/med/

[Anonymous No.10733668]

"American healthcare" edition

Old threads:
>>10726947
>>10716028
>>10700533

We discuss research, offer advice (Just see your family physician), make fun of premeds, discuss residency and different specialties but we mostly shitpost.

If you want to discuss vaccines or clamping, please make your own thread because it takes a lot of replies and the discussion degenerates.

>What's the best specialty for research?
Path, clinical lab, onc, rad/onc, anesthesia

>What are the best specialties lifestyle wise?
Optho, derm, psych and rads

[Anonymous No.10733670]

Based americans.

[Anonymous No.10733686]

Starting with a greentext from today
>just finished ortho heading to lockers to change with a homie
>gypsy girl colapses on the ground
>relative make a huge fuss about it
>they can barely speak our native language
>secure her airways, check for breathing, circulation and consciousness
>find a stretcher and get her to the ER
>start an IV remove her clothes
>she's bleeding from her genitalia
>after a painfully difficult interview with her and the relatives manage to find out she was pregnant
>she's 14 btw
>doesn't have ID
>has only a ragged copy of a birth certificate
>can't even read her social security number
>at first they couldn't even explain she was bleeding we had to get blood on our hands to see
>get her to OB/GYN
>turns out she has aborted
>doc does an abrasion

Like holy fuck how do you work like this when you don't even have the basic information for a patient and they can't even explain what is going on with them? If this subhuman just said in the begining, I'm pregnant and I'm bleeding it would have been hella easier. Fuck this.

[Anonymous No.10733747]

>>10733686
You are playing with the cards you are delt with

[Anonymous No.10733749]

also
tfw no evidence based gf

[Anonymous No.10733752]

tfw no dental gf
tfw you will never get to fill her cavities

[Anonymous No.10733797]

Povestioara wholesome.

A fost acum câteva minute un puști de 5 ani la cabinet pentru un consult și ecografie. Nu știu dacă pediatra a făcut ceva magie sau copilul în sine era cuminte dar nu a plâns și chiar a cooperat foarte bine pentru cineva de vârsta lui. Pediatra ia stetoscopul îl pune pe mânuțele lui, pe cap și ii spune "Ce deștept ești, vai!" , îl lasă să se joace puțin cu stetoscopul și abia după îl ausculta la plămâni și inimă. Râdea și zâmbea și maică-sa era șocată cat de cuminte e. L-am auscultat și eu la plămâni și inimă și îl gâdileam puțin ca să râdă să tragă adânc aer. La ecografie ce mai, râdea într-una că era gelul rece și nu a vrut să stea locului că îl gâdila.

Și apoi a început să plângă. De ce? Că trebuia să plece chec. Viitor medic, plm. Acum consider și pediatria pe lângă MF.

[Anonymous No.10733800]

>>10733797
Oh well. I'm on phone and wanted to post this in another thread, kek. My bad. Can't delete it. Sorry.

[Anonymous No.10733826]

Anyone else interested in practicing medicine in east asia? Currently getting my degree at a decent american uni

[Anonymous No.10733907]

tfw no clamp gf

[Anonymous No.10733926]

Lads im going to hiroshima nuclear bomb pediatric surgery and psych
probs infectious diseases too

This some high stakes casino shit
Pray for me anons

[Anonymous No.10733929]

>>10733826
If you're thinking about japan I'm pretty sure it's virtually impossible
Dunno about the others but you need to speak the language fluently at the very least

[Anonymous No.10733934]

>>10733929
not that anon but why is Japan impossible

[Anonymous No.10733935]

Can diet reverse tooth decay? I'm tired of my shitty cavity prone teeth.

[Anonymous No.10733938]

>>10733934
Japan is notoriously strict concerning its immigration policies and medicine is no exception

[Anonymous No.10733941]

>>10733934
Something something Japan doesn't like gaijins and their medical system is nothing like the west, At most if you get to practice they will only let you treat foreigners

[Anonymous No.10733942]

Intussusception more like intusus another fucking summer cramming ahah

i just wanted to be a saudi sheik fuck you god

[Anonymous No.10733945]

>>10733668
>What are the best specialties lifestyle wise?
>Optho, derm, psych and rads
What about path (basically a 9 to 5), anesthesiology (the lazy stereotype exists for a reason), infectious diseases and ENT?

[Anonymous No.10733957]

>>10733941
>their medical system is nothing like the west,
How so? Just curious

[Anonymous No.10733959]

>>10733929
Actually most interested in korea since I have family there, but would consider China aswell since its a cool country

[Anonymous No.10733971]

>>10733957
It's universal free healthcare, medschool lasts for 6 years and the most basic protocols are made by themselves.

[Anonymous No.10733979]

>>10733971
Same as nordic countries, no?

[Anonymous No.10734043]

>>10733945
Path has shitt pay in my country, anesthesiology is full with night calls, on-duty work etc. Inf.diseases also has shitty pay, but you're exposed to dangerous pathogens. ENT can be nice I guess.

[Anonymous No.10734055]

>>10733935
Tooth defense against cavities begins in the uterus and ends at age 12.
Which means during tooth development you take 0.25 mg to 1 mg fluoride pills and you wont have problem in your adult age.
Or if your water and milk is floured you take it via consuming enough milk.
I did the pill route because my father is a dentist and it was easier to control dosage.
Never had a problem with my teeth.

[Anonymous No.10734116]

>>10733941
thats some bullshit. I only spent 3 months as an elective in a hospital in Tokyo. but hey, at least I spent some time there and did my research and did not pull inormation out of my ass. But god damn, half of the pople here are morons and the other half still believe the morons.

Their clinical system is based on the german one back in Prussian times. They still use some German words. It is of course different to the modern German system, but not completly different.

My teacher/sensei was from Taiwan and he was assistant professor, so not impossible, only very very very difficult.

If you want more, I have some stories.

[Anonymous No.10734129]

>>10733686
Do they not teach you physical examination in the US?

[Anonymous No.10734135]

>tfw no autistic pathologist gf

[Anonymous No.10734138]

>>10734135
I thought autists did neuro

[Anonymous No.10734156]

I shouldn't have studied this shit to be honest. Can't get a job in this shithole, everything is boring as fuck, hospitals treat you like a literal slave, the US is impossible to get in, you can't do any fucking shit without some retarded credentials. People don't even want to pay or care for their health anyways. Medicine was a mistake.

[Anonymous No.10734172]

>>10734156
>complaining without mentioning the country

anon, I hate to break the news to you, but the hospitals might be right in your case.

[Anonymous No.10734198]

>>10734172
Not him, but he is obviously from Romania.

[Anonymous No.10734201]

>>10734198
Nope, I'm the romanon.

[Anonymous No.10734212]

How much of a health risk does radiation exposure really represent for rads (diagnostic or interventional) over the course of their career?

[Anonymous No.10734213]

>thinking health care is a right.

Oh you stupid backward fuck.. haha.

Sage so hard.

[Anonymous No.10734216]

Any swedeanons here?

[Anonymous No.10734234]

>>10734216
Hva vil du ha min ven

[Anonymous No.10734239]

>>10734213
Based Americans lmao.
Mfw I see americans getting the finger from doctors

[Anonymous No.10734243]

>>10734212
Depends if you are big spoon or little spoon in the CT scan

I personally find that patients find being little spoon more reassuring.

[Anonymous No.10734246]

Why do they have a nationalised military but corporatised healthcare in America?
I mean they pay 22% taxes vs 33% in Germany. So what do they get out of those taxes? Drone strikes for the middle east?

[Anonymous No.10734247]

>>10734243
kek

[Anonymous No.10734249]

>>10734243
That's funny anon but seriously though.

[Anonymous No.10734265]

>>10734246
The average salary for surgeons in Germany is around a third of the average salary for surgeons in the USA.

[Anonymous No.10734272]

>>10734239
Yeah, it seems like we are the last bastion of ceetain types of common sense, but even that is slipping away rapidly because of socialists and people hell bent on destroying a good thing.

[>when the radio resident gives(...) No.10734273]

This nigga asking dangerous questions

An AMA hit team about to make his whole career disappear

[Anonymous No.10734284]

>>10734273
>>when the radio resident gives you a high six

[Anonymous No.10734287]

Furthermore, no person or entity should be required to provide services to someone who is unable to compensate them. Are you guys really that daft? Sure, if at such time you agree to indentured servitude or some type of debt that the provider agrees to, thats fine and good.

I just dont get you damned idiots that believe you should be taken care of no matter what.

[Anonymous No.10734295]

>>10734265
It's not like 99% Americans can afford those surgeons though but all Germans can afford their surgeons.

>>10734272
Yeah good things are when only billionaires can afford healthcare but the normal people still pay 22% taxes which is absolutely communist. So many taxes wasted damn.

[Anonymous No.10734298]

>>10734246
We're dumb enough to corporatize health care, not dumb enough to do the same to the military.

[>when the radio resident gives(...) No.10734312]

>>10734298
You do it to a large extent, so yeah, you ameridumbs are pretty dumb

[Anonymous No.10734316]

>>10734298
>not dumb enough to do the same to the military.
>what are contractors and PMCs
Your military is privately owned too, it just pretends not to be.

[Anonymous No.10734318]

>>10734298
You should have a basic military package that protects you against foreign invasions that you can insured for instead of letting all your taxes go to a military that does dumb shit all over the earth that has nothing to do with protecting your freedoms.

[Anonymous No.10734321]

>>10734312
Guess so, must be why we keep driving markets, culture and maintaining our superiority pushing our influence with military might. Yep, we must be pretty dumb.

[Anonymous No.10734325]

>>10734321
You can do that. Just don't make everyone pay taxes for it. The ones who want to pay for the military should pay for it via a military insurance or something. Why is the military "protection" a right but healthcare isn't? They should both be fully prioritized.

[Anonymous No.10734336]

http://www.fom.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/Jim-Zhong-Mobbs-Travel-Fellowship-Report-2013-final.pdf

[Anonymous No.10734340]

>>10734325
>okay, you can just invade the people who didn't pay up
>touch our customers though and we'll nuke you
And that's assuming it doesn't just become a protection racket.

[Anonymous No.10734373]

>>10734156

this but unironically

[Anonymous No.10734542]

>>10733686

did you check for impalement syndrome? seems common in your part of the world.

[Anonymous No.10734546]

>>10733929
>but you need to speak the language fluently at the very least

and try and read that fucked up spaghetti scribble they post on everything. personally, i think they make that shit up and pretend to have written language skills.

[Anonymous No.10734685]

Can somebody define the difference between nephrotic and nephritic syndrome?

[Anonymous No.10734710]

So at what semester is it customary to learn how to create a neovagina/neopenis?

[Anonymous No.10734711]

tomorrow is the final exam bros...

i got a date with destiny.. my heart says yeah but can't convince the rest of me...

[Anonymous No.10734733]

>>10733668
>American "healthcare"

Hey what's this pulsating thing? I'd better do what I was told.
>Clamps umbilical cord "early"
Oh no, what about VKD? Don't worry, we'd never doa nything to hurt you.
>Injects vitamin K, increasing the viscosity of the already hypoxic blood devoid of the stem cells needed to repair microvascular hemorrhages

Okay kiddo... just a little snip. :^)
>Cuts off 1/3-1/2 of penis skin

Time to vaccinate! These are to keep you healthy and happy.
>Injects some multinational corporation's product that on its own insert, section 13, says "[Vaccine] has not been tested for mutagenic potential, carcinogenic potential, or impairment of fertility." Tell the parents seizures and cognitive regression is normal or coincidence.

Feeling depressed?
>Here, take this pill.

Feeling good?
>Here, take this pill.

Anything else?
>Here, get this expensive and probably harmful diagnostic, then take this pill.

Doc, do you actually know why any of what's wrong with me, is wrong with me? I don't want to just be treating the symptoms.
>Sure, uh, you're uh, genetic risk factor, uh, defective. Some research shows... study is ongoing... Take these pills. :^)

[Anonymous No.10734738]

>>10734685
Basically proteinuria vs. haematuria

[Anonymous No.10734743]

>>10734733
OH SAY CAN YOU SEE

[Anonymous No.10734782]

>>10734685

ask him.

[Anonymous No.10734809]

>>10734243
I hope you realize air gets ionized in those rooms

[Anonymous No.10734824]

>>10734287
Everyone needs to feed their family and themselves but theres still underlying bad feeling when you have to refuse treatment because of absence of money.
Not everyone can sleep well knowing they turned down someone and this might have lead to worsening condition or even dean. Not saying you should treat everyone for free but you can make exceptions. Personaly ive seen docs do it, ive also seen doctors giving money to patient out of his pocket just so he can afford to do diagnostic tests.

[Anonymous No.10734851]

>>10734733

[Anonymous No.10734860]

>>10734733
land of the free

[Anonymous No.10734866]

>tfw nobody wants to seriously answer whether or not it's actually dangerous to be a radiologist

[Anonymous No.10734867]

>>10734733
Hey, looks like you need a CT scan! Antioxidants, what're those? Intravenous sodium ascorbate before and after? I'm sorry, I just don't follow. That's not procedure.
>Gives patient 2 years worth of background radiation to the brain all at once, sends them on their way. No dietary recommendations.
:^)

Whoa there doc, what kind of contrast is that? I have a thyroid issue.
>beats around the bush
Is it iodine?
>"I'm the one in charge here. We wouldn't do anything to hurt you."
Asks to see radiologist. Never sees radiologist.
Finally comes out that she doesn't know what she's trying to inject me with.
Patient performs all the risk assessment, decides they don't really care too much about living.
>Injects patient with iodine.
>Patient's blood pressure spikes, heart rate stays at 150bpm for the next 6 hours.
:^)

[Anonymous No.10734871]

>>10734867
>>10734733
>you

[Anonymous No.10734875]

>>10734866
well its not if you wear dosimeter and remember to step aside when taking a *snap*.
the further the better,and if you find a concrete pillar to hide behind hey thats even better.

[Anonymous No.10734876]

>>10734875
That sounds pretty dangerous to me, m8.

[Anonymous No.10734877]

>>10734866
It depends some radiologists do ultrasounds which is not dangerous some do angiographies which is dangerous, they even wear special body armor before starting. But ive even seen pregnant woman working there so its up to you if you want to do it.

[Anonymous No.10734878]

>>10734877
Depends on the subspecialty then, what about interventional, are there any subspecs there that don't pose too much risk? I'm thinking probably not, but diagnostic seems a bit boring

[Anonymous No.10734880]

>>10734866
Spending excessive time near the static field induces working memory deficits. Being within its south pole in particular is incredibly hazardous. The character of effect from the south pole, and north pole, are very different.

Regardless, even though MRI operators are no longer in the room you can expect a degree of neurodegeneration. Study has not been done showing these working memory deficits recover.

[Anonymous No.10734882]

>>10734876
remember 0.2mSv a day keeps the cancer away

[Anonymous No.10734888]

>>10734878
I think all interventional is higher risk, it is the nature of job, there is no way around it but to minimize risk alas at the end of the day you are still on danger. As someone said even if you are not under direct influence of rays the air in the procedure room and nearby is ionized.

[Anonymous No.10734891]

>>10734880
>>10734888
Thanks for the info anons.

[Anonymous No.10734898]

>>10734867
>have a thyroid issue.
>Injects patient with iodine.
>Patient's blood pressure spikes, heart rate stays at 150bpm for the next 6 hours.
Oh man you too?
wtf is with this

[Anonymous No.10734906]

>>10734733
Alright, time to have an MRI scan. We have a 3T machine but like just iamgine if we have a 7, or even 10T machine! Whoooaaa...
Alrighty, here's some gadolinium, kiddo. Does a brain gud! :^)
>Injects chelated gadolinium
>When chelator doesn't work "as well as previously belied" argue gadolinium isn't toxic anyway. Despite chelating it...
...
Science! :^)

[Anonymous No.10734910]

>>10734340
okay then make people pay a basic protection package in the taxes and then imperialists can pay extra insurance if they want america to invade other countries for example. Why should the simple tax payer be paying for wars that have nothing to do with him.
/pol/ should pay for their own wars

[Anonymous No.10734920]

>>10734910
Lol. Money is all created and loaned out at interest by the central bankers. It's near meaningless. Money is just a means to an end, power. That's why we use FIAT currencies. Though the Jews had gold nailed down centuries ago anyway.

[Anonymous No.10735107]

>>10734172
I'm from El Salvador.

What's the most hours you have ambu bagged a patient? I've done 24 hours.
Have you done 2 at the same time? I have, for like 4 hours maybe?

[Anonymous No.10735231]

>>10734920
Lmao, imagine when he hears about the petrodollar

[Anonymous No.10735234]

>>10735107
That sounds pretty shitty, but then again what education in El Salvador would lead to a much better outcome.

[Anonymous No.10735239]

>>10727093
So what happened?

[Anonymous No.10735260]

>>10733670
That's yuropeon/canadian healthcare though.
>get injured
>have to wait forever to see doctor
>finally see doctor
>offers subpar "healthcare" to fix injury

This is American healthcare:
>get injured
>see doctor
>doctor immediately fixes injury with the best healthcare on the planet
>insurance pays for it

[Anonymous No.10735269]

>Everyone else in the class is busy fucking nurses or eachother when they're not studying
>I'm here at 2 am on a wednesday jerking it to nurse porn

[Anonymous No.10735274]

>>10734867
Schizofriend, i just wanted to point out that the brain is pretty safe to irradiate, of all body tissues

And one CT cmon are you a fucking pussy 3,6roentgen buddy lets goooo

[Anonymous No.10735284]

How the fuck is ionized air dangerous?

Like, theres people literally paying for air ionizers

[Anonymous No.10735306]

>>10735284
Air ionizers also produce an amount of ozone, which is toxic.

[Anonymous No.10735311]

>>10735274
only 3.6 not bad

[Anonymous No.10735328]

>>10735269
I want to hatefuck a nurse.

[Anonymous No.10735354]

>>10735284
ionizing cannons my dude

[Anonymous No.10735391]

>>10735311
he will be okay, da

[Anonymous No.10735869]

>>10734287
This libertarian favorite argument against socialized medicine is to me just a fantasy problem. By way of comparison we can look at police; every citizen of America is guaranteed police service. Everyone, no matter who. Being a cop is by all accounts a shitty job, and they're usually in short supply, but policing still gets done. This is in spite of private work of an extremely similar nature; security; also being available. And no slavery is necessary. No buff, bald guys get drafted into the police, none of them get dragged out of their beds at gunpoint to go write traffic tickets, they just show up for work of their own volition.
>Well being a cop doesn't require as much training
Sure, but being a public defender does, or filling a lot of the complex functions that the US government now guarantees to its citizens, yet all this shit gets done. Even less prestigious things like county clerk.

Fact is, if you pay for it, somebody's going to be willing to do it in a nation where unemployment is higher than zero. You won't need to drag doctors out of their private practices at gunpoint to get socialized medicine working, it'll happen as soon as you put up the job openings.

NB: I don't support socialized medicine, I think we should go back to lodge practice, but I hate this argument.

[Anonymous No.10736030]

>>10735239
Wanna know this too

[Anonymous No.10736040]

What the hell is biting me? Got rid of bed bugs a while back, killing a lot more flying things going into summer.

[Anonymous No.10736091]

>>10735269
>nurse porn
Fucking based. My now fiancée is an ex nurse, she's in medschool now. Find yourself a nurse or a former nurse, they're THE SHIT.

[Anonymous No.10736155]

>>10734116
Post stories about their medical system and the routes of entry please.
And what do you mean when you say it’s based of the Prussian system?

[Anonymous No.10736184]

>>10733668
JUST TELL ME IF SNRIs WILL MAKE ME SMARTER OR DUMBER

[Anonymous No.10736188]

>>10736184
About that, is it true that depression causes actual brain damage?
And if so, is it reversible?

[Anonymous No.10736268]

>>10736040
Do you sleep with an open window?

[Anonymous No.10736276]

>>10736188
No, feelings don't cause brain damage. But SSRI drugs do. They are based on fluoride molecules which actually eat holes in the brain and disable/kill/damage neural pathways.

>>10736184
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXSoiziPdek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRj9CxkVrz0

https://archive.is/aCwbz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMi_s8hYRSg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQegsqYhuZE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-wMP2Q0Ifs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3JQ8OVHVWA

https://ssristories.org/ssris/

https://ssristories.org/category/cause-of-death/suicide/

https://breggin.com/medication-madness-how-psychiatric-drugs-cause-violence-suicide-and-crime/

https://breggin.com/the-hazards-of-psychiatric-diagnosis/

[Anonymous No.10736277]

>>10736276
>feelings don't cause brain damage
Depression is a neurochemical imbalance though. I'm not talking about the meme youtube depression, but the actual mental illness.

[Anonymous No.10736278]

>>10734824
Not dean. How can some of you medfags live with yourselves :(

[Anonymous No.10736279]

>>10736276
I wish you would kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.10736280]

>>10736277

> Creating Your Own Mental Disorder

> First, let’s choose some common human experience that most people find unpleasant. How about boredom? Most people experience boredom as...

> unpleasant

> So — let’s get started and substitute the word “pathological” for /unpleasant/

> Doesn’t that simple switch start to give it that ‘disease feel’ already? Pathological boredom!

> The next step is to name our disease. How about “interest deficit disorder” or “motivation deficit disorder”? Better yet, let’s find a medical-sounding word from Latin to substitute for boredom. How about “Dysmoveria”? /Movere/ is Latin for motivation. By naming our disease, we are practically all the way to creating it. When you open a door to a new mental disorder millions of people will rush headlong right in and embrace it, as if they’d been waiting their whole life for just this opportunity. Suddenly they aren’t sad or anxious or bored—they’re afflicted with something.

> We have our disease named: dysmoveria. It sounds a little strange now but it won’t when tens of millions of people start using it and chatting about their disorder. “I’m taking Moveritol for my dysmoveria and it’s working wonders!”

> Next we need a symptom picture. What does it look like and feel like when you’re bored? Well, a bored person would probably experience some or all of the following:

> 1. A lack of interest in usual pursuits
> 2. Apathy about life
> 3. A pessimistic attitude
> 4. Feelings of “emotional instability”
> 5. Difficulty concentrating on ordinary tasks
> 6. A lack of energy
> 7. Chronic fatigue
> 8. Sleeping too much or too little
> 9. Feelings of boredom

[Anonymous No.10736282]

>>10736280
Jesus christ shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.10736283]

>>10736280

> How many of these must be present in order for us to “diagnose the mental disorder” of dysmoveria? Since obviously we want more rather than fewer people to fit the diagnostic criteria so that we can create plenty of patients and plenty of drug buyers for Moveritol, let’s make sure that only a few symptoms are needed in order to qualify—let’s say, five. Let’s continue pulling numbers out of thin air and say that these five symptoms must have been present for at least two weeks. Five symptoms, two weeks—sounds good.

> Let’s also make this negotiable. If only four symptoms are present and if they’ve only been present for twelve days, we’re not going to quibble. Heck, if the “primary” symptom is present—feelings of boredom—that’s really enough! We’ll call that looseness “professional discretion.”

> Officially you will need to display five symptoms and have displayed them for two weeks. We offer no rationale for these numbers, as no rationale is needed when creating a new mental disorder. Nor could any rationale conceivably be provided. Unofficially, all you need to do is announce that you’re bored—that’s all we really need to hear!

> Next, if we were doing this “for real,” we would gather a panel of clinicians—some psychiatrists, psychologists, family therapists, and clinical social workers—and we’d ask them, “Do your clients or patients ever report this symptom picture?” “Yes!” they’d cry in unison. “We see this all time!” “Great!” we’d reply. “We have ourselves a genuine disorder!”

[Anonymous No.10736285]

>>10736283


> Next we’d work on “differential diagnosis criteria,” that is, on distinguishing dysmoveria from, say, clinical depression, which it quite resembles in its symptom picture. How would we know which was which? Naturally enough, we would know according to the self-reports of patients. The primary differential diagnostic criterion would be that if you reported feeling sad we’d go with depression and if you reported feeling bored we’d go with dysmoveria. Simple enough!

> Next, how shall we treat dysmoveria? Well, with some “combination” of treatments—this allows everyone with a clinical practice to have patients. Whatever your license says you are allowed to do, we will say “works.” Those clinicians like psychologists, family therapists and clinical social workers who can’t prescribe medication will be permitted to “talk it away.” Those clinicians like psychiatrists who can prescribe medication will be permitted to prescribe. We need not provide any rationale as to why a mental disorder should be treatable just by talking about it. Talking is a completely customary way to treat mental disorders and needs no rationale.

> Of course we’d get drug researchers right on it to create a drug that can reduce or eliminate the symptoms of dysmoveria. This is much simpler than it sounds, since there is no actual underlying disease to be treated. If you had a malignant tumor, you’d need to treat the tumor and not just the symptoms of its presence. Here we are just treating symptoms, since there is nothing present “underneath” except boredom. So our drug research can be up and running instantly, since our goal is the relatively simple one of eliminating or masking certain symptoms.

[Anonymous No.10736287]

>>10736285

> An additional option, if we happen to have a few neuroscientists among our friends, would be to have them do a little brain scanning. You know what? They would discover that a brain looks different according to whether you do or don’t have dysmoveria! Wow. When you’re bored fewer parts of your brain light up than when you’re excited. This kind of observation thrills people and sounds very scientific. It is completely meaningless in and of itself—of course your brain will light up in different ways depending on whether you’re watching the shopping channel or doing calculus—but people take it to mean something. This is muddy cause-and-effect in action. So it’s quite a useful add-on!

> Naturally it helps in this process of creating mental disorders to be in a position of authority. Being a psychiatrist or having some association with a drug company wouldn’t hurt. But, really, anyone can pull off the feat. Just write a book that makes the case for your new mental disorder, hire a publicist, and let’s see how long it takes before patients line up! Wouldn’t millions of people suddenly discover that they were suffering from “email distraction disorder” or “post-retirement dysthmia” as soon as they heard about it? You bet they would!

[Anonymous No.10736288]

>>10736287

> Any unwanted human experience can be turned into a mental disorder by following the simple steps I’ve just outlined. Try it yourself with envy (invidia), rage (furorism), loneliness (infrequentia), or doubt (dubitarism). You can turn any normal human experience into a mental disorder following these steps. Sleeping more than usual? Going through the motions? Not interested in what’s going on around you? Apathetic? Bored? That exactly describes a teenager on a two-week summer vacation with her parents! But now we have a better name for it: dysmoveria. Isn’t it nice that soon there will be a drug to give your daughter so that she will be more pleasant and pliable when she accompanies you on your annual vacation to Nebraska?

> I think you can see the basic ruse. What is the phrase “mental disorder” supposed to connote? As it is currently used, it means precisely the following: anything not wanted. All you need to do is give the unwanted experience a medical-sounding name and describe its look and you’ve created a disorder. That look is called a “symptom picture” but that’s just a fancy phrase meant to sound more impressive than “look.” Give a human experience a fancy name and describe its look—that’s all that’s needed. The unwanted, troubling experience is surely real, but calling it a mental disorder is just a profitable naming game.

[Anonymous No.10736293]

Wtf is up with this sand nigger spamming the thread?

[Anonymous No.10736296]

>>10736293
Just a schizo retard who popped up one or two threads ago because modern medicine triggers him or whatever

[Anonymous No.10736300]

>>10736277
implying thoughts and feelings are diseases
Absolutely brainwashed.

[Anonymous No.10736303]

>>10736300
>frogposter being a fucking retard
Like clockwork. Fuck off back to /x/, schizo.

[Anonymous No.10736307]

>>10736296
I think you're talking about me.
...
>Clamped
:^)
:^)
:^)

[Anonymous No.10736308]

>>10736277
Psych drugs /cause/ a chemical imbalance.

About SSRI drugs 01: https://files.catbox.moe/kpb2n2.mp3

About SSRI drugs 02: https://files.catbox.moe/8m8pbk.mp3

About SSRI drugs 03: https://files.catbox.moe/vdmjym.mp3

About SSRI drugs 04: https://files.catbox.moe/ddto2f.mp3

About SSRI drugs 05: https://files.catbox.moe/kak1pq.mp3

About SSRI drugs 06: https://files.catbox.moe/c42tmy.mp3

About SSRI drugs 07: https://files.catbox.moe/ma0v43.mp3

About SSRI drugs 08: https://files.catbox.moe/nm4ifq.mp3

About SSRI drugs 09: https://files.catbox.moe/u8zobq.mp3

About SSRI drugs 10: https://files.catbox.moe/14ldse.mp3

About SSRI drugs 11: https://files.catbox.moe/hgnzor.mp3

[The Notorious Hacker 4CHAN No.10736320]

>>10736276
>>10736280
>>10736283
>>10736285
>>10736287
>>10736288
>>10736308
based and reality pilled

[Anonymous No.10736331]

>>10736282
You're suffering from a combination of three things: Intoxication Anosognosia, cognitive dissonance and Christinsanity.

[Anonymous No.10736341]

>>10736331
>maybe if I use funny neologisms it'll make me sound smart
You're fucking insufferable, go back to the shithole you crawled out from

[Anonymous No.10736344]

>>10736341
Clamped, circumcised, vaccinated.
Do not protect your abusers. It is time to build something better.

[Anonymous No.10736348]

>>10736344
>implying I'm American
It's time to stop being an obsessive faggot. It's regrettable that your dick got mutilated, but don't take it out on us with your abhorrent posts.

[Anonymous No.10736429]

>>10736348
Admit that you can't admit that you've been irreversibly damaged (physically and mentally) by psychiatric drugs and utterly deceived by the "doctors" and the industry that tricked you into taking them.

[Anonymous No.10736453]

>>10736429
I've never taken an SSRI/SNRI/whatever else in my life. Keep projecting, you pathetic fuck.

[Anonymous No.10736466]

This fucking NIGGER forgeting the tiny detail of most disorders having to IMPAIR NORMAL EVERYDAY FUNCTIONING (however the fuck you put it in english) to make a diagnosis

Literally the only think separating mental disorders from thinking funny
>b-but thats a human construct, its not real, its just feelings!

Just do us a solid and fucking kill yoursel my mang

[Anonymous No.10736552]

Can anyone help me figure out what happened to me.
>Get feeling of pulsating pressure in my left lower arm
>Get discomfort in left side of chest
>My left pec starts feeling sore after a while of this, feels like the muscle soreness you get after you work out your chest. I've had no muscle spasms in my left pec and I haven't been working my chest out.
Was this a mild heart attack or something? Did my muscle get sore due to lack of blood supplying it with oxygen? What should I do about this, I'm a bit scared.

[Anonymous No.10736558]

>>10736552
How often are you passing gas?

[Anonymous No.10736564]

>>10736558
At a normal frequency, I think. I haven't noticed anything abnormal with my farting patterns.

[Anonymous No.10736570]

>>10736564
How are they smelling?

[Anonymous No.10736574]

>>10736570
Normal (good)

[Anonymous No.10736580]

>>10736558
>>10736564
>>10736570
>>10736574
I'm serious, could it be angina or something?

[Anonymous No.10736598]

>>10736552
Is the pain constrictive, like a claw?

[Anonymous No.10736605]

Why does this thread always attracts spamming retards who only have surface knowledge about subjects, no clinical experience at all, yet scream about malpractice in subjects he has no understanding whatsoever apart from info taken from retarded internet articles.
We had antivaxxer, now this clamp retard. Just ignore this faggot. He can’t be reasoned with.

[Anonymous No.10736608]

>>10736605
I wish he had a trip so we could filter him...

[Anonymous No.10736612]

>>10736466
This.

[Anonymous No.10736616]

>>10736598
If I were to describe it, it would be as a dull and throbbing discomfort.

[Anonymous No.10736618]

>>10736605
But anon have you looked into bioelectricity? They're lying to us man, I have a dozen links to a balkan guy's blog that proves it

[Anonymous No.10736626]

>>10736616
Go to doctor and get stress-ECG

[Anonymous No.10736628]

>>10736626
I will ask for this, thank you

[Anonymous No.10736637]

>>10736605
They clamped your umbilical cord.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30473033
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30278462
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30193752
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30598672
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29101631
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30208504

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27654493

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30355293

>>10736618
That's bioelectromagnetics and magnetobiology, kiddo.

[Anonymous No.10736640]

>>10736637
Yeah man totally
Also you can cure throat cancer with footrubs but big pharma is trying to sweep that under the rug, spread the word

[Anonymous No.10736649]

>>10736640
Too bad for you. :^)

Imagine that, being in a thread on medicine but actively refusing to know how biological systems work. Sad, but unfortunately par for the course. Have fun being yet another mediocre ordinary, anon. Or... you could step it up, and break away.

[Anonymous No.10736653]

>>10736605
>t. clamper

[Anonymous No.10736656]

>>10736649
Sure dude it really sounds fun being a delusional moron with no actual working knowledge of the medical field, aimlessly posting garbage in these threads and hiding your seething rage behind a smug facade
Enjoy schizophrenia

[Anonymous No.10736657]

>>10736605
ah cmon anon, let's not pretend the guys who scream "PREMED" as soon as you do not agree with the, or the ones who feel like profs already but show every time they know jackshit are any better. Here are probably 80% idiots and 20% somwhat educated people.

[Anonymous No.10736670]

>the seething clampers ITT

[Anonymous No.10736932]

Honestly, i kind of agree with the schizo. At least in my hospital/uni all mental/psic pathologies are treated a lot by drugs and very little by social support. For the most severe cases, when someone is a danger for himself and the others, i understand, but otherwise it really is disgusting. Many experienced doctors i've met over the years agreed.
There are better structures around that work well but we have no practice there obviously.

[Anonymous No.10736948]

>>10736656
I'm not angry, I'm disappointed, disturbed, and disgusted. But not tired. Just a bit numb. I've had enough of this horseshit, the most I can do is inform people about what's really gone on here, and hope they recognize and accept their own power, and responsibility.

This is a house of cards that's primed to be torn down. And it will be, one way or another.

[Anonymous No.10736966]

This is your society and your future profession. Consider your course carefully.

[Anonymous No.10736965]

>>10736091
What's so great about nurses?

[Anonymous No.10736971]

>>10736293
>>10736296

It's this dude. >>/sci/thread/S10716594#p10716827
tldr insane hypochrondiac you might recognize as the 5G spammer. Hates doctors because they never agree with him.

[Anonymous No.10736981]

>>10736971
Clamped?

[Anonymous No.10736982]

>>10736341
I don't think you get his point. He's saying his nonsensical neologisms have just as much merit as a diagnosis like ADHD or depression.
>>10736640
did you read the studies? The message is not the messenger.

[Anonymous No.10736993]

>>10736982
>I don't think you get his point
It was fairly obvious that the neologisms were placeholders for actual mental illnesses, but thanks for your condescending clarification.
Putting the stupid form aside, the content isn't much better either, as explained by >>10736466

[Anonymous No.10737002]

>>10736982
>did you read the studies?
Sure my dude, let me go through this fifty-page vixra-tier pseudoscientific rant in order to accurately gauge the legitimacy of this obviously mentally unstable individual's claims
Or maybe I shouldn't waste my time because, you know, the explanation with the fewest assumptions is usually the right one

[Anonymous No.10737006]

>>10737002
Look at this tool lol. All these excuses to be lazy.

Durr I'm totally justified to not bother to look, durr. Believe me durr.

[Anonymous No.10737007]

Daily reminder to report and hide clamping nigger.

[Anonymous No.10737010]

>>10737007
Umbilical->clamp();

[Anonymous No.10737012]

>>10737006
>dude I SWEAR it's worth your time, please read it, magnetobiology is real man come on
Pathetic.
Is this insane tweaker just gonna become the Jon Tooker of medical threads?

[Anonymous No.10737015]

>>10737012
>Gonna become
Bruh he's been at this for literal years
I first saw him on /diy/ of all places, where he was going nuts at a guy who wanted to make a repeater for his router or something

[Anonymous No.10737019]

>>10737015
Man that's fucking sad

[Anonymous No.10737022]

>>10737015
He posted a picture of a crane putting a wireless unit in a false cactus. Indeed, he wanted wanted to make a repeater. I advised him strongly not to do so.

Anyone doing otherwise is helping him poison himself and anyone near him. That sounds bizarre to you now, because you're presently in the role of a follower. But in ~3-5 more years you'll see it as a parent letting their kid play in an the xray machine at the shoe store. Only then, it'll be far too late.

[Anonymous No.10737027]

Im curious now, tell us a bit about your life, oh great clampeatore

[Anonymous No.10737030]

>>10737015
Kek, imagine having such a boring life that you just spam threads on a fucking peruvian pillow making forum.

[Anonymous No.10737036]

>>10737019
See?
>>10737022

I spend enough time here that I can figure out which threads he's going to be triggered by just by OP pic or subject and can usually find them before he does. It's some weird autism thing on my part for sure but it's worth the resulting textwalls and spam when he gets called out.

[Anonymous No.10737037]

>>10737027
I'm just a guy that has had cause, and means, to know some stuff about some things. I'm the kind of person that fixes problems, and I happen to be beyond sick of seeing ass backwards, mediocre, frankly evil garbage everywhere. For no good reason. Clear problems, with clear causes, and clear, doable, solutions. If people knew what was what, a small subset of them would change.

That's what I can do.

[Anonymous No.10737044]

>>10737036
>tfw you will never be as expertly trained in detecting schizobait threads as this anon
Teach me your ways

[Anonymous No.10737053]

>>10737037
So you are a fat neet in your early twenties with a history of mental disease who has achieved nothing and considers watching yt vids and reading 10 studies is enough to be educated on something

Gotchu

[Anonymous No.10737055]

>>10737044
It's not really something intentional, I eventually just get a feel for who's going to show up in threads about certain subjects and what causes them to post certain things.

I attribute it to years of playing internet detective as a teenager.

[Anonymous No.10737059]

>>10737053
But dude clamps

[Anonymous No.10737063]

>>10737055
Breh i got a gay jap pinpointed milimetrically on /int/

I just know where hes gonna be lurking its not even intentional

[Anonymous No.10737067]

>>10737063
Fuck I wonder if some anon is stalking me like that too
I'm careful with personal info but who knows

[Anonymous No.10737074]

>>10737036
Let me put it this way. You're in a hospital, your wife is giving birth. They do any of the following.
-Have her lay flat on her back, where childbirth is infeasible.
-Administer pitocin, which brain damages the child.
-When using the kid's head as a battering ram fails to force it through the birth canal, they administer an epidural and go for the cesarean.
-Kid comes out one way or another. Cord is there, they clamp it.
-They want to inject your child with vitamin K scaring you with "oh no VKD! Literally a tiny number of kids per year even with early clamping, so you need vitamin K." Which contains aluminum and further deprives the child of oxygen.
-They want to vaccinate your child, injecting them with concoctions which "have not been tested for mutagenic potential, carcinogenic potential, or impairment of fertility." You allow them, and damage your child's gut, skin, breathing, and or brain.
-They wash your kid's eyes out with vaseline.
-They convince, force, or allow the mother to deny the child the breast, and thus the colostrum that would flush out the garbage from their gut and close it up. Child develops jaundice from that bilirubin entering the body.

On and on. You would allow this because no one ever told you, and you could have never expected or believed the sheer stupidity and barbarism of the standard US birthing procedures. It is because, no one ever told you and you never thought about it. I am putting it where you will see, and think about it. No matter what you say now, when the time comes, you won't let them clamp that cord. You know you won't.

[Anonymous No.10737077]

>>10737074
What about bioelectromagnetics?

[Anonymous No.10737078]

>>10737074
Oh fugg are you that one antivaccine spammer too?

[Anonymous No.10737084]

>>10737077
What do you mean?

>>10737078
Not yet. ;^)

[Anonymous No.10737086]

>>10737084
Tell me about bioelectromagnetics in general.

[Anonymous No.10737089]

>>10737086

>He doesnt bioelectromagnetostimulate his prostate

You missing out faggot

[Anonymous No.10737100]

What is a good field for some interested in Rheological studies and general physics? I have some background with my own research on blood and courses over medical imaging, but just am unaware of what is out there.

[Anonymous No.10737101]

>>10737089
Never tried prostate stim because I have haemorrhoids and I'd rather avoid doing something stupid

[Anonymous No.10737107]

>>10737086
It's just the effects of electricity and magnetism on biological systems. Macroscopic to low level biophysical, endogenous and exogenous.

[Anonymous No.10737114]

Her in burundi we leave the umbilical cord intact after csections until the mother joins Great Mara`Hula sitting in his throne of skulls

That way, child grow warrior

[Anonymous No.10737127]

>>10736966
>>>/pol/
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.10737129]

>>10737127
C-C-C-C-CLLLLLLAAAAAMMMMMPPPPPPPPPP!!!!

[Anonymous No.10737136]

I will go into obstetrics and start clamping away just to spite this guy

[Anonymous No.10737152]

>>10737136
He was clamped, and so, he must clamp.

[Anonymous No.10737178]

Alright, so that's enough about clamping for now. Let's all go and make a better world.

Good luck.

[Anonymous No.10737198]

>>10735260
No, American healthcare is:
>get injured
>see doctor
>doctor immediately fixes injury with the best healthcare on the planet
>healthcare doesn’t pay for shit because you haven't hit your deductible
>you get rammed with bills up the ass from the physician, the radiologist, the nurse, the janitor who was waxing the floors three hours ago

[Anonymous No.10737204]

>>10737067
>Have her lay flat on her back, where childbirth is infeasible.
Not true. Sitting position or laying on the right side where vena cava won’t get crushed is encouraged. Personally seen few birthes while on OB/GYN rotation, all of them were sitting.
>administer pitocin
Not true. Only do so after birth if placenta does not come out on its own which is life threatening complication (also used in cases where uterus just cant contract so baby is at risk of dying also happens rarily)
>When using the kid's head as a battering ram fails to force it through the birth canal, they administer an epidural and go for the cesarean.
When every way fails you have no choice but to do caesarian if not baby will simply die.
>Kid comes out one way or another. Cord is there, they clamp it
You shit head they clamo the fucking cord after pulsation in it has ceased! This has been said repeatedly.
>They want to inject your child with vitamin K
Doesn’t happen routinely in normal childbirth without complications. (At least not in my country)
>vaccines
Not going into that one, if it werent for vaccines there is highprobability you would not be spammkng this shit now.
>They wash your kid's eyes out with vaseline
Only happens if mother had pathogenic vaginal flora which increases vertical transit of diseases like ghonorhea for example.
>They convince, force, or allow the mother to deny the child the breast, and thus the colostrum that would flush out the garbage from their gut and close it up. Child develops jaundice from that bilirubin entering the body.
Literally not true. Doctors stress the importance of breast feeding, in proper nutrition and immune development of the baby, mother’s igA passed through milk protects baby for another six month, also giving mother natural contraception as prolactin produced during breastfeeding causes amenorea.
You are full of shit and you don’t know what are you talking about.

[Anonymous No.10737209]

>>10737204
Meant for you
>>10737074

[Anonymous No.10737210]

>>10737204
Country.

[Anonymous No.10737229]

>>10737210
Well?

[Anonymous No.10737243]

>>10737210
Not US

[Anonymous No.10737253]

>>10737243
Yep, obviously. The thing you're defending deserves every bit of criticism I've given it, and tenfold more. I don't know if you just assumed or had a moment of tribalism, but that's just the way it is. That's what they do to the children.

[Anonymous No.10737260]

>>10737253

[Anonymous No.10737286]

>>10737253
Or maybe we are sure the shit you are spouting is not common practice in the US because it doesnt make any sense, and we are also sure you are a complete ignoramus who hasnt seen a delivery in his life.

>Hey chief, seems to me delivery is not feasible in that position
>Listen here partner, thats how the founding fathers wrote americans would be born and thats how well do it. Amen.
>God bless

Yeah on a second thought i can see that happening

[Anonymous No.10737329]

>>10737286
Yeah, actually it is.
Deal with it.

[Anonymous No.10737542]

Fug anons is this serious?
>decide to do light cardio after a long time of being bedridden (several months)
>finish with no major issues feel good
>5 minutes later my vision starts blurring out and turns into total blindness in seconds
>ears start ringing until I go deaf
>my arms and legs feel like fucking spaghetti with no strength
>uncontrollable urge to vomit and drenching cold sweats ensue a few moments later
>notice in the middle of this shitfest my heart racing like as if I just ran a marathon
>this continues for 40 minutes until I go back to normal
This was yesterday but now I'm noticing an irregular third heartbeat from time to time and it annoys me to lay on my left side now thanks to it. What was it?

[Anonymous No.10737563]

>>10737542
How often are you farting?

[Anonymous No.10737573]

>>10737563
Often I guess.

[Anonymous No.10737619]

>>10737542
First of all, go see a real doctor you melon

How old are you, are you overweight/underweight?
What constitutes light cardio
Why were you bedridden for months
Were you drinking water
What were you doing when it started. Where you still, sitting, standing or did you just get up or move or do something?

Did you actually vomit
Did you feel anything else you havent described?
Did you lose consciousness at any point?

Where you freaking the fuck out? Like a sense of impeding death, extreme fear, difficulty to breath?

This "third beat" is it like two beats coming very close, a moment with no beat and then the "third beat"?

Are you gay?

[Anonymous No.10737621]

>>10737100
Probably some physiology research, straight to a PhD program.

[Anonymous No.10737622]

>>10737542
Given that wireless devices can cause sudden cardiac death and strokes, it could be that. You also could have suffered a vertebral-basilar mini-stroke. The other possibility is spinal issues causing compression of the brainstem.

Hard to say. What's your resting heart rate now? You should probably get an EKG.

[Anonymous No.10737624]

>>10734055
Damn, that's why they made us drink that shit in elementary school, that tasted fucking awful. My teeth are pretty good, though, so thanks I guess.

[Anonymous No.10737632]

>>10735239
>>10736030
In my headcanon, the anon is too busy with his summer fling to post here. I hope reality isn't more depressing.

[Anonymous No.10737642]

>>10737622
Dont listen to this fucking retard anon he doenst know shit.
Hes our thread schizo-on-duty

But definitely go see a doctor and get an ecg done just to be safe.

[Anonymous No.10737644]

>>10737542
Yeah that happens it's nothing I wouldn't worry about it
>40 minutes
Maybe not then

[Anonymous No.10737647]

>>10737644
Oh yeah did you eat beforehand? I had the great idea of barely eating all day then going running and had exactly the same thing happen for five or so minutes

[Anonymous No.10737654]

>>10734055
Junk science. Water fluoridation came out of the Manhattan Project, was bullshitted by Sloan-Kettering, and modern day large scale meta-analysis either show no consistent difference, or a trend towards worse teeth in fluoridated groups. Prior to the advent of fluorine chemistry with DuPont's freon, then uranium refinement and teflon, most of the literature on it came from China and indicated tooth mottling, reduced durability of teeth after cessation of fluoride exposure, and reduced IQ linear with fluoride exposure. It's a toxin, and is worthless for the human body.

Now here's the real deal. your teeth have vast numbers of tiny narrow channels in them. Ordinarily, if your phosphorous levels etc are adequate, there's fluid flowing out of those channels. If it's not, the direct of flow either reverses or halts. This is when cavities form.

If you're worried about remineralization etc, just use theobromine. Superior to fluoride, and doesn't make you retarded while inhibiting ~200 enzyme systems in the body, including a key part of the krebs cycle.

Fluorides regardless of the type, have no internal use, including prenatally. Fluoride pills are poison. Your toothpaste says don't swallow for a reason.

Long history behind this one, you really have to dig into it. Other countries don't do this. Seriously, what in the hell are you people doing taking fluoride pills. What is the matter with you.

[Anonymous No.10737657]

>>10737644
Meh
When i was 15 i smoked a yuge joint with my friends and ended up rolling in the ground and roaming all around blind and deaf for almost an hour.

I really thought i was going to live like that for the rest of my life but i just left (while pretending not to be blind lol) because im not a pussy who goes blind after smoking weed.

I was a fucking retard

[Anonymous No.10737669]

>>10737657
I have visual snow, and frequently had Alice in Wonderland Syndrome as a child. Weed induced nystagmus and then extreme slow motion. Just like AiWS where my mind would become desynchronized from motor output and sensory input and I'd be telling my body to move and waiting for it to happen. But far more stable, and much faster.

Thought moves at normal speed, but everything is slow motion. It also caused mental regressions though. So I regressed back to where I was 5 years old, then I was just dumped there and trapped back in all these memories. Was probably around 15 as well. The slow-mo took around 4 days to wear off.

[Anonymous No.10737742]

>>10737619
24, overweight by 7 lb
15 minutes on a elliptic machine with no resistance
Spine issues anon, my lower back is constantly in pain and sometimes the nerves get compressed and I lose my strength to walk and feel crippling pain, like a rheumatoid issue I guess.
3 liters a day minimum because my liver is fucked as well
I was sitting on a chair and was about to stand up to make my way to the bathroom when it started
>This "third beat" is it like two beats coming very close, a moment with no beat and then the "third beat"?
After searching online the kinds of irregular heartbeats, the closest I can see the feel resemble is a 'ventricular extrasystoles'.
No I didn't vomit, I suppressed the urge to.
Felt an intense need to shit myself as if I had diarrhea right there and then just like the sudden nausea.
Was close to on multiple occasions but I just didn't want to fall asleep feeling like that.
No u.
>>10737647
Yes I did.

[SEE A FUCKING DOCTOR I AINT NO(...) No.10737818]

>>10737742>
i officially do not know

Could be nothing (a drop in bp a panick attack) or could be something else.

But if you have other pathologies and sketchy shit happens you should see a doctor anon.

I cant stress that enough, the first reaction should be to go get checked, not post in 4chins
Take care of yourself anon, dont be stupid

ps do you have an actual diagnosis on your spine and liver issues and are you undergoing any treatment?
Or are you a neet alcoholic with a fucked back

Anyways genuine congrats on the exercise, go see a doctor asap to rest easy

[Anonymous No.10737846]

This thread has been absolute garbage. So many sprawling, rambling posts. Shite.

[Anonymous No.10737868]

>>10737846
C L A M P E D
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[Anonymous No.10737882]

>>10737846
This post is garbage.

[Anonymous No.10737921]

>>10737818
Yes, the rheumatic problems have been with me since I was a kid and the liver issue is from all the meds I have been taking daily now for almost 2 decades because I don't drink, smoke or any other shit.

Yeah might be a good idea to get my heart checked just in case, thanks mate.

[Anonymous No.10738168]

How important would it be for a brit to get a LoR before applying for a FM residency?

[Anonymous No.10738296]

>>10736277
I was diagnosed with actual depression and nope you are wrong. Doesn't matter what some retarded psychiatrist says you people are abusing patients.

[Anonymous No.10738309]

>>10737542
What the fuck did you push yourself too hard or something? Does this actually happen? I'm never running again.

[Anonymous No.10738381]

>>10738309
I used to exercise daily before being bedridden for almost a year and that never happened before tho.
My guess is the sudden change from doing nothing at all but lay on a bed for that long and then one day decide to start over with cardio instead of physiotherapy.

[Anonymous No.10738522]

>>10733668
>old, tainted euromeds preach & praise murican-healthcare cuz of big buck
>meanwhile euro-hospitals asclepius-pilled & taking in even the smelliest bums true to their calling
AMERICA PLS

[Anonymous No.10738546]

>>10738296
>actual depression
Lets get at the bottom of this...

> in psychiatry, a mental state of altered mood characterized by feelings of sadness, despair, and discouragement;
>characterized by feelings
And there you go! Now put on those sneakers & GTFO to do some cardio.
Cheerio!

[Anonymous No.10738897]

rename it to the clamocratic oath

[Anonymous No.10738910]

brb goint to catastrophically fail a pediatrics exam

pray for me

[Anonymous No.10738922]

I just know this smug biochemst teaching us genetics n shit is going to ask us about the most fucking inconsequent techniques

He left out actual genetic pathologies out of the course list and when asked about them went "of course you need to know about them, i shouldnt even have to tell you this guys"
yeah fuck you man i dont have a glass ball telling me what you want me to know

[Anonymous No.10738939]

>>10738922
>i dont have a glass ball telling me what you want me to know
There's course description, reading list etc all readily available for students. A person can, of course, pass a course by doing 1/10th of what is required & many do, but that's not a norm.

[Anonymous No.10739214]

>>10735284
this>>10735306

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ--scjcAZ4 10:21
>>10736605
And the SSRI guy now...
>>10737136
LUL
>>10737542
You described hypoglycemia/hypotension. Next time it happens drink/eat something sweet and get hydrated.
>>10738910
You'll be fine.


225 replies of utter garbage btw. Is this the end of /med/ threads?

[Anonymous No.10739234]

>>10739214
>take retarded profession
>don't learn anything in undergrad because loading up easy GPA padding courses
>don't study in spare time
>greedy and incurious
>w-why are all my peers retarded
almost all suffering is self inflicted or unavoidable anon

[Anonymous No.10739249]

>>10733668
Help, much worried.
I had an appendectomy a couple of days ago, and my left testicle feels numb.
I already had some minor neuralgia in it from a reverted torsion years ago when I was a teenager.
I've bashed the wood twice since then, and it is still numb, but the testicle feels fine and hasn't ascended.
Do I have some sort of impingement of the genitofemoral nerve as per?
>https://www.medscape.com/answers/2225774-32331/what-is-the-pathogenesis-of-genitofemoral-nerve-entrapment
If so, what do I do?

[Anonymous No.10739250]

>>10739249
It was laparoscopic, fyi.

[Anonymous No.10739262]

>>10739214
Yes. This looks like the end of /med/, sadly.

[Anonymous No.10739270]

>>10739214
>>10739262
>one thread is shittier than usual
>"oh no this is the end"
stop crying about literally nothing
that'll teach you, next time you'll ignore the schizo

[Anonymous No.10739276]

>>10739270
What "schizo"?

[Anonymous No.10739277]

>>10739270
I never replied to him, anon...but since he started posting the quality went to utter shit even if we were shit already.

[Anonymous No.10739279]

which is best emergency mewdicine book?

[Anonymous No.10739280]

>>10739279
Tintinalli

[Anonymous No.10739284]

Someone please reply, I'm very bored of having a numb testicle. :(

[Anonymous No.10739306]

>>10738939
Thats my point famalam, those subjects were nowhere to be found.
He just assumed we assumed it was obvious we had to know them

[Anonymous No.10739312]

im gonna pass peds lads, sixth year here i come
still as retarded as in first year

fuck children
*dabs*

[Anonymous No.10739313]

>>10739284
How often are you farting?

[Anonymous No.10739314]

>>10739313
Often enough, and I am able to pass stools.

[Anonymous No.10739318]

>>10739284
dont fart, i repeat DO NOT FART if you have a numb testicle

you were advised

[Anonymous No.10739322]

>>10739318
I have farted many times, am I going to die?

[Anonymous No.10739324]

>>10739322
Go to the ER immediately.

[Anonymous No.10739328]

>>10739322
Everybody dies anon, thats a bad question

How, when, with whom, with how many testicles
Those are the real questions to be asked

[Anonymous No.10739330]

>>10739312
>fuck children
M-MODS!

[Anonymous No.10739332]

>>10739324
Guys, I want fucking serious answers. Should I go to my doctor so that she may fondle my nutsack?

>>10739328
Anon... :(

[Anonymous No.10739339]

>>10739332
Do you have a health related issue?
go se a doctor you moron

Jesus people its not rocket science

[Anonymous No.10739342]

>>10739312
Is peds difficult if you're awkward and terrible with kids? Asking for a friend

[Anonymous No.10739346]

>>10739339
I've literally just had surgery, I don't want them to have to do a nutsackectomy, and then have to recover from both at once. Fuck that.

[Anonymous No.10739358]

>>10739342
What does it matter if you are awkward with kids. Do what you gotta do, itll get better with practice.

b e e u r s e l f : ^ )

[Anonymous No.10739362]

>>10739358
Because I don't like them, they're noisy and sensitive and you can't interact with them like with adults
Also fuck the parents

[Anonymous No.10739365]

>>10739346
breh they dont just go and open your sack unless the nuts are about to go really bad

I would go and get it checked but its your balls and you can do whatever the fuck you want with them

[Anonymous No.10739370]

>>10739365
Will do, thank you for the confidence.

[Anonymous No.10739375]

>>10739362
fuck you and that bitch ass mindset you have faggot

You were once a child
They can be little shits but they have an excuse unlike most adults
They are fun as fuck
Mad practice talking to milfs
95% of parents of inpatient kids are chill in my experience

Fuck you complaining about something you havent even done mr fucking too good to have some noise around you

[Anonymous No.10739377]

look at me i just barely probably passed pediatrics and i feel like a lvl100 concilium boss ahah what a fucking disgrace i am

[Anonymous No.10739459]

>>10739375
You sound utterly buttblasted, stop being such a thin-skinned pussy. Some people don't like kids, deal with it you seething spaz
You're whiny and self-righteous like some middle-aged nurse lmao

[Anonymous No.10739481]

>>10739459
uuhuu parents r bad, kids are noisy
What the fuck would you know, thats just the memes

kys you premed

[Anonymous No.10739508]

>>10739481
>kids being noisy is just a meme
Holy shit imagine being this much of a tryhard pretending to have any clinical experience at all
>premed
How about you stop projecting bub?

[Anonymous No.10739528]

Hello fellow healthcare enthusiasts, I am a student nurse and it’s awfully unprofessional of me, but whenever a dr is in my presence it makes me so weak. would anyone be interested in sending lewds and talking dirty? As well as talk about work etc, I just don’t have the courage to confront anyone in person and feel it could ruin my future job prospects.

[Anonymous No.10739557]

>>10739528
what

[Anonymous No.10739559]

Kids are easy, just handle them like livestock.

[Anonymous No.10739563]

>>10739557
Ah yes I realise it’s twisted to post that here, quite a long shot.

[Anonymous No.10739571]

>tfw no qt nurse gf who gets weak in your presence

[Anonymous No.10739573]

>>10739528

If anyone is interested though pls contact me on discord ohhianon#4590

[Anonymous No.10739592]

>>10739571

[Anonymous No.10739639]

>>10735239
>>10736030
>>10737632
Don't worry guys, it went well. I was extremely nervous at start but she was very sweet about it. We talked for a few hours and then she needed to go to catch her train. As we were walking out of the cafe, she spontaneously kissed me and told me she wants to see me again. Then I waddled home confused and happy. I'll see her again next week, she went to see her relatives for midsummer. She keeps messaging me constantly which I assume is a good thing.

[Anonymous No.10739651]

>>10739563
ar u a cute twink

[Anonymous No.10739668]

>>10739639
Nice

[Anonymous No.10739673]

>>10739571

[Anonymous No.10739715]

>>10739639
Aww. Good for you man maybe it will happen soon for me too. :)

[Anonymous No.10739724]

>>10739715
I had it happen 4-5 times but I always fuck it up because im autistic as fuck.
Im really bad at small talk and reading textbooks all day long dont make it better.

[Anonymous No.10739782]

Any side effects to long-term usage of central nervous system stimulants such as dextroamphetamine (other than addiction) ?

[Anonymous No.10739840]

>>10739782
Personality changes, ed, hairloss, cachexia, depression, paranoid schitzophrenia, high risk of cardiovascular diseases, etc

[Anonymous No.10739871]

>>10739840
I was expecting there to be a possible risk of causing damage to my frontal lobe or the cns (or anything that could impair cognitive functions) if I become dependent on it.
I've only read little of 'nuerology:primer' so I'm basically going of faith

[Anonymous No.10740068]

You never fucking listened to me you thought you could lock me up in a cage and force me to take your meds but guess what? I never will. I am out now and you can't hurt me. I'm better off without you crazy fucking """"doctors""""

[Anonymous No.10740072]

>>10739840
>hairloss
why?
>>10739871
dopamine response blunting

[Anonymous No.10740164]

>>10739871
That and lot more lots of it depends on dosage and frequency too

[Anonymous No.10740167]

>>10740164
do you have studies to back up cardiovascular disease or frontal lobe damage? ive seen nothing on d-amph that suggests this

[Anonymous No.10740169]

>>10740068
It really shows bro

[Anonymous No.10740219]

Internal medicine bro here with a fucking BANGER for you lads

- patients gets dyspea and chest pain, is a 51 years old female that hasn't held a profession, has no prior medical history and does not take any meds
- goes to hospital, and to make a long story short that took 4 weeks to unveil, she has pericarditis and bilateral pleurisy
- they send her to some meme famous cardiology clinic, one of the most known in Romania (I'm not the romanian student obsessed with familly medicine), they do pericardiocentesis and extract 2.2L of sero-hemoragic fluid, the fluid has 4.1 g protein/L, LDH is 1000, mesothelial cells but you can't tell if they are inflamatory/malign
- after 3 days the famous cardiology clinic sends her back washing it's hands clean, with no clue for the etiology
- patient goes back at home clinic, they extract 800 ml of serous pleural fluid, with a positive Rivalta test, the labs is shit and can only tell there are lots of cells in it
- the home hospital pretends that the liver hemangioma could be a metastasis and sends the patient to my internal medicine/gastroenterology doctor
- my doctor decides to keep the patient until we find out the exact etiology


At presentation: clubbed fingers at the medical exam, tachycardia, and that's about it
Blood exam: CRP is 150, patient has NO FEVER, increased fibrinogen and ESR, low iron, sligh raise in gamma-GT. These findings are constant over the days

We did
- again a chest x-ray: bilateral pleuresy
- again an ecocardiography: minimal fluid, patient has sinus tachycardia but ECG is fine now
- again pleural fluid analysis, we extracted 2.5 L of pleural fluid because the lungs were squashed: 4.3 g/L protein, 650 LDH
- again a CT scan that revealed pleurisy, minimal pericardial fluid, and enlarged lymph nodes in the mediastinal space, right axillary group and right supraclavicular group, some lung lesions that might be nodules but fuck if we know and they are in shit spaces that can't lend themselves to biopsy

[Anonymous No.10740237]

>>10733668
Why aren't artificial tendons and ligaments a thing?

[Anonymous No.10740262]

>>10740219
continued

- we did a supra-clavicular lymph node exam, extracted under surgery no etiology could be discerned
- antinuclear antibodies are positive in 1/640 titre, nucleolar, anti dsDNA, SM antibodies are negative, we haven't found any other clinical signs of lupus, reumathoid factor is negative in the serum
- CA-125 was 722 during the cardiac tamponade, but abdominal CT found nothing in the pelvic area, so we presume it's because of the pleurisy and pericarditis that raised it, we checked for it now to confirm
- my doctor thought of lymphoma, but the lymph nodes were negative, serum LDH is normal
- every imaginable test for tuberculosis is negative

I'm sure I left other things, feel free to ask other questions.

Me and the doc can't find other diagnostic test to help us besides a pleural biopsy, that will require a small surgical procedure.
We are 95% sure it is cancer (lung cancer) but the oncology clinic will refuse to treat the patient if we don't find the actual source, they only do treatment they leave the diagnosis to us every time

[Anonymous No.10740282]

>>10740262
IM BRO!!!!

Question. Why don't you do a chest X-Ray on her right after extracting the pleural fluid?

[Anonymous No.10740370]

>>10740282
why?
the CT after we extracted the pleural fluid still showed moderate effusion, it was done a day after, still shows some lung nodules in both inferior lobes

also I did the toracocentesis, and maybe I was a little too chickenshit and could have went lower, but they were my first ones so whatever, patient really felt better after so I'm proud
>tfw the second time I first hit the fucking rib
>fucking lmaoed at me and in 2 seconds I pulled the needle and went a little higher and it was OK
I think the ketoprofen I gave her in the prior days helped her not be in more pain, I still get shivers when I think about the sensation of hitting the rib with the needle

[Anonymous No.10740382]

>>10740219
>>10740262
Trying to be fantasious, endometriosis?
How are her leuco?
How does she live? Is she some gipsy living in a dump? Family? Do they have any problems? What does she do all the day? Anything on her skin?

[Anonymous No.10740398]

>>10740382
>endometriosis
I heard of lung endometriosis but this can't explain 2.2 L of serohemoragic pericardial fluid

>Is she some gipsy living in a dump
literally yes

>Family
nothing of note, but to be fair I didn't insisted too much
>Do they have any problems
I ask all the patients but there weren't any

> What does she do all the day?
hanging around the house, I thought of mesothelioma, but she never worked in something industrial that could give exposure

>Anything on her skin?
about 5 weeks ago she developed a rash after some medicine administered, the hospital papers she received don't give us more details about what caused the allergy, it was a rash on the lower abdomen and thighs, went away after hidrocortizone and antihistamines and presumably no more meds that gave her allergy
we checked the skin for lupus signs and other things, there weren't any

[Anonymous No.10740402]

>>10740398
Stop spamming you autist

[Anonymous No.10740411]

>>10740382
also there is no ascites and no other abnormal findings in the pelvis-abdominal area
she had slight ascites during the cardiac tamponade and 1000 elevated AST and ALT but it passed away after the pericardiocentesis

[Anonymous No.10740412]

I let them inject me with gadolinium. Woke up today thinking about it. Obviously causes brain damage, then continues to disrupt brain activity thereafter.

It'll never be right again.

[Anonymous No.10740420]

>>10740398
>this can't explain 2.2 L of serohemoragic pericardial fluid
Yeah, probably not. It would also show timing with her menstruations.
If she lives like that i would maybe think of some weird ass infection. Does she have animals? Cattle that she grows or something? Rural lifestyle or city beggar? Did a complete bodycheck for any sort of insect bites?
Again, how were the leucos?
Can't try a BAL if there are lung lesions? Better than nothing.

[Anonymous No.10740430]

Anyone here studied medicine as a mature student? I'm not even 30 but my options to study it are do an access to medicine course (accepted by almost 0 unis) or do a medical related degree first. Hopefully I'll have the degree needed in like 3 years.

[Anonymous No.10740476]

>>10740420
didn't asked, about animals, do you have anything specific in mind? rural lifestyle, did not check for insects because I can't think of any exotic ones that can lead to this
>BAL
all the lesions are at the lung periphery and really inferior

[Anonymous No.10740517]

>>10740476
Was thinking Q fever and psittacosis. Not sure if they can produce that degree of pericardial fluid tho. Eosinophilia could match with that, did i ask the leucos?
BAL could still tell something but maybe not if the lab is shitty as you said.

[Anonymous No.10740522]

>>10740517
>leucos
7.k at admission, 10.4 k now, no eosinophilia

[Anonymous No.10740541]

>>10740476
Different anon, first year from America
A maybe dumb question, how common are non-tuberculous mycobacteria or endemic mycoses a là histoplasma or coccidiomycosis in Europe if at all?

[Anonymous No.10740559]

>>10740541
very very rare, infectious disease rotation had endocarditis, hepatitis E, meningitis, Q fever, pneumonia, zona zoster, ceulilits, etc
we read at microbiology of those diseases you mentioned but never encounter them in the clinics

[Anonymous No.10740562]

>>10740522
linfos? neutros? still no fever? i guess the famous clinic excluded any endocarditis? did they do any exam/treatment that could remove more options?
functional respiratory tests? pulmonary sarcoidosis?
every other lab test normal? pancreatic amilasis? kidneys?
>>10740541
from my limited exp they are limited to aids patients and maybe some deprivated migrants or social emarginates, only seen them in books, but take this with a kilogram of salt

[Anonymous No.10740592]

how do I get my hands on some amphetamines bruhs

[Anonymous No.10740597]

>>10740562
>linfos? neutros?
not particularly changed, still no fever
saw personally the heart echocardiography and there were no signs, LVEF was 65%

>functional respiratory tests?
there was one done 5 weeks ago, mixed respiratory failure, but I think the pleuresy and pericarditis had something with it
initially 5 weeks ago they discharged her home because they believed she had COPD or something but she returned to the hospital with cardiac tamponade
medical documents are really shady and sometimes miss a lot of data here, doctors avoid to write more detials because they don't know/don't want to admit they don't know, they don't care to properly explain the case in the papers the patient receives at discharge

>pulmonary sarcoidosis
my doc thought about this, but I snooped online articles and pleurisy appears in only 1% of sarcoidosis cases and some docs even use pleurisy presence to exclude sarcoidosis, the case reports I read showed transudate both in pericardial and pleurisy fluid
it would explain the lymph nodes and random lung lesions tho

[Anonymous No.10740622]

>>10740597
uh seems basically everything is out
rupture of toracic duct? but the liquid should have different features i think, never seen one tho, also wouldnt explain all the other findings
would probably go for transtoracic biopsy of those lung shits and be done with it, having a reliable pathology lab

[Anonymous No.10740696]

Bros, my diastolic blood pressure is 50 (the other one is 115) and I feel a pressure sensation at the far left side of my chest and I'm getting some cold sweats. I'm thinking this is it for me bros

[Anonymous No.10740715]

>>10740696
What’s your DFF reading?

[Anonymous No.10740719]

>>10740696
are your right pinky and ring fingers tingling? i hope they really aren't, sometime it's a faint feeling try to focus on them

[Anonymous No.10740735]

>>10740715
I dont know what that is
>>10740719
I dont feel such a sensation. Thinking of just going to the emergency.

[Anonymous No.10740752]

>>10740735
>I dont feel such a sensation.
even worse, try to run for the er but not sure if you will make it, ask your parents to accompany you if you live with them

[Anonymous No.10740858]

>>10740735
Honestly, I wouldn't personally bother to go to the ER. Everyone else will of course tell you to go, because we aren't you and don't know your situation or even what you look like, and don't want to be the one to get you killed. In actuality, you'll probably be fine. You'll go up to the ER, they'll look you over, give an EKG or whatever, and they'll say they'll keep you there to watch you. It'll subside, you'll leave, either you or your insurance will have a massive bill.

I used to have phasic occurrences of what you're describing, in both directions. Either I'd be ~185/80, or as low as 60/40. It was erratic though. If you test multiple times, do you get stable results? What are you measuring with?

If it keeps happening I'd suggest looking at your gut health, and glutathione system. Make some bone broth. Etc. Also get away from wireless devices. Turn your wifi off, cell phone, etc. Literally, works on the heart directly and indirectly. With rouleaux formation, altered heart rhythm, progressive cardiomyopathy, yes, microwave irradiation can and will kill you.

[Anonymous No.10740961]

>>10740430
How old would you be when starting med school?

[Anonymous No.10740965]

>>10739651
Aha no no I’m a cute F

[Anonymous No.10740993]

>>10740965
No you are not

[Anonymous No.10741008]

/med/, need your help. I have these small little scaly spots with dark centers on a few places on my body and they sometimes itch. I’m really worried /med/. They look like this close up, I scratched one off.

[Anonymous No.10741020]

>>10741008
How often are you farting?

[Anonymous No.10741029]

>>10741020
Goddamn it /med/ this is serious

[Anonymous No.10741050]

>>10740993
Yes I am :)

[Anonymous No.10741063]

>>10740961
31/32

[Anonymous No.10741078]

>>10741008
not a dactor, i'd say just a wart, breaux

[Anonymous No.10741088]

>>10741078
Where did all the medical students go??

[Anonymous No.10741226]

>>10736965
Concubines for young attendings

[Anonymous No.10741232]

>>10739782
Fuck anon, I'm on vyvanse
>>10739840 does not look promising

[Anonymous No.10741736]

>>10741050
TFW NO EVIDENCE BASED GF ;(

[Anonymous No.10741825]

>>10741050
>tfw no gf that gets weak in your presence

[Anonymous No.10741866]

>>10739249
Appendix is on the right and you have pain in your left one, anon.
>>10739270
I know the guy, he's been shitting on /med/ threads since they began.
>>10739312
I want to have a kid after pediatry rotation :<
>>10739639
HE DID IT BOIS
>>10740219
>>10740262
Seems like lung cancer IMbro. Oncofucks want a confirmation tho. Can't the nodules be biopsied with VATS? Is the formation in the liver really a hemangioma? If is it can't be this aggressive with pericarditis and whatnot. Her age doesn't imply cancer tho. Very interesting case.
>>10741008
Derm has never been my strong side.
>>10741050
Interesting.

[Anonymous No.10741878]

>>10741050
>tfw no gf

[Anonymous No.10741900]

>>10741866
>I want to have a kid after pediatrics rotation
I had childcare classes and went on NICU. I never wanted a baby so badly in my life.

[Anonymous No.10741957]

Redpill me on being an ultrasound tech. Do male techs still have to do all the gross shit like breasts and transvaginal stuff? Seems like the kind of that stuff that would ruin a man.

[Anonymous No.10742038]

What does /med/ think of zoomer horns?

[Anonymous No.10742058]

>>10742038
Osteophytes i guess

[Anonymous No.10742063]

>>10742038
Exostosis tier zoomer.

[Anonymous No.10742092]

ABANDON SHIP
>>10742087
>>10742087
>>10742087
>>10742087