/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.10785338]

Is this true?

[Anonymous No.10785343]

>>10785338
Yes. Very stupid people listen to very smart people. It's convincing midwits that is the problem. They almost always refuse to yield.

[Anonymous No.10785754]

>>10785343
makes sense, but how can you tell if someone is very smart or if they are just dumb and overconfident

[Anonymous No.10785773]

>>10785754
Perform an IQ test to more definite answer. Or you you use statistical mathematics to give you probable answers to you question (fuzzy logic).

[Anonymous No.10785785]

>>10785754
>>10785773
For example. If you knew someone's income and wealth, you can plug it into a correlation equation and solve for there EXPECTED IQ with a variance.

[Anonymous No.10785819]

>>10785785
you're saying you can distinguish someone with a 145 IQ from someone with a 120 IQ by looking at their income?

[Anonymous No.10785848]

>>10785819
Only with a a fair amount of error.

IQ can predict with a certain amount of error what kind of wealth or income a person has.

For example
Let say if you knew my IQ was 130. Then you can say, " given the data we have, we know that your expected yearly income should be expect around 80,000 USD with standard deviation of 20,000 USD". You can also flip it around. If you knew the income, you can guess the IQ.

[Anonymous No.10785889]

>>10785819
Not with 100% certainty. But if you had two sample groups; each with 1000 members. And you measured the average IQ of one group to be 145 and the other group to be 120, you can be very certain that the income of the 145 IQs would be more than the 120 IQs. Given that the environmental variables were the same.

[Anonymous No.10785923]

>>10785848
>>10785889
I mean I'm dumb and should defer to someone with IQ above 145.
But
Wouldn't you guys say that if you take any given rich guy, chances are his IQ is NOT above 145?

Sure he is rich so he has a higher chance of having an IQ above 145. But that is not the question

[Anonymous No.10785941]

>another IQ thread

[Anonymous No.10785952]

>>10785338
True in some regards, though having to inquery about the validity of it makes it all the more true.

[Anonymous No.10786041]

>>10785338
Sub 95 IQ is awful

[Anonymous No.10786055]

>>10785338
I have a feeling that whoever made is has an IQ below 95

[Anonymous No.10786060]

>>10786041
t. midwit

[Anonymous No.10786073]

>>10785848
That's a dumb example. My father has a stupid high IQ but it has rendered him so dysfunctional that he doesn't give a shit about money or taking care of himself. His only motivator is learning more through experimentation which takes up all the time and energy a normie would spend being a wage slave

[Anonymous No.10786077]

>>10786073
His example was fine. Your anecdote was dumb

[Anonymous No.10786080]

>>10786073
Your father does not invalidate the example.

[Anonymous No.10786149]

>>10785848
>>10785889

Don't listen to these two, yes the higher IQ has a higher chance of earning more IF you are utilizing very rigid/very linear comparisons. I'm talking specifically within the job field itself.

The fact is that in the sciences let alone the general job market the field/speciality you go into is what determines your income potential. You can have an IQ of 145 but if you are in Biology, Psychology, pure Physics or pure Mathematics. You will on average be paid less than a 120 IQ individual in most Engineering professions, Programing, Medicine or Actuarial work.

So no, looking at a person's income doesn't give you good insight in their potential IQ. Especially at such a high thresholds. They would be right if we were comparing average income potential for 70/95 IQ vs 120/145 IQ.

[Anonymous No.10786168]

>>10786149
Also consider the fact that there are baby boomers who can't rotate a PDF 90° making over $150K a year. IQ my ass...

[Anonymous No.10786175]

>>10786149
And you're right. If you look only at each individual and take into account of the environment that individual is in.

But I was looking at it in a more statistical way. Where if you focus on one individual....IQ CANNOT tell you how successful that person is. It only can tell relate AVERAGE wealth with AVERAGE IQ of a large group of individuals. If you know your IQ, you still know practically nothing about how well you'll actually do out in the world.

[Anonymous No.10786309]

>>10785338
Yes.

[Anonymous No.10786321]

>>10785773
>statistical mathematics
>(fuzzy logic)

[Anonymous No.10786827]

>>10785338
Exact opposite is true. IQ is like height. Too low you're just a brainlet, and too high you're just a big weirdo. You want to be at the mean of the bell curve.

[Anonymous No.10786847]

>>10785338
>Is this true?
it's a stupid bait image.

[Anonymous No.10788592]

>>10786149
is it more valid as a comparison within a field of work?

[Anonymous No.10788795]

>>10786827
This actually makes sense.

[Anonymous No.10788992]

>>10786827
this is true. I believe my high IQ is the sole reason for my misery. Every time I socialise with sub 110s I immediately feel the disconnect

[Anonymous No.10789021]

>>10785754
If you're super smart like me you can just tell who the other smarties are. Now listen up and do what I say! You're not a insubordinate midwit are you?!

[Anonymous No.10789066]

>>10785889
IQ has diminishing returns when it comes to income. After a certain threshold it becomes more of a hindrance, i.e. if you are bad at networking, which is quite important for income.

[Anonymous No.10789069]

>>10788992
1) make an effort to find peers and people more intelligent than you. Mensa was found for that reason, but there are others ways too 2) try to become open. You can learn something from everyone, just maybe not in logical thinking. But turns out, humans are more than computers on a protein basis.

[Anonymous No.10789070]

>>10789066
Midwits resent you if you're more intelligent than they are.

[Anonymous No.10789114]

>>10789021
The problem is, usually the other smarties are the ones trying to fuck you over. It's the dummies and useful idiots that you should be tight with

[Anonymous No.10789134]

If the idea is that height is enough to overcome an intellectual gap then it is silly.
I'm a tall guy and I've never felt any particular fraternity with other tall guys.

[Anonymous No.10789136]

I lose my shit at the 110 pepe everytime

[Anonymous No.10789139]

>>10789134
Based double digit poster.

[Anonymous No.10789153]

>>10785889
>>10785848
You could really skew things by adding marginal people such as hermits, societal non-conformists, the homeless, psych patients, those assumed to have mental illness, etc.

[Anonymous No.10789164]

>>10785819
a more realistic example around these parts would be, anon with 130iq has managed to talk his parents in to buying him more anime dolls than an anon with 110iq and is higher rank in online games, with more virtual capital.

[Anonymous No.10789167]

>>10789069
Thanks fren. I can get in a social 'hyper' social mode and make "friends" with everyone. But soon enough I revert to my old habits and detach from all of them.
Making close friends is the only way I have found to help, but I have made a sum total of 3 (i'm 26), and we're all separated by continents.

[Anonymous No.10789210]

>>10786073
still high enough income to spend time on his experiments, rather than being a wage slave. Or has managed to build a family to support him, while he can sit back and do what he wants.

[Anonymous No.10790771]

>>10785338
This applies perfectly to opinions on race by IQ, incidentally.

[Anonymous No.10790851]

>>10788992
yikes

[Anonymous No.10790912]

>>10785848
I make around 100k a year.
I have a bachelor's in CS and work a great database job with tons of benefits.
What's my IQ?

[Anonymous No.10790947]

>>10790912
midwit.

[Anonymous No.10791657]

>>10790912
>CS and work a great database job
yup, I'll give you an upper limit of 120