034154]

>>11034133
weird flex but ok

[Anonymous No.11034174]

>>11033061
I have this problem! I like to leave subtle hints of superior intelligence. That way if someone picks up on them, I can have confidence they are worth relating to.

[Anonymous No.11034189]

>>11033061
I dont know if im really up there but i happen to exhibit a lot of traits and my comprehension of things is up there however i dont consider my self that smart. The reason of this post is because people do get really defensive when i speak with them, not always in the usual sense but they do watch what they say. The downside about this is that when people take you too seriously they are not their usual self. On top of this i am really lazy and dont really exploit my potential

[Anonymous No.11034197]

>>11033543
>tfw

[Anonymous No.11034205]

I measured my cranial capacity in the MRI program "3d slicer" by highlighting only the density of brain tissue, then the eyeballs and some nose tissue were manually deleted, leaving only my brain volume was 1636cm^3

[Anonymous No.11034211]

>>11033061
Convinced myself I was as thick as my friends, trying to fit in as a teenager. Drank and took way too many drugs to feel like I'm bringing myself down to other people's level. Now that I'm older I have more intelligent friends. I'm not incredibly eloquent with my words, but I have elite tier maths and problem solving abilities. So people wouldn't assume Im smart because of the way I speak, but every day I watch people doing things constantly and think "you fucking moron, there's about 8 easier ways to do that"

[Anonymous No.11034215]

>>11033061
Not important unless brought up in conversation. Normally not brought up in conversation.

[Anonymous No.11034221]

I'm not gifted but I've been tested at 128, feels bad because I can't brag about it since I'm still in the normie range but I still get a lot of the disadvantages of having an above average iq.

>>11033903
Did you post that in another thread? I feel like I've already read something similar to this.

[Anonymous No.11034249]

>>11034205
>>11034133
you should really be measuring size+connectivity between different regions and degree of lateralization. brain size doesn't mean shit.

[Anonymous No.11034276]

>>11033442
Literally some subreddits.
/sci/ is almost entirely highschooler/undergrad LARPers who are slightly above average in intelligence, hence the proportion of general threads e.g. IQ, rather than specific topics.
If you love it here, you're probably not smart.

[Anonymous No.11034298]

>>11034276
>Literally some subreddits.
And here we have an insight into the average redditor's mind. As you can see, he legitimately believes in serious discussion and bases the quality of an internet forum upon how well is the circlejerk enforced by the mods. Alas, he cannot realize that there is a very specific reason why reddit, much larger than 4chan, simply cannot produce internet culture regardless of how hard it tries to moderate and steer itself into doing so because his limited redditor brain has shut down any thought processes venturing above his one-dimensional understanding of forum dynamics and the desire to censor anything wider than his narrow understanding. Yet, even his limited perception of this world has somehow led him to here because a very small part of it essentially realizes all of the above.

[Anonymous No.11034319]

>>11033527
You'll still get made fun of for literally anything else, so no

[Anonymous No.11034320]

>>11034298
>limited perception of this world
>Cries at the mention of reddit
You're already borderline retarded for being on an /sci/, and the fact you're posting on another shitty IQ thread pushes you over the edge. At least have some humility.

[Anonymous No.11034342]

>another iq thread

[Anonymous No.11034349]

>>11034342
Yet here you are bumping, faggot.

[Anonymous No.11034364]

>>11034349
Yes I forgot to sage, not going to make that mistake next time

[Anonymous No.11034365]

>>11034298
>Look mom! It's called a "meme".

[Anonymous No.11034379]

>>11033061
People can kind of tell. My close friends are around as smart as I am (some smarter, some less so) so it's never been a problem. You learn how to manage and deal with people who are of lesser intelligence. It's been a problem at work where I assume that people will understand what I'm saying (engineer). I've moved jobs enough to be in a place where I don't face that problem anymore

[Anonymous No.11034382]

>>11034349
what is sage

[Anonymous No.11034391]

i just tell people i USED to be smart as a kid and pretend to be normie

[Anonymous No.11034406]

>>11034382
What is reading?
>>11034364

[Anonymous No.11034407]

>>11033061
I wish I was smart, im a dumb fuck, I have failed uni several times all I wish for is that I would have been born a bit smarter. im 26 and a fucking loser.

[Anonymous No.11034414]

>>11034407
at least you survived to age 26... I just turned 21 and I have brain disease, autonomic heart problems, and abnormal blood tests all the time. I can only hope to see my 22nd birthday, I cant know how much longer I have...

[Anonymous No.11034434]

>>11033126
this and I hate it because I dont feel smart at all

[Anonymous No.11034465]

>>11034382
lurk moar

[Anonymous No.11034502]

>>11033061
Hi anon,

I have the same problem. Right now I am developing a microprocessor architecture for my master's thesis, but if I ever bring this up around non-"gifted" types they start staring at their fingernails and whatever else they find interesting. It feels fairly isolating that the only people I have fun conversations with are a few of my peers and two professors at my school that share research interests with me, that's it.

I often dumb down my vocabulary to be more approachable, but that only works for a little while. My go-to is to always tell people that "I am doing good!" when people ask how my day is going, at the very least I am annoying grammar nazis.

I think what bothers me more than anything is that I am silent a lot of the time because I don't know what to talk about. All I do is digital design and love talking about it, but no one gives a shit.

[Anonymous No.11034518]

>>11034414
I'm sorry to hear that anon.
If your time should come soon, I hope you rest in peace

[Anonymous No.11034547]

>>11033061
No one gives a shit about IQ in the real world, I've been called smart all my life despite looking like a crook.
There's no need for me to flex, what you should do instead if you're highly intelligent is to act stupid while making moves in the background.
>t. tested 138 IQ pt. average by a psychologist

[Anonymous No.11034577]

>>11033061
>My yet undiagnosed ADHD (ADD) was making things even worse
How are you dealing with this? I'm 25 and struggling with life and getting through college despite being gifted. Adderall helps, but not really, as it makes me sluggish and unmotivated. I'm fairly certain now that I have some kind of sleep disorder.

[Anonymous No.11034612]

>>11034211

I had a huge identity crisis when I started going out to "party" as a teenager. I did everything you are supposed to do, but I was just bored to death and did not get any fun neither. The best part of the night was arriving at home and finally being able to do my shit. The only times going out with friends is fun is when you are at someone s home just chilling. The worst was people looking at you weird because you dont like that kind of stuff, It was kind of funny though.


> The girls that you found going out are all the boring ones.
> Everyone is drunk and the place is loud so its impossible to have any kind of conversation.
> Getting into fights and shit because, well, drugs and retards.

[Anonymous No.11034652]

>>11034221

IQ is a quite good measure but not that good to have this level of accuracy, I see IQ really in terms of standard deviations mostly because 2 points up and down barely mean something. Maybe one day you get 136 and the next 125.

When I was a really young kid in school the math teacher thought I was a potential prodigy and made the centre IQ test me (in my country is not common to test the IQ, only on demand and very rarely). I don't remember anything but my mother say I got around 125 or less so nothing happened. Then on my 20's, while studying psych I got really interested in creative geniuses and learned about everything I could. One thing was IQ. Reading the literature about the life for gifted/high iq children, adolescents and adults I was seeing how my life was already explained infront of me. It took me almost two years of reading and researching to reach a point to allow myself to think that I am not really dumb as I thought. Did the battery of tests because my ADHD psych was interested too and I got around 140. The difference in the results, compared with the one i did as a child, was that this one took into account the fact that I had ADHD to avoid masking my "real" IQ.


So ,long story short, you are smarter that you allow yourself to believe, these numbers mean something but not everything and intelligent people usually are the ones who most self-conscious are about their intelligence. It is a common occurrence on untested adults to see themselves dumber than they really are.

PD: You can suppose I was sattisfied with `a score of`+-140 but what I thought was that i would never be able to be a genius like those who I admire because I am not even 160IQ so I really saw my score as mediocre at best. What I mean with that is that never will be enough for you, you will never be satisfied with what you have so the best thing is to learn to appreciate what you have because, in your case, it's a really high score.

[Anonymous No.11034660]

>>11034276

Damn it, I knew it...

[Anonymous No.11034670]

>>11034342

I think this could be due to the fact that most of us have our identity linked to our intelligence so, if taking into account the avg age of the people lurking here, these kinds of posts and obsession with IQ is more like a kind of self search of one's own individual identity. As long as you don't fall into the trap of thinking your IQ measures your own worth as a person you are good.

[Anonymous No.11034703]

>>11034407

Dude, I am about to drop out from a comp sci university grade because I am unable to force myself to work on the useless stuff that is only used to demonstrate to someone that you have learned... I am really good at algebra and I have failed 2 times the course because I cant do exams on time (I have ADHD (Pi) and it impairs my working memory, so I am unable to pass...) The good thing is that even when I have failed badly I have learned A LOT of so I know I can get a job easy. If I did not know tha I had ADHD I would have killed myself provably because seeing literally brain-dead who barely can articulate a phrase pass courses that you are failing even when putting all your effort is just humiliating. I am not exaggerating about the brain-dead, I never expected that university would be filled with such amount of REALLY dumb people.

[Anonymous No.11034705]

>>11034414

Fuck man... Is your life really in danger or just seriously impaired? I don't want to even imagine what would it be to live through something like this... If I can help in some ways feel free to tell me...

[Anonymous No.11034723]

>>11034652
Thanks anon, beautiful by the way.

[Anonymous No.11034731]

>>11034502

Man... I have a more broad amount of interests (but less depth in all of them too). This past 3 years at uni I have only had good conversations with some of my teachers (the best ones, most of them suck as much as my peers...). I have been even mocked when I shared with the class some of my thoughts about our field and stuff, what you usually talk with those people but in my case I am really passionate about it (and most of them not) so as soon as I start to show any kind of "talent" I overheard some sarcastic comments about how smart I think I am... Honestly I would not give a rat ass if that was the case but I HATE seeing any kind of narcissistic behaviour on me so, even when I really try my best to be "normal" It really hurted me to be mocked and perceived as a smartass when I am only really interested and passioned about my field... Most of the time I am alone in class and I don't dislike it but the reason is because of the huge gap between me and my peers...
So yes, talking to my professors are one of the most stimulating things I have done here... I am not complaining but sometimes I wish I was as everyone else and were able to fit in without faking a completely different personality... (I did that until high school, when I started college I just saw more interesting to be alone with my thoughts). This is one of the things that I would love to talk openly with my group of "friends" but I know I can't...

[Anonymous No.11034733]

>>11033061
I found my superior intelligence impossible to hide from anyone, but nobody ever resented me for it. Ever.
I guess you're just obnoxious or live in a very different society.

[Anonymous No.11034772]

>>11034577

I am not dealing with it, I amb about to drop out provably next year (4th) of com sci (wich is really easy desu) but I am unable to do the assigments and exams on time. I have tried the entire farmacy, even 4th line treatments but nothing really worked at all. It sucks because I know I understand everything but I am just unable to prove it like they want to. At least I have some hope because ,the courses that work around applying all your knowledge from previous courses and doing a project, I have really excelled (working alone against groups of people) and luckily most of the teachers picked on me for that, even more when they saw I was failing hard at almost every course I was demonstrating my applied knowledge of them on the projects. That gives me hope and I am lucky that my field is not really enough to have the title so as far as I know I have a good deck of cards to shot to my possible employee . I want to make my own thing because I don't like none of the companies that are at the top of my field (game development) so I will have to go even harder for it to work out...

Honestly if I really needed to complete my grade for my career development I would have killed myself at this point so... ADHD is no fuking joke, even worse I would say if its paired with high intelligence because you know what is your potential and what are you capable of but you are REALLY unable to make it real (if meds worked I would have stood a chance at least but I had no luck with that...). I am 22 btw, If you want to talk more about it I would not mind at all, I know really well how fuking hard it is to live like this, so I really don't mind if I can help you a bit (for me being able to talk about it with someone else meant a world to me I suppose It would be similar for you, one feels really alone... )

[Anonymous No.11034797]

I think there is a bit of confusion about being intelligent and being autistic. Part of being smart is knowing that effective communication requires using common words; if you are using SAT words, then I'm sorry, you are either autistic or an idiot. Smart people can express complex ideas in a concise manner.

[Anonymous No.11034973]

>>11034772
ADHD doesn't exist. You most probably have a couple of variables in your everyday lifestyle that are producing the ADHD symptoms. Here are some common variables that give you the ADHD symptoms
1.shitty diet. (every meal should be light and should not give you the sleepy sensation known as food coma afterwards)
2.improper sleep pattern(sleep according to body's natural circadian cycle)
3.over stimulation via media(internet, tv, podcasts, youtube)
4.masturbation(quit it)
5.lack of exercise(jump rope for atleast 5 mins a day)
6.dehydration

[Anonymous No.11035058]

>>11034205
>1636cm^3

[Anonymous No.11035220]

>>11033527
kek

[Anonymous No.11035250]

I am gifted, I used to brag or defend myself but no longer do so. There's no point in it. Even if someone was to call me an idiot or dumb I'd just accept that is what they think of me and use such critique to better improve myself. Most of the time that such critique is given to an idea of mine I usually come to understand that such a matter is beyond their comprehension or knowledge of a subject and perhaps the way I tried to convey the idea needs work.

[Anonymous No.11035299]

>>11035250
>iven to an idea of mine I usually come to understand that such a matter is beyond their comprehension or knowledge of a subject
Or maybe it was a dumb idea

[Anonymous No.11035318]

>>11033061
If you work in any sort of science field then all your co-workers will have above average intelligence, i.e. you're not special.

[Anonymous No.11035338]

>>11033061
never let them know how smart you are. i pretend to be retarded even though i have a 140 IQ. catch my coworkers underestimating me CONSTANTLY.

[Anonymous No.11035357]

>>11034973

I ruled out everything, I did all of those at the same time for almost a year. I thought it was not a real deal until I managed to see exactly how it affects me. My brother is as smart as I am, but he does not have ADHD. He excels academically and I don't. So unfortunately its a real thing...

[Anonymous No.11035417]

>>11034731
talk to me, i'm the same

[Anonymous No.11036312]

>>11033527
actually lol'd thank you anon

[Anonymous No.11036354]

>>11034133
Kek
The corpus callosum isn't where cognitive stuff happens, it's in the prefrontal gyrus and some peri-sylvian areas (Brocca, Wernicke).

>>11034205
A whale has a 8000cm^3 brain, it's still dumb as shit anon.

[Anonymous No.11036368]

>>11034174
lol cute

[Anonymous No.11036424]

>>11034973
>lack of exercise
>jump rope for at least 5 mins a day

[Anonymous No.11036457]

>>11033061
Is this IQ bullshit an American thing?
If people tell me I'm smart is because of my actions or my achievements, not because some organization told me.

[Anonymous No.11036465]

>>11033061
i scored 136 in online free iq test but i dont consider myself intelligent at all

[Anonymous No.11036607]

>>11036457

No one knows my IQ and sometimes they tell me I seem smart. IQ is just a way to more or less measure it.

[Anonymous No.11036617]

>>11036465

It is quite usual for high IQ people to feel dumber than they really are because they have more capacity to observe their own error. The less smart the less meta cognition is present so at some point "stupid" people have a hard time being aware of their own dumbness. I am near your range and all my life thought that I was stupid but at the same time having on the back of my mind the impression that I am smart in comparison to others but my failure at being normal made me trust the first thought...

[Anonymous No.11036632]

>>11036354
Isn't most of that just extra motor and sensory neurons as a result of the larger body size?

[Anonymous No.11036867]

>>11033453
> PhD in theoretical physics
> Hangs out on board with daily discussions about Anne Hathaway's feet

[Anonymous No.11036894]

>>11033069
OP surely means "show, not tell", vs "don't show, don't tell". I can confirm the former is a life-ruining mistake.

[Anonymous No.11036900]

>>11036354
>Kek
>The corpus callosum isn't where cognitive stuff happens, it's in the prefrontal gyrus and some peri-sylvian areas (Brocca, Wernicke).
No, it's the cerebellum. Cerebral cortex is mostly just habits and memory.

[Anonymous No.11036924]

>>11033101
Quite a few people here have high IQ. It’s easy enough to tell in the writing. Even with the shitposting style and writing quickly, it is easy to tell

[Anonymous No.11037152]

>>11033538
How can I pretend to be stupid? They don't realize you're basically patronizing them?

When I speak, I usually don't stutter and I use words that would blatantly give me away quite often. Do you just speak to people like you're talking to a kid? I'm not very good at that either; I was a shut-in for the entirety of my teenage years.

I believe what you say has some truth to it. I've noticed that math majors are always pretty tight with me, but all the hottest chicks and averageish people don't like talking to me much.

Categorizing people (I know it's a pop-sci, but it is a decent archetype) by MBTI, the only people who really like me are intuitives.

[Anonymous No.11037158]

>>11036894

[Anonymous No.11037164]

>>11037152
>How can I pretend to be stupid?
If you're drunk or high you don't even need to pretend! Best way of getting on even grounds with anyone and then you can reliably fall back on memories you have with those people further ahead. When all else fails: talk about other people, that's what most other people do all days anyway. Being humble goes a long way, too.

If you want the hottest chicks you gotta be the hottest guy though, that's social equality for ya, not much more to it than that.

[Anonymous No.11037209]

>>11037152

Don't worry, most of the psych graduates I know say that MBTI is equivalent of Astrology but I don't think they would like to know how retarded is to even consider such statement. It's the same phenomena I observe in atheists (and my former atheist me, I am agnostic). Atheists think of themselves as the supreme elite of knowledge and truth but their confidence is only fuelled by their own ignorance. Anyone who takes himself seriously enough will eventually realize that atheism is the same as gnosticism or even worse. Because philosophy does not exist in their dictionary I suppose.

So yes, the MBTI is REALLY good, not the MBTI in itself but the theoretical framework that behind its foundations, the Jungian functions from Carl Jung.

I agree entirely with the statement that MBTI is not science, the test are not good and reliable enough if compared with the big five traits (OCEAN) for example. But it's easy to translate from ocean to MBTI if you are not brain-dead so... Even while the OCEAN is more "scientific" than the MBTI / jungian functions the difference of depth for understanding human personality and psyche that the Jungian framework offers in contraposition to ocean is just massive.

Both of them are good for certain uses but nowadays the best way to understand the human personality is with the Jungian framework with no shadow of doubt. Its not scientific but it does not need it to, unluckily this appears to be too much to deal with for the average scientific brainlet who takes and believes in science in a blind and dogmatic way without even realizing it. Just thinking about some of those who I know makes me sick, what a sad way to taint the beauty of the scientific method...

What type are you? I guess from your answer you could be INTJ/INTP.

[Anonymous No.11037211]

>>11037164
I do get high all the time. I used to work at a dog daycare center where I'd supervise 20-45 dogs playing at a time, and I'd show up high there. I got good at pretending I'm not, and now I can drive perfectly while high and function perfectly in a conversation with my superiors or peers. If I start speaking my mind - which I don't usually do even whilst sober - I sound crazy. I'm not, I'm just being playful with my ideas. But, you know how people are.

I'm actually pretty good looking, probably about an 8? +- 1 depending on how I fit people's tastes. The trouble is I live in a poor community consisting primarily of Mexicans. The smart+hot ones are all taken already, so that just leaves the hot ones, and they don't like me cause I'm the opposite of materialistic and I try not to seduce people by touching them. They like dudes who dress like hypebeasts and "macho" men usually. Which is ridiculous; they're basically just petulant children in an adult's body who have poor control over their impulses. I had always thought the definition of society's quintessential man was someone with discipline, a quiet strength. Perhaps it was, in my parent's generation. But it's not like that now, not where I live.

So do I have to be more impulsive, use smaller words, escalate touch and pretend to not know 3/4ths the things I know? I don't have money, so that's not an option. Even if I did, would I have to be more materialistic? And since my interests in art and food and lifestyle are so different, do I have to pretend to be a normie who uses social media and likes the hottest new TV show?

Society is ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.11037227]

>>11037211
>Society is ridiculous.
What? No, you are.

Hard work pays off, you're not working very hard. Doesn't matter how smart you tell yourself you are.

Come back when you've put in 8 hours a day of productive work for 2+ years and still are in a runt.

[Anonymous No.11037229]

>>11033061
I don't, you have nothing to win in letting your giftedness express in spectacular ways.

The worst thing when you are gifted is to be aware of it.
It makes you feel different, superior and depressed. You see the pointlessness of many things enjoyed by others and getting closer to those truths is not an advantage at all, it is just something that makes life less enjoyable compared to people with "lower" intelligence.

I've been a sad fuck for all my life so far. The only good part is the ability of intelligence to strongly lower stress levels (for my case at least).

This is not realy a gift, this is a curse.

[Anonymous No.11037233]

>>11037209
I agree whole-heartedly. I love Jung's overall philosophy and I've read a few of his books. He's basically the standard for psychology, in my eyes. Science is limited in regards that it's trying to understand by far the most complex and nuanced thing in our known universe; while this is important, people have started treating the scientific method as dogma as opposed to a synthesizing humanity's long history of mysticism with the corroboration of physics and chemistry.

The ocean/big 5 is more politically-correct scientifically; it's very limited in use however. Jungian cognitive functions appear to be the best framework available, and I even spent a fair amount of time trying fathoming how I could improve them, and I didn't get anywhere. I'll revisit the topic once I have more maturity. I've adopted a shaman mentality, and ended up going back to school since I dropped out. I don't excel by learning at school - I'm an autodidact and can only learn by myself or in small groups. It doesn't help that my brain is ADHD as fuck.

I'm an INFJ, I think. It's really quite hard to say, since I've lived an unusual life. I come from a family of engineers, but my mother has horrible taste in men. I come from a broken home; my father abused her, ruined her credit, got me sent to Foster Care and himself to prison. My mom got me out of foster care after nearly a year, I ended up having a lot of anxiety/issues that I needed to go to therapy for. My mom ended up falling in love with him, he became a father figure to me and he eventually broke it off with her and stoped supporting us financially, and we had to move in with my asshole family members for nearly 2 years. I got out, hated my life and was super depressed by age 11, and was a regular truant. I ended up getting put in an independent learning program, my GPA went from 1.5 to 3.7 and I spent my whole high school life talking to nobody besides my teacher and my mom. So it's hard to say; I could be changing still.

[Anonymous No.11037234]

>>11037229
Why not get a job at a high intellectual level? Then you're surrounded by likeminded people, because noone else can do it

[Anonymous No.11037242]

>>11033345
You aced the Mensa test? I missed one question I think they knocked me down to 166, I've taken many other tests though (my dad wanted to mold me into a math prodigy) and I've ranged loosely between 160-180. IQ beyond ~150 seems to make no real difference, even exam scores begin to vary a lot.
>>11033061
The only person who knows is my family and girlfriend, some of my closest friends might know because of some of our drunk nights.
People will just see you as pretentious, don't actively tell people. It's like being rich, you don't actively tell people you're right either. They'll find out on their own.
Pic related. Couldn't find my new one or my other IQ society certificates, they must be at my parent's house.

[Anonymous No.11037261]

>>11037229

How are you talking to my soul? That's exactly it, a fucking curse... Sometimes I feel even worse for complaining about something that in theory is a gift... I don't know how to see it a "gift" when it lets you disconnected from most of the people and not being able to enjoy the things that are designed for people to enjoy...

With effort and hard, HARD work one can manage to try to make its own path but the everlasting sadness and despair never ceases to be present no matter what... And its not a chemical imbalance, at least not in my case, I know very well why I feel the way I feel and sadly it makes sense...

[Anonymous No.11037262]

>>11037227
I am, but it's a recent thing. I fell between the cracks of society for over 20 years before deciding I really want out. But I can work better if I enjoy my time outside of working to the most of my ability. That's where other people come in.

I've been putting in work for 6 months and it's already paid dividends. I've got a very long way to go, and I'm going to go there, but I think I've more than earned the right to just relax sometimes and fuck on some misguided, free-spirited chick with a fat ass and a face that makes me want to write music.

Smart people are cynical as fuck and it's fucking exhausting. Maybe she just cares about money and comfort and excitement, but shit, am I supposed to be a stoic 24/7? Nah, gimme a stupid chick with a good heart and better tits. I can get the whole package later, when I've put my dues in and my worth is pre-eminent. I've got a longgggg way to go, and I'm not looking for a partner who holds me back from my ambitious goals.

I'll reiterate: society is ridiculous, and it's doing a pretty great job of trying to destroy itself, but I don't want it to so I'm dedicating my life to not letting that happen. How do I do the best? By not feeling isolated and having a modicum of intimacy, even if it's shallow, so I find deeper passion and inspiration for my work.

[Anonymous No.11037291]

>>11037261
>>11037262
The only difference between your struggles and one who's less gifted is that you're more able to put it into words.

The struggle is exactly the same, if not worse, for one who isn't as able. They truly lack any ways out at all, they're constantly stuck in the world that you whine about without any means of escape except possibly luck and/or criminality. But they can't express themselves. They can't put in 8 hours a day to get highly educated and get out. They're just feeling shitty with a shitty job and the same responsibilities and anchors dragging them down as anyone else.

A good honest man without exceptional talents or luck, who just happened to be born without cognitive gifts, will never ever achieve greatness. That's why this biological advantage is called a gift. You have the ability to chose whereas others does not. The easy way out is to cruise control into an average life, but doing so is probably a big source of depression, you won't fit in.

[Anonymous No.11037293]

>>11033922
why would he have ADHD?
I'm asking because my iq was tested at 140, but at the same time my memory isn;t very good. It's not awful but the people around me do notice it. I always suspected that I had a form of ADD so maybe it could be related to my minor memory impairment.

[Anonymous No.11037298]

yeah I have a tendency to over use my broad vocabulary. people really seem to get upset about it. so I find myself dumbing my speech down a lot.

[Anonymous No.11037315]

>>11037298
Communication requires both the speaker and listener to cooperate in trying to understand each other. This is all the more important when the content is complex and/or the two sides come from different backgrounds.
In which case the indicator of intelligence is not using the biggest or more precise words, but being able to "reach across" to the other side, understand the material from their perspective, and translate it into words that they can understand -- without compromising on the integrity of your ideas.
This can be done more often than you think, at least if your communication partner is behaving in good faith (as they should be). Look at >>>/sci/sqt/ for examples of this in action.

[Anonymous No.11037331]

>>11037233

Oh man... INFJ are my favourite people. I am also ADHD and "self taught" too, a better way to put it would be that I just really enjoy following my curiosity, so I end up learning lots of things.

I don't even know how painful had to be live through all of that being an INFJ... I don't want to be rude but I don't know how you managed to avoid killing yourself. How are you and your life nowadays? I often feel bad for complaining about my upbringing (my psych says I have the right to do it but I don't...) because it wasn't half as bad as yours for example... I don't know how would it be to pass through such amount of suffering, I think about that a lot. I don't understand why suffering has to exist on whatever kind of existence we live in, if there is something instead of something when does suffering come into play?.

There are some kind of personalities that have it "easier" to live through these kinds of experiences but for sensitive and perceptive people like INFJ everything is magnified making it a lot of worse...

I don't talk to many people, I have some friends but none of them really fall under my own definition of friendship. Finding the right teacher at the right time has changed my life, I really enjoy talking to the ones that have true vocation and passion for their field.
I hope everything goes better for you and some day be able to stop carrying that weight and be happy, sorry...

[Anonymous No.11037332]

This board should be renamed to /iq/ desu

[Anonymous No.11037333]

>>11037315
yes I agree. I'm just noticing that many people have hangups about "college words". even the nominally educated ones who completed college.

[Anonymous No.11037346]

>>11033061
I’m rated by Mensa to be at 135, and I also have ADD. It doesn’t cause me much trouble now but in the past it has made me very depressed due to not being able to get shit done all while knowing I was smart enough to be able to do a good job with it if I would just be able to focus. Also did a lot of drugs due to this so that might’ve made me less intelligent, but who knows. Mostly keep it hidden because I don’t wanna sound like one of those Rick and Morty people with “muh IQ”

[Anonymous No.11037396]

>>11037293

Because ADHD/ADD impairs mostly the executive functions of the brain. One of those is the working memory, the one I was talking about.
I had to learn a lot about the field until I could really understand why I was failing at normal even when I knew I was not dumb to say the least... I wanted to do math+phys but I knew somehow I would get stuck when doing problems even if the theory comes easy for me...

Its really frustrating but at least now I know that my results are not because I am dumb. All my life thought otherwise and you believe you can't really do or succeed at anything so you don't even try, not even feeling to deserve any kind of self esteem.
Now ,knowing that at least even when the problem still there, I now found some other things that does not require that much of the things that I have impaired and now I am starting to get the results near the level of my real potential for the first time of my life.
Believing in you thanks to self-knowledge has been a game changer in that regard, over the span of two years I evolved from being the bullied dumb and spacey kid to being treated fairly and feeling more on control of my life, which is really satisfying.

Unfortunately none of the meds I tried (all of them) improved in any way those impairments , I am one of the lucky ones who don't... Yay! So the next year I will have to frop out from my cs degree (3rd) and the worst of all is that i did not found it as difficult as I thought so It feels bad to see yourself unable to do even that... Luckily I have learned a lot because I only had troubles doing exercises/problems but understanding them was quite easy desu.

>If you suspect you could have ADHD get checked for it. I was undieagnosed until now in univerity and everything that caused me lots of troubles now I know it was not really my fault.
> I have observed that high IQ and ADD related symtoms often do not respond to any kind of ADHD/ADD medication so I suspect it mus be somethig else.

[Anonymous No.11037411]

>>11037346

Damn another specimen like me. Did any med work for you at all? What and how are you doing now? Not being able to get shit done and seeing the days passing by while you contemplate how you are wasting your potential is a really sick way of torturing someone...

I am about to drop out uni because I am failing courses that I understand all the material really well (some professors told me that being surprised) but I am unable to do the assigments and exams on time...

I tryed everything and ended up burning out at the end of the last semester due to an excess of workload that did literally 0 improvement on my grades... But hey, at least I am learning a lot so it could be worse...

[Anonymous No.11037438]

>>11033061
Why would you?
If you are actually gifted, trust me, other people will know.

[Anonymous No.11037449]

>>11037331
What's your MBTI? INTP?

No, you're not being rude. Honestly, I think the only thing that stopped me was stubbornness. My mom tried incredibly hard to make sure I wasn't a statistic, and I recognized that. Even though I shouldn't have been born in the first place, she did everything she could to make sure I had a chance. I wasn't going to repay her that by killing myself. I think she also would've killed herself, and my two half-siblings - both great, intelligent, well-adjusted people - would just be like what the fuck. This lead to a lot of resentment in my teenage years, realizing my mom's poor decisions were the causation of my ruined life. It's hard, seeing your siblings, 10+ years older, being fully-functioning adults who grew up in a million-dollar house with everything they ever needed, while you can't even afford clothes that aren't second-hand (I still can't).

Honestly, thank you for saying all that you have. I've never had someone recognize that while my situation was bad in of itself, it was made worse because I have the IQ of a genius and I was born extremely sensitive (my mom is easily the most sensitive person in her whole family, and my dad wasn't exactly a stoic either). To put it bluntly, it was fucking soul-crushing and I would fantasize about having horrible deaths and listen to the most nihilistic black metal I could. I got in some really bad online relationships that helped distract me from my existential hatred, and while they were horrible relationships, they did teach me a lot and give me hope.

Now I'm kind of just an outsider who is good at fitting in. I'm still alone, and don't really have any close friends. I got in a car accident in December that created an inflection point in my life, and I decided to go back to school after dropping out. I'm in community college now as a tutor and I run a book/activism club. I wasted a couple years of my life after high school, but I think I really needed those to achieve the

(cont.)

[Anonymous No.11037451]

>>11037331
>>11037449


metamorphosis that I have. In the past few months I started reading deeper into shamanism, and I’ve decided to become a sort-of new-age shaman. Shamans are meant to go through ordeals of the spirit, and I was forced to countless times already. I think my only true calling is to help others along their spiritual journey, specifically those in education. I aspire to create a platform for gifted people who don’t have the inclination/strength to endure hardships. I think the human race is in the most vulnerable position it’s been since the inception of civilization, and something really needs to be done about it or else there might not be future generations. My life’s still not great by any means, but I have a purpose and I now see any suffering I endure as a gift. I’ve become incredibly strange, almost alien. I don’t even feel like I’m human much of the time, anymore. I’m a regular practitioner of mindfulness and meditation, and a huge proponent of psychedelics. My next step will probably be facing all of my fears on psychedelics, but I’ve got a couple more things I need to work out sober before initiating that.

I see suffering as a sort of catalyst for evolution. Similar to food, except for it’s not tangible in any way, and not all suffer equally. I have a fetishization with altered-states of consciousness, and I notice that the more I suffer, the more elegant and euphoric my moments of peace and revelation become. So, pain is an alchemical component that begets the expansion of mind. It’s either necessary or one of the best catalysts available to those without a mentor; I cannot say for certain, as I've never had a mentor myself.

(cont. sry I talk a lot haha)

[Anonymous No.11037463]

If people need 1000+ characters to explain their horrible situation, it kind of makes sense that they are in that situation

Life is never that complicated, unless you make it so.

[Anonymous No.11037468]

>>11033069
This though. I hate saying that i'm smart or not but people notice it and say it. Although i avoid using the word smart or not.

[Anonymous No.11037471]

>>11033061
>Do you (gifted) let other non gifted people know that you are?

well i dont judge my giftedness on my IQ for a start, plenty of high IQ individuals run the world today and they rarely make a good decision.

as for my talents, i released them online as performance art because that is what they are for.

[Anonymous No.11037472]

>>11037331
for certain, as I’ve never had a mentor.

I’d be interested to hear your story as well. Your shrink is right, for what it’s worth. Countless people have lived a life worse than mine. But suffering is relative, and that doesn’t invalidate that my life was shit. Why should you feel invalidated? You can’t ever experience life through another’s eyes - hence man’s fascination with altered states - and it’s pointless to compare yourself to others. Your feelings of joy, happiness and mirth are all valid. Why can’t your negative emotions be?

Anyways, I'm going to head to the cafe and do some work. I won't check this thread for a while. I could see us having a penpal correspondence or something akin to that. Why don't you just email your reply to burningdumpsterman@gmail?

[Anonymous No.11037531]

>>11037463
>>11037463
What's the purpose of publishing a biography then?

If it's clarifying and contextualizing, why does there have to be an arbitrary character limit?

You don't simply arrive at a destination anon. Sometimes, people just want to talk about what's keeping them down so they can get it off their chest. You seem resentful of people who do any of the above. You don't seem like a very happy person yourself if you have to bring others down on an anonymous imageboard full of insecure outcasts.

You need some pot (the green kind) because you are a little too much like the black kind. Godspeed my friend.

[Anonymous No.11037580]

>>11037451

Have you ever tripped on psychedelics? With your load they could be really good for you but they can be a living nightmare if it goes the wrong way. I did LSD and Shrooms and had really insightful experiences but never went too far with the dose because of my fear of having a bad trip. Have you ever experienced a bad trip?

If I were you (i dont know your experience) i would be quite prudent with psychedelics and mindfulness too. I know some people that had some kind of psychotic break or panic attack only by doing mindfulness and one day It almost happened to me, so I stopped doing it since then. Idk just to remember you that you may be in a fragile mental spot and one of these experiences could make things even worse. Anyway I think the benefit they do usually outweigh the potential dangers but in your case I think they are the perfect tool to learn how to cope with your life.
Cant any of your half siblings help you a bit if they are in a way better economic position that you?

I will state again that you should be careful. What you mentioned about the relation you have with suffering and the peace you feel could be due to derrealization and I think its like playing with fire. I don't know you and you may be more level-headed that the ones I know IRL but I just wanted to say it just in case.

Anyway I hope everything turns out better that how you started, those "wasted" years rarely are they really wasted if you did not have at that moment any idea what path to follow, what is your major?

[Anonymous No.11037597]

>>11037463

While I agree about that life and the external physical world is never that complicated I don't see it when talking about our inner lives. The reality we construct with our brain to represent the world can be really messy and troubled if some things happened while you were yet developing. Not every time people talk about their problems do it with the intention of receiving a solution by the receiver, talking about your problems with other people is a useful activity on itself because you think and see your problems on a different way. Some times people just need to be listened to.

[Anonymous No.11037606]

I got diagnosed in uni too but I'm still not totally sold on if i have it or not. I never had to study or work hard to finish problems in grade school so I never learned how to study. I got through my first year of university fine but things were way too hectic after that to get by without studying. I accept my working memory is trash but is it because of ADHD or because I had yet to build it up to be usable?

In order to solve problems I took a different route of thinking than most other people, but usually resulted in a much more in-depth overview and understanding of the problem. So was it my working memory making me slower at solving problems, or that I had to go deeper into the problem? A lot of times doing so gave me much better answers.

I get that it's an easy metric to test your knowledge around but man does having a time limit fucking suck. Especially in engineering when the problems in senior courses legitimately do have an open-ended amount of "correct" answers. Why is the person who can think of 1 solution in X amount of time rewarded higher than a person who can think of 3 solutions but taking X+n time to converge all 3, even if it's at a faster rate?

Don't even get me started on how we're still using only pen and paper. If I had access to a keyboard to type my thoughts out instead of hand-write them, that alone would legitimately save me something like 20-40 minutes of time. Ugh.

[Anonymous No.11037609]

>>11037531

Your comment took the words right out of my mouth, the articulation was almost flawless, thank you!

[Anonymous No.11037610]

hint : smart people don't have smartphones.

[Anonymous No.11037620]

>>11037396
Thats interesting. I'm currently in my third year of a cs degree and I intend to finish it. It's not too difficult but i'm struggling more than i need to. but thats mostly due to my lack of motivation and ability to pay attention in class.
what are some of the things you are able to do where your impairment don't hold you back?
And if medication can't really help me than I don't really feel the need to get tested for ADD. I'd become more self conscious of myself knowing it. I think I'd rather be in denial if its not gonna get better anyway. but im not sure if thats the best way of handling it

[Anonymous No.11037629]

>>11037233
The Jungian approach is statistically one of the best, if not the best (and possibly even the only) approaches to helping INFJ (highly inventive/curious) people with their issues.

Through this I recently realized how insanely important having a meaningful creative outlet is for people of this type.

[Anonymous No.11037667]

>>11033061
I don't know my IQ. Once I was tested for the military service and the tester said that I am average intelligent.

I have a PhD in math. In Germany it allows me to put a "Dr." on my ID and other documents. Often I do not show and mention the "Dr." part. I never introduce myself as Dr. [Surname]. Sometimes I use it, especially when I give my personal data for medical treatment.

I have no problems to talk with people who understands math much less than me. I even can talk to a cat which is mostly a sequence of rhetoric questions like "Why are you so cute?" :3.

[Anonymous No.11037704]

smart people end up being creepy as fuck

[Anonymous No.11037758]

>>11033061
I don't think about my intelligence. I only care about achieving results and entertaining myself when I'm not working on something. As a consequence people sometimes remark that they think I'm smart or something. I guess in some way or another, it usually comes up somehow, and I use that to say stupid shit for comedy and then people don't think I'm actually stupid. So I benefit from have people think I'm smart for that reason. Other than that, there's no good reason to "flex" in front of people. You come across as a jerk, insecure, etc and if you feel the need to do so / are so focused on how smart you are, you probably are some combination of those things. Just fucking live your life

[Anonymous No.11037919]

>>11033061
I went to GATE in elementary school and always was able to read at a higher level than others. I did good in school. Always top 3 students in any classroom in any subject but as a person I feel like a total fucking clueless retard. Was I misdiagnosed as gifted?

[Anonymous No.11038118]

>>11037606

The impairment on working memory works on me this way: When doing any kind of equation/problem any sound can distract my attention making my memory of the values and other stuff of the problem disapear so I have to read them again, even with no sound its like I cant control when my short term memory is going to be erased, so I end up wasting a lot of time just staring at the paper in a cycle of: reading information - start to use them on the problem - the info is erased, so I have to look back again and this can go indefinitely... I think this is what people call mental fog but I am not sure, what I know is that I just feel slow and drugged when doing things like these and it doesnt allow me to plan or to follow instructions because I keep forgetting about the structure midway of finishing it so it even influences how I code my scripts even when I am quite good at programming...

The meds worked a couple of days, and they were my most productive days ever, Its worth a try to believe me, I just had the luck to be one of the non-respondents...

The time limit kills me, i have to do programming tests on paper and its just impossible because I need to compile and structure the code on my head but I just keep forgetting about it... I really feel like a retard sometimes for it, its just frustrating... I really dont think this is ADHD (ADD) and must be something similar but with a totally different cause.

It drives me nuts honestly, and the fact that the way university works coul be a lot better, most of the time I am unmotivated because I sit in class listening to useless shit when I could be learning that faster and better myself at home... And I haven't mentioned how much I hate group projects...

[Anonymous No.11038124]

>>11037620

Here is the response:
>>11038118

[Anonymous No.11038138]

>>11033061
>Do you (gifted) let other non gifted people know that you are?
The problem is when you're a kid you don't have any guile to speak of usually so other kids just see and know you're 'different', and kids can be just plain cruel, so you get shit for it regardless.

I'm 54 years old. My parents were clueless (mom=emotional problems, dad=bully) neither of them had any idea how to deal with me, all they knew is I was 'different'. Get me evaluated by the school district, are told I'm """gifted""". Also, have ADHD, but they conveniently never told me about that or did anything about it, figured I'd """grow out of it""", ha ha ha. Assholes.
"""Gifted""" is practically a death-sentence, if you're a kid.
Bullied continually by other kids. Beat up, etc. all the fucking time.
Got sent to private school through 8th grade. Only reason my brain isn't total mush.

Long story short.. don't try to be what """other people""" want you to be, it's a TRAP. Be who you are, own it.
DO learn to defend yourself physically though. DO avoid places where the so-called """normal""" people are, ***they are not your tribe***.
DO, if you can, learn to """pretend""" to be one of the average people, just so you can get through situations you can't otherwise avoid. May save your life.
Otherwise follow your own interests, don't let your natural talents go to waste, and above all else ***do not let fear stop you from doing something***. In fact if you're afraid of something, go out of your way to do it, defeat the fear. It's transformative.

Best of luck to you, OP.

[Anonymous No.11038148]

130-150 isn't gifted, it's a useful tool, still need to work like a maniac to achieve anything

now 160/180, thats "fuck you" brain power

[Anonymous No.11038154]

>>11038148
>tfw would work like a maniac if i knew how to induce mania

[Anonymous No.11038167]

Since middle school, most of my friends were also students in the gifted program, so we would discuss it from time to time. Looking back at the things that we did at the time, you can see that we were somewhat "ahead of the curve," I suppose. For example, back in 2012 when fake Facebook accounts were being banned en masse, we created an entire network of fake accounts and determined what caused the bots to flag one as illegitimate. We were 12 at the time, and occasionally we'll think back about how fucking weird that was and how no one else our age was doing anything like that. I suppose it didn't help that we all discovered 4chan when we were 10-11.
I remember in 8th grade, our history teacher told us that our class actually challenged him to teach in a way that was more in depth than the other students. He said that at times, he viewed us as equals, not just as students.
>>11038154
>tfw working on homework that's due in 2 hours and have hardly made any progress
but here I am, on 4chan

[Anonymous No.11038318]

>>11033061
Litterally no one cares, and that includes your friends. Your pride is showing, anon.

[Anonymous No.11038327]

>>11038138
>never told me about that or did anything about it, figured I'd """grow out of it"""
It's clear by this post you haven't really grown out of anything.

[Anonymous No.11038345]

I honestly don't try to show off, but by the end pretty much everyone pegs me as a genius.
I'm not a genius. I have no life and ranting about useless trivia is what I substitute for communicating.

[Anonymous No.11038608]

>>11033922
>having to invest four times as much as a neurotypical
Holy shit this. This has been a problem for me since early elementary school, but I've always been the smartest person in the room. I get As on tests though. But even still (I'm a freshman now) I spend like 4 times as long as I should on assignments and I have to get into a "flow" state to really get shit done (then I usually get things done twice as fast as average). I've always suspected I have ADHD, and now even moreso, but I find it's not helpful to adopt some label, especially to adopt it as part of my personal identity like so many people do now (it's a deadly trap).

[Anonymous No.11038611]

>>11033061
IQ is a jewish creation that only measures one type of intelligence. There's no real way to measure someone's overall intelligence and put a number on it.

[Anonymous No.11038808]

>>11038138

Yes my childhood and relationship with other kids was a living hell since I have any memory... It was frustrating because I had no single clue why people were picking on me or developing hate towards me constantly...

Thanks for the insight, I am trying to do almost all you mentioned and things improved over the last year, just coincided with the time of my life where less contact I had with people. Now that I am quite comfortable with my own company I can choose between going with people that does not do me any good or keep doing my stuff happily. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.11038810]

>>11038611
It's not about perfect but what's best right now. In the future we will scan and get a reading direct from the brain or genetics but we aren't at that point yet.

[Anonymous No.11038811]

>>11038611
It measures several types of intelligence though? Are you talking about some sort of noncognitive intelligences?

[Anonymous No.11038814]

>>11038611

>Laughs on G factor

[Anonymous No.11038816]

>>11033061
In my experience being super intelligent is actually a curse because the world is full of retards. /thread

[Anonymous No.11038822]

>>11038814
It's composed of several parts though, it's not 'one thing'

[Anonymous No.11038909]

>>11034382
the teacher of a hundred generations

[Anonymous No.11039059]

>>11035357
Try ruling out magnesium or copper deficiency.

[Anonymous No.11039062]

>>11035357
Try ruling out copper deficiency.

[Anonymous No.11039072]

>>11033453
I am so sorry for your wasted potential.
300 feet starting any rooftop you want

[Anonymous No.11039167]

>>11039072
It must suck getting rejected from jobs for being ugly.

[Anonymous No.11039171]

>>11039072
This picture has influenced my career more than I'd like to admit.

Freshman me: I will graduate and immediately get a PhD and become a researcher!
Sophomore me: I still want to be a PhD but I want to see what else there is.
Junior me: I want to work in finance, but I'll get a PhD eventually
Senior me: I'm working in finance and I'll likely never get a PhD

Fear really is the strongest emotion.

[Anonymous No.11039174]

>>11039062

Thanks, I checked it but I rarely get sick (like 3-6 times on the last 3 years) so would that be a reason to rule it out?

[Anonymous No.11039176]

>>11034414
>>11034407
At least you guys can grow muscle. It's been years since i've been on diets and routines but still look like difribillated chicken. Life's just suffering.

[Anonymous No.11039183]

>>11039176
I already told you, muscleposter, muscle doesn't matter in this world of technology. Come to south america and you can spend what you spend on meme diets on hookers instead. And given that you are white and educated, you may not even need the hookers.

[Anonymous No.11039187]

>>11039174
No. Not at all. Start placing some copper wire into your drinks and see if things improve over time.

[Anonymous No.11039292]

coming on what seems severely infested forum of braindead individuals, claiming to have 140 + iq.

A bit strange isn't it ?

[Anonymous No.11039301]

>>11039292
KYS

[Anonymous No.11039315]

>>11033345
doesn't this post make three?

[Anonymous No.11039320]

>>11033745
you have completely missed the point of that entire post. please read it again

[Anonymous No.11039340]

>>11036900
you've got those reversed. the cerebellum is the thing that looks like a smaller brain at the back. also it would be a pretty significant over-generalization to say that either have nothing to do with the other function.

[Anonymous No.11039342]

>>11039292

Things are not always the way they appear to be :)

[Anonymous No.11039353]

>>11039320

I know, I realized that later when the Vyvanse wore off...

[Anonymous No.11039380]

>>11039340
>you've got those reversed.
no, I don't.
>the cerebellum is the thing that looks like a smaller brain at the back.
Yes, and it's also the place where the majority of brain neurons is packed and where higher thought happens.

[Anonymous No.11039618]

Never been formally tested but I probably have a high IQ which is severely repressed by trauma. My sister‘s psychologist predicted her IQ to be 140 if her processing speed was consistent with her other results (which it wasn’t since she suffers from a form of dyspraxia). Years of putting others before myself and contorting my personality to keep the peace in my multiple neglectful and abusive households turned me into a sponge. When I’m in regular company of intelligent friends, have low stress, and are not in contact with my family, my cognitive abilities skyrocket. Around my sister, my speech slows and I process things slower. Around my Dad, I cannot string together full sentences (you may have noticed my current writing style is somewhat impaired) because I subconsciously mirror his erratic attention span the way anyone would mirror body language. I don’t take MBTI too seriously but it’s almost as if my cognitive functions (ENFJ when I’m free from family burdens) change according to the company I keep.

[Anonymous No.11039622]

>>11039618
I don't feel bad for you

[Anonymous No.11039637]

>>11039622
I’m not looking for sympathy

[Anonymous No.11039643]

>>11039618
i know tf, being around smart people makes me smarter

[Anonymous No.11039669]

>>11033061
I just stay humble and pretend I worked a lot to be good at studying.

[Anonymous No.11039769]

>>11034059
>>>/fit/52618546

[Anonymous No.11039903]

>>11034276
Name the subreddits anon

[Anonymous No.11039941]

>>11039072
He was a qualified engineer and didn't find a job other that in a callcenter? Why would a retarded person get a PhD? Someone explain this bullshit!

[Anonymous No.11040119]

>vocabuarly

[Anonymous No.11040373]

>>11033333
Have the gods spoken?

[Anonymous No.11040393]

>>11033061
ITT: larping brainlets

[Anonymous No.11040529]

I don't reveal my real self to anybody except my family and ultra close friends. I really only have one true friend and we've never even met in real life.

[Anonymous No.11040567]

>>11033061
Many anons here complain about the social difficulty of being intelligent but I met some people in uni that were socially adjusted while also being smart as fuck and not shy about it.

I think it makes social life considerably more difficult especially when you're young, but you can balance things if you know what you're doing. I just wish I realized this sooner so I could put more effort into it, I guess it's hard to understand things that way when you're just a kid.

[Anonymous No.11040573]

You IQtards realize that it's a sign of stupidity to think you are "gifted"?

[Anonymous No.11040593]

>>11040567
Yeah, being a lonely depressed fuck who can't talk to people is entirely orthogonal to being smart. People just want an excuse to not improve themselves.
>normies are too DUMB for me to talk to
As if. Anons need to stop huffing their own farts and actually try having a conversation once in a while.

[Anonymous No.11040603]

>>11033061
It's no "gift" realizing just how incredibly stupid the hordes of people you're constantly surrounded by really are.

[Anonymous No.11040650]

>>11033061
If asked I'll tell people that I know a little bit about a lot of things, because I'm just smart like that. I'm very talented with languages, so I just hung around bars with baby boomers and practiced speaking with a normal reading level until people found me charming. I had it down by age 25 or so.
Personally, my parents are both quite bright and I get to talk to them multiple times a week about smart people things. I'll let you know how I fare once they're dead.

[Anonymous No.11040695]

>>11040567

I am satisfied that I realized and work on that before ending college, It would have been awesome knowing what I know now as a kid/young teenager because I was totally clueless about everything.

[Anonymous No.11040738]

>>11040593
>>11040603
lmao

[Anonymous No.11040747]

Yes.
I make sure to preface conversations with my status as a chosen individual so people know they're meant to respect me

[Anonymous No.11040950]

>>11040747

I didn't mean that at all, it would be the dumbest thing someone could do. hell no.

[Anonymous No.11041000]

>>11033543
1) you know that medication & therapy often even negate any negative cognitive impairment of ADD right? 2) you know that an ADD person testing at 130 untreated might well end up in the 140ies once the working memory etc. is unlocked right? 3) you know that 15% of people above 130 are under achievers?
Whatever you mean by 'true' giftnedness, there is no same definition that wod exclude add people.

[Anonymous No.11041071]

Hello anons, after seeing this thread I took two IQ tests on 123tests.com with the first stating I would have an IQ range from 127 to 143 and the second stating 125 or higher. Of course I don't think these are reputable but I don't want to undermine myself equally, should I pay for a more reputable one online or directly take a Mensa IQ test in my region? I guess you could regard me as low IQ for asking for advice from anon faggots, but everyone in my immediate position displacement is a moron.

[Anonymous No.11041124]

>>11041071

What do you want to know? With those results you may well be around 130-140 or a bit less. The thing is that the score rarely stays still so at best you will know around what range you are. I see them on SD of +15, then upper or lower and that approximation will be enough for you, i don think you could notice a difference of less than 15/10 points between two persons. Why do you want the exact number? (which will fluctuate no matter what)

[Anonymous No.11041180]

>>11041124
I think I would just like the validity of knowing I am higher IQ from a known reputable source, and from a test that isn't 10 - 30 questions, I guess though that the worth of the test comes down to how much I value knowing I'm not an idiot. It's probably probable that I'm not dumb though.

[Anonymous No.11041434]

So much cope here

[Anonymous No.11041437]

If you feel the need to flaunt it, you aren't smart.

[Anonymous No.11041455]

>>11033333
What a waste

[Anonymous No.11041467]

>>11033499
i'm in my 30s now and life is really, really good.
teenage years were an absolute hellscape though.
it didn't help that i had substance abuse issues and spent a lot of time acquiring and using drugs with sub-80 iq losers.

[Anonymous No.11041522]

>>11041180

I did that test and the result was near my "official" IQ. Do multiple tests from different sites and watch the mean value. This is one of the most "reliable" i know because was quite accurate with all of my friends who did it. http://www.iqtest.dk/

> Dont forguet that some learning dishabilties like ADHD usually mask your real IQ.

I am telling you this in case you get a low score and you then think you have finally the proof that you were dumb. All my life I thought I was dumb, they tested me as a kid and for what my family remember i think I got like +-120. Then later on I started having serious problems staying afloat academically and during those years until my 2nd year of uni I was really convinced and frustrated about the fact that I was a failure because of how dumb I was... Luckily (its a long story) at some point I had reasons to think I was not rally dumb and got tested (tasking into account my ADHD) and my score was definitely accurate now that I look back, what a wonderful school system we have that they managed to really convince about how a failure with no future I was.

[Anonymous No.11041696]

>>11041071
those tests are shit. do the mensa.no one, it’s somewhat decent. or do iqtest.dk and substract something like 5 points.