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/IQ/ - general Anonymous Sun Sep 15 12:41:17 2019 No.10975441 [Reply] [Original]

Now since anyone posting in IQ threads seems to be below the required threshold for making a general thread, I made this one for you.

You're welcome.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 15 12:45:03 2019 No.10975451 File: 119 KB, 583x482, 1561930048676.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >another IQ thread general edition I've been thinking about this for a while, to make a containment thread for all IQ pseudocience shit

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 15 12:46:33 2019 No.10975457 >>10975451 Sort of like /pol/. I'm gonna bet that all the "muh IQ" posters will conformly appreciate this general.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 15 13:15:54 2019 No.10975534 IQ is just pattern recognition.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 15 15:55:34 2019 No.10975950 good, bc im tired of seeing so many boring IQ circlejerk threads

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 15 15:57:16 2019 No.10975954 How does IQ correlate with Putnam results?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 15 16:03:31 2019 No.10975978 >>10975451 IQ might be Considered pseudoscience but that doesn't mean it's invalid. That's the real Brainpill

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 15 19:55:54 2019 No.10976545 how do you increase IQ?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 15 20:04:42 2019 No.10976566 >>10975534 Intelligence can be boiled down to pattern recognition.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 15 20:05:51 2019 No.10976571 >>10975954 No one knows. The vast majority, if not all people that took the Putnam exam have never had an IQ test.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 15 20:34:17 2019 No.10976657 File: 66 KB, 741x643, iq-by-college-major-gender.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10975451 Not believing in IQ is a low-IQ cope.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 15 20:37:18 2019 No.10976666 >>10976657 Believing spurious correlations is a low-IQ cope.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 15 20:41:57 2019 No.10976673 >>10976657 The first source is just a table of estimated IQ based on what appears to be nothing in particular, while the second is just a list of how many degrees awarded within each discipline and level by gender.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 15 21:02:15 2019 No.10976706 >>10976666 >t. -30 IQ

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 15 21:06:22 2019 No.10976714 File: 2.52 MB, 640x360, butt blasted.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10976706 t. butthurt over getting BTFO'd by digits (p = 0.001)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 11:39:18 2019 No.10977941 File: 129 KB, 1080x1920, 1568643794663.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I know it's been posted already

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 11:43:41 2019 No.10977948 File: 107 KB, 1080x1920, Screenshot_20190916-171702.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10975441 ???

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 11:46:42 2019 No.10977954 >>10975534 You've never really taken an IQ test, right? I mean, with a psychologist. It's much more than pattern recognition, it has several stages and you get a very comprehensive view of your intellect

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 11:51:27 2019 No.10977968 >>10977954 Now tell that to the pseuds who think they're geniuses because they scored 145+ on one of those free, online and pattern-recognition only tests.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 11:58:52 2019 No.10977984 >>10977968 I do all the time, but the thing is a real IQ test with a specialist can be quite expensive, so you can't blame them for taking those shitty online bs

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 12:31:52 2019 No.10978063 >>10977948 it's D

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 12:44:30 2019 No.10978084 >>10977941 >>10977948 do i go from top to bottom or left to right? and is it 3 different sequences with 2 solved or are all 9 part of 1 sequence?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 12:47:06 2019 No.10978090 >>10978063 How ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 13:03:58 2019 No.10978120 >>10978084 You do realize you can go diagnoally, right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 13:05:52 2019 No.10978126 >>10978120 so these puzzles are anything goes? like I can even do some weird sequence like 3,4,1,2,7,5,6,9,8 if the numbers of balls and lines add up to a specific sequence?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 13:07:15 2019 No.10978132 >>10977941 it a

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 13:14:40 2019 No.10978152 >>10975451 >IQ pseudocience shit can you even falsify it? I thought so.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 13:15:43 2019 No.10978155 >>10975534 The whole evolution of humankind is just pattern recognition. Even your statement is just pattern recognition!

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 13:17:12 2019 No.10978158 File: 389 KB, 869x3565, 1565391148850.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10976657

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 13:20:25 2019 No.10978166 >>10977941 Its C

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:19:50 2019 No.10978278

>>10977941
D.

I actually had trouble the first time I first saw this question but now I understand, all you have to do is decompose each symbol at the top, then move those parts along a certain diagonal.

You can guess what part move along wich diagonal by checking the two elements following in a single diagonal a symbol.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:36:43 2019 No.10978321 Do you guys have some obscure mensa test? I've done all the known ones: -uk -no -dk -sweden -france -finland

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:57:14 2019 No.10978375 File: 30 KB, 387x597, Annotation 2019-09-16 205606.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why`?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 15:01:12 2019 No.10978389 >>10978375 >another xor puzzle

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 15:15:57 2019 No.10978439 File: 264 KB, 960x640, 1557869412201.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10978278 I still don't get it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 15:18:34 2019 No.10978444 >>10977948 where are these from?

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 15:19:42 2019 No.10978448

>>10978439
Look left to right = top row, picture 1, 2 and 3.

If the line is in a certain place in picture 1 and 2, it wont be in picture 3. If a line is in picture 1, but not in picture 2, it'll be in picture 3 (and reversed if it is in picture 2, but not in picture 1). If it's not in picture 1 nor picture 2, it wont be in picture 3. The same goes for the columns.

This is called a xor operation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclusive_or

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 15:32:29 2019 No.10978470 >>10978448 Are you sure you're responding to the right post? I don't see how it's related to >>10977941

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 15:34:05 2019 No.10978476 >>10977941 >>10978375 this is really easy >>10977948 this is autistic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 15:40:23 2019 No.10978493 >>10978448 Thank you

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 15:44:37 2019 No.10978509
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>>10978439
Pic related.

Broke down the symbol in 1 into a single part, this part move along two diagonals the one following (1-5-9) and the one following (1-6-8).

Now broke down the sybol in two into two different part, on consisting of the line at the top and the one at the bottom of the rectangle, and another one consisting of the line at the sides of said rectangle.

You move the up and down component along the diagonal (2-6-7) and the one with the sides along (2-4-9).

Finnaly the figure in 3 can be broken down into two as well, one line at the top of the symbol and another one looking like the one in 1 turned upside down.
You move the line along (3-5-7) and the other component along (3-4-8).

Every time two component fall in the same case they merge with each other to create a new one.

9 is the merging of the sides of the rectangle and the the symbol in 1, wich gives a M (D).

>>10978493
>>10978448
Please don't tell me I wrote this explanation for nothing, because it doesn't look like the pattern in >>10977941 but rather the one in >>10978375 .

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 15:54:30 2019 No.10978530 >>10977954 Is there a reliable website where one can take a comprehensive IQ test? What is the most "accurate" test for determining your IQ? Is there a website? Or can it only be accurately determined in-person with a psychologist?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 15:55:42 2019 No.10978534 >>10978158 >tfw 136 iq in a 111 iq major >>10978530 take a real test, what do u need a website for

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 15:56:46 2019 No.10978539 >>10978509 Excellent explanation anon and i'm sure it's correct. I have one question only , how did you think of this ? >>10977948 ??????????????????

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 15:57:24 2019 No.10978542 >>10978321 hungary to that list they also have a matrices culturally neutral test the peak is 126 i think though never done the french, finnish or uk tests though i only like matrices number problems and word problems are blatantly unfair

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 16:01:29 2019 No.10978550 >>10978539 >>tfw 136 iq in a 111 iq major That's just means you're going to be exceptional at your field anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 16:02:28 2019 No.10978553 >>10978509 how in the fuck do you come up with these patterns there has to be an easier one

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 16:04:22 2019 No.10978557 >>10976566 no memory is also cruical, both short and long term there is also conscientiousness which may not seem incredibly intellectual, but any feat worth mentioning is impossible without this trait but memory, very important

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 16:09:44 2019 No.10978574

>>10977941
D. It can be seen by e.g. double columns migrating left, single top line moving left, and double horizontal line going right.

>>10977948
D. It's just an AND except you flip it vertically at the end.

Where are these from, by the way? I'd love to try some more.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 16:13:45 2019 No.10978586 >>10978375 t. brainlet

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 16:28:03 2019 No.10978620
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>>10977941

B

Top row has a double "roof"

Second row has a double "roof" and a double "down pointer"

Third row should have double "roof" and double "down pointer" as well, and double something else. B satisfies this (double "floor")

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 16:30:08 2019 No.10978623 File: 139 KB, 920x590, 125 feletti.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10978542 Thanks can someone translate pic related to me? Seems like it says that I got 125 (the maximum possible score).

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 16:31:33 2019 No.10978625 >>10978623 yes, that's what it says exactly

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 16:32:00 2019 No.10978627 >>10978623 i suggest u copy it and put it in google translate u brainlet i think if u got everything right it just tells you ur iq is >125 so u could try the real thing

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 16:33:38 2019 No.10978635 >>10978625 (above 125)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 16:34:18 2019 No.10978638 >>10978627 Look at this retard, it's not a fucking screencap it's the actual jpg they gave me, and I have better things to do than try to tip some foreign alphabet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 16:35:59 2019 No.10978647 >>10978638 idk i remember the email i received had text with it could be wrong also that alphabet is not foreign it's pretty much just the latin alphabet

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 17:18:57 2019 No.10978759 >>10976657 [what iq tries to measure] => [high iq] not <=>

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 17:20:52 2019 No.10978763 >>10975451 I'm up for it. I think it would be hilarious to see tourists come to /sci/ and the first thing they see is an IQ general thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 05:50:12 2019 No.10980096 135 norway 133 denmark I think I’m doomed to be a low 130s brainlet for the rest of my life.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 07:56:10 2019 No.10980230 >>10978759 But a high IQ does imply better short-term memory, analytical thinking, mathematical ability and spatial recognition (the things IQ measures).

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 08:13:57 2019 No.10980263

>>10980230
I meant high IQ like high score on the test.
There are many ways to get a high score like memorizing the patterns, being lucky with the questions... and having all those things you've listed doens't imply success in research or entrepreneurship an so on because in order to use mental skills effectively you need some huge amount of creativity and out of the box thinking too which are both not measured in an IQ test.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 08:21:18 2019 No.10980274 >>10980263 That is fair. Many high IQ individuals prob waste their lives playing vidya.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 08:25:16 2019 No.10980280 >>10978530 Do it with a psych. Online IQ tests are a meme.

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 08:34:16 2019 No.10980299

>>10976657
>>10975451
IQ doesn't encompass all of intelligence and is often clung to by creativ-lets since IQ doesn't measure creativity. Yet it does still measure a portion of intelligence validly.

IQ tests also say I have a bad memory yet I've long mogged others by recalling obscure shit so this seems to be inaccurate somehow... I seem to struggle being told to memorize something specific and recalling it... but memorize and recall a ton of shit spontaneously. I did the block design portion of the IQ test faster than anybody the examiner had ever seen but I still got very little weighting for that.

IQ tests seems pretty lousy at gauging intelligence among people with mental illnesses specifically. E.G. Kim Peek was actually pretty dumb in a lot of ways but in other ways the biggest brain around but his IQ was decently below average.

Having a low or high IQ means just that. You have a low or high IQ. There's more to intelligence than IQ but if IQ isn't treated as valid at all you basically can't trust anything psychiatry or psychology says because it's all bigger bullshit than IQ.

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 08:39:45 2019 No.10980310

>>10980299
To use a specific example - I wasn't very good at school but I'm pretty much a chad at my job. I'm utter shit at being told to do a specific task and then accomplishing that task. If you put me to the test I tend to crumble. I wasn't BAD at school my IQ is still above average but I did worse than expectations.

Yet at work I'm one of the most creative employees so I'm always building new solutions and developing new tools and whatnot so my productivity is through the roof. I can easily outperform those as intelligent as me in terms of IQ simply because they struggle when not being told what to do. Yet if we're competing to accomplish a specific narrowly defined task I'll probably get beaten. It tends to take employers awhile to realize my nature but when they do they just leave me alone and I just shit out work.

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 11:09:02 2019 No.10980539

>>10980299
>>10980310
This hit close to home, since I'm also autistic and can can recognize myself in a lot of what you just described (poor memory but can recall a lot of shit).

I'm going to take an iq test this saturday, we'll see what my real iq is, wether I turn out being a brainlet or worse a normie.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 13:17:38 2019 No.10980747 >>10975451 >IQ pseudocience oxymoron

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 13:20:06 2019 No.10980753 File: 80 KB, 1272x800, 1502487106331.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hmmmm

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 13:32:57 2019 No.10980780

Does anyone know the answers conversions of this test?

It's a speed test iq that takes 8 minutes.

https://iqnexus.org/Graphics/Mag/Test/SpeedTest.pdf

>>10978539
>>10978553

Truth is though I couldn't understand/explain it the first time I knew it was D. Probably because by now I'm used to solve matrices.

The way I've done it the first time didn't really make sense.
Compared to the first "pattern" I've seen this one is way more rigorous.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 13:34:33 2019 No.10980786 >>10975457 nah they will still create separate threads they have low iq what do you expect

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 13:35:35 2019 No.10980791 >>10976657 it is bullshit simply because nobody takes IQ tests in college. the sample must have been 100 people.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 14:45:03 2019 No.10980920 >>10980753 >serbia that low Explains everything lol

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 14:54:55 2019 No.10980938
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>>10977941
you have to think of certain characteristics as appearing AT MOST once in each row and column. One characteristic is parallel horizontal lines. We can see those are already at b1, c2 and a3. So we can assume the figure wont have parallel horizontal lines, which rules out A, B and F. Another characteristic is an upward arrow. These are at c1, a2, and b3, so we can rule out C. This leaves D and M. From D and M we can rule out that we should look for downward arrows since they both have these. We can also rule out looking for parallel vertical lines as they both have these as well. We can rule out E because that would cause a single horizontal line to appear more than one in column c. As a corollary we can see that representation of vertical parallel lines is desired both in column c and row 3. Therefore the answer is D.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 15:08:24 2019 No.10980964 >>10980938 You're just arbitrarily picking things tho. There are downward arrows in two places in row 2. So why can't the answer be E? Who is to say one horizontal line is one of these characteristics? Very unconvincing argument.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 16:21:00 2019 No.10981112 >>10980964 Yeah you're right. I actually picked E on the test. for some reason I thought the "at most" thing would resolve my methodology. You have to admit that I did rigorously rule out A-C and F tho.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 17:07:49 2019 No.10981223 >>10977941 It's A brainlets

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 18:43:25 2019 No.10981451 >>10977941 C I counted the number of elements that each figure is made of. C=3 so that makes both diagonals equal 8 and also then the sum of the rows 9+11+9= 29 matches the sum of the columns 8+11+10=29

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 20:13:30 2019 No.10981698 >>10977941 >People write 200 words explanation to guess it wrong in the end It's always much more simple than you think, the answer is A. That's also one of the ideas of IQ test, to test efficiency.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 20:19:55 2019 No.10981720 >>10981698 >complaining about 200 word explanations >giving no explanation at all ah yes, surely thats the correct answer

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 20:33:44 2019 No.10981740 There is a correlation with higher iq and vaping with low nicotine. (over doing it is for retards, not doing it at all is for average iq, Nicotine boosts iq)

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 21:14:06 2019 No.10981808 I've been tested at 130 but i still feel fucking retarded, mainly because my memory recall sucks. How do fix my memory skills besides journaling and anki

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 00:16:48 2019 No.10982168 [math]I don't fucking care about IQ[/math] >[math]faggots care about IQ[/math] there

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 06:55:14 2019 No.10982688 Bumping for this >>10977941

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 13:23:43 2019 No.10983237 >>10981698 >much more simple Show your work then, faggot

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 15:41:00 2019 No.10983560 >>10980096 yeah just shut the fuck up, conceited dickhead.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 16:49:01 2019 No.10983719 >found old official IQ test from when i was 9 >tfw verbal IQ 120 >but performance IQ is 98 JUST

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 17:26:35 2019 No.10983793

>put into academically gifted program for science and math in middle school
>didn't know at the time but the IQ cutoff in the program was 130
>midway in the program, the advanced classes were getting too full so they moved some kids to our class since we had only eight students
>at the end of the year standardized tests, the advanced kids in our class on average scored a few points higher than the gifted students though overall we all did very well

I don't even know why I even remember that but I guess I found it interesting and humbling even at my young age. It was 8 of us versus 12 or so advanced kids so I'm guessing one of us just fucked up.

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 18:13:12 2019 No.10983926

>>10983719
VIQ > PIQ discrepancies over 1 standard deviation is found in over half of those diagnosed with high functioning autism, compared to 25% for the control group

>can't do calculus effortlessly with spatial 110 IQ
>verbally gifted 131 IQ so can
>too autistic to be social
>too autistic to work hard

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 19:13:22 2019 No.10984071 >>10977941 A hint: compare to a "full patterns" box and see whats missing...

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 19:59:28 2019 No.10984226 >>10978444 Mensa norway. They updated their tests and there are 2 questions that are absolute bs

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 20:17:09 2019 No.10984271 >>10975441 did finding out your iq ever help anyone succeed? you either do the work or you don't, don't use iq as an excuse not to try

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 20:33:31 2019 No.10984345 there is something hilarious about the very same people who deepthroat iq tests and their predictive power also discussing with each other strategies for approaching iq tests.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 20:40:27 2019 No.10984363 >>10983719 >be me, when I was a faggy pre-pubescent >takes IQ test spatial:140 (just perfectionism) math/number sequences:135 (it's easy) verbal interpretation: 108 memory:91 verbal: 95 general knowledge:112 why am I a verbal brainlet? Iq is 122

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 20:44:40 2019 No.10984376 >>10984271 most people on /sci/ are incompetent, suck at natural sciences so they use IQ as a cope. This why I don't trust IQ brainlets, they believe it's everything about them, and even they have an existential breakdown when they score average .

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 23:00:10 2019 No.10984835
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>>10984376
its more like the existential dread of knowing your limits. iq is basically the limit of what you can contribute intellectually. nobody whos 5'7 is gonna ball like shaq, nobody with iq<140 is gonna math like tao. if you arent making significant contributions then you are looking forward to a very forgettable life of metiocrity. if you dont have the hardware to make contributions then youre just fucked. hard to get out of bed in the moring as a midwit when youre just smart enough to realize what an insignificant midget you are

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 23:18:29 2019 No.10984863

Iv'e never gotten why people brag about IQ and success in life. IQ will surely help you academically, but in life it doesn't mean much (unless you are mentally retarded).

Most upper management i have met in the past 3 years since graduating are retards and yet make about 7 times more than people with math/science from prestigious universities.

I have met five people in my life who make anywhere between £500,000 - £5 million a year and not one single one of them had a degree, they all did niche apprenticeships and started their own businesses.

Pretty sure most executives at businesses aren't the brightest among us. Pretty sure the majority of celebrities aren't geniuses either.

Success in life comes down to luck, understanding people, and being great at pulling strings that make people tick - having just one of these is rare, having two of these inconceivable, and having luck is just down to randomness.

It's a sad truth, but unless you are a literal genius, your IQ won't make any significant impact on your life. You will graduate university and work among people with average IQ's in some shitty desk job, or worse is that you work with retards.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 23:19:02 2019 No.10984865 >>10975441 >he doesn't have a crispr kit to genetically enhance his IQ

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 19 12:55:45 2019 No.10985971 >>10984345 how do you know they are the very same people?

Anonymous Thu Sep 19 12:58:37 2019 No.10985974

>>10984835
it is not like iq>140 is guaranteed to make your life not forgettable. there are probably millions of high iq people around the world. and how many hive iq people how lived over the last few centuries? probably hundreds of millions. and nobody remembers them. they just suffered since they were surrounded by retards (from their perspective). fuck them.

Anonymous Thu Sep 19 13:23:33 2019 No.10986026
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I hate talking about IQ. I was tested once, because they thought I was retarded and they told me my intelligence is "above average". After browsing /fit/ for a while I did an IQ test getting 135. So I'm not a brainlet. I won't criticise IQ I'll just write about my thoughts.

We live in a society where intelligence is highly valuable. Being stamped down as dumb is almost a death sentence. Imagine just getting an IQ of 80 wich is the reallity of many. You won't have a good job, your children will be dumb too - good luck finding a good wife. It does not matter how hard you work, this value won't change.
I hate having high IQ. It takes all the value of my efforts. Doesn't matter if I teach myself to draw or how to play an instrument. The hard work goes to nothing as this is to be expected. With high IQ it just feels like you cannot succeed, just fail.

So fuck IQ. I hope all the research on it will be disproven and that your intelligence is in reallity mostly dynamic and can be trained.

Also.
Fuck you racists.
Fuck you egoists.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 19 14:11:25 2019 No.10986116 How many times can I drop a class in college

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 19 14:55:04 2019 No.10986224 >>10986116 how much money do your parents have?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 19 15:30:28 2019 No.10986307 >>10975441 Every IQ thread devolves into a /pol/ dick measurements thread.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 19 15:30:34 2019 No.10986308 >>10986224 Not much, why

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 19 16:03:45 2019 No.10986389 >>10975954 Aren't most people who take the Putnam just asians who have grinded out the style of questions asked on the test for years?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 19 16:12:15 2019 No.10986414 140 IQ here. IQ is worthless unless you are an actual genius (160+), it just alienates you from normal people and make your life miserable because you overthink everything.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 19 16:47:46 2019 No.10986543 >>10986414 You're probably correct, but I wouldn't trade my IQ for anything in the world. And I'm only 132.

Anonymous Thu Sep 19 16:52:12 2019 No.10986553

>>10986414
If you truly have a high IQ you are smart enough to mingle with people just fine. Intelligence is correlated with social skills. Even if you're autistic, you're not that smart if you haven't figured out an algorithmic way of interacting with people.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 19 16:55:00 2019 No.10986560 >>10986026 nigger

Anonymous Thu Sep 19 17:19:45 2019 No.10986614

>>10980753
This map is pretty stupid since average I.Q. is, by definition, 100. That is, the worldwide average I.Q. is, by definition, 100, with standard deviation being 15 above and below.

Pretty sure whoever created this map mixed up a bunch of different statistics to create something completely devoid of sense and push a racist agenda.

Anonymous Thu Sep 19 17:24:52 2019 No.10986623

I'd like to measure my IQ with an official test to find out whether my impostor syndrome is impostor syndrome or just symptoms of a brainlet forcing himself through a physics degree.

Britbongs got any recommendations? I'm foreign so I don't really know how things work here.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 19 17:40:16 2019 No.10986659 >>10986623 Do the Mensa's test. It's not complete but you'll know your spatial IQ.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 19 17:43:20 2019 No.10986667 >>10986553 >understanding people mean liking them

Anonymous Thu Sep 19 17:44:42 2019 No.10986671

My IQ as a senior in highschool was 141. That should have suggested that I had a bright future ahead of me. Surely I had potential to "really do something with my life". I got accepted into a pretty prestigious college doing computer animation. I didn't go for several reasons, the knowledge of extreme debt being one, having this sweet piece of pussy right down the road being the other. It turns out I'm as average as anyone else. I dream big, aisee patterns in all sorts of things, perhaps where there none. I have a mild delusional psychosis which I cannot shake.

I'm a complete outlier in my family. They are all average to below-average intelligence. They're also religious fundamentalists which was also a big hamper on any extra curricular education. I'm 33 now and my biggest regret in life is growing up with no mentors, a mere product of public education. Noone to guide me in any particular direction. I've just meandered through life.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 19 17:45:28 2019 No.10986675 >>10986623 If you really, really, really want to know exactly how you stack up, go to an actual fucking psychologist and take and actual fucking test. It takes multiple days because it's so long.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 19 17:52:22 2019 No.10986687 >>10986667 Pretty sure that the case with the another anon is not just that he dislikes people, but that he can't interact with them. It's really a lack of skill.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 19 18:01:30 2019 No.10986709 File: 489 KB, 470x456, 1517554168650.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10986026 >I hate talking about IQ. >proceeds to write a bunch of dumbshit text probably about IQ, and probably says he's super high IQ.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 19 18:38:38 2019 No.10986795 >>10986414 how is >160 better than >140? so you are a a 160 genius, now what? you'd experience the same alienation only on a much worse level. or worse yet, you'd become famous and would have to maintain a facebook page and reply to your fans.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 19 19:08:59 2019 No.10986874 >>10986795 Exactly. It's like saying "What good is it having an 8 inch dick when you could have a 12 inch dick"

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 19 21:48:00 2019 No.10987205 >>10986667 This. The brainlets argument don't account for this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 19 21:50:20 2019 No.10987216 >>10986671 I'm only 22 and i feel the same way, don't see how it can be changed honestly.

Anonymous Thu Sep 19 23:30:10 2019 No.10987395
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Hello /sci/ I am interning at a middle school as a sub teacher and I want to explain 7th graders how to derive the quadratic formula.
What do you think? Is this clear enough for them to get the main idea? (It is an AP algebra class). I made this derivation myself since a typical derivation you find on the web is too cryptic and doesn't explain the main idea well.

Problem: derive the solution of the quadratic equation [math]ax^2 + bx + c.[/math]
Our derivation is based on the identity: [math](a+b)^2 = a^2 + 2ab + b^2 \qquad (1)[/math]
Any quadratic equation can be transformed to the following form:
[math](x + m)^2 = d \qquad (2)[/math].
Why is it important? Because m and d are constants and we have to solve for just one unknown variable x by taking the square root on both sides:
[math]x + m = \pm \sqrt{d}[/math]
[math]x = -m \pm \sqrt{d}[/math]
Let's consider a simple example [math]x^2 + 6x + 5 = 0[/math]
How dow we convert it to the identity (1)? Well we can first re-write it as
[math]x^2 + 2\cdot x\cdot 3 + 5= 0[/math]
Notice the second term looks like the second term in (1) so b=3. But obviously [math]b^2[/math] then needs to be 9. So we can add 4 to both sides of the equation:
[math]x^2 + 2\cdot x\cdot 3 + 5 + 4 = 4[/math]
[math]x^2 + 2\cdot x\cdot 3 + 3^2 = 4[/math]
[math](x + 3)^2 = 4[/math]
This is the same as form (2). We can now solve it:
[math]x +3 = \pm \sqrt{4}[/math]
[math]x = -3 \pm 2[/math]
[math]x=-1, x=-5[/math]
Now we can apply the same technique to solving the general equation [math]ax^2 + bx +c = 0[/math]. We first divide by a:
[math]x^2 + \dfrac{bx}{a} + \dfrac{c}{a} = 0[/math]
Now we take [math]\dot{b} = \dfrac{b}{a}, \dot{c} = \dfrac{c}{a}; \qquad[/math] And the equation becomes:
[math]x^2 + \dot{b}x + \dot{c} = 0[/math]
Let's add a certain unknown number [math]d[/math] to both sides:
[math]x^2 + \dot{b}x + \dot{c} + d = d[/math]

Anonymous Thu Sep 19 23:31:13 2019 No.10987397

Let's rewrite it as
[math]x^2 + 2x(\dfrac{\dot{b}}{2}) + \dot{c} + d = d[/math]
To convert it to identity (1), we need to make sure
[math]\dot{c} + d = \left(\dfrac{\dot{b}}{2}\right)^2 \qquad(3)[/math]
Then we can rewrite our equation as
[math]x^2 + 2x\left(\dfrac{\dot{b}}{2}\right) + \left(\dfrac{\dot{b}}{2}\right)^2 = d[/math]
[math]\left(x + \dfrac{\dot{b}}{2}\right)^2 = d[/math]
[math]x = - \dfrac{\dot{b}}{2} \pm \sqrt{d}[/math]
Now we get [math]d[/math] from (3):
[math]d = \left(\dfrac{\dot{b}}{2}\right)^2 -\dot{c} = \dfrac{\dot{b}^2}{4}-\dot{c}[/math]
[math]x = - \dfrac{\dot{b}}{2} \pm \sqrt{\dfrac{\dot{b}^2}{4}-\dot{c}}[/math]
And unwinding our substitutions:
[math]x = - \dfrac{b}{2a} \pm \sqrt{\dfrac{b^2}{4a^2}-\dfrac{c}{a}}[/math]
[math]x = - \dfrac{b}{2a} \pm \sqrt{\dfrac{b^2}{4a^2}-\dfrac{4ac}{4a^2}}[/math]
[math]x = - \dfrac{b \pm \sqrt{b^2 - 4ac}}{2a}[/math]

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 19 23:35:10 2019 No.10987402 >>10987216 Which part?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 20 00:08:12 2019 No.10987476 >>10986414 Hahaha shut the fuck up. 192 IQ here. Same problem.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 20 03:32:37 2019 No.10987735 >>10976545 >how do you increase IQ? easy. study for the test and then take it >how do you increase intelligence? this is given at birth

Anonymous Fri Sep 20 04:28:16 2019 No.10987802
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Autistic fucks. Everyone has potential in certain things. Who fucking cares. Let stupid fucking psychologists worry about it and just live your lives you fucking moronic frog worshiping cuckolds. Quit worrying about a fucking metric that was made to weed out the mentally ill. You are all wasting your time as I just did declaring this thread's retardation.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 20 06:45:50 2019 No.10987952 is 136 enough to be 140+?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 20 07:00:45 2019 No.10987971 >>10977954 >>10977968 >>10978530 >>10975950 >>10977984 >>10978534 >>10980280 The real IQ test is not going to the psychiatrist as you should know your objective mental capabilities already if you are IQ > 120

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 20 07:12:47 2019 No.10987992 >>10987971 Most of this board (even the 140+ online IQ test score autists) aren't 120+. Plus, IQ is really incomplete and meaningless if you aren't retarded, so that's a really bogus statement.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 20 07:22:27 2019 No.10987999 >>10987992 I agree, but all individuals who would get 150 IQ on a real IQ test don't do those tests at all because of the reasons I mentioned.

Anonymous Fri Sep 20 07:35:58 2019 No.10988014
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>>10975441
IQ is outdated. Nobody in serious academic circles uses it anymore.

Gardner's multiple intelligence model is a more widely accepted measure of intelligence.

https://www.verywellmind.com/gardners-theory-of-multiple-intelligences-2795161

Anonymous Fri Sep 20 07:50:11 2019 No.10988036

>>10988014
>brainlet, can't do easy logic operations
>IQ IS OUTDATED!!1!!1!!1 INTELLEGENCE CAN BE SPLITED BY DIFFERENT KINDS, IQ IS A LIE!!!!1!1!1! BODY INT, NATURAL INT.

are u fucking srsly? Natural intellegence? what hell is that? Farming?
...
body int... oh damn

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 20 08:33:06 2019 No.10988107 http://test.mensa.no/ how accurate is this test?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 20 08:49:35 2019 No.10988131 >>10988036 ...I have 5 degrees including computer science majoring in machine learning...

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 20 08:55:47 2019 No.10988141 >>10988036 >body int what the actual fuck

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 20 09:07:39 2019 No.10988158 >>10988014 > verywellmind Such a credible source. The 'tard is strong in your post.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 20 10:49:44 2019 No.10988309 >>10987971 >IQ >Psychiatrist >Can't even differentiate a psychologist from a psychiatrist I think the true low IQ here is you

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 20 10:52:16 2019 No.10988315 File: 184 KB, 392x489, 1567732858303.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10988309 Sorry bro, I don't know names of useless professions

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 20 11:10:46 2019 No.10988346 File: 146 KB, 740x461, question for scientific magicians.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10975441

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 20 11:24:04 2019 No.10988362 >>10986414 >IQ is worthless It makes college a breeze so no.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 20 11:57:10 2019 No.10988405 >>10988362 >a breeze will it help you get laid? no. hows that a breeze then

Anonymous Fri Sep 20 12:24:37 2019 No.10988438

>>10988362
Yeah, not quite. IQ measures really specialized skills who don't say much about someone's intelligence beyond the retard threshold. The vast majority of high performing students have never taken an IQ test, so the correlation with their IQ and shit like grades or SAT score tells too little.
Reducing the cognitive ability of someone who's got above average intelligence to IQ is like reducing someone's mathematical prowess to how many pi digits they can recall. If you can't remember 3.14 you are probably not very bright. But if you are able to know the 200th digit you could either be smart, have good long term memory or just be an idiot savant. Given that, no one could say anything about you being able to understand something like, say, Topology.

Anonymous Fri Sep 20 12:35:20 2019 No.10988450
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http://test.mensa.no/

IS THIS TEST ACCURATE?
I got 131, honestly I feel stupid because im in the lower part of the third standard deviation, would feel much better if I scored 136+

the question were easy but I didnt have enough time. I ran out of time and had to blind guess the few last question.

am i going to make in a top tier computer science university?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 20 12:43:45 2019 No.10988466 >>10988450 It's not. No online test is reliable. Go to a psychologist and get a real one.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 20 13:09:53 2019 No.10988524 >>10976666 Nice quads holy shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 20 14:42:23 2019 No.10988749 >>10988450 That test is 30 extremely easy questions and 5 fuck you-questions. Needless to say, the brainlet filter is the last few questions.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 20 15:05:20 2019 No.10988789 >>10975441 lol i clocked in at 158, same as my father. feels good to be off the charts, knew it from first grade.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 20 15:20:38 2019 No.10988824 >>10985971 >>10985971 /pol/ is the only reason a general on iq threads is required. the people posting in this general frequently probably are from there

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 21 08:45:24 2019 No.10990611 File: 10 KB, 250x221, 1481482731768s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw 107

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 21 09:03:02 2019 No.10990631 >>10986614 The average IQ of Britain is set to 100. All other scores we see are relations to that. I have no idea what your comment was supposed to prove and I doubt you do either.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 21 09:04:04 2019 No.10990632 >>10988014 bait

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 21 09:15:14 2019 No.10990644 People who talk about their IQ like it is an achievement have never done anything of value so all they have is some pseudoscience normie shit that holds no true value of real intelligence or achievement.

Anonymous Sat Sep 21 12:34:23 2019 No.10991035

>>10990611
Don't fret anon. You're a completely normal human being as far as intelligence. The pinnacle in animal intelligence in the billions of years life has been on this planet. Just because a few members of your species are ever so slightly smarter than you makes little difference really. You're a god amongst animals.

Anonymous Sat Sep 21 13:30:53 2019 No.10991232

Just took the mensa actual test, couldn't do the last three questions of the numerical series.

But still I did pretty great (I think) for the two other parts and what I actually did on the series (all parts were on 20).

Probably going to get rejected but I think they are going to tell me that I'm arround 120-130 like I excepted.

Since I'm autistic the verbal reasoning part scared me a little, but this one was so fucking easy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 21 14:56:33 2019 No.10991477 >>10991232 >Since I'm autistic. Lmao enjoy your genius perceptual ability and working memory being dragged down into the abyss with your retarded verbal reasoning.

Anonymous Sat Sep 21 15:06:20 2019 No.10991512

>>10991477
I already know my working memory is shit (though I don't think my verbal reasoning is in the retarded range since I'm still pretty functionning, or maybe I don't realise how shit it is), but I've worked my long term memory with anki a lot and have a pretty good one by now.

Anonymous Sat Sep 21 19:32:51 2019 No.10992100
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Can you high IQ people give me a hint not the answer? Is it about XORing/combining 1 and 2 to get 3 on each row? Or column? Or is it about rotational patterns 1->2->3? Or neither?
No spoilers please.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 21 19:38:24 2019 No.10992112 >>10992100 1+2 combine and 1+2 spin 180 on an axis to make 3 and you'll need to figure out how to do 1+2 properly

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 21 19:48:39 2019 No.10992130 >>10992112 thanks anon. let me think about it

Anonymous Sat Sep 21 20:21:04 2019 No.10992189
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>>10992112
my guess it is D. flipping vertical, then combining . but it is inconclusive. would have to combine a dot and a box with a dot in the last row but there is no pattern like that in the first two rows. but it must be either D or E since a box with a dot + empty = empty. so it leaves the upper side totally empty.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 21 20:56:28 2019 No.10992286 >>10992189 yea d you add 1+2 shapes then flip around x axis d and subtract all the shapes

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 21 20:56:57 2019 No.10992288 >>10992100 IQ testing is a pseudoscience. It's a bunch of shit. You could probably teach an elephant to solve them effectively.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 21 20:58:26 2019 No.10992296 i regularly score ~120 on iq tests and as far as I can tell my ancestry on both sides are illiterate shit kicking peasants for as far back as the ancestral tree goes honesty I'm pretty happy with my score, considering my genetic stock

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 21 21:00:54 2019 No.10992305 >>10992286 cool thanks anon much appreciated. >>10992288 i don't care. i am average and i treat these problems as individual puzzles that's all. and i can also discuss solutions with other people itt which is great.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 21 21:01:40 2019 No.10992308 >>10992296 Again, IQ is a pseudoscience. It doesn't represent jack shit. Its prior knowledge and motivation that sets you to get a 'high' IQ.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 21 21:02:43 2019 No.10992313 File: 34 KB, 549x657, answer.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10992286 ok so this is the answer before the subtraction hope it makes sense anons the 2-1 = 1, and 1-1 =0 and remember there is a flip around the x axis

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 21 21:03:42 2019 No.10992317 >>10992305 It is though. Anyways, its D from where I can look. You'll notice that the top and bottoms dots are flipped, and also contain the same amount of circles. Through that alone, you can narrow it down to D.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 21 21:04:47 2019 No.10992319 >>10992317 dots* not circles - seriously its a pseudoscience

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 21 21:08:43 2019 No.10992333 >>10992189 >>10992313 ohye so I just posted this for you >>10992189 and anyways the reason why sq+circle is empty is because you only have 1 sq and 1 circle so 1-1 = 0, and and so the pattern combine a circle+sq with circle means 2c 1 sq - 1c 1sq = 1c

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 21 21:10:34 2019 No.10992341 >>10992333 this stuff isn't hard retard, you're expected to solve this in probably <3 minutes flat - look at the top and bottom dots, they get flipped over the line - the rest of it is gobbledegook.

Anonymous Sat Sep 21 21:13:37 2019 No.10992358

>>10992341
I don't understand the logic though.
If you know how to solve it properly then you can add that to your "pattern bank", and apply it to future puzzles. I've took an official IQ test as an adult and I scored very high, but it certainly wasn't my first time seeing the type of patterns.

But yes a quick glance and it seems like D to be the appropriate answer

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 21 21:16:59 2019 No.10992367 >>10992341 this is nonsense. of course they are flipped. so what. that's just the first part. you still need to figure out the rules for combining other shapes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 21 21:26:24 2019 No.10992396 >>10988450 It is. desu is basically the same thing as the actual test to join mensa.

Anonymous Sat Sep 21 21:28:34 2019 No.10992408
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>>10992341
So you are basically saying that's all you need?
And since D is the only one that has a dot in that position, thats the answer? But what it gets erased by some other pattern in some other combinations/

Anonymous Sat Sep 21 21:33:59 2019 No.10992421

>>10992367
Yep I'd say his approach is intuitive but at the end of the day rote memorization will win out. I'm a professional admissions coach and have scored 99%ile on the big 4; GMAT, LSAT, MCAT, and GRE, but I have tutored for Mensa qualification and hold Mensa membership myself which people say it's a ruse to part people with money but for a coach it's another qualification.

Anyways we do a mock exam first and severely limit the time they have per question. Mainly working toward time efficiency. Yes, some people are hopeless but it's almost a guaranteed 10%ile increase which is why I get paid.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 21 21:40:12 2019 No.10992440 >>10992421 Wow that's an interesting angle. Cool. It is like blitz chess. I once played against some random blitz junkies online, holy shit. They can't be higher than 1800 but they sure move their pieces fast!! It was like a 3 min blitz I think.

Anonymous Sun Sep 22 09:42:38 2019 No.10993536

>>10992100
are people here this much of brainlets?
not being supercilious but this took me like a minute to see
you look at the elements common in the first and second box of each row, and the third box are the elements in common, flipped along the x-axis.
it's that easy, niggas

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 22 16:57:22 2019 No.10994633 >>10993536 >that one guy who is prutty smurt

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