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10822162 No.10822162 [Reply] [Original]

Scientifically speaking, how bad is it for your health to fall for the Nikola Tesla meme?

>> No.10822267

>>10822162
Bruh this image shatters my worldview. Thanks brother, now I get to rebuild from the shambles. BRB buying a diesel truck.

>> No.10822279

I love how /sci/ keeps pretending it's superior to r/science when research-related discussions here only ever get replies when they're disguised /pol/ baits.

>> No.10822321

>>10822162
Tesla's early work was worth while for his time as an electrical engineer and inventor. But as he aged, it's clear that his mind was degenerating. The same could be said about Newton and Einstein.

Newton
- Pressed sticks to his eye ball
- went on a quest to search for the philosophers stone

Einstein
- When searching for a united field theory

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wow i just found this shill's book, teslabrain confirmed

https://ia802502.us.archive.org/31/items/magnetism1small/magnetism1small.pdf

>> No.10823078

Tesla invented the 3 phase ac induction motor/ generator. he helped pioneer radio too. other than that he made pretty retarded claims. those 2 contributions are very important but hes overrated for the most part.

>> No.10823104

>>10822162
>implying stars aren't conscious beings

>> No.10823116

>>10823104
i know, it's hard to believe that teslabrains are this retarded, but i shit you not:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFhsObpja8A

>> No.10823125

>>10823116
self-conscious mybe?
doesn't like when you look at it, that's for sure

>> No.10823134

>brain implant takes over and bypasses all interfacing brain cells
>turn into a cyber-zombie, but you're still alive in there, it's just that you have no control over your body and no ability to see, hear anything or communicate in any way with the exterior world
>your body is still moving and to everyone else you look alive

Gee, there's nothing to worry about, anon! It's a simple procedure!

>> No.10823147

>>10823134
wat

>> No.10823150

>>10823116
Maybe not conscious, but they could be alive at some sence.

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>>10823078
unfortunatelly tesla has become THE poster child of the schizos.

>> No.10823168

>>10822162
This is like the least applicable meme

>> No.10823171

>>10822162
This pictures hurts my brain
>>10822321
Wait wtf Newton is mental af, also would Einstein search be degenerate?

>> No.10823175

>>10823163
Yeah, that would be expected.
>mad genius inventor
>makes crazy claims most of his life
>documents confiscated by the government

>> No.10823188

music video for this bread:
https://youtu.be/BgCmotgySdU

>> No.10823355

>>10823116
>implying i was sarcastic

>> No.10823361

>>10823171
> also would Einstein search be degenerate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_field_theory#History

Yeah, in his later years he went on a while goose chase trying to unify gravity with EM by adding extra curled up dimensions. And he did this when the whole world had already moved on knowing that a classical unified field theory was very unlikely to exist.

>> No.10823399

>>10823355
first question: so why do you believe stars are conscious. second question: it’s because you fell for the nikola tesla meme, right?

>> No.10823570

>>10822162
His turbines were pretty rad.

>> No.10823582

>>10823570
they are shit, no torque, joke efficiency

>> No.10823724

>>10822162
>Someone made this
>from a device that uses electricity

Let that sink in for a moment.

>> No.10823738

>>10823724
can i remind you that normal physics accepts that electromagnetism exists in addition to gravity and nuclear forces, but electric universe retards deny that gravity and nuclear forces also exist

>> No.10823758

>>10823738
>can i remind you that normal physics accepts that electromagnetism exists in addition to gravity and nuclear forces
Well of course they "accept them", they're the ones that made up the descriptions of them.

>but electric universe retards deny that gravity and nuclear forces also exist

Which eu retards? All of them? Are they denying them because they don't have a logical explanation?

>> No.10823776

>>10822162
One can admire Tesla’s scientific accomplishments while at the same time dismissing his crackpot ideas. It’s not a black and white thing.

>> No.10823779

>>10823582
They're good for organic rankine cycles

>> No.10823784

>>10823758
i mean, the basic concept of electric universe goes back, historically, to when a certain set of real physicists thought that all physics could be reduced to maxwell’s laws. they all shilled for the ether and other stuff like vortex theory.

it turned out that empirically they were wrong; other forces exist too and that was confirmed empirically.

electric universe shills basically are idiots who have some prejudice against relativity and want to hang onto the ether for some reason, and since they have no real basis in real physics, they propagate it via shilling and memes that prey on brainless since nobody who knows their shit would be duped into going back to believing in the aether like weirdo Tesla did

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>>10822279
>believing anything on 4chin or plebbit is legitimate

>> No.10824075

>>10822162
Even worse than falling for Elon Musks bullshit lies.

>> No.10824132

>>10822162
this is nothing but an attack on his character, everyone knows he was a bit crazy, but he was a crazy genius, and honestly i like him in the he was

>>10823724
yeah fucking cringe

>> No.10824138

some chinese fag and I walk into a bank. I request the fags balance from the teller, she does an ID check. The teller then informs me that there is no money in the account. I request to see the balance. 61 million dollars. Confused, I show this printed balance to the teller. She refutes the claim stating that all of the money in the account is invalid.
>please explain
>you see, money is only valid for the split second in which it is exchanged in a transaction.

>> No.10824146

>>10822321
Searching for a unified field theory is not crazy, its natural given the small number of fields and their similarities

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>>10822162
>Scientifically speaking, how bad is it for your health to fall for the Nikola Tesla meme?
Falling for the Tesla meme results in ignorance of the greater danger posed by AC sources (Edison was right), leading to carelessness around AC sources, and ultimately to serious injury or death from them.
E.g.:
>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8306036
>Yes, you should always be careful. But DC is most definitely more dangerous at the same voltage once you get over 48 V DC... Being shocked by neither is good. But the choice between 200V DC and 200V AC is a fairly easy one for me
This brainlet actually believes the "DC pulls you in, AC lets you let go" (due to crossing 0 twice per cycle) meme.
He's unaware that AC also has a "no let go" threshold current, and that it's much lower than the DC threshold current.
The Tesla meme gets people killed.

>> No.10824600 [DELETED] 

>>10824595
That guy is a prolific domain name squatter, and also a HN mod.

>> No.10824603

>>10824595
BTW, that guy is actually a HN mod, and also a prolific domain name squatter.

>> No.10824610

>hurdur geniuses after scientific discoveries venture into mystical, spiritual , undefined territory which my brainlet self cant comprehend and doesnt like so they must be insane ,its all degeneration with age ,hurdur the op

>> No.10824651

>>10822721
You can tell he's smart because he has sleeve tattoos on both arms and is into photography.

>> No.10824657

>>10822162
I understand your approach to uncountable, but problem is that it happened again later.

It's not a meme, but nobody wants instagib war.

>> No.10824706

>>10823150
if you can't even spell sense maybe don't post on a science board lad you also don't know the difference between at and in

>> No.10824994
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>Anon, the very principle of the ‘photon’, same as the ‘electron’ is pure rubbish. The false reification of light as “self-inductive” E and M components cannot exist, and is not the nature of light or electromagnetism in general. The co-axial nature of light at which EM conjugates thru the dielectric carrier is the correct geometry of ‘electromagnetism’. The glow in the darks needed to suppress this knowledge, because Tesla invented a death ray and a device to communicate with the dead, so they covered it up and fabricated the photoelectric effect results so they would give fraud Einstein a (((Nobel Prize))) as a psyop. All we need to do is to perform an experiment where hundreds of people pray to the sun and ask it to make a particular pattern of solar flares we could see as confirmation that it listens to us, but of course the corrupt scientific cabal in (((academia))) won't allow us to perform an experiment like that, because they only support research that costs lots of money, and we'd easily debunk their whole "sun isn't conscious" nonsense much more cheaply than their CGI space probes.

>Obviously you should trust me, I have an associate's in computer science from University of Phoenix, that's why I have 140,000 youtube subscribers, and I don't let the psychologists give me their brainwashing pills.

>> No.10825366

>>10822162
do I even want to know if naughty-pigeons.com is a real website?

>> No.10827391

>>10825366
it’s not, i made it up a few months ago when replying to a Nikola Tesla thread with the typical reddit cancer tesla memes.

anyhow i’m gonna make a meme tonight of the Garybrain if nobody beats me to it

>> No.10827437

>>10822279
Fuck off back to redd*t then.

>> No.10827614

>>10823175
>documents confiscated
Maybe if government doesn't want people to act like schitzos it shouldn't act like a paranoid schitzo first

>> No.10827770

>>10822162
forget to add STEM degree from Berkeley

>> No.10828510 [DELETED] 

>>10822279
hahaha i just found the subreddit for berzerkfags and teslabrains:
r/holofractal
tesla is pseudville confirmed

>> No.10828511

>>10822279
hahaha i just found the subreddit for berzerkfags and teslabrains:
r/holofractal
reddit is pseudville confirmed

>> No.10828521

>>10822279
In all seriousness, your best bet is to just get on twitter and follow researchers who do actual work.

>> No.10828524

>>10822321
What? If you revolutionized our physical understanding of the world you'd have the balls to attempt a unified theory as well

>> No.10828525

>>10828511
>berzerkfags
theres only one and hes all alone. hes going to die alone as well

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>>10828525
yeah, i know there is that one berzerkfag with his retarded "do I answer every question with a question?" rhetoric and thinly veiled electric universe crap, but looking at this r/holofractal shit i am seeing there is a new pseud i just learned about, named Nassim Haramein, who also happens to be a teslabrain (surprise!, pic related) that seems to be popular (he is mentioned in the sticky on r/holofractal) with some hologram fractal shit. of course with associated deepak chopra "muh quantum consciousness" shit. i bet that's where berzerkfag got it from, sounds just like when he went on his fractal hologram schizorant...

anyhow, just shows you how reddit turns people into pseud schizos

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>>10828542
PS: pasting classic berzerkfag schizorant

>> No.10828587

>>10822162
fucking lost it at naughty-pigeons.com lul goddamn it kek

>> No.10828607

is this the 5G tranny cope thread where you lick your wounds and front holes

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>>10828607
>is this the 5G tranny cope thread where you lick your wounds and front holes

>> No.10828613

>>10828610
>bro it requires a very high IQ to surgically mutilate your genitalia

>> No.10828630
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>>10828613
>clamped, vaccinated, circumcised, based, redpilled, and (((o n i o n s)))

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>>10828511
>thinking I would stoop so low to browse Reddit
Nah
>>10828525
>theres only one and hes all alone.
>hes going to die alone
Are you saying that you're so weak that you can't imagine this happening to you? Do you think that there's some kind of special place for you just because you agree with more people and have others agree with you? That there's some kind of transcendence to be had from that? Lol no, that's how stupid herded sheep and Shepard are made. I refuse to be Shepard or sheep, both jobs are a waste of time and energy. In the end we're all future lubricant for the crust.
>>10828542
I don't know who this person is. Also I have never used the word "quantum" without making fun of it because there is absolutely no quantity to the universe.
>>10828547
>so this is what it feels like to live rent free
Honestly thanks for posting this, you're saving me lots of time. Saved.

>> No.10828679

>>10828667
ah hah, there he is. care to give us your equation of the fractal hologram universe?

wait let me guess
>[insert irrelevant question here]?

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>>10828679
>equation for self-similarity

>> No.10828744

>>10828739
uh, did you forget to post the actual equation or something?

oh let me guess
>[insert irrelevant dodge again]

>> No.10828784

>>10828739
still waiting for that equation berzerkfag

>> No.10828899

>>10828744
>>10828784
>uh, did you forget to post the actual equation or something?
Right I understand the question you asked, but do you understand the question you asked? What do you mean by "fractal"? I've never used such a term.
Second:
>Equation for the absence of light, which necessitates the operation of a hologram.
Impossible. If it doesn't exist how can you describe it with an equation?
>no I want an equation for the universe!
Maybe the term you're looking for is "expression".

>> No.10828988

>>10828899
>I've never used such a term.
you used the term “self-similar” which is basically the definition of a fractal

>>Equation for the absence of light, which necessitates the operation of a hologram.
>Impossible. If it doesn't exist how can you describe it with an equation?
not an equation for “the absence of light” an equation for your self-similar theory of the universe. all “theories” in physics are described using equations
>Maybe the term you're looking for is "expression".
no, i don’t want some word salad with zero quantitative content. much less predictions. you claim to have a theory for the universe, so that means something you could calculate something with and compare to evidence. do you have that?

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>>10828988
>you used the term “self-similar” which is basically the definition of a fractal
As long as we're clear that it's your words not mine then whatever. Equate it to what you want. Speaking of "equating" how do you equate something to "the universe"?

>all “theories” in physics are described using equations
Which is part of the problem. What is there to "equate" to the universe? It's an absurd concept really.

>no, i don’t want some word salad with zero quantitative content. much less predictions. you claim to have a theory for the universe, so that means something you could calculate something with and compare to evidence. do you have that?
How can one posses the universe? Illogical. This is why you cannot understand what it is specifically. Hence there is no equation for the universe because there is nothing else to equate it to. It's an expression. It is "the universe"

>> No.10829079

>>10829048
okay so fine. you have no quantitative predictions because i guess you argue math is a meme and mathematical theories of physics are fake news? cool, so based and redpilled, good luck with that.

anyhow, i’d like to hear your purely verbal theory of everything. go ahead, i’m all ears. all i know so far is that i’m a hologram and that the universe is a self similar (but hurt durr not fractal) hologram, but i don’t know anything beyond that. like i’d be curious: what is dark matter? what explains the acceleration of the universe’s expansion ? why does matter dominate over antimatter? or is that all just fake news?

>> No.10829084

>>10828667
>Are you saying that you're so weak that you can't imagine this happening to you?
No I'm saying it's a sure thing for you, and a mere possibility for me. I don't get off being a smug contrarian dipshit

>> No.10829115

>>10829084
>I don't get off being a smug contrarian dipshit
I'm just bored really.

>>10829079
>okay so fine. you have no quantitative predictions because i guess you argue math is a meme and mathematical theories of physics are fake news? cool, so based and redpilled, good luck with that.
If the universe were a quantity then it would be just that. A quantity. Like counting a pencil on the table yet the pencil never does anything. Why? Because it's "the quantity pencil". Well that's fantastic. You have "pencil". Doesn't really make the pencil do anything nor explain what it's used for does it?

>what is dark matter?
Lol, you tell me. In fact I'd like someone to actually logically explain how it could exist for starters. It's made up, I'm not wasting my time explaining an imaginary substance/non substance.

>what explains the acceleration of the universe’s expansion ?
What would the universe "expand into"? Something other than the universe? This is another problem with cancerous thought experiments with no basis in reality.

>why does matter dominate over antimatter?
You cannot reify an absence of something. "Antimatter" is another made up theoretical concept. It is not the input nor output of any experiment.

>or is that all just fake news?
I mean, given that there's no proof of it yeah. At least self-similarity is empirical.

>> No.10829143

>>10829115
>hurr durr antimatter is fake news
you realize positrons were discovered like 8 decades ago, right?

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>>10829143

>particles being the input/output of any experiment
>this effect is a totally discrete thing because it reacted in a slightly different manner to a magnetic field.

Every fucking time. Like calling each sprinkle on a donut a discrete different just because they're slightly a different size. Take them the fuck off and you still have the goddamn donut.

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>>10829180
good argument bro, super informed on the concepts. sprinkles, so based and redpilled. photographic evidence from 1933 (pic related) is CGI or something, total fake news, therefore holographic self-similar verbal non-mathematical theory of the universe wins, so redpilled

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>>10829187
>a privation exists

>> No.10829236

>>10829232
only berzerkfag used the 1870's term "privation". not me. i had to look that shit up because in physics nobody used that term since like the german dudes who denied relativity in the 1930's, you know because they loved the aether or something.

do you have an argument?

>> No.10829256

>>10829236
>do you have an argument?
What are you arguing? You name dropped me and argued semantics about noun. An example of a privation would be a shadow. Saying a shadow "exists" is completely wrong. The illusion of it being phenomenal is solely based on that which gives it that illusion (The amount of light). You cannot determine what a shadow "is" because "it is not". A privation.

Or being poor. The absence of money. "No money" or "poverty" is a privation of "money" or "wealth", something that is phenomenal (at least if we're talking about something with tangible value such as gold).

>> No.10829272

>>10829256
let’s say i have 1000 dollars in my bank account, but then i charge my bank account 1000 dollars to buy a 1000 dollar bottle of electric universe yard repellant. does my bank account thus cease to exist ontologically because 0 can’t exist?

let’s say the same thing about taking a 1000kg weight off a scale. does the scale segfault the universe because “nothing on the scale” is somehow not allowed?

let’s say i have a couch in my room, but i take the couch out. is what is left in the couch’s space suddenly subtracted from my room’s square footage? or if the building were demolished?

your argument is like a semantic version of using Xeno’s paradox to argue against how hercules could pass a tortoise. it is just retarded with some word games to make it deceive brainlets

>> No.10829276

>>10829272
“electric universetard not “electric universe yard”

>> No.10829288

>>10829272
>let’s say i have 1000 dollars in my bank account, but then i charge my bank account 1000 dollars to buy a 1000 dollar bottle of electric universe yard repellant. does my bank account thus cease to exist ontologically because 0 can’t exist?

You're comparing the human concept of "value" to how the universe works which is a massive false equivalency.

>let’s say the same thing about taking a 1000kg weight off a scale. does the scale segfault the universe because “nothing on the scale” is somehow not allowed?

The scale still exists though. What defined the weight to begin with? You need another mass to rationally compel it to express said weight. What does any object "weight" in the middle of space where there is no other mass to influence it?
>It can only influence its own weight.
And so it negates itself by having no other comparison and sublimates as the vacuum reduces it back into inertia.Sorry if that sounds too metaphysical.

>your argument is like a semantic version of using Xeno’s paradox to argue against how hercules could pass a tortoise. it is just retarded with some word games to make it deceive brainlets.
Why is the average computer chip able to do more processes yet become smaller and smaller as the years pass?
Why does does blue end spectrum EM have more energy than red?

>> No.10829293

>>10829288
so you ignored the question about the couch and the space it inhabits. clever. care to reply to that one?

>> No.10829310 [DELETED] 

>>10829288
anyhow, in the meantime, since you will for sure stall for a long time before replying to the couch question, maybe i’ll reply to some of the other sophistry you posted. more than enough time for someone who isn’t going back to their shill websites to crib their arguments from

>hurr durr mass cant exist without another mass
just break the initial mass into two parts and compare those. tor build a scale out of one part to weigh the other part or weigh two broken halves of the other part. your argument obviously is in some dream world where your idealized masses have nothing to do with real objects, since obviously in real life most things could be broken apart to make a simple balance using a fulcrum

>Why is the average computer chip able to do more processes yet become smaller and smaller as the years pass?
because engineers are smart and they have better and better tooling for making things and until recently, smaller meant faster, since the electrons in the electronics can only move so fast, and making electronics cut down on travel time. actually, though, we are at or close to hitting a limit there, as evidenced by the trend toward adding more cores and memory and offloading computation tasks to e.g. GPUs or other coprocessors

Why does does blue end spectrum EM have more energy than red?
simple, the Einstein-Planck relation. E=h*nu

hope you’re having fun searching the EU database for more canned shill responses

>> No.10829317

>>10829288
anyhow, in the meantime, since you will for sure stall for a long time before replying to the couch question, maybe i’ll reply to some of the other sophistry you posted. more than enough time for someone who isn’t going back to their shill websites to crib their arguments from

>hurr durr mass cant exist without another mass
just break the initial mass into two parts and compare those. or build a scale out of one part to weigh the other part, or weigh two broken halves of the other part on the first part. your argument obviously exists in some dream world where your idealized masses have nothing to do with real objects, since obviously in real life most things could be broken apart to make a simple balance using a fulcrum

>Why is the average computer chip able to do more processes yet become smaller and smaller as the years pass?
because engineers are smart and they have better and better tooling for making things snaller, and until recently, smaller meant faster, since the electrons in the electronics can only move so fast, . and making electronics smaller cut down on travel time. actually, though, we are at or close to hitting a limit there, as evidenced by the trend toward adding more cores and memory and offloading computation tasks to e.g. GPUs or other coprocessors

>Why does does blue end spectrum EM have more energy than red?
simple, the Einstein-Planck relation. E=h*nu

hope you’re having fun searching the EU database for more canned shill responses

>> No.10829323

>>10829115
>"Antimatter" is another made up theoretical concept
Jesus Christ is there anything this board is good for?

>> No.10829339

>>10829293
ugh.

>let’s say i have a couch in my room, but i take the couch out. is what is left in the couch’s space suddenly subtracted from my room’s square footage? or if the building were demolished?

Why are you only accounting for sq. footage? There's this thing called "Volume" and yes, the fucking couch displaces the volume. I didn't want to answer it because it seemed so obvious to anyone who isn't a brainlet. It's a loaded question really.

>>10829310

>just break the initial mass into two parts and compare those.
Yeah exactly, the mass negates itself. It is no longer one mass. You just restated the premise.

>smaller meant faster, since the electrons in the electronics can only move so fast, and making electronics cut down on travel time
>simple, the Einstein-Planck relation. E=h*nu
So
>the smaller the space
>the higher the capacitance

It's almost like if you disregard and eliminate what has no meaning or properties (space), then things become more prone to impel each other. Who would have thought that:

>If you make things the same
>they'll act the same way
>which space can't do or be be because it has no properties that would give it "sameness"

>> No.10829355

>>10829339
>There's this thing called "Volume"
ah hah, i just made you admit that space exists. checkmate.

>Yeah exactly, the mass negates itself. It is no longer one mass.
breaking a mass in half does not “negate” anything. the same broken mass will still register a consistent measurement on the balance i demonstrated you could construct. you could even break the mass you measured in half again, do the same with the other half, and alas the two would sum to the original mass. nothing is negated.

your use of words is very contradictory to how reality works empirically. either that or simply intentionally deceptive or mis-informative

you have been BTFO anon, sorry

>> No.10829363

>>10829355
well, my description of how if you weig a mass, then break it in two pieces and weigh both pieces was worded a little badly. but you get my point. the balance would measure that the two broken pieces sum to the original whole. hopefully your mincing words rhetoric isn’t anal enough not to get this point

>> No.10829392

>>10829355
>ah hah, i just made you admit that space exists. checkmate.
Space of what?

>breaking a mass in half does not “negate” anything
It negates the one mass you imbecile. "One" mass is now "two", it is not longer one. It has been negated. Now both will gravitate towards each other and implode upon itself until it runs out of energy, or it will keep breaking and losing pieces from centrifugal force. In the end it will negate itself.
Kind of like how the planet will die, or the sun will explode, or your heart will stop perturbing and you'll stop making pointless examples.

>you could even break the mass you measured in half again, do the same with the other half, and alas the two would sum to the original mass. nothing is negated.
>If you spit a crystal or a magnet into parts it will act the exact same as when they were coherently working as one object.
No, it doesn't work like that. If there were nothing holding the object in a "gravitational field", no motion from a sun or em, the object would sublimate. What defined it in the first place was those things, now they are gone. All it has left is it's own coherency to depend on, once it's exhausted then it ceases "being that thing".

>you have been BTFO anon, sorry
Only smarmy newfags claim they "BTFO" people with their own posts and not other posters "BTFOing" other posters. It's the up vote culture perhaps?

>>10829363
>the balance would measure that the two broken pieces sum to the original whole
What whole? It's no longer a "whole" dummy.

>> No.10829401

>>10829392
>Space of what?
oh, answering a question with another question. you said that a couch moved out of a region will leave an empty volume it once inhabited. so it's the space of where things can be or move through, like couches being there or moving out or into there. couches, or the fiber and foam they're made out of, or electrons, protons, neutrons, etc can move thorugh this space. it's not a hard concept unless you are a fucking douchebag who insists on using sophistry to push electric universe pseudoscience by mincing words and answering every question with a question

>Now both will gravitate towards each other and implode upon itself until it runs out of energy,
oh, so if i take a pencil and break it in half, that causes some sort of imposion? you sure?

> the object would sublimate.
oh so if i rip a piece of paper in half it's going to sublimate spontaneously into a gas? like a piece of dry ice turning to CO2 vapor? you sure about that?

you are just spitting out absolutely false words at this point, they are completely just against average-joe common sense. a 5 year old can break a pencil without causing an explosion, anon, newsflash. i think you have lost touch with reality.

>> No.10829422

>>10829401
.......and now another very long pause while berserkfag reads up on his Electric Universe sites about the most effective sophistry to employ for his next retarded argument...
i’ll be waiting anon. you know, science isn’t that hard and the fact you’ve enjoyed free reign here is pretty sad

>> No.10829439

>>10829401
>oh, answering a question with another question. you said that a couch moved out of a region will leave an empty volume it once inhabited. so it's the space of where things can be or move through, like couches being there or moving out or into there. couches, or the fiber and foam they're made out of, or electrons, protons, neutrons, etc can move thorugh this space. it's not a hard concept unless you are a fucking douchebag who insists on using sophistry to push electric universe pseudoscience by mincing words and answering every question with a question

"volume" implying medium. You have displaced the medium with "couch". You have "couch" and "absence of couch", in this case it would be air and the container of your apartment.

>oh, so if i take a pencil and break it in half, that causes some sort of imposion? you sure?
If there is nothing else to impede it/ cause resistance then potentially.

>oh so if i rip a piece of paper in half it's going to sublimate spontaneously into a gas? like a piece of dry ice turning to CO2 vapor? you sure about that?

Why don't you explain to me why dry ice turns into CO2 vapor. Then apply the same concept to paper.
>why is dry ice not compatible with 70 percent nitrogen and sublimates into gas?

>Let me put this phenomenal thing in the absence of phenomenal things to see what happens
>where did it go?

It became absent. Off it went! Goodbye. Really though goodnight, I'll continue tomorrow if you want.

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>>10829439
oh okay so my couch couldn’t exist in vacuum? you sure? and a paper broken in vacuum would cause an implosion if not for, like, my desk and desk chair? you sure?

oh wait now you argue they would sublimate like dry ice CO2 crystals? which one is it?

just to answer these rhetorical questions in a sane war, instead of just pointing out how idiotic you are, the answer is no. breaking pencils does not cause an implosion” is you do it in vacuum. like space or a very depressurized chamber on earth. it turns out that, (surprise!) physics works! even in higher vacuums than what exists in space, yes, that’s been done.

this, and all your other posts, are absolute pseud garbage that belongs on reddit, not here. go back to r/holofractal where you are entitled to whatever bullshit crap you feel like saying; it’s not so here. at least this anon would like people to say things that aren’t empirically and objectively false

>> No.10829466

>>10829439
oh okay so my couch couldn’t exist in vacuum? you sure? and a paper ripped in vacuum would cause an implosion if not for, like, the presence of my desk and desk chair? you sure?

oh wait now you argue they would sublimate like dry ice CO2 crystals? which one is it?

just to answer these rhetorical questions in a sane way, instead of just pointing out how idiotic you are, the answer is no. breaking pencils does not cause an implosion if you do it in vacuum. like in space or a very depressurized chamber on earth. it turns out that, (surprise!) physics works! it even works in higher vacuums than what exists in space. yes, that’s been done.

this, and all your other posts, are absolute pseud garbage that belongs on reddit, not here. go back to r/holofractal where you are entitled to whatever bullshit crap you feel like saying; it’s not so here. at least this anon would like people to say things that aren’t empirically and objectively false

>> No.10829526

I think the "how bad is x for your health" Is starting to replace "what is the evolutionary advantage of x" as the most cancerous /sci/ bait.

>> No.10829573
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>>10829526
hehe, true.

>> No.10829590

>>10829323
Not anymore. Do yourself a favor and leave. I know I am.

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>>10829590
au revoir mon ami thank you for visiting

>> No.10830061

>>10827614
it's obvious that government officials fell for a tesla meme too, it isn't really big revelation that the ones who give orders are not always the brightest minds.

>> No.10830068

>>10829526
what is the evolutionary advantage of tesla meme

>> No.10830312

>>10822721
I hate how smug and condescending this guy is in every single video, while spouting complete pseudoscience.

>>10829526
What's the evolutionary advantage of janitoring anonymous imageboards for free?

>> No.10830357

>>10829466
>oh okay so my couch couldn’t exist in vacuum? you sure? and a paper ripped in vacuum would cause an implosion if not for, like, the presence of my desk and desk chair? you sure?
Yes. Take anything and put it in "the absence of that thing" and surprisingly enough the object will negate itself.

>oh wait now you argue they would sublimate like dry ice CO2 crystals? which one is it?
Whatever creates the absence of that thing. Any solid can sublimate, paper being a solid would sublimate.
>Wait what? Putting something in the absence of motion affects it's phase?
Surprising I know.

>breaking pencils does not cause an implosion if you do it in vacuum. like in space or a very depressurized chamber on earth
So gravity must not exist then since obviously the pieces won't accelerate towards each other. It would be the first instance of this happening in space, but I guess your ideas precede logic.

>like in space or a very depressurized chamber on earth. it turns out that, (surprise!) physics works! it even works in higher vacuums than what exists in space. yes, that’s been done.

>No in fact things do exist in nothingness
>There they are
>in nothing
Really? So what is defining them? Themselves? Absurd.

Literally makes no sense. The rest of you whining is sad to listen to because you're just goalposting "vacuum". I am talking about literally the absence of everything else but the pencil. The energy is gonna go somewhere else, it's not going to stay with the pencil.
It's like putting alka-seltzer in a glass of water and watching it dissolve. It's still "there in the water", but it's no longer a fucking tablet now is it?

>at least this anon would like people to say things that aren’t empirically and objectively false
Subject is not an object of investigation to be known. Subject precedes the object of negation and through objective negation one will arrive at subjective synthesis

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i lost you in the word salad. the only thing i can detect here is that you claim ripping a piece of paper in half will cause it to sublimate. and that if i take a couch out of my room, then that creates some sort of anti-couch that would spontaneously fuse with any couch in the vicinity to cause an implosion. hmmmmmm. that plus a bunch of nonscientific gibberish. thanks brah, you're smart and not schizophrenic

>> No.10830517

>>10830510
was meant for berzerkfag >>10830357

>> No.10830520

>>10829232
kenpilled and reified

>> No.10830538

>>10822162
>convinced nuclear weapons aren't real
Wut?

>> No.10830544

>>10830538
teslabrain electric universers don't believe in the atomic nucleus or nuclear power or nuclear weapons. they think the manhattan project was some CIA coverup fake news, and instead hiroshima and nagasaki were tesla's death ray "that totally exists"

>> No.10830554

>>10830544
>electric universers
Oh right I forgot about that breed of idiot. Thanks for reminding me.

>> No.10830556

>>10830517
I never said anything of the sort. You're now just putting words in my mouth and substituting my explanations with your own interpretations and then claiming I made those now altered statements. Which is what an actual schizophrenic person does. I know you're not schizophrenic though, you're just acting like a smarmy cunt because...well I don't know why actually. Because you hate me? Well I don't care that you hate me, you'll get no more (you)'s until you actually make a counter argument to what I said.

>> No.10830557

>>10822162
What's the pigeon thing about

>> No.10830567

>>10830544
>Teslabrain electric universers don't believe in the atomic nucleus or nuclear power or nuclear weapons.
Or maybe some of us believe that those phenomena are simply electromagnetic phenomena. The effects are empirical but the explanation is lacking.

>they think the manhattan project was some CIA coverup fake news, and instead hiroshima and nagasaki were tesla's death ray "that totally exists"
Like, maybe a few on /x/ believe that. Also "deathray" was just "teleforce" or the wireless transmission method. "Deathray" is literally fake news invented by none other than the New York Times.

>> No.10830580

>>10830557
One furfag on /sci/ memes Tesla's "love" for a pigeon. Probably because he's never had an actual pet to express emotion to(past fucking them that is) and has cancerous bestiality thoughts constantly in his head because of the fetish he's involved in.

>> No.10830591

>>10830580
ew

>> No.10830597

>>10830580
>I loved that pigeon as a man loves a woman, and she loved me.
--Nikola Tesla

>> No.10830611

>>10830597
Based and birdpilled.

>> No.10830874

>>10830597
>fucking is love

Dumb materialist, yeah I'm sure that ethot "loves" you.

>>10830591
indeed

>> No.10830883

>>10822321
Newton is based

>> No.10830904

>>10830597
Maybe he was talking about that girl who was just a messenger and some banker told him...

>> No.10831943

>>10822279
KEK

every thread on /r/science is about anti-vax, or some absurd psychological study.

"researchers have found that introverts perform better in the workplace and are more interesting" + 100000

>> No.10832011

>>10822267
>he thinks it's about the car
Anon, I...

>> No.10832056

>>10831943
This, those crappy psychology/social sciences articles are always at the top. I don't care about humans and their shitty behaviours patterns, just show me stuff about the universe and shit.

>> No.10832073

Tesla was based and pigeon pilled

>> No.10833022

>>10822267
lmao retard

>> No.10833071

>>10830510
I'm not berzerkerfag and I'm the guy who made that thread. Mathematics not being a human invention doesn't imply electric universe is real, retard.

>> No.10833122

>>10833071
pic was unrelated (or more to show how arguing philosophy stuff is basically a pointless competition in calling others brainless) and i never argued in favor of electric universetardation

>> No.10833155

>>10828521
Get on Twitter so that I can get banned for giving out offensive statistics? Nah, Twitter is a cesspool of insanity.

>> No.10833156

>>10830068
MOAR TESLORS!

>> No.10833163

>>10830557
basically he realised many things about radio and had a great vision and plan but then he realised it was actually bad for humanity and went back to sending messages via pigeon.
the beauty of the simpleness of it all made him fall in loveee

>> No.10833165

>>10833163
Tesla was a furry?

>> No.10833307

teslabrain shills are newagers confirmed:
>>10833291

>> No.10835456

Why can't this board go 5 minutes without some specific flavour of pseud schizo shit taking the tourch over for several months at a time from the last one?
We've had electric universe retards, anti-vaxxers, flat-earthers, thermodynamics deniers (i.e. anti-global warming), consciousness/qualia fags, ontological/quinque viae shills etc. etc.
It never FUCKING STOPS. Take your fucking shit to /x/.

>> No.10835473

>>10835456
>b-but electric universe is r-right because tesla and sleeve tattoo man said so
t. mods

>> No.10835548

>>10835456
I wonder what's next. Crystal woo?

>> No.10835553

>>10835456
>consciousness/qualia
Except no one has satisfactorily answered the hard problem ever and Dennett is plainly full of shit to anyone who isn't so stubborn they'd rather accept absurd implications of their model than change it.

>> No.10835578

>>10822162
>naughty-pigeons.com
Holy fuck lost my shit.

>> No.10835618

>>10835548
Some orgone crystals would be a nice break at this point.

>>10835553
Case in point.
Look at the top of the fucking board, pseud. What does it say?
Is it science (derived, using the scientific method)?
Is it math?
Oh, it's neither, Then fuck off.
The "hard problem" is literally a philosophical mysticism wank, comparable in retardation and mental gymnastics needed to flat earth or theology, and rightly belongs on /x/ with the rest of the schizophreniac mental void spawn.

>> No.10835624

>>10835618
based real /sci/entist anon. thanks for the refreshing anti-schizo/pseud post

>> No.10835629

>>10835618
>Some orgone crystals would be a nice break at this point.
I can probably go drinking one weekend while watching Spirit Science and then come back with so much crystal stuff that it can make all the geologists on this board rock hard.

>> No.10835734

>>10835618
And what pray tell is the scientific method? People claim it's Popperian falsificationism but in practice scientists take theoretical leaps to create predictive models of things that are for the immediate present unfalsifiable all the time, one of the biggest ongoing projects in Physics, M-Theory falls directly into this category but it's not derided as Philosophy by anyone but the aggressively ignorant.
>Oh, it's neither, Then fuck off.
It falls into Philosophy, which you literally cannot do science without doing. Specifically it's an ontological question. You're not circumventing ontology or philosophy here, you're just disagreeing with mine.
>The "hard problem" is literally a philosophical mysticism wank,
Then face up to it without deluding yourself into the "consciousness doesn't exist" nonsense. Show how you can find consciousness as an emergent property of brain functions. Nobody has been successful in doing this so far, because it's like saying by thinking hard enough a number will become a colour. They're categorically different things.

>> No.10836407

>>10835734
nobody thinks "consciousness doesn't exist" in making this argument. it's just that people who finished an undergrad degree in science feel it's one of those "is my green the same as your red?" arguments that is completely stupid to worry about, since philosophers can spend literally 500 years arguing about it without it going anywhere. can you measure it? no? then why not do some actual work so that eventually we might be able to measure it? that's too hard? well do some fucking real work then instead of blathering on

we all agree that sick drops in dubstep exist, and they're way better than lame drops. can you measure the lameness of drops in dubstep? no? well then that's not science or math. we all agree that leonardo was a great painter. can you predict that from a quantum field theoretic model? no? then do some fucking real work instead of writing books on muh qualia

>> No.10836426

>>10833155
posting ooc statistics makes you the retard, anon

>> No.10837425

>>10823147
Nikola Tesla -> Tesla Motors -> Elon Musk -> Neuralink = Rage