/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.10710947]

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[Anonymous No.10710953]

Does this idiot dotard literally think the moon and mars are attached? Jesus how embarrassing

[Anonymous No.10710956]

>>10710953
Clown world is real

[Anonymous No.10710960]

>>10710953
better question is, are you such an utter moron that THAT is your interpretation of what he said?

[Anonymous No.10711081]

>>10710960
the 'NASA should NOT be talking about going to the Moon' bit reduces the tweet to incoherent idiocy even if one interprets the second half as 'moon as way station to mars'

[Anonymous No.10711094]

I wish the media hated me so much I could troll them this easily.

[Anonymous No.10711096]

>>10710947
Wasn't he's the one who ordered Nasa to back to the moon like 2 years ago? what the fuck wrong with him?

[Anonymous No.10711101]

>>10710947
I’m not even American but I love this guy. How does one man get so based? Before 2015 I just thought he was just your average rich asshole but now I see how wrong I was. He is not only a genius, but shares my sense of humor.

I do wonder, could Einstein could have predicted that with this wording, the media would have made an article interpreting it as the moon being part of mars? I doubt it, so we proved Trump > Einstein.

[s*ge No.10711103]

>hey check this twitter screencap
Not science or math. "This post is off-topic"

[Anonymous No.10711111]

>>10711103
are you retarded? it's clearly about science (ie NASA mission to marsian lunar surface)

[Anonymous No.10711116]

He’s right you know.

[Anonymous No.10711119]

>>10711111
>based ESL get poster
martian
and I agree with you, it's on topic

[Anonymous No.10711121]

>>10711116
He's the one who told Nasa to go back to moon in the first place though.

[s*ge No.10711125]

>>10711111
Absolute waste of quints. Are you retarded Talking about NASA's public relations clearly isn't science.

[Anonymous No.10711127]

>>10711081
Going to the Moon is a means to an end, it should not become the end itself.

[Anonymous No.10711132]

>>10711127
yes, but that doesn't mean the means shouldn't be talked about, especially if it hasn't been done in nearly 5 decades

[Anonymous No.10711137]

>>10711101
>Trump > Einstein.
Christ you Trump shills are embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.10711145]

>>10710960
So what exactly is the correct interpretation? Its obviously confusingly worded.
I assume he means that Mars and the Moon are part of the same program, as >>10711127 says, a means to an end.

[Anonymous No.10711147]

>>10711111
oh wait, this post is better or worse than I intially thought
>marsian lunar surface
LUNAR
is this an admission that the poster thinks that trump thinks the Moon orbits Mars while trying to dispute that very position?
is this an admission that the poster thinks trump is talking about a mission, not to Mars, but to Phobos?

[Anonymous No.10711149]

>>10710953
Sigh.
We had that yesterday.
>"much bigger things"
>"of wich [element of set mentioned above] the Moon is a part"

Srsly, he spouted so much crap during his career, why focus on this?

[Anonymous No.10711154]

>all these muh 78D chess responses
You're pathetic.

[Anonymous No.10711315]

>>10711145
"... NOT be talking about going to to the Moon as an ultimate goal ..."
"... Mars (for which going to the Moon is part of the process), ..."

But mostly this>>10711149
>Srsly, he spouted so much crap during his career, why focus on this?
...

[Anonymous No.10711320]

>>10711149
>Srsly, he spouted so much crap during his career, why focus on this?

It's the 'tism. Also known as Trump derangement syndrome.

[Anonymous No.10711345]

>>10710947
I don't get the problem?

He basically said we should focus more on Mars than the Moon and Mars. Why are English majors so autistic?

[Anonymous No.10711355]

>>10711345
The problem is he does not realize that the moon is a necessary stepping stone for Mars and that NASA has already mentioned this.

[Anonymous No.10711360]

>>10711345
I think he's trying to cover all his bases so that no matter which objective the next administration decides to destroy all of NASA's progress with he'll get to claim credit
Unless of course the next admin goes for the manned Venus flyby

[Anonymous No.10711367]

BLUMPF

>>10711355
He's literally saying the moon is a stepping stone to go to Mars, retard.

[Anonymous No.10711371]

>>10711367
>He's literally saying the moon is a stepping stone to go to Mars, retard.
So what exactly did NASA do wrong, retard? What exactly is the POTUS complaining about, retard?

[Anonymous No.10711377]

>The President complaining about things only The President can change

[Anonymous No.10711381]

>>10711377
Idiot, el presidente gets to talk the big talk at NASA but it's Congress who holds the purse strings

[Anonymous No.10711385]

>>10711381
>congress is in charge of NASA
lol

[Anonymous No.10711392]

>>10711385
They are
Have you read the NASA funding request? Congress is ridiculous

[Anonymous No.10711396]

He's the one who literally told NASA to get a person on the moon in 4 years purely for dick-waving purposes.

[Anonymous No.10711404]

>>10711392
Congress grants budgets, but the directives for NASA originates with its administration. Guess who appointed its administrator?

[Anonymous No.10711523]

>>10711404
let me guess: the people

[Anonymous No.10711534]

>>10710947
>there are people ITT defending this crap

Serious question: are you mentally ill?

[Anonymous No.10711535]

Devil's advocate: He's saying we should use the moon as a jumping point to mars

[Anonymous No.10711549]

>>10711371
>So what exactly did NASA do wrong, retard?

Doing nothing to achieve the goal of a Mars landing. NASA ought to be working on both Moon AND Mars.

[Anonymous No.10711566]

>>10711535
>not taking his words very literally only so you can say orange man dum

[Anonymous No.10711573]

>>10711535
Then why complain about going to the Moon? We're going to need Lunar-based stations and infrastructures first if we want to use it as a jumping point to Mars.

[Anonymous No.10711578]

>>10711549
Not with their current budget.

[Anonymous No.10711582]

>>10711573
Maybe he's talking about us focusing too much on it? I won't lie, the statement is poorly worded but I can see some sanity in it.

[Anonymous No.10711588]

>>10711573
And he's agreeing with that, just saying the moon itself isn't a goal anymore.

[Anonymous No.10711592]

>>10711578
Yes, with their current budget. SpaceX magically manages to work on both lunar and Mars vehicle with their much smaller budget. NASA and politicians controlling it deserve all the criticism they get, and more. Now Trump may not be a spaceflight nerd enough to know why NASA is fucked, but he recognizes a steaming pile of shit when he sees one.

[Anonymous No.10711597]

>>10711578
$21 fucking billions per year is enough. Corruption, not lack of funding, is the main issue with NASA.

[Anonymous No.10712885]

>>10710947
now i understand why people say trump is a damned idiot buffoon.
every talk i have seen recently from NASAs administrator he speaks intensely and on detail about the long range goals of going to Mars and beyond.

The moon missions are an important step along the way and key to developing and perfecting technologies and systems design of all kinds

god i wish these blowhard politicians, celebrities and reality tv personalities would stfu

[Anonymous No.10712918]

>>10710960
>better question is, are you such an utter moron that THAT is your interpretation of what he said?

When Democrats talk, how much effort do you spend on understanding, before jumping to the stupidest possible interpretation?

[Anonymous No.10712982]

>>10712918
Usually they spell it out with images and such so that it's blindingly clear that everybody involved on both sides is a moron

[Anonymous No.10713037]

>>10710947
The better automation gets, the less point there is to the expense and risk of putting people in space for the purpose of science--until technology is so advanced that self-sustaining industry is feasible there. And that's a looooong way off. As for the geopolitics, of course the Alzheimer's Clown In Chief probably doesn't remember how much prestige the unprecedented Viking and Voyager images won for the US after Apollo. Never mind the self-contradiction of being for and against re-development of the means for manned flight to the moon as a step toward making it happen on Mars. He's such a goner upstairs that I doubt he'll even be up to campaigning for a 2nd term, though one can only hope that he does anyway, since so grotesque a spectacle may put even some of the dumbest voters off the whole clown thing--like people in cults who decide they've had enough when the leader says it's snippy time for their testes, and shows them the tickets to Mexico City.

[Anonymous No.10713211]

It didnt seem to me that he was directing this tweet at nasa at all. I read it as he was telling the general population that NASA shouldnt be focusing on only the moon, but the moon as a way to mars. As in, “hey all you people that think we should just be satisfied with NASA getting us back to the moon, this is why youre wrong.”

[Anonymous No.10713216]

>>10713211
imagine being the one who dissuaded NASA from going to mars and rather focus on the moon and then saying this.
you are a retard aren't you. our president really needs to take an english class.

[Anonymous No.10713223]

>>10713216
Despite if you agree with him or not, the phrasing of the tweet correctly says that the moon is part of the bigger things they want to do, which includes mars. To dispute this would be retarded

[Anonymous No.10713328]

>>10710960
I love how on this board there is someone who is perfectly fine with having a president so fucking retarded, that the average twitter user needs to INTERPRET the fucking president's message about the MOON being a PART OF MARS.

No, you absolute moron, no person beyond the 5th grade actually believes that Trump L-I-T-E-R-A-L-L-Y thinks the Moon and Mars are part of one another. It's the absolute absurdity that the president of the United States of America (an office which includes the likes of FDR, Thomas Jefferson, Richard Nixon, JFK, etc.---that is to say, intelligent persons) would even write something so incredibly dumb that it COULD be insinuated that they are part of one another.

This one tweet will go down in history as the least intellectual statement that any president has or will ever say. I will not be surprised when it ends up in history books as an example of the failure of his presidency.

[Anonymous No.10713380]

For all you /sci/ faggots with you self-vaunted supreme intelligence it baffles me that you don't just look at what this guy does and just say 'fuck it... might as well ignore it until 2020'. I mean why care so much? I'd bet none of you have suffered a single significant bit (which would at least give you a reason to bitch) at anything he has done or said.

[Anonymous No.10713417]

>>10713380
>apathetic people are apathetic
wow, who would have thought!
you made the world this way, now FUCKING SUFFER.

[Anonymous No.10713624]

>>10710960
There is no interpretation that is correct for what he said which is also reasonable. Ergo any of them become valid.

[Anonymous No.10713639]

>>10713380
> I'd bet none of you have suffered a single significant bit
Youd bet that because you are functionally retarded with critical thinking skills so low that you could be considered to be a literal beast.

Just for amusement lets look at the check list of dumb shit he has done that directly affects every American and many other people globally, keep in mind this is off the top of my head and therefore in no way exhaustive.

-Nuclear Escalation with North Korea

-Trade Wars with multiple major power simultaneously resulting in tariffs on low level goods like steel and aluminium

-Complete destruction of US soft power

-Slashing of government agencies that deal with education, healthcare, and other social programs

-Large erosion of international respect and confidence in the office of the potus, the state, and the electorate

So unless you somehow are posting on this site while also consuming no products containing steel, are invincible to mortal damage, dont like food or medicine, and arent interested in the ongoing globalization of the planet you are affected by his presidency.

[Anonymous No.10713644]

Keep in mind there where people in this board stupid enough to vote for this guy and stupid enough to keep supporting him despite accomplishing nothing except giving more money to Israel.

Really makes you think.

[Anonymous No.10713798]

>>10710947
sure he phrased it poorly but deliberately interpreting his message to make yourself angry seems pretty stupid too.

[Anonymous No.10713812]

>>10711096
He always really wanted to go to Mars because he wants to believe that'll make him JFK or some shit. He's chasing a legacy buy trying to buy it. Mars is too hard to do within his time as pres, but I think he's planning to start funding so he can later try and take credit should it happen.

[Anonymous No.10713815]

>>10713639
>are invincible to mortal damage, dont like food or medicine, and arent interested in the ongoing globalization of the planet
Cool...
>while also consuming no products containing steel
mfw

[Anonymous No.10713821]

>>10713644
>accomplishing nothing except giving more money to Israel.
nope

[Anonymous No.10713832]

>>10713821
He's literally increased israel annual "aid" money to 3.8 billion.

[Anonymous No.10713833]

baka, imagine being dumb enough to waste energy landing on the moon on your way to mars

[Anonymous No.10713839]

>>10713832
It's 3.3 billion though which is still increase from previous year by 2 million and he also signed MOU to give israel another 38 billion through 2028.

[Anonymous No.10713976]

>>10710947

[Anonymous No.10714073]

>>10713832
Why do incels always cry about money to Israel and not the other 93% of the foreign aid budget

[Anonymous No.10714079]

>>10710947

IS he wrong?


Hes basically saying, Hey NASA you're getting alot of money! Do something. NASA has become lazy, the standard is stagnant.

[Anonymous No.10714105]

>>10711081
It's pretty clear he meant that just going back to the moon is a weak ambition. You're deliberately pretending to be autistic so that you can try to stick it to the bad orange man.

[Anonymous No.10714113]

>>10714105
I think it's pretty clear that he just wants everyone to stop TALKING about going to the moon. Even about the logistics. He's saying we should just fire off thirty or so rockets loaded with astronauts and aimed roughly at you-know-where. The best part about this is that the ones that miss will go on to Mars to form the Mars landing mission decades ahead of schedule

[Anonymous No.10714137]

It was only a few months ago guys. Trump is clearly senile. But whatever. NASA got their budget for space shit, so stuff is happening either way.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/26/mike-pence-nasa-2024-moon-1237810

[Anonymous No.10714147]

>>10714113
It's called fucking strategy and you're finally starting to get it anon.

[Anonymous No.10714155]

>>10714147
I'm glad there's another patrician on this board that understands that space travel is more than math and physics. Sometimes it's about throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks

[Anonymous No.10714452]

>>10713832
Based. Israel is our greatest ally.

[Anonymous No.10714461]

>>10710947
>defense
That is literally not NASA's job

[Anonymous No.10715119]

>>10714073
Because Israel is demonstrably a terrorist state whos actions and ideals are antithetical to the US. The only reason you support them is because of a shared collective guilt and you view them as the lesser of two evils.

[Anonymous No.10715126]

>>10710947
>For all the money we’re spending, we shouldn’t be talking about going to the moon
>We should be focused on the much bigger things we’re doing, including mars (and the moon)
Why even start the tweet by saying we shouldn’t talk about the moon then?

[Anonymous No.10715133]

>>10715126
Is it that hard to figure out that he meant talking about the Moon as the major achievement instead of Mars? In other words, instead of framing returning to the moon as the major end goal, it should be seen as part of a larger plan to get to Mars.

[Anonymous No.10715143]

>>10710947
The reason Trump is shitting on NASA's "le lets return to the moon" is because its a tiny brained vision. NASA lacks vision. That's the problem. Imagine if NASA said, fuck it, we'll go to both Mars/Moon by 2024. We'll fund $1B a year to SpaceX until 2024 to get Mars cargo missions(2 rides). SpaceX will have had 80-100% of their development budget paid off and would instead focus primarily on development as fast as possible. Lets say SLS gets man on moon by 2024 but at the same year, SpaceX gets to Mars landing. NASA wins both ways, Trump is willing to fund NASA for such a project. But NASA doesn't have the balls to push limits, they don't have the balls to boundaries. If SpaceX succeeds, it would mean SLS would be cancelled. That's the huge problem for NASA. $1 billion per year for SpaceX is NOTHING compared to what NASA has spent so far for SLS and what NASA will spend till 2024 every year. By 2024, they would have spent ~$50 billion on SLS.

[Anonymous No.10715146]

>>10715133
Well no, which is why I figured it out. But if he’d worded it like you did he’d have gotten support or indifference rather than another wave of lolsodum. I know he doesn’t care what people think, but the President shouldn’t look uneducated if he can help it.

[Anonymous No.10715156]

>>10715143
To be fair, after decades of being restricted by Congress and constantly having ambitious projects canceled by child-minded presidents, it makes sense that NASA isn't willing to push the limits and only do what gives a steady budget and guaranteed relevancy.

[Anonymous No.10715165]

>>10715146
He worded it bit weird, but its mainly the press creating the fake news scenario. If you read his whole tweet, anyone with a brain would realize he's talking about wanting NASA to have a bigger vision than simply the Moon. He specifically wants Mars to be JUST as high priority. I get it that NASA's own internal projection shows that no vehicle is capable of it today until 2030s-2040s, but they should really take a look at what commercial space industry is doing instead of plugging their ears in and saying "LALALALA Starship is not real, New Glenn is not real."

In someways, its understandable given that this is purely a political play to keep Boeing and SLS alive, but on the other hand, this is corruption, stagnation and everything wrong with current NASA that people see today. This is what Trump sees but doesn't outright say it, but he's implying it.

[Anonymous No.10715168]

>>10711355
It's not. They just grab at any chance of funding they can get like the greedy faggots they are.

[Anonymous No.10715170]

>>10711355
The moon being necessary stepping stone is a meme pushed by the SLS team. There's no engineering reason why moon is needed for Mars.

[Anonymous No.10715172]

>>10710947
The Earth is flat. Stars, planets, moon, are structures built on the surface of the dome. It's possible the dome is transparent and they're behind it, in the fluid.

[Anonymous No.10715182]

>>10715172
You have schizophrenia

[Anonymous No.10715192]

>>10711149
>Srsly, he spouted so much crap during his career, why focus on this?

So they can troll on /sci/

[Anonymous No.10715197]

>>10715146
>>10715165
Obviously the press is smart enough to figure out what he meant to say. Why, then, are they acting like it's somehow unclear? It was extremely easy for us to figure out what he was saying.

[Anonymous No.10715202]

>>10715182
Okay.

[Anonymous No.10715204]

>>10715202
And for the record of what some anon on 4chan was, I don't actually "believe" what I said. I don't know what this place really is. That solipsistic-like branch is one of many, and I find it very interesting.

[Anonymous No.10715216]

>>10710953
Establishing a moon base is an early step in NASA's plan to colonize Mars.
Going to the Moon isnt news because we've been there but going to the moon as a step towards Mars is news.
Character limits are a problem

[Anonymous No.10715220]

>>10711149
Ideology > your own personal integrity. But I guess liberals dont have a personal integrity, so they attack a person for whatever they say even if its completely wrong.

[Anonymous No.10715353]

>>10711345
>why do words matter the post

Its almost as if language is an organic set of conventions that everyone actively agrees with so that we can communicate effectively. Those conventions ensure that when I say horse you think horse and the thought is accurately conveyed.

[Anonymous No.10715490]

>>10713328
>no one believes he meant the dumb thing
>but it's dumb because it looked like it meant the dumb thing to us
>not that we interpreted it that way or anything
The absolute state of the left, folks.

[Anonymous No.10715830]

DURUMPFFF

[Anonymous No.10715831]

>>10715216
>Character limits are a problem
Glumpfy can release a statement then

[Anonymous No.10715838]

I don't get why in all this confusion he doesn't just try to secure a good, steady, long term budget for NASA to work with for the Mars projects. Going to Mars isn't something you can do in a single term, or two. Doesn't matter how much money you throw at it, that shit takes a long time and we still got a long way to go.

[Anonymous No.10715844]

>>10710953
this is your brain on Trump derangement syndrome

[Anonymous No.10715951]

>>10714105
You are right. That said, the Tweet was very poorly worded. Though why that should surprise anybody at this point is beyond me.

[Anonymous No.10715959]

>>10714461
NASA is a department under the President. It's mission can be redefined to include more military/defense activities if he were to choose to do so. Obviously many NASA programs in aerospace technology have military applications and connections. Flying astronauts around is by no means all of what NASA does.

[Anonymous No.10715961]

>>10715838
>a good, steady, long term budget

Federal budgeting does not work that way.

[Anonymous No.10716036]

>>10715838
>SpaceX promises Mars in 5 years for under 5 billion dollar
>SLS wants $100 billion for mars
SPACEX IS WRONG. YOU NEED $1 Trillion FOR MARS. REEEEE

[Anonymous No.10716049]

I watched a review the other day where a guy said the mechanics of a scene are wrong because it takes light 2 years to cross the solar system.

Some people simply don't have a clue about these things. They never learned about it. Like how our boomer dads are so obfuscated by computers.

[Anonymous No.10716050]

>>10710960
Reminds me of when Obama said "you didn't build that" and the right flipped their shit

[Anonymous No.10716051]

>>10710960
>Write something incoherent and autistic
>Blame the reader
Grade inflation needs to end

[Anonymous No.10716185]

>>10715353
>

[Anonymous No.10717151]

>>10711094
He is sincerely this retarded and you are in denial

[Anonymous No.10717394]

>>10715353
Cringe and non-gramatology pilled.
Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.10717396]

>>10715353
>Its almost as if

[Anonymous No.10717411]

>>10715490
>no one believes he meant the dumb thing
I genuinely dont know if he believes it because he has a massive history of being completely retarded.

[Anonymous No.10717840]

>>10717411
he's a fucking billionaire
no, he does not believe the moon is part of mars
if you think he does, then it is you that is the paint drinking retard

[Anonymous No.10719722]

>>10717411
>because he has a massive history of being completely retarded.
>if i repeat the same lie enough times it becomes true

[Anonymous No.10721591]

>>10719722
Trump Derangement Syndrome
dreadful mental illness, common among leftists

[Anonymous No.10722028]

>>10710947
What a retard