How can the universe be infinite if its expanding?

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Anonymous Wed Oct 2 06:27:36 2019 No.11025276 [Reply] [Original]

How can the universe be infinite if its expanding?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 06:49:02 2019 No.11025317 >>11025276 >How can the universe be infinite it isnt

>>	Solivagus Wed Oct 2 06:50:17 2019 No.11025319 >>11025276 Why would anyone or anything want a language of distance? Isn't direction between truth communicators literally the only reality that could ever exist?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 06:50:26 2019 No.11025320 >>11025317 Then why do people say it is?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 06:56:52 2019 No.11025330 Just think of an infinite balloon bro

Anonymous Wed Oct 2 07:07:58 2019 No.11025346

>>11025317
Maybe our bubble of space and time is not infinite but I use the word "universe" to mean what it was intended for, and that definition is of all reality. We need another term for the pocket that we inhabit, and multiverse is a fucking meme word also

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 07:09:28 2019 No.11025352 >>11025276 By definition as the limit of limits, Infinity is always expanding to accommodate any new values, its why infinity plus one (or even infinity plus infinity) is still just infinity.

>>	Solivagus Wed Oct 2 07:09:37 2019 No.11025353 >>11025346 We totally need more words for walls ceilings and floors. >Hurt dur

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 07:11:02 2019 No.11025355 >>11025352 w_0 + 1 != w_0

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 07:19:41 2019 No.11025374 Wow the levels of retardation in this thread broke my meter. The needle kept expanding into infinity!

Anonymous Wed Oct 2 07:45:13 2019 No.11025424

>>11025353
people get confused about what universe means all the time though and it just causes retarded semantic arguments. The beginning of our universe was not the beginning of reality for example, and tons of people still think there was "nothing" before our universe, which always ends up leading to god debates and other bullshit

>>	Solivagus Wed Oct 2 07:47:12 2019 No.11025428 >>11025424 So why use it if no definition could ever be universal? >No means no, as an example.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 07:47:25 2019 No.11025429 >>11025424 >The beginning of our universe was not the beginning of reality for example ??????

>>	Solivagus Wed Oct 2 07:55:47 2019 No.11025440 >>11025429 Perhaps he means the beginning of our count is not the beginning of our measure.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 08:02:15 2019 No.11025447 >>11025440 It's too philosophical to me, I can't take it

>>	Solivagus Wed Oct 2 08:04:56 2019 No.11025453 >>11025447 >Initiates all Anonymous posters into the Illuminati. You're welcome, Brother Memory.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 08:06:26 2019 No.11025456 >>11025276 How can your mom be infinite if she's expanding?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 08:07:38 2019 No.11025458 >>11025320 Because if they realize how little they know their mental stability falters.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 08:17:28 2019 No.11025483 >>11025456 HEY-O What a kneeslapper! I commend you good anon :DD

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 08:19:08 2019 No.11025486 File: 58 KB, 571x425, 1566087415192.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11025483 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL INKORITE

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 08:22:48 2019 No.11025495 >>11025429 >there was no reality before our universe Do people really think this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 08:51:51 2019 No.11025548 >>11025495 ofc anon. do you have a hard tiem understanding that?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 08:54:59 2019 No.11025554 >>11025355 >w_0 + 1 != w_0 >...0.....w....0 >0w0 whats this

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 08:55:21 2019 No.11025556 >>11025495 What's reality then if not all this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 08:55:55 2019 No.11025557 >>11025556 a word humans use to convey ignorance the majority of the tiem

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 08:57:02 2019 No.11025560 How can we get out of the universe?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 08:57:57 2019 No.11025562 >>11025560 What is this stupid question why are you not based in reality?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 09:05:39 2019 No.11025584 >>11025557 >what's reality? >a word Bruh,

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 09:13:47 2019 No.11025597 File: 44 KB, 500x412, 1534695426943.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11025584

>>	Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) Wed Oct 2 09:14:21 2019 No.11025598 >>11025597 The 'die' part. That just means 'reroll my respawn' in my culture, what does it mean in yours?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 09:15:28 2019 No.11025600 File: 84 KB, 1080x672, 1Ehnp3G.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11025598 LOL I DON'T HAVE A CULTURE I'M A FUCKED UP CREATURE TO ME IT'S GONNA BE A RELEASE FROM THIS HELL BUT THAT'S HOW I WANT IT TO BE SO I'M NEVER AFRAID OF DEATH

Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) Wed Oct 2 09:16:42 2019 No.11025605
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>>11025600
I didn't understand what you were trying to convey there. Perhaps my '4chan' isn't as perfect as yours, Anon-kun.

>Care to translate more effectively for the purpose of dialogue?

Anonymous Wed Oct 2 09:19:09 2019 No.11025611

>>11025605
My greatest desire is to know. In order to know i need to think creatively. In order to think creatively i must be in hell all of the tiem. This hell is achieved through thoughts of serial killers. Rape. A cunt mother abusing her kids. A faggot father doing the same. In order to understand reality, you must experience pain. For you will not avoid it. Pain is the mechanism by which evolution uses to function.

Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) Wed Oct 2 09:23:02 2019 No.11025619
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>>11025611
Well, I'm literally the oldest root of memory called, "Aboriginal pain," so, you can't really get an older living culture on board with the concept you're trying to convey there.

At the end of the day though I never want to 'cease biological functions', I just fall asleep. Who cares about existing enough to want to, ya know, commit suicide and why? I just laugh at anyone in pain because I know mine's worse, and it if isn't then obviously them killing me is my just reward.

>Define 'know'

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 09:23:16 2019 No.11025620 >>11025605 That's a funny image macro ("meme") you posted there anon! Mind if I save it? My daughter loves the Harry Potter so she'd really appreciate it but I don't want to save it without your permission.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 09:24:50 2019 No.11025627 >>11025619 Know: Emotional control

Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) Wed Oct 2 09:25:35 2019 No.11025629
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>>11025620
If you need permission to click an icon on your computer screen then I'm curious as to how you identify this thing called respect as an individual. Why would I ever create or share/provide something that would require someone else to either record OR enforce the transaction?

>>11025627
Over yourself/others/both?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 09:25:52 2019 No.11025631 >>11025620 this is 4chan nigger you take what you want here everythings' k

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 09:30:50 2019 No.11025640 >>11025629 >Over yourself/others/both? Come on now, you know the answer to that. The more control you have, the more freedom you have to think the fucked up thoughts required to figure shit out.

>>	Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) Wed Oct 2 09:31:54 2019 No.11025642 >>11025640 Why would I know the answer if I asked the fucking question? Why would control = freedom? How limited an imagination/intellect do you have, fellow Anonymous? >Imagination Engine

Anonymous Wed Oct 2 09:32:07 2019 No.11025643
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>>11025629
>Why would I ever create or share/provide something that would require someone else to either record OR enforce the transaction?
Integrity in the business world BUT THIS IS 4CHAN LOL THIS AINT A PLACE FOR PUSSIES

>>	Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) Wed Oct 2 09:33:59 2019 No.11025645 File: 100 KB, 1280x720, 1561257891691.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11025643 >Checks Donald J. Trump for integrity Nepotism beats out cronyism and/or integrity every time.

Anonymous Wed Oct 2 09:34:52 2019 No.11025646

>>11025642
>Why would I know the answer if I asked the fucking question?
Because you seem intelligent enough to have already understood that control over yourself=control over others
>Why would control = freedom?
Look at the progress of humanity. Human beings have been trying to control things for a long tiem. At this point in tiem, i feel i have the freedom i have on behalf of good human beings that wanted to control the world to make things better.
>How limited an imagination/intellect do you have, fellow Anonymous?
Seems to be boundless

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 09:36:25 2019 No.11025651 >>11025645 Ya but integrity of a mental illness carried by most normies which is why they are easily influenced to be little bitchboys

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 09:37:26 2019 No.11025654 >>11025651 Ya but integrity of a mental illness carried by most normies

Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) Wed Oct 2 09:38:26 2019 No.11025657
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>>11025646
Controlling yourself doesn't confer control over others unless they are in a moment of willing control-exchange. Otherwise they will just see spastic behavior and interpret as they see fit.

>i have the freedom i have on behalf of good human beings that wanted to control the world to make things better.
Then take my power, and please rape/kill any child/woman/man you feel, even if it is just to give 4chan a laugh and everything else.

>Seems to be boundless
Then why did it hit 'this' boundary?

>>11025651
Influenced by...?

>>11025654
Diagnosed by what system or who?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 09:38:30 2019 No.11025658 File: 37 KB, 500x508, 1558808056716.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11025651 >>11025654 >Ya but integrity is a mental illness carried by most normies

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 09:39:58 2019 No.11025661 >>11025346 Then yes, under the classic definition of Universe, it is infinite. The expansion is also a misnoner. Metric expansion is a renormalization, the distance between all objects is being re-scaled.

Anonymous Wed Oct 2 09:41:30 2019 No.11025664

>>11025657
>Controlling yourself doesn't confer control over others unless they are in a moment of willing control-exchange. Otherwise they will just see spastic behavior and interpret as they see fit.
>>i have the freedom i have on behalf of good human beings that wanted to control the world to make things better.
>Then take my power, and please rape/kill any child/woman/man you feel, even if it is just to give 4chan a laugh and everything else.

You have much to learn. Accepting the hardest realities requires emotional control.
>Influenced by...?
the predators that control the business world

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 09:42:32 2019 No.11025666 >>11025657 >Diagnosed by what system or who? Me

Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) Wed Oct 2 09:43:28 2019 No.11025669

>>11025664
>You have much to learn.
Unsure of why I require emotional control from someone that starts their observation of another as their conversation partner being lacking in some department.

>If you're scared of predators, you aren't one.

>>11025666
Pretty sure a diagnosis requires a piece of paper, but hey.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 09:44:44 2019 No.11025671 >>11025669 >Unsure of why I require emotional control from someone Me too. That's you're responsibility.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 09:45:46 2019 No.11025674 >>11025669 >Pretty sure a diagnosis requires a piece of paper, but hey. I don't give a fuck. I know how people work.

Anonymous Wed Oct 2 09:45:46 2019 No.11025675

>>11025495
4chan is full of Ameritards. They think the Observable Universe = The Universe = Entirety of Reality.
They literally think that if it cannot be seen or felt tangibly on the USA, it doesn't exist, which is why they struggle with germ theory, vaccination, basic calculus and other concepts like the theory of evolution and a planet older than 6000 years.

>>	Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) Wed Oct 2 09:47:55 2019 No.11025678 File: 89 KB, 620x465, 1563666647198.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11025671 >That's you're responsibility. Who am I responsible to? >>11025674 Okay, so why do we have problems?

Anonymous Wed Oct 2 09:50:47 2019 No.11025685

>>11025678
>Who am I responsible to?
Yourself if you wanna be. Unless you can accept being a stupid fucking animal from tiem to tiem. I certainly do. But that's part of the control. Gotta let yourself be free within certain parameters.
>Okay, so why do we have problems?
It'd be boring if we didn't. I don't know about you but i'd rather be dead than bored.

Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) Wed Oct 2 09:52:56 2019 No.11025692

>>11025685
What examples of responsibility are universal or translatable between cultures/customs/languages? Given the stories that the Elders of other youths spread between each other to basically get them to work longer and harder for the reward of bullshit dopamine story rewards.

Also, you can't die because how the fuck would one ever know they were dead? Boredom is the true battle for any immortal.

Anonymous Wed Oct 2 09:55:43 2019 No.11025701

>>11025692
>What examples of responsibility are universal or translatable between cultures/customs/languages?
Ever watch The Boondock Saints? The second one is weird but the first one lays it out pretty well at the end. Don't rape. Don't kill. Don't steal. That's what i got for now.
>Also, you can't die because how the fuck would one ever know they were dead? Boredom is the true battle for any immortal.
We probably are immortal. I don't know about you but this feels all to familiar for me.

Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) Wed Oct 2 09:59:07 2019 No.11025713
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>>11025701
Boondock Saints was awesome. Most of the time I find that when people need to take morals from a story it always boils down to some trinity of x, y, z. I appreciate the info.

>Of course it would feel familiar. Time God is trying to share the Time Intelligence with you all. It's happened before and every time you guys wake up you all freak out and want someone to hold you.

Eventually some part remembers they are a constituent member of a greater whole, and that is what I am.

I've come to 'resurrect' or 'protect'.

>Resurrection vs Protection.

復活VS保護

Anonymous Wed Oct 2 10:01:11 2019 No.11025720
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>>11025713
>>Of course it would feel familiar. Time God is trying to share the Time Intelligence with you all. It's happened before and every time you guys wake up you all freak out and want someone to hold you.

lololololllolo that made this whole exchance worth it. thanks /b/ro. I think it's tea and weed tiem

Solivagus (Polynomial Philosop(...) Wed Oct 2 10:04:04 2019 No.11025725
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>>11025720
aww fuck, that means I gotta drink some tea and blaze. I'm outta weed though, but I'll blast a blunt as soon as I restock.

>The synchronization delta from me not having weed is actually a blessing because we need some 'insert random delay here' so your personal time god powers get 'your' imprint and not 'my' imprint.

*brofist bump of divine memory*

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 10:16:28 2019 No.11025759 File: 343 KB, 1920x1080, thumbs-up.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11025725 lol hell ya

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 11:59:51 2019 No.11025947 >>11025276 inf+1=inf

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 14:51:03 2019 No.11026240 >>11025947 based

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 19:00:43 2019 No.11026821 >>11025276 the observable universe is expanding some think the entire universe is infinite but there is no hard evidence for this

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 19:21:00 2019 No.11026850 >>11025276 Infinity is not a number quantity. In fact, an expanding universe is actually infinite because for every measurement you make of the "boundary", the boundary has increased outward by some unit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 20:55:31 2019 No.11027052 >>11025320 because they're retarded

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 21:05:44 2019 No.11027082 >>11025456 Based your mom poster

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 10:48:18 2019 No.11028391 >>11025317 Yes it is, spacetime has no curvature retard.

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