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10962915 No.10962915 [Reply] [Original]

What's causing boys to fall behind in school?

>> No.10962918

society unironically does not give a shit about men, it's expected that the best of the best will find a way to stand out without society helping them along

>> No.10962937

Ironically? The English have a tradition of sodomizing young boys in schools.

>> No.10962939
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>>10962915
school isn't built for boys. its built for girls by girls.

>> No.10962947

>>10962915
I hate women.

>> No.10962949

Males have a lot of shit to deal with while females are living life on easy mode

>> No.10962957

Higher IQ variance and mental retardation in boys? More will fail a low standard same as more meet a high one.

>> No.10962958

Because entitlement complexes that later turn into dysfunctional insecurities that manifest in holier-than-though, anti-authority, lone wolf, DIY "'"education"" that results in maladaptive, failure-bound behaviors.

>> No.10962962

>>10962947
im sure they hate you too

>> No.10962965

>>10962915
Women are good at following instructions and subdue themselves to authorities.
Who would have thought that?

>> No.10962967

>>10962949
*gets molested*
heh nothin personnel kiddo your on easy mode

>> No.10962972

>>10962967
That's what they were made for.

>> No.10962981

>>10962915
Back in my day, there were more male teachers and they gave more, "special tutoring," to the girls.

>> No.10962987

>>10962915
shitposting their life away, viday, soda, tranny cuck porn, comfy comfies, brutal escapism, constant masturbation, twitter raging, leftist religious fantasy day dreaming, RWDS fantasizing, bullshitting on the interwebz, bullshitting IRL, welfare, mom's basement, highspeed cuck porn (13" African AIDS infectors), junk food, trusting jews, capitalist globalist safety comfort addiction, pathological immaturity, pathological irresponsibility, exploratory tranny fetishizing, anime, manga, faggoty, fantasy day dreaming make believe, constant lying, insurmountable shitposting, escapism addiction, masturbation addiction, faggoty addiction, epic levels of rationalization, feminism, jewish feminism, trusting actively jewing jews, jewish subversion, penis fear, insecurity, 8 hour marathon naps, junk food values, junk food lifestyle, fake news dopamine addiction, lack of community, globalism demoralization, narcissistic globalists running the West, out of control female whorship, negro worship as a form of familial replacement, empathy competitions, cultural cuckery, pathological faggoty, degeneracy lifestyle, Weimar Republic 2.0 - the jews return for more, degenerated society, institutions, biological systems, hedonic treadmilling, hyperbolic discounting, leftism worshipping, leftist whorshipping, endless capitalist FUDing, atomization, globalist Hebraic enslavement, uncontrollable and endless lubeless masturbation injuries

>> No.10962989

>>10962915
Males have a greater variance in IQ. While females pretty much share the same average IQ, males are more likely than females to be either super intelligent or super retarded.

>> No.10962998

>>10962987
extreme israeli african penile transplants with built-in AIDS medication pre circumcised in 8" to 12" lengths and up to 3.5" in diameter

>> No.10963004

>>10962998
lab grown CRISPS enhanced horse cocks in 12" to 30" lengths and up to 6" in diameter in 1-2 years

>> No.10963005

>>10963004
Woolly mammoth dinosaur penis transplants in 3-4 years in volumes up to +3 sq. ft.

>> No.10963030

>>10962965
This.
>subdue themselves to authorities
Women are risk averse

>> No.10963037

>>10962915
Boys are too busy being hooligans.

>> No.10963042

>>10962989
In addition, males are more likely to be diagnosed with various learning disorders such as autism, ADHD, and dyslexia

>> No.10963064

There's a ton more support programs for women.
Half of my department's budget went to women in STEM programs. We had a bunch of tutors that effectively only really had hours for female students.
Requests for new equipment were denied so the department could hire more female only tutors.

>> No.10963068

>>10962958
Get off my webcam glow-in-the-dark

>> No.10963072

>>10962958
>>10963068
It's the awful stench of Jordan fucking Peterson again lol
what a fucking tool

>> No.10963077

>>10962915
Women are more often teachers and harsher on boys

>> No.10963081

boys are more interested in vidya and general fuckery than school.

not sexism. just boys being dumb fucks

>> No.10963083

>>10963081
girls are more interested in fashion, television, and sucking cocks than school

not sexism, just the facts

>> No.10963100

>>10962915
Bitter angry women teaching boys who see them as oppressors.

>> No.10963103

>>10963100
You have the 90's pedophile scare to thank for that. It's impossible for men to teach elementary and middle school in America after the media taught all parents that all men are sex crazed child rape machines.

>> No.10963151

>>10962915
because although I can recognize the authority of someone other then myself to evaluate my value and worth, as a male, I know that this value ultimately comes from myself, and I should be hesitant to give someone or something else that power. Only I and my power should be the one defining my life. Not some outside power. therefore naturally I have the tendency to not place as much importance on the nature of an outside authority like an education institution, Government, Business, etc. to evaluate my value, because I know that value is best built and evaluated by myself as a competent or strong and real male

>> No.10963374

>>10963151
>Dunning, meet Kruger.

>> No.10963409

>>10962915
As school becomes more and more standardized aggressive and explanatory boys suffer while obedient and submissive girls thrive. /thread

>> No.10963411

>>10963042
You have it backwards. Boys who psychologically and mentally require locomotion and rough play (all kids do but boys more so) are forced to sit still, listen and be submissive for hours at a time. When they fail to do this, they get diagnosed with learning disabilities so the school can cope. Believing otherwise is heinous ignorance.

>> No.10963413

>>10962967
>*Rare occurrence*
>heh
*Actually has to try 10x harder on the daily*
heh nothing personal kid just living life on >easy mode

>> No.10963416
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10963416

Smug anime girls and dank weed

>> No.10963422

>>10962915

Since there is no difference in the capabilities or intelligence of the genders a difference in outcome must be proof of bias and sexism in the school system.

>> No.10963424

>>10963374
its a simple question really, who do you place more value or trust in, yourself, or others ? When it comes to me, and I think this is probably true for a lot of men, I trust and value myself as my own authority in general

>> No.10963427

>>10963422
Women less represented in scientific achievement.
>IQs are the same.
Girls do better in school.
>Girls are smarter.

What a mess the ego creates.

>> No.10963428

and yes im the guy trolling /sci/ with the A.I.

>> No.10963434

>>10963428
You are the glow nigger. Thanks for shitting up my board.

>> No.10963465

>>10963064
This is the shit that makes me want to pull a Ted Kaczynski

>> No.10963470

>>10963151
This is why I almost dropped out of high school. But you grow up (i.e. become broken) and trudge through the bullshit.

>> No.10963498

>>10963427
Sane post

>> No.10963512

>>10963005
>mentions volume
>use unit for area to describevolume

kys

>> No.10963549

>>10962918
fpbp

>> No.10963557

>>10963411
What about boys who never liked rough play or locomotion? Are they autistic?

t. Guy who never liked rough play or locomotion.

>> No.10963559

>>10962915
Wow, we need to take actions to correct these discrepancies.
I wont hold my breath

>> No.10963568

>>10963557
Some of them at least. For boys I guess a big part of it is having a lot of autonomy and room for exploration/experimentation. You might or might not get that through free play with other kids. As a literal autist I was often pinned down and attempted controlled by other kids in my childhood.

>> No.10963581

>>10963568
Actually I do have a distinct memory that I enjoyed pretending to street fight with a friend at a very young age but I could only do it when the teachers weren't looking, so perhaps you are right, it really depends on if the environment and if it facilitates these activities.

>> No.10963582

>>10963568
Appending: A certain chunk of the boys just seem to be drawn towards controlling people and gaining leadership status within the groups. Free play with these types of kids doesn't make much sense for those who do not share this temperament beyond learning how to put sticks in the wheels or transcend the game in other ways. I have the impression that those who share the temperament but are losers in the game usually don't find a way to defect.

>> No.10963600

>>10963559
helping boys is sexist

>> No.10963613
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>>10962987
had to be done

>> No.10963789

Modern schools are run by angry feminists who want to punish boys and prevent them from achievement.

>> No.10963810

The school system's feminized. If school was restructured akin to something of a military environment where boys were allowed to engage in more hands on experimentation, and also encouraged to be creative and aggressive, you'd have far more success. The current system is anemic for them.

>> No.10963812

>>10962918
exactly as it should be incel

>> No.10963814

>>10963613
based

>> No.10963820

>>10963557
>>10963568
>>10963581
>>10963582
I bullied kids like you in school.

>> No.10963831

>>10963100
Unironically this.

>> No.10963958

>>10963820
Highly doubt it. My bullies won some battles, but didn't win the war. You wouldn't have boasted like this if you were my bully.

>> No.10964053

>>10962915
Female teachers

>> No.10964057

>>10962915
>
begging helped a lot.

>> No.10964073

>>10962915
School is teh ghey.

>> No.10964467

>>10963557
There is a lot of nuance all the way down. I only gave the most broad example to make the issue clear. It seems very exceptional to be a young boy who didn't enjoy locomotion, maybe you had social anxiety and saw it as an opportunity to embarrass yourself (only guessing that because I had a bit of that).

Even down to finer details school requires a lot more memorization and acceptance without question of what is presented. Boys being naturally more aggressive will want to question things and there is no room for that in a system where standardized tests rule curriculum. Girls, more submissive, naturally accept what they are told and move on.

As a boy with two sisters in my same grade I learned to be submissive and get the good grades, but despite not being gay or thinking I am trans, I do notice many female qualities in myself and a lot of people think I am gay, so clearly I am not a good counter example.

>> No.10964470

>>10962915
Education is biased against men. It's full of feminists and sjws in general

>> No.10964476

>>10962915
School system is designed for girls to do better, simply because they're more likely to be obedient and do the work.

Schools are harsh on boys who are "disruptive"

>> No.10964480

>>10962915
Girls get a better treatment on average, be at home or at school. Boys, on the other hand, are expected to get their shit together by themselves (not that I think it's a bad thing at all)

>> No.10964815

Because testosterone causes boys to buck the system, which leads to shitty grades except probably in very privileged environments, or those who are in the 99th percentile of intelligence and literate family backgrounds (for example, in many Jewish families who raise their children in a hyperliterate and scholarly intellectual setting).

This is probably also why Asians do the best and blacks do the worst (lower vs. higher levels of aggression tolerated in their cultural respective upbringings).

>> No.10964849

>>10962915
most teachers are women and can only think in a way that subconsciously appeals only to women, no matter what they might say against it
men nowadays can only get good only if they study and teach themselves outside of school

>> No.10964858

>>10964815
>lower vs. higher levels of aggression tolerated in their cultural respective upbringings
this OP

>> No.10964867

Unironically circumcision

>> No.10966258

>>10963100
This

>> No.10966275

Rap music. Niggerification in general.

>> No.10966279

video games and porn

>> No.10966473

>>10962915
Women get more help at key points
/thread

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>>10962915
Cuz books are for nerds and women kek.

>> No.10967669

>minorities do bad in school
>of course cause they are genetically inferior and not because of historically evidence that society has been against them

>white boys do bad in school
>it's girls fault we dumb! a girl teacher was mean to me once and my mommy did nothing. a girl cheated on me in college and I dropped out!

>> No.10967674

>>10967669
so which is it then?

historical evidence that society is against them
or
genetic inferiority

>> No.10967686

>>10967669
lol good job failing at showing hypocrisy while at the same time proving yourself to be just another bigot

>> No.10967696

>>10962915
back in the day if a boy misbehaved he would be beat now there is nothing stopping some lad from saying fuck it and leaving school

>> No.10967698

>>10962915
Feminism

>> No.10967705

>>10967686
>I'm not a bigot you are the bigot!

Dang really did show me that white boy intelligence there.

>>10967674
Well there's not a whole lot of evidence for genetic superiority that doesn't claim the superiority of the race the "scientist" is. But there is historical evidence for bias in society going many ways. But that's not a scientific claim, more social studies. And I fucking hate social studies so overall I just hate this bs kinda thread on /sci/. Go argue this shit on /pol/ I'm sure it'll be as good a discussion (gonna bet the answer is jews and brown people).

>> No.10967720

>>10967705
>wah I'm not bigot even though I implied whites are genetically inferior
>fuck you white boy you stoopit
>blah blah blah bias going many ways
>I hate this shit. I hate you WAH
>youre a bigot wah go back to pol you hate jews
>wah wah WAH

pathetic

>> No.10967748

>>10967720
Didn't imply shit. Pointed out the photo in op gives data of English boys doing poorly in school. And this thread full of boys crying it's girls fault. Yet there's constant threads on here from pol race baiting with data of black kids doing poorly in school. So by that pol logic and logic in this thread, if you think blacks are genetically inferior because they do poorly in school then men are equally genetically inferior to women.

But I don't think there is such a thing as simple racial/gender genetic inferiority (outside genetic diseases), there's many reasons data might show any group doing poorly in school, and also OP is a faggot cause it's another not /sci/ related thread.

Also you, only you rn, are retarded. I assume you're racist cause you are but what's more funny is how racists are fucking retards yet wanna pretend they're becomes of the race. Like you are superior white man, yet lil girls and feminism make you do bad in school. A girl controls society enough to make you fail tests.

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>>10967705
>>10967669
Ironically, retarded shit like this from some hateful nasty minority makes me unironically waltz on over to browse a lil bit o good ol' /pol/ LOL

>> No.10967753

>>10967749
C
O
P
E

So you admit you can only be unchallenged in /pol/?

>> No.10967757

>>10967753
Go fuck yourself, retard

>> No.10967767

>>10967757
Damn what a solid science based argument. Really convinced me. Truly your father would be proud he didn't mix race because otherwise how could you argue so well without that pure redpilled brain of yours.

>> No.10967790

>>10962957
youre so unbelievably retarded for saying this.

>> No.10967830

>>10962915
Because there is no practical incentive to get good grades until the last year of high school or the SAT, you only have to not fail until then, good grades up to that point are only useful for social appearances and to appease school authority.

>> No.10967839

>>10967830
>good grades until the last year of high school or the SAT
doesn't explain why 60% of new college admissions are female.

>> No.10967851

>>10962915
Girls are viewed as good boys and boys are viewed as bad girls.
Younger boys MUST HAVE a lot of time to exercise, run around, play, fight, whatever, but instead they spend the most energetic years of their lives forced to sit alongside their female counterparts who have no such energy.

We need to get rid of fucking liberal women who think that gender norms are social constructs. They run the education system and cause kids to have awful experiences as a result

>> No.10967853

>>10967790
Not him, but why? As far as I know it's correct.

>> No.10967856

>>10967669
Hey anon, you won't reply to this but on the teeny tiny chance you will can you please explain why asians do better at school than white people when they, too, were historically oppressed like black people were?
Also you have zero sources which claim that men are intellectually inferior to women considering the actual real life statistics show that men average out to be exactly the same. The difference between your politics and mine are that I have some lovely fun little numbers and graphs to cite while you have to spew strawmen

>> No.10967867

>>10962967
>Be male
>Get molested by two separate people before I'm 14
heh nothin personnel kiddo your on easy mode

>> No.10967878

>>10963613
>Uncontrollable and endless lubeless masturbation injuries
Does this really happen? Ive never used lube, and I jack off 3+ times a day. Only time I got an injury was when I was jacking off after going to the beach and my dick had a bit of sand on it.

>> No.10967881

>>10967839
Yet in the end it's men that recieve the majority of stem degrees, get better paying jobs, are starting and leading business left and right and are much more successful. College admission doesn't mean jackshit. A lot of Women go to college to have fun or out of peer pressure and then cry because they're 30k and have a useless meme degree, if they even get that far considering how many of them drop out before even that.

>> No.10967888

>>10967851
>We need to get rid of fucking liberal women who think that gender norms are social constructs.
I am not sure it's the liberalism you want to get rid of. I don't blame you for avoiding that set of very loaded words. Because men that critisizes what they represent gets ostrasized from society. But it makes your post seem weaker here on this Malaysian tap dance shoes forum. Also drop the swearing.

>> No.10967983

>>10967669
The differences between men and women are greater than the differences between races. Minority men have far worse outcomes than minority women, too. I'd argue that anti-male bias harms black male students disproportionately.

>> No.10968001

>>10962915
I was busy dating girls back in school, that caused me some trouble. Now I'm 23 and feel absolutely no desire to get a gf.

>> No.10968863

>>10967881
Rough truth is that college is one of the best places for women to meet or get put in a position later in life to meet an equally certified husband. You aren't finding any rich men to marry any where else out of high-school, not without losing face.

>> No.10968870

>>10967856
Different person but something about Asian culture or genetics obviously allows them to excel at technical, instruction based tasks. If there is a manual, so to speak, an Asian can follow it to mastery.

>> No.10968976

>>10962915
Early childhood education and Primary education is mostly taught by women, and they are heavily biased against boys. The Economist once compiled some data showing that it indeed happens. Also the school system punishes boyish behavior, so they get fed up with school more easily. Back then the school still was boring to them, but without a good family background you can easily fall behind. And we know what happen to the family unit in 2019...

tl;dr: single mothers and early/primary education female teachers are causing boys to fall behind.

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>>10962915
So many stupid answers.

Girls are more compliant, boys are more rebellious. Girls spend more time studying and doing homework. It's that simple.

>> No.10969258

>>10962915
We have been modifying the way we teach for 50 years to try and get eaual results for boys and girls. Then about three decades back, when performance started being similar, we just continued in the same direction. Cutting excercise, giving methylphenidate for ADHD and videogames did the rest.

>> No.10970584

>>10962915
Unironically how is it possible not to pass 5 fucking GCSEs

>> No.10970603
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witchcraft

>> No.10970629

>>10962915
They are "Nerfing" us, imagine a place where a man could use 100% of his brain
we would already be on mars

>> No.10970647

>>10969029
>23% of men and 28% of women study more than 4 hours a day
What grade were the people who were sampled?

>> No.10971457

>>10967790
It makes a lot of sense, assuming IQ is a good predictor of these things. Let's say the cutoff for a standards is 90 IQ. Female IQ has less variance, so more females will have an IQ over 90. If you looked at indicators of high achievement, based off of these assumptions males will be overrepresented, which is the case if you look at top scientists and executives.

>> No.10971460

>>10962915
Boys don't have as much at stake obviously. Girls do. Boy could care less if they fell behind. Girls though? They always care about every little thing. They're too competitive to the point they group up together reliably to do school work. Boys? They'll fuck around and get nothing done. Absolutely disgusting.

>> No.10972021

>>10963083
It's true.The best of the best might still be men but on average guys are retards. I remember in my school most of the girls actually studied and did their homework whereas the guys just fucked around playing vidya.

>> No.10972022

>>10970629
tldr there are problems that cannot be solved purely by eating shit

>> No.10972050

>>10970647
15 yeard olds.

>> No.10972051

>>10962915
It's not boys who are falling behind, it's girls who are being strong

>> No.10972069

>>10962915
There are more stupid boys than stupid girls.

>> No.10972072

>>10972051
source?
>>10972069
also more genius boys than genius girls, males have higher variance

>> No.10972076

>>10962987
>>10963613
where can I find this "highspeed cuck porn (13" African AIDS infectors)"?

>> No.10972121

>>10962915
In addition to what other people in this thread are saying, it's also the case that like 1 in 50 kids is autistic and boys are far more likely than girls to be noticeably affected.

>> No.10972341

>>10962987
psychos belong to x

>> No.10972354

>>10972341
Not that psycho post really. A bit I guess. I think it's within limits. It made a nice meme >>10963613

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10972396

>>10962915
Social bias in favor of women. It's only in grades or subjectively evaluated tests that girls have an advantage. When it is a blind test, boys far exceed girls in math and slightly in reading/writing.
Pic related

>> No.10972409

>>10962958
>Because entitlement complexes

Way to mindlessly repeat what you were told.

>> No.10972416

>>10967653
based. Women care too much about approval and busy work

>> No.10974221

>>10967705
>there's not a whole lot of evidence for genetic superiority that doesn't claim the superiority of the race the "scientist" is.

White scientists and researchers have consistently reported East Asians as being superior to whites along certain metrics such as Mean IQ, Criminality, and Time Preference, as well as reporting Africans as superior to whites in certain athletic categories.

Be a retard somewhere else.

>> No.10974253
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10974253

>>10969029
facile analysis

>At the age of 16 (the end of Key stage 4 and Year 11), all pupils take a series of exams called the General Certificate of Secondary Education (GCSE), usually in about eight to ten subjects, which must include English and Mathematics.

Key comparison: differences between genders at age 16. Its just a fact that brain development has roughly 9 more years of maturation to go and females' development curve is slightly advanced compared to men.

>Disregarding all other factors in Old Blighty that may be relevant