SpaceX STARSHIP HOPPER Launch Thread — 150 Meter Final Hop (Attempt #2)

[Anonymous No.10922178]

overpressure event edition

WHEN: Tuesday, August 27 2019 ~4:00 PM+ CST [~9:00 PM+ UTC]
STREAM: https://www.spacex.com/webcast
Close-up Unofficial Stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mu5flGZteQ
Far-away Unofficial Stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn5j_E2CcqE

Launch site: SpaceX Starship Launch Pad, Boca Chica, Texas
Landing site: SpaceX Starship Landing Pad, Boca Chica, Texas
Starship version: Starship Hopper prototype (Built by Boca Chica Starship shipyard)
Number of Raptor engines: 1 [S/N 6]
Payload: Test tiles for Starship’s thermal protection system
Hop Parameters: ~200 meters vertical distance, with horizontal translation to landing pad
NOTAM: https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_9_7273.html [4 nautical miles]

Stats:
This is the second substantial hop of Starship Hopper, and the last flight of the Hopper. Pending a successful flight, the Hopper will be converted into a Raptor engine test stand.

>what caused yesterday's scrub?
Some sort of issue with the igniters.

[Anonymous No.10922181]

>>10922178
Way too early for the thread

[Anonymous No.10922182]

silly me, didn't fix the post. It is indeed a 150 meter hop, not 200.
Furthermore, the hop could happen late in the day; the testing period extends to midnight CST I believe?

[Anonymous No.10922185]

It sure makes interesting sounds. The hopper that is

>>10922181
It’s posted later than the first one was in relation to hop time. F9 launch threads are generally up a good few hours before launch as well

[Anonymous No.10922199]

didnt get to see it last night, and now i have an appointment i have to go to at 5:15. I hope it gets postponed again. at least until 6 or so. fuck

[Anonymous No.10922200]

>>10922199
Elon did say “same time” so it might be around 5-6pm local instead of 4

[Anonymous No.10922203]

How did they manage to have the damn igniters fail on them anyway? Don't they doublecheck everything before launch???

[Anonymous No.10922208]

>>10922203
checklists are oldspace tech

[Anonymous No.10922227]

>>10922203
literally Murphy's Law
>The law's namesake was Capt. Ed Murphy, a development engineer from Wright Field Aircraft Lab. Frustration with a strap transducer which was malfunctioning due to an error in wiring the strain gage bridges caused him to remark – "If there is any way to do it wrong, he will" – referring to the technician who had wired the bridges at the Lab. I assigned Murphy's law to the statement and the associated variations.

[Anonymous No.10922257]

I wonder if the raptors in serial production would have the ignition wired backwards too

[Anonymous No.10922266]

>>10922203
Probably redundancies that would otherwise be in place aren't since the hopper is being retired very soon one way or another.

[Anonymous No.10922273]

>>10922257
Remember, this one had already been fired and flown, so it wouldn't be a manufacturing problem.

[Anonymous No.10922281]

POP! or HOP! what will it be?

[Anonymous No.10922315]

>>10922281
HOP!
HOP!

[Anonymous No.10922324]

>>10922203
"The fuse, Gromit! The fuse! We forgot to light the fuse!"

[Anonymous No.10922328]

>>10922281
HOP

[Anonymous No.10922380]

>>10922203
their spark plugs got shaken loose probably

[Anonymous No.10922383]

Hoppen

[Anonymous No.10922394]

[Anonymous No.10922400]

>>10922394
Just reverse the electron stream polarity.

[Anonymous No.10922404]

>>10922394
>tfw loose spark plugs

[Anonymous No.10922418]

hopefully mk1 starts doing tests soon after this hop. Will go through withdrawal...

[Anonymous No.10922432]

>>10922203
Why do things fail even when we do everything we can to make sure it works? Who knows.

Maybe the flat earth god hates rockets.

[Anonymous No.10922453]

>>10922418
at least half a year until that happens anon.
But we will probably have a maned falcon9 launch before that.

[Anonymous No.10922463]

>>10922453
>half a year
it’s basically done though. I give it a month

[Anonymous No.10922470]

>>10922453
mk1 is supposed to go sub orbital this year afaik

[Anonymous No.10922608]

[Anonymous No.10922643]

>>10922394
REROUTE POWER TO SPARK PLUGS!

[Anonymous No.10922667]

No hop today?

[Anonymous No.10922670]

>>10922667
>HOP???
please be patient

[Anonymous No.10922678]

>>10922608
LAND OF THE FREE!!!!

[Anonymous No.10922680]

if it falls over would anything even happen? It seems strong enough

[Anonymous No.10922683]

>>10922680
it's 100 tons of steel, which is both a blessing and a curse
it's so heavy and strong that basically nothing can hurt it but itself

[Anonymous No.10922699]

>>10922667
2 hours 30 mins

[Anonymous No.10922776]

>>10922680
>this thing
>strong
Nigga the front fell off from a gust of wind

[Anonymous No.10922782]

>>10922776
they made the front from a piece of tin foil, anon
the bottom bit that remains is actually bulletproof

[Anonymous No.10922787]

>>10922324
God I loved that as a kid.

[Anonymous No.10922800]

>>10922782
>actually bulletproof
ULA sniper just got rekt

[Anonymous No.10922806]

>>10922800
the COPV on top would probably pop if you hit them

[Anonymous No.10922810]

>>10922806
>implying they don't have fake COPVs next to the real ones so the ULA sniper doesn't know which one to hit

[Anonymous No.10922817]

>>10922810
three shots three hits?
it's not that hard
proper AP .338 lapua magnum or other ultramagnums would also probably work on the big tank but a tiny hole is not going to cause a structural failure in a battleship stage, unlike a proper rocket.

[Anonymous No.10922843]

>>10922776
No, they had already taken the front off, the wind just pushed it over.

[Anonymous No.10922846]

45 minutes lads?

[Anonymous No.10922856]

what stream are we watching this time?

[Anonymous No.10922860]

>>10922856
official, when it's up

[Anonymous No.10922868]

>>10922856
the one that takes donations and then stops working once the countdown to launch starts!

>>10922860
or you could just go with this

[Anonymous No.10922872]

>>10922868
>the one that takes donations and then stops working once the countdown to launch starts!
all of them then?

[Anonymous No.10922877]

Should I go and grab one of 7/11's shitty pizzas before the launch?

[Anonymous No.10922879]

>>10922806
>>10922810
>>10922817
In all seriousness a major bonus of the raptor (amongst all the others) is that it uses autogenous pressurization, so the final Starship/Superheavy won't actually need COPVs anymore which will be a nice reliability/removal of a pain in the fucking ass point. The starhopper might just because weight isn't a real concern there and it's just a test for other stuff, so using nitrogen to pressurize or whatever could be a fairly easy answer.

Final one though should be even tougher in that respect.

[Anonymous No.10922882]

>>10922872
Nah, the two padre streams stayed up. I can't listen to that one dude talk and shill for donations and I hate how they clutter up the stream with bullshit, but at least their stream didn't cut out five minutes before the attempted launch.

[Anonymous No.10922886]

>>10922872
>all of them then?
SpaceX's official one anon. Only downside is it only begins like 10 minutes or so before launch, so you can't just have it in the background an house ahead of time. That's the one that'll give you a nice engine cam too though, plus they don't fucking yammer on about random shit all the fucking time like a chatty teenager.

[Anonymous No.10922888]

>>10922886

How the fuck do I find the SpaceX one? Legitimate brainlet here couldn't find it yesterday.

[Anonymous No.10922889]

>>10922882
the guy who talks over labpadre streams is a fucking retarded inbred hick and needs to die, he's even worse than the everyday estronaut who is at least mostly informed

[Anonymous No.10922891]

>>10922888
It’ll get posted here fren

[Anonymous No.10922894]

>>10922886
fucking Tim Cuck the Evryday Estronaut

[Anonymous No.10922895]

Still no venting... Were atleast an hour off

[Anonymous No.10922899]

>>10922894
yeah, the dude really needs to chill the fuck out in his streams.

[Anonymous No.10922902]

>>10922891

Thank you

[Anonymous No.10922904]

>>10922888
>How the fuck do I find the SpaceX one? Legitimate brainlet here couldn't find it yesterday.
As soon as it's up, it'll be on their main YouTube page at https://www.youtube.com/spacex, or their website page, simple as that. The problem is like I maybe wasn't clear on, until the thing goes up it just doesn't exist on their page at all. So you don't get a nice hour warning countdown or something and link ahead, only fairly soon before launch. Maybe because just plain these tests aren't that exact launches and it can be +/- a few minutes so they don't bother until final countdown.

This is the final one for Starhopper anyway no matter what it does, so I think they just don't care to invest anything more in making the software side of things better just for viewers.

[Anonymous No.10922906]

>>10922895

I'm starting to vent

[Anonymous No.10922907]

>>10922895
How long did fueling that water tower take last time, an hour?

[Anonymous No.10922912]

>>10922894
>>10922899
Apparently that's what his viewers like though going by the retard spam in the comment stream he allows too. Whatever though, final one.

[Anonymous No.10922913]

>>10922895

Is the fuel still not inside it from yesterday? pls no bully

[Anonymous No.10922918]

when you're fuelling a craft the whole system needs to be grounded or at least at equipotential, right?

[Anonymous No.10922921]

>>10922913
no, because the igniters had to be fiddled with

[Anonymous No.10922922]

>>10922906
Go to the toilet then.

[Anonymous No.10922928]

>>10922895
>Still no venting... Were atleast an hour off
Looks like the firetruck is gone though? That's the final vehicle to leave, so progress on that front.

[Anonymous No.10922929]

>>10922904
They could've at least posted the stream when they start it, yesterday the stream had like 2 hours of recording already before they posted the link and made it public.

[Anonymous No.10922931]

>>10922918
nah just wear an antistatic wrist strap

[Anonymous No.10922932]

>>10922178
>WHEN: Tuesday, August 27 2019 ~4:00 PM+ CST [~9:00 PM+ UTC]
Just to add, launch window is officially (as in FAA permitted I guess) 3 hours long, so room for significant delay.

[Anonymous No.10922933]

>>10922888
they put it on their twitter

[Anonymous No.10922935]

>>10922913
nah, first of all no one's allowed to go near the thing until it has been safed, which means all liquid propellants are drained and the tank atmosphere is purged with nitrogen, secondly the propellants are cryogenic liquids and would have boiled away by now if they had just let hem sit in the tanks for 24 hours.

[Anonymous No.10922937]

Whatcha listening to?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjlKKjKeuA0

[Anonymous No.10922939]

>>10922937
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0x77EdoXhw

[Anonymous No.10922941]

ok, dragon has now safely landed, please give us hopper stream

[Anonymous No.10922942]

>>10922937
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elrClUozj1c

[Anonymous No.10922943]

>>10922929
>They could've at least posted the stream when they start it, yesterday the stream had like 2 hours of recording already before they posted the link and made it public.
Who knows how it's actually hacked together behind the scenes. I think they're just not bothering to do anything more automated and smoother then whatever someone through together early because it'll have no long term application, unlike their official real launch stuff. It'd be nice yeah but if there is some bug or manual intervention or any reason at all not to bother I can see why they'd just ignore it since this is it.

[Anonymous No.10922945]

>>10922941
oh shit was that happening too

[Anonymous No.10922946]

one of the streams has the biggest most talkative faggot ever what the fuck man

[Anonymous No.10922948]

>>10922946
You are wrong. It's two of them and they're competing for the title.

[Anonymous No.10922949]

>>10922907
>How long did fueling that water tower take last time, an hour?
Around that, maybe a bit over. Order should be something like first venting from a ways away as stuff starts transferring, then vehicle, then flame goes up as they burn off venting methane which is the final stage.

[Anonymous No.10922950]

>>10922946
if you stick with him you'll also get to enjoy when he suddenly tries to change the exposure/zoom and shift cables or whatever the fuck at t-30 seconds.

[Anonymous No.10922957]

>>10922945
yes

[Anonymous No.10922960]

>>10922950
yesterday he managed to straight up kill the stream 2 minutes before t=0
like what the fuck man figure your shit out in the 6 hours beforehand instead of reading every single donation comment and step back when the main event is happening.

[Anonymous No.10922962]

>>10922937
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM7jPo3EgbU

[Anonymous No.10922964]

>>10922937
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O3uxb_V2Ko

[Anonymous No.10922966]

>>10922937
https://youtu.be/XW-8yCKwhBE

[Anonymous No.10922967]

>just want a single stream that'll inform me when shit is happening
>both streams with people talking will not stop fucking talking with every single breath that they're taking, shilling their channels and blabbering about publicly available info I've already heard a billion times or even random private bullshit
>they'll keep doing this for the next hour or two
>end up literally having to sit here and watch nothing happening on these streams because I cannot bare to unmute any of these streams, yet don't want to miss something either

[Anonymous No.10922968]

>>10922937
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxX6phlbds8

[Anonymous No.10922969]

>>10922964
it's like jethro tull forgot their electric instruments

[Anonymous No.10922970]

>>10922937
https://youtu.be/PcRyjkYdDxM

[Anonymous No.10922974]

>>10922967
spacex stream will go live 10ish minute before launch

[Anonymous No.10922977]

>>10922967
just wait for the SpaceX stream which they will hopefully put up this time
they didn't put it up for the second day of hop attempts the first time around
>>10922969
Leslie Fish is really good
https://youtu.be/EQdJwPlAqHU?list=PLSGPjuer15FZ3-orl2G7YFDOLZDnFn36C

[Anonymous No.10922979]

where's the stream?

[Anonymous No.10922981]

>>10922937
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC7KFcT4JI4

[Anonymous No.10922985]

some faggots are saying it's fulling. can someone confirm this

[Anonymous No.10922987]

>>10922979
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn5j_E2CcqE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8CSgRpPT0o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0MTtqzzf-U
I advise you mute all of them or you will regret it.
SpaceX stream won't be up for a while.
They haven't started fueling yet.

[Anonymous No.10922988]

>>10922979
https://youtu.be/m0MTtqzzf-U warning: numale fag
https://youtu.be/cn5j_E2CcqE
https://youtu.be/QqgSVV36wNI
https://youtu.be/g8CSgRpPT0o warning: overtalkative retarded hick

[Anonymous No.10922989]

>>10922977
this is very different from the space music I usually listen to
https://kinggizzard.bandcamp.com/album/infest-the-rats-nest-2
https://youtu.be/AZm1_jtY1SQ
https://youtu.be/E0ewuky5mQk

[Anonymous No.10922990]

>>10922960
Maybe some of the donations were people hoping it would fuck him up.

[Anonymous No.10922991]

>>10922979
No venting so still about an hour to go

[Anonymous No.10922993]

>>10922989
Folk is not so different from metal

[Anonymous No.10922996]

>>10922993
I agree and I'm way more into prog than metal
but w h y n o t b o t h
https://youtu.be/ibDLLDOYfmY

[Anonymous No.10923008]

Slight attempts at venting.

[Anonymous No.10923009]

venting

[Anonymous No.10923010]

there's venting!

[Anonymous No.10923012]

>mommy mommy the rocket is farting!
it does that all the time when there's fuel in it, call me when the spacex stream is live

[Anonymous No.10923017]

>>10923012
>it does that all the time when there's fuel in it
Before there was no fuel in it, so this is an improvement.

[Anonymous No.10923023]

Official stream yet?

[Anonymous No.10923025]

>>10923023
there'll be a spam of links when its here, you won't miss it

[Anonymous No.10923026]

>>10923023
Previously, official stream has gone up at something like T-10 minutes. Venting means something like an hour to go, so maybe like another 40 minutes give or take. You should see a big flare go up in the final fueling stages.

[Anonymous No.10923033]

>>10922178
Looks like it's happening this time.
I vote for it all goes well,then it blows up 15 seconds after landing.

[Anonymous No.10923041]

>>10923033
That would unironically be kind of wild. Everything works then it blows up anyway best of all worlds. Elon would probably be accused of secretly planting some explosives in there or triggering self destruct just for the hell of it.
Maybe those accusations would be right.

[Anonymous No.10923050]

>>10923041
seriously does starhopper even have a range safety system? figured like tons of other normal rocket stuff they'd just leave that out, it never actually has enough fuel to go far even if it wanted to and area is clear for a long ways around

[Anonymous No.10923053]

>>10923050
I'm not sure how many kg of high explosive it would take to break that thing open but it's probably a lot

[Anonymous No.10923060]

>Dodd stream keeps dying
LMAO

[Anonymous No.10923062]

>>10923053
Dont bother with blowing the entire hopper then, just guarantee thrust termination by blowing the fuel lines before they get to the engine. Fuel lines go boom, engine is instantly starved of fuel and shuts down/explodes, and the whole thing comes down in a blazing fireball of glory.

[Anonymous No.10923065]

Nuke Boca Chica!

[Anonymous No.10923069]

>>10923065
>Nuke Boca Chica!

[Anonymous No.10923071]

Fuel depot

[Anonymous No.10923072]

So how tough is that structure? It looks like a flimsy tin can one gust of wind away from disintegrating.

[Anonymous No.10923073]

>>10923072
The flimsy bit is just the cover, the stuff inside is pretty strong.

[Anonymous No.10923077]

>>10923072
Which, Starhopper? It's literally a water tower.

[Anonymous No.10923078]

>>10923072
It‘s fucking steel.

[Anonymous No.10923079]

>>10923072
Stainless steel stronk like kitchen pot

[Anonymous No.10923081]

>>10923050
The range safety system is a siren which will alert everyone within hearing to step out of their homes and away from glass that might shatter and blow toward them.

Range is GO.
>>10922608

[Anonymous No.10923085]

>>10923081
That's fair. Airplanes don't have bombs on them to shred them in the event that they're going to hit something, so why should rockets?

[Anonymous No.10923087]

Isnt the hull proper of starhopper something like quarter inch steel plate?

[Anonymous No.10923088]

>>10923087
Also internally braced

[Anonymous No.10923092]

waiting on SpaceX stream, where is the stream elon, I know you lurk faggot

[Anonymous No.10923093]

>>10923088
That's expected. Even with quarter inch steel on touchdown I would expect it to crumple inwards at the top of the legs.

[Anonymous No.10923094]

>>10923087
more like half inch, she thicc

also spacex stream when

[Anonymous No.10923095]

Big flare my dudes

Also sirens

Launch VERY soon

[Anonymous No.10923096]

>>10923050
>>10923053
>I'm not sure how many kg of high explosive it would take to break that thing open but it's probably a lot
Shouldn't be too bad, but it is a question actually for the production model if anyone knows the answer, the thing is designed around full reuse tons of times. Yes, it's a risk if it came down (though if they exclusively launch directly over water maybe that's mitigated somewhat) but so are airliners, yet we don't fit them with self-destruct systems. At some level of reliability it seems like the risk of a range safety system would become higher than the risk of failure itself.

[Anonymous No.10923098]

>>10923087
Why would you make a rocket out some something as cheap and barbaric as simple steel when you can make a rocket from advanced milled-isogrid friction-stir welded aerospace-grade aluminum made in the proud state of Louisiana?

[Anonymous No.10923099]

Live stream is up!

[Anonymous No.10923102]

LIVE
https://youtu.be/bYb3bfA6_sQ

[Anonymous No.10923101]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYb3bfA6_sQ

There it is! Official Stream!

[Anonymous No.10923103]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYb3bfA6_sQ

T-5:30 or so

[Anonymous No.10923104]

>>10923099
link it fag

[Anonymous No.10923105]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYb3bfA6_sQ

[Anonymous No.10923106]

It's up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYb3bfA6_sQ

[Anonymous No.10923107]

Is there a stream with commentary?

[Anonymous No.10923109]

>>10923107
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0MTtqzzf-U

[Anonymous No.10923111]

>>10923109
monkey paw, you will get commentary but it will be autistic

[Anonymous No.10923113]

>>10923107
Open labpadre or everyday astronaut

[Anonymous No.10923114]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFGnsdV-sR4

background music

[Anonymous No.10923116]

>>10923109
I'm still reminded of that one time he went on a spiel about how mankind should be united in space with no tribalism and wars, just because there was a flame war in the livestream chat. lol

[Anonymous No.10923118]

HOP YOU FAGGOTS

FLY ME TO THE MOON
LET ME PLAY AMONG THE STARS
LET ME SEE WHAT SPRING IS LIKE ON JUPITER AND MARS

[Anonymous No.10923120]

GET ON WITH IT BEFORE I PISS MESELF.

[Anonymous No.10923121]

T-3:00

[Anonymous No.10923122]

tension RISING

[Anonymous No.10923125]

IT STOPPED

[Anonymous No.10923126]

T-2m

[Anonymous No.10923127]

AAAHHHHHH COUNTDOWN PAUSED FFFFFFFFFFF

[Anonymous No.10923129]

2 min pause

[Anonymous No.10923130]

NO

[Anonymous No.10923131]

deluge that pad you slut
hold at 2 minutes just like yesterday

[Anonymous No.10923132]

Fuck this hold at 2 min

[Anonymous No.10923133]

FAGGOTS WHY

[Anonymous No.10923134]

HOLD

[Anonymous No.10923135]

>>10923125
planned hold

[Anonymous No.10923136]

elon you fucking troll god damn it

[Anonymous No.10923137]

fucking HOLD

[Anonymous No.10923139]

Is he watching it?

[Anonymous No.10923140]

>Elon is going to troll everyone twice in a row

[Anonymous No.10923142]

it held same time yesterday, normal

[Anonymous No.10923143]

[Anonymous No.10923145]

how hard can this be

[Anonymous No.10923146]

just think if the old Grasshopper test flights had had live countdown readouts and holds like this

[Anonymous No.10923147]

Elon you kek I know you lurk here

tell your engineers to get their asses in gear

[Anonymous No.10923151]

I wonder what the problem even is. I thought Starhopper was pretty stupid simple?

[Anonymous No.10923152]

[Anonymous No.10923153]

IT'S OGRE

[Anonymous No.10923154]

They are holding at T-2 until 4:58pm. They are aiming for 5pm hop.

[Anonymous No.10923155]

Holding so they don't launch before 5:00 I hope

[Anonymous No.10923158]

wtf they have to scrub it again

[Anonymous No.10923159]

IT'S SCRUBBED

[Anonymous No.10923160]

[Anonymous No.10923161]

>>10923154
>>10923155
1 minute left till 5

[Anonymous No.10923162]

What's the point of starting the countdown if they're planning to stop it?

[Anonymous No.10923163]

add more struts

[Anonymous No.10923164]

what the fuck is 'terminal count'

[Anonymous No.10923165]

hold waiting for tank pressure to rise to nominal

[Anonymous No.10923166]

>>10923159
Sauce

[Anonymous No.10923167]

Skip forward if the stream is showing something like -19 minutes
SpaceX stream started early but unlisted it seams

[Anonymous No.10923168]

what just flaked off

[Anonymous No.10923169]

>>10923162
tension-building

[Anonymous No.10923170]

>>10923168
Ice maybe?

[Anonymous No.10923172]

resumed

[Anonymous No.10923173]

ONE
MINUTE
FIFTY
NINE
SECONDS

[Anonymous No.10923174]

Hold lifted

[Anonymous No.10923175]

COUNTDOWN RESTARTED

[Anonymous No.10923177]

COUNTDOWN HAS RESUMED

[Anonymous No.10923176]

>>10923170
yes it's ice

[Anonymous No.10923178]

RESTARTED YES HOP BABY HOP

[Anonymous No.10923179]

IT'S BACK

[Anonymous No.10923180]

ITS HAPPENING

[Anonymous No.10923181]

omg

[Anonymous No.10923182]

Here we go

[Anonymous No.10923183]

IT'S COUNTING

[Anonymous No.10923184]

Started again, here we fucking go.

[Anonymous No.10923185]

CLOCK IS ROLLING! Pucker up people, and hope we aren't blueballed again.

[Anonymous No.10923186]

GWAN YA BOY YE

[Anonymous No.10923187]

ok GOGOOGOG

[Anonymous No.10923188]

I hate IPA but hoppy seems like the only appropriate beer for this launch.

[Anonymous No.10923189]

[Anonymous No.10923190]

HERE WE GO AGAIN FAGGOOOOTS
WATERRRRRR

[Anonymous No.10923191]

T-30s

[Anonymous No.10923192]

I hope we see the diamonds

[Anonymous No.10923193]

POST LAUNCH CAT
GO FOR LAUNCH
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>GO FOR LAUNCH

[Anonymous No.10923194]

OLDSPACE SWEATING BULLETS.

[Anonymous No.10923195]

GO GO GO

[Anonymous No.10923196]

>Pad pissing itself in excitment

[Anonymous No.10923200]

IT LOOKS SO DUMB LMAO

[Anonymous No.10923201]

AND IT IS FUCKING GLORIOUS!

[Anonymous No.10923202]

HORY FUCKKKKK

[Anonymous No.10923203]

HOLY SHIT

DID YOU SEE THAT

HOLY SHIT

[Anonymous No.10923204]

Looks pure sex.

[Anonymous No.10923205]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

[Anonymous No.10923206]

BUTIFEL

[Anonymous No.10923208]

HOLY SHIT

[Anonymous No.10923210]

[Anonymous No.10923211]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.10923212]

[Anonymous No.10923213]

FUCKING BEAUTIFUL (and timed perfectly with M83 Outro)

[Anonymous No.10923214]

I CANT BELIEVE THATS REAL

WTF I LOVE SCIENCE

[Anonymous No.10923215]

THE WATER TOWER FLEW

[Anonymous No.10923216]

SHE FLEW

[Anonymous No.10923217]

Nice. Now do it from orbit.

[Anonymous No.10923218]

Estronaut's gone stark raving mad

[Anonymous No.10923219]

WE DID IT LADS

[Anonymous No.10923220]

ULA on suicide watch

[Anonymous No.10923221]

All this hype just to watch a big dumb water tower fly a couple hundred meters into the air. Wow

[Anonymous No.10923222]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAH

[Anonymous No.10923223]

[Anonymous No.10923224]

[Anonymous No.10923225]

We're going to Mars, gentlemen. Later than the oldies expected much sooner than we did!

[Anonymous No.10923226]

>hop test
are you fucking kidding

[Anonymous No.10923227]

Somebody webm it

[Anonymous No.10923228]

god bless America

[Anonymous No.10923229]

Someone better get the webm of that.

[Anonymous No.10923231]

SHELBY FOUND DEAD

SLS CANCELLED

GOD BLESS AMERICA

[Anonymous No.10923232]

that was awesome, everyone here is cheering

[Anonymous No.10923233]

KERBAL SPACE PROGRAM IN REAL LIFE

[Anonymous No.10923234]

>>10923227
On it. Downloading the full video now.

[Anonymous No.10923235]

The crane cable that thing was attached to was so fucking obvious holy shit how they fooling anyone with this

[Anonymous No.10923236]

>that -5 seconds gimballing

UNF

[Anonymous No.10923237]

>>10923224
SLS getting dabbed on by a flying water tower

[Anonymous No.10923239]

Well it was worth it waiting to 1 am again.

[Anonymous No.10923240]

>>10923224

[Anonymous No.10923241]

AHHAHHAHHAHAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.10923242]

[Anonymous No.10923243]

>>10923231
based and freedom pilled

[Anonymous No.10923245]

>>10923151
they're holding for the final go/no-go checks but they haven't budgeted any time for it in the countdown so they have to hold for it

[Anonymous No.10923246]

What flew off in the Estro stream.

[Anonymous No.10923248]

im a bit concerned that Raptor's exhaust flared up quite a bit during the touch down, think they burned up the combustion chamber?

[Anonymous No.10923250]

This is why we need more regulation this madness must stop!

[Anonymous No.10923251]

>>10923164
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw

[Anonymous No.10923253]

>>10923248
Isn't that just from the concrete vaporizing?

[Anonymous No.10923255]

The sheer goofiness of it all was fucking amazing

[Anonymous No.10923254]

>>10923248
Throttle down. Mixture changes probably as it was orange. Metals gives off funkier colors.

[Anonymous No.10923256]

>starhopper flew and it worked and nothing exploded
oh, that's cool I guess, kinda anticlimatic desu

[Anonymous No.10923257]

>>10923245
it already hopped lol

[Anonymous No.10923258]

Press F to pay respects to Old Space

[Anonymous No.10923259]

>>10923248
looks like it goes fuel-rich when throttling down

[Anonymous No.10923260]

>>10923253
Unlikely.

[Anonymous No.10923261]

>>10923250
NNOOOOOOOO MY PORK THIS IS NOT ALLOWED

[Anonymous No.10923262]

>>10923253
no way, it was way too high up, and the flame was yellow right from the engine nozzle
>>10923254
hope you're right, thought i saw some copper green in there

[Anonymous No.10923263]

>>10923248
carbon from going ch4 rich on low throttle

[Anonymous No.10923264]

>>10923240
look at how absolutely cooked the pad is

[Anonymous No.10923265]

>>10923258
>inb4 the Law is involved to protect Tradition and The American Way

[Anonymous No.10923266]

>>10923248
full flow changes to methane heavy mix for final touch down man. don't want to use o2 heavy for that.

[Anonymous No.10923267]

>>10923261
Elon just killed thousands of AMERICAN jobs in 50 STATES. Dark days ahead.

[Anonymous No.10923268]

>>10923262
It was from throttling down thrust as they were landing.

[Anonymous No.10923270]

>>10923257
I know but that doesn't make me wrong

[Anonymous No.10923271]

>>10923262
My guess is that they went very fuel rich during the descent, and the split methane combusted on contact with the atmosphere.

[Anonymous No.10923272]

>>10923258
>spitting intensifies
If only they'd fucking quit right now but the AF contract is clearly rigged to keep them on life support, it's obvious they're going to get the 60% and SpaceX the 40%.

[Anonymous No.10923273]

>>10923263
Raptor already burns methane rich overall, so they must have gone REALLY methane rich at the lowest throttle setting there

[Anonymous No.10923274]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! CLEAN ROOMS!!!!! EXCESSIVE WASTAGE OF PUBLIC FUNDING!!!! YOU CAN'T DO THIS! YOU CAN'T DO THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS ELOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNN AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH STOOOOOOOOOOOP

[Anonymous No.10923276]

At this rate bfr will fly before new glenn

That would be humiliating. first his dick pics get leaked now he's getting KEKED by a guy that's poorer than him.

[Anonymous No.10923277]

>>10923270
it does make you a tardy namby-pamby

[Anonymous No.10923279]

Webm here now.

[Anonymous No.10923280]

>>10923277
I was too busy watching the hop to post on 4chan? Priorities man

[Anonymous No.10923284]

>>10923279
Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.10923283]

>>10923267
What I genuinely hate about that shit is that EVEN IF YOU SUPPORT PORK it STILL makes more sense to have all those jobs be towards making tons of space stations and colonies and shit that you launch for $100/kg. Like, fine, I'm not even going to complain about the government pumping billions into alabama pork, that's not even the problem really, it's that it's an inefficient pumping. It's not like they have to be working on expendable engines and rockets specifically, productive space use can consume endless budgets by itself but still actually leave America in a better position. God damn it.

[Anonymous No.10923285]

No one needs high capacity full thrust stages.

We need to solve the private company loophole in spaceflight.

The Founding Fathers never intended for citizens to build their own future.

[Anonymous No.10923286]

>>10923274
500 BILLION TO MARS
FOR TWO WEEKS
AAAAAAAAAAAAH

[Anonymous No.10923287]

Oh it was just a COPV that flew off

[Anonymous No.10923288]

>>10923279
I grabbed it too, want to sink it to the kerbal 2 trailer music though. The hop works fucking perfectly with it.

[Anonymous No.10923290]

Wake up America nationalize that wretched company before it undoes half a century of spaceflight!

[Anonymous No.10923291]

>>10923283
This, they're not even trying to do anything useful with the money

[Anonymous No.10923293]

Elon Musk built that in a TENT.

With a box of SCRAPS.

So don’t tell me it can’t be porked.

[Anonymous No.10923294]

It took about six seconds for the engine cam to get BTFO.

[Anonymous No.10923295]

At least this can be a subject of international bridge building right guys? Because both ULA and Russian Space industry just watched their futures lithobreak! They can drink away their sorrows on vodka and whisky together!

[Anonymous No.10923296]

>>10923290
A half century of barely maintaining a presence in space? Fuck that. Colonization time!

[Anonymous No.10923298]

>>10923294
V I B R A T I O N S

[Anonymous No.10923299]

>>10923287
what, did a COPV pop off?

[Anonymous No.10923300]

[Anonymous No.10923301]

>>10923288
> that which thou doest, see that thou do it quickly.

[Anonymous No.10923302]

>>10923279
Audio version here

>>>/wsg/3016107

[Anonymous No.10923303]

>>10923291
Keeping our strategic ICBM capability to manufacture SRBs isn't useful?
I gotta find more Shelby meme pics now.

[Anonymous No.10923305]

Well that was a lot more fun than it had any right to be. Proving for all time that with enough thrust, even a brick can fly.

[Anonymous No.10923307]

>>10923299
Yeah you could see it in the estronaut stream, watch closely when the hopper it touching down, it yeets itself off to the right and hits the ground, you can even see vapor cones coming out of the busted pipe ends

[Anonymous No.10923308]

>>10923283
The whole point is to use jobs as bargaining/blackmail tool to influence politics. They fired off the shuttle workforce real quick making sure the ares-sls porktrain goes on undisturbed by heavy lift for years...
I have no hope those people will change. I only hope they won't try to hamstring the private Moon/Mars missions by utilizing politics and other filth.

[Anonymous No.10923309]

>>10923300
>gif
kek

[Anonymous No.10923313]

>>10923291
>This, they're not even trying to do anything useful with the money
That should genuinely be a campaign topic. Like
>if elected, I promise to maintain all current jobs but do it by redirecting them into stuff to launch rather then the launchers themselves
that shouldn't even be controversial. Hell, increase the budget further, really cement the American lead before the yellow menace can even start to catch up. Now is the fucking time.

[Anonymous No.10923314]

>>10923307
lel

[Anonymous No.10923315]

>>10923279
Why does it become bright yellow and make the shock diamonds disappear the moment the exhaust touches the ground?

[Anonymous No.10923316]

>>10923279
Could also be dust getting sucked into the exhaust stream then superheated.

[Anonymous No.10923317]

>>10923296
B-BUT PLANETARY PROTECTION AND ORBITAL DEBRIIIIIS

[Anonymous No.10923318]

Roscosmos and Chinese found hung in their apartments

[Anonymous No.10923323]

Liquid methane is just a fancy word of saying LNG right?
Like the ships that carry LNG at -163C are just carrying the exact same thing that SpaceX uses in the Raptor engines?
I'm not good at chemistry

[Anonymous No.10923328]

>>10923318
The russians will just pretend they are above such wasteful pointless things and the chinese will be spending a lot of money on espionage. The moment MK1 and 2 near orbital.

[Anonymous No.10923329]

OCCUPY MARS WHEN???

[Anonymous No.10923330]

Waiting for orbital starship tests is going to be pure agony.

[Anonymous No.10923332]

Hearings must be held to hold accountable whoever at the FAA approved this wreckless stunt. Where is NASA? Where is the Air Force?

The American people will not stand as their space program is threatened by these actors.

[Anonymous No.10923334]

>>10923323
LNG has other lightweight hydrocarbons in it like propane and propene. Methane is specifically CH4.

[Anonymous No.10923336]

>>10923313
This. The American government is clearly fine with spending billions into spaceflight, so why not use that money for something useful in spaceflight?

[Anonymous No.10923337]

>>10923323
liquid methane is a high-purity version of LNG
LNG doesn't need to be pure for most of what people use it for (cooking burgers and powering forklifts) but the Raptor engine is a bit finicky for that so it needs the high quality stuff, which isn't very hard to make

[Anonymous No.10923340]

>>10923323
LNG is mostly methane but there's some other stuff.

[Anonymous No.10923341]

>>10923332
SHUT DOWN SPACEX. NOISE POLLUTION IS KILLING REAL AMERICANS.

[Anonymous No.10923343]

Starship Launch System

[Anonymous No.10923347]

>>10923341
Think of the BIRDS !!!!!!!!!!! all the dead birds ....

[Anonymous No.10923348]

>>10923303
>Keeping our strategic ICBM capability to manufacture SRBs isn't useful?
Liquid and solid rockets are totally different anon. The ULA stuff has nothing to do with our ICBM capability.

[Anonymous No.10923358]

>>10923328
Classic vatnik

[Anonymous No.10923359]

>>10923348
they buy a bunch of GEM strap-on boosters or whatever, and both they and CASTOR rockets for omega are directly related to storable ICBM and other rocket production

[Anonymous No.10923362]

Very well enough cheering good night amerifats and make sure to raise public awareness if some shady political things are involved in trying to kill the future of humanity.

[Anonymous No.10923363]

Livestream was blocked on networks of NASA centers

[Anonymous No.10923365]

Anons, that was fucking epic. Just imagine what the full stack is going to be like. No question I'll be making the trip to the US to see that in person.

[Anonymous No.10923366]

>>10923328
fucking chinks

it's time to nuke bejing
build liberty prime NOW

[Anonymous No.10923369]

quick question.
WHY was it shaped like a silo?

[Anonymous No.10923371]

>>10923369
Top part fell off from wind storm

[Anonymous No.10923373]

>>10923348
Um, anon... see those things on the side of glorious SLS? We have to keep SRB engineers employed so that our ICBMs will launch reliably!
And nobody in this reply chain except you said anything about ULA.

[Anonymous No.10923374]

... Is there another wildfire in progress from the landing?

[Anonymous No.10923377]

>>10923369
all they needed was an engine strapped to a tank of fuel

silo == tank

[Anonymous No.10923378]

>>10923374
The fire rises.

[Anonymous No.10923380]

>>10923303
>>10923348
Northrop is making the next American ICBM and their OmegA rocket is all solids.

[Anonymous No.10923381]

>>10923308
>The whole point is to use jobs as bargaining/blackmail tool to influence politics. They fired off the shuttle workforce real quick making sure the ares-sls porktrain goes on undisturbed by heavy lift for years...
But I'm saying that the pork isn't even the problem. They could spend the entire US national budget on space, forever, and still barely scratch the potential of colonizing other worlds or moon/asteroid mining or whatever. But from a pure jobs politics thing, WHAT they're making doesn't matter, merely that they're making X for $Y. X can be anything. So it'd make more sense if they'd just have X be something more productive. They can spend $30 billion launching $20b worth of one hundred thousand tons of stuff into space via SH, vs $30b launching rockets with a capacity of like a few thousand tons. In each case tens of billions gets directed to Alabama or wherever, but the former is better for America while still creating American jobs.

Hell if anything, I'd think it'd make MORE jobs, because mass construction, even for space construction, still uses more lower skilled work than rockets. They could dramatically widen the number of Americans in the space industry if they were putting up 50-100k tons a year.

[Anonymous No.10923383]

>>10923307
Oh snap you weren't kidding
I want that homo to end his patreon chatter so I can post a timestamp

[Anonymous No.10923386]

rumor going around the office is the avionics fried themselves about ten feet before landing

[Anonymous No.10923387]

>>10923383
1:42:20

[Anonymous No.10923389]

Starship has flown higher than SLS

[Anonymous No.10923393]

>>10923380
>Northrop is making the next American ICBM
Yes, but Northrop isn't ULA and has nothing to do with the rest of America's launch capacity right now, Delta/Atlas.

>and their OmegA rocket is all solids.
And also dead. ULA and SpaceX are getting the AF contract and that was its only possible hope, it's fucked. They're going to retreat exclusively to ICBMs.

[Anonymous No.10923405]

>>10923341
>SHUT DOWN SPACEX. NOISE POLLUTION IS KILLING REAL AMERICANS.
It's actually been really fucking hilarious to see the media hunting around there trying to find someone who is mad about SpaceX and finding fucking no one who gives a shit or isn't outright excited about it.

[Anonymous No.10923407]

0 benefits to American tax payers.

[Anonymous No.10923408]

>something about how SpaceX is a scam without providing any evidence
>something about how reusable rockets is just a stunt and it'll never happen, again without any evidence

[Anonymous No.10923409]

>>10923389
I farted after a bunch of mexican the other day and generated more thrust than SLS has.

[Anonymous No.10923410]

>>10923386
evidently not

[Anonymous No.10923412]

>>10923386
lel what
that's hilarious
last flight of hopper, I guess

[Anonymous No.10923413]

>>10923405
Got any examples? That's pretty funny..

[Anonymous No.10923414]

>>10923393
>ULA and SpaceX are getting the AF contract

BO seems to think the first and third contestants (SpaceX and Northrop) will get the contract based on their protest.

[Anonymous No.10923418]

>>10923412
It was always the last flight, but if the avionics had actually busted they would not have been able to land the vehicle.

[Anonymous No.10923419]

>>10923407
are you not entertained?

[Anonymous No.10923422]

>>10923418
when we publish a picture of the landed hopper, look for missing feet, chunks missing in concrete pad

[Anonymous No.10923425]

>>10923422
>when we publish a picture of the landed hopper, look for missing feet, chunks missing in concrete pad

Everyone could see that at the end of the stream already. The "beach balls" were meant to be crushed.

[Anonymous No.10923429]

>>10923418
I would believe that it could survive a ten foot drop as the rocket throttled down after it failed closed

[Anonymous No.10923433]

>>10923413
There is some tall, skinny kid from KVEO, or maybe KRGV can't keep those straight who was trying SO DAMN HARD to get grievances and dirt from the locals and wowitsfuckingnothing.jpg. He was trying to lead them hard. "Aren't you frustrated by the noise/traffic/danger" or "when you retired, did you think you'd have to live next to *waving hands* all this?!?". Result, nada, ain't getting anywhere. Glorious. Even the most crotchety, old-Texas, overalls-wearing grumpy old men seem to be in the "well, they pay for everything they break and it's only a couple of times a year, and, plus, it's exciting" camp. Like yeah if SpaceX was there all the time it'd probably get old but for occasional tests it's just cool, and it's also a real American pride thing. But of course pride in being American is Highly Problematic and everyone must be angry all the time.

[Anonymous No.10923434]

>>10923413
Media tried with some shill astronomers claiming star link would block all astronomy

[Anonymous No.10923435]

>>10923429
the puffs of gas when landing were rcs right?

[Anonymous No.10923440]

>>10923435
Those were cold gas RCS thrusters pulled from Falcon 9s, yeah.

[Anonymous No.10923441]

>>10923433
>it's also a real American pride thing. But of course pride in being American is Highly Problematic and everyone must be angry all the time.
Oldspace seems to forget that SpaceX is an American company though.

[Anonymous No.10923445]

>>10923440
then avionics can't have died because there was rcs activity right until touchdown

[Anonymous No.10923446]

>>10923433
fuck these lugenpresse oldspace fags

america's destiny is the stars

[Anonymous No.10923448]

>>10923445
I concur (I'm the guy you're replying to).

[Anonymous No.10923449]

>>10923433
>KVEO, or maybe KRGV
Both of those have many pieces of starhopper. Can you give more details to narrow it down?

[Anonymous No.10923450]

>>10923435
halfway down there are RCS puffs

[Anonymous No.10923452]

>>10923434
>Media tried with some shill astronomers claiming star link would block all astronomy
Right, and meanwhile real astronomers were like
>HOLY SHIT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A TELESCOPE ON THE FAR SIDE OF THE MOON OR BEYOND THE ASTEROID BELT AAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
because if you've got that kind of mass/size budget to play with for literally 20+x less money per kg than shit does that open up a lot of options for space astronomy. If we could build Top Kek class telescopes in space Earth based EM would become obsolete in a real hurry (though neutrinos, grav wave and so on might keep being useful for a while).

[Anonymous No.10923453]

>>10923343

[Anonymous No.10923455]

>>10923422
>>10923425
crush-capable feet were 100% used up, also you could see a fire on the left side of the engine as it was descending, look at the webm anon posted here earlier

[Anonymous No.10923457]

>>10923453
kek

[Anonymous No.10923459]

>>10923453
DELET THIS

[Anonymous No.10923461]

>>10923300
>gif
are we in 1990?

[Anonymous No.10923464]

>>10923449
>Both of those have many pieces of starhopper. Can you give more details to narrow it down?
Sorry anon I was watching this hop from my notebook not my main system, can't seem to find the clip though somebody must have it on yt for mockery because it was so pathetic. If I have it on my pc at home I'll put it up when I find it.

[Anonymous No.10923465]

>>10923453

[Anonymous No.10923466]

>>10923363
lol wtf really

[Anonymous No.10923467]

>>10923434
I vaguely remember a piece about how Starlink polluting the night sky would negatively affect uncontacted tribes (like the Sentinelese), because seeing new "stars" that are different from what our ancestors have seen thousands of years ago would mean that the tribal cultures of these people would deviate from what it would've been if Starlink was never a thing. Which then impacts the study of these people or something like that.

Idk, that piece felt like it was reaching.

[Anonymous No.10923468]

>>10923287
>Oh it was just a COPV that flew off
Fucking COPVs, how do they work?

[Anonymous No.10923469]

>>10923453
hahaha holy shit anon. This might actually manage to make me stop thinking "Senate Launch System" everytime I see SLS.

[Anonymous No.10923472]

>>10923468
they're powered by KRUSTY WANTS OUT energy

[Anonymous No.10923476]

>>10923455
It free fell for about a second at the end, maybe ten feet

[Anonymous No.10923478]

>>10923453
quick, someone make this in KSP and launch it.

[Anonymous No.10923481]

>>10923323
It's RP-1/kerosine compared to gasoline/petrol you use in a car.

[Anonymous No.10923484]

>>10923467
>Idk, that piece felt like it was reaching.
Yeah, I mean, not even engaging in the tempting mockery but taking that seriously for a second, is there any place humans inhabit on the planet that never sees jet contrails? Or has pollution wash up or whatever? Train has sailed on that one, a few extra low profile sats in the night sky is kind of the least of the concerns.

[Anonymous No.10923486]

>>10923221
Get assblasted nasa-cuck

[Anonymous No.10923487]

>>10923476
So it probably dropped a bit, and the impact dislodged one of those roof (RCS?) tanks, sending it spinning through the air?

[Anonymous No.10923488]

>>10923468
lel

[Anonymous No.10923489]

>>10923487
probably, it'd only have to shear off one side for the resulting jet to produce enough thrust to snap any moorings and cleave off the other end of the pipe

[Anonymous No.10923490]

here's the timestamp for the COPV that went for a flight
https://youtu.be/m0MTtqzzf-U?t=6142

[Anonymous No.10923492]

[Anonymous No.10923493]

>>10923369
The hat was just for aesthetics

[Anonymous No.10923495]

>hey here's this metal tube the size of a subway tunnel
>we slapped an engine on it and some leftover RC thrusters
>why yes, it flys perfectly and lands with 100% accuracy, why do you ask?
Anyone else looking at reusability must be really fucking jealous.

[Anonymous No.10923498]

>>10923488
yeet

[Anonymous No.10923501]

>>10923495
Hopefully is a sign that spaceflight is moving away from

>We would like to do this, but we would need hyper specialized equipment to do this which we don't have so it's not possible in this century

to

>We can do that. It's all a matter of finding a big enough rocket for it.

[Anonymous No.10923504]

>>10923467
Not to mention that satellites, upper stages and the space station are already very visible quite often when you actually take time to look at the night sky.
The people complaining about this literally never took 10 minutes to actually look into the sky, though, which really fucking defeats any sort of argument they could have had.
That whole media campaign was a farce.

[Anonymous No.10923508]

>>10923369
They removed the tip to work on the tank, but forgot to strap it down so the nose got blown over in the wind and turned into scrap metal.
They could've easily built a new one, but Elon thought the welders were better occupied building the orbital prototypes instead.

[Anonymous No.10923509]

update: engine exploded just before touchdown, which explains the hard landing, avionics failure, liberated COPV, etc

[Anonymous No.10923510]

>>10923509
fucking really?

[Anonymous No.10923511]

>>10923509
source

[Anonymous No.10923512]

>>10923509
sauce

[Anonymous No.10923513]

>>10923446
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USQMeVt9Tzw
My nigga

[Anonymous No.10923514]

>>10923512
>>10923511
source is me, believe it or don't

[Anonymous No.10923515]

>>10923501
There will still be some limits even at $50/kg to LEO, because there are still faring size limits and that still adds up in a hurry anyway. It'll take more actual space infrastructure to really kick everything off, we need to be able to reliably and cheaply assemble stuff from parts, and also have electric tugs or the like so it's super cheap to move things around once you actually get them into minimal orbit.

But it'll be revolutionary anyway and definitely open a lot of projects that just weren't viable before.

[Anonymous No.10923517]

>>10923514
elon?

[Anonymous No.10923520]

Man, feel like this must be like watching the Mercury project or something, what a time to be alive. When we actually do touch down on Mars this will be a clip that is played in the news about it, this is the start of the rocket that really changes everything for space. I'm glad I got to see it live.

[Anonymous No.10923522]

>>10923520
this was redstone

[Anonymous No.10923524]

>>10923520
Yeah, thats what people have noticed about SpaceX. Their ability to take risks, do fast prototype tests, do real innovation. Something that NASA has lost since Apollo era.

[Anonymous No.10923528]

>>10923490
>forgot to mute
>now have hearing damage and the neighborhood woke up
Fuck you, Dodd.

[Anonymous No.10923530]

>>10923524
>Something that NASA has lost since Apollo era.
I know who to blame for that.

Really it's not just Nixon tough. The whole US govt is to blame for that one. They didn't see spaceflight as a new frontier to explore and claim, they just saw it as a political tool against the Soviets. And once that tools usefulness was gone, they stripped everything down at NASA.

[Anonymous No.10923532]

>>10923524
>Something that NASA has lost since Apollo era.
I think the Shuttle was the real end of the line for old NASA. It was the big compromise system, massively compromised to fit needs of military actors for example like the AF (who then never actually used it for those purposes) and then a huge budget suck that just killed the forward momentum that might have come from further improving and evolving Saturn instead.

[Anonymous No.10923535]

>>10923509
I do not belive you.

[Anonymous No.10923541]

>>10923530
Read up on von Braun. What NASA did to him after the moon landings was nothing short of criminal, given that that one man got us so close to opening up the final frontier

[Anonymous No.10923543]

[Anonymous No.10923544]

>>10923532
>fit needs of military actors for example like the AF (who then never actually used it for those purposes)
That was mainly due to the fact that the Shuttle was given very little in the way of development money. NASA had to sell it to the USAF for extra funding, and that's why the USAF was reluctant to use it. However, the rest is spot on. Once the Shuttle was flying it became so expensive that it was politically impossible to ask for more money to improve the Shuttle. And since the Shuttle was soaking up so much money, it was difficult to ask for even more money to do other stuff.

However, the Shuttle was the ONLY vehicle that NASA had that could go to space. So NASA was stuck with it.

[Anonymous No.10923545]

>>10923490
WTF happened?

[Anonymous No.10923546]

>>10923543
>R2D2 screech intensifies

[Anonymous No.10923547]

>>10923545
hop machine broke

[Anonymous No.10923548]

>>10923543
yeah, definitely think the color change of the exhaust stream was dust getting pulled into the jet. You can see here where the exhaust freshly out of the engine is pale blue, but the jet further down into the dust is that orange color.

[Anonymous No.10923555]

>>10923490
YYYYYEEEEESSSS OOOOOOOHHH BABY YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
>water towers can fly
lol

[Anonymous No.10923556]

>>10923545
Very, very high pressure helium tank broke off during the landing and went its own ways.
If you want to learn more about these composite overwrapped pressure vessels, just open page 666 in your Necronomicon.

[Anonymous No.10923562]

>>10923556
The only pressurized, non-fuel/oxidizer gas in the hopper, as far as I'm aware, is nitrogen.

[Anonymous No.10923565]

>>10923556
>Very, very high pressure helium tank broke off during the landing and went its own ways.
I think these COPVs were actually just nitrogen anon. The full Starship won't use them at all, raptor features autogenous pressurization, but it made a bunch of things easier and faster for testing and maybe RCS too.

[Anonymous No.10923566]

>>10923555
yeah I hate that guy

[Anonymous No.10923568]

>>10923562
>>10923565
Oh. My mistake then.

[Anonymous No.10923579]

>>10923568
Well, you're right about them being pretty crazy stuff normally, and Falcon does use them with helium (and also a standard pyrophoric igniter). And even with just nitrogen it'd still be under crazy pressure.

[Anonymous No.10923581]

>>10923490
absolutely kerbal

[Anonymous No.10923585]

>>10923547
Understandable, have a nice day.

[Anonymous No.10923604]

>>10923373
the crew dragon capsule has never been mounted to a falcon heavy, anon

[Anonymous No.10923609]

Now to wait for another month for FAA to approve a 2km hop using the Starship MK1 prototype with 3 raptors.

[Anonymous No.10923611]

>>10923509
If the engine exploded then why is it still there after the hop was finished anon? Am I seeing something that isn't an engine mounted in the bottom center of the hopper?

[Anonymous No.10923617]

>>10923609
they won't launch from boca chica afaik, so the FAA won't get their panties all twisted up

[Anonymous No.10923625]

>>10923604
>the crew dragon capsule has never been mounted to a falcon heavy, anon
And? It never will be either because Falcon Heavy will soon be obsolete itself. SH has come along a lot faster then originally anticipated, so the hole for FH to fill will be closed pretty quick.

[Anonymous No.10923626]

>>10923617

Correct. I believe Elon said that if the StarHopper did not RUD after its 150M hop, it would go on either display at SpaceX HQ or it would be used as a mounted test stand for multi-raptor static fire testing.

[Anonymous No.10923629]

>>10923625
i was just pointing out that there's something incorrect about the picture that was posted, dummy

[Anonymous No.10923633]

>>10923611
I think it was one of those small tanks at the top of the hopper that flew away

[Anonymous No.10923639]

>>10923633

It's just nitrogen gas in those COPVs, which is naturally inert. There's no harm in it flying away.

[Anonymous No.10923654]

>>10923453
The synthesis that will pierce the outer firmament...

[Anonymous No.10923657]

>>10923639
No harm!?!?! Are you ill? That tank could've flown off and hit someone! That person would be dead!!! This would've never happened if a professional AMERICAN space company rather than some cheap knock off.

How many lives should SpaceX take before it's "too much"? huh? Are you going the trust the lives of real breathing AMERICANS on one of their burning matchsticks that fly apart if you so much as look at them? Any sane AMERICAN would say NO WAY JOSE!

This is why we should ONLY trust AMERICAN ROCKETS built in the PROUD SOUTHERN STATES. Where we study our rockets down the bolt to make sure they're safe to fly on. Where we guarantee REAL JOBS for those capable.

GO SLS!!!!

[Anonymous No.10923662]

>>10923657

SpaceX is built in America, by an American company, fueling American jobs, hiring American Citizens, in the Southern United States of America.

[Anonymous No.10923666]

>>10923662
>in the Southern United States of America.
B-but that's the racist part of america!

[Anonymous No.10923667]

>>10923666
spaceflight is racist, please understand

[Anonymous No.10923670]

>>10923667
This. Spaceflight is literally white man's burden in space.

#racismisreal #metoo #racistspace #penniesforpoor

[Anonymous No.10923674]

>>10923657
There's just so many jokes around SLS and White Elephants that it's hard to even know where to start.

[Anonymous No.10923677]

>>10923670
>#penisforpoor
You're sitting on a goldmine Trebek.

[Anonymous No.10923684]

>>10923674
My "old standby" is this.
>“Let’s be very honest again. We do have a commercially available super heavy lift vehicle. SLS may someday come about. It’s on the drawing board right now. Falcon Heavy is real. You’ve seen it down at Hawthorne. We’re building the core stage. We have all the engines done, ready to be put on the launchpad at Kennedy... I don’t see any hardware for an SLS, except that they're going to put Shuttle parts together and that becomes SLS. It’s not that easy in rocketry.”

[Anonymous No.10923705]

>>10923629
>not pointing out the other incorrect something

[Anonymous No.10923711]

>>10923666
digits confirm

[Anonymous No.10923735]

>ULA sniper hit the copv to sabotage the landing

[Anonymous No.10923761]

[Anonymous No.10923767]

>>10923761

[Anonymous No.10923804]

>>10923735
>ULA sniper
foolish theory, they've only had like 5 years of notice that's not nearly enough time for ULA to form committees to decide upon a sniper

[Anonymous No.10923809]

>>10923804
5 years to decide on a sniper? That's barely enough time to perform a study on which sniper rifle caliber should be used!

[Anonymous No.10923889]

>>10923373
If those new green storable propellants can be used in full size rockets, why couldn't we go back to using liquid fueled ICBMs?

[Anonymous No.10923898]

>>10923889
you totally could, and they'd be safer and have better performance

[Anonymous No.10923913]

>>10923898
>>10923889
guys, is NG actually on suicide watch right now?

[Anonymous No.10923914]

>>10923889
oh umm... LOOK! SpaceX had a rocket that exploded that one time! This shows that SpaceX is TOTALLY UNRELIABLE. Imagine if 7 astronauts were on that rocket! They would be DEAD! Knowing SpaceX they would probably load up another rocket with 7 more people on it without addressing what made the last one explode because SpaceX is a GREEDY company and improving their rockets would be too expensive! The only way into space is on guaranteed government money that'll keep coming out to RELIABLE AMERICAN contractors even if they're late so they can continuously improve their work to make NASA rockets safer than ever.

GO SLS!!!

[Anonymous No.10923916]

>>10923914
>they would be DEAD
the abort system would have activated and they'd have landed nearby

[Anonymous No.10923925]

>>10923916
How does Starship's abort system work?

[Anonymous No.10923928]

>>10923925
they turn the engines on while dumping propellant to get the T/W above 1

[Anonymous No.10923932]

>>10923916
>not realizing that it's a reference to the Shuttle

[Anonymous No.10923934]

>>10923932
it's untrue
if you're going to make dank memes you need to get your information correct

[Anonymous No.10923948]

>>10923934
>implying that a FUD memer is going to get information correct

[Anonymous No.10923953]

>>10923948
well, that's why we correct them

[Anonymous No.10924047]

>>10923509
Nice b8 m8

[Anonymous No.10924053]

>>10923914
>.t ThundecUCk

[Anonymous No.10924057]

>>10924053
Has he ever said anything about SLS? His videos about spaceflight are mostly cringeworthy so I don't keep up with them.

[Anonymous No.10924058]

>>10923670
You're right....You know what Non-whites cant use our spacestuff. Peace out

[Anonymous No.10924063]

>>10924057
No. He likes NASA

[Anonymous No.10924461]

>>10924053
Who?

[Anonymous No.10924758]

>>10924461
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgtLjj4Ka08
Enjoy this dumpster fire...

[Anonymous No.10924987]

>>10923953
no, that's why you report them
they don't care about being correct, they're here specifically to shit on the floor endlessly and ruin threads

[Anonymous No.10925007]

>>10924987
I just think he was making a sarcastic joke about how some asshats think spacex rockets blowing up is some abject failure of rocketry. When we all know Nasa has had people killed due to their shit

[Anonymous No.10925109]

>expendable ss/sh
>~300 tons to leo

Can we assume expendable mode will cost less than 500m?
If yes then JUST all space programs. They should be trialed for treason and embezzlement on titanic scales.

[Anonymous No.10925131]

>>10925109
Once Starship replaces Falcon9 as their workhorse, then I suspect, their numbers will be ~100-200M for expendable.

[Anonymous No.10925150]

HOP

[Anonymous No.10925196]

>>10924758
What the fuck kinda whackadoodle is this?