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Post opinions of the following degrees Anonymous Tue Jul 30 18:35:47 2019 No.10850382 [Reply] [Original]

>Mathematics
>Physics
>Chemistry
>Biochemistry
>Biology
>Mechanical Engineering
>Electrical Engineering
>Chemical Engineering
>Software Engineering
>Computer Science
>Statistics
>Economics
>Psychology
>Sociology
>Philosophy
>English
>Business Administration
>Finance
>Accounting
>Marketing
>Communications

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 18:40:06 2019 No.10850396 >>10850382 > smart > math, physics, computer science > hard working: > medicine, law > brainlets > everything else > con artists > philosophy, sociology, psychology

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 18:40:24 2019 No.10850397

>>10850382
God tier:
Mathematics
Physics
Good tier:
Electrical Engineering
Chemical Engineering
Decent tier:
Biochemistry
Statistics
Economics
Psychology
Philosophy
Mechanical Engineering
Bad tier:
Sociology
English
Business Administration
Finance
Accounting
Marketing
Communications
Computer Science
Shit tier:
Biology
Software Engineering

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 18:58:40 2019 No.10850426

>>10850382
I'm going to assume these degrees are approached in a ideal manner (you have amazing proffesors, you are studying really hard, all things are okay, you are at a top university that's ideal in every way etc.) and also that you only care about the degree not about career prospects. That being said:

Top/Best:
>Mathematics
>Physics
>Philosophy

Very good:
>Electrical Engineering
>Mechanical Engineering

Good:
>Software Engineering
>Chemical Engineering
>Chemistry
>Biochemistry

Okay:
>Computer Science
>Psychology
>Biology
>Finance
>Accounting
>Marketing

Meh:
>Economics
>Statistics
>Bussiness Administration

Bad:
>Communications
>Sociology
>English

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 18:59:15 2019 No.10850428

>>10850382
Each has their own place in a diversified economy - some more than others. That said, a good metric for the breath of knowledge required to be learnt can be determined by the drop out rate for each of these degrees, which in the case of stem, in particular the hard sciences, is around >50%

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 20:16:44 2019 No.10850606 >>10850396 >Smart >Comp sci Lol, 8/10 bait

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 20:19:50 2019 No.10850614 >>10850382 >useful >useful >useful >... >useful hope you enjoy what you're studying everyone!

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 20:37:03 2019 No.10850653

>>10850382
>you'll do well in grad school
Mathematics
Philosophy

>good luck getting into grad school
Physics
Chemistry
Sociology
Psychology

>good luck getting into med school
Biochemistry
Biology

>could be both intellectually and financially rewarding for the right person
Economics
Computer Science
Statistics

>could be very rewarding or boring depending on ability/ambition
Mechanical Engineering
Electrical Engineering

>boring but decent job prospects
Chemical Engineering (sometimes)
Software Engineering
Finance
Accounting

>your degree was a networking opportunity
Business Administration
Marketing
Communications

>Teacher and/or mrs. degree. Good luck with the novel.
English

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 20:40:30 2019 No.10850664

>Mathematics
useful, but there's a lot of useless conjectures in the more advanced fields
>Physics
useful, in my opinion the most general of the sciences...meaning you'll understand the most difficult problems in chem, biology, and engineering if you study this. but people tend to look down on physics majors as being too "theoretical" so it's harder to find a job.
>Chemistry
useful, but I would concentrate on a specialized field of chem.
>Biochemistry
useful, better than a vanilla bio degree or a vanilla chem degree
>Biology
brings nothing new to the table
>Electrical Engineering
useful, but too empirical for me
>Chemical Engineering
useful, but too empirical
>Software Engineering
useful, but too empirical
>Computer Science
not a real scince, but you can learn a few things
>Statistics
very useful, I would recommend this degree. But aim for at least a masters degree.
>Economics
useful, but remember this: ancon is more like game theory applied to social science...and not really about money
>Psychology
Over saturated, but nice to take as an elective or side-study
>Sociology
I would learn Econ instead....I think it's more scientific
>Philosophy
same opinion as psychology
>English
Too general and saturated
>Business Administration
useful, but not as rigorous as finance and Econ.
>Finance
useful a good choice to minor in.
>Accounting
useful, there's good money in this field now. Don't really know to much about it though.
>Marketing
meh...just study a little psychology on the side and you'll be good at marketing.
>Communications
useful, but you can pick up this skill on the side in elective classes.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 21:35:45 2019 No.10850829

Best

1. Math
2. Physics

very good

3. Mech Eng , ECE
4. Statistics
5. Software Eng
6. Comp Sci
7. Economics\Finance (if heavy math focus)
8. Chem Eng
9. Chemistry
10. Biochemistry
11. Biology

Acceptable

12. Psychology
13. Accounting
14. Business Admin
15. Marketing

Retarded

16. Philosophy
17. Sociology
18. Communications
19. English

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 23:37:13 2019 No.10851174

>>10850382
Epic and based:
>Mathematics
>Physics
Based:
>Chemistry
>Biochemistry
>Biology
>Mechanical Engineering
>Electrical Engineering
>Chemical Engineering
>Software Engineering
>Computer Science
>Statistics
Cringe:
>Economics
>Psychology
>Sociology
>Philosophy
>English
>Business Administration
>Finance
>Accounting
>Marketing
>Communications

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 23:47:46 2019 No.10851198 >>10851174 High level mathematical economics and finance use stochastic analysis, time series analysis, and optimization. Why do you consider them cringe?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 23:48:09 2019 No.10851199 Based: >what i like Cringe: >what i dont like

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 23:52:58 2019 No.10851209 >>10850382 you already listed them on the range of good to shit so

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 00:17:17 2019 No.10851263
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>>10850382
>>Mathematics
can tend to be a bit autistic/catatonic towards anything else in life
>>Physics
same as maths but a bit more grounded although they are even more unemployable
>>Chemistry
wanted to do stem but also wants to go light on the maths
>>Biochemistry
>>Biology
all the booksmart ones that did not go other places end up here
>>Mechanical Engineering
does not give a shit about the field and just wants the dosh while being able to act as if it is high school science classes still
>>Electrical Engineering
central asians
>>Chemical Engineering
had the self-respect to skip physics but chemistry is too dry
>>Software Engineering
pajeet/monkey central
>>Computer Science
the autists from maths who suck at maths go here. Also the weebs
>>Statistics
t. linear algebra was fun but not THAT fun
>>Economics
mostly people who misunderstood what it was about but also die-hard enthusiasts
>>Psychology
catch-all degree
>>Sociology
all around ok people, I have nothing
>>Philosophy
parents wanted you to study something
>>English
catch-all degree
>>Business Administration
that one type of woman
>>Finance
soulless career drones
>>Accounting
I have nothing and I have no idea how anybody could get themselves to study this
>>Marketing
literal npcs
>>Communications
catch-all degree and/or see philosophy

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 00:51:55 2019 No.10851333 >>10851198 Because muh cant predict a recession

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 02:38:39 2019 No.10851516

>Mathematics and physics
Very important, but thankless as a job
>Chemistry
At least it's not biochemistry
>Biochemistry
At least it's not biology
>Biology
Saturated and dumbed down
>Mechanical Engineering
"I don't know what type of engineering to do but I want money" or "I like cars"
>Electrical Engineering (my degree)
Autistic
>Chemical Engineering
Pays well, jobs are harder to find
>Software Engineering
Pajeet
>Computer Science
Based as a topic but the people studying this are even more autistic than electrical engineers.
>Statistics
Important and based
>Economics
Only know 1 econ major, but good as a topic
>Psychology
For women who want to get drunk and dicked down at uni
>Sociology
Same as above but "woke"
>Philosophy
People who don't know what to do with their lives and also the based people who have a deep interest in a superficially useless topic
>English
Trash tier
>Business Administration
For people that don't know what they want to do so they did what everyone else did
>Finance
Soulless drones who dream of working 90 hours a week at J. P. Morgan
>Accounting
Will be automated soon
>Marketing
Worthless to society and the self
>Communications
Same as above, but the people I see doing this seem to be even more retarded

>S tier for those interested in research
Math
Physics
Philosophy
>S tier for making money
Engineering, especially electrical, chemical, and computer
Finance with Ph.D
>S tier liberal arts
Philosophy from an ivy

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 16:53:36 2019 No.10852980 >electrical engineering good >anything else bad

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 17:22:25 2019 No.10853086 >>10850382 No environmental or geoscience. Please OP. Tell me I didnt make a mistake.

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 18:22:51 2019 No.10853243

>>10850382
>Mathematics
Nerds
>Physics
Nerds
>Chemistry
Nerds
>Biochemistry
Nerds
>Biology
Nerds
>Mechanical Engineering
Idiots
>Electrical Engineering
Nerds with potential
>Chemical Engineering
Lazy nerds
>Software Engineering
Nerds
>Computer Science
What?
>Statistics
Idiots
>Economics
Even more idiots
>Psychology
Nerds
>Sociology
Nerds
>Philosophy
Nerds
>English
Nerds
>Business Administration
Lol
>Finance
Math dropouts
>Accounting
Same as above
>Marketing
Literally brainlets
>Communications
Radio nerds

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 18:54:53 2019 No.10853322 >>10850606 I wouldn't say compsci is smart, but tediously admirable

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 19:01:46 2019 No.10853347

>>10850382
>>Mathematics
based
>>Physics
based
>>Chemistry
based
>>Biochemistry
shit
>>Biology
shit
>>Mechanical Engineering
somewhat based
>>Electrical Engineering
somewhat based
>>Chemical Engineering
somewhat based
>>Software Engineering
dumb because you don't need a degree for it
>>Computer Science
dumb because you don't need a degree for it
>>Statistics
meh
>>Economics
meh
>>Psychology
low tier
>>Sociology
low tier
>>Philosophy
meh
>>English
low tier
>>Business Administration
meh, can be good money but shit in other regards
>>Finance
meh
>>Accounting
low tier
>>Marketing
low tier
>>Communications
meme tier

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 19:06:45 2019 No.10853364 People not liking Stats, what are your reasons?

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 19:07:26 2019 No.10853365

>>10850606
Depends on the school and whether they're math/CS or software dev only CS. Two different worlds that host two different types of students
I have a sneaking suspicion that members of the former group are people who post a lot on /sci/ but get stereotyped as the latter group by other people on the board

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 19:08:25 2019 No.10853368 >>10853364 Boring as fuck, piss easy, anything they do can be done better by pure math majors

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 19:13:53 2019 No.10853390

>>10853368
I'm on my last year of math, pure concentration.
I don't know where this meme that statistics is boring came from, since intro to stats is boring shit, but measure/probability, experiment design, CLT, and the ability for mathematics to actually model certain processes with simple ideas is fascinating. I unironically think most math majors have the idea that statistics is about applying calculators to churn out tests, but stat theory is ridiculously interesting the deeper you go.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 19:14:51 2019 No.10853396 >>10853364 Unwarranted sense of elitism

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 19:15:28 2019 No.10853398

>>10853347
>>Software Engineering
>dumb because you don't need a degree for it
Agree
>>Computer Science
>dumb because you don't need a degree for it
I've never met somebody serious about CS who wasn't a pure math / TCS or systems CS double major. I consider that to be a complete degree

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 19:15:37 2019 No.10853399 >>10850396 >con artists Nice cope

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 19:17:15 2019 No.10853407

>>10853396
yeah lol but look at math and physics majors
most people like to claim the accomplishments of their field without actually having contributed anything. It's easy to feel superior when you feel like you're part of the movement that charted fundamental bases of reasoning, rather than understanding that you are in a long line of the many who appreciate the results and are still like a little baby.
t. math major

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 19:17:31 2019 No.10853408
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>>10850382
>best
>great
>great
>fine
>shit
>shit
>shit
>fine
>shit
>utter disgusting shit
>lol, don't make me laugh. math for failures.
>trash
>trash
>shit
>lmao
>respectable
>waste
>total waste
>complete waste
>makes me laugh
>AAAAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHA

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 19:20:05 2019 No.10853413

>>10853390
Yeah it's interesting, and even advanced as a theory, but then you graduate and you become enslaved to your employer doing brainlet tier applied work. Unless you're good enough to get into research or consulting the degree is not worth it imo, very unfulfilling work under people who have no idea what you're doing or how to let you do your job in an optimized manner.

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 19:22:25 2019 No.10853422

>>10850382
>judging people based on their degree and not on their body of real work
clearly a board of undergrads and young shitters
the degree, whether in industry or academia, is just the milestone between you and your career. nobody, especially in academia lol, gives a shit about your undergrad degree.
I know like 6 people who did CS undergrad and do various topics in math or physics grad (I think 1 of them is in number theory, 2 in analysis, 1 in comp. physics, and the other two in combinatorics). Nobody questions their credentials

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 19:24:35 2019 No.10853428

>>10853413
>but then you graduate and you become enslaved to your employer doing brainlet tier applied work
Then you aren't really talking about statistics being "boring as fuck" but some idea of career prospects.
I don't know where you've worked, but I've had a friend in stat who did an internship and thought was really interesting, and from what he told me, it didn't sound like it was soul crushing or "brainlet-tier." It sounds like you're going off the impression of industry work in stat rather than what stat may or may not be.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 19:24:41 2019 No.10853429 >>10853408 you sound like you had your entire personality restructured by /sci/ that or you're french either way, it's a damn shame

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 19:24:54 2019 No.10853431

>>10853413
>very unfulfilling work under people who have no idea what you're doing or how to let you do your job in an optimized manner.
this, high iq + PhD in math only to be bossed around by some management cumdumpster hoe with a business degree who earns twice your salary

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 19:31:22 2019 No.10853444

>>10853428
True, and I will admit I like the field, but really a degree should be judged with career and post-graduation prospects in consideration (Unless you actually want to make poverty level wages as a TA and labslave, be my guest). Admittedly it's most of the """"Data Science"""" jobs that are like that as well, so yeah I guess you're right.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 19:34:26 2019 No.10853453 >>10850614 :)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 19:35:08 2019 No.10853456 >>10853429 he's mostly spot on >>10853398 >serious about CS

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 19:36:45 2019 No.10853460

>>10853444
>really a degree should be judged with career and post-graduation prospects in consideration
I agree with this much
>(Unless you actually want to make poverty level wages as a TA and labslave, be my guest)
You're doing that thing where you're judging an entire career path based on some impressions or worries/insecurities people have. A good amount of grad students are well funded and don't have to wageslave even while doing a postdoc. The hard part is that people suddenly expect prestige and money to follow specialization rather than writing up a body of work and gets them respect within their subject.

In short, they expect the deal to be like an MD where you study a lot and then make money, when really you're studying a lot...so you can study more as a career, until people see that your work has a lot of deep insight. It's not a bad career, and is incredibly rewarding if that's what you want (fame among the people you work with, especially, students, and lots of high impact papers)
> it's most of the """"Data Science"""" jobs that are like that as well
I agree. Fuck ""data science"". Some super smart software eng friends I have hate them to death because they're almost all useless buzzword shitters who know python commands that can spout out pretty graphs but can't actually solve a problem to save their life.

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 19:39:51 2019 No.10853465

>>10853456
>hurr durr CS guis
I hate how /sci/ has bitten the pill that there's nothing to be serious about in CS. They all think it's software engineering, or something in ""data science'" or something super basic like sipser's book. There's a reason why people like Kolmogorov, Cook, Knuth, Karp, etc. are prolific in the math and CS communities. I mean look at
https://eccc.weizmann.ac.il/report/2010/151/
>he doesn't think this is something fun worth being serious about

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 19:52:58 2019 No.10853502 File: 1.78 MB, 3344x2508, Adobe_20190720_182414.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >when materials science isn't even included but the meme degrees are

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 19:53:21 2019 No.10853503 >>10853465 no it looks like faggot shit sorry you're gay dude

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 19:54:33 2019 No.10853505 >>10853502 You're a glorified mechanical engineer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 19:56:12 2019 No.10853509 >tfw fell for the energy engineering meme

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 19:56:30 2019 No.10853510

>>10850382
your major doesn't define you. 80% of the people graduating with the above majors will start a (probably poopy) career in "data science" of some sort and the remaining 20% will be graduate students because they "don't know what to do with their lives"

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 19:57:58 2019 No.10853514
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>>10853505
No! I produce single Crystal SiC and cool shit, I make optoelectronic measurements of my Organic LED devices! I make goddamn dielectric waveguides for VR tech!

I'm no smelly, greasy, mechanical engineer

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 20:01:54 2019 No.10853527 >>10853503 pee pee poo poo

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 20:14:33 2019 No.10853557 >>10853527 r u mad ?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 20:15:18 2019 No.10853559 >>10853505 Imagine believing your one mechanics of materials class is an entire material science overview Lol there’s a reason why it’s in pretty big demand atm. Every field needs materials

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 20:30:08 2019 No.10853591 >>10853559 >>10853514 Where's that graphene you guys have been promising for so long?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:02:54 2019 No.10853772 Shameless self bump >geoscience >geochemistry >environmental science >natural resource economics

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:34:51 2019 No.10853817
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>>10853460
>I agree. Fuck ""data science"". Some super smart software eng friends I have hate them to death because they're almost all useless buzzword shitters who know python commands that can spout out pretty graphs but can't actually solve a problem to save their life.

Not him, but I agree. Just using Scikit Learn and Tensorflow without understanding the mathematics behind what you're doing nor having common sense means that you will likely fuck everything up royally. That's why it's better to study statistics, physics, mathematics, econometrics, and other related majors than to major in """data science""" which waters down everything. If you want to git gud, you're better off learning the mathematics and learning the coding in your free time. The code may not be as efficient, but at least you can identify and solve a problem.

Pretty graphs are only meant to give you an idea of what's going on with the data and to please the dipshits in management, not to make accurate predictions which will provide value.

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:38:47 2019 No.10853822

>>10853817
>not to make accurate predictions which will provide value.

Fucked that sentence up, I meant to say that pretty graphs mean dick if you have no idea what's going on. You need to get your model down fucking tight with minimal room for error before you make a business decision.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 09:40:31 2019 No.10854695 >>10853557 i shiddy pants

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 09:54:03 2019 No.10854715 >>10853772 What do you want those added to the list or why did you post that?

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 10:01:52 2019 No.10854723

>>10850382
Employable:

>>Software Engineering
>>Computer Science
>>Accounting
>>Business Administration

No employable:

>>Mathematics
>>Physics
>>Chemistry
>>Biochemistry
>>Biology
>>Mechanical Engineering
>>Electrical Engineering
>>Chemical Engineering
>>Statistics
>>Economics
>>Psychology
>>Sociology
>>Philosophy
>>English
>>Finance
>>Marketing
>>Communications

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 10:32:42 2019 No.10854788 >>10854723 >No employable >Any type of engineering My brother is an alcoholic with barely a 3.0 GPA and still has a job as a mechanical engineer. 6/10 bait, you made me reply.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 10:48:04 2019 No.10854820 Why is everyone hating on CS?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 11:02:02 2019 No.10854848 >>10854820 Computer science is not really computers and it is not really a science. Beyond that, CS programs have been casualized to glorified trade schools.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 11:07:44 2019 No.10854861 >>10854848 Yeah, but it's other cool stuff like AI, neural networks and computer graphics. Where is that? In the USA?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 11:19:10 2019 No.10854883 cybersecurity chad here, fuck compsci get vendor certs in firewalls and ccnp and life is cake

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 11:23:06 2019 No.10854891 >>10854788 I wrote that post. I'm a Chartered Engineer with a 3.7 and facing yet another economic downturn. Don't talk shit to me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 11:23:26 2019 No.10854893 >>10854848 Compute Science is not about computers but it's certainly a science. Just because some shitty colleges uses that name for their code monkey classes, doesn't mean the field itself is not scientific.

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 11:25:32 2019 No.10854896
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>>10854848
>not really computers
Yeah, not in a tech support or physical sense in most cases, unless you do embedded / distributed
>not really a science
It’s a field of mathematics and has become topics in science and engineering. The world changed a lot since ableson and sussman taught MIT 6.001. There are empirical results and considerations in how we talk about various parts of CS. But the theory, through and through, is all classic mathematics.
When people say it’s not about computers or about science, there’s an extent to which they’re wrong now. It’s as much science or math as you want to get into a specific subfield.
Unfortunately most undergrad programs are pretty watered down to become code academies. I wish they’d have a stronger mathematical basis at more schools and then emphasize topics like systems more rather than multiple software engineering classes. I was lucky that my school was theory focused, and the only software engineering class was optional and not even relevant to the degree. I did a double major in CS and math (pure concentration).
>>10854861
Graphics research groups are cool because they’re part of visualization methods in physics and engineering as well. I never knew how cool graphics was until I saw them do a lot of sigproc shit in research.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 11:32:27 2019 No.10854911 I'm a biochem student, It's interesting but is possibly too broad, depends on what uni you go to as modules vary quite a bit

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 12:03:54 2019 No.10854975 >>10854891 >Chartered Engineer >UK Oh, I actually have no idea what the job market is like there. Engineers are guaranteed jobs here in the US.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 12:10:59 2019 No.10854991 Chemistry is a fun major, and known to hard (it has the lowest average GPA of all majors). but in terms of career prospects, probably only better than psychology and earth science.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 12:43:57 2019 No.10855037 >>10851174 philosophy was a base for many sciences, maths and physics being the major ones, but philosophy of today sucks midget's ass

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 12:48:18 2019 No.10855041

Based:
>Philosophy

Good:
>Physics
>Mathematics
>Psychology

Boring:
>Chemistry
>Biochemistry
>Biology
>Mechanical Engineering
>Electrical Engineering
>Chemical Engineering
>Software Engineering
>Computer Science
>Statistics
>Economics
>Sociology
>English
>Business Administration
>Finance
>Accounting
>Marketing
>Communications

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 12:56:56 2019 No.10855052 >>10850396 You need an undergraduate degree to get into law school.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 13:07:17 2019 No.10855066 >>10854975 The USA is great, but only for now, you're about to get a fuckton of immigrants. Not just hordes of Indians, but EU engineers too,

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 13:12:20 2019 No.10855074 >>10855066 I think its already starting actually. Half the EE's at the place I'm interning at are Indian.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 13:20:36 2019 No.10855089 >>10855074 Yup and this will keep lowering your salaries. Enjoy the immigration meme.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 13:28:52 2019 No.10855103 >>10850382 >Mathematics Should have gone for that instead of IE.

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 15:18:43 2019 No.10855307

>Mathematics
Cool, but you'll probably need to aim for an unrelated carreer (I suppose you could go into statistics or use your knowledge for economics, though)
>Physics
Good choice in general, can apply if good enough to something really nice.
>Chemistry
More or less physics but I consider it a bit worse.
>Biochemistry
I do not care for it, do whatever you want with this.
>Biology
Fuck you.
>Mechanical Engineering
Good enough.
>Electrical Engineering
Pretty good, my friend.
>Chemical Engineering
Same as electrical engineering, solid.
>Software Engineering
You're probably mentally deficit.
>Computer Science
Meh.
>Statistics
Not good but I suppose you could make some money with it.
>Economics
Decent.
>Psychology
Why?
>Sociology
Fuck you but this one is a stronger fuck than both biology and software engineering.
>Philosophy
You're a pompous asshole.
>English
Meh.
>Business Administration
You are a bland person and no one finds you interesting.
>Finance
Go for economics instead.
>Accounting
Go for economics instead.
>Marketing
Go for economics instead.
>Communications
Go for fucking anything else.

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 15:27:56 2019 No.10855324

>>10850382
It will always boil down to
>my field: this is pretty good friendos
>closely related one: pretty good too!
>closely related two: also good
>...
>popular yet unrelated: ehh, okay
>...
>rest: are you even trying
People here are absorbed in their career path and want to convince themselves that they chose the path that “covers” most options so they
1) got a return on investment
2) indulge in the “oh yah I could do X work with enough prep time”
Math majors who hate engineering majors, engineering majors who hate math majors, physics majors who think they’re math+science majors, CS majors caught in a meme of what they education is, bio majors being shit on for doing a lab heavy / theory light subject etc etc
It’s all so tiresome

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 16:56:29 2019 No.10855526 >>10855324 Thank you anon, finaly someone said it.

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 17:09:38 2019 No.10855557

>>10850382
>>Mathematics
harmless and not so expensive
>>Physics
mental masturbation big science shit.
>>Chemistry
cool and mostly "harmless" like math. meth labs are side effect
>>Biochemistry
sort of a meme
>>Biology
stamp collecting
>>Mechanical Engineering
replaced by AI in several years
>>Electrical Engineering
unbearable/see physics
>>Chemical Engineering
see chemistry
>>Software Engineering
why
>>Computer Science
why
>>Statistics
"i just want to pay my bills" tier
>>Economics
"excel clerk" tier
>>Psychology
>>Sociology
>>Philosophy
harmful
>>English
>>Business Administration
>>Finance
>>Accounting
>>Marketing
>>Communications
shit tier

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 18:12:15 2019 No.10855715 >>10855307 >he must be exaggera- >>10850396 >>10850397 >>10850426 >>10850664 >>10850829 >>10851174 >>10851263 >>10851516 >>10852980 >>10853243 >>10853347 >>10855041 >>10855307 >>10855557 Oh Like pottery

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 18:28:45 2019 No.10855759
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I'm on track to graduate with a B.S. in biochemistry, but I just realized if I stay one extra semester I can also double-major in physics. Is a B.A. in physics going to be useful at all?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 19:00:28 2019 No.10855865 >>10855759 No, why would you WANT to stay an extra semester? I assume you're going to grad school in biochemistry, a physics dual major wouldn't really help.

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 19:13:58 2019 No.10855880

>>10855759
your BS in biochemistry isnt useful at all. You need a masters at the very least, and even then you're gonna be hard pressed to find something. PhD or med school is the only real viable route for biochemistry grads.
t. biochem graduate program

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 19:23:34 2019 No.10855898

>>10850382
>>Mathematics
S Tier if Applied. A tier if Pure. Only hacks that don't care about being employed do Pure Maths.
>>Physics
B tier: good, but not Maths
>>Chemistry
>>Biochemistry
>>Biology
Good for not getting a job other than academia or a few odd jobs.
>>Mechanical Engineering
>>Electrical Engineering
Nice, well-rounded degrees that usually result in employment
>>Chemical Engineering
Better than just pure Chemistry in appliability, but same for job-market prospects
>>Software Engineering
Pajeets love this
>>Computer Science
Asians and weebs love this
>>Statistics
>>Economics
Absolutely based in all regards.
>>Psychology
>>Sociology
I can't do math and/or I'm a woman
>>Philosophy
Better than the two before, but a stagnant field with NO prospects outside academia.
>>English
I can't do math and/or I'm a woman, and I want to teach zoomies
>>Business Administration
The Psychology/Sociology combo of Econ./Finance; not rigorous, generally only mommy and daddy's people take this to get a job as a Manager @ the Uncle's Co.
>>Finance
Based, albeit less intellectual than Econ., and more filled with hooked noses
>>Accounting
Okay all around.
>>Marketing
>>Communications
lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 19:38:10 2019 No.10855921 >>10855898 you’re not very intelligent

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 19:46:11 2019 No.10855950 >>10855898 >I did finmath and think that I'm the shit: the post lol your bias is showing

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 19:47:38 2019 No.10855952 >>10850382 >undergrad Pointless and doesn't matter what you do >graduate What actually matters

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 19:50:55 2019 No.10855963 >>10855952 Rate them at the graduate level.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 19:51:40 2019 No.10855966 >>10855952 >preschool Pointless >elementary school Pointless >middle school Pointless >highschool Pointless >undergrad Pointless >postgrad Pointless >Mcwageslaving What actually matters

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 19:55:01 2019 No.10855980 >>10855952 Unless you're an engineer. Then you can make six figures with a high school knowledge of calculus.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 22:16:39 2019 No.10856284 >>10850382 I did chemical engineering and make 45$ an hour so it’s based. I’m applying to grad school however

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 22:19:57 2019 No.10856295 >>10855952 another grad student on vacation and bored i see.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 22:21:25 2019 No.10856301 >>10856284 >I did chemical engineering and make 45$ an hour so it’s based. I’m applying to grad school however Are you involved in petroleum? If not, how many years of experience do you have?

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 22:23:40 2019 No.10856305

>>10856301
I got an internship my junior year. Had a 3.8 gpa. I work for a contractor at the Hanford site. Not related to petroleum. Only 2 years of experience out of college. Same company however. I think I got lucky but I also impressed them enough that I asked for 85k salary and they said yes

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 22:25:27 2019 No.10856310 >>10856305 >>10856301 Also friend. If you’re still a student, GET A FUCKING INTERNSHIP it makes everything easier

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 22:35:15 2019 No.10856324
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>>10856310
>TFW computer/electrical engineer
>TFW Dad knows a guy and gets me internship
>TFW I hate engineering now and just wanna get a PHD in computational math
FeelsWeirdMan

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 22:37:50 2019 No.10856326

>getting a degree in 2019
For the price of a degree, you can buy a Ford Raptor and do nothing for 4 years. After that you will be in the exact same place had you been if you got a degree, because a degree alone means nothing, except you would have a 4 year old Raptor and memories of having fun.

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 22:38:13 2019 No.10856327

>Mathematics
Not meaningful on its own; it's the fact that you CHOSE mathematics which is valued.
>Physics
Science-fan rather than scientist.
>Chemistry
Babby scientist who couldn't into real science.
>Biochemistry
Actual scientist. (or someone role-playing as one)
>Biology
Teacher
>Mechanical Engineering
Responsible for bridges falling.
>Electrical Engineering
Responsible for houses catching on fire.
>Chemical Engineering
Steals money from the government.
>Software Engineering
Shitty programmer.
>Computer Science
Probably also a shitty programmer.
>Statistics
Smart way to make money if you know what you're doing.
>Economics
Smart way to make money if you don't know what you're doing.
>Psychology
If you don't know how pretentious you are, I feel sorry for everyone around you. If you do, then, well, more power to you.
>Sociology
Hah.
>Philosophy
I'm sure you're already well aware of how meaningless your degree is. Real philosophy is 100% never going to come from your discipline. The best you can hope for is contextualizing something.
>English
Feel kinda sorry for them. Everyone on the planet just kind of forgot how to write all at once.
>Business Administration
Probably a decent paycheck? Think of it more as a vocation than a degree.
>Finance
Probably a decent paycheck? Think of it more as a vocation than a degree.
>Accounting
Try statistics and becoming an actuary, pleb.
>Marketing
Ha. It's funny because it's true.
>Communications
Yes, yes, very funny. Now name an actual field.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 22:38:43 2019 No.10856329 >>10854715 It's what I'm doing. Major in Environmental Minor in Natural Resource Econ Undergrad research in geochemistry >I've got two publications on their way for this coming year. With be presenting in Hawaii and Virginia this year as well.

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 22:38:47 2019 No.10856330

>>10856324
Yes friend I understand. Computer engineering can be very comfy though if you find the right niche. It’s a really solid backup plan so props for that. If you want to get a PhD in computational math you should go for it! I’m going to get my PhD in rheology. I’m very glad I did engineering, no regrets

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 00:01:32 2019 No.10856454 >>10855865 >>10855880 What about biophysics? My priority is getting into a competitive biophysics masters program.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 01:06:47 2019 No.10856536 >>10856327 Holy shit, like pottery it's exactly as >>10855324 described

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 01:44:14 2019 No.10856592 >>10856454 go for the PhD. master out if needed, but dont stop at masters if you can, you're only marginally better than a bachelors. And often times places prefer to hire bachelors because they are cheaper than master's

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 14:18:50 2019 No.10858090 >>10856329 Please tell me I didnt mess up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 14:34:15 2019 No.10858123 Why is everyone saying that math and philosophy are good for going to grad school/research? I'm a double major in math and phil and based on the research I've been doing it's basically impossible/unstable as fuck to go to grad school in either field

Anonymous Fri Aug 2 14:37:58 2019 No.10858140

>>10858123
the fuck are you on about? I've never met a math major who didn't get to choose what grad program they wanted to go into (as in, their topic). I've seen math go into math, TCS, physics, engineering, etc.
In any event, doing math as a grad topic means you have to topload a lot of work into your PhD and first postdoc years, but as far as my peers, collaborators, and advisors have told me, it gets way comfier after you dip your toes in the pool

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 15:02:35 2019 No.10858221 >>10858140 I see. I think things are different in the states actually. For the most part, in order to go into a phd in a particular field in the states, you basically have to have had an undergrad degree in that field.

Anonymous Fri Aug 2 15:28:10 2019 No.10858268

>>10858221
I am in the states. There's spread and I've seen lots of grad mobility. Math -> mathematical sciences. I've seen physics and CS majors do math grad as well. This is especially true if your undergrad research is in another field or interdisciplinary

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 15:34:47 2019 No.10858281 >>10858268 Damn. Ok. I will have to explore some more options then. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 21:38:46 2019 No.10859183 I just want some validation here anons.

Anonymous Fri Aug 2 21:42:11 2019 No.10859189

>>10850382
I just graduated with a Mechanical engineering and a Nuclear engineering undergrad degree. Just passed the Mechanical FE/EIT licensing test and working towards becoming a Nuclear Engineering PE one day. If you have any particular questions that i can answer ill do my best!

Anonymous Sat Aug 3 00:30:41 2019 No.10859538

I'm not sure what kind of opinion you want us to give on those degrees, but I rank this way regarding how important they are for civilization:

>S tier:
Mathematics, Philosophy
>A tier:
Chemistry, Biology, Physics
>B tier:
Biochemistry, Mechanical Engineering, Electrical Engineering, Chemical Engeneering, Computer Science
>C tier:
Statistics, Economics, Sociology, Finance
>D tier:
English, Business Administration, Psychology
>E tier:
Accounting, Marketing, Communications

None of these are useless professions, but it's just that some are more important and/or useful than others. For example, without mathematics and/or philosophy, nothing below A tier would exist.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 00:39:43 2019 No.10859558 >>10856454 masters in bio are as good as nothing at all, a total waste of time >>10858221 no you don't lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 00:51:41 2019 No.10859584 this is pretty easy: >CS >soft eng cringe >everything else varying degrees of cringe and based but none as cringe as the above

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 13:51:32 2019 No.10861066 >>10856326 >drives American cars haha, look at this faggot After you go German (BMW, Audi, Mercedes), there's no going back kiddo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 13:54:56 2019 No.10861072 Whats wrong with biology? Seeing a lotta trash ratings for this field

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 13:58:08 2019 No.10861078 >>10861066 Have you ever driven one of the higher performance challengers ? I have a SRT hellcat challenger and the thing is just pure ecstasy. That being said my dream car is a 2015 SLS AMG.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 17:49:49 2019 No.10861531 >>10861078 Boomers begone

Anonymous Sat Aug 3 18:01:00 2019 No.10861553

>Mathematics
>Physics
top tier

>Chemistry
>Biochemistry
>Biology
there be girls there

>Mechanical Engineering
meh

>Electrical Engineering
>Chemical Engineering
>Software Engineering
>Computer Science
elite tier, 6 figures guaranteed minutes after graduation

>Statistics
will end up as python programmer in financial institution

>Economics
good if you get an MBA after

>Psychology
>Sociology
>Philosophy
>English
literally mcdonalds

>Business Administration
>Finance
>Accounting
>Marketing
formal training to become an office clerk, might be mildly successful at 40 if a management position opens up in your company

>Communications
beneath comment

Anonymous Sat Aug 3 18:10:47 2019 No.10861562

>>10861066
I really like german cars, a friend of mine has a bmw 335i and its beautiful, but I recently bought a toyota, because why should I give my money to a country that is killing itself and trying to kill other countries with things like unlimited rapefugee immigration?
I am european and merkel opened the borders I have been avoiding buying anything german or made in germany.

Anonymous Sat Aug 3 18:18:01 2019 No.10861569
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>>10850382
>>Mathematics - Awesome. High paying jobs.
>>Physics - Same
>>Chemistry - Actually interesting and awesome
>>Biochemistry - Epic
>>Biology - Bretty dam usefull desu
>>Mechanical Engineering - Classic, useful
>>Electrical Engineering - Nutty and awesome
>>Chemical Engineering - Holy shit, cool
>>Software Engineering - The future
>>Computer Science - Same
>>Statistics - Analytical af and awesome
>>Economics - Super trippy, awesome
>>Psychology - Deep, personal, awesome
>>Sociology - Yes
>>Philosophy - Ha, so awesome
>>English - Fuck yea
>>Business Administration - Love it
>>Finance - $$$ very nice
>>Accounting - Pay accountants whatever they want
>>Marketing - Great, so nice to have good marketing people
>>Communications - Same

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 18:22:10 2019 No.10861578 >>10861066 oof. Car gatekeepers are the lowest form of human.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 18:22:49 2019 No.10861580 >>10861531 You dont like hell cats ? what are you gay ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 18:23:52 2019 No.10861585 >>10861553 What about nuclear engineering ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 20:37:37 2019 No.10861848 >>10861585 top tier but not elite

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 20:42:56 2019 No.10861857 >>10861848 I did both nuclear and mechanical and i'm trying to teach myself coding and computer systems concepts on the side- because that really is elite teir.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 21:41:22 2019 No.10861944 >>10850426 >also that you only care about the degree not about career prospects. Lol wtf, so where's the prestige and value based on the? Pleasing frog forum nerds such as you?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 21:47:32 2019 No.10861955 Do what you like, but accounting is your best bet job security/salary-wise. Better avoid math and physics, unless you want to go into academy, but then you wouldn't be asking here anyway. Don't go into marketing, philosophy or psychology.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 22:35:17 2019 No.10862010 >>10861562 Don't buy anything that runs on oil then because it comes from the middle east

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 23:09:43 2019 No.10862059 >>10861569 based

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 23:32:49 2019 No.10862106 mathematics, physics, mechE, EE, and CS tend to be the smelliest kids on campus.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 00:21:43 2019 No.10862178 ITT: failures without degrees

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 18:57:18 2019 No.10863998 >>10861944 >he makes his decisions based on prestige The value is in the subject and career, not from what it lets you claim about yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 19:02:10 2019 No.10864007 >>10863998 With philosophy you can flat out forget about career, with physics or mathematics you better excel at programming if you wish to get on with career.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 19:09:13 2019 No.10864020 >>10850426 What is a philosophy degree useful for? And how is it better than engineering?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 19:14:18 2019 No.10864035 File: 178 KB, 716x466, muh_feels.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10851263 >autists from math who suck at math

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 22:05:36 2019 No.10864457 >>10861580 >Anonymous No

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 22:26:29 2019 No.10864530 >>10861569 based optimistic post

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 22:29:21 2019 No.10864540 >>Mathematics Pretty much gonna starve

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 22:33:12 2019 No.10864555 >>10855921 I think you're pissy because I touched a nerve.

Anonymous Mon Aug 5 04:35:13 2019 No.10865246

>>10864007
>With philosophy you can flat out forget about career
I've seen a decent amount of philo grads in philosophy grad school, which is what they wanted after undergrad. Are you telling me that academia isn't a career?
>with physics or mathematics you better excel at programming if you wish to get on with career
I'm convinced that your world ends with the undergrad degree. These are all academically minded degrees that are made for research. Even so, the PhD in these two fields are well prepared for industry. Physics puts you into lots of contact with Monte Carlo simulations, and number theory especially puts you in contact with a lot of code (think sphere packing verification, etc). Either way, physics, math, TCS, philosophy, etc. are all based in research. You have failed to show exactly what "prestige" offers in the face that little to nobody has any inherent reason to care about your work until you care about your work, so you might as well do what you really like and do it well.

Anonymous Mon Aug 5 05:10:38 2019 No.10865297

>>10865246
>I've seen a decent amount of philo grads in philosophy grad school, which is what they wanted after undergrad. Are you telling me that academia isn't a career?

Being in grad school is not a career and I wouldn't even say you have your foot in the academy until someone is paying you regularly for your research or teaching.

> These are all academically minded degrees that are made for research
>the PhD in these two fields are well prepared for industry
Pick one. Engineering degrees are well prepared for the industry, and there you'll be competing with applicants who probably have gained more hands-on experience from an actual work while you were studying for PhD or whatever.

>monte carlo simulations, number theory, lots of code...
Yes, all very sought after things among people who are looking for someone to hire.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 05:41:01 2019 No.10865317 >>10850396 This is 100% true. t. Philosophy major

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 11:04:18 2019 No.10865768 What the fuck is communications

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 12:25:58 2019 No.10865954 >>10865768 I thought it was a class you take to fill your electives to look like you have more people skills during interviews ?

Anonymous Mon Aug 5 18:40:28 2019 No.10866844

>>10865297
>Being in grad school is not a career
It is the start of a career
>and I wouldn't even say you have your foot in the academy until someone is paying you regularly for your research or teaching
I mean, the PhD is regularly funded and has support for teaching. Yes, tenure isn't easy to get, but career researchers are well..in a career.
>there you'll be competing with applicants who probably have gained more hands-on experience from an actual work
Yes, the PhD is a research degree. For industrial career prospects, you literally apply to industry and company labs. There's a reason why google PhD CS hybrid research / engineering is such a coveted position. Also
>actual work
I feel like there's this major subtext that research isn't "real work" or that it's fucking around with numbers, papers, and computers. It's all hard work, and most people choose not to appreciate its results since
1) industries are very reluctant to change their current methods unless they're making a loss, and even then, when It comes to technology specifically, they are very reluctant to change. Scientific research is risky by its nature
2) there's personal bias in saying "hurr durr, all that work that's technically involved in theory and grad school is all useless," which isn't really the case; it's the perspective of short sighted profit margins that science doesn't pay immediately, so people take that lack of investment as lack of utility. Just as some academics jerk themselves off to their positions, some engineers jerk themselves off on how "useful" they perceive their work to be as opposed to the next guy. Both of them are wrong

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 18:53:12 2019 No.10866862 >>10853364 Probably even more boring than Accounting. When someone says that he is a statistician or studies statistics I’ll just assume that you’re boring.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 18:57:56 2019 No.10866873 >>10853408 You must really hate making money

Anonymous Mon Aug 5 18:59:32 2019 No.10866878

>>10866862
>probably even more boring than Accounting
You're comparing things like the central limit theorem and experiment design to fucking unironic excel sheets, basic finmath and calculus, etc. Stat is legitimately interesting, because there are deep reasons as to why good experiments work.
t. EE

Anonymous Mon Aug 5 19:01:28 2019 No.10866886

>>10866873
dude you criticize him on the "hurr durr but money tho" and not on the faulty premise.
No fucking stem undergrad program at a sufficiently good school is significantly different in inherent difficulty because there's only so much you can ask an undergrad to actually do. Even grad prep analysis is baby tier compared to something like geometric flow. People are the sum of their work, not their basic fucking undergrad education.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 19:16:02 2019 No.10866928 >start EE >freshman >Find out I suck at math. >Still truck forward the first 2 years kys, change degrees or force it? How hard does it get?

Anonymous Mon Aug 5 19:22:13 2019 No.10866951

>>10866928
Which math is giving you trouble? Math isn't everything in EE, and you can more or less subsist on matching physical phenomena to the mathematics you need to understand. Of course something like a Laplace transform won't make immediate sense, but you can contextualize it in its utility.
You'd better get comfortable with calc 2 integration techniques (parts, various trig substitutions, some basic pattern matching, etc) since it'll be your bread and butter for dealing with Fourier transforms.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 19:31:03 2019 No.10866978 >>10861066 I have a 6 series BMW. And a Raptor. And no degree. Checkmate.

Anonymous Mon Aug 5 19:44:53 2019 No.10867001

>>10866951
Its not the arithmetic part of it, I could solve a stock question in a test without much problems. The problem is how I solve them. I still remember how I drilled myself in calc 4 in which I did fine. However wasnt that I understood what was really being asked but I remembered how the particular question could be solved. It was in line of question X has to be solved using Y, and it has variable of Z.

For the record if you threw a z-transform at me I couldnt solve it for shit. Im not sure how long this type of thinking will take me. I dont feel like I can actually think creatively enough to solve actual hard problems.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 19:47:13 2019 No.10867006 >>10867001 Continuing on the trail of though. Every time I answered a test I was just following rules or applying them. That doesnt feel like something constructive even when I knew what was being asked.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 20:16:00 2019 No.10867074 To what degree can it be said, that the hate here towards computer science stems from cs undergraduates in the US being mostly just code monkeys?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 20:37:57 2019 No.10867130 >>10866862 Accounting is insanely boring I took two classes for my finance minor. Statistics is interesting especially time series analysis

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 02:30:35 2019 No.10867708 >>10855898 Finally someone who got it right

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 03:06:15 2019 No.10867735 The whole business field (accounting, finance, economics and marketing) is just really boring.

Anonymous Tue Aug 6 03:24:16 2019 No.10867758

>>10850382
>Math
Based
>Physics
Based
>Chemistry
Cringe
>Biochem
Cringe
>Biology
Cringe
>"*" Engineering
Cringe
> Computer Science
Based
> Statistics
Based
> Economics
Austrian / Chicago School: Based
Marxist / Keynesian: Cringe
> Psychology, Sociology
Cringe
> Philosophy
Classical: Based
Modern / Postmodern: Cringe
> English
Based
> Business Administration, Finance, Accounting, Marketing, Communications
Cringe

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 03:33:36 2019 No.10867769 >>10867758 >computer science is based found the comp sci brainlet

Anonymous Tue Aug 6 03:34:51 2019 No.10867770
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>>10867758
>>Math
>Based
based
>>Physics
>Based
somewhat based
>>Chemistry
>Cringe
cringe
>>Biochem
>Cringe
cringe
>>Biology
>Cringe
cringe
>>"*" Engineering
>Cringe
somewhat based
>> Computer Science
>Based
potentially based if you specify to a PhD in Computer Science
>> Statistics
>Based
i want to say that this is based, but a mathemativs degree with a focus is probably better, so this opinion is only somewhat based
>> Economics
>Austrian / Chicago School: Based
>Marxist / Keynesian: Cringe
I don't know enough to determine whether this is based or cringe.
>> Psychology, Sociology
>Cringe
this is probably based, but I feel lile psychology has some lind of application, so this is probably based with a dollop of cringe.
>> Philosophy
>Classical: Based
>Modern / Postmodern: Cringe
I don't know enough to determine whether this is based or cringe.
>> English
>Based
i want to say that this is based but it's probably cringe
>> Business Administration, Finance, Accounting, Marketing, Communications
>Cringe
this is probably based.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 04:14:22 2019 No.10867830 Is it dumb to study Bsc. CS if your goal is to work in ML research or algo trading? My main concern is that the programme had less math than say engineering physics.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 04:16:59 2019 No.10867834 >>10867830 >algo trading? If money is what interests you should probably just go full CS, learn some top niche skill and cash in on some top tech job.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 04:41:26 2019 No.10867867 >>10867830 If you are studying CS to work in ML research, you don't have a clue what you are doing. Study mathematics.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 07:44:53 2019 No.10868112 >Mech eng based >comp sci cringe >communications trash >the rest ... based

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 11:21:00 2019 No.10868466 Computer science is a super category over mathematics, and mathematics is a proper superset over physics. There is no reason to study physics if you can study computation and mathematics

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>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 11:47:28 2019 No.10868514 >>10867867 ML is just a bunch of linear equations, if you understand algorithmic complexity you can do ML. A math degree isn't useless, but you're more likely to break in with CS using a good portfolio of applied ML undergrad projects.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 12:12:38 2019 No.10868561 >>10861066 haha, look at this faggot he wants to have to pay shit loads of money on every single minor repair

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 12:15:32 2019 No.10868565 >>10867758 >> Philosophy >Classical: Based >Modern / Postmodern: Cringe cringe

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 13:50:32 2019 No.10868807 >>10861569 This post irks me a lot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 13:56:39 2019 No.10868830 File: 12 KB, 520x566, GeolBWDrawing.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Don't forget geology

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 15:13:21 2019 No.10869006 >>10868830 (you)

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 15:21:34 2019 No.10869014 File: 62 KB, 426x405, 1514838827347.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10855898 You seem to have a good idea about the state of economics and related subjects, unlike most of the tards ITT.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 15:33:35 2019 No.10869047 >>10867735 Economics is less about business and more about the economy. Of course too many people go into the subject thinking they're gonna learn how to make loads of money.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 15:36:33 2019 No.10869056 >>10869047 I has the rigorous feel of a psychology and you still have to do a ton of math. Couldn't get any worse.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 15:38:09 2019 No.10869061 >>10869056 I love it but that's because I enjoy understanding how the world works at a societal level. Not for everyone.

Anonymous Tue Aug 6 17:33:36 2019 No.10869308

>>10850382
Will get employed for sure:
> Electrical Engineering
> Software Engineering
> Computer Science

Lots of job searching but eventually will get hired:

> Mechanical Engineering
> Chemical Engineering
> Statistics
> Accounting (huge saturation is why I put it here)
> Finance
> Marketing
Tough to find a job but still possible:
>Mathematics
>Physics
>Chemistry
>Biochemistry
>Biology
>Economics
>Business Administration
>Communications
Unemployed with debt unless you get lucky:
>Psychology
>Sociology
>Philosophy
>English

Anonymous Tue Aug 6 17:35:14 2019 No.10869312

>>10867834
Honestly I enjoy finance and the stock market, it is not solely about financial gain as tech jobs pay equally and sometimes better.

>>10867867
Tell me if I'm wrong but when looking at LinkedIn and top researchers like 50% have CS with the second largest group is math. I know that CS degrees are often very software-engineering heavy which is what scares me a little as I am not that interested in it. Having said that, the reason why I don't want to study math is because it is badly regarded in my country but I'm considering doing two Bsc. in parallel. One CS and one mathematical statistics. I know a couple people who have studied CS+ econ in parallel but I'm not sure how hard CS and math stats is. It's not a double major or dual degree, it's literally two different bachelor's at different institutions.

Anonymous Tue Aug 6 18:21:28 2019 No.10869416

>>10856326
I've had the most fun in university I've ever had in my life, and I've also learned a lot which is a big pleasure for me, whether I get to apply it or not. I live in a country with free higher education so I actually haven't paid a single dime for uni but even if I would have I wouldn't regret it at all, and I definitely wouldn't change it for a burger car and 4 years of not doing shit masturbating in my room

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 01:02:37 2019 No.10870395 >>10853243 >Mechanical Engineering >idiots >Electrical Engineering >Nerds with potential t.EE and I approve this message

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 05:35:02 2019 No.10870796 >>10855052 In America, brainlet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 07:05:45 2019 No.10870889 To what extend can it be said that /sci/'s hate towards computer science stems from actual computer science only happening on graduate level in the US while undergraduate CS is just code monkey school?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 13:34:04 2019 No.10871604 >>10854991 Got a job in a pharmaceutical company making $68000 1 year after graduating with a 2.5 in chem. Almost all my chem friends have really good job. I really don't understand this meme about chemists not being employable

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 05:30:06 2019 No.10873240 >>10859189 How much overlap do mech Engineering and Nuclear engineering have? How much of a future does Nuclear Power have, especially in Europe? Thanks

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 05:45:55 2019 No.10873265 >>10850664 What do you do for a living? Questioning your credibility. Tho interested in how you explain this degrees

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 05:47:22 2019 No.10873270 File: 68 KB, 322x413, Gabe.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ECON IS MATH.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 05:47:24 2019 No.10873271 >>10870889 Its a much deeper hatred than simple envy or elitism desu

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 06:37:15 2019 No.10873317 >>10873270 Literally who?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 10:01:00 2019 No.10873587 >>10850382 all shit except mine

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 10:11:17 2019 No.10873606 >>10871604 What's your highest level of education? What ranking was your school?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 15:41:33 2019 No.10874171 >>10873606 Bachelor's degree. Not really sure about the ranking but I think the hiring team didn't really care. I graduated from the University of Calgary btw

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 19:44:16 2019 No.10874615 >>10855557 >>Engineering Technology dropped as an infant tier

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 21:19:26 2019 No.10874793 Why does /sci/ shill for Math and Physics?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 21:22:02 2019 No.10874803 >>10874793 They can get you high paying jobs

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 22:26:14 2019 No.10874922 >>10874803 in your dreams maybe

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 11:41:08 2019 No.10875873 >>10850614 YASSSS

Anonymous Fri Aug 9 13:45:32 2019 No.10876058

>>10874793
Because it's the "purest" sciences and since the biggest potential for the majors is pursuing research and further the field, it's prenteniously seen as more academically elite. Also for those not going up academia, it's a flexible field for lucrative jobs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 13:49:16 2019 No.10876064 >>10874793 highest iq majors.

Anonymous Fri Aug 9 14:36:52 2019 No.10876131

>>10853086
Earth science degrees can be some of the most lucrative and directly employable if you’re smart, have practical skills, and are willing to travel to remote/harsh locations. You can also get a cushy job with the government pretty easily if that’s your aim. I’m a geochemist and easily poach jobs from envirofags.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 15:07:24 2019 No.10876181 >>10874171 My impression is that in Canada, the tiers are more compressed. It’s not so much like America where there are the top tier schools, then the mid tier, etc. In Canada, it’s more like “these schools can teach x subject and these ones can’t”.

Anonymous Fri Aug 9 16:32:55 2019 No.10876281

>>10850382
>Mathematics
Pure: Fun, but essentially mental masturbation that only occasionally pans out when you get past a masters.
Applied: Wait you mean you can't physically collect that data?! How else am I supposed to ge tmy model to work???
>Physics
Either massive tools or nice people. Sometimes both.
>Chemistry
Drugs and doing things massively underprepared because "That's how it always is"
>Biochemistry
Better drugs and doing things massively underprepared because "Noone knows wtf is going on"
>Biology
Basically brainlet teir until graduate school where it ramps tf up
>Mechanical Engineering
I wanna build
>Electrical Engineering
I actually want to build things
>Chemical Engineering
I wanna be a plumber, but like respectable
>Software Engineering
I don't want people to call me a CS major
>Computer Science
I will stare at any woman that is in a CS classs until they are no longer in that class
>Statistics
Like applied math but with a dash of divination
>Economics
Like stats but makes you feel slightly dirty
>Psychology
Neuroscience is making this field slowly obsolete
>Sociology
It's hard to do anything when it is literally impossible to get good data
>Philosophy
Like pure maths but somehow less useful
>English
I want to be a teacher or I love reading so much that I need to make myself hate it
>Business Administration
I like the sound of being in charge
>Finance
Like econ but dirtier
>Accounting
Like econ but boring
>Marketing
They teach racism, but call it other things like "target audiences" so they can put all the KFC and grape drank in the ghetto without feeling bad.
>Communications
Some idealists who leverage this into good things, mostly people that shouldn't have gone to college.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 17:05:43 2019 No.10876324 >>10876281 >Neuroscience is making this field slowly obsolete >Psychology You don't seem to know what psychologists and neuroscientists do. Otherwise, 7/10 for the effort.

Anonymous Fri Aug 9 17:19:26 2019 No.10876346

>>10876324
Psychology as it is right now is becoming obsolete. The actual profession of being a psychologist is different from a neuroscientist, ones a doctor the other is a scientist. But a degree in neuroscience doesn't make you a neuroscientist nor does a degree in psychology make you a psychologist. Everything lerned in the coursework for psychology is a watered down version of neuroscience with a list of non-reproducible studies tacked on. If someone is trying to become a psychologist I can near guarentee that any graduate program would accept a neuroscience degree holder over a psychology degree every time.

I mean my word choice could have been better though meant degree and not field; was mainly going for the jokes though. Thanks for letting me clarify.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 17:27:53 2019 No.10876360 >>10876346 >ones a doctor the other is a scientist. Psychologists are not doctors, Psychiatrists are. I didn't read any further.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 19:41:47 2019 No.10876666 I want a Chinese electrical engineer gf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmlISIEy_Vs

Anonymous Fri Aug 9 23:50:41 2019 No.10877151
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Absolute brainlet here, recent Biology BS grad (I regret it all). I like research, and worked in labs during university and always thought I wanted to get a PhD, but wasn't sure about whether or not I would be able to feed myself or find a job after it. I wanted to take a gap year or two to pay off my student loans but my worst fears came to fruition, and I feel like I majored in fucking basket weaving. I should've stolen some of the arsenic from the chem hood when I had the chance.

So /sci/, do I dig myself deeper into my own grave by going for the PhD (in a biology field like genetics or microbiology or something) or do I jump ship into something that isn't esoteric, oversaturated, and absolute shit? What ship do I jump to?
t. literal Biology NEET

Anonymous Sat Aug 10 00:13:12 2019 No.10877185

>>10850382
>Mathematics
Based since shit gets built on math models
>Physics
I think it’s cool, but we’re getting diminishing returns on utility
>Chemistry
Based but filled with people who can’t hack the maths or shit behind the system.
>Biochemistry
Biases because it’s my major. Lots of potential, good to invest, but full of fuckheads who only make arthritis meds when there’s opportunity elsewhere
>Biology
Why not specialize? 7/10
>Mechanical Engineering
Based. Good pay and lots of shit to engineer.
>Electrical Engineering
Mech eng bitch boi
>Chemical Engineering
Chem bitch boi who always gets paid more anyway
>Software Engineering
Money but no excitement unless you’re autistic. 6/10
>Computer Science
Above but a bitch boi to electrical and mat eng
>Statistics
The Jews of science, who will charge obscene amounts of money to run their special sets and make bank
>Economics
Good if you like golf
>Psychology
Good if you like sucking dick and getting pissed on by biochem studies
>Sociology
Please hang yourself
>Philosophy
Literally no utility but good to dab on brainlets
>English
Language science or go fuck yourself
>Business Administration
Want to play tennis?
>Finance
Want to play tennis on a yaught?
>Accounting
Good for midlife crises and having a dysfunctional family
>Marketing
The Jews of industry and a good career choice if you like lying
>Communications
Better than English and more important than philosophy 9/10

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 00:15:11 2019 No.10877188 >>10855966 this

Anonymous Sat Aug 10 03:25:32 2019 No.10877424
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Based
>maths
>physics
>philosophy

Solid but pretty normie
>chemistry
>biochemistry
>biology
>cs
>anything+engineering
>stats

Interesting fields, shit students
>economics
>sociology
>psychology
>english

Cringe
>finance
>accounting
>marketing
>communications

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 03:46:54 2019 No.10877452 >>10877185 Literally >>10855324 tier, holy shit no sense of self awareness in any of you

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 04:54:23 2019 No.10877533 File: 16 KB, 633x758, wojak mad.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10855324 This. The bio hate is annoying. Pic related

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 04:59:58 2019 No.10877542 >>10877533 Biologists tend to be retarded, the only subgroup that aren’t are people with a background in physics or math who could have easily gone into those fields. Premeds making up most of the undergrad pop doesn’t help, sorry but its all true.

Anonymous Sat Aug 10 05:17:41 2019 No.10877564

>>10861072
My guess is that it's people who took biology for non-majors which is a total joke (I've taken it for non-majors AND for majors; major's version was 100x harder) and have no love for biology to begin with so they pass it off as waste of time. Also probably job prospects aren't quite as good as some engineering stuff, but it's still real science.
>>10868507
>Are you a Furry
lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 05:56:01 2019 No.10877604 >>10868466 retard

Anonymous Sat Aug 10 05:59:56 2019 No.10877611

>>10877564
Bio is relatively easy from beginning to end, the grad level work in theoretical bio, biomath, biophys, quant genetics, comp bio obviously isn’t but such a small number of people are involved in that. making the claim that because some subset of individuals does real research that you can exonerate the whole major from being laden with idiots is stupid. people do this with cs and its stupid, no need to cope.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 06:46:58 2019 No.10877662 >>10877611 This applies to math as well

Anonymous Sat Aug 10 07:08:03 2019 No.10877679

>>10877662
Not in the same way, it could apply to any intellectually demanding field but bio is the largest of them all with the highest number of people who have literally no intention of doing research and who cannot even do highschool mathematics. Math majors are at least capable of understanding the trivial undergraduate course material, most biofags have no idea how anything in physiology, genetics or molecular biology works.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 07:38:20 2019 No.10877694 >>10853368 Statistics is actually very hard if you are actually doing statistics and not descriptive high school bullshit. It requires a fuckton of real analysis, differential equations, linear algebra, et al.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 09:21:45 2019 No.10877848 >>10877151 First step is determine what job you want. Stop focusing on the education. Once you identify what work you want to do, then the decision will be easy. But you have to pick something.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 15:26:44 2019 No.10878377 >>10877679 Right at first but completely wrong in the last part about knowledge in those 3 fields. You talk out your ass a lot and have no clue how it works. Really makes me wonder why some one would be so disingenuous on a science board.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 17:55:02 2019 No.10878593 >>10850606 >thinks compsci is the same thing as software engineering true compsci is about as theoretical as you can get. if you're writing programs that's not computer science.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 17:59:03 2019 No.10878604 File: 1.09 MB, 1092x1023, apumonk.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10850382 >no theology degree 0/10 post, delete ur thred.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 18:31:04 2019 No.10878647 >>10850382 >About to finish Eng major >Have loads of contacts, plus at least 12 letters of recommendation waiting to be written I’m getting a good job the second I’m out of here. Best of luck with your nonsense numbers and antisocial coworkers

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 18:31:21 2019 No.10878648 >i enjoy understanding how the world works at a societal level

Anonymous Sat Aug 10 18:34:25 2019 No.10878654

>>10878377
Sorry a 300 level course isn’t enough, most students don’t even read current research and can’t do linear algebra or multi they’re fucking tards and there’s no way around it. My point is that with these mid tier academic fields only people who are competent in maths and/or have some physical intuition are particularly bright or worth talking to, that’s such a vanishingly small number of CS, eng or Bio majors that its dishonest to suggest they are smart people. They are barely more intelligent than the average businessfag

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 19:55:14 2019 No.10878765 >>10878654 Where are all the English and Bio majors anyway? At my old university I met like 3 Bios and they all swapped majors after Freshman year. And I never met an English major, not one. Their program was one of the smallest on campus

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 23:10:08 2019 No.10879107 >>10869308 >>10854723 >>10850606 The degree-for-employment mindset is the mindset that leads to a life of complacency in the status quo. Knowledge soley aimed to making one merely a line of code in someone else's machine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 23:13:09 2019 No.10879112 >>10878765 at public schools mostly; lots of cute girls too, tinder is full of them. a great major if you want a relatively intelligent wife.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 11 00:21:25 2019 No.10879231 File: 78 KB, 700x734, baby cow tongue out.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10879107 There aren't a lot of creatives in the sciences. Namely math and physics. They live to serve the visions of others.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 11 00:21:35 2019 No.10879232 >>10877185 What made you choose Biochemistry?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 11 03:16:55 2019 No.10879436 >>10879231 This is blatantly false lol

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 11 03:29:14 2019 No.10879449 >>10879436 seething creativelet

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 11 08:16:10 2019 No.10879770 >>10851263 >can tend to be a bit autistic/catatonic towards anything else in life I have noticed this to. Can you explain why this happens tho?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 11 08:59:13 2019 No.10879825 >>10854723 wtf maths unemployable in uk?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 11 21:12:52 2019 No.10881260 >>10855052 Of which most are philosophy, history, or (god forbid) pre-law. As long as they planned ahead, they know they need a high GPA if they don't want to PD their entire careers

Anonymous Sun Aug 11 21:41:33 2019 No.10881353

>>10850382
>Mathematics
High school teacher tier
>Physics
High school teacher tier
>Chemistry
High school teacher tier
>Biochemistry
Failed med student tier
>Biology
Oversaturated, good luck ever getting a job even a teaching job
>Mechanical Engineering
Based as fuck. Employable as fuck
>Electrical Engineering
Based but oversaturated.
>Chemical Engineering
Good luck ever getting a job
>Software Engineering
pure meme but you'll get a job
>Computer Science
Based as fuck. By far the most employable major and high salary
>Statistics
Math but useful. You'll get a good job
>Economics
Okay, you'll get a job
>Psychology
Useless, oversaturated
>Sociology
Useless, oversaturated
>Philosophy
Useless, oversaturated
>English
Useless, oversaturated
>Business Administration
Useless, oversaturated
>Finance
Best non-STEM major. Employable
>Accounting
Pretty good but dreadfully boring
>Marketing
meh
>Communications
retard tier

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 11 21:43:06 2019 No.10881357 >>10881353 >Biochemistry >Failed med student tier bruh have you ever met a med student? Physical chemistry alone would send them crying home to their flashcards.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 11 21:47:45 2019 No.10881369 >>10881357 He’s using competitiveness for employment, projected earnings and saturation as his criteria not the difficulty and depth of the subject. Not a wholly inaccurate assessment either

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 11 21:48:08 2019 No.10881372 >>10881357 Out of 5 med students I've met 4 where biochem 1 was biology. All where bound for failure, sadly.

Anonymous Sun Aug 11 21:51:34 2019 No.10881380
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>>10850382
Megabrainlet communication major here. 5 years out of school, and I feel buyers' remorse every day and I consider it one of the worst mistakes of my life. You're right to shit on it, as much as it pains me.

That being said, what can I do now to learn? I tried reading philosophy and am getting into the /sci/ guides. I'm trying to learn more about basic logic and basic math, from there get into some harder sciences. Any advice at all?
>inb4 completely hopeless

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 12 00:13:02 2019 No.10881598 >>10881380 Flipping burgers and taking out the trash is always an option

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 12 00:35:24 2019 No.10881617 >>10881353 Physicists make more than Computer Research Scientists. Mathematicians make more than Statisticians, who make as much as Engineers. Finance makes less than the Engineers. >>10881369 >He Don't do this.

Anonymous Mon Aug 12 00:54:56 2019 No.10881640

Is there any point to a Philosophy degree? Most of the field seems to be a pointless semantic circle jerk. If a tree falls down and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound? Seriously?
Philosophy was great when we didn't have the scientific method, but now that we do, why not just specialize in a specific field?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 12 00:59:18 2019 No.10881648 >>10881617 dont tell me how to construct my mitwelt bitch

Anonymous Mon Aug 12 01:34:52 2019 No.10881703

>>10850382

I graduated ABET certified mechatronics degree with Msc.Eng. in 2nd tier EU country. Now I work as "CAD specialist" aka drafter for Tier 1 supplier since 2 years. My coworkers are all younger than me and hired through nepotism since I live in small town and this is best employer around, so we have rich kids/kids of management or old employees getting the job straight from high-school/welding machine.

I earn ~850€/month, my wife earned minimum salary (~430€/month) after 6 month internship in other firm, contract for 2 years.

My observations:

- study high-tech if your country has a lot of corporations HQ (important) and R&D centers, if it is manufacturing hub then you are fucked

- nice jobs are few and between and usually in Germany & USA, so if you are native citizen of those two countries, you already won life lottery, also because those 2 are main business languages

- knowledge of languages will give you more than degree

- mechanical engineering is very tiring mentally because of workload, schedules, retardation etc. while not giving much salary-wise. It's also pretty easy if you don't have responsibilities that can result in your imprisonment.

- do what others do, stay in big city in rich country with trendy and considered "prestigious" degree like CS or data science and start working early, then you'll have a chance of being well-off

- side effect of it is being childless in your 30s and either being permanently single or living with your high-school gf and never proposing (as seen from people my age)

So here it is. What more truthpills do you want to have? (will post in 0,5-1h from the job)

Anonymous Mon Aug 12 01:51:36 2019 No.10881724

>>10851263
Physics major here that decided against grad school pretty early on - I have a good paying job in software development, I’m self taught. My general opinion is that if you can major in physics you can pretty much teach yourself any employable skill. I’d assume the same is true for math majors. I like programming but I’m glad I didn’t waste a ton of money on majoring in software engineering and actually took interesting classes

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 12 01:56:06 2019 No.10881730 Also Math/Physics majors are pretty employable in the finance sector if you’re smart. They can make bank there.

Anonymous Mon Aug 12 02:00:26 2019 No.10881734

>>10881640
I don’t trust any mathematician or scientist who wouldn’t also say they’re a philosopher. Doing science for science’s sake is absurd - if you’re not constantly involved in philosophy in order to better yourself and to reach truth using science as a tool idk wtf you’re doing any of it for.

Anonymous Mon Aug 12 02:10:27 2019 No.10881752

>>10874922
this myth comes from the difference between getting a job _in_ physics and getting a job _with_ a physics degree. The former is very hard if you're not phd, and even then could be difficult, the latter is pretty easy. Not saying you're going to be making bank right out of college, but you can probably get fairly close to a 6 figure salary first job.

Anonymous Mon Aug 12 02:49:15 2019 No.10881801

>>10850382
>mathematics
makes you realize reality isn't your limit
>physics
cool
>chemistry
I want to make drugs from it
>biochemistry
finding best ways to kill yourself with chemistry
>biology
interesting
>Mechanical engineering
simply, if you want to make complex monstrosity's without electricity.
>electrical engineering
again finding the best way to kill yourself by a degree
>chemical engineering
look at biochemistry and electrical engineering
>software engineering
you can find a better educator online
>computer science
good enough
>statistics
shit mathematics for brainlets
>economics
shit can be outdated
>psychology
first neuroscience, than psychology
>sociology
they're good at lying
>philosophy
you find out shit yourself, but you just articulate it better. It's the fundamentals of human advancements, deep thought can be transcript-ed among-st others.
>english
helps me write a book.
>business administration
become a neet, or become a motivational speaker.
>finance
$$$$$$$$$$$
>accounting
what?
>marketing
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
>communications
it sounds comfy being a radio host

Anonymous Mon Aug 12 04:02:20 2019 No.10881878

>>10881617
>Physicists make more than Computer Research Scientists. Mathematicians make more than Statisticians, who make as much as Engineers. Finance makes less than the Engineers.
You're more then welcome to source this.
With that said I don't doubt physicist make as much as computer research guys but there are a limited number of physicist positions while there's a plethora for computer research. The vast majority of physics and math graduates will not work as physicist/mathematicians and they also will not earn high wages relatively speaking.
Also I never said finance makes more than engineers.
Engineers make more than statisticians, who in turn make about the same as finance.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 12 04:13:08 2019 No.10881890 >>10881734 What? Science is the study of the world we live in. If you want to label that philosophy then OK, but that doesn't make what's taught in philosophy degrees any more worthwhile.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 12 04:14:18 2019 No.10881891 >>10881734 >I don’t trust any mathematician or scientist who wouldn’t also say they’re a philosopher Cringe

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 12 04:34:17 2019 No.10881913 >>10881878 https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_nat.htm >there are a limited number of physicist positions while there's a plethora for computer research. There are almost 2 Computer Science Research positions for every 1 Physicist position.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 12 04:35:15 2019 No.10881914 >>10881801 Based

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 12 04:35:56 2019 No.10881915 >>10881878 >Engineers make more than statisticians, who in turn make about the same as finance. Most engineers make as much as Statisticians.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 12 04:41:08 2019 No.10881920 >>10881913 At least at my school there were a lot more CS students than Physics. I wasted time doing a CS minor so I got to see the sheer volume of them. Whereas my EM classes were about half a classroom size.

Anonymous Mon Aug 12 05:09:29 2019 No.10881951

>>10881913
Okay difference wasn't as big as I thought it was but there's a couple things to consider.
I'm comparing every job available and you're only looking at one specific job title. CS has far more options than computer research which needs a MS while for the physics job you'd need a PhD to be competitive. For CS a BS is enough to get a job but for physics a masters might not even cut it. There aren't many other physics jobs besides the one you listed and tons of physics majors graduate every year who will never go to graduate school.

If my comparison only took wages to consider chemical engineering would be highly rated above mechanical engineering and computer science but as there are hardly any jobs for that I instead commented on that.
Hell mechanical engineers make less money than EE's and CS but their jobs are so stable its arguably a better major. Its not just about pay, but also about job stability, accessibility, and number of opportunities.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 12 05:16:27 2019 No.10881965 >>10881951 >computer research which needs a MS PhD* Stop equating software development to Computer Science.

Anonymous Mon Aug 12 05:19:59 2019 No.10881968

>>10881915
>Most engineers make as much as Statisticians.
Alright, lets look at a comparison
>stats
>https://www.bls.gov/ooh/math/mathematicians-and-statisticians.htm
>pay: 88k average
>jobs: 40k
>growth: +13k jobs in 10 years
>minimum education: master's degree

>mechanical engineering
>https://www.bls.gov/ooh/architecture-and-engineering/mechanical-engineers.htm
>pay: 87k
>jobs: 288k
>growth: +25k jobs in 10 years
>minimum education: bachelors degree

So in other words in order for a stastician to earn the same as a BS in ME they'd need a masters degree.
I'm not even going into EE which has an average salary of $100k and 300k+ jobs.
If you need a masters to compete with a BS then its obvious which is the better degree.

Anonymous Mon Aug 12 05:22:41 2019 No.10881972

>>10881965
>Stop equating software development to Computer Science.
*MS
I'm just getting the information from the government site
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/computer-and-information-research-scientists.htm

>>10881920
Yeah but those are undergrad students not grad students. The jobs he's talking about are for grads and most of those students you saw won't be getting graduate degree's. Undergrads in CS can go into software engineering, database, networks, etc.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 12 05:28:23 2019 No.10881979 >>10881968 You aren't making $87,000 in your first year as a Mechanical Engineer BS. $60,000 is closer, and after taxes, you have about $45,000, so less than $4,000 each month while working 45-50 hours per week.

Anonymous Mon Aug 12 05:35:40 2019 No.10881989

>>10881979
Well obviously but the same applies to statisticians.
The point is the average pay is about the same while engineers require less education and have more job opportunities. Not just that but an engineering would start their career two years earlier than a statistician and in that time accumulate more wealth.

But you are right that overtime is more common for engineers so you could argue the stats guys have comfier less stressful jobs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 12 05:38:00 2019 No.10881990 Won't average pay be heavily influenced by where the bulk of jobs are. If say MEs were only found in SF they'd have high wages but also higher cost of living.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 12 05:41:50 2019 No.10881996 >>10881990 Yes and?

Anonymous Mon Aug 12 05:48:16 2019 No.10882002

>>10881989
>Well obviously but the same applies to statisticians
I could also say that Statisticians require debt from earning their Masters degree and 1-2 years of lost earnings, so they're in similar financial situations. The Statistician job is definitely less stressful, though.
>>10881990
We can account for this using the BLS data for local purchasing power, but it is not significant. Their spreadsheet for this is very large, and it is accounted for everywhere anyway.

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